Post by: Xbox-Scene on January 29, 2008, 06:26:00 PM
| A new firmware enhancement for the VAD6038 Xbox360 DVD-ROM drive and a new Xbox Backup Creator(info) to support it.. XBC 2.8 Build 275: -Added support for BenQ VAD6038 0800 firmware (Note: This has had limited testing, be cautious) The 0800 Release is a firmware replacment for the BenQ VAD6038 drive to allow you to backup your own games. It is, as always, not for use on xbox live. Official Site: n/a (XBC by Redline99, Benq 0800 by commodore4eva) Download: XBC 2.8 Build 275 Download: Benq 0800 n/a (May be illegal under EULA/DMCA) News-Source: xbins.org |
Post by: Slaytanic on January 29, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
Post by: sofa king dumb on January 29, 2008, 07:53:00 PM
can this extract stealth files from an original or just the iso?
Post by: just4747 on January 29, 2008, 08:29:00 PM
Post by: bill16504 on January 29, 2008, 08:56:00 PM
QUOTE(just4747 @ Jan 30 2008, 05:05 AM) 
wait so let me get this straight...you can flash your regular 360 BenQ drive with this FW and it is then able to backup games? I don't get it, how does this work? Sorry if I am wrong, I have experience flashing drives to play backups but never learned anything about drives that back games up. Thanks.
This makes the drive detectable in Windows. That way you can use it with XBC or Schtrom. This has been available since the launch of the very first Xtreme firmware, except only for the Samsung. So now you can use either the Samsung or Benq drive. I picked up a Samsung off eBay back when it was announced that the Kreon drives were making bad backups, flashed it with the 0800 firmware, and leave it attached to my pc.
By Samsung, I mean the Samsung 360 drive... not the Samsung pc drive. Oh yea... it was also cheaper to pick up a 360 drive than the Samsung pc drive.
Post by: dokworm on January 29, 2008, 08:58:00 PM
QUOTE(just4747 @ Jan 30 2008, 05:05 AM)
wait so let me get this straight...you can flash your regular 360 BenQ drive with this FW and it is then able to backup games? I don't get it, how does this work? Sorry if I am wrong, I have experience flashing drives to play backups but never learned anything about drives that back games up. Thanks.
My understanding is that you can flash your 360 DVD drive with this firmware, then hook the DVD drive up to your computer and use xbox backup creator (or software of choice) to backup your games to an iso file on your PC.
You would then need to burn the resultant iso onto a Dual Layer DVD and put that in your 360 to play the backup and keep your original disc away from harm.
There is also a standard PC DVD-ROM drive from samsung that you can apply a (different) bios flash to and do the same thing.
The only problem is I believe that if using your 360 DVD drive, you have to flash it back again or your 360 won't work. so the best option would be to have two DVD drives, one permanently in your PC to do your backups (either a spare 360 drive or a samsung or whatever), and the other stays in your 360.
I could be wrong though...
Post by: Redline99 on January 29, 2008, 09:01:00 PM
The benq 0800 fw is only for use in the pc. It was safer to treat this as a seretare version from the iXtreme.
I believe the drive key will not matter for this utility.
The Benq0800 firmware will make full iso's equivalent to the TS-H943A 5.3 firmware, PFI, DMI, SS and video.
Post by: NeonPinHead on January 29, 2008, 11:02:00 PM
what do i have to to do back this game up?
Post by: just4747 on January 30, 2008, 12:09:00 AM
QUOTE(NeonPinHead @ Jan 30 2008, 01:38 AM)
So I flashed the benq with the 0800 firmware, it's detected in windows, i insert my forza2 game, i open XBC, and on the read tab it says this is not a true 1 for 1 copy of the image.
what do i have to to do back this game up?
curious too...
Post by: Redline99 on January 30, 2008, 12:35:00 AM
Post by: NeonPinHead on January 30, 2008, 01:10:00 AM
it would be just so easy if you could read the disc as a complete backup.
Post by: NeonPinHead on January 30, 2008, 01:36:00 AM
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on January 30, 2008, 02:44:00 AM
Post by: NeonPinHead on January 30, 2008, 03:26:00 AM
Post by: Arijohn on January 30, 2008, 05:34:00 AM
How or where do i get a power converter for the Drive?
Post by: cypher21 on January 30, 2008, 06:12:00 AM
QUOTE(Arijohn @ Jan 30 2008, 01:10 PM) 
I want to keep My BEnq connected to my cpu.
How or where do i get a power converter for the Drive?
There are some methods, easiest is a connectivity kit, other one is make your own molex>xboxdrive connector (schema's can be found when you search the forums)
Post by: bill16504 on January 30, 2008, 07:39:00 AM
QUOTE(DeMoN_DARREN @ Jan 30 2008, 11:20 AM)
Its nice n all, but i would stick with the Kreon drives. Far less fiddle and a much better result
Much better result? The Kreon/Samsung combo was proven to make bad backups every so often.
Post by: delahmed on January 30, 2008, 08:20:00 AM
QUOTE(bill16504 @ Jan 30 2008, 03:15 PM)
Much better result? The Kreon/Samsung combo was proven to make bad backups every so often.
yeah true, but the latest 1.4 iXtreme f/w fixes that issue, so even a bad legit backup via kreon would report as good during CR. That was my take on it. Still this is good for ppl that do not want to buy a kreon drive and already have a benq and dont mind opening up thier 360 everytime they want to backup a game... ill stick to Kreon in my PC for legit backups.
just my 2 cents.
This post has been edited by delahmed: Jan 30 2008, 04:20 PM
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on January 30, 2008, 08:35:00 AM
QUOTE(delahmed @ Jan 30 2008, 05:56 PM)
yeah true, but the latest 1.4 iXtreme f/w fixes that issue, so even a bad legit backup via kreon would report as good during CR. That was my take on it. Still this is good for ppl that do not want to buy a kreon drive and already have a benq and dont mind opening up thier 360 everytime they want to backup a game... ill stick to Kreon in my PC for legit backups.
just my 2 cents.
Bang on - Whenever i want to back up a new game, I just pop it in the PC and rip away. This does save you £15 on the Kreon drive, but i would happily pay twice that so i didn't have to unscrew my PC and Xbox everytime (unless you want to leave them both gutted)
Still, top job
Post by: Iriez on January 30, 2008, 09:09:00 AM
QUOTE(DeMoN_DARREN @ Jan 30 2008, 05:20 AM)
Its nice n all, but i would stick with the Kreon drives. Far less fiddle and a much better result
Incorrect. The responses are stored/emulated with kreon drives, and may prove to be incompatible with future games for usage on xbox live.
Using a real 360 drive is the only current way to get *true* reponses.
Post by: PaddyPat on January 30, 2008, 10:27:00 AM
Post by: shaggyarotten on January 30, 2008, 07:28:00 PM
Post by: Toddler on January 30, 2008, 10:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jan 30 2008, 10:45 AM)
Incorrect. The responses are stored/emulated with kreon drives, and may prove to be incompatible with future games for usage on xbox live.
Using a real 360 drive is the only current way to get *true* reponses.
For what it's worth, it's been stated that there's no such thing as "bad Kreon" at all, never was (see here). Who knows what might come in the future, but so far, Kreon has been reliable.
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on January 31, 2008, 03:23:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Jan 31 2008, 07:47 AM)
For what it's worth, it's been stated that there's no such thing as "bad Kreon" at all, never was (see here). Who knows what might come in the future, but so far, Kreon has been reliable.
Niiiiiiice link!
Post by: caster420 on January 31, 2008, 05:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Jan 31 2008, 12:47 AM)
For what it's worth, it's been stated that there's no such thing as "bad Kreon" at all, never was (see here). Who knows what might come in the future, but so far, Kreon has been reliable.
Yes, but the response was to the 'much better result' comment. That is not true and is misleading. The kreon responses are emulated, which may or may not prove to be an issue in the future.
Caster.
Post by: uk_dan2k on January 31, 2008, 01:53:00 PM
Just wondering for the sake of having to flash back and forth 0800, non 0800, once all works fine u can then flash back to the more secure benq firmware and play away.
Post by: Redline99 on January 31, 2008, 02:42:00 PM
Post by: uk_dan2k on January 31, 2008, 02:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Redline99 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:18 PM)
The 0800 firmware is not meant to be used in the console.
just checking, would save a pain in the arse
Post by: shaggyarotten on January 31, 2008, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 31, 2008, 08:24:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Jan 31 2008, 12:47 AM)
For what it's worth, it's been stated that there's no such thing as "bad Kreon" at all, never was (see here). Who knows what might come in the future, but so far, Kreon has been reliable.
You just stated you dont know what will be coming in the future. Seeing that my comment was in relation to future games, I dont understand the point of your reply. I did not just state that kreon is 'bad'. I stated that its responses are stored. If they choose to alter the challenge, they can do so in a way that will still get the same stored response but a legitimate drive will respond another way.
Post by: Toddler on January 31, 2008, 11:21:00 PM
Post by: PaddyPat on February 01, 2008, 10:12:00 AM
I have a few questions about XBC. When I make an Xbox original backup it creates a layer break file with the layer break set at 1913777, I think. It's the same layer break every time for Xbox original backups. Should it be different than an Xbox 360 game, which is always 1913760? I'm not at home right now, so I don't know the exact value of the Xbox original layer break, but I know it's different than Xbox 360 layer breaks.
Another comment I have is about ASPI vs. SPTI. Using the Benq drive I get an error when I use ASPI but it works perfect under SPTI. I don't know if this is because of my system or the drive or what. Just thought I'd mention it.
Thank you in advance.
Post by: shaggyarotten on February 01, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: cofree on February 01, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
I think its a great build and im glad they did it.
I flashed a benq with the 0800 and did a backup.all this was done through a blaster v1
to cool.
Keep up the good work guys
This post has been edited by cofree: Feb 2 2008, 04:45 AM
Post by: deilzfcjk on February 02, 2008, 01:55:00 AM
Or is that always going to be the case. You just have to use Mulleter to patch the iso. I mean it's not hard to do, but that would be nice if the stealth was automatic. Like I said above, I used the latest XBC as of Dec 30, 2007 and it don't make stealth copies. I know I knw I could just try it. So if anyone know if it makes stealth right off the bat post your results.
Post by: fitsman on February 02, 2008, 05:56:00 AM
QUOTE(deilzfcjk @ Feb 2 2008, 04:31 AM)
how long does it take you guys to make these builds? Btw, will this version make the copies true stealth. I know the lastest one(v2.7 build 0265) didn't do it correctly for ixtreme 1.4. I had to patch it using the latest Mulleter.
Or is that always going to be the case. You just have to use Mulleter to patch the iso. I mean it's not hard to do, but that would be nice if the stealth was automatic. Like I said above, I used the latest XBC as of Dec 30, 2007 and it don't make stealth copies. I know I knw I could just try it. So if anyone know if it makes stealth right off the bat post your results.
Or is that always going to be the case. You just have to use Mulleter to patch the iso. I mean it's not hard to do, but that would be nice if the stealth was automatic. Like I said above, I used the latest XBC as of Dec 30, 2007 and it don't make stealth copies. I know I knw I could just try it. So if anyone know if it makes stealth right off the bat post your results.
Here you may very wrong. The xbox backup creator(All the versions even the latest 2.8) it make fully stealthed images of original xbox1 & xbox360 games. I try it to many games. I quess you may do something wrong and your images isn't stealthed for ixtreme 1.4 because me to the ixtreme 1.4 firmware i have and the games i ripred with xbox backup creator works perfectly.
Post by: PaddyPat on February 02, 2008, 08:28:00 AM
Post by: NeonPinHead on February 04, 2008, 06:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Arijohn @ Jan 30 2008, 05:10 AM)
I want to keep My BEnq connected to my cpu.
How or where do i get a power converter for the Drive?
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-360-xck
Post by: NeonPinHead on February 04, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
Download the V-Raid 5.20a Driver Here.
This post has been edited by NeonPinHead: Feb 5 2008, 03:23 AM
Post by: fitsman on February 05, 2008, 06:17:00 AM
If there is where i can find it?
A lot of thaks.
Post by: XtremeModz on February 05, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: shaggyarotten on February 05, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
Post by: NeonPinHead on February 05, 2008, 02:17:00 PM
QUOTE(XtremeModz @ Feb 5 2008, 09:39 AM)
Hey PaddyPat, do you mind telling us what settings you used to get this working okay?
like me he probably didn't even touch the settings. if all your drivers and everything else is setup properly this is the run down of operating this program to create a successful backup...
insert game into 360 drive
open program
select 360 drive from drop down
hit "read" ("complete backup" should all ready be selected)
make sure it's stealth using "stealth check" in "image tools"
write the image to a dvd+r dual layer using a dual layer dvd writer
it's pretty straight forward if the above doesn't go as planned the problem is not the program.
Post by: PaddyPat on February 05, 2008, 05:35:00 PM
As for the SATA card I didn't install any drivers for it at all. It just detected itself and always worked so I didn't bother with the drivers.
That's all I can think of telling you at the moment.
Good luck.
Post by: brucieboy on February 12, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
QUOTE(NeonPinHead @ Feb 5 2008, 02:55 AM)
early in the thread i posted all my problems and my solution. I'm using the VT6421 controller card and i had to downgrade to the 5.20a version drives and now i get the read options right off the bat without having to unlock the drive first. I have to read it in spti mode or it doesn't work.
Download the V-Raid 5.20a Driver Here.
I had the same problem (could not select complete backup - but I could read the disc and create an inage from it using the current partition option) and so downrevved to 5.20A.
Now, although the complete backup is selected. the option to change this is greyed out as is the start button.
i have slected the correct type of drive and also xbox 360 media in options.
I have selected SPTI and ASPI but they stil remain greyed
ANy ideas from here???
TIA
brucieboy
Post by: uk_dan2k on February 14, 2008, 01:38:00 PM
Post by: Xzeter12 on February 14, 2008, 01:19:00 PM
Also I wondering if anyone else can answer this: Can you create a 0800 iso for the benq and swap it out with the game instead of flashing the firmware? I would think flashing and reflashing would leave you prone to bricking Xbox 360 DVD rom. I haven't tried it yet, but was just wondering if anyone else has attempted this and got postive results
Post by: Ryo1974 on February 15, 2008, 12:29:00 PM
Post by: uk_dan2k on February 19, 2008, 09:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Xzeter12 @ Feb 14 2008, 08:55 PM)
I just did that myself, however I have not had the chance to test the backup yet. I will do so later today. Question for you: Did you leave your Benq flashed with the 0800 fw or did you reflash it with the ix fw?
Yes after making the backup, i reflashed the benq drive back to its latest ixtreme fw - non 0800, everything played fine.
Post by: mattzane227 on February 24, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
Post by: Eluder on February 25, 2008, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: mattzane227 on February 26, 2008, 03:29:00 AM
Post by: Eluder on February 26, 2008, 07:43:00 AM
QUOTE(mattzane227 @ Feb 26 2008, 11:29 AM) 
xbins
Post by: podger on February 26, 2008, 07:45:00 AM
Post by: Eluder on February 26, 2008, 08:34:00 AM
QUOTE(podger @ Feb 26 2008, 03:45 PM)
Just use 2.5 to install and then copy in the 2.8 exe.....
Post by: brettwier on March 10, 2008, 12:34:00 PM
Post by: u0d cameron on April 08, 2008, 03:45:00 AM
Post by: kleinishere on May 11, 2008, 11:39:00 AM
Post by: kleinishere on May 11, 2008, 03:32:00 PM
Also, I have looked over the 2008 guide by textbook and can't figure out what iPrep does other than the certain things outlined in the guide. Is iPrep only useful for flashing iXtreme firmware or can it be used for the benq0800.bin as well? Also, when a person types "dBen ####### #####" and it reads the firmware where is this firmware saved - just as orig.bin on the USB thumbdrive? Is there a way to read multiple times and specify a certain filename?
If anyone can comment on these things I would really appreciate it.
Post by: juggy273 on January 10, 2009, 02:29:00 PM
Quote
XBC 2.8 Build 275:
-Added support for BenQ VAD6038 0800 firmware
(Note: This has had limited testing, be cautious)[/i]
The 0800 Release is a firmware replacment for the BenQ VAD6038 drive to allow you to backup your own games. It is, as always, not for use on xbox live.
Official Site: n/a (XBC by Redline99, Benq 0800 by commodore4eva)
Download: <a href="http://dwl.xbox-scene.com/iriez/Xbox_Backup_Creator_v2.8.0.275.zip">XBC 2.8 Build 275</a>
Download: Benq 0800 n/a (May be illegal under EULA/DMCA)
News-Source: http://www.xbins.org<br/ >
what is the difference in burn quality in using the built in xbc burn vs the link to imgburn to burn an existing image? - ie which should i use?
i have a 360 with a benq
Post by: tinpanalley on January 10, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
I keep getting errors while I burn and XBox Backup Creator retries and retries and then finally works. Can anyone help me figure out why this happens?
Thanks!
Post by: hggm on January 24, 2009, 12:28:00 AM
Thanks for the help!
Post by: nbitzis on January 24, 2009, 02:02:00 PM
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Post by: tinpanalley on February 15, 2009, 05:20:00 AM
I'm getting bad rips that crash from my Kreon drive using XBC. EVerything else works fine, but ripping from originals causes bad image files. Any ideas?
Post by: Takashi on February 15, 2009, 04:58:00 PM
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Post by: leo5150 on April 06, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
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Post by: sdboltdude on June 03, 2009, 10:25:00 AM
sart button always grayed log text "dvd-rom 5.xxgig"
i need a little love & help with this
Post by: Takashi on June 03, 2009, 07:13:00 PM
Post by: sdboltdude on June 03, 2009, 07:51:00 PM
before flashed fw
Post by: sdboltdude on June 08, 2009, 04:58:00 PM
QUOTE(sdboltdude @ Jun 3 2009, 06:51 PM)
all ready using 2.9 xbc
before flashed fw
IT'S ALL GOOD WORKS LIKE A CHARM 2 SAMMY AND 1 BEN-Q WORK PERFECT
Post by: neb15 on November 15, 2010, 09:25:00 PM
Ahh my bad I realize I should have posted in software>pc tools.
This post has been edited by neb15: Nov 16 2010, 05:47 AM