Cool Cool. Good work and good info. But we still have to throw away our bad burns extracted with Kreon. I mean this firmware is only to not return a bad value but it wont fix our bad kreon backups.
Or did I completely read this wrong since its late
QUOTE(Vipernig @ Dec 9 2007, 09:24 AM)
Cool Cool. Good work and good info. But we still have to throw away our bad burns extracted with Kreon. I mean this firmware is only to not return a bad value but it wont fix our bad kreon backups.
That's my question too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
The Kreon backups are not bad. It is just an error in the firmware. If the Kreon ripped a angle of 359 the 360 drive with ix 1.3 or less is going to add 0 or +1. If it adds +1, the value is over the maximum possible with a retail drive/game so it is detectable.
This FW fixes that error so 360 wraps around to 0 properly.
Correct me if I am wrong anyone, but I am pretty sure this was the issue. Unless the new FW does not completely fix jitter issues.
This post has been edited by mike8519: Dec 9 2007, 08:59 AM
Thanks for the new FW. My question is if we continue to use ONLY good rips that pass XDVDMulletter as well as Kreon checker, do we still have the need to update to 1.4? (using 1.2 rev 2 right now)
thanks in advance.
- Rewrote firmware and version detection. Works properly with all spoofed firmware.
- Added spoofed firmware detection
I'm actually happier because of this than because of the added security. So, yay!
I simply cannot express my gratitude for everyone who took place in this research with words.
If I already corrected all my backups with mulleter and kreon checker, is this still necessary?
QUOTE(mike8519 @ Dec 9 2007, 03:30 AM)
The Kreon backups are not bad. It is just an error in the firmware. If the Kreon ripped a angle of 359 the 360 drive with ix 1.3 or less is going to add 0 or +1. If it adds +1, the value is over the maximum possible with a retail drive/game so it is detectable.
This FW fixes that error so 360 wraps around to 0 properly.
Correct me if I am wrong anyone, but I am pretty sure this was the issue. Unless the new FW does not completely fix jitter issues.
For the most part, yes. I would like to emphasize upon the fact that you can still get a 359 degree angle from a samsung drive ripping, which 1.3 would = 360. However, this is less than 1% likely on a thousand SS rips. If it were my live account, and i was worried about detection, i would like to be 'normal' as much as possible. A 'normal' reply is 0100 or 0000 for the most part (like, over 95% of the time).
QUOTE(divertiti @ Dec 9 2007, 03:33 AM)
Thanks for the new FW. My question is if we continue to use ONLY good rips that pass XDVDMulletter as well as Kreon checker, do we still have the need to update to 1.4? (using 1.2 rev 2 right now)
thanks in advance.
Theoretically you should be fine.
QUOTE(trugamer79 @ Dec 9 2007, 03:41 AM)
If I already corrected all my backups with mulleter and kreon checker, is this still necessary?
read last answer 
I also updated the iprep definitions to the 1.4 as latest. These can be found in the usual places.
Will we have to wait for the next version of FWToolbox to flash a 78fk?
Sorry if this question is in the wrong place.
Have started a new thread about this, can you delete this post please?
This post has been edited by DeeRez: Dec 9 2007, 09:59 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 9 2007, 09:51 AM)
For the most part, yes. I would like to emphasize upon the fact that you can still get a 359 degree angle from a samsung drive ripping, which 1.3 would = 360. However, this is less than 1% likely on a thousand SS rips. If it were my live account, and i was worried about detection, i would like to be 'normal' as much as possible. A 'normal' reply is 0100 or 0000 for the most part (like, over 95% of the time).
Thanks for your reply.
I understand what the drive does when a 359 degree angle is found.
But what about the "bad ss" Kreon rips?
Are they to be considered accurate or not? I mean: is it ok for a game to have a 359 degree angle or is that value (and the ss) to be considered wrong?
I quote from the news:
The most accurate/valid SS replication is done with a samsung drive using Schtrom 360 xtract or XBC. So far, we have seen only a very small percentage of 6701 rips in comparison to kreon. Now, given that, i think it is important to inform that this value was previously normal with older games. It may or may not be normal with *every* new game, but with some so far.
excellent release..thanks for all teh hard work !
anyway so what speed is recommended or everyone is using these days ??
QUOTE(DeeRez @ Dec 9 2007, 04:16 AM)
Will we have to wait for the next version of FWToolbox to flash a 78fk?
Sorry if this question is in the wrong place.
Have started a new thread about this, can you delete this post please?
Yes, as stated in the first sentence of this news post.
QUOTE(Maer70 @ Dec 9 2007, 04:17 AM)
Thanks for your reply.
I understand what the drive does when a 359 degree angle is found.
But what about the "bad ss" Kreon rips?
Are they to be considered accurate or not? I mean: is it ok for a game to have a 359 degree angle or is that value (and the ss) to be considered wrong?
I quote from the news:
The most accurate/valid SS replication is done with a samsung drive using Schtrom 360 xtract or XBC. So far, we have seen only a very small percentage of 6701 rips in comparison to kreon. Now, given that, i think it is important to inform that this value was previously normal with older games. It may or may not be normal with *every* new game, but with some so far.
We are unsure if they are really 'bad' as of yet, or just more prone to specific odd timing. Its ok for a game to have that angle, however it only happens rarely. Its still legitmate.
@Iriez: is the 0x67 only problematic in 0x228 (where kreonchecker scans) or also in other regions of the SS?
What I'm getting at is: should SS files that pass kreonchecker be "normal" enough or could they still have "abnormal" 0x67 values at other positions?
Sorry, can you delete my thread also please? It's oh my god o'clock in the morning here and i've been up all night.
Thank you letting me know anyway, and a big shout to C4EVA et al, keep up the good work guys.
Remember kids, tiredness leads to stupid posts.
Since this is for all versions, dont i need to use dosflash anymore for benQ drives?
Is there a tutorial for BENQ for this new release available?
This post has been edited by J_star: Dec 9 2007, 10:19 AM
QUOTE(J_star @ Dec 9 2007, 04:53 AM)
Since this is for all versions, dont i need to use dosflash anymore for benQ drives?
Is there a tutorial for BENQ for this new release available?
I am sure you still need to use dosflash to dump the original fw and to erase/write the hack fw.
What was the Kreon checker actually looking at then? Are some discs encoded with a "360" value?
If the kreon checker was using disc jitter and only detecting the random collisions of a "360" value.. then why were some rips consistantly bad?
I just flashed my Samsung drive with the 8X firmware from 1.3 5X and there is a really annoying pitch associated with the 8X firmware. I'm going to try 5X and see if the noise goes away.
just upgraded my samsung MS28 to 1.4 12x, previously was using 1.3a 12x.
The drive is now very loud, sounds like its vibrating and spinning too fast. Got some stuttering in orange box intro cut scenes then when the drive slowed down it picked up. Going to try 8x firmware. Something seems off about the speed of the disk. It was not this loud on 12x before.
im waiting for someone to send me my original cuz i recently reformatted but yeah once i get it imma update as soon as i get it
im still very confused about this new update. Can someone plz clarify this for me?
First off, if I have a bad backup from a kreon drive, b4 updating to 1.4, it was possible to get banned due to bad timers being sent or something.
But if I update to 1.4, can I still play that bad backup from a kreon drive and this update will prevent those bad timers from being sent?
and also, im confused about the speeds.... whats the default 360 speed that it spins at, and what is the recommended speed to flash on the drive?
This post has been edited by KiLL CraZy: Dec 9 2007, 11:21 AM
QUOTE(KiLL CraZy @ Dec 9 2007, 05:56 AM)
im still very confused about this new update. Can someone plz clarify this for me?
First off, if I have a bad backup from a kreon drive, b4 updating to 1.4, it was possible to get banned due to bad timers being sent or something.
But if I update to 1.4, can I still play that bad backup from a kreon drive and this update will prevent those bad timers from being sent?
and also, im confused about the speeds.... whats the default 360 speed that it spins at, and what is the recommended speed to flash on the drive?
yes for question one and default is 12x speed depends on your preference of noise I prefer 5x since its very quiet but on games like guitar hero you will see a lag 8x seems to be the best bet
ok...
So Is my Kreon sh-d162c Useless For stealth Backups now ? 
I thought the kreon only did the bad rips randomly not consistently, so if i rip a game and then check if it is good or bad, and if it is bad,
i rip again and it should fix it...
but this ne 359 Degree stuff sounds serious,
Do we have to wait for another kreon FW now ?
So changing speed of your drive is not detectable? I was always thinging that MS can check if disc was readed with speed of 12x and then know who have changed FW. I'm not sure if I was wrong...?
First of all, there's absolutely no value in Kreon Checker with 1.4 FW. Delete it from your PC and move on. It only told you if your rip was possible to trigger the >359 calc bug in older firmwares.
Second, MS probably can't detect and certainly can't ban based on your drive speed. Even a stock 360 drive steps down to slower speeds as needed with scratched/dirty media.
Hi,
If I played bad kreon backups offline and wasnt online since then. After I'll flash my ms28 with 1.4 iXtreme should I first format the HDD before loging on to XBL? or the bad data is not being logged offline?
Thanks.
QUOTE(jackjumper @ Dec 9 2007, 01:22 PM)
Hi,
If I played bad kreon backups offline and wasnt online since then. After I'll flash my ms28 with 1.4 iXtreme should I first format the HDD before loging on to XBL? or the bad data is not being logged offline?
Thanks.
I've asked this same question many times and nobody seems to know the answer. It would be interesting to know if anyone who doesn't have a HDD has been banned.
QUOTE(jackjumper @ Dec 9 2007, 03:22 AM)
Hi,
If I played bad kreon backups offline and wasnt online since then. After I'll flash my ms28 with 1.4 iXtreme should I first format the HDD before loging on to XBL? or the bad data is not being logged offline?
Thanks.
Seeing as no one really knows, this is what is true for the moment:
There is nothing to indicate that checks are being done offline and storing some sort of data to the HDD or anywhere else on the console.
how does this explain the people that played the backups with the bad SS.
why didnt they get banned?
none of mine had a bad SS so im good but i am still interested.
will probably be updating my ms25 later today.
Hi
Can I just write over my benq drive with the new firmware, or do i have to write the orig.bat to it then flash it with 1.4?????
You can just flash over it with the new firmware once your drive key is inserted. Dosflash erases the chip before it writes anyway.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Dec 9 2007, 12:21 PM)
First of all, there's absolutely no value in Kreon Checker with 1.4 FW. Delete it from your PC and move on. It only told you if your rip was possible to trigger the >359 calc bug in older firmwares.
Second, MS probably can't detect and certainly can't ban based on your drive speed. Even a stock 360 drive steps down to slower speeds as needed with scratched/dirty media.
So your basically saying it doesn't matter if you play a game with a ss that resulted bad or good in kreon checker. It only mattered for firmwares prior to 1.4?
Erm , maybe because everyone in the UK's woken up to flash their 360's ? Pm me anyways....
Flashed my samsung at 12x this morning , all is working fine .
Thanks C4e you rock!
This post has been edited by xxXChris UkXxx: Dec 9 2007, 01:26 PM
I flashed from 5X 1.3 to 8X 1.4 and could not stand the high pitch noise my 360 was creating. So I flashed eventually flashed to 5X 1.4 and could not be happier.
Scratching my head on all this. All very exciting stuff nevetherless.
Anyway, 1.4 will wrap the angle round so as not to produce result beyond acceptible range of 359. That sounds fine - CHECK
This in essence means that rips reported as Bad by kreon checker will no longer be at risk of producing angle over 359 if used on 1.4. That sounds fine also - CHECK
So whats left to detect - what is the remaining risk?
Why recommend Samsung rips over Kreon if the hole has been plugged? - I understand that Samsung has higher probability of producing rips that are within acceptible range from the outset, but how does that now matter with iXtreme 1.4 ? - what is the fundamental difference remaining?
Cheers,
Muz
QUOTE(Muzzakus @ Dec 9 2007, 01:46 PM)
Scratching my head on all this. All very exciting stuff nevetherless.
Anyway, 1.4 will wrap the angle round so as not to produce result beyond acceptible range of 359. That sounds fine - CHECK
This in essence means that rips reported as Bad by kreon checker will no longer be at risk of producing angle over 359 if used on 1.4. That sounds fine also - CHECK
So whats left to detect - what is the remaining risk?
Why recommend Samsung rips over Kreon if the hole has been plugged? - I understand that Samsung has higher probability of producing rips that are within acceptible range from the outset, but how does that now matter with iXtreme 1.4 ? - what is the fundamental difference remaining?
Cheers,
Muz
Some of the c4eva transcript from #fw
QUOTE
[09:45] <c4eva> sammy 0800 records actual timings from the disk, so is best
[09:53] <c4eva> fact remains a new game may have new timing values and kreon will just put a fake/estimated value in
[09:55] <c4eva> kreon fw would have to replicate exact routines to do timers, this may not be possible with its drive hardware
[10:02] <c4eva> soulpet:fact would ramain that you are not using actual 360 drive hardware, and timings could not be trusted
http://dpaste.com/hold/27294/
Has anyone flashed an hitachi yet, for the life of me I cant get it to flash!!
I have tried safe mode, turning background programs off, and even tried to restore it, it wont have that neither...
This post has been edited by bodybag: Dec 9 2007, 01:39 PM
That´s some fantastic news. I really appreciate the efford from those great guys.
I do have some questions though. :-)
1) Do C4E accept donations for his effords? I know he does it for the fun but i´d love to give him a beer or two... Add some extra fun to it! ;-)
2) What do you think about the missing Video 1 Layer? Is Splitvit a true necessity?
3) What about On-line CRC check? Does anyone know if it´s still trustful or if some cleanse is needed?
Thanks in advance!
Just updated my sammy from 1.3_8x to 1.4_8x. All went smooth as butter.
Thanks C4E (and the rest) for all your hard work!
JH
I gues this technically means use the Samsung in the 360 or an oem.Because the SH-D162 drives are Samsung drives with Kreon Firmware.Guess my Blaster will come in handy but it kind of sucks because if the Kreon is not recoomended anymore it is basically a useless drive.Plus having to move the 360 to the pc for backups.
Where can I download it for BenQ drive?
can someone link me the latest iprep def file?
thanks!
QUOTE(jackjumper @ Dec 9 2007, 12:22 PM)
Hi,
If I played bad kreon backups offline and wasnt online since then. After I'll flash my ms28 with 1.4 iXtreme should I first format the HDD before loging on to XBL? or the bad data is not being logged offline?
Thanks.
QUOTE(destro604 @ Dec 9 2007, 12:38 PM)
Seeing as no one really knows, this is what is true for the moment:
There is nothing to indicate that checks are being done offline and storing some sort of data to the HDD or anywhere else on the console.
In my experience I think there is, I was banned in the first wave despite NEVER playing a game backup on Live or even having it connected to the network while playing a backup.
ok...
So the New xtreme FW will Save My ass From Being Banned because of bad Kreow backup ?
If it fixes the problem (gives a 0-359 value only, even on bad backups)...
Why would you recommend The samsung drive....
Its not like u are going to get banned with Kreon backups ,because this new FW will fix the 0-359 disc thing...
just updated my benq from 1.1 to 1.4
Everything went fine. Playing COD 4 from the sky again with more confidence? 
QUOTE(KcusTiRecnahc @ Dec 9 2007, 02:06 PM)
Some of the c4eva transcript from #fw
;[09:53] <c4eva> fact remains a new game may have new timing values and kreon will just put a fake/estimated value in
;[09:55] <c4eva> kreon fw would have to replicate exact routines to do timers, this may not be possible with its drive hardware
;[10:02] <c4eva> soulpet:fact would ramain that you are not using actual 360 drive hardware, and timings could not be trusted http://dpaste.com/hold/27294/
Well, that's bad news.
I was wondering: if a rip as a "not bad ss" (according to the Kreon Checker), is it to be considered good?
Or are these apparently valid ss to be re-considered too?
hi i have not done dash update what is best dash update then fw or the other way around thanks.
1 more thing to restore it do i just click the restore.bat then to flash it click the flash 1 thanks.
drive hitachi.
QUOTE(samfu @ Dec 9 2007, 09:14 AM)
In my experience I think there is, I was banned in the first wave despite NEVER playing a game backup on Live or even having it connected to the network while playing a backup.
There has to be. Either that or they're actually detecting the firmware.
After the first initial bannings occurred, I played it safe and never even played a backup since then. I've been playing originals for almost 3 months now... and I all of a sudden get banned on the second wave.
So, what does that mean? Either:
A) Information is being stored when you play backups offline
They have actually found a way to detect the firmware
C) The firmware's giving bad values to be read by xbl's servers (maybe just with older firmwares... maybe not)
and this new "degree value detection" only with "new games"... if there is degree value detection, then it's NOT just with new games. The latest backup that I played was crackdown, and that was released months ago.
So personally, I think that older firmware is just adding this extra 1 value on every game, backup or not. Maybe it was because I had an older firmware? I had whatever came with firmware toolbox 1.2. That's really the only other thing I can think of.
ok, I finally flashed my Hitachi and Benq.....I had a little trouble with the hitachi though, it wouldnt flash or restore, so off to #fw and asked why, I was advised to restore the hitachi 59 with with another version of the flash.
I restored it using 1.1, and updated it with 1.4 all works goooood!, a big thanks to all the ppl who were involved in this.
now i just need to read up on how to do the sammy drives......
I guess I am the only one having problems updating from 1.3 -> 1.4 Sammy MS28. after I do the 10 second trick it says it can't open input file. Anyone know how I can fix this? well I am gonna try on my second comp hopefully i get a better result.
**I have a Via PCI card**
QUOTE(leeds @ Dec 9 2007, 03:46 PM)
hi is it best to flash with a dvd movie in drive or game thanks.
hi is it best to flash with a dvd movie in drive or game thanks.
Neither, it should be empty (thats how all drive firmware updates are done)
thanks alot m8
QUOTE(R730 @ Dec 9 2007, 02:55 PM)
I guess I am the only one having problems updating from 1.3 -> 1.4 Sammy MS28. after I do the 10 second trick it says it can't open input file. Anyone know how I can fix this? well I am gonna try on my second comp hopefully i get a better result.
**I have a Via PCI card**
No I'm having trouble too I posted on this little while ago. The error your getting I'm pretty sure is because you have typed the wrong filename of the .bin you want to flash, Im sure it happened to me once. Either that or something else is wrong in the command line, are you typing
"mtkflash w 14.bin"
Or something similar? Thats always worked for me.
I once put /w and it had that error. Some say put /m in it aswell but Ive never needed to.
Think my prob is more serious
Good luck!
Nevermind I was doing something really retarded when I was updating. All works now. Thanks to all the Dev and beta testers for this release.
Hey guys, how are you flashing to iXtreme1.4? What instructions/method are you using?
Is it the EXACT SAME method that I used to flash my MS25 from xtreme5.2 to iXtreme1.2? Is it this method:
STEP I: Making your hacked.bin
1. Extract from iXtreme12.rar to a directory under the root C:\iXtreme
2. Place a copy of the orig.bin in C:\iXtreme where orig.bin is the original fw of the drive that was first associated to that MB. (I'm assuming this is the one I have in my Backup on my USB Drive that I used to flash original fw to xtreme5.2)
3. In Windows Explorer you double click on Make iXtreme firmware.cmd and a DOS window will open telling you the key. You will also be requested if you want to spoof when the orig.bin is not associated to a ms28. (I want to enter N here because I don't want to spoof my ms25 to ms28)
4. Now you want to see the message saying " ***SUCCESS*** " and Drive Key copied
5. Rename the resulting iX__.bin file to hacked.bin and copy it to your USB Drive.
STEP IV: Flashing your hacked.bin
1. Connect you PC sata cable to the X360 Drive
2. start your x360 and pc to the dos prompt (using the USB key)
3. type mtkflash w /m /sata hacked.bin
4. list of port will appear (if your mtkflash is correct)
5. select the port on your PC,
6. the pc will flash the firmware to the drive (it will show the 4 banks being flashed
Just replacing the iXtreme1.2 with the new 1.4???
Thanks!!!
QUOTE(nuke field ET @ Dec 9 2007, 03:35 PM)
There has to be. Either that or they're actually detecting the firmware.
After the first initial bannings occurred, I played it safe and never even played a backup since then. I've been playing originals for almost 3 months now... and I all of a sudden get banned on the second wave.
So, what does that mean? Either:
A) Information
is being stored when you play backups offline
(IMG:
style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) They have actually found a way to detect the firmware
C) The firmware's giving bad values to be read by xbl's servers (maybe just with older firmwares... maybe not)
and this new "degree value detection" only with "new games"... if there
is degree value detection, then it's NOT just with new games. The latest backup that I played was crackdown, and that was released months ago.
So personally, I think that older firmware is just adding this extra 1 value on every game, backup or not. Maybe it was because I had an older firmware? I had whatever came with firmware toolbox 1.2. That's really the only other thing I can think of.
Plaing with non stealth firmware huh. and to the original guy who said he never connected to Live quit lying man how in the heck did you find out you were banned then moron, this was a week before the live update!
QUOTE(samfu @ Dec 9 2007, 12:00 PM)
Neither, it should be empty (thats how all drive firmware updates are done)
or with the 0800 enable - i do it in that way.
Is the FW for the hitachi 78fk out yet? FW topic says 1.4 is out for all versions, but xbox scene post says otherwise.
For some reason, when I was trying to use the batch files for the BenQ 5X and 8X, the key wasn't properly inserted into the new firmware so I had to do it manually...anyone have this problem?
This post has been edited by Tranman: Dec 9 2007, 04:58 PM
So does this mean that I after upgrading to v1.4, I should re-rip all my games with my Samsung (360) drive; or will my Kreon backups work fine?
They're all 100% stealth, and they all pass in Kreon Checker.
Hope someone can clear this up Thanks.
And to someone a few posts back asking for the command to write a drive with mtkflash, I use:
CODE
mtkflash w /m /sata xtreme.bin
Flashed from 1.3 5x to 1.4 5x, all good.
It is my understanding, that while 1.4 fixes the 359 +1 = 360 problem, there is still an issue with "good kreon rips". There is an uneeded jitter added to some of the CR timers by the kreon fw. This in conjunction with the jitter added from ixtreme, may lead to too large discrepancies. Jitter should only be added once, by the ixtreme fw. Until kreon removes the jitter from his fw, it is advised to use a TSST (360 sammy drive) for ripping SS.
Yes this means even with 1.4, if you want to as safe as possible, you should scrap even " good kreon SS" in favour of a sammy SS.
If you can't remember if you ripped the SS from a kreon drive. You should rip the SS from the retail disk again using a sammy drive, then compare their TRUE CRC. "TRUE", meaning a CRC including the CR timers that can have added jitter. ATM, mulleter and schrtom ignore the jitter in their CRC, which isnt desirable in this situation.
If the true CRC of the SS is different from the SS from your rip, that indicates you rip was form a kreon drive. You should inject the SS from the sammy rip, and reburn.
Hey Guys... in the iXtreme14.rar, there's firmware for different speeds ... 2x, 5x, 10x, 12x ... which one should I use?
QUOTE(mickey797 @ Dec 9 2007, 11:50 AM)
Hey Guys... in the iXtreme14.rar, there's firmware for different speeds ... 2x, 5x, 10x, 12x ... which one should I use?
The decision is yours, but I believe retail disk are 12x.
QUOTE(mickey797 @ Dec 9 2007, 05:50 PM)
Hey Guys... in the iXtreme14.rar, there's firmware for different speeds ... 2x, 5x, 10x, 12x ... which one should I use?
It comes down to faster load times VS quieter operation. You decide.
Well, I'm not sure if I get it.
I use Verbatim DVD+R DL 2x - 6x Media and burn using Pioneer DVR-111D mostly on it's 2.4X speed. I thought it has something to do with this ...
If not, what are the consequences of using the 2x cause that's the one I choose.
Hi sorry if this is a dumb question but i have an hitachi 47 drive which i flashed through toolbox
is it possible to flash an hitachi through mtkflash if so can somebody please give me a link or please say how to do this thanks
QUOTE(mickey797 @ Dec 9 2007, 12:04 PM)
Well, I'm not sure if I get it.
I use Verbatim DVD+R DL 2x - 6x Media and burn using Pioneer DVR-111D mostly on it's 2.4X speed. I thought it has something to do with this ...
If not, what are the consequences of using the 2x cause that's the one I choose.
Thats your burn speed, not read speed. You should burn as slow as possible for a accurate burn. You can burn at 2x, and still have the 360read at 12x, if that is the version of the firmware you are going to flash.
i flashed from 1.3 12x to 1.4 12x with disc in drive seemed to be fine and is working. didnt mean to but didnt seem to affect anything.
QUOTE(Taken83oveR @ Dec 9 2007, 06:05 PM)
Thats your burn speed, not read speed. You should burn as slow as possible for a accurate burn. You can burn at 2x, and still have the 360read at 12x, if that is the version of the firmware you are going to flash.
Interesting ... so you mean it's really my choice and it doesn't really matter. Would there be an issue of my previous backups not working on either of the speeds I choose?
If everything is groovy, do you recommend I choose 12X?
Thanks!
Ive just got the iXtreme firmware , please could someone tell me what the 2x,5x,8x,12x folders are and if i need a specific one.
QUOTE(jc123rules @ Dec 9 2007, 07:09 PM)
Ive just got the iXtreme firmware , please could someone tell me what the 2x,5x,8x,12x folders are and if i need a specific one.
Different read speeds, pick the speed you want. 12x is the default for 360s
Actually you should burn at your media's rated speed, at least with the 360.
wow, can someone help me out plz? first off, i have a 78k hitachi, and on xbox-scene it says v78 is not supported yet, so I can't even bother with this new flash right? Or can I?
and once i update to 1.4, if I insert a bad kreon rip and play it, there is still a possiblity of being band? 1.4 doesn't fix the bad rips? you still need to rip them as a 1:1 copy?
and 3rd, I never updated with a diff drive speed, 12x is really getting on my nerves due to the noise. I still wanna try and keep the game loads fast so my next option is 8x, and just wanted to ask how much less nosier and slower is it compare to 12x? b/c once I flash it, I wanna do it once, I dont wanna do it twice.
thanks
QUOTE(KiLL CraZy @ Dec 9 2007, 12:57 PM)
and 3rd, I never updated with a diff drive speed, 12x is really getting on my nerves due to the noise. I still wanna try and keep the game loads fast so my next option is 8x, and just wanted to ask how much less nosier and slower is it compare to 12x? b/c once I flash it, I wanna do it once, I dont wanna do it twice.
thanks
Well, if you want it to be quiet...I'd go with the 5X, it's a good compromise. 8X is still kinda too noisy for my taste...however, with the 5X I sometimes have problems with the company introduction splash of some games...like it doesn't show up properly (GHIII) or it stutters for a bit (Forza 2)...other than that, I haven't really seen many issues with the slower loading of 5X.
QUOTE(Tranman @ Dec 9 2007, 01:04 PM)
Well, if you want it to be quiet...I'd go with the 5X, it's a good compromise. 8X is still kinda too noisy for my taste...however, with the 5X I sometimes have problems with the company introduction splash of some games...like it doesn't show up properly (GHIII) or it stutters for a bit (Forza 2)...other than that, I haven't really seen many issues with the slower loading of 5X.
so with 5x, it doesn't effect the game play? just like the intro/logos and stuff?
cut scenes and game play still runs smoothly?
SUCCESS!!
Just flashed to iXtreme1.4 (12X) from iXtreme1.2 (MS25) ... Everything seems to be working fine. Backups play fine!!
THANKS C4EVA!!
QUOTE(GomerPyle @ Dec 9 2007, 05:12 PM)
Plaing with non stealth firmware huh. and to the original guy who said he never connected to Live quit lying man how in the heck did you find out you were banned then moron, this was a week before the live update!
haha don't get so bent out of shape lol, I said I never PLAYED a backup online, nor had it connected to the network while PLAYING a backup.
Ah man, i can't get my hitachi to restore. I got it in mode B (both with slax and tray open method), windows gives it a letter (g), but restore.bat just keeps saying drive NOT restoring. It gives me 4 suggestions which i should try, but none of them work.
Any ideas? (i've tried it on a ICH5 chipset, and VIA 6241 chipset)
Anyone else having a problem with getting this from the usual places? It says it's invite only. Never had a problem before.
QUOTE(justicedreadz @ Dec 9 2007, 01:27 PM)
Anyone else having a problem with getting this from the usual places? It says it's invite only. Never had a problem before.
PM me if you cannot find it
This post has been edited by Lheurch: Dec 9 2007, 07:37 PM
QUOTE(Slrpgeit @ Dec 9 2007, 07:24 PM)
Ah man, i can't get my hitachi to restore. I got it in mode B (both with slax and tray open method), windows gives it a letter (g), but restore.bat just keeps saying drive NOT restoring. It gives me 4 suggestions which i should try, but none of them work.
Any ideas? (i've tried it on a ICH5 chipset, and VIA 6241 chipset)
I'm having the same problem. Never had problems restoring on previous flashes. Drive shows up in windows but restore.bat won't find it.
The thing is, you're not really supposed to mention where to get it, so you may want to edit your posts.
I have an odd question... If the iXtreme v1.3 firmware was not wrapping properly...
Did it wrap properly with original games?? Is it possible in rare cirumstances that an original game will gave a 360 angle value??
QUOTE(bodybag @ Dec 9 2007, 02:14 PM)
Has anyone flashed an hitachi yet, for the life of me I cant get it to flash!!
I have tried safe mode, turning background programs off, and even tried to restore it, it wont have that neither...
do a restore first, i was getting the same thing till i ran restore then did the new firmware
This post has been edited by joeyddr: Dec 9 2007, 08:23 PM
So where does this leave people who use a regular DVD drive and the disc swap method to rip their games? Or does anyone even do that anymore?
Thanks to everyone who are envolved in the firmware hacks.
Matt
[quote name='ZakMcRofl' date='Dec 9 2007, 04:50 AM' post='4172284']
@Iriez: is the 0x67 only problematic in 0x228 (where kreonchecker scans) or also in other regions of the SS?
What I'm getting at is: should SS files that pass kreonchecker be "normal" enough or could they still have "abnormal" 0x67 values at other positions?
[/quote]
Only that address.
[quote name='J_star' date='Dec 9 2007, 04:53 AM' post='4172287']
Since this is for all versions, dont i need to use dosflash anymore for benQ drives?
Is there a tutorial for BENQ for this new release available?
[/quote]
You can use the same method as before. Its not rocket science (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
[quote name='haris2887' date='Dec 9 2007, 06:11 AM' post='4172327']
ok...
So Is my Kreon sh-d162c Useless For stealth Backups now ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I thought the kreon only did the bad rips randomly not consistently, so if i rip a game and then check if it is good or bad, and if it is bad,
i rip again and it should fix it...
but this ne 359 Degree stuff sounds serious,
Do we have to wait for another kreon FW now ?
[/quote]
What you can do is check at offset 0x228 to see what value it is most commonly ripping at. 0100 and 0000 are most common. It is recommended to use that SS. Kreon is also coming out with a new firmware soonish.
[quote name='Emenems' date='Dec 9 2007, 06:13 AM' post='4172328']
So changing speed of your drive is not detectable? I was always thinging that MS can check if disc was readed with speed of 12x and then know who have changed FW. I'm not sure if I was wrong...?
[/quote]
No, it is not.
[quote name='jackjumper' date='Dec 9 2007, 06:22 AM' post='4172332']
Hi,
If I played bad kreon backups offline and wasnt online since then. After I'll flash my ms28 with 1.4 iXtreme should I first format the HDD before loging on to XBL? or the bad data is not being logged offline?
Thanks.
[/quote]
Playing backups offline is not a risk. You should not do anything except upgrade your firmware and have fun playing.
[quote name='Dark Seraph' date='Dec 9 2007, 06:41 AM' post='4172342']
how does this explain the people that played the backups with the bad SS.
why didnt they get banned?
none of mine had a bad SS so im good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but i am still interested.
will probably be updating my ms25 later today.
[/quote]
This was answered in the new post. Re-read.
[quote name='bodybag' date='Dec 9 2007, 06:41 AM' post='4172343']
Hi
Can I just write over my benq drive with the new firmware, or do i have to write the orig.bat to it then flash it with 1.4?????
[/quote]
You need to have your key. If you already have your original bin, then you can run firmtool to copy the key over to the new benq bin, or you can put the orig.bin in the ixtreme directory and run the batch file. There are many ways of doing it, all of them very simple.
[quote name='lazzeri' date='Dec 9 2007, 08:36 AM' post='4172378']
That´s some fantastic news. I really appreciate the efford from those great guys.
I do have some questions though. :-)
1) Do C4E accept donations for his effords? I know he does it for the fun but i´d love to give him a beer or two... Add some extra fun to it! ;-)
2) What do you think about the missing Video 1 Layer? Is Splitvit a true necessity?
3) What about On-line CRC check? Does anyone know if it´s still trustful or if some cleanse is needed?
Thanks in advance!
[/quote]
1: No
2: Not yet. We will see in the future
3: Not sure, the stealth360 database managers are working to clean any descreptancies up.
[quote name='haris2887' date='Dec 9 2007, 09:20 AM' post='4172409']
ok...
So the New xtreme FW will Save My ass From Being Banned because of bad Kreow backup ?
If it fixes the problem (gives a 0-359 value only, even on bad backups)...
Why would you recommend The samsung drive....
Its not like u are going to get banned with Kreon backups ,because this new FW will fix the 0-359 disc thing...
[/quote]
Because the samsung accurately reads/responds to timings via xbox360 hardware. If MS changes these values to screw with kreon's emulated routines, the kreon firmware would not respond the way a 360 is intended to.
1.4 should take care of any new timing alterations that were incorrectly read with kreon. This may not be true for the future.
[quote name='Maer70' date='Dec 9 2007, 09:33 AM' post='4172418']
Well, that's bad news.
I was wondering: if a rip as a "not bad ss" (according to the Kreon Checker), is it to be considered good?
Or are these apparently valid ss to be re-considered too?
[/quote]
Older games commonly had 6701. Kreon checker is not a accurate way to determine bad or good. It was just a tool to help with new games over the past 2-3 months to see if they returned that value.
[quote name='nuke field ET' date='Dec 9 2007, 09:35 AM' post='4172421']
There has to be. Either that or they're actually detecting the firmware.
After the first initial bannings occurred, I played it safe and never even played a backup since then. I've been playing originals for almost 3 months now... and I all of a sudden get banned on the second wave.
So, what does that mean? Either:
A) Information is being stored when you play backups offline
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) They have actually found a way to detect the firmware
C) The firmware's giving bad values to be read by xbl's servers (maybe just with older firmwares... maybe not)
and this new "degree value detection" only with "new games"... if there is degree value detection, then it's NOT just with new games. The latest backup that I played was crackdown, and that was released months ago.
So personally, I think that older firmware is just adding this extra 1 value on every game, backup or not. Maybe it was because I had an older firmware? I had whatever came with firmware toolbox 1.2. That's really the only other thing I can think of.
[/quote]
A: No.
B: No.
C: Older firmwares? Yes, non-jitter pre-ixtreme firmwares.
Yes, likely that is your issue. If you are using a older firmware, and your drive (in that 1 out of a thousand chance) pulls a 6701 in the SS off a RETAIL game, and the firmware adds +1 to make it 360, then you could possibly be banned using a RETAIL game. While this is not likely, it is theoretically possible (using ixtreme 1.3 or lower)
This post has been edited by Iriez: Dec 9 2007, 08:05 PM
I'm having a problem upgrading my Hitachi 47d from iXtreme 1.2 to 1.4. I have the drive in mode B fine and connected to my PC where windows vista recognizes the drive (as H:), but restore.bat gives me the following error:
(IMG:http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/7632/ix14yy4.jpg)
I receive the same error when trying the flashix.bat. I did not have a DVD in the drive when going into mode B, and I even repeated the process again just to be certain. The light flashes and it takes two pushes of the eject button to eject the drive. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 08:46 PM)
I'm having a problem upgrading my Hitachi 47d from iXtreme 1.2 to 1.4. I have the drive in mode B fine and connected to my PC where windows vista recognizes the drive (as H:), but restore.bat gives me the following error:
I receive the same error when trying the flashix.bat. I did not have a DVD in the drive when going into mode B, and I even repeated the process again just to be certain. The light flashes and it takes two pushes of the eject button to eject the drive. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance
Same problem and I tried everything. It's definitely in mode b but restore and flash won't see the drive even though it shows up in Windows. Tried everything and coming up at a loss.
This post has been edited by Ichabod: Dec 9 2007, 08:53 PM
QUOTE(Devedander @ Dec 9 2007, 02:29 PM)
So where does this leave people who use a regular DVD drive and the disc swap method to rip their games? Or does anyone even do that anymore?
I am also wondering about this. After ripping with wxripper, I always patched the image with Mulleter which does a crc check, which in return patches in the ss, dmi, pfi, and video partition if necessary.
This post has been edited by Taken83oveR: Dec 9 2007, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(Ichabod @ Dec 9 2007, 02:52 PM)
Same problem and I tried everything. It's definitely in mode b but restore and flash won't see the drive even though it shows up in Windows. Tried everything and coming up at a loss.
Damn. Well hopefully someone can help us. Would staying on the old FW be so bad if it came down to that?
QUOTE(DHR @ Dec 9 2007, 11:34 AM)
So does this mean that I after upgrading to v1.4, I should re-rip all my games with my Samsung (360) drive; or will my Kreon backups work fine?
They're all 100% stealth, and they all pass in Kreon Checker.
Hope someone can clear this up (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks.
And to someone a few posts back asking for the command to write a drive with mtkflash, I use:
CODE
mtkflash w /m /sata xtreme.bin
Kreon should be fine from this point to the past. We are unsure about the future. Most people are (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
QUOTE(ratskull @ Dec 9 2007, 12:04 PM)
Hi sorry if this is a dumb question but i have an hitachi 47 drive which i flashed through toolbox
is it possible to flash an hitachi through mtkflash if so can somebody please give me a link or please say how to do this thanks
Use the batch files within the ixtreme release. And, read a tutorial here, you are in dire need of one.
QUOTE(Slrpgeit @ Dec 9 2007, 01:24 PM)
Ah man, i can't get my hitachi to restore. I got it in mode B (both with slax and tray open method), windows gives it a letter (g), but restore.bat just keeps saying drive NOT restoring. It gives me 4 suggestions which i should try, but none of them work.
Any ideas? (i've tried it on a ICH5 chipset, and VIA 6241 chipset)
Also, i updated the hitachi pack to the latest modified batch files this morning. Last night i released a slightly older batch system with less error handling. Please grab from xbins again, and try again.
QUOTE(Ichabod @ Dec 9 2007, 01:32 PM)
I'm having the same problem. Never had problems restoring on previous flashes. Drive shows up in windows but restore.bat won't find it.
First, grab the new package. Second, if that doesnt work, grab a older release, like 2.3 and try the restore. Let me know if that works.
QUOTE(Devedander @ Dec 9 2007, 02:29 PM)
So where does this leave people who use a regular DVD drive and the disc swap method to rip their games? Or does anyone even do that anymore?
I dont think anyone does that anymore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
QUOTE(Taken83oveR @ Dec 9 2007, 02:56 PM)
I am also wondering about this. After ripping with wxripper, I always patched the image with Mulleter which does a crc check, which in return patches in the ss, dmi, pfi, and video partition if necessary.
Why on earth would you take your originally ripped image, and go and patch it? That defeats the entire purpose of ripping it yourself.
This post has been edited by Iriez: Dec 9 2007, 09:22 PM
for those of us who don't have a samsung drive in our 360, what are our options? if i get an oem samsung drive that has already been flashed, can i just put that in my pc or will i have to change my dvd drive in my console?
I am looking for some clarification on whether we need to re-rip all our kreon rips with a Samsung. Do I need to re-rip only the new games which use the modified challenge and response routines? If 1.4 takes care of the current timing alterations in the current round of games does that mean we do not need to re-rip anything with the 1.4 firmware and just use a Samsung to rip all future games to be on the safe side?
I am going to re-rip whatever number of my originals are necessary but I would prefer to keep it to only the games that need to be re-ripped, to save time and discs.
Basically what I am asking is should we re-rip with a Samsung 360 Drive:
1. All our Kreon rips
2. Just the recent games with the altered timings
3. Or Just use a Samsung 360 Drive from here on out?
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 9 2007, 08:39 PM)
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Because the samsung accurately reads/responds to timings via xbox360 hardware. If MS changes these values to screw with kreon's emulated routines, the kreon firmware would not respond the way a 360 is intended to.
1.4 should take care of any new timing alterations that were incorrectly read with kreon. This may not be true for the future.
This post has been edited by particleman: Dec 9 2007, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(SNAAAKE @ Dec 9 2007, 06:58 AM)
I am sure you still need to use dosflash to dump the original fw and to erase/write the hack fw.
I'm sure what he REALLYneeds to do is read the damn readme file before posting questions like that....
Geez ppl, is it THAT har to check for a readme file first????
QUOTE(Slrpgeit @ Dec 9 2007, 10:24 AM)
Ah man, i can't get my hitachi to restore. I got it in mode B (both with slax and tray open method), windows gives it a letter (g), but restore.bat just keeps saying drive NOT restoring. It gives me 4 suggestions which i should try, but none of them work.
Any ideas? (i've tried it on a ICH5 chipset, and VIA 6241 chipset)
Yea I kept getting the same errors on my 47 you have to use a older restore like the garyopa 2.3
then flash with the 1.4...I've been waiting all week for this so thank you C4eva hopefully I can flash and update
to new dash and not be banned again
QUOTE(Ichabod @ Dec 9 2007, 07:52 PM)
Same problem and I tried everything. It's definitely in mode b but restore and flash won't see the drive even though it shows up in Windows. Tried everything and coming up at a loss.
OK guys, I had the exact same problem, you need to restore using an older version of ixtreme, i used 1.1.......then flashed to 1.4
all good!
my xbox RROd'ed after flashed it didnt contain my orig.bin can i fix this i cannot flash my drive again cuz its not powering on!
This post has been edited by El3M3nT: Dec 9 2007, 09:34 PM
@Iriez:
I don\\\'t quite understand why we wouldn\\\'t be good in the future if this firmware makes sure games never report a 360 angle. Even if the kreon reported a new bad value in the future, the ixtreme would make sure it stays within the limits making it undetectable, how would this be different in the future?
This post has been edited by shlipshlip: Dec 9 2007, 09:27 PM
Thank you to the two responses above me! Trying now.
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 9 2007, 09:03 PM)
First, grab the new package. Second, if that doesnt work, grab a older release, like 2.3 and try the restore. Let me know if that works.
New package isn't restoring and the older ones aren't either. I mistakenly thought I had a 59dj since my banned 360 was one. This is a 78fk but a restore.bat should still work fine, right? Also can I just move the bins from the new fw over to the 4.5 toolbox and smartpatch as normal?
Can someone with a working restore.bat upload it somewhere?
This post has been edited by Ichabod: Dec 9 2007, 09:36 PM
QUOTE(Ichabod @ Dec 9 2007, 12:31 PM)
New package isn't restoring and the older ones aren't either. I mistakenly thought I had a 59dj since my banned 360 was one. This is a 78fk but a restore.bat should still work fine, right? Also can I just move the bins from the new fw over to the 4.5 toolbox and smartpatch as normal?
Can someone with a working restore.bat upload it somewhere?
Firmware isn't out for the 78fk yet you have to wait for a new firmware toolbox to flash the drive
restore.bat won't work as for moving the bins over to 4.5 toolbox I aint too sure about that
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:39 PM)
Firmware isn't out for the 78fk yet you have to wait for a new firmware toolbox to flash the drive
restore.bat won't work as for moving the bins over to 4.5 toolbox I aint too sure about that
Well that explains it. I thought a restore.bat would work on a 78fk, too but I wasn't really thinking. Thanks.
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 9 2007, 03:19 PM)
Yea I kept getting the same errors on my 47 you have to use a older restore like the garyopa 2.3
then flash with the 1.4...I've been waiting all week for this so thank you C4eva hopefully I can flash and update
to new dash and not be banned again (IMG:
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I got my FW restored using an older ixtreme version (1.2) but I am still unable to run flashix.bat without receiving the errors like I did before. My drive is in mode B and detected by windows. I wonder why it's not working still. Any ideas?
QUOTE
Why on earth would you take your originally ripped image, and go and patch it? That defeats the entire purpose of ripping it yourself.
Obviously the Wxripper image does not contain the DMI, PFI, SS, and video partition. Thats why my friend, as a standard drive cannot not rip that information from the disk, but can get the other raw information.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 08:43 PM)
I got my FW restored using an older ixtreme version (1.2) but I am still unable to run flashix.bat without receiving the errors like I did before. My drive is in mode B and detected by windows. I wonder why it's not working still. Any ideas?
now u have a restored hitachi, pop windows into safe mode and try flashing in safe mode.
QUOTE(El3M3nT @ Dec 9 2007, 03:22 PM)
my xbox RROd'ed after flashed it didnt contain my orig.bin can i fix this i cannot flash my drive again cuz its not powering on!
3RLOD doesnt mean 'its not powering on'. It will still power on, and as long as you didnt brick your drive you should still be able to read/write to it. Now, since you dont make much sense, i cant really help you. Try rewording your statement in a clear and intelligent manner, and we might be able to help you along.
QUOTE(shlipshlip @ Dec 9 2007, 03:23 PM)
@Iriez:
I don\\\'t quite understand why we wouldn\\\'t be good in the future if this firmware makes sure games never report a 360 angle. Even if the kreon reported a new bad value in the future, the ixtreme would make sure it stays within the limits making it undetectable, how would this be different in the future?
Who knows what the future holds? I can think of a few possibilities, but the last thing im going to do is publically announce how MS can combat the firmware. Sorry
QUOTE(bodybag @ Dec 9 2007, 03:47 PM)
now u have a restored hitachi, pop windows into safe mode and try flashing in safe mode.
Okay thanks, I will try this now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
QUOTE(shlipshlip @ Dec 9 2007, 08:23 PM)
@Iriez:
I don\\\'t quite understand why we wouldn\\\'t be good in the future if this firmware makes sure games never report a 360 angle. Even if the kreon reported a new bad value in the future, the ixtreme would make sure it stays within the limits making it undetectable, how would this be different in the future?
My understanding of it and correct me if im wrong is that although the 360 angle wont be reported the Kreon is not a real 360 drive. It therfore tries to emulate the 360 drive to create the SS info this process cannot be gaurenteed acurate so in future the only surefire SS is one made on a real 360 drive.
Saying that the kreon drives may be out a bit but may be within values close enough that MS cannot distinguish due to drive diferences across the board.
The question is can M$ find a defnitive way to tell the diff between a kreon SS and a legit drive responce.
That might all be wrong tho and i misunderstand
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 9 2007, 08:48 PM)
3RLOD doesnt mean 'its not powering on'. It will still power on, and as long as you didnt brick your drive you should still be able to read/write to it. Now, since you dont make much sense, i cant really help you. Try rewording your statement in a clear and intelligent manner, and we might be able to help you along.
Who knows what the future holds? I can think of a few possibilities, but the last thing im going to do is publically announce how MS can combat the firmware. Sorry (IMG:
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Hi Iriez
The possibilities that you can think of, would c4eva be able to combat these new M$ detections if applied?
When i hit the power button my xbox has 3 red lights and my power brick stays the same when I turn it on (orange). my fans do not start and nothing attemps to turn on. It worked perfect before i flashed it. When i made my Ix14.bin my DOS made it improperly and said in the cmd "the system cannot execute the specified program" but still makes the file. I flash with that and my xbox reads Backups as DVD's. so i turn it off take apart remake ix14.bin and try to flash it but, when i turn on my xbox it doesnt even startup and it has 3 red lights. Turn it off and on nothing same power brick is the same as well orange
This post has been edited by El3M3nT: Dec 9 2007, 10:02 PM
QUOTE(El3M3nT @ Dec 9 2007, 08:59 PM)
When i hit the power button my xbox has 3 red lights and my power brick stays the same when I turn it on (orange). my fans do not start and nothing attemps to turn on. It worked perfect before i flashed it. When i made my Ix14.bin my DOS made it improperly and said in the cmd "the system cannot execute the specified program" but still makes the file. I flash with that and my xbox reads Backups as DVD's. so i turn it off take apart remake ix14.bin and try to flash it but, when i turn on my xbox it doesnt even startup and it has 3 red lights. Turn it off and on nothing same power brick is the same as well orange
Im no expert but it sounds like u have a dead 360 on your hands, did you ground your 360?, does windows still see your 360 drive?, if so try reflashing it with the orig.bin
What if Microsoft releases a game that is supposed to report values of 360? Then all 1.4 users would be screwed.
QUOTE(bodybag @ Dec 9 2007, 03:47 PM)
now u have a restored hitachi, pop windows into safe mode and try flashing in safe mode.
Tried flashing in safe mode without any luck.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:12 PM)
Tried flashing in safe mode without any luck.
ok, does windows still see the drive?, are you still in mode b?, what drive do u have?
what version of windows r u using?, i was using vista and had to run the command prompt in admin mode.
QUOTE(bodybag @ Dec 9 2007, 04:15 PM)
ok, does windows still see the drive?, are you still in mode b?, what drive do u have?
what version of windows r u using?, i was using vista and had to run the command prompt in admin mode.
Windows sees the drive, I have the Hitachi v47D and I am in mode B (light is flashing). I am using vista and I will trying running command prompt as an admin. Will update.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 01:17 PM)
Windows sees the drive, I have the Hitachi v47D and I am in mode B (light is flashing). I am using vista and I will trying running command prompt as an admin. Will update.
Ok I have the same drive as you and I just flashed it so it can't be the firmware is has to be your PC configuration I have Xp by the way..anyways the way I did it was to restore using the old 2.3 firmware once that was done go to the1.4 folder and double click on flashix.bat then pick my drive letter andse read sped 8x
and that was it. the only thing i can think of is that you restored the drive so oviously the firmware detected it
so either you shut off the 360 and have to put it in modeb again with the slax cd then try flashing again
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 9 2007, 04:24 PM)
Ok I have the same drive as you and I just flashed it so it can't be the firmware is has to be your PC configuration I have Xp by the way..anyways the way I did it was to restore using the old 2.3 firmware once that was done go to the1.4 folder and double click on flashix.bat then pick my drive letter andse read sped 8x
and that was it. the only thing i can think of is that you restored the drive so oviously the firmware detected it
so either you shut off the 360 and have to put it in modeb again with the slax cd then try flashing again
I've tried restarting the drive and my computer a number of times now - I'm not using slax, I'm doing the 2 wire trick. It still hasn't worked to upgrade to 1.4, I don't have the old 2.3 to restore so I used ixtreme 1.2 instead. I'll try restarting everything another time I guess.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 01:26 PM)
I've tried restarting the drive and my computer a number of times now - I'm not using slax, I'm doing the 2 wire trick. It still hasn't worked to upgrade to 1.4, I don't have the old 2.3 to restore so I used ixtreme 1.2 instead. I'll try restarting everything another time I guess.
what firmware were you using before trying to update..I have the 2.3 available maybe I can email you the restore don't know if that is allowed but don't give up
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:26 PM)
I've tried restarting the drive and my computer a number of times now - I'm not using slax, I'm doing the 2 wire trick. It still hasn't worked to upgrade to 1.4, I don't have the old 2.3 to restore so I used ixtreme 1.2 instead. I'll try restarting everything another time I guess.
make sure that the firmware 1.4 is not burried under loads of directories, im sure i read that this was an issue with older firmwares( i could be wrong!), but im unsure of the latest releases.
what i had done was picked a speed 12x and copied that onto my c:
hope it all turns out for u!......as hackmy360 says........."dont give up"......
This post has been edited by bodybag: Dec 9 2007, 10:35 PM
I have just managed to restore my hitachi 59dj drive , i tryed restoring the drive with the new iXtreme 1.4 at 12x and it would'nt restore so i tried restoring it with iXtreme 1.2 with my original firmware files in the 12x folder and it restored. Once it was restored i was able to flash it with the new iXtreme 1.4 at 12x and it works fine.
Also i read that the best drive for creating backups was a sumsung and at the moment i have a sh-d162c flashed with kreon , please could someone tell me which samsung drive it is.
QUOTE(jc123rules @ Dec 9 2007, 01:34 PM)
I have just managed to restore my hitachi 59dj drive , i tryed restoring the drive with the new iXtreme 1.4 at 12x and it would'nt restore so i tried restoring it with iXtreme 1.2 with my original firmware files in the 12x folder and it restored. Once it was restored i was able to flash it with the new iXtreme 1.4 at 12x and it works fine.
Also i read that the best drive for creating backups was a sumsung and at the moment i have a sh-d162c flashed with kreon , please could someone tell me which samsung drive it is.
Ahh good for you 
the drive you a referring to would be the samsung ms-25 from an xbox 360
that is the safest way to creating an exact copy of a game...I also have the sh-d162C and at this moment no one is sure what is going on or if a new firmware is coming out for the kreon drive and its also not known if going on live with a kreon made backup can get you banned so the ms-25 is the drive you want to make your backups as close as possible to an original
do you think i would be safe-ish if i go on live with one of my backups which checks out with kreon checker as a GOOD rip using the new firmware iXtreme 1.4?
I have a problem I have a Hitachi59 and I cant flash with the 12x firmware but it works with the 8x does ne1 know how to fix this
edit: I found the problem its fixed
This post has been edited by grillo2k3: Dec 9 2007, 11:02 PM
QUOTE(bodybag @ Dec 9 2007, 03:54 PM)
Hi Iriez
The possibilities that you can think of, would c4eva be able to combat these new M$ detections if applied?
WILL THE YANKEE'S WIN THE WORLD SERIES IN 2011 ?????
Use your head.
QUOTE(skidude2121 @ Dec 9 2007, 04:09 PM)
What if Microsoft releases a game that is supposed to report values of 360? Then all 1.4 users would be screwed.
This will never happen. It makes no sense whatsoever from a technical aspect. Even if such a feat was possible, the whole point is that these replies vary depending on the mechanics of the drive. No SS is the same.
QUOTE(jc123rules @ Dec 9 2007, 01:51 PM)
do you think i would be safe-ish if i go on live with one of my backups which checks out with kreon checker as a GOOD rip using the new firmware iXtreme 1.4?
Well that is the only way we are ever gonna find out if this firmware works or not but again that is at your own risk as it is not known what MS are detecting
Well I'm about to give up anyways. Heh.
I've tried flashing it on my brother's PC to no avail (he has windows XP). Right now I have restored my FW to the original using iXtreme 1.2 but am unable to flash to iXtreme 1.4 using flashix.bat on the new FW. I've tried so many things and I just don't know what else to do.
Is it really bad to continue using iXtreme 1.2 if I can't get the upgrade to 1.4 done?
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 9 2007, 03:41 PM)
Ahh good for you
the drive you a referring to would be the samsung ms-25 from an xbox 360
that is the safest way to creating an exact copy of a game...
i am also assuming the Ms-28 is also the best option correct? i just ordered a blaster360. u can use that to rip from the drive correct? i guess i will put the kreon on the shelf for now.
Wow, setting the read speed to 8x makes a huge difference in volume.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 05:19 PM)
Well I'm about to give up anyways.
Heh.
I've tried flashing it on my brother's PC to no avail (he has windows XP). Right now I have restored my FW to the original using iXtreme 1.2 but am unable to flash to iXtreme 1.4 using flashix.bat on the new FW. I've tried so many things and I just don't know what else to do.
Is it really bad to continue using iXtreme 1.2 if I can't get the upgrade to 1.4 done?
Have you grabbed the package since 3 hours or so ago? I posted in this thread that i updated the package to include revised batch files for better handling. Re-grab and test.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 05:19 PM)
Well I'm about to give up anyways. (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Heh.
I've tried flashing it on my brother's PC to no avail (he has windows XP). Right now I have restored my FW to the original using iXtreme 1.2 but am unable to flash to iXtreme 1.4 using flashix.bat on the new FW. I've tried so many things and I just don't know what else to do.
Is it really bad to continue using iXtreme 1.2 if I can't get the upgrade to 1.4 done?
It's freaking working! I don't know what I did...but it's working. I brought my box back to my computer, moved the directoy of the 8x folder and tried it, and voila! Thank you guys so much for all your help, I may return seeking advice for the MS drive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
QUOTE
Added support for Samsung ms19
Have I missed something, when have these drives come out, are they new?
How does flashing work on these is it like the ms28?
QUOTE
This will allow for those who want their ms25,ms21,or ms19 to report as a ms28.
Also the same with the ms21, all I knew about was ms25 and ms28.
This post has been edited by comhen: Dec 10 2007, 12:24 AM
QUOTE(comhen @ Dec 9 2007, 11:20 PM)
Have I missed something, when have these drives come out are they new?
How dose flashing work on these is it like the ms28?
They're a very rare drive . People flash them exactly the same way as MS 25/28's . People either get them in old consoles , ebay (with a MS 26/28 sticker on top) or from Microsoft if the console is a refurb .
Okay, now that I've flashed my Hitachi successfully I'm attempting to flash my MS28. Not sure if it's the same as in the past but iPrep is updated since I last used it so I'm not sure. This is what I have tried so far:
1. Created USB bootable drive with iPrep (using the current version and latest definition file): Loaded the iXtreme 1.4 FW for Samsung (8x). Selected the VIA chipset from the SATA drop down menu and selected patch for MTKFlash. Also selected to make this drive a bootable device and then pressed the Prepare button at the bottom. iPrep created the bootable drive successfully.
2. Turned off the PC and then turned on the PC+X360 at the same time (without connecting the SATA from the PC to the 360).
3. Once the DOS screen came up, plugged in the SATA from the PC to the 360 and typed dSam 1234567 12345 (replaced with serial). This loaded the SATA list, but my XTREME drive was no shown, only the IDE Sec Master drive was shown.
I've had this problem before but I'm not sure how to solve it. The current FW on my drive is the iXtreme 1.2/1.3 (not 100% sure which one). Can anyone tell me where I went wrong or solve my problem? Thanks in advance.
Hey Iriez,
When i hit the power button my xbox has 3 red lights and my power brick stays the same when I turn it on (orange). my fans do not start and nothing attemps to turn on. It worked perfect before i flashed it. When i made my Ix14.bin my DOS made it improperly and said in the cmd "the system cannot execute the specified program" but still makes the file. I flash with that and my xbox reads Backups as DVD's. so i turn it off take apart remake ix14.bin and try to flash it but, when i turn on my xbox it doesnt even startup and it has 3 red lights. Turn it off and on nothing same power brick is the same as well orange!
This post has been edited by El3M3nT: Dec 10 2007, 12:38 AM
Have your 360 plugged into the sata card at boot but keep it OFF. YOU do not have to plug it in while the system is on this is wrong. Follow the instructions below and it will work every time.
Turn your 360 on when you reach the command prompt. Type dsam XXXXX XXXXX , it will give you the warning about having your 360 on etc hit enter. It will show iXtreme on the list , then turn your 360 OFF. Press the number of the iXtreme controller. Count to 10 Seconds then put your 360 back on it will start the dump. (sometimes people count 2 or 12)
Turn the 360 off once its done. Reboot and repeat the process to flash but with fsam XXXX XXXX.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 06:33 PM)
Okay, now that I've flashed my Hitachi successfully I'm attempting to flash my MS28. Not sure if it's the same as in the past but iPrep is updated since I last used it so I'm not sure. This is what I have tried so far:
1. Created USB bootable drive with iPrep (using the current version and latest definition file): Loaded the iXtreme 1.4 FW for Samsung (8x). Selected the VIA chipset from the SATA drop down menu and selected patch for MTKFlash. Also selected to make this drive a bootable device and then pressed the Prepare button at the bottom. iPrep created the bootable drive successfully.
2. Turned off the PC and then turned on the PC+X360 at the same time (without connecting the SATA from the PC to the 360).
3. Once the DOS screen came up, plugged in the SATA from the PC to the 360 and typed dSam 1234567 12345 (replaced with serial). This loaded the SATA list, but my XTREME drive was no shown, only the IDE Sec Master drive was shown.
I've had this problem before but I'm not sure how to solve it. The current FW on my drive is the iXtreme 1.2/1.3 (not 100% sure which one). Can anyone tell me where I went wrong or solve my problem? Thanks in advance.
This post has been edited by thepiecesfit: Dec 10 2007, 01:06 AM
QUOTE(thepiecesfit @ Dec 9 2007, 07:03 PM)
Have your 360 plugged into the sata card at boot but keep it OFF. YOU do not have to plug it in while the system is on this is wrong. Follow the instructions below and it will work every time.
Turn your 360 on when you reach the command prompt. Type dsam XXXXX XXXXX , it will give you the warning about having your 360 on etc hit enter. It will show iXtreme on the list , then turn your 360 OFF. Press the number of the iXtreme controller. Count to 10 Seconds then put your 360 back on it will start the dump. (sometimes people count 2 or 12)
Turn the 360 off once its done. Reboot and repeat the process to flash but with fsam XXXX XXXX.
Thanks you, trying this now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
QUOTE(El3M3nT @ Dec 9 2007, 06:35 PM)
Hey Iriez,
When i hit the power button my xbox has 3 red lights and my power brick stays the same when I turn it on (orange). my fans do not start and nothing attemps to turn on. It worked perfect before i flashed it. When i made my Ix14.bin my DOS made it improperly and said in the cmd "the system cannot execute the specified program" but still makes the file. I flash with that and my xbox reads Backups as DVD's. so i turn it off take apart remake ix14.bin and try to flash it but, when i turn on my xbox it doesnt even startup and it has 3 red lights. Turn it off and on nothing same power brick is the same as well orange!
What Ireiz is saying.. is that 3ROL and flashing the firmware has nothing to do with each other. Just by opening the xbox you remove screws and tension the motherboard different ways. Your system was about to get the ROD and when you mechanically stressed it you probably pushed it over the edge. Look into ficing the #ROL with an Xclamp or penny fix and then worry about flashing the firmware as they are seperate problems.
If I don't do any online gaming and only play backups, should I upgrade? I only play at home with the kids.
I just tried flashing the Samsung ms28 again following your instructions but found no success. I kept the drive connected but turned off, and once at DOS turned on the 360. It still did not find the XTREME drive.
Did I create my USB drive with iPrep correctly? Was I supposed to check off Patch for MTKFlash and make device bootable? I have this chipset: VIA VT6421A.
Thanks again.
QUOTE(JQ1 @ Dec 10 2007, 12:10 AM)
If I don't do any online gaming and only play backups, should I upgrade? I only play at home with the kids.
Nope, if you play offline all the time it won't make a difference if you're banned from live or not, unless you want demos,updates for game etc?
If we update to this firmware do we have to reburn the disc w/ "bad" kreon rip? I am kinda lazy opening my xbox again
Yes that is right, try unplugging the power to your sata drives/ cdrom this might be causing some problem. MTK flash patch in iprep helps yes. Leave all drives disconnected except your 360.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 07:17 PM)
I just tried flashing the Samsung ms28 again following your instructions but found no success. I kept the drive connected but turned off, and once at DOS turned on the 360. It still did not find the XTREME drive.
Did I create my USB drive with iPrep correctly? Was I supposed to check off Patch for MTKFlash and make device bootable? I have this chipset: VIA VT6421A.
Thanks again.
QUOTE(thepiecesfit @ Dec 9 2007, 07:24 PM)
Yes that is right, try unplugging the power to your sata drives/ cdrom this might be causing some problem. MTK flash patch in iprep helps yes. Leave all drives disconnected except your 360.
Okay, thanks. Trying again now.
my 360 doesnt even try to turn on is that really rrod?
I think your 360 is dead are you sure everything is hooked up righ
What's your advice, Iriez? If I have KREON rips (I know it's useless, but Kreonchecker says they're all GOOD) and if I use Ixtreme 1.4:
1) it's safe
2) must wait until mulleter db will be updated, in order to replace the ss
I know that the best is to buy a samsung ms 25/28 drive and re-extract ss files
Thanks
Okay, I disconnected all my other drives and connected my 360 disc drive to my another SATA port on the VIA chip set. This time the XTREME disk appears in the list in DOS. However, I encounter another error now.
Since the drive appears in the list, I press the port number associated with it (2), and then I'm supposed to power down my 360 and then press enter. However, immediately after I press 2 a new message appears on the screen and says the following:
ERR: Fail to initial IDE port, please reboot PC!
ERROR: File BACKUPS\XXXXXXX\XXXXX\Sam-OFW.bin does not exist! Program aborted!
What should I do?
No you didnt read my instructions clearly. You turn the 360 Off before you press 2 . After pressing 2 you count to 10 then put the 360 ON.
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 07:53 PM)
Okay, I disconnected all my other drives and connected my 360 disc drive to my another SATA port on the VIA chip set. This time the XTREME disk appears in the list in DOS. However, I encounter another error now.
Since the drive appears in the list, I press the port number associated with it (2), and then I'm supposed to power down my 360 and then press enter. However, immediately after I press 2 a new message appears on the screen and says the following:
ERR: Fail to initial IDE port, please reboot PC!
ERROR: File BACKUPS\XXXXXXX\XXXXX\Sam-OFW.bin does not exist! Program aborted!
What should I do?
QUOTE(thepiecesfit @ Dec 9 2007, 07:56 PM)
No you didnt read my instructions clearly. You turn the 360 Off before you press 2 . After pressing 2 you count to 10 then put the 360 ON.
I know, I tried this as well to no avail. I was simply saying that I also tried it the other way like it is suggested in DOS.
I believe my error has something to with flashing back to the original FW. I do not have orig.bin from my FW upgrade to iXtreme 1.2. I think that I am maybe supposed to use this before I flash to iXtreme 1.4 and cannot go directly from 1.2 to 1.4?
Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not, what can I do since I don't have orig.bin?
I'd just like to add my personal thanks to commodore4eva and everyone else who contributed towards the development of this release. It's good to see such a passionate and dedicated team on the scene.
if you dont have the original firmware are you running dsam ?. or did dsam pass sucessfully and fsam wont?
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 08:00 PM)
I know, I tried this as well to no avail. I was simply saying that I also tried it the other way like it is suggested in DOS.
I believe my error has something to with flashing back to the original FW. I do not have orig.bin from my FW upgrade to iXtreme 1.2. I think that I am maybe supposed to use this before I flash to iXtreme 1.4 and cannot go directly from 1.2 to 1.4?
Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not, what can I do since I don't have orig.bin?
QUOTE(thepiecesfit @ Dec 9 2007, 08:08 PM)
if you dont have the original firmware are you running dsam ?. or did dsam pass sucessfully and fsam wont?
It fails on dSam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Okay, I re-did it and instead of doing the dSam, I only performed the fSam and it worked fine. I think since I don't have the orig.bin from the previous flash, I can't complete the dump. Thanks for all your help though.
QUOTE(thepiecesfit @ Dec 10 2007, 12:56 AM)
No you didnt read my instructions clearly. You turn the 360 Off before you press 2 . After pressing 2 you count to 10 then put the 360 ON.
No need for this count to 10 rubbish.
1- turn off drive
2- press correct choice
3- turn on drive
I turn my drive on less than a second after I press the button, works every time.
QUOTE(kreeeee @ Dec 9 2007, 07:48 PM)
No need for this count to 10 rubbish.
1- turn off drive
2- press correct choice
3- turn on drive
I turn my drive on less than a second after I press the button, works every time.
Your probably running it as a bad flash recover method, for those who aren't doing this its not that simple
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 9 2007, 09:03 PM)
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QUOTE(Devedander @ Dec 9 2007, 02:29 PM)
So where does this leave people who use a regular DVD drive and the disc swap method to rip their games? Or does anyone even do that anymore?
I dont think anyone does that anymore
Sadly that was the direction I was looking to go... so is it something that is considered not a possibility anymore?
ie Best=360 Samsung drive, next best = Kreon, Doesn't work anymore = WXripper?
In my opinion Wxripper works just fine, as long as we can patch the needed info in with Mulleter.
QUOTE(Soulja85 @ Dec 10 2007, 01:18 AM)
Nope, if you play offline all the time it won't make a difference if you're banned from live or not, unless you want demos,updates for game etc?
Thank you for the response. Good luck to the rest of you guys! Cheers.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
What speed is more secure for hitachi with Ixtreme 1.4 -
5x 8x or 12x?
Thanks
QUOTE(bazzokabill @ Dec 9 2007, 09:58 PM)
What speed is more secure for hitachi with Ixtreme 1.4 -
5x 8x or 12x?
Thanks
People say MS is not checking for this....but what if they decide to? I understand the drives fluctuate with speed, but at the same time 12x just seems more safe IMO. Then again, i wouldn't mind having a more quiet system while also preserving the laser. gRRrr what to do? lol (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
when the fall update came out to support divx i downloaded it and didnt get ban so then i update to firmware 1.4 just now and i am not able to play my backups has anyone had the same problem? Also the drive seems to be doing a clicking sound when i insert any backup or original. 
QUOTE(samfu @ Dec 10 2007, 01:14 AM)
In my experience I think there is, I was banned in the first wave despite NEVER playing a game backup on Live or even having it connected to the network while playing a backup.
Oblivious you had you network/wireless connected otherwise how would you know that you were banned.
You don't need to have a Gold account to be banned nor play against others over live, just that your console in connect to live is enough.
QUOTE(brandogg @ Dec 10 2007, 04:21 AM)
Actually you should burn at your media's rated speed, at least with the 360.
That's true. Burn your media at it rated speed to obtain a better burn. I.e. if its 2.4x media burn at 2.4x if its 8x burn at 8x
QUOTE(TIME2PLAYDAGAME @ Dec 10 2007, 02:12 PM)
People say MS is not checking for this....but what if they decide to? I understand the drives fluctuate with speed, but at the same time 12x just seems more safe IMO. Then again, i wouldn't mind having a more quiet system while also preserving the laser. gRRrr what to do? lol (IMG:
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If that was the case then everyone with scratched discs would be banned because ALL stock firmware reduce the read speed if there are problems reading data (not just XBOX). M$ won't ban based on read speed
Lastly,
Please read ALL pages before asking question as your question may have been answered already. Its not that hard, I just read 11 Pages in 20 minutes.
This post has been edited by minooch: Dec 10 2007, 04:42 AM
Well first I'd like to thank C4EVA for squaring us all away like always. I just flashed to the new 1.4 a couple of hours ago and it's great! I set my speed at 8x for 12x is just too loud and I can always change if needed. I love the simple fact that I can flash from my laptop's pc card. I've also added a blaster to my console so I don't have to open any of my machines anymore. I only had to construct a long enough cable from the molex connector inside the PC to the blaster. I used 20 Gauge wire to splice between two molex connectors. One end male the other female. Now when I need to reflash, all I have to do is pull the molex cable from my PC and pop it into my blaster. Then plug the SATA cable into the blaster leading to the PC card (laptop) and I'm ready to rock! Thanks again to texbook and that great tut from 360mods.net. Thanks to the entire XScene and all who contributed to keep the site up and running.
QUOTE(minooch @ Dec 9 2007, 10:38 PM)
Lastly,
Please read ALL pages before asking question as your question may have been answered already. Its not that hard, I just read 11 Pages in 20 minutes.
I agree, i just read all 11 pages and saw the same questions asked alot of times. Just wish i could read as fast as you, lol. think it took me close to an hour. Well, seeing as how i read all the pages, i'll start flashing my Benq in the morning. all the questions i wanted to ask were answered so i'm all set.
Great work on the firmware Guys, Thnx
Iriez,
Thanks for attempting to ask everone questions.I have a few myself.I have read through pretty much every post on the forum concerning the wrapping problems.So I have a pretty good handle on everything.
I am glad I have a Blaster but the Kreon method was more effiecent.
Anyway the Ix 1.4 supposedly fixes the 360 out of bounds ss. The question I have is if you burned a backup that is already out of bounds (Like I have seen alot of Halo and Mass Effect owners here stating were shown as out of bounds) Would that be wrapped down right away?I was thinking there was a possibility of borderline discs possibly not being wrappped right away or the possibility of the firmware glitching and not catching it and showing a bad log.
More or less rather than take chances I would like to burn the border line discs again without going through the whole library.I know you said all the Kreon burns so far should be safe but you never know with firmware.So to end is there any way to get an actual reading of what the ss file is. Kreon Checker was kind of incomplete because all it did was say good or bad.
QUOTE(ROBJETS @ Dec 10 2007, 06:23 AM)
Iriez,
Thanks for attempting to ask everone questions.I have a few myself.I have read through pretty much every post on the forum concerning the wrapping problems.So I have a pretty good handle on everything.
I am glad I have a Blaster but the Kreon method was more effiecent.
Anyway the Ix 1.4 supposedly fixes the 360 out of bounds ss. The question I have is if you burned a backup that is already out of bounds (Like I have seen alot of Halo and Mass Effect owners here stating were shown as out of bounds) Would that be wrapped down right away?I was thinking there was a possibility of borderline discs possibly not being wrappped right away or the possibility of the firmware glitching and not catching it and showing a bad log.
More or less rather than take chances I would like to burn the border line discs again without going through the whole library.I know you said all the Kreon burns so far should be safe but you never know with firmware.So to end is there any way to get an actual reading of what the ss file is. Kreon Checker was kind of incomplete because all it did was say good or bad.
From what i've understood so far, even if Kreon Checker says that your backup is bad, if you flash to 1.4 ixtreme you shouldn't worry about it anymore. (BTW; this question was answered multiple times in this thread)
QUOTE(bazzokabill @ Dec 9 2007, 06:58 PM)
What speed is more secure for hitachi with Ixtreme 1.4 -
5x 8x or 12x?
Thanks
I flashed my hitachi and set the speed to 8x I can't believe how quiet it is so if you want the best of both worlds just set it to 8x fast load times and really quiet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 10 2007, 06:39 AM)
QUOTE(nuke field ET @ Dec 9 2007, 09:35 AM)
So, what does that mean? Either:
A) Information is being stored when you play backups offline
(IMG:
style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) They have actually found a way to detect the firmware
C) The firmware's giving bad values to be read by xbl's servers (maybe just with older firmwares... maybe not)
A: No.
B: No.
C: Older firmwares? Yes, non-jitter pre-ixtreme firmwares.
Hi Iriez, thanks for providing some useful information in this thread instead of the usual panic and rumour.
For interest's sake, could you please give some more details on how you know that information is definitely not being stored when playing backups offline?
There have been a few reports of people not being online (or even not using their 360) at the exact moment of the most recent ban. Apparently they only discovered the ban after going online later. I know these reports are uncommon and maybe untrustworthy, but they do suggest the possibility of the 360 storing information offline.
trust me information is not being stored period.........if it was I would of been banned a long time ago so im almost absolutely sure that its not being stored only way to be safe is to have the network cable unplugged when playing backups and make sure the backups you make are your own
Its not been stored on the 360 i can vouch for that as well.
When I try to do fSam 1234567 12345 (replaced with serial) it says
"Sam-CFW.bin for 360 doesnt exist - aborting!"
what does that mean?
QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Dec 10 2007, 06:57 AM)
Its not been stored on the 360 i can vouch for that as well.
I tend to agree. I think the confusion comes in because people don't realize that if you have your cable plugged in, you are online. Just because you aren't actually playing a game online, it doesn't mean your console isn't communicating with MS to upload achievements, poll friends etc. The only way to be safe is unplug the ethernet cable as other posters have already said.
I would bet that those who have said they got banned while "offline" really meant that they weren't actually playing matches against anyone but still had the cable plugged in at some point with the backup in the drive.
I could be wrong though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I'm usually no dummy, but this time with all the nods of understanding and general enthusiasm - I certainly feel dim witted.
Can someone please summarise for me (the only one that doesn't get it) : what exactly is the remaing potential for detection ? Why does it matter to use the samsung over the kreon if the 359 loop is now fixed ? If the 0-359 range is within acceptible tollerances for all games, then what does it matter to have more accurate rips in this regard?
Cheers,
Muz
I just flashed one of my Hitachi's with 1.4 and yes it does sound quiet, but then the reading of the disc becomes more relevant. I stand my system verticle. I guess since it spins at faster speeds @ 12x, the disc is held to the tray better? Other than that, i don't notice any real difference between 8-12x loading.
Also, while restoring my origional fw, i had 2 sectors fail but still completed at 100%. I can't remember both but one was definately the device controller i/o. Another thing was, while flashing, in the begining it said i was flashing with 8x but then while the actual flashing was going on, all i saw was stuff about 5x while flashing sectors....Is that correct? I know i used the 8x folder
QUOTE(B-Fir3 @ Dec 9 2007, 02:46 PM)
I'm having a problem upgrading my Hitachi 47d from iXtreme 1.2 to 1.4. I have the drive in mode B fine and connected to my PC where windows vista recognizes the drive (as H:), but restore.bat gives me the following error:
(IMG:
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/7632/ix14yy4.jpg)
I receive the same error when trying the flashix.bat. I did not have a DVD in the drive when going into mode B, and I even repeated the process again just to be certain. The light flashes and it takes two pushes of the eject button to eject the drive. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance
lol look at the path, how long it is. put ixtreme in the root of your drive and try again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
If i wanted to use an Xbox 360 Samsung drive for backing up.
Is the following statement still true (an excerpt from the Textbook tutorial)?
NOTE! The iXtreme firmware does not have the ability to be recognized
in Windows with the 0800 disc and therefore cannot be used to backup
games. The only way to backup games with a Samsung drive is if it is
flashed with the xtrm0800 firmware (from the very first firmware release) or
with an Xtreme firmware and using the 0800 disc.
if it is still true, how do people use it as a backup drive?
it sounds unpractical to constantly alternate flash just to make a backup.
Is there any updated guideline for a backup using Samsung Drive?
Sorry if I missed such a guideline, most people refer to the textbook tutorial as the best source of reference.
I was trying to upgrade my MS25 to the new iXtreme 1.4.
When using mtkflash I got this error "erasing ... chip erase" which it hung on and now i get Error 65
(IMG:http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/asohz/Picture.jpg)
I have VIA chipset and in the past I had used the 0800 disk to flash.
This time I just used the 10 sec trick.
Any ideas?
This post has been edited by asohz: Dec 10 2007, 08:19 AM
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 10 2007, 05:51 AM)
trust me information is not being stored period.........if it was I would of been banned a long time ago so im almost absolutely sure that its not being stored only way to be safe is to have the network cable unplugged when playing backups and make sure the backups you make are your own (IMG:
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I respectfully disagree
because you havent been banned doesent prove "information is not being stored", logically Microsoft would most likely log your system data with a trojan type program that comes with the latest Xbox Live update
QUOTE(asohz @ Dec 10 2007, 08:17 AM)
I was trying to upgrade my MS25 to the new iXtreme 1.4.
When using mtkflash I got this error "erasing ... chip erase" which it hung on and now i get Error 65
(IMG:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/asohz/Picture.jpg)
I have VIA chipset and in the past I had used the 0800 disk to flash.
This time I just used the 10 sec trick.
Any ideas?
why ??
i flash yesterday another Benq drive to 1.3c and evrything is good
ninjashoes
They cant do that. Thats against the low. They must notify u what the update contains, If not i think its called Obtaining Information By deception. Or some gay law.
So im guessing the 2 sectors that failed during the restoring of the orig.bin mean nothing as long as it reads 100% at the end & all flashed 100%? Everything is working fine, its quiet(8x) and origionals & backups work. I have a copy of the "real" orig.bin with key incase this means anything. This was an upgrade from 1.2 rev2 sense fix.
*NOTE* I did use a banned system(MS25) to power the system/drive if that makes any difference for the 2 failed sectors?
This post has been edited by TIME2PLAYDAGAME: Dec 10 2007, 10:48 AM
QUOTE(ninjashoes @ Dec 9 2007, 11:46 PM)
I respectfully disagree
because you havent been banned doesent prove "information is not being stored", logically Microsoft would most likely log your system data with a trojan type program that comes with the latest Xbox Live update
All Speculation. Where are the facts? What about 360's without HDD? Are you suggesting that there is non-volatile storage on the motherboard that has just been overlookedos can't be found? Furthermore, what is the point of analyzing live logs if the inquiries and challenge commands are coming from the console? I'm not saying it's not possible; our information changes all the time... speculative theories lead to nothing but confusion and mis-information.
At this point, there is nothing that would indicate PFI, DMI, SS, C/R timings, or any related data is being stored on the console in some report waiting to be uploaded to MS as soon as you to log on to live.
Let's just stick to facts.
This post has been edited by destro604: Dec 10 2007, 10:35 AM
I've been getting mixed opinions on this matter. I would like to know if lower speed reduces the life span of my drive or is it higher speed firmwares that reduces the lifetime of my drive, and also why. Besides using crappy media does the firmware speed reduce the lifespan of the 360 drive?
QUOTE(ACiDSTEW @ Dec 10 2007, 10:37 AM)
I've been getting mixed opinions on this matter. I would like to know if lower speed reduces the life span of my drive or is it higher speed firmwares that reduces the lifetime of my drive, and also why. Besides using crappy media does the firmware speed reduce the lifespan of the 360 drive?
The moment you decrease the speed at which media is being read, you instantly assist yourself in gaining extra time with your console. Less speed will mean less generated heat and noise. less vibrations loosening the connections in the drive. Overall a better experience. Drives do not need to be 12x all the time. The way a PC works is to spin up when it needs more data. Less data and it reads slower.
so having 12x speed means the xbox 360 reads it 12x all time? by lowering the speed, does it help read lower quality DVDr better when playing backups?
i thought if a disk can't be read it will slow down to retry reading...
This post has been edited by redwolf: Dec 10 2007, 12:32 PM
QUOTE(the soul poet @ Dec 10 2007, 12:51 PM)
The moment you decrease the speed at which media is being read, you instantly assist yourself in gaining extra time with your console. Less speed will mean less generated heat and noise. less vibrations loosening the connections in the drive. Overall a better experience. Drives do not need to be 12x all the time. The way a PC works is to spin up when it needs more data. Less data and it reads slower.
But the 360 acts this way also, it doesn't always read at 12x does it, it also spins up faster when a faster data load is required so its not always thrashing hard at 12x. I agree reading at slower speeds means more accurate reading from disk but does forcing it to run slower than stock really prolong its life when the stock speed is anything up to 12x?
Example - if running at 8x doesn't the drive have to spin for longer to load the data required where as running at 12x means a faster loading time therefore creating less work on the drive over all ?
Perhaps Iriez or someone in the know could give some expert technical advice on the subject (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Dec 10 2007, 10:19 AM)
ninjashoes
They cant do that. Thats against the low. They must notify u what the update contains, If not i think its called Obtaining Information By deception. Or some gay law.
anti competitive behaviour is also against the law but that dont stop microsoft does it
All I want to know is this:
1. If there's any possible damage that could be inflicted to my Benq-drive if I choose another speed than the stock 12x-speed.
2. If I choose a 5x or 8x-speed, is there no sideeffects such as, bugs/lag in games, am I looking at double-loadtimes, will all my games work just as well as it would using the original 12x-speed?
Thankful for any helpful answer.
/Chris.
QUOTE(SpaceBuddha @ Dec 10 2007, 02:31 PM)
All I want to know is this:
1. If there's any possible damage that could be inflicted to my Benq-drive if I choose another speed than the stock 12x-speed.
2. If I choose a 5x or 8x-speed, is there no sideeffects such as, bugs/lag in games, am I looking at double-loadtimes, will all my games work just as well as it would using the original 12x-speed?
Thankful for any helpful answer.
/Chris.
ive done my benq on 8x i really cant see the diffrence (speed wise)to be honest but maybe thats just me
& as for bugs nope they all working fine
Apparently, iXtreme 1.4 will be released for Hitachi 78/79 drives 'shortly'.. A realistic ETA for this would probably be.. Early January I suppose?.. Since it will require the Firmware Toolbox to be updated?
If any more experienced members more aware of ETA's for 78/79 releases after firmware releases for other drives can spread their knowledge, much appreciated.
I'm in no rush to get anything done, as my Maximus 79 Passkey is still on its way here through the mail, but just wanted to know if it'll be worthwhile of doing a 2-step approach and temporarily popping in iXtreme 1.2 and pulling the ethernet plug off (I don't play Live much) and than updating when the time needs be, or just hold a stakeout until the release.
If the likelihood is that it's going to be out within a week, than I'd totally just give it a wait.
So if someone knows any general ETA based on their knowledge from previous releases, everything is much appreciate in regards to your input.
Cheers
Hello all
I am yet another person in need of help and I sure hope that someone can help me. I don't think it's an issue or a question that has been asked. I have been reading this thread since it started.
Anyway, here's the situation, I've got a 59DJ drive and I flashed it with firmware toolbox with success.
I've now attempted to flash the drive with the new firmware and have come into difficulties.
I got the drive in mode B, got the drive detected in windows and launch the restore.bat file, it didn't work from the folder that it was in on the desktop and so I moved it into the root of the CD.
I ran the file from there and I got;
RESTORING DRIVE F: HITACHI V.59 FIRMWARE - 59Fflash
Restoring 00/11 Sector 90033000 <UnStealth>
_
and it is now stuck or hanging at that point and I have not dared touch it until I've found out what the best course of action is.
I fear that this could have been caused by the fact that I have a disc in the drive, the drive is spinning as I type.
I suppose the question is, am I safe to quit the command prompt, eject the drive and run the restore again or is there something more detailed that I must do?
I feel like an idiot asking the question because I've managed to come all this way through simply reading everything and anything but I'm really stuck here and want to give my drive the best chance of not being bricked.
This post has been edited by magichew: Dec 10 2007, 02:39 PM
QUOTE(magichew @ Dec 10 2007, 02:39 PM)
Hello all
I am yet another person in need of help and I sure hope that someone can help me. I don't think it's an issue or a question that has been asked. I have been reading this thread since it started.
Anyway, here's the situation, I've got a 59DJ drive and I flashed it with firmware toolbox with success.
I've now attempted to flash the drive with the new firmware and have come into difficulties.
I got the drive in mode B, got the drive detected in windows and launch the restore.bat file, it didn't work from the folder that it was in on the desktop and so I moved it into the root of the CD.
I ran the file from there and I got;
RESTORING DRIVE F: HITACHI V.59 FIRMWARE - 59Fflash
Restoring 00/11 Sector 90033000 <UnStealth>
_
and it is now stuck or hanging at that point and I have not dared touch it until I've found out what the best course of action is.
I fear that this could have been caused by the fact that I have a disc in the drive, the drive is spinning as I type.
I suppose the question is, am I safe to quit the command prompt, eject the drive and run the restore again or is there something more detailed that I must do?
I feel like an idiot asking the question because I've managed to come all this way through simply reading everything and anything but I'm really stuck here and want to give my drive the best chance of not being bricked.
I Would say if it isnt locked up and you can quit it, I would eject the disc and quit the command prompt then try again. DO NOT POWER THE DRIVE OFF. Dont power that drive off till you fix it.
I have a similar question.
I have iXtreme 1.4 sammy.
My Call of Duty 4 checked out fine in Mulleter (Autofix) and fine ss in Kreonchecker.
My Need for Speed Pro Street checked out fine in Mulleter but bad ss in Kreonchecker.
Am I right that it is no different, whether I play this Need for Speed (Bad SS) or Call of Duty 4 (good SS).
That means bad ss or good ss makes no difference ?
Different problem here!
Elite with Benq and VIA Sata controller
I've made de USB Boot with iPrep and using the XBOX to Power the Benq.
After booting from USB i've made the first Read and everything went fine.
Then after the second step it freezes when starting to write bank 0 and the green light on XBOX it's always blinking...
I waited a long time and nothing happened more.. now everytime i turn xbox ON.. it only blinks green power light and nothing more.
I can't even read firmware again..
QUOTE(Antman1 @ Dec 10 2007, 12:48 PM)
I Would say if it isnt locked up and you can quit it, I would eject the disc and quit the command prompt then try again. DO NOT POWER THE DRIVE OFF. Dont power that drive off till you fix it.
I left everything running for a while and came back to the computer.
The prompt had moved on and said "The drive is not restoring" or words to that effect and suggested 4 alternative reasons why it wasn't working and took me back to the command prompt.
The drive is now not visible in windows. I have not turned the power off on either my 360 or my PC.
The drive does not respond when I try to eject the drive.
What do you suggest?
Is there any harm in rebooting my PC using Slax to try to get the drive back into ModeB? I could then try to eject the disc and try to flash it again or will that not be possible?
QUOTE(xart @ Dec 10 2007, 01:14 AM)
If i wanted to use an Xbox 360 Samsung drive for backing up.
Is the following statement still true (an excerpt from the Textbook tutorial)?
NOTE! The iXtreme firmware does not have the ability to be recognized
in Windows with the 0800 disc and therefore cannot be used to backup
games. The only way to backup games with a Samsung drive is if it is
flashed with the xtrm0800 firmware (from the very first firmware release) or
with an Xtreme firmware and using the 0800 disc.
if it is still true, how do people use it as a backup drive?
it sounds unpractical to constantly alternate flash just to make a backup.
Is there any updated guideline for a backup using Samsung Drive?
Sorry if I missed such a guideline, most people refer to the textbook tutorial as the best source of reference.
I am also interested in this explanation. I just ordered a blaster360, and now I'm thinking i should not have.
QUOTE(psp099 @ Dec 10 2007, 04:54 PM)
I have a similar question.
I have iXtreme 1.4 sammy.
My Call of Duty 4 checked out fine in Mulleter (Autofix) and fine ss in Kreonchecker.
My Need for Speed Pro Street checked out fine in Mulleter but bad ss in Kreonchecker.
Am I right that it is no different, whether I play this Need for Speed (Bad SS) or Call of Duty 4 (good SS).
That means bad ss or good ss makes no difference ?
Someone can tell me please ??
QUOTE(gust @ Dec 10 2007, 10:30 AM)
Anyone?
I know for many might sound stupid but please if someone know answer this!
Thanks
Yes you are fine. The v1.4 FW is just a extra safeguard. See page 1 of this post where Iriez answers this word for word when someone else asked!
QUOTE(Lipe @ Dec 10 2007, 03:04 PM)
.. now everytime i turn xbox ON.. it only blinks green power light and nothing more.
Anyone!! please!
QUOTE(gerzand @ Dec 10 2007, 05:39 PM)
Yes you are fine. The v1.4 FW is just a extra safeguard. See page 1 of this post where Iriez answers this word for word when someone else asked!
Thank you very much!
Appreciate it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Lipe,
I had this problem yesterday using Sammy and dosflash while upgrading to 1.4. It just froze at writing bank 0 not reading because I did not have to read. I already had the orig.bin just modified it and tried to upload it. I could not. My resolution was simple, I actually posted a question on xboxscene.
What you could try if you are using the 6421a sata card from rosewill, just try a different port. That seemed to work for me. It is blinking and can't open? Did you do an erase?
QUOTE(bug2 @ Dec 9 2007, 11:43 PM)
A: No.
B: No.
C: Older firmwares? Yes, non-jitter pre-ixtreme firmwares.
Hi Iriez, thanks for providing some useful information in this thread instead of the usual panic and rumour.
For interest's sake, could you please give some more details on how you know that information is definitely not being stored when playing backups offline?
There have been a few reports of people not being online (or even not using their 360) at the exact moment of the most recent ban. Apparently they only discovered the ban after going online later. I know these reports are uncommon and maybe untrustworthy, but they do suggest the possibility of the 360 storing information offline.
You do realize that you can grab whatever data you want from your HD right? Guy, its been looked into. Its very easy to determine.
As far as getting banned offline? If you like to listen to rubish, then feel free to keep the rumours alive. Its been explained how the banning works in many many ixtreme threads. Look them up.
QUOTE(ninjashoes @ Dec 10 2007, 02:46 AM)
I respectfully disagree
because you havent been banned doesent prove "information is not being stored", logically Microsoft would most likely log your system data with a trojan type program that comes with the latest Xbox Live update
lol? Wth do these people come from.
CONSPIRACY THEORY #8430 - THE RED TOOTHED WALRUS LOST HIS BUCKET BECAUSE NINJA FEDERALI'S HAVE CAPTURED IT.
QUOTE(mr_dimsum @ Dec 10 2007, 08:26 AM)
Apparently, iXtreme 1.4 will be released for Hitachi 78/79 drives 'shortly'.. A realistic ETA for this would probably be.. Early January I suppose?.. Since it will require the Firmware Toolbox to be updated?
If any more experienced members more aware of ETA's for 78/79 releases after firmware releases for other drives can spread their knowledge, much appreciated.
I'm in no rush to get anything done, as my Maximus 79 Passkey is still on its way here through the mail, but just wanted to know if it'll be worthwhile of doing a 2-step approach and temporarily popping in iXtreme 1.2 and pulling the ethernet plug off (I don't play Live much) and than updating when the time needs be, or just hold a stakeout until the release.
If the likelihood is that it's going to be out within a week, than I'd totally just give it a wait.
So if someone knows any general ETA based on their knowledge from previous releases, everything is much appreciate in regards to your input.
Cheers
Should be out today.
QUOTE(psp099 @ Dec 10 2007, 03:54 PM)
I have a similar question.
I have iXtreme 1.4 sammy.
My Call of Duty 4 checked out fine in Mulleter (Autofix) and fine ss in Kreonchecker.
My Need for Speed Pro Street checked out fine in Mulleter but bad ss in Kreonchecker.
Am I right that it is no different, whether I play this Need for Speed (Bad SS) or Call of Duty 4 (good SS).
That means bad ss or good ss makes no difference ?
anyone know this ?
please tell me!
QUOTE(danooch13 @ Dec 10 2007, 03:59 PM)
Lipe,
I had this problem yesterday using Sammy and dosflash while upgrading to 1.4. It just froze at writing bank 0 not reading because I did not have to read. I already had the orig.bin just modified it and tried to upload it. I could not. My resolution was simple, I actually posted a question on xboxscene.
What you could try if you are using the 6421a sata card from rosewill, just try a different port. That seemed to work for me. It is blinking and can't open? Did you do an erase?
I've plugged the AV cable, and now i get 1 RED light and the code E65! It's a DVD Error code.. probably because it's "firmware empty"
My guess is: The program read the original FW, then it was erased.. and it freezes before writing the new one! And now.. the drive doesn't have any FW!
The doubt is: How can I write it back?
QUOTE(Lipe @ Dec 10 2007, 10:04 AM)
Different problem here!
Elite with Benq and VIA Sata controller
I've made de USB Boot with iPrep and using the XBOX to Power the Benq.
After booting from USB i've made the first Read and everything went fine.
Then after the second step it freezes when starting to write bank 0 and the green light on XBOX it's always blinking...
I waited a long time and nothing happened more.. now everytime i turn xbox ON.. it only blinks green power light and nothing more.
I can't even read firmware again..
I had this issue when i did not disable onboard IDE.
QUOTE(dbldown768 @ Dec 10 2007, 10:24 AM)
I am also interested in this explanation. I just ordered a blaster360, and now I'm thinking i should not have.
You have *always* required a different firmware for ripping. People who rip with their samsung have to flash the drive with the inquiry version, or older 5.x series, in order to rip.
And people, if you talk about downloading games, i WILL delete your post.
If you ask about 'is this or that safe, speed, kreon, etc' i will NOT answer that question, instead, YOU need to read this thread, because its been answered 10 times already.
Ok i have one hell of a problem made the move from xbox to 360 and i am lost with all this firmware stuff
my box has a benq and i know how to flash it but what do i use to backup my precious halo 3
1. one of the kreon fashed drives
2. a samsung ms25 or ms28 from ebay (with XBOX 360 Connectivity Kit v2)
3.wxripper on any old drive
i was thinking about a samsung ms25 or ms28 but what firmware do i use for backingUp
Iriez, thanks for the clarification. Ok, so it seems like i have a couple of choices in order to use a samsung drive for backups.
1) would be to reflash my current drive everytime to an old firmware and then use the 0800 disc. I can do this flashing with the new blaster360 i ordered instead of cracking everything open again and again.
2) i am assuming i can purchase either a new or remanufactured ms25 or ms28 drive and use that drive only for ripping ( just like the kreon drive that i have was originally).
I have a question about option 2. My pc does not have any SATA power cables in it. I do have a SATA Via for the drive, however i have to always use the 360 for power. What types of options would i have to power this drive?
EDIT: looks like i can use (with XBOX 360 Connectivity Kit v2) to do this..
I will have the blaster unless i cancel the order seeing as i might not need that anymore? I cant imagine that people choose option 1 very often, as multiple reflashes can eventually lead to breaking the drive at some point - or at least increase the chances.
This post has been edited by dbldown768: Dec 10 2007, 06:01 PM
Hey i would like to say thanks very much i also have some questions.
ok i dont own any copied games ie. backups but i do like the sound of the drive speed hack now this is where am abit stumped i have flashed the drive everything works ok on the flashing side but the restore well doesnt it gets to the checking restored firmware and closes so i used the 1.2 firmware restore and worked fine.
here is the question is it illegal for me to mod my firware as long as i dont play backups.
as i thougth when you purchas something it gives you the right to do as you please aslong as you dont distribute it to the public.
or use it to hack xbox live as iam cleary not doing this could i get banned?
Hey i would like to say thanks very much i also have some questions.
ok i dont own any copied games ie. backups but i do like the sound of the drive speed hack now this is where am abit stumped i have flashed the drive everything works ok on the flashing side but the restore well doesnt it gets to the checking restored firmware and closes so i used the 1.2 firmware restore and worked fine.
here is the question is it illegal for me to mod my firware as long as i dont play backups.
as i thougth when you purchas something it gives you the right to do as you please aslong as you dont distribute it to the public.
or use it to hack xbox live as iam cleary not doing this could i get banned?
oh yeah i have a Hitachi-LG v46
This post has been edited by rocky5: Dec 10 2007, 06:10 PM
Cant you just use kreon checker to make sure there are no bad kreon rips or do you need this firnware upgrade even though all back ups are ixtreme compatable and have good kreon rips?
QUOTE(rocky5 @ Dec 10 2007, 06:08 PM)
Hey i would like to say thanks very much i also have some questions.
ok i dont own any copied games ie. backups but i do like the sound of the drive speed hack now this is where am abit stumped i have flashed the drive everything works ok on the flashing side but the restore well doesnt it gets to the checking restored firmware and closes so i used the 1.2 firmware restore and worked fine.
here is the question is it illegal for me to mod my firware as long as i dont play backups.
as i thougth when you purchas something it gives you the right to do as you please aslong as you dont distribute it to the public.
or use it to hack xbox live as iam cleary not doing this could i get banned?
Hey i would like to say thanks very much i also have some questions.
ok i dont own any copied games ie. backups but i do like the sound of the drive speed hack now this is where am abit stumped i have flashed the drive everything works ok on the flashing side but the restore well doesnt it gets to the checking restored firmware and closes so i used the 1.2 firmware restore and worked fine.
here is the question is it illegal for me to mod my firware as long as i dont play backups.
as i thougth when you purchas something it gives you the right to do as you please aslong as you dont distribute it to the public.
or use it to hack xbox live as iam cleary not doing this could i get banned?
oh yeah i have a Hitachi-LG v46
Legality wise I don't think it's illegal to mod your firmware no matter what you do, but you would violated the TOS of XBL if you connect with modded firmware, and if they figure out you have modded firmware they might terminate your service.
ok thanks thats all i needed to hear.
QUOTE(martsmall @ Dec 10 2007, 01:10 PM)
anti competitive behaviour is also against the law but that dont stop microsoft does it
It's only illegal if you get caught.
Just incase anyone was wondering or might indeed have had the same problem that I had.
I turned off both the 360 and the PC and used the slax disc. I managed to get the drive back into ModeB and ran the restore, this time without the disc in the drive and it worked fine. I then successfully flashed the new firmware and I've tested the drive with an original game disc.
I think having a disc in the drive was a big mistake although my interpretation of a tutorial was that I needed to have one in the drive. Never mind, all's well that ends well.
hi all
I have the problem with checking bad ss . i check my all ss on kreon cheker and all is good :]
pls send/link me bad ss(kreon checker) and I will check if I am right.
regards off
This post has been edited by offtopic: Dec 10 2007, 07:28 PM
Hello! I just got a 360 with the BenQ and want to do this firmware h4x. I know how to open the 360 and have a 1GB usb stick and a VIA sata pci card. I have a couple of questions. I can't seem to get the firmware from xbins. Anywhere else? And, are there any easy tutorials I could follow? Any help would be greatly appreciated, feel free to PM me. Thanks!
Excellent....worked a charm on hitach 46d
QUOTE(psp099 @ Dec 10 2007, 03:54 PM)
I have a similar question.
I have iXtreme 1.4 sammy.
My Call of Duty 4 checked out fine in Mulleter (Autofix) and fine ss in Kreonchecker.
My Need for Speed Pro Street checked out fine in Mulleter but bad ss in Kreonchecker.
Am I right that it is no different, whether I play this Need for Speed (Bad SS) or Call of Duty 4 (good SS).
That means bad ss or good ss makes no difference ?
Yes it doesnt matter if you have a bad ss or good ss with ixtreme 1.4
This post has been edited by sebek1: Dec 10 2007, 08:02 PM
QUOTE(ninjashoes @ Dec 9 2007, 11:46 PM)
I respectfully disagree
because you havent been banned doesent prove "information is not being stored", logically Microsoft would most likely log your system data with a trojan type program that comes with the latest Xbox Live update
Because I HAVE been banned is why I can tell you information is not being stored.....look I was banned because of a recent game that came out that I couldn't resist but that is not important I had old firmware that wasn't stealth and was detected very easily..what I can tell you is that I had been playing backups off line for about 9 months and only played online with originals d/l demos and was ok. ONLY when I went online with unstealth firmware and a backup was I banned so that proves to me that they are only detecting backups that are either bad or played with old unstealth firmware and any information on the hard drive can be retrieved on the pc and would of been found by geniuses like c4eva or someone like me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 10 2007, 08:01 PM)
Because I HAVE been banned is why I can tell you information is not being stored.....look I was banned because of a recent game that came out that I couldn't resist but that is not important I had old firmware that wasn't stealth and was detected very easily..what I can tell you is that I had been playing backups off line for about 9 months and only played online with originals d/l demos and was ok. ONLY when I went online with unstealth firmware and a backup was I banned so that proves to me that they are only detecting backups that are either bad or played with old unstealth firmware and any information on the hard drive can be retrieved on the pc and would of been found by geniuses like c4eva or someone like me (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I don't think your run-on anecdote proves anything, although it does strongly build a case that 360s are not currently banned for running backups offline. However, until we see conclusive evidence that a flag or other relevant information is not stored in the 360s internal memory, we shouldn't discredit this theory.... just like we shouldn't discredit that the Kreon firmware will always work as is. On the other hand, such evidence may exist; if it does, few of us are aware of it.
This post has been edited by Nailed: Dec 10 2007, 10:05 PM
Anyone getting the white "insert disc into a 360" screen after flashing? I'm about to try reflashing but wanted to find out if I screwed up first. Never had this before and I've flashed the same box probably at least 5 times.
LINK: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...=0#entry4173526
discussion on how make/buy an MS28 external enclosure to make backups or 360 game images with XBC2.7/schrotom3.4 and retire KREON drives: appropiate topic for today no doubt, since it been asked several times in this entire thread...
or this link:
MS28 external power enclosure
QUOTE(magichew @ Dec 10 2007, 07:11 PM)
Just incase anyone was wondering or might indeed have had the same problem that I had.
I turned off both the 360 and the PC and used the slax disc. I managed to get the drive back into ModeB and ran the restore, this time without the disc in the drive and it worked fine. I then successfully flashed the new firmware and I've tested the drive with an original game disc.
I think having a disc in the drive was a big mistake although my interpretation of a tutorial was that I needed to have one in the drive. Never mind, all's well that ends well.
The disc in the drive is only for Hitachi v78/79. 79 I am not to sure anything LOWER than v78 do not have a game disc inside
Gr8 work C4 as usual
QUOTE(cardboardbox @ Dec 10 2007, 04:11 PM)
Anyone getting the white "insert disc into a 360" screen after flashing? I'm about to try reflashing but wanted to find out if I screwed up first. Never had this before and I've flashed the same box probably at least 5 times.
Is it a BenQ? I had the same problem...'til I found out that the batch file wasn't inserting the key from orig.bin. I ended up having to insert the key manually and then flashing.
QUOTE(ca102455 @ Dec 10 2007, 11:37 AM)
But the 360 acts this way also, it doesn't always read at 12x does it, it also spins up faster when a faster data load is required so its not always thrashing hard at 12x. I agree reading at slower speeds means more accurate reading from disk but does forcing it to run slower than stock really prolong its life when the stock speed is anything up to 12x?
Example - if running at 8x doesn't the drive have to spin for longer to load the data required where as running at 12x means a faster loading time therefore creating less work on the drive over all ?
Perhaps Iriez or someone in the know could give some
expert technical advice on the subject
Way to discredit my technical abilities. I have been working with computers for nearly 15 years now. I think that constitutes enough knowledge to make comments on speed.
You are correct as in not every piece of information is read at 12x from the DVD, however the drive constantly spins up to 12x when it is completely unnecessary. Some games may need 12x (not conclusive) like Mass Effect constant streaming, you may get the odd issue in Oblivion with bad media. However the effect on load times is not significant enough to damage. It will reduce the load on the 360 drive overall and heat generating, including a reduction of dB.
Trust me having a turbo jet in the 360 is not essential to it's perfect operation.
QUOTE(Tranman @ Dec 10 2007, 11:44 PM)
Is it a BenQ? I had the same problem...'til I found out that the batch file wasn't inserting the key from orig.bin. I ended up having to insert the key manually and then flashing.
nah, its a Samsung. And this never happened before. Going to try flashing again and will report back.
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 10 2007, 09:01 PM)
Because I HAVE been banned is why I can tell you information is not being stored.....look I was banned because of a recent game that came out that I couldn't resist but that is not important I had old firmware that wasn't stealth and was detected very easily..what I can tell you is that I had been playing backups off line for about 9 months and only played online with originals d/l demos and was ok. ONLY when I went online with unstealth firmware and a backup was I banned so that proves to me that they are only detecting backups that are either bad or played with old unstealth firmware and any information on the hard drive can be retrieved on the pc and would of been found by geniuses like c4eva or someone like me
That's not really proof... it just doesn't disprove.
The reason it's not proof is that MS COULD be storing info on the HD, even keeping you on a list of people to ban whenever or later... it COULD just coincide with playing a backup online with no stealth.
Is it likely? I think not... combined with the fact that the people who could find out have already examined the contents of the HD and that that would be quite a coincidence indeed that you got banned from their list of "to be banned" on the day (I am assuming thats what you mean) you played your backup...
But it's not proof...
QUOTE(the soul poet @ Dec 10 2007, 02:50 PM)
Some games may need 12x (not conclusive) like Mass Effect constant streaming...
...Trust me having a turbo jet in the 360 is not essential to it's perfect operation.
I'm playing Mass Effect at 5x and have not had a single glitch yet, just slow loading.
MS$ IS NOT storing information on the hard drive when you play backups off-line. This has been PROVEN. People have imaged their drives, played backup copies offline, then imaged the drive again. Next they did a "diff" to find out what changed. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING changed in respect to reporting the backup! This has been tested since day 1 of the firmware hack, by multiple parties, and is part of the "let's see what MS$ is doing" check that the f/w hackers perform each time MS$ drops the ban hammer...
Wasting time spreading fear about playing backups offline is pointless!
For the last time, the real problem is the definition of the word "offline". Some people, mainly n00bs, think they are "offline" if the game doesn't support Live, or they don't click the "Live" menu option in the game. In fact, you are only truly "offline" if you unplug your ethernet cable!
This post has been edited by feflicker: Dec 11 2007, 12:29 AM
<FFA77> hey so im goign to replace my kreon, so just need to get a ms28 and the connectivity kit and i shoudl good to go?
<M0mD4d> yes
<FFA77> thx
<M0mD4d> but kreon isn't bad... the whole 6701 thing was debunked yesterday
<M0mD4d> and we're all regretting that the news about that theory got out public in the first place
<FFA77> oh REALLY?
<FFA77> got a link?
<M0mD4d> 360 samsung drive was also found to return that same value on some of the newer games
<M0mD4d> and a LOT of testing since then
<M0mD4d> no link, this is all just internal testing amongst a group of us
<M0mD4d> so I wouldn't go trashing your kreon in favour of a ms25/28 just yet
<FFA77> oh, so then nobody knows the problem then?
<M0mD4d> right
<M0mD4d> still 100% uncertain
<M0mD4d> which sucks, but at least the kreon 67 was ruled out
<M0mD4d> we're still waiting for a new kreon fw with his jitter removed so that we can do more tests/comparisons
<M0mD4d> but so far, kreon returns values that are all within acceptable range
<M0mD4d> it's highly possible that the bans were because of the fw
<M0mD4d> and not wrapping that 360 value back to 0
<FFA77> oh, then why was it that the kreon drive returning higher angle numbers?
<M0mD4d> it's returning values with much more variance because kreon hardcoded them in the fw and then does his own jitter on it
<M0mD4d> we're not 100% sure why he hardcoded the values (it may be either he couldn' figure out how to get them properly or was just easier to hardcode or it may even be a hardware limitation with the kreon drives
<M0mD4d> but even still, the values are all within range
<FFA77> i thought the newer games had more variance or soemhting
<M0mD4d> it was Xtreme and <1.4 iXtreme's bug that was jittering the 6701->6801 (359->360)
<M0mD4d> and that jitter +1 only happens sometimes... which makes it possible that why some people got banned, while others that played the same game didn't
<M0mD4d> c4eva thought that the 67 wasn't returned at all for new games
<M0mD4d> but that was before 10000's of SS extractions/tests
<M0mD4d> and finding that the 360 sam also does
<M0mD4d> though less frequently
<M0mD4d> it was irresponsible that the news was even let out before real tests were done
<FFA77> oh ok -- what happened to the bad game image theory though, why the switch to this Kreon stuff now
<M0mD4d> because everyone of course got into a panic and blaming and wanting to toss their kreon's etc
<M0mD4d> the bad game data crc you mean?
<FFA77> yeah
<M0mD4d> it's still a possibility
<M0mD4d> but then again, a lot of people are still playing the ones that are bad and not banned
<M0mD4d> the 6801(360) thing being intermittent seems much more likely
<M0mD4d> and even that's still just an idea
<M0mD4d> it's just a mess right now to be honest
<M0mD4d> lots of theories and no solid proof :S
im confused
QUOTE(Logi7 @ Dec 10 2007, 11:31 PM)
<FFA77> hey so im goign to replace my kreon, so just need to get a ms28 and the connectivity kit and i shoudl good to go?
<M0mD4d> yes
<FFA77> thx
<M0mD4d> but kreon isn't bad... the whole 6701 thing was debunked yesterday
<M0mD4d> and we're all regretting that the news about that theory got out public in the first place
....
What the deuce !
This is no way meant as disrespect to C4E or anyone else involved from the scene, but I have to hand it to MS on this one... they are doing a helluva job on their end.
I mean if they can't stop everyone from modding their drives, this has got to be the next best thing for them... it's like those fake car alarm lights, they will scare off those who can be scared off, and those who can't, you weren't gonna stop them with a real one anyway...
Hat's off to MS on playing the game well...
Now, here's hoping C4E or someone stuffs it to them in the next round
BTW how is this not on the front page? 
Can someone post the MD5 for the iXtreme 1.4 firmware pack? xbins is down or unaccessible so I have it from another resource and want to double check.
^xbins is working fine.
QUOTE(sabbath_dude @ Dec 11 2007, 01:33 AM)
^xbins is working fine.
ok, well everytime for the past few days I have tried to go, there is no channel there. Maybe just me. Still could someone post the MD5 for ixtreme_1.4_all_versions.rar ? Thanks.
nm, its working fine more me now.
in reply to the long chat quote above; i truely belive that the only reason some people get banned and some people don't is because microsoft bans in waves, so it's not 100% safe to say that because some people didn't get banned while playing the same game that got others banned that the bad CRC theory is invalid. They might have not been banned because they were the ones lucky enough to survive the ban wave. If ms banned everyone playing with a backup instantly then that would make it REALLY easy to determine the method of detection. (also they would end up with nothing but a couple of 10 year old kids, girls and the xbox live team on xbox live... which doesn't sound very bad 
)
QUOTE(Tranman @ Dec 10 2007, 05:44 PM)
Is it a BenQ? I had the same problem...'til I found out that the batch file wasn't inserting the key from orig.bin. I ended up having to insert the key manually and then flashing.
I'm having the same problem with my Samsung. I don't have orig.bin so I couldn't do dSam but I did fSam and it said the process complete but I get the white screen. I just tried it with a real 360 game and the same thing happened, any ideas?
EDIT: I've tried it with real Xbox and Xbox 360 games and I always get the white screen, what does this mean?
This post has been edited by B-Fir3: Dec 11 2007, 01:51 AM
The weakest link in this chain is obviously the KREON firmware and its virtually certain that MS has been doing extensive emulation debugging of its native routines to identify ripping annomolies (THAT's EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD DO)...this time we found a bug perhaps before they exploited it...this time the SS's integrity was in question...next time it may be another KREON emulation issue or PFI/DMI integrity..only KREON knows his native emulation routines...and he has stated publically that some of his coding efforts are pure speculation on his part...as one would expect with software emulation...
but one thing is certain and beyond any doubt: THE NEWER GAMES ARE BEING PRESSED AT THE FACTORIES DIFEFRENTLY since HALO3 appeared on the scene...why?
you do NOT have to be a technical genius to understand what MS is doing here.
MS has probably known for a lVERY VERY long time that simply changing slightly the way the games are pressed may be sufficient to compromise the emulation routines that KREON hardcoded into his DVD firmware...and if such a discpancy is identified by MS they can have absolute certainty that ixtreme will NOT be able to properly spoof or protect against this 'marking" strategy The Star Trek Legacy game problem showed us an expample of such a change last year.
By the time we identify the problem it may already too late since their data loggers are live and constantly keeping track of our game play..
I concluded long ago that MS's best efforst to thwart piracy is to strickly focus on the integrity of the KREON rips...to go after Ixterem instead is like putting the "cart before the horse"..you must go after the image's integrity NOT the software that spoofs or protects it (i.e ixtereme).
that is lesson #1 in anti-piracy technique that DirecTV and Dishnwork have been using for years to thwart their emulation piracy problem in the U.S.
Is c4eva considering updating or creating a special "ripping" Ixtreme v1.4 to include native game ripping with an exteranal MS28 and the 0800.iso ENABLER disk....or does already include it?[/b]
I thought he removed that function in the ixteremes ealier this year...and I am uncertain using his older extremes v4.2-5.3 is any better than using KREON v1.00....
this has NOT been clearly discussed lately....and should be NOW...
right now we have to use older extrem 4.2-5.3 to do these rips with that 0800 enabler DVD...if we want to make pure rips using an OEM MS25/28 drive.
I am not trying to bash KREON (his work is excellent) but he is the weakest link in the chain and I feel more comfortable moving forward retiring KREON and ONLY using C4eve's software in a native OEM MS28 to do these rips..especially with the newer games since Halo3, but we need an updated Ixtreme to do this
right?
was going to update today but came home from work and had a big fat ban so the waves still coming
QUOTE(TIME2PLAYDAGAME @ Dec 10 2007, 04:29 AM)
So im guessing the 2 sectors that failed during the restoring of the orig.bin mean nothing as long as it reads 100% at the end & all flashed 100%? Everything is working fine, its quiet(8x) and origionals & backups work. I have a copy of the "real" orig.bin with key incase this means anything. This was an upgrade from 1.2 rev2 sense fix.
*NOTE* I did use a banned system(MS25) to power the system/drive if that makes any difference for the 2 failed sectors?
Im quoting myself b/c i just restored & reflashed again, this time using the updated .bat's. Everything went through 100% (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Thanks for everyone's hard work!
QUOTE(debasturd @ Dec 10 2007, 08:18 PM)
was going to update today but came home from work and had a big fat ban so the waves still coming
So you survived the ban a couple of weeks back, but just got banned today? Uh-Oh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
QUOTE(cardboardbox @ Dec 10 2007, 10:11 PM)
Anyone getting the white "insert disc into a 360" screen after flashing? I'm about to try reflashing but wanted to find out if I screwed up first. Never had this before and I've flashed the same box probably at least 5 times.
used firmtool instead of the script and then flashed and it worked. Not sure if the script was bad or if I did something stupid the first time. Good enough for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I wish people would drop this whole waves issue.
Logic is simple in my opinion. Bannings started last May. Since then this issue has kept happening. With todays fw and usually stealth images it's being the Jitter that is mainly getting people.
Simple fact no bannings before May. M$ introduce jitter. xtreme 5.3 released but jitter not perfect. kreon also had jitter and lots of images in the wild weren't stealth anyway.
Bannings in May. Lots of users scared. Ixtreme fw is released. We pretty much lock down most of security no more mass bans. M$ change something on later discs (timing change). More bannings, now you see the logic?
Jitter = bans.
Change of C/R range = bans.
Ixtreme and Kreon did not account for changes, although kreon rips currently are within acceptable ranges as below.
With the fw not correctly wrapping this could produce 360 instead of 0>359.
For those saying why can Microsoft not produce a game with 360 accepted. well its Hexadecimal so the range is 0>359 so it is 360 ranges but always start from 0.
Obviously if anyone is using older firmwares you can be banned anyway but I do believe Microsoft don't always ban based on one check alone. Say wrong stealth + jitter more likely. But obviously 1 or the other done repeatably can cause a ban (data is requested multiple times anyway).
You also have to think clearly. Live is a very big network. There are multiple live servers not just one.
Say your flagged, now your connected to one server you get disconnected, you may get back on. There are networks that work the same way across the world. Your console ID would need to be sent around the M$ netwrok to each live server to add you to the blacklisted group. So when your Xbox tries to do the handshake live says no.
This takes time, could be hours/days/weeks. Remember if any server is down for maintenence and comes back up you have a chance of that not banning you yet.
Jitter is a lottery, always remember (fixed in 1.4)
This post has been edited by the soul poet: Dec 11 2007, 03:21 AM
QUOTE(staple123 @ Dec 10 2007, 04:59 PM)
The weakest link in this chain is obviously the KREON firmware and its virtually certain that MS has been doing extensive emulation debugging of its native routines to identify ripping annomolies
ffs More theories, more garbage..
All anyone has to do is a bit of research to discover how reactionary and counterproductive theories like this one are.
The bug was in iXtreme pre 1.4 NOT in the Kreon firmware! Kreon rips are within acceptable boundaries, you would know that if you read this post in this thread! and spent any time in #stealth360 or #fw asking questions.
There is nothing currently to state that Kreon rips are bad except bad information, how many people need to say it?! Once Kreon makes his firmware available without jitter there will be more testing. Nothing is 100% certain, except getting people all wound-up over bs theories is just plain silly.
here are some highlights:
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<M0mD4d> but kreon isn't bad... the whole 6701 thing was debunked yesterday
<M0mD4d> and we're all regretting that the news about that theory got out public in the first place
QUOTE
<M0mD4d> it was Xtreme and <1.4 iXtreme's bug that was jittering the 6701->6801 (359->360)
<M0mD4d> and that jitter +1 only happens sometimes... which makes it possible that why some people got banned, while others that played the same game didn't
Stop promoting bad theories that have no basis! Don't be silly and throw away your Kreon drive! Use your heads!
my only question with all these 0 - 360 limits with the firmware is, what if i rip a game using Kreon and get the dec number of 359 and then the 1.4 fw adds 1 to this number, equalling 360? Since there is no way that "i know of? to tell exactly what value i received, I'm assuming this is a very bad scenerio, but possible? Or does the firmware only wrap 360 back to 0? or maybe add 1 from the range of 0 - 358? or maybe this answer doesn't need to be made pubic...
This post has been edited by dbldown768: Dec 11 2007, 04:03 AM
QUOTE(dbldown768 @ Dec 10 2007, 07:01 PM)
my only question with all these 0 - 360 limits with the firmware is, what if i rip a game using Kreon and get the dec number of 359 and then the 1.4 fw adds 1 to this number, equalling 360? Since there is no way that "i know of? to tell exactly what value i received, I'm assuming this is a very bad scenerio, but possible? Or does the firmware only wrap 360 back to 0? or maybe add 1 from the range of 0 - 358? or maybe this answer doesn't need to be made pubic...
That was the purpose of iX 1.4.
0-360 is now 0-359. So 359+1 = 0 in 1.4 where 359+1 = 360 in <= 1.3
Any news on the 78fk version
I flashed my BenQ with 1.4 iXtreme 8x speed, I had 1.1 x5 iX installed before that. 1.1 worked perfectly fine, no issues. But now with 8x 1.4 i get disc read errors when playing Cod4, the "Clean Your Disc Clean" error message or something like it and Cod4 shuts down to dashboard. It works for a while, but ends always the same way, most of the time when a map is loading in MP. I use verbatim, burn at x2.4 speeds, and all discs are in perfect shape. No issues before? Should I go back to ix 1.1 x5, or should I use ix 1.4 x5 and not x8??? Thx for any help in advance.
BTW, all guys working on these FW´s and Tools, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!
QUOTE(dbldown768 @ Dec 10 2007, 11:56 AM)
Iriez, thanks for the clarification. Ok, so it seems like i have a couple of choices in order to use a samsung drive for backups.
1) would be to reflash my current drive everytime to an old firmware and then use the 0800 disc. I can do this flashing with the new blaster360 i ordered instead of cracking everything open again and again.
2) i am assuming i can purchase either a new or remanufactured ms25 or ms28 drive and use that drive only for ripping ( just like the kreon drive that i have was originally).
I have a question about option 2. My pc does not have any SATA power cables in it. I do have a SATA Via for the drive, however i have to always use the 360 for power. What types of options would i have to power this drive?
EDIT: looks like i can use (with XBOX 360 Connectivity Kit v2) to do this..
I will have the blaster unless i cancel the order seeing as i might not need that anymore? I cant imagine that people choose option 1 very often, as multiple reflashes can eventually lead to breaking the drive at some point - or at least increase the chances.
Keep your kreon...all that is needed is a new firmware with jitter removed.
QUOTE(staple123 @ Dec 10 2007, 04:14 PM)
LINK:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...=0#entry4173526discussion on how make/buy an MS28 external enclosure to make backups or 360 game images with XBC2.7/schrotom3.4 and retire KREON drives: appropiate topic for today no doubt, since it been asked several times in this entire thread...
or this link:
MS28 external power enclosure
Thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
QUOTE(the soul poet @ Dec 10 2007, 05:50 PM)
Way to discredit my technical abilities. I have been working with computers for nearly 15 years now. I think that constitutes enough knowledge to make comments on speed.
You are correct as in not every piece of information is read at 12x from the DVD, however the drive constantly spins up to 12x when it is completely unnecessary. Some games may need 12x (not conclusive) like Mass Effect constant streaming, you may get the odd issue in Oblivion with bad media. However the effect on load times is not significant enough to damage. It will reduce the load on the 360 drive overall and heat generating, including a reduction of dB.
Trust me having a turbo jet in the 360 is not essential to it's perfect operation.
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I would like everyone to please note this post. It is well within reason to answer any of the questions related to this topic.
QUOTE(feflicker @ Dec 10 2007, 06:27 PM)
MS$ IS NOT storing information on the hard drive when you play backups off-line. This has been PROVEN. People have imaged their drives, played backup copies offline, then imaged the drive again. Next they did a "diff" to find out what changed. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING changed in respect to reporting the backup! This has been tested since day 1 of the firmware hack, by multiple parties, and is part of the "let's see what MS$ is doing" check that the f/w hackers perform each time MS$ drops the ban hammer...
Wasting time spreading fear about playing backups offline is pointless!
For the last time, the real problem is the definition of the word "offline". Some people, mainly n00bs, think they are "offline" if the game doesn't support Live, or they don't click the "Live" menu option in the game. In fact, you are only truly "offline" if you unplug your ethernet cable!
This is also exactly what i was referring to earlier about the HD not changing. I apologize for not going into detail as feflicker has, and thank you feflicker for the explanation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Most of the posting time i get in the morning is 10 minutes while im taking a crap before work. Which usually allows me to skim the thread and nothing more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
QUOTE(Logi7 @ Dec 10 2007, 06:31 PM)
<FFA77> hey so im goign to replace my kreon, so just need to get a ms28 and the connectivity kit and i shoudl good to go?
<M0mD4d> yes
<FFA77> thx
<M0mD4d> but kreon isn't bad... the whole 6701 thing was debunked yesterday
<M0mD4d> and we're all regretting that the news about that theory got out public in the first place
<FFA77> oh REALLY?
<FFA77> got a link?
<M0mD4d> 360 samsung drive was also found to return that same value on some of the newer games
<M0mD4d> and a LOT of testing since then
<M0mD4d> no link, this is all just internal testing amongst a group of us
<M0mD4d> so I wouldn't go trashing your kreon in favour of a ms25/28 just yet
<FFA77> oh, so then nobody knows the problem then?
<M0mD4d> right
<M0mD4d> still 100% uncertain
<M0mD4d> which sucks, but at least the kreon 67 was ruled out
<M0mD4d> we're still waiting for a new kreon fw with his jitter removed so that we can do more tests/comparisons
<M0mD4d> but so far, kreon returns values that are all within acceptable range
<M0mD4d> it's highly possible that the bans were because of the fw
<M0mD4d> and not wrapping that 360 value back to 0
<FFA77> oh, then why was it that the kreon drive returning higher angle numbers?
<M0mD4d> it's returning values with much more variance because kreon hardcoded them in the fw and then does his own jitter on it
<M0mD4d> we're not 100% sure why he hardcoded the values (it may be either he couldn' figure out how to get them properly or was just easier to hardcode or it may even be a hardware limitation with the kreon drives
<M0mD4d> but even still, the values are all within range
<FFA77> i thought the newer games had more variance or soemhting
<M0mD4d> it was Xtreme and <1.4 iXtreme's bug that was jittering the 6701->6801 (359->360)
<M0mD4d> and that jitter +1 only happens sometimes... which makes it possible that why some people got banned, while others that played the same game didn't
<M0mD4d> c4eva thought that the 67 wasn't returned at all for new games
<M0mD4d> but that was before 10000's of SS extractions/tests
<M0mD4d> and finding that the 360 sam also does
<M0mD4d> though less frequently
<M0mD4d> it was irresponsible that the news was even let out before real tests were done
<FFA77> oh ok -- what happened to the bad game image theory though, why the switch to this Kreon stuff now
<M0mD4d> because everyone of course got into a panic and blaming and wanting to toss their kreon's etc
<M0mD4d> the bad game data crc you mean?
<FFA77> yeah
<M0mD4d> it's still a possibility
<M0mD4d> but then again, a lot of people are still playing the ones that are bad and not banned
<M0mD4d> the 6801(360) thing being intermittent seems much more likely
<M0mD4d> and even that's still just an idea
<M0mD4d> it's just a mess right now to be honest
<M0mD4d> lots of theories and no solid proof :S
im confused
Yes, this is true. We have known this is true. We at first thought kreon might be 'bad' but since then we have only realized that the hardcoded timing replies that the kreon firmware 'emulates' is more suspectable to give back 6701, which, with ixtreme 1.3 or previous can give you 360 degree's.
Now, given that, at its current state kreon is STILL much less accurate at extracting the SS with proper timings. The samsung has a 0.1% chance at ripping a 6701 (yes, thats a real statistic). The kreon has about a 40-60% chance of returning 6701. So, short story, stick with samsung until kreon can fix it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) We still have to think about the thousands of pepole running > 1.4 ixtreme.
QUOTE(staple123 @ Dec 10 2007, 07:59 PM)
The weakest link in this chain is obviously the KREON firmware and its virtually certain that MS has been doing extensive emulation debugging of its native routines to identify ripping annomolies (THAT's EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD DO)...this time we found a bug perhaps before they exploited it...this time the SS's integrity was in question...next time it may be another KREON emulation issue or PFI/DMI integrity..only KREON knows his native emulation routines...and he has stated publically that some of his coding efforts are pure speculation on his part...as one would expect with software emulation...
but one thing is certain and beyond any doubt: THE NEWER GAMES ARE BEING PRESSED AT THE FACTORIES DIFEFRENTLY since HALO3 appeared on the scene...why?
you do NOT have to be a technical genius to understand what MS is doing here.
MS has probably known for a lVERY VERY long time that simply changing slightly the way the games are pressed may be sufficient to compromise the emulation routines that KREON hardcoded into his DVD firmware...and if such a discpancy is identified by MS they can have absolute certainty that ixtreme will NOT be able to properly spoof or protect against this 'marking" strategy The Star Trek Legacy game problem showed us an expample of such a change last year.
By the time we identify the problem it may already too late since their data loggers are live and constantly keeping track of our game play..
I concluded long ago that MS's best efforst to thwart piracy is to strickly focus on the integrity of the KREON rips...to go after Ixterem instead is like putting the "cart before the horse"..you must go after the image's integrity NOT the software that spoofs or protects it (i.e ixtereme).
that is lesson #1 in anti-piracy technique that DirecTV and Dishnwork have been using for years to thwart their emulation piracy problem in the U.S.
Is c4eva considering updating or creating a special "ripping" Ixtreme v1.4 to include native game ripping with an exteranal MS28 and the 0800.iso ENABLER disk....or does already include it?[/b]
I thought he removed that function in the ixteremes ealier this year...and I am uncertain using his older extremes v4.2-5.3 is any better than using KREON v1.00....
this has NOT been clearly discussed lately....and should be NOW...
right now we have to use older extrem 4.2-5.3 to do these rips with that 0800 enabler DVD...if we want to make pure rips using an OEM MS25/28 drive.
I am not trying to bash KREON (his work is excellent) but he is the weakest link in the chain and I feel more comfortable moving forward retiring KREON and ONLY using C4eve's software in a native OEM MS28 to do these rips..especially with the newer games since Halo3, but we need an updated Ixtreme to do this
right?
Yes, the majority of that was correct. I have, and will continue, to discuss a ripping option with c4e for benq firmwares. redline99 was working on it, but it can take quite some time ; )
And just so you know, the 6701 returns USED to be very common. At one point, it was changed so that it no longer became common. So far, the best we've been able to narrow down that to is around forza 2 release (7 months ago). Its a very large project, and we may never narrow down the exact release that they started altering their c/r timings.
There was a 'inquiry' version of ixtreme 1.2...since then there has not been a ripping software.
QUOTE(bonsc2 @ Dec 10 2007, 10:20 PM)
Any news on the 78fk version
Maximus said it would be out today at noon. Looks like he dropped the ball. Lets hope for tomorrow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Iriez? You got any good advice to my previous post?? The one before youre last post?! Would be appreciated!
I burned Call Of Duty 4 on a Samsung W163A Burner and the game worked flawlessly on both my Hitachi 360 and my Elite with BenQ with ix 1.1 x5 speed? But I now have a Pioneer 212 burner, do you think if I burned Cod4 again with the Pioneer burner the game would work better and stop giving me the "Clean Disk With Cloth" message on x8 ix 1.4?? Hope you understand me? Thx.
Ps. Its such a job for me to flash, I dont have enough pci slots so I need to remove my X-FI so I can fit the Via Pci card, and so on. So I would really be happy If I wouldnt have to flash again?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
This post has been edited by AsssKisser666: Dec 11 2007, 05:43 AM
QUOTE(AsssKisser666 @ Dec 10 2007, 11:42 PM)
Iriez? You got any good advice to my previous post?? The one before youre last post?! Would be appreciated!
I burned Call Of Duty 4 on a Samsung W163A Burner and the game worked flawlessly on both my Hitachi 360 and my Elite with BenQ with ix 1.1 x5 speed? But I now have a Pioneer 212 burner, do you think if I burned Cod4 again with the Pioneer burner the game would work better and stop giving me the "Clean Disk With Cloth" message on x8 ix 1.4?? Hope you understand me? Thx.
Ps. Its such a job for me to flash, I dont have enough pci slots so I need to remove my X-FI so I can fit the Via Pci card, and so on. So I would really be happy If I wouldnt have to flash again?! (IMG:
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Yes, this is entirely burner/media/lens related. A pioneer with verbatim works MUCH better.
Im still confused about the bad CRC games
so people have been banned that have played only games theyve ripped themselves?
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 11 2007, 05:57 AM)
Yes, this is entirely burner/media/lens related. A pioneer with verbatim works MUCH better.
Ok, thx!! Much appreciated. I will test burning it with my Pioneer. I´ll report back with some results tomorrow! Thx again.
Iriez so what you are saying is that a new firmware is needed for the kreon drive to remove jitter??
Should we hold off backing up our games until a new firmware is released or is it still ok to use the current fw..
Also thanks feflicker for posting that info about the rumors of people being banned offline hopefully that will be the end of that and people can stop posting about it putting more fear into peoples minds that they can be logged for playing backups offline..
OK so I have been following this as much as I can and being a relative noob to the 360 modding scene I am sure I have a few gaps but I would appreciate if someone could confirm or correct me on what I percieve to be the situation:
1: Originally it was believed that Kreon drives were reading back 6701 (359) read angle measurements that an actual samsung drive would not due to some issue with the kreon firmware that differed from an actual MS drive.
2: The jitter correction in the ixtreme firmwares lower than 1.3 would cause such a value to be pushed up to 360 which is an impossible value (360 possible values for this measure with the first being 0 means you should never be able to get to 360).
3: Being able to detect this impossible happening could be used by MS as basis to ban you.
4: Apparently even the Samsungs are occasionally reading 359 which would again be bumped up to 360 by pre 1.4 ixtremes.
5: Ixtreme 1.4 changes how it handles jitter correction such that it can never have a value of 360 (if it encounters a 359 it wraps it back around to 0 instead of allowing 360)
6: At this point assuming all other stealth factors were accounted for, this new possible 360 issue has been resolved by the 1.4 Ixtreme and so as far as anyone knows there is nothing MS should be able to detect at the moment.
7: Current backups, even ones that may have had the 359 angle read in are still ok to use as long as you use ixtreme 1.4.
8: Current methods of ripping, including using the Kreon drives will still yield useable backups (assuming all other steath measures are taken) as long as Ixtreme 1.4 is used.
9: So in short, get Ixtereme 1.4 and you go back to being as safe as you thought you were with 1.3 before all this 359 read angle stuff got on the front page.
10: Even retail games might sometimes read back 359 and might then be bumped by ixtreme <1.3 to an inpossible 360 resulting in banning only playing retail copies.
11: To put it bluntly and wrap it up (and with no intended disprespect to c4e) this was more or less a case of counting in real numbers instead of computer numbers where you start with 1 instead of 0 when writing this part of the firmware (ie writing a random character generator that chooses an ASCII value between 1 and 128 thinking you will randomly draw from all the possible base ASCII characters but instead never getting the first one which is value 0 and sometimes drawing an extended character which is past the first 128 values).
Is any of that wrong? Please let me know if I missed something there...
Lastly I am still not sure on one thing... does the read angle mean anything at all as long as it's not 360? It sounds to me like as long as the read angle is something possible (0-359) that there is nothing "bannable" about it...
I am still not completely sure what exactly read angle is or how it applies to anything functionally, but from what I can make out, as long as you are in the acceptable range, what the read angle is doesn't really matter... I am kinda shaky on that though so if that's not the case a laymens explanation of why would be appreciated.
TIA
Oh and as a followup, I hope this is appropriate to post here, I am planning on getting an MS28 and a power adapter kit for it to run using a SATA to USB adapter (I have a SFF PC with only 1 DVD drive so the kreon method would still require me to house it externally... given that I figure I might as well go MS28 if possible and just let that sit on my desk instead of the kreon drive, I don't mind the extra wires for the power kit) to rip backups... so if there is anything anyone thinks is important to consider in that regard that I didn't mention please feel free to let me know. I see mention of a Benq read firmware possibly comming up and I have a BenQ 360 so if there is any actual info on that (or if it's just a pipe dream for now) I would appreciate info on that too.
TIAA
This post has been edited by Devedander: Dec 11 2007, 09:01 AM
QUOTE(Devedander @ Dec 11 2007, 06:51 AM)
10: Even retail games might sometimes read back 359 and might then be bumped by ixtreme <1.3 to an inpossible 360 resulting in banning only playing retail copies.
This is an interesting point, Iriez quotes stats of 0.1% chance of reading a 6701 with a Samsung OEM drive...
My question... Is there any stats or estimates for Benq or Hitachi... I know these drives aren't used for ripping but they are used for playing original or backups so the SS must be read a some stage... So I'm thinking that for < 1.4 the whole jitter issue means it is unsafe regardless of whether you use Backups are from Kreon, Samsung or even originals.....
The big question is how unsafe, with Samsung it's 1/1000 of returning a bad angle, but what about Hitachi or Benq????
QUOTE(Devedander @ Dec 11 2007, 12:15 AM)
That's not really proof... it just doesn't disprove.
The reason it's not proof is that MS COULD be storing info on the HD, even keeping you on a list of people to ban whenever or later... it COULD just coincide with playing a backup online with no stealth.
Is it likely? I think not... combined with the fact that the people who could find out have already examined the contents of the HD and that that would be quite a coincidence indeed that you got banned from their list of "to be banned" on the day (I am assuming thats what you mean) you played your backup...
But it's not proof...
Hi,
I think MS is keeping a list and i know this of my own experiance, i tell you how i know.
I survived the 2 banhammers, 1 week ago i got the RROD, so i phoned MS to get my box replaced and they told me that my warenty has expired because of violating the terms (my box is 2 years old so they should replace it). They wouldn't say the exact reason but the person on the phone said i should know why i was flagged, as he called it. I played bad rips before so that could be the reason. Now i fixed my box, the RROD is gone and i can play my games again and also online on live etc. Later i called MS again to verify that they stored my serial number of the box correctly and they did, the person confirmed me that the box with that serial number has been flagged as expired warenty od violating the terms.
So that makes the story of a list real for me, i can still play on live but they know who i am.
unknownjack. Thats the biggest load of shit i have heard haha.
QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Dec 11 2007, 12:57 PM)
unknownjack. Thats the biggest load of shit i have heard haha.
How do U explain it, What could be the other reason my warenty has expired? i am a noob i admid, but i also would like a explanation of my story wich realy happend.
i dont know u might wanna read there T&C's
Anyways back on topic please thanks
Hi,
Just a quick question...
For putting the key in my IX 1.2 Samsung firmware I always
used x360sam.
Do I _have_ to use the firmtool supplied with the 1.4 package now?
Or can I still use x360sam ?
TIA,
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This post has been edited by michaelboord: Dec 11 2007, 02:23 PM
QUOTE(michaelboord @ Dec 11 2007, 01:22 PM)
Hi,
Just a quick question...
For putting the key in my IX 1.2 Samsung firmware I always
used x360sam.
Do I _have_ to use the firmtool supplied with the 1.4 package now?
Or can I still use x360sam ?
TIA,
(IMG:
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use firmtool, works almost the same, is updated and improved!
Well i just got banned last night! It happen around 7:00 pm central time, the only two games i know i play and were bad rips are Mass Effect and Orange Box. DVDmuelleter said the games were okay so i played them u know before i knew about the Kreon Checker. So when i test them using Kreon (Dam) too late! they were bad kreon rips and already played. Wish Kreon Checker was built in to DVDmuelleter when it does a check but oh well looks like the ban is back on again! banned one was a m28 with iXtreme 1.3. Still got a m25 with iXtreme 1.3 and it is still online maybe because i didn't play the bad rips games in that one.
Guess i'll trade with a friend of mine that doesn't go online. I want to see how the iXtreme 1.4 work out with the new wave of banning before i try it.
I have read thru all 18 pages over the last 3 days and its making a good read.
My questions are probably in here but I dont think they have been answered...
1. If I leave my box at iXtreme 1.3 but make sure everygame I get is patched with a 'good kreon security sector' I should be fine yeah?
2. I have played mass effect with a bad kreon rip but I have binned that copy and am now using a good kreon copy, am I ok now or do you think it has already flagged with MS?
3. If I update to iXtreme 1.4 I can still use bad kreon rips but it wont be flagged?
I doubt 1 + 2 have definate answers but a hey :/
Cheers sirs
QUOTE(sirsmooth @ Dec 11 2007, 05:36 PM)
I have read thru all 18 pages over the last 3 days and its making a good read.
My questions are probably in here but I dont think they have been answered...
1. If I leave my box at iXtreme 1.3 but make sure everygame I get is patched with a 'good kreon security sector' I should be fine yeah?
2. I have played mass effect with a bad kreon rip but I have binned that copy and am now using a good kreon copy, am I ok now or do you think it has already flagged with MS?
3. If I update to iXtreme 1.4 I can still use bad kreon rips but it wont be flagged?
I doubt 1 + 2 have definate answers but a hey :/
Cheers sirs
All responses below come from me reading through the thread ;-)
1. Noooooo - go to iX 1.4 - do not stay at v1.3 or earlier. The most important thing to note from this whole discussion is that versions of iXtreme earlier than 1.4 are NOT safe.
2. Maybe, maybe not. Move to iX 1.4 anyway or you could still get flagged regardless...
3. Correct - remembering that there are no guarantees, you are much safer than being at any earlier version.
On a personal note - I say thank you to C4E and Kreon for their fantastic work. There is NO blame here people, M$ just happened to play their next card and got lucky. Let the team do their work and get us back a step or two ahead of the game.
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 11 2007, 12:53 AM)
Iriez so what you are saying is that a new firmware is needed for the kreon drive to remove jitter??
Should we hold off backing up our games until a new firmware is released or is it still ok to use the current fw..
Also thanks feflicker for posting that info about the rumors of people being banned offline hopefully that will be the end of that and people can stop posting about it putting more fear into peoples minds that they can be logged for playing backups offline..
Its ok to use kreon, just check 0x228 to verify 0100 or 0000 and not 6701 for new games.
QUOTE(sirsmooth @ Dec 11 2007, 10:36 AM)
I have read thru all 18 pages over the last 3 days and its making a good read.
My questions are probably in here but I dont think they have been answered...
1. If I leave my box at iXtreme 1.3 but make sure everygame I get is patched with a 'good kreon security sector' I should be fine yeah?
2. I have played mass effect with a bad kreon rip but I have binned that copy and am now using a good kreon copy, am I ok now or do you think it has already flagged with MS?
3. If I update to iXtreme 1.4 I can still use bad kreon rips but it wont be flagged?
I doubt 1 + 2 have definate answers but a hey :/
Cheers sirs
1: Theoretically no.
2: How the hell would we know?
3: Yes
Hey
I have been following this thread since the beginning, and just thought i'd try and slip a couple of questions in 
1.) Is there any sort of ETA for the new toolbox? I heard noon yesterday was the supposed release time but I suppose if it needs more time then so be it.
2.) The COD4 rip I have registers as fine when autofixed with mulleter and kreon checker, so does this mean when I flash to 1.4 I should be okay to play online?
Regards
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 11 2007, 05:08 PM)
Its ok to use kreon, just check 0x228 to verify 0100 or 0000 and not 6701 for new games.
For someone who isnt really into the details could you explain how exactly to do that? And if you find 6701 is the only resolution to re rip and hope?
BTW Since you seem to know all the details if you get the time (during your morning dump or whatever - I hope your friends know not to touch your laptop when they visit) could you check my list near the top of this page and let me know if and where I am drawing wrong conclusions?
I know you spend a lot of time answering questions already but I really did try to catch up on everything and would appreciate your input on whether I got it right or not....
TIA
Iriez, I can't remember, it's been a while since I've thought about this stuff, but wasn't the nand flash memory (where the dashboard is stored) also dumped before/after playing a backup? I believe that didn't change as well. (It's highly unlikely MS$ would write to flash while playing a game anyway, too risky...)
The simple fact of the matter is that MS$ COULD theoretically implement an offline banning system. HOWEVER, at this point in time there is ZERO evidence of such a program, and trust me people have been looking!
I think it would be helpful if someone put together an FAQ about this topic, or even some sort of matrix that illustrates the combinations that result in ban and the combinations that are safe... It's starting to get pretty complicated, especially for the casual forum visitor who has a hard time filtering through the b.s. and the actual facts 
My disc won't stop spinning, even at dashboard the disc keeps spinning after I have quit a game. The same thing happens when I have a disc in the drive in startup. I use the 8x verison of the firmware. I have tried both orginals and backups with the same result. Anyone got the same problem or know how to fix it?
QUOTE(unknownjack @ Dec 11 2007, 03:49 AM)
Hi,
I think MS is keeping a list and i know this of my own experiance, i tell you how i know.
I survived the 2 banhammers, 1 week ago i got the RROD, so i phoned MS to get my box replaced and they told me that my warenty has expired because of violating the terms (my box is 2 years old so they should replace it). They wouldn't say the exact reason but the person on the phone said i should know why i was flagged, as he called it. I played bad rips before so that could be the reason. Now i fixed my box, the RROD is gone and i can play my games again and also online on live etc. Later i called MS again to verify that they stored my serial number of the box correctly and they did, the person confirmed me that the box with that serial number has been flagged as expired warenty od violating the terms.
So that makes the story of a list real for me, i can still play on live but they know who i am.
WTF 
MS flagged you and you are still able to play online Ok buddy you could of been cussing online or downloading demos from other regions etc... trust me if they knew you had a backup you wouldn't be playing on live period..
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Dec 11 2007, 09:47 PM)
WTF
MS flagged you and you are still able to play online
Ok buddy you could of been cussing online or downloading demos from other regions etc... trust me if they knew you had a backup you wouldn't be playing on live period..
Actually it makes more sense that if they banned him for swearing or other XBL stuff the exact opposite would have happened... he would have had his XBL cancelled and his warranty would be intact. It doesn't make sense that it would void your hardware warranty for violating XBL TOS.
In fact none of what you say seems that it would warrant a hardware warranty void.
It makes more sense that they have him marked down as modded (ie a hardware mod, which DOES void the warranty) than to think that somehow being banned from XBL would void your hardware warranty... If I swear and am racist on XBL and get banned that in no way should effect my right to get warranty repairs...
TOOLBOX 4.6 with incorporated ixtreme 1.4 for all versions (36,46,47,59,78,79) is ready, just doing final testing. Will release in 2 hours.
ok so if he is flagged he should not be playing online period MS isn't gonna flag you and tell you the warranty is void but say hey we know your playing backups but go ahead and continue playing live you are special and we are only banning the other people who play backups but not you... I think its pure BS
QUOTE(carranzafp @ Dec 11 2007, 11:00 PM)
TOOLBOX 4.6 with incorporated ixtreme 1.4 for all versions (36,46,47,59,78,79) is ready, just doing final testing. Will release in 2 hours.
Thanks
Nice new toolbox... 
I didn't know you can flash old Hitachi drives with the toolbox or is this something new 
The firmware toolbox can flash all the hitachi drives.
But can it flash the hitachi f79 without install the passkey?
QUOTE(fits79 @ Dec 11 2007, 05:16 PM)
But can it flash the hitachi f79 without install the passkey?
I will take a shot in the dark and say, NO.
Caster.
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 11 2007, 05:08 PM)
Its ok to use kreon, just check 0x228 to verify 0100 or 0000 and not 6701 for new games.
In order to make my backups as secure as possible and apologize for my ignorance, how should I check 0x228 to verify 0100 or 0000 and not 6701 for new games? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Thanks a lot
QUOTE(GoRdiE @ Dec 11 2007, 11:24 PM)
In order to make my backups as secure as possible and apologize for my ignorance, how should I check 0x228 to verify 0100 or 0000 and not 6701 for new games? (IMG:
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Thanks a lot
with a hex editor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
QUOTE(GoRdiE @ Dec 11 2007, 11:24 PM)
In order to make my backups as secure as possible and apologize for my ignorance, how should I check 0x228 to verify 0100 or 0000 and not 6701 for new games? (IMG:
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Thanks a lot
Isn't this exactly what the Kreon checker verifies against?
If so, then the check is not relevant for iXtreme 1.4.
If I'm wrong than I'm also confused. It would be nice to get a brief sticky faq on this topic.
Hi guys, new FW toolbox is here!
I dont think I can post a link here but it should be on XS in a short time!
Thanks so much maximus for making this possible!
:D:D
QUOTE(carranzafp @ Dec 11 2007, 01:00 PM)
TOOLBOX 4.6 with incorporated ixtreme 1.4 for all versions (36,46,47,59,78,79) is ready, just doing final testing. Will release in 2 hours.
Did the new version come out yet?
the toolbox 4.6 is out now on the wild (since 1 hour), it happens that usual places is down, I cannot post there, they are fixing it and will be available to everybody soon
Regards
so, basicly it means that having an cracked system, I can go online with original disks without worring about getting banned?
QUOTE(marvin123 @ Dec 11 2007, 08:45 PM)
so, basicly it means that having an cracked system, I can go online with original disks without worring about getting banned?
I would like to know the answer to this question also! And awhile back I thought I read here on the xbscene that if you played backups and you wasn't signed into live that it was still possible to be banned the next time you signed in? Something about information being stored on the console, or am I wrong about this? Thanks
QUOTE(feflicker @ Dec 11 2007, 01:55 PM)
Iriez, I can't remember, it's been a while since I've thought about this stuff, but wasn't the nand flash memory (where the dashboard is stored) also dumped before/after playing a backup? I believe that didn't change as well. (It's highly unlikely MS$ would write to flash while playing a game anyway, too risky...)
The simple fact of the matter is that MS$ COULD
theoretically implement an offline banning system. HOWEVER, at this point in time there is ZERO evidence of such a program, and trust me people have been looking!
I think it would be helpful if someone put together an FAQ about this topic, or even some sort of matrix that illustrates the combinations that result in ban and the combinations that are safe... It's starting to get pretty complicated, especially for the casual forum visitor who has a hard time filtering through the b.s. and the actual facts (IMG:
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Correct. NAND is only changed by dashboard/kernel updates.
QUOTE(GoRdiE @ Dec 11 2007, 06:24 PM)
In order to make my backups as secure as possible and apologize for my ignorance, how should I check 0x228 to verify 0100 or 0000 and not 6701 for new games? (IMG:
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Thanks a lot
Kreon checker can do it. Just keep in mind its only for newer games. Older games will commonly report back 6701.
QUOTE(marvin123 @ Dec 11 2007, 08:45 PM)
so, basicly it means that having an cracked system, I can go online with original disks without worring about getting banned?
With 1.4? Yes. Previously? We offer no warranties (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Well, we never do anyways (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
QUOTE(MajestacaL @ Dec 11 2007, 09:15 PM)
I would like to know the answer to this question also! And awhile back I thought I read here on the xbscene that if you played backups and you wasn't signed into live that it was still possible to be banned the next time you signed in? Something about information being stored on the console, or am I wrong about this? Thanks
If you read the last 5 pages, its been answered several times.
I bricked my MS25 (lost power during fw flash) and it made no noise when the console was powered on. Connected it back up fully and saw E65... then ran around the house screaming for about 15 mins before remembering I had my ORIG.bin saved in about 3 places, but I went into DOS anyway and just done 'fSam serial' and it flashed the firmware.
By the way, I used a floppy (my current system BIOS does not support booting from a USB stick) and in the backups\serialpt1\serialpt2\ directory there are two bin files;
SAM-CFW
SAM-OFW
CFW = current firmware flashed to the drive and OFW = original firmware that was on the drive before the flash, correct?
If this is in the wrong place soryr... still noobish. I was trying to get ahold of that beautifull new fw and xbins says invite only? whats up with that?
well iextreme 1.4 batch file didn't work for me. I placed my original in the correct directory but, I got the error
CAN NOT FIND ORIG.BIN. So in my case I just took the ixtreme 1.1.bin i had already. Copied the dvd-key and pasted it into the 1.4 ixtreme using FWtoolbox. Used dosflash16 and worked fine for me.
Just posting incase this can help someone.
This post has been edited by E-Ravishing: Dec 12 2007, 05:57 AM
don't know if I'm breaking any rules, but anyone lookin for anything can check torrent sites
QUOTE(plasticintellectual @ Dec 11 2007, 10:49 PM)
don't know if I'm breaking any rules, but anyone lookin for anything can check torrent sites
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I don't know if you are but I do know that the scene does not support what you are trying to tell us...but there are those who will do it anyways and so that is their business not ours and so it has no place for discussion here.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
QUOTE(toffepoff @ Dec 11 2007, 02:33 PM)
My disc won't stop spinning, even at dashboard the disc keeps spinning after I have quit a game. The same thing happens when I have a disc in the drive in startup. I use the 8x verison of the firmware. I have tried both orginals and backups with the same result. Anyone got the same problem or know how to fix it?
I thought that change was implemented in the May update, right?
I have an Hitachi 78k, since the new maximus tool is out I can upgrade to 1.4 firmware.
I have 1.2 currently installed. Do I need to reflash back to original and then upgrade to 1.4?
Or can I use Maximus tool to upgrade directly from 1.2 to 1.4 with my key inserted?
QUOTE(Elduderino @ Dec 12 2007, 11:54 AM)
I have an Hitachi 78k, since the new maximus tool is out I can upgrade to 1.4 firmware.
I have 1.2 currently installed. Do I need to reflash back to original and then upgrade to 1.4?
Or can I use Maximus tool to upgrade directly from 1.2 to 1.4 with my key inserted?
yes
yes
can be done, but better safe then sorry so restore first!
Thankyou (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
This post has been edited by rob7bt: Dec 12 2007, 07:58 PM
QUOTE(rob7bt @ Dec 12 2007, 07:48 PM)
hi if anyone has the new 1.4 firmware and toolbox can you check the above files to make sure they are the same as the files you have
iXtreme v1.4 ALL VERSIONS Download @ <a href="http://XS Filter - 110506 - 1/2hox82" target="_blank">http://XS Filter - 110506 - 1/2hox82</a>
FWToolbox 4.6 (HT78/79 iX1.4 <a href="http://XS Filter - 110506 - 1/ys3thv" target="_blank">http://XS Filter - 110506 - 1/ys3thv</a>
Thankyou (IMG:
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How weird is that can know one post links on here?
If you look, the links are filtered out by the forum software... it's because they don't want you posting links to that place... you are circumventing rules of the forum, might want to just take those back off...
BTW There was all the talk a while back about scene releases being poorly made that got people banned... does this take some of the credibility from that statement as they might have been made as properly as anyone could really expect but still get you banned?
This post has been edited by Devedander: Dec 12 2007, 07:57 PM
cool thanks
having trouble as i downloaded from a link in mirc #fw when i update the firmware its at the end of the flashing it does all of the banks but says 17 write errors?
Thats why i posted the links on the site to verify if those newer links i posted where ok,and i havent sent dodgy files to my benq drive!
O, no, not that, I meant firmware or other pc software apps....
QUOTE(rob7bt @ Dec 12 2007, 02:01 PM)
says 17 write errors?
Erase then flash.
Caster.
1. Has anyone flashed the benq drive with the firmware 1.4 with succes(No write error or any other error)?
2. If it did then can it talled us what exactly did?
3. If it complete the flash procedure with the "17 write errors" what may be the prob? It can play all the discs(original and backups) correctly or not?
4. If it brings the "17 write errors" and then you do another flash procedure(erase and write) again it fix the prob with the "17 write errors" or not?
A lot of thanks.
This post has been edited by fits79: Dec 12 2007, 09:39 PM
i flashed my benq without errors i used a good old fashioned floppy drive with either dosflash 1.4 or 1.3
i erased first then rebooted then flashed working perfect
QUOTE(martsmall @ Dec 12 2007, 10:09 PM)
i flashed my benq without errors i used a good old fashioned floppy drive with either dosflash 1.4 or 1.3
i erased first then rebooted then flashed working perfect
Same here.
I now burned Cod4 with my Pioneer 212 Sata burner, and once again it works perfectly. It seems like the BenQ is more sensitive than hitachi. My old cod4 was burned with a samsung drive, it worked flawless on 2 hitachi´s and it worked perfect on my BenQ with x5 speed ix 1.1, but not with x8 ix 1.4. So make sure you got verbatim and pioneer combo with benQ drives. Verbatims alone dont seem to cut it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Thx Iriez for the tip.
EDIT: BTW, whats up with Bins, cant connect?
This post has been edited by AsssKisser666: Dec 12 2007, 10:33 PM
QUOTE(unknownjack @ Dec 11 2007, 11:49 AM)
Hi,
I think MS is keeping a list and i know this of my own experiance, i tell you how i know.
I survived the 2 banhammers, 1 week ago i got the RROD, so i phoned MS to get my box replaced and they told me that my warenty has expired because of violating the terms (my box is 2 years old so they should replace it). They wouldn't say the exact reason but the person on the phone said i should know why i was flagged, as he called it. I played bad rips before so that could be the reason. Now i fixed my box, the RROD is gone and i can play my games again and also online on live etc. Later i called MS again to verify that they stored my serial number of the box correctly and they did, the person confirmed me that the box with that serial number has been flagged as expired warenty od violating the terms.
So that makes the story of a list real for me, i can still play on live but they know who i am.
How the heck did u fix the RROD??? Enquiring minds want to know.
does anyone know for the benq firmware, if its able to make backups yet?
i've been succesfull in flashing the firmware to it, but it still dosnt show up in windows so i can make any backups with it.
Not possible to rip with the benq drive atm. Kreon or Samsung ms25/28
QUOTE(destro604 @ Dec 12 2007, 10:31 PM)
Not possible to rip with the benq drive atm. Kreon or Samsung ms25/28
do u know if theres any plans for it in the future?
QUOTE(uk_dan2k @ Dec 12 2007, 02:38 PM)
do u know if theres any plans for it in the future?
haven't heard anything about it, but I don't think so... someone in irc may know
QUOTE(destro604 @ Dec 12 2007, 04:45 PM)
haven't heard anything about it, but I don't think so... someone in irc may know
It has been discussed.
flashed to 1.3 a few days ago and today to 1.4..no problems whatsoever.
flashed from my Sata NF4. Bigger deal is opening that *** case, but i got me a t10 torx now...but EVERY F***G time i close the case shut it dawns on me i forgot to put in the screws (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Otherwise this is a breeze...i was flashing Benq w/ dosflash 1.3beta, and also make sure to erase before you flash.
Btw. xbins is down so is the irc channel.
QUOTE(flexy123 @ Dec 13 2007, 01:40 AM)
flashed to 1.3 a few days ago and today to 1.4..no problems whatsoever.
flashed from my Sata NF4. Bigger deal is opening that *** case, but i got me a t10 torx now...but EVERY F***G time i close the case shut it dawns on me i forgot to put in the screws (IMG:
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Otherwise this is a breeze...i was flashing Benq w/ dosflash 1.3beta, and also make sure to erase before you flash.
Btw. xbins is down so is the irc channel.
I never put the screws back on....3 hacked systems and no hardware problems.
QUOTE(DEEZNUTZ @ Dec 13 2007, 08:36 AM)
How the heck did u fix the RROD??? Enquiring minds want to know.
Just because I'm nice and been there before, here is the link to fix 3RLOD/RROD (what ever you wanna call it)
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=595746
Enjoy,
Read it at least twice carefully before starting
This post has been edited by minooch: Dec 13 2007, 08:36 AM
QUOTE(minooch @ Dec 13 2007, 07:32 AM)
Just because I'm nice and been there before, here is the link to fix 3RLOD/RROD (what ever you wanna call it)
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=595746Enjoy,
Read it at least twice carefully before starting
Thanks! A friend of mine just got the RROD after punching his 360 because of gaming frustration. He bought another system and I hacked it for him but wanted to try and fixing his old one. My guess is that he jogged something loose inside.
P.S. I told him to take anger management classes!
Has anyone got this to work with Xtreme Boot Maker 0.3.6? I need it for the Boke's patch and my def file is in the directory and it still won't load my firmware =[
have any one been able to use the ixtreme with vista?
i am having problem any pointer
(was it made to run on vista or not?)
Ive had no luck with the dosflash included I kept getting stacks overflow errors during the firmware read. I reverted back to dosflash16 1.3b and read first go without an error, erased the benq f/w and inserted the modded 1.4 ixtreme and its all working flawlessly at 8x. I didnt bother with iprep I just manually extracted the orig.bin, used the makeixtreme firmware.cmd and used the merged hacked firmware and its ran the dosflash write string manually. One thing of note if you check the .BAT file of the write command it has an extra 0 switch on the end I am guessing that is a typo because it wouldnt work with the string and kept prompting the /help list for the string parameters and their usage. I left the 0 switch at the end of the dosflash w command off and it worked first time. Goodluck everyone and props to the guys that devote their time and effort into making us all happy gamers with the continued ixtreme firmware updates :-)
QUOTE(fits79 @ Dec 14 2007, 02:45 AM)
Don't know anyone any of that questions?????
Please answer to me pleasee.
A lot of thanks. AGAIN
i got my benq to flash with the latest ixtreme fw, i used the latest iprep software and selected the 5x fw for benq ixtreme.
booted up in my usb pen with the prepared drive, when the autoexec menu came up, i unplugged the power on the benq, clicked the "y" thing so it keeps searching for drive port, then plugged power in.
Once it dumped the original fw, unplugged power on drive for next stage, erase n write, did the same thing again, pressed "y" and then plugged power back in, then the erase was done, unplugged power 3rd time, click y for the 3rd time, plugged power back in and the drive wrote the ixtreme fw - and all done.
Also tried copying my orig benq file to the ixtreme1.4 folder for 5x, using the bat file to make the ixtreme firmware and then put the benq ixtreme fw in the ipreped drive finding the right folder and renaming it to BENQ-CFW.BIN - so i could skip reformating and preping the usb pen drive again, and then just erase and flash the benq drive again.
This post has been edited by uk_dan2k: Dec 14 2007, 03:50 PM
QUOTE(fits79 @ Dec 13 2007, 09:45 PM)
Don't know anyone any of that questions?????
Please answer to me pleasee.
A lot of thanks. AGAIN
No one answers your questions because they've been answered already, multiple times. Read threads - this isnt the first time i've read your posts where you've clearly done no searching to find an answer.
1) Yes, of course.
2) They followed the tutorial - it works!
3) If you get write errors, erase and reflash.
4) same as 3.
Caster.
QUOTE(toffepoff @ Dec 11 2007, 03:33 PM)
My disc won't stop spinning, even at dashboard the disc keeps spinning after I have quit a game. The same thing happens when I have a disc in the drive in startup. I use the 8x verison of the firmware. I have tried both orginals and backups with the same result. Anyone got the same problem or know how to fix it?
Mine did the same, I was so irritated that I flashed back to 1.2 I ran at 8x and wondered if it did the same at 12x. Does anyone know?
QUOTE(Bluediablito @ Dec 14 2007, 06:12 AM)
have any one been able to use the ixtreme with vista?
i am having problem any pointer
(was it made to run on vista or not?)
I use Windows Vista Ultimate ... didn't have any problems whatsoever. Followed sosotilt's mtkflash method ... creating hacked.bin using your Orig.Bin, firmtool & the "make firmware cmd". Booted system off the bootable USB and flashed!
What problems are you having?
QUOTE(fits79 @ Dec 12 2007, 09:36 PM)
1. Has anyone flashed the benq drive with the firmware 1.4 with succes(No write error or any other error)?
2. If it did then can it talled us what exactly did?
3. If it complete the flash procedure with the "17 write errors" what may be the prob? It can play all the discs(original and backups) correctly or not?
4. If it brings the "17 write errors" and then you do another flash procedure(erase and write) again it fix the prob with the "17 write errors" or not?
A lot of thanks.
I kept geting write errors using my VIA card and dosflash 1.4 (erase wouldn't work either), after about a half hour of googling I found a thread somewhere that said use 1.3.. so I did that and it worked like a charm.
I upgraded to iXtreme 1.4 on my hitachi 59DJ about 1 week ago , ive only ever used GOOD rips on xbox live and i turned the xbox on this morning it said i was BANNED using the new iXtreme 1.4 on a hitachi drive.
Xbox 360
Hitachi 59DJ
Tallismoon blue fan
XCM high speed fan
charmeleon case
iXtreme 1.4 @ 12x
BANNED
Just wondering because a buddy of mines fixing my 360 (bricked drive) is 1.4 ixtreme the way to go? is it better?
QUOTE(jc123rules @ Dec 15 2007, 04:37 PM)
I upgraded to iXtreme 1.4 on my hitachi 59DJ about 1 week ago
What firmwares have you used before (not just most recent)?
This post has been edited by Surazal: Dec 15 2007, 07:02 PM
QUOTE(jc123rules @ Dec 15 2007, 10:37 AM)
I upgraded to iXtreme 1.4 on my hitachi 59DJ about 1 week ago , ive only ever used GOOD rips on xbox live and i turned the xbox on this morning it said i was BANNED using the new iXtreme 1.4 on a hitachi drive.
Xbox 360
Hitachi 59DJ
Tallismoon blue fan
XCM high speed fan
charmeleon case
iXtreme 1.4 @ 12x
BANNED
You should follow up with MS on that. I would like to hear the down and dirty. Be prepared for war though, your going to have to go through several reps, and supervisors. They are going to offer you a 'option' to pay them $99 and they will check if your console is modified, and they will remove the ban. Keep strong willed, tell them your innocent, that its BULLSHIT you should have to pay them for their fuckup, and that they need to either fix it, or give you the EXACT reason why your paid for console has been banned.
Previous firmware to the iXtreme 1.4 was the iXtreme 1.2 for hitachi , anyway it's too late to argue with MS for banning me because ive already traded it in at a games store and bought the new arcade system with a ben-q drive but wont be modding it until the warranty has run out. For all my backup's i have another 360 system which currently has the 3 red lights but i will be doing the x-clamp fix on it within the next week so i will flash that and play backups on that but no live, so ill have one console for backups and another for original games for xbox live.
If I stay with the previous version of the iXtreme firmware and am not banned (and assuming I'm not in a queue to get banned at a later date), could I use originals only from this point out and not get banned? Yes, I can't upgrade to 1.4 (it's complicated) so please don't post that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
QUOTE(Boba_Fett @ Dec 16 2007, 05:01 AM)
If I stay with the previous version of the iXtreme firmware and am not banned (and assuming I'm not in a queue to get banned at a later date), could I use originals only from this point out and not get banned? Yes, I can't upgrade to 1.4 (it's complicated) so please don't post that (IMG:
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I believe it's possible for 1.3 to give bad data even on originals.
BTW have you checked your warranty status online? I think everyone should just to see if anyone else has 1899 or some weird date as an expiration...
ok so i heard about this and i think i should update but hoe do i do this same way ive updated the others running flashix.bat from dos or what. And does this mean i still need to do kreon checker, also can i still play the backup even if the ss file is not good or what. And also has it even been released yet? i havent been able to find it anywhere.
ok so basically what are the programs i need to use to check if the backups is legit becuase ive been using xbox backup creater to check if its legit will this work and will i still need to run programs like these with the new firmware and what do i do if i encounter a bad ss or something how do i fix it
QUOTE(Zod5000 @ Dec 15 2007, 09:00 AM)
I kept geting write errors using my VIA card and dosflash 1.4 (erase wouldn't work either), after about a half hour of googling I found a thread somewhere that said use 1.3.. so I did that and it worked like a charm.
The command to erase firmware with dosflash 1.4 is different to 1.3. This could be a possible cause of your flash not working with 1.4.
for dosflash 1.3:
DosFlash e xxxx 1 a0 1 4 D8 0
for dosflash 1.4:
DosFlash e xxxx 1 a0 1 4 C7 0
The write command is the same for both versions but make sure you erase fw before writing.
QUOTE(jc123rules @ Dec 15 2007, 04:37 PM)
I upgraded to iXtreme 1.4 on my hitachi 59DJ about 1 week ago , ive only ever used GOOD rips on xbox live and i turned the xbox on this morning it said i was BANNED using the new iXtreme 1.4 on a hitachi drive.
Xbox 360
Hitachi 59DJ
Tallismoon blue fan
XCM high speed fan
charmeleon case
iXtreme 1.4 @ 12x
BANNED
Did you have your 360 modified with any of the plain xtreme firmwares (non ixtreme) at any point prior? If so even good rips weren't stealth when used with the old hitachi xtreme firmwares. You were probably flagged a long time ago and they just waited till to ban you.
As of today, still good to go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
Hitachi 59D flashed out of the box with iX 1.2 rev2(system was purchased right after my MS25 was banned back in spring, but waited for iX)
Just updraded a few days ago to iX 1.4 8x
Everytime i flash i use my banned system
I listed all the games i've played since the flashing previously in this thread or maybe another & all passed stealth except for HL2 & ME had bad SS, but i played both games a total of 2hrs each & never again.
I connect to LIVE for demos & to chat. I can count how many times i've played MP on my 1 hand.
A non stealth game has never went into my system nor do i keep discs in my system after play.
I ALWAYS disconnect my ethernet after i shut down.
Also, a friend of mine with a 78FK just got banned yesterday after surviving both ban waves. He had an older fw up until about 2 months ago when he updated to iX 1.2. Im not even going to get into it, but i'll just say i was in shock that he wasn't banned sooner. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Samsung MS25, iXtreme 1.4 5x banned today, Dec 16th. Survived previous ban waves. All my backups have been verified with Mulleter and Kreon checker (none of these ever used on Live, though I have been connected with a silver account).
QUOTE(macaon @ Dec 16 2007, 12:31 PM)
Samsung MS25, iXtreme 1.4 5x banned today, Dec 16th. Survived previous ban waves. All my backups have been verified with Mulleter and Kreon checker (none of these ever used on Live, though I have been connected with a silver account).
Read my suggestion on page 22 to the other guy that got banned, and follow up with MS on it. Throw a shitfit and get somewhere with it. Get some information!
I just flashed my brand new 360's BenQ drive with iXtreme 1.4. I haven't used any other firmwares with it. I was wondering if it's okay to play backups of Mass Effect now. The release notes for 1.4 say it fixes the Kreon bug, so do I no longer have to use and worry about Kreonchecker?
my launch 360 w/ hitachi 47 dvd rom is using c4eva 2.4 firmware. i only play games offline, don't use live. do i have to upgrade the firmware to 1.4?
Hi! I have a little question, If I flash my benq with the 5x speed firm version, the original games are played at 5x or at 12x?
thx. guys!!
QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 16 2007, 05:52 PM)
Read my suggestion on page 22 to the other guy that got banned, and follow up with MS on it. Throw a shitfit and get somewhere with it. Get some information!
Would be nice if someone could come up with a scrip to push M$'s buttons to get as much info from them as possible.
i got banned this weekend...
on friday nite, i upgraded my fw successfully... then afterwards, i installed the new fall dashboard update... everything was looking good... even downloaded some free themes... went to bed...
next day... saturday afternoon, turned on my 360... gave me error about connecting to live... checked the status codes... damn it... the ban z status code...
i had a hitachi 59... prior i had maximus 2.3 r2 -> ix 1.2 rev2 -> ix 1.4... its possible i didnt have properly stealthed backups early on... later on, i was more diligent and had a better understanding about making my backups... went on xbl with real and backups every so often...
oh well... ordered a replacement 360 arcade...
This post has been edited by squeez: Dec 17 2007, 09:41 AM
hi everybody
is there a way to get the 1.4 Xtreme version at 12X rather than 8X ?
thanks
Hi.
Is there a way to run dosflash 1.4 beta at dos with auto parameter but you define the port because in auto mode don't see the right one for my pci sata card.
If there is a way which is the way?
A lot of thanks.
This post has been edited by fits79: Dec 17 2007, 11:01 PM
ok is there a possibiliy that the guys that make the firmwares and patch the firmware (Hitachi) be abile to do a firmware with just the 8x, 5x and 2x and nothing else as i dont want to play backups but would like for the damn drive not to take off just a thought.
I've been checking around and can't seem to find - is 1.4 considered unsafe at the moment? Thanks
QUOTE(Menotti @ Dec 19 2007, 02:19 PM)
I've been checking around and can't seem to find - is 1.4 considered unsafe at the moment? Thanks
Ditto.
In addition, I've 2 questions and would GREATLY appreciate any help:
#1 - I have TWO Xbox 360 Premiums that I hacked back in January. Both are Samsung-Toshiba MS28 drives. One of them DIED, so I need to replace it, but I haven't played on either console since MAY 2007!!
If I buy a 360 Arcade, I could just use my 20gb from my dead premium and controllers and such... could an Arcade nowadays be HACKED? I've no idea what drives come with the units now..
#2 - My 360 Premium that WORKS... should I just hack to the newest firmware, or do I need to do something in addition like wiping all of my save games (I'm hoping not).
THANKS IN ADVANCE!! I need this help badly b/c I wanna get back into gaming on my 360s. It's been too long.
any news on the safety of 1.4?
QUOTE(g0dM@n @ Dec 19 2007, 09:16 PM)
Ditto.
In addition, I've 2 questions and would GREATLY appreciate any help:
#1 - I have TWO Xbox 360 Premiums that I hacked back in January. Both are Samsung-Toshiba MS28 drives. One of them DIED, so I need to replace it, but I haven't played on either console since MAY 2007!!
If I buy a 360 Arcade, I could just use my 20gb from my dead premium and controllers and such... could an Arcade nowadays be HACKED? I've no idea what drives come with the units now..
Yes you could just use your hard drive from your dead premium. all you have to do to use your wireless controllers is re-sync them to your new console.
QUOTE(Menotti @ Dec 20 2007, 01:50 PM)
any news on the safety of 1.4?
It's the safest firmware yet.
Will 1.4 allow me to play the originals of mass effect, halo3 and cod4????
Every firmware I have tried up to ixtreme 1.3 says put this game in a 360...
And before anyone says i have the wrong key etc the backups of the same games
actually work but the originals do not.
Which just gets my goat as I have the originals and am forced to play backups.
QUOTE(baberg @ Dec 20 2007, 10:11 PM)
It's the safest firmware yet.
So even though there was a banwave, 1.4 is still being used by people on XBL and considered OK? Or has iXtreme recommended against it? Thanks
QUOTE(fits79 @ Dec 17 2007, 06:21 PM)
Hi.
Is there a way to run dosflash 1.4 beta at dos with auto parameter but you define the port because in auto mode don't see the right one for my pci sata card.
If there is a way which is the way?
A lot of thanks.
Nobody knows????
has anyone reported being banned using 1.4?
Should u stay 12x speed as thats stock or does this not really matter???
I just joined this forum and would like to start modding. Can someone tell me where I can get this firmware package? TIA
QUOTE(jus2sho @ Dec 26 2007, 06:47 PM)
I just joined this forum and would like to start modding. Can someone tell me where I can get this firmware package? TIA
download the pdf tutorial for your drive & follow the instructions in it, i done my BenQ with the help of the amazing BenQ tutroial & i didn't even need to ask anyone a single question about it.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=513412
good luck.
anybody knows what the new benq firmware 1.41 in testing is about?
QUOTE(FiShBuRn @ Dec 26 2007, 07:59 PM)
anybody knows what the new benq firmware 1.41 in testing is about?
QUOTE
Read Sector fix & 8x firmware dashboard
from google .
when will this be out ??
QUOTE(as905 @ Dec 26 2007, 03:58 PM)
from google .
when will this be out ??
Interesting. I just finally got around to upgrading my Benq this morning to 1.4. I wonder if I should wait to use my 360 until after this update is released? I'm using the 12x fw; does the sector fix apply to all Benq fw or just the 8x?
Thanks,
Mo
This post has been edited by mopoge: Dec 26 2007, 10:20 PM
Just Benq 8x FW
Just Benq 8x FW
From the description it sounds like more than just an 8x firmware... it sounds to me like it fixes something and also the 8x version addresses the dashboard somehow (maybe the 8x runs 12x on the dashboard before the game actually starts playing or something?)
Before anybody hits the panic button, I was just told by c4eva that 1.41 is to address bug fixes that are not security-related.
hey guys just a quick question..
i dl the new 1.4, created a 12x fw for ma benq. flashed no probs
using via card and the benbatch files (after editing)
after update run an orig game ..(tiger 08) and i asks me to put in an xbox 360 to play (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
tryed a backup of tiger 08 again same thing white screen lots of various writting and
wants me to pop it in a xbox 360 to play..
re-created a new 1.1 benq fw flased ok with the batch files
again dose the same thing...
any ideas.?
thanks
QUOTE(Toddler @ Dec 27 2007, 04:51 AM)
Before anybody hits the panic button, I was just told by c4eva that 1.41 is to address bug fixes that are not security-related.
That's good to hear, although it begs the question what kind of bug fix isn't security related with MS breathing down our necks like this...
QUOTE(Devedander @ Dec 27 2007, 12:32 PM)
That's good to hear, although it begs the question what kind of bug fix isn't security related with MS breathing down our necks like this...
I had the same thought. Any bug is potentially detectable by M$.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Dec 26 2007, 10:51 PM)
Before anybody hits the panic button, I was just told by c4eva that 1.41 is to address bug fixes that are not security-related.
Out of curiosity, when did c4eva tell you that 1.41 wasn't security related? Banning started about the 15th or so, so its unclear (or maybe it is I haven't really looked into it) whether 1.4 fixed whatever M$ detected. Just my thoughts.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Dec 27 2007, 03:51 AM)
Before anybody hits the panic button, I was just told by c4eva that 1.41 is to address bug fixes that are not security-related.
Bug fixes? Then i assume there will be a new firmware to speed the drive up since it crawls against the Samsung. I am very much looking forward to this if this is the case.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Dec 27 2007, 03:51 AM)
Before anybody hits the panic button, I was just told by c4eva that 1.41 is to address bug fixes that are not security-related.
Bug fixes? Then i assume there will be a new firmware to speed the drive up since it crawls against the Samsung. I am very much looking forward to this if this is the case.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
How do I flash the modified firmware using the .bat files? I already did the dben XXXXXXX XXXXX command and it dumped the key succesfully. Then I try and run fben imediately but get the following:
"couldn't open benq-cfw.bin". Should I put the benq-cfw.bin from the a:\cfw\ directory into the a:\backups\1234567\33300\ directory?? The 33300 already has my original firmware in there? Thanks!!!!
Oh I'm using Iprep 006 to make my bootable disks. So, therefore I'm using dben, fben , rben scripts.
Also, is benq-cfw.bin the same as my modified fw that I made using the firmtool program included with the ix14.rar that comes from xbins. Firmtool takes as first argument the orig.bin file and then the modified ix14 firmware of your speed choice, right? So, do I need to run the make_firmware.cmd under each respective speed folder? Then, I go and do the flashing manually in Dos? What if I want to use the bat files under root of my floppy? Which I tried from what I wrote above(2nd paragraph) but to no avail. I tried dben.
This post has been edited by deilzfcjk: Dec 30 2007, 11:09 AM
Can someone please answer this question for me please???
I want to flash my samsung drive with 1.41. My 360 has not been flashed or banned, but I do have a modified fan in it. I still want to use my original halo 3 to play on live. Will that be detected as modified since I am not using modified media? If I use backups of my disk offline with no network cable will I be banned when going back online?
so, I flashed my benq with the ixtreme 1.4 fw. It was an ordeal to say the least. There's problems with my computer and my via 6421 using NTFSDOS to boot the Dos environment to flash the drive. So, after thinking it's the drivers and pci port, i finally figured out I'd give the bootable floppy a try....and what do you know it works. I don't know why but it works. I think that there problems with drivers on NTFS4DOS using a mounted partition and dosflash for flashing. I used iprep 006 and couldn't get the NTFS4DOS to play nice when trying to dump f/w from my benq vad6038. Also, to add to problems the included bat scripts that come with iprep 006 is that dben doesn't do it's job of writing to the backup directory the merged firmware. Which is why when I finally did the fben command I couldn't play a backup or original game. The autoscripts for the iprep 101 v006 is wrong,particularly the dben script.
So everything works but it was a hassle.
This post has been edited by deilzfcjk: Dec 30 2007, 11:58 PM
After flashed a Hitachi 47 with iX FW 1.4 X8 can't be recognized in Win with slax. Before with old Xtreme no problem with that? So I can't flash the drive??
Went from 1.2c to 1.4 8x on my ms28. No more runaway train. The only thing i can here now is the fans.
This post has been edited by steved72: Dec 31 2007, 12:19 PM
QUOTE(radem @ Dec 31 2007, 01:40 AM)
After flashed a Hitachi 47 with iX FW 1.4 X8 can't be recognized in Win with slax. Before with old Xtreme no problem with that? So I can't flash the drive??
With iXtreme flashed, if you want to put it in modeB, leave the DVD open when powering it up, it automatically go into mode B, nice little feature of iXtreme.....
Ok so I have a question but I'm not sure if it belongs in this topic,or even this forum.I'll go ahead and ask.
My friend's X-Box was banned from XBL after the recent update (with the DivX support),he was using iXtreme 1.0 if I remember correctly (could be 1,2 not sure),I want to ask : If he RESTORES the drive back to the original state (with the restore.bat provided by iXtreme 1,4 I got),and connect from another home (i.e. different IP),shouldn't that mean he can go online and grab the update plus the DLC for his backed-up games ? Also,does 1,4 work with XBL ? Or have ppl been banned using it ?
I also read that iXtreme goes into ModeB automatically when you leave the drive open. Does that mean you dont have to use SLAX ? How do you re-go into modeB after you have flashed your drive ? He has the Hitachi 47 Also,the 1,4 has different speeds (2x,4x etc.) which one do I have to use ? (because I'll be the one flashing the drive)
Sorry for so many questions,I'm new to this ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
This post has been edited by Alexbeav: Dec 31 2007, 09:36 PM
QUOTE(Alexbeav @ Dec 31 2007, 10:10 PM)
My friend's X-Box was banned from XBL after the recent update (with the DivX support),he was using iXtreme 1.0 if I remember correctly (could be 1,2 not sure),I want to ask : If he RESTORES the drive back to the original state (with the restore.bat provided by iXtreme 1,4 I got),and connect from another home (i.e. different IP),shouldn't that mean he can go online and grab the update plus the DLC for his backed-up games ? Also,does 1,4 work with XBL ? Or have ppl been banned using it ?
No, that console can never go online again if it has been banned. The console's ID is banned so it doesn't matter where you try to log in or what firmware is on the drive. There have been reports of people being banned after updating to 1.4. But they could've been queued prior for the ban wave.
Can somebody answer unrealeureca's question up above? Everyone just skipped him and didnt answer his question.
QUOTE(UnrealEureca @ Jan 1 2008, 05:13 PM)
Can somebody answer unrealeureca's question up above? Everyone just skipped him and didnt answer his question.
UnrealEureca, ixtreme 1.41 is only for the benq and it is not yet released. You must mean ixtreme 1.4. If you flash your drive you run the risk of being banned when you are connected to xbox live. There have been a lot of bans lately. If you do not have on network device, wireless or otherwise, connecting you to xbox live, then it is impossible for you to get banned. There is no guarantee that if you do not use backups on live, it will be safe. If you want to continue to play halo 3 on live, do not modify your drive.
Thanks Frenzy05 for your reply.
I flashed my 78 a while back with this (well the new toolbox) and it didn't work for me. I got dirty disk errors with 60% of my games. I tried flashing it at two different rates, and neither worked. When I reverted back to 1.2 rev2, my problems were all fixed.
Riddle me this... if I use my 360 to only download/buy content and not play with games I will be 100% safe from banning?
I haven't went online in ages and still have my old xtreme whatever firmware on my Hitachi, so I'm looking to update to cop some live arcade and videos.
thanks
This post has been edited by FlashKick: Jan 9 2008, 10:17 AM
Has microsoft stopped the bans? i heard from a site that non-modders were getting banned cause the way microsoft were detecting bad games. Apparently if a laser is coming to the end of its life it can give all sorts of read errors.
Hey guys, sorry for the noob question. It's just that I've been trying to find a reliable guide on flashing my BenQ drive but getting caught up with all the different info from different people.
From my understanding, the best firmware to use now is iXtreme firmware 1.4 but I can't find a solid guide on how to do it. I read this guide (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=619356) but not sure if this is still current with 1.4 or not. Does flashing the BenQ still involve cutting the traces or not ?
If not, can anyone point me to a simple step-by-step guide on how to do this. Again sorry but I'm really a noob at this. Thanks !
QUOTE(smokeydabear @ Jan 12 2008, 05:44 PM)
If not, can anyone point me to a simple step-by-step guide on how to do this.
The latest info is here for all drive brands...
http://www.360mods.net/tutorial/Textbook.pdf
..it's a large PDF file so it may take a while depending on how fast your connection is. Right click the above link and Save As and then save it on your Desktop or wherever you want to keep the file.
Just a couple more questions...
I saw that on X-Projects, they've got 2 FW versions for the BenQ.... 1.4 and 1.4.1 (https://www.x-projects.org/download.php?list.22) I'm wondering if I should go for 1.4.1 since its more recent ?
Also, in the tech details of 1.4, they say the following :
Media Stealth, Disc-Jitter,Xbox 360 backup firmware modification!
Features
-----------------
(v1.4) Disc jitter fix
(v1.1) Extra compatability for some DVD movies
(v1.0) Defeats all current Xbox Live detection attempts
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 360 backups
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
(v1.0) Boots all Xbox 360 originals
(v1.0) Boots all compatible Xbox 1 originals on Xbox 360
Use on Xbox Live at own risk
Does this mean that if I have non-stealth games, they won't work ????
Thanks !!
QUOTE(smokeydabear @ Jan 15 2008, 05:43 PM)
Just a couple more questions...
I saw that on X-Projects, they've got 2 FW versions for the BenQ.... 1.4 and 1.4.1 (https://www.x-projects.org/download.php?list.22) I'm wondering if I should go for 1.4.1 since its more recent ?
Yep.
QUOTE(smokeydabear @ Jan 15 2008, 05:43 PM)
Does this mean that if I have non-stealth games, they won't work ????
Yep.
Thanks !! I'm gonna flash my 360 first thing tomorrow when I get back from work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Know anyone when it came up newest firmware than 1.4?
QUOTE(fitsman @ Jan 16 2008, 07:55 AM)
Know anyone when it came up newest firmware than 1.4?
No matter how many times I read it, I can't make any sense of this question... What did you really mean to ask?
QUOTE(fitsman @ Jan 16 2008, 03:55 PM)
Know anyone when it came up newest firmware than 1.4?
Is that even a real sentance?
What do you want to know? The date BenQ 1.41 came out?
Version 1.4 is still the newest Samsung and Hitachi firmware. There was a bug fixed for the BenQ hence the 1.41 version.
There's defiantly some sorta logging on the 360's. I made only 1 backup (halo 3(too expensive to risk losing)) and i patched it with the ss, pfi, and dmi that I found on the interwebz. My Hitachi 79 drive is flashed with the ixtreme 1.4 8x firmware using my key. I have never played on live, but when i was looking to download some demos, it wouldn't allow me on, and said i was banned.
So obviously there's some sorta logging on these systems, and I don't think a hard-drive would matter. I have a hard-drive, but i think that mabey there's some sorta onboard memory that they use to store memory, OR somehow they detected the firmware.
Any ideas?
QUOTE(shdowfire92 @ Jan 19 2008, 09:54 PM)
There's defiantly some sorta logging on the 360's. I made only 1 backup (halo 3(too expensive to risk losing)) and i patched it with the ss, pfi, and dmi that I found on the interwebz. My Hitachi 79 drive is flashed with the ixtreme 1.4 8x firmware using my key. I have never played on live, but when i was looking to download some demos, it wouldn't allow me on, and said i was banned.
So obviously there's some sorta logging on these systems, and I don't think a hard-drive would matter. I have a hard-drive, but i think that mabey there's some sorta onboard memory that they use to store memory, OR somehow they detected the firmware.
Any ideas?
Was your 360 flashed straight from virgin to 1.4? Did you have the network cable plugged in while playing your backup?
hi
At first i have to say sorry for my bad english which will follow. But as you will see, i´m not a native speaker.
I have some questions about flashing my xbox and doing copies of my games.
I have a Benq Drive. I don´t know if I understod you correctly.
The best thing I could do, is to use the iXtrem 1.4.1 firmware. Is this correct?
But there is something I didn´t understand.
The best way to make a copy is to use a Samsung drive. Wich samsung do you mean? An original XBox Samsung? Or a Samsung with Kreon firmware?
When it is a original XBox drive: where can i get such drive?
mfg D_v_P
Yes they mean a samsung MS 28 from the xbox console. It needs to be flashed with the one of the first firmwares in order to show up in windows...
There has been a lot of posts about this, so read around...
Althought the MS28 gives better results than Kreon flashes PC drive, if you are running > iXtreme 1.4 there should be no advantage in using the original drive to make your backups......
if you are interested see
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=632202
So, I have 1.4 on my drive. Am I safe (for the most part)?
QUOTE(brightshadow525 @ Jan 22 2008, 04:21 PM)
So, I have 1.4 on my drive. Am I safe (for the most part)?
Your safe until the next ban wave. If you play your backups offline then your more likely NOT to get banned but if you play them online you run the risk of being banned.
Can i just follow geebee`s tutorial when flashing samsung drive with iextreme 1.4? Or is there an easier way to do it? Dosflash32 perhaps?
I was banned on the December 15/16th band wave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . My drive was a Toshiba-Samsung using a Xtreme 53 firmware. I used this version at the time because I wanted the versatility of backup and play backup through my console. I initially used iXtreme 1.2 before the Xtreme 53. I played 2 backups online Halo3 and COD4. I later found my SS was incorrect on my COD4. I also left my ethernet plugged in all the time. I never did do the iXtreme 1.4. A friend of mine has a Hitachi 79 with iXtreme 1.2 and passed the last 3 bandwaves. I asked him if he was banned yet today and here is the reply I got.
[20:14] xxxx: still unbanned
[20:14] xxxx: i think you got banned by mistake
[20:14] xxxx: MS was banning people on accident
[20:14] xxxx: i play halo3/COD4 and im good
[20:14] xxxx: i unplug ethernet on all other game
I just recently sold my banned console in it's current state to my cousin who doesn't care to play online. I then purchased another Xbox 360 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and got lucky and ended up with another Toshiba-Samsung. This time around I am flashing iXtreme 1.4 and plan to do the following from here on out.
1.) Never leave ethernet plugged into console unless playing a properly stealthed and SS applied correctly.
2.) I will use the latest iXtreme firmwares only.
3.) Always verify my backups using XBC's verify feature and Mulleter to check CRC against online database.
I will come back to this thread and give an update periodically and share any news or findings.
This post has been edited by Bossbollin: Jan 27 2008, 07:28 AM
What i must do to play xbox1 games to my xbox360 with samsung ms28 ixtreme 1.4 firmware.
It is very important to write the game to dual layer dvd disc? If i write it to one single layer dvd disc and the game support it by combability list it can't play in ixtreme 1.4 firmware?
A lot of thanks.
Cool Cool. Good work and good info. But we still have to throw away our bad burns extracted with Kreon. I mean this firmware is only to not return a bad value but it wont fix our bad kreon backups.
Is it worth updating from ixtreme 1.2 if I'm sure I'm not using bad-kreon rips. Is the tool released by commodor4eva still the best way to check for bad kreon rips? Thanks.
This post has been edited by skidude2121: Jan 31 2008, 01:25 AM
QUOTE(dark84 @ Jan 30 2008, 04:14 PM)
Cool Cool. Good work and good info. But we still have to throw away our bad burns extracted with Kreon. I mean this firmware is only to not return a bad value but it wont fix our bad kreon backups.
It's been stated that there's no such thing as "bad Kreon" at all, never was. Read this.
This post has been edited by Toddler: Jan 31 2008, 06:44 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Jan 30 2008, 09:37 PM)
It's been stated that there's no such thing as "bad Kreon" at all, never was. Read
this.
So I take it there is no reason to update?
Problem Hitachi-LG Model GDR 3120L, ROM VER 0079FL.
Who will assist on replacement of a program part, I cannot find the necessary material.
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QUOTE(skidude2121 @ Jan 31 2008, 06:26 AM)
So I take it there is no reason to update?
Yes, there is a reason to update and is why v1.4 was released. Stop being lazy and update already.
Caster.
What happens if you get INVALID on a game when using Mulleter? that means i cant use it online? ive only used it once online then read about the ban wave and havent used it again. It got good on kreon checker though before i updated my 360 to 1.4
Thanks,
Kurt
QUOTE(skidude2121 @ Jan 31 2008, 05:26 AM)
So I take it there is no reason to update?
Of course there is a reason to update, and I gave you the link which should have made things pretty clear, but here we go again. It's a common misconception that the 1.4 firmware compensates for bad disc angle values in the Kreon rips, when in truth the problem was actually a calculation error in all prior versions of the firmware. Kreon rips led to the serendipitous discovery of the calculation bug, but Samsung rips also produce the same values, albeit less often.
QUOTE(kurrrrt @ Jan 31 2008, 03:26 PM)
What happens if you get INVALID on a game when using Mulleter?
The Mulleter messages are incredibly cryptic. INVALID just means the game is in the database, but your particular pressing of the game isn't. If you rip it twice and use the Stealth Uploader each time, you should be able to validate the pressing and see it added to the database. If you don't happen to have the original to rip it again...well, then there's not much more to discuss here.
Can anyone tell me if flashing the BenQ VAD6038 is possible with the following chipset : NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra?
Thanks so much !!
I think it is because in the readme file of the dosflash 1.3beta says that the chipset that support is via and nforce.
Do the Hitachi Drives in any way still have disadvantages regarding Live security compared to Samsung/BenQ when flashed with ixtreme 1.4 ?
What does a Hitachi Drive with 1.4 on it report, if a badly stealthed backup is inserted?
Hi All,
I am a bit newbie in concerning to 78fk.
I have flashed my older drive (guess 47) a year ago, but could not get through on my nephew's x360.
Steps I took:
- I hooked it up to a PC.
- booted up with slax (setting to modeb message was displayed in order)
- rebooted the PC with the reboot command (as the PC does not have reset button)
- the PC booted up to windows but it was very slow when I tried to open an explorer (explorer frozen all the times, at least it looked like)
- started the toolbox
- started the dump. The drive was identified in order with a drive letter, and the app was able to recognize it
it was not reacting to the eject button in the app. And the drive has no built in hardware eject button, only the one on the x360 motherboard. So I could not get further.
The sata device is a PCI VIA 6421L.
Please help me if possible, what am I doing wrong?
I watched the video, which was linked in the tutorial. It was mentioning that the guy is pressing the eject button on the drive.
Is this button on the motherboard also?
I am getting totally confused, and wasted several hours yesterday evening with it.
Thanx in advance
SBB
This post has been edited by Agent SBB: Feb 10 2008, 01:03 PM
Well, the issue is solved. Had to press the hw button on the motherboard.
QUOTE(smokeydabear @ Feb 6 2008, 12:52 AM)
Can anyone tell me if flashing the BenQ VAD6038 is possible with the following chipset : NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra?
Thanks so much !!
Yeah ive got that chipset and it worked fine with my friends Benq.
So correct me if i'm wrong...
say, i had a legit backup that gave the Kreon Check error.. and one day, it eventually got me banned...
with this 1.4 firmware it would be safe to play that disc once again? -- assuming it still passes all the recent stealth checks.
QUOTE(SpankyShazmik @ Feb 12 2008, 07:59 PM)
So correct me if i'm wrong...
say, i had a legit backup that gave the Kreon Check error.. and one day, it eventually got me banned...
with this 1.4 firmware it would be safe to play that disc once again? -- assuming it still passes all the recent stealth checks.
Yes. Kreon Check is outmoded now with 1.4, disc jitter is automatically corrected before it is sent and unproperly stealthed backups will not run, so you should be "safe," at least, as safe as it gets to be using modified firmware. No one guarantees you won't be banned again though.
FACT:
With all my devices connected to my pc the write hacked firmware to benq drive it bring me a lot of write errors.
When i disconect all my devices of my pc exept xbox360 benq drive the write procedure works perfect.
QUESTION:
If i don't unpluged my devices from my pc and only disable the controllers from bios menu of my motherboard it work the write procedure fine just like it worked with all my devices unpluged?
A lot of thanks
fits,
if you disable everything then you should be fine. When dosflash sees other devices (specifically other cd-rom's) it spazzes out and will try to pull firmware off of everything. Disabling it should do the trick.
hope this helps.
Just to add a couple of people have said they unplug everything. I took out all my drives including IDE drives to flash it. Worked first time no issues nothing though turned on the 360 and it read it straight away.
Kurt
QUOTE(matycon @ Feb 14 2008, 07:48 AM)
fits,
if you disable everything then you should be fine. When dosflash sees other devices (specifically other cd-rom's) it spazzes out and will try to pull firmware off of everything. Disabling it should do the trick.
hope this helps.
Are you sure? do you try it? And finally do you have any problem flashing the benq with all devices pluged in.
A lot of thanks.
I personally have had no problems leaving everything connected and enabled (three internal DVD drives, five internal hard drives). The only downside is the potential for confusion. But I know others have needed to disable BIOS devices and even pull the power completely from certain drives before they could get it working properly.
The person's that needin to disable all devices from bios menu of motherboard what problems has before it disable all the devices and after the disable work all fine without unplug any device.
A lot of thanks.
huh?
Can anyone tell me if flashing the BenQ VAD6038 is possible with the following chipset : Intel 82801EB onboard?
Thanks
Does anyone know the stock read speed of the Benq drive?
i recently did my drive with 1.4 12x and my drive is pretty loud, Now normally the 12x is going above and beyond the normal stock read speeds right? I tried the slower speeds way back when ixtreme first came out and what not and they made my games chop and lag a bit so just out of curiosity how does 8x work for you guys? im thinking about switching to 8x but I dont want to end up seeing everything chop up because it reads to slow again.
QUOTE(Mike46669 @ Feb 29 2008, 06:45 AM)
Does anyone know the stock read speed of the Benq drive?
i recently did my drive with 1.4 12x and my drive is pretty loud, Now normally the 12x is going above and beyond the normal stock read speeds right? I tried the slower speeds way back when ixtreme first came out and what not and they made my games chop and lag a bit so just out of curiosity how does 8x work for you guys? im thinking about switching to 8x but I dont want to end up seeing everything chop up because it reads to slow again.
12x is stock speed
I myself use the 5x speed, nice and quiet, i notice no hickups in games
I never had any problem flashing drives with everything connected in my PC. Even one of my hard drives is connected to my Via 6421 and yet i'm still able to do what's needed.
Hi,
I have a hitachi stock XBOX.
Would it be safe to flash it? or a ban is ensued if I run live?
Thanks
Newbie here-My apologies in advance for this question - where is the firmwear? Samsung
no flames please
bilbo
QUOTE(bilbo1221 @ Mar 21 2008, 06:00 AM)
Newbie here-My apologies in advance for this question - where is the firmwear? Samsung
no flames please
bilbo
"the usual places"
However if you read the Rules you would know that asking for warez is not tolerated and might get you banned so just use google...
I use 8x and seems quiet for me and no lag in any games (GHIII, COD4, FIFA08, etc...!) I was debating this as well but the stock speed of 12x is beyond what we need well to me at least.
QUOTE(cypher21 @ Feb 29 2008, 09:30 AM)
12x is stock speed
I myself use the 5x speed, nice and quiet, i notice no hickups in games
Was using 8x, didn't seem to lag but noticed that I was getting into games A LOT later than I should have been. For example, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, I would miss out on the first round because everybody got in before I did.
Is there a thread out there about CURRENT bans?
I think it would be great if there was a thread that was current with banning. I don't play on live often with my backups but if and when I do I'd like to be able to visit a link or thread to see if I will be okay.
Basically, something to tell me... "Do not go onto live... M$ detected the latest firmware" or something along those lines.
... or perhaps a thread already exists that I overlooked?
Thanks in advance.
What's the latest firmware I could put on my Hitachi 78fk?
QUOTE(SycoraX @ Apr 17 2008, 05:02 PM)
What's the latest firmware I could put on my Hitachi 78fk?
Look on Xbins FTP for the most upto date firmware version for your drive.
ATM iXtreme 1.4 is the latest.
I'm hoping someone can answer my question.
I have an 0079FK Xbox Elite.
I installed Firmware ixtreme 1.4 following this method and the toolbox told me that the flash was successful.
Now when I put backup games in my xbox360 they are not recognized. Regular games have no problem playing.
The only way I can get backup games to be recognized is the trick described HERE.
Am I always going to have to do this reboot trick or is there something I missed in the original firmware flash?
So has anyone been banned running this firmware?
Also, sorry to double post, but is this the Xtreme Online firmware update I've read about?
QUOTE(MrEcks @ Apr 26 2008, 04:24 AM)
So has anyone been banned running this firmware?
Someone else asked a similar question a few posts up too.. I think people fail to do their research and that microsoft bans in waves. They don't ban on fly. They sit back for several months, gather your date, when WHAM! A big chunk of people get banned at the same time when its too late to do anything about it (which to be honest, I think is more effect then the only fly banning on the old XBOX).
1.4 came out after the last banwave, they haven't attempted another banwave since (i don't think?). The tend do them around dashboard updates (sortof).. we're probably due for one.
From MS's point of view, it'd be stupid to ban on fly, it clues people in quicker to what changed, and what causes the bans.. when they ban in waves they can gather lots of intel before people figure it out.
Interesting. This is something that seems pretty interesting and I'd like to do it, but I can't afford another Xbox in the event that I get banned, I'll have to wait a few weeks until I get home from school and start my internship this Summer before playing with anything.
for the benq owners should we use this firmware or the Benq firmware 1.4.1
thanks
Simple question:
I have ixtreme 1.4 on my 78fk drive, all my discs have been checked with Xdvd and are all stealth. Is it safe to go online for now until the next banwave? I wanna play GTA IV online but nobody has talked about going online with it since Rockstar are tracking shit.
QUOTE(Kurt Cobain @ Apr 30 2008, 07:48 PM)
I wanna play GTA IV online but nobody has talked about going online with it since Rockstar are tracking shit.
If you have a BenQ drive, you'd have to play GTA4 from the original disc, since AFAIK all BenQ's currently have serious issues with GTA4 backups.
I wonder if this problem can be addressed in the future releases of iXtreme. Is it even technically possible?
Are you sure? I thought BenQ owners were just getting slower loads and more popups than some of the other drives?
Well in fact MUCH more popups, so much it makes chases almost unplayable. Driving a sportcar you can easily lose sight of the road itself - that's a serious issue in my book
i have a benq with 1.41 and have the original gta and a backup of it (made using XBC and a samsung ms28 drive) and there is very little difference between the originalgame and the backup, maybe a slightly longer load time on the backup but definitely there is no more popups on the backup than with the original.
QUOTE(jamiem1987 @ May 7 2008, 04:54 PM)
i have a benq with 1.41 and have the original gta and a backup of it (made using XBC and a samsung ms28 drive) and there is very little difference between the originalgame and the backup, maybe a slightly longer load time on the backup but definitely there is no more popups on the backup than with the original.
Same here. Slightly longer load times, but nothing where my car outruns the DVD drive
QUOTE(ImmortalZ @ May 7 2008, 04:05 PM)
Same here. Slightly longer load times, but nothing where my car outruns the DVD drive
Hi..
My backup of GTA4 runs perfekt on my benq too, no prob at all. I am using 1TEK media burned at 8x.
with pioneer 112.
On my BenQ the load time for backups is about 2x longer than original, and as I said there are much more popups and texture loading issues.
I have two backups, made with XBC 2.8, one on L-Pro and the other on Verbatim media, the writer is Lite-On SOHW-1653S, at 2.4x.
QUOTE(Roponor @ May 8 2008, 09:14 AM)
On my BenQ the load time for backups is about 2x longer than original, and as I said there are much more popups and texture loading issues.
I have two backups, made with XBC 2.8, one on L-Pro and the other on Verbatim media, the writer is Lite-On SOHW-1653S, at 2.4x.
im using verbs dvd+r dl like i said above with no problems whatsoever, using a pioneer 111l maybe try a different writer?
hi, sorry for asking a n00b question but is it possible to play on xbox live when u install this firmware and patch the backed up games?
Hi,
Is there a dedicated GTA4 thread on this forum to address this issue? Because after I flashed from xtreme firmware 5.2b to ixtreme 1.4 @ 8x, i noticed some very seldom freezing lasting at the most 2-3 seconds while driving through the city. I just flashed it again to 5x to see if that'll help. The textures and the weapons/restaurants do take a couple seconds to load up. It's not too much of an annoyance, but i rather prefer loading than an occasion random freezing while driving since it'll i believe hamper gameplay, especially during a chase scene....
after googling around, i didnt realize that there is a known freezing issue for both xbox 360 & ps3. the only solution i came across is clearing the cache. But after reading some reports, it seems to be dealing with only systems that have hard drives. I'm using the memory card. I don't know if this will help, but I'll give it a shot. here's the link on how to do it if any is curious:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/09/xbox-360...ode-discovered/
Any suggestions/ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
This post has been edited by MaXeEmOe: May 17 2008, 04:55 PM
i was using a pioneer 111d dvdrw and i got a cheap phillips dvdrw for my ladys laptop, well guess what the phillips has burnt loads of games 100% all working, but with the poineer it only worked 95% of the time
lordmash
i also had a 360 that rrod 2 days after i fixed it, i wont read proper so i changed the len and adjusted the pots well guess what it was brillant it booted faster and i could use any media , i was using a-one printables, now i've got a new box i need to swap the drives or adjust the pots, is there a chance m$ set the pots bad to make it hard to read some media's, just an idea, as if you've ever done the pots you'll know how much differnce it makes
lordmash
big thx for your work ...
the original post says "maximus will release a new firmware shortly for 78/79 devices" but I don't see that released.
My new xbox is a 79FL anyone know if this firmware is ok to use with it?
Thanks!
Yes, iXtreme 1.4 is right for ALL drives.
This post has been edited by XmodsUK: Aug 2 2008, 09:01 PM
is there any way to make ixtreme 1.4 firmware in vista x64
This may be a stupid question and or in the wrong area to be asking in. i dont know why im not getting it but i noticed in the FIRMWARE TOOLBOX V4.8 has and added feature; "Ixtreme 1.4 No-Check Bit firmware for 79 Drives" what exactly is this? and is it something that we need to be worried about?
is there a verison for the lite-on drive , because some people claim that they can mod the lite-on drive( written in the lite-on drive section last page or page 198
QUOTE(brianzx @ Aug 31 2008, 10:56 AM)
is there a verison for the lite-on drive , because some people claim that they can mod the lite-on drive( written in the lite-on drive section last page or page 198
As far as i know you cant flash the lite-on drive you can dump the firmware an spoof another drive e.g. hitachi spoofed as lite-on considering nobody thought this could be done i thinks there has been a hell of a lot of progress in the past week on all of this.
QUOTE(Toro0010 @ Aug 31 2008, 10:52 AM)
This may be a stupid question and or in the wrong area to be asking in. i dont know why im not getting it but i noticed in the FIRMWARE TOOLBOX V4.8 has and added feature; "Ixtreme 1.4 No-Check Bit firmware for 79 Drives" what exactly is this? and is it something that we need to be worried about?
I would also like to know about this
Its so you flash it and never need the passkey again.
But whats that you said?
Yes, correct, you dont need the passkey in the first place.
QUOTE(OggyUK @ Sep 2 2008, 05:12 AM)
Its so you flash it and never need the passkey again.
But whats that you said?
Yes, correct, you dont need the passkey in the first place.
thats a good idea
just a question, can u use the 79 to make images on ur computer?
QUOTE(Toro0010 @ Aug 31 2008, 03:52 AM)
This may be a stupid question and or in the wrong area to be asking in. i dont know why im not getting it but i noticed in the FIRMWARE TOOLBOX V4.8 has and added feature; "Ixtreme 1.4 No-Check Bit firmware for 79 Drives" what exactly is this? and is it something that we need to be worried about?
Same here, I'm curious about that feature.. I flashed my 0079FL hitachi without the "No-Check" bit... just the regular iXtreme 1.4
Sometimes I wonder if my posts are invisible to others on this board.
QUOTE
Its so you flash it and never need the passkey again.
But whats that you said?
Yes, correct, you dont need the passkey in the first place.
A whopping 2 posts above yours, and quoted in the post above yours!
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This may be a stupid question and or in the wrong area to be asking in. i dont know why im not getting it but i noticed in the FIRMWARE TOOLBOX V4.8 has and added feature; "Ixtreme 1.4 No-Check Bit firmware for 79 Drives" what exactly is this? and is it something that we need to be worried about?
Just to clarify for anyone still confused and as Oggy quite rightly pointed out the 79's used to be so difficult to read/write too because of a single bit which basically blocked access to the firmware, the passkey reset this bit obviously making it hackable, however, podgers softmod technique does exactly the same thing without the need for soldering on a passkey.. the release of FWTB 4.8 and the answer to your questions is that this new firmware permanently resets the bit meaning you don't need the passkey but like oggy said... we dont anyway! (hope that makes sense)
my question is.... does it now mean that we don't need to do the unlock section of podgers technique (i.e putting in the audio CD and running 79unlock or will flashing with FWTB 4.8 put it in a permanently unlocked state as it seems to suggest??
This post has been edited by bencrinkle: Sep 2 2008, 11:45 AM
I am having trouble flashing my drive on my 64 bit system. I have searched around, but I haven't found any solutions.. Does any one know a way to get the flashing utility to work on a 64 bit system? I do not have any other machines available to use.
I was just curious, If my xbox360 is modded with ixtreme 1.4 and I have a bad ss.bin on one of my backups is it safe to go on live with it or should I patch it with ss patcher? Some people say to dont use ss patcher, is this program safe to use as well?
QUOTE(Arakon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:07 AM)
if you have a bad SS, ixtreme will not even play the game. however, you are ALWAYS at a risk of being banned if you don't use the SS dumped from your own original.
If I use the ss patcher on a bad ss.bin and re insert it into the .iso will I be ok on live or will I be at risk of getting banned from live meaning if I use it on an xbox with ixtreme 1.2 or 1.4.
has the lite-on firmware released yet?
QUOTE(Arakon @ Sep 13 2008, 08:33 AM)
the firmware hasn't even been dumped, how the fuck would there be a hacked one? if you hold your breath for a hacked firmware, you'll have choked to death long before it comes out.
the firmware has been dumped it just has not been hacked yet because theres no way to flash the firmware however it is possible to spoof another hacked drive to have a nice new modded system
Hi guys,
Sorry on noob question, but what exactly is SS?
If I use the ss patcher on a bad ss.bin and re insert it into the .iso will I be ok on live or will I be at risk of getting banned from live meaning if I use it on an xbox with ixtreme 1.2 or 1.3.Some people say dont use sspatcher, why? Can someone please explain?
SS = security sector.
If you're not sure, make another bkp. It's also advisable to update to the latest firmware, especially if you go online (almost mandatory).
Also, if you don't want, or can't afford, to be banned don't use bkps online - that is rule number 1.
The 'ball' is on M$ side (most of the time!) and we don't know how they'll play it...
For what we can tell, if they CAN check if your console as a sticker on it and if that violates the terms of service they can/will ban you. Simple.
QUOTE(darkshadow2k8 @ Sep 14 2008, 07:51 AM)
the firmware has been dumped it just has not been hacked yet because theres no way to flash the firmware however it is possible to spoof another hacked drive to have a nice new modded system
..the firmware has NOT been dumped.
the key and the ID strings only. not the firmware.
Just thought I'd FYI every1 that the ban hammer struck me last Friday. Brand new 360 (BenQ) bought two weeks ago and flashed with iXtreme 1.41. Also, I only play backups I make and verify.
Watch out
I have iXtreme 1.4
Should I be aware of Bad Kreon Rips?
Some people say that in this version of firmware it doesn't matter some say it does...
QUOTE(ICEFIR3 @ Sep 15 2008, 10:23 PM)
Just thought I'd FYI every1 that the ban hammer struck me last Friday. Brand new 360 (BenQ) bought two weeks ago and flashed with iXtreme 1.41. Also, I only play backups I make and verify.
Watch out
Has anyone gotten Banned its kinda wierd that its a benq drive I thought they were coming out with the new light on that wasnt moddable yet?
I agree, I too thought it was only Lite-ons coming out now. Where did you get a new Benq?
And if you were banned last week, why did it take you a full week to post about it?
Hi!
1.4 is the lastest version of iXtreme?
Thanks
QUOTE(Kyaneos @ Sep 25 2008, 09:50 PM)
Hi!
1.4 is the lastest version of iXtreme?
Thanks
yes it is
OK I think ive decided to mod my 360 but just want to make sure of some stuff first...so
if I play a RETAIL disc in a modded drive and im connected to live can i get banned? or should i just not connect period. I dont want to take any risks.
And if I restore my firmware to original than MS will have no way of knowing I ever modded their crap right? good as new?
QUOTE(aeroshock @ Oct 9 2008, 06:45 AM)
OK I think ive decided to mod my 360 but just want to make sure of some stuff first...so
if I play a RETAIL disc in a modded drive and im connected to live can i get banned? or should i just not connect period. I dont want to take any risks.
And if I restore my firmware to original than MS will have no way of knowing I ever modded their crap right? good as new?
You take your chances. Noone here works for MS so we cant say how you get banned. You take the risk if you play online.
I know its risky to play backups online but I was under the impression youre fine if you connect to live as long as you dont have a backup game inserted? Or is no one for sure?
HI, after reading through the .txt file in the fwpack folder I see this
XX.bin is original
XX_16-?x.bin is Hacked (Media detect 2.0)
XX_16s.bin is Hacked and Firwmare STEALTH (Media detect 2.0)
I will be working with the hitachi 79 drive and notice there are a few different firmwares, but none of them have the "s" on the end. Does this mean my fw won't be stealth? I'm a bit confused
I haven't been on xbox live for a about a year.
I don't want to rip my xbox apart again to upgrade unless it is really necessary.
I still run ixtreme 1.2. I read all the release notes for 1.3 and 1.4.
Is it really advisable to upgrade in order to play on xbox live with backups?
In other words: is 1.4 less detectable then 1.2? Or will 1.2 be just fine?
Thx in advance!
QUOTE(zoocircle @ Oct 11 2008, 03:23 PM)
HI, after reading through the .txt file in the fwpack folder I see this
XX.bin is original
XX_16-?x.bin is Hacked (Media detect 2.0)
XX_16s.bin is Hacked and Firwmare STEALTH (Media detect 2.0)
I will be working with the hitachi 79 drive and notice there are a few different firmwares, but none of them have the "s" on the end. Does this mean my fw won't be stealth? I'm a bit confused
I am pretty sure the iextreme for all versions will work with this even the 78/79 but need someone to confirm as I have a 78 on the way so I haven't flashed yet. However everything I have read looks like it should.
QUOTE(pinxt @ Oct 21 2008, 01:27 PM)
Anybody?
you should upgrade to ixtreme 1.4. this compensates for a potential bug related to an invalid disc angle being reported. this is something that microsoft can detect. the future update from 1.4 to 1.5 is rumored to only be important if you are spoofing a drive from a different maker than the drive that came with your system.
if i were you, i would upgrade to 1.4 now, and just keep eye out for new developments.
Does this work on the 78/79 or do I need to use the Maximus?
now what happens if I have to drives one hack, the other clean, and switch between them when playing online? the flashed firmware is in the drive itself so they wouldn't know right?
QUOTE(ssyoda @ Oct 27 2008, 10:51 PM)
I know this might sound like a stupid question but can someone please tell me if anyone has been banned with the ixtreme 1.4. firmware?
not that i am aware of. i haven't been banned (ixtreme 1.4 user on a benq, using the drive that came with the system), and haven't read any stories of people being banned with ixtreme 1.4
QUOTE(jorcasce @ Oct 29 2008, 04:51 PM)
now what happens if I have to drives one hack, the other clean, and switch between them when playing online? the flashed firmware is in the drive itself so they wouldn't know right?
more trouble than its worth, and it might not make a difference. microsoft could potentially see the hacked drive while you are offline, and make a note of it, then have your system turn you in when you connect to live. (for a similar example, look at their harddrive promotion. many people with arcade systems went to get a cheap harddrive, only to find out that the system was aware that at one point, a harddrive was connected to the system, and this altered the console id)
hiya folks i have decided to flash my xbox with the benq 1.4xtreme version.. ive gone through the process and just doing a check on my usb drive but it seems to be hanging or frozen on status 0x73 .. i turn off and turn on and turned off and tried again and i get the same error ive even put the xbox back together again (partly) to make sure thats ok and it is.. i have even flashed the usb stick again to make sure that ok but it still hangs on status 0x73 .. this is only the read part of the firmware and haven't actually gone to the flashing part because this seems wrong to me.. anyone got any ideas what it could be ..
Thanx
QUOTE(kraigh98 @ Nov 4 2008, 07:35 PM)
hiya folks i have decided to flash my xbox with the benq 1.4xtreme version.. ive gone through the process and just doing a check on my usb drive but it seems to be hanging or frozen on status 0x73 .. i turn off and turn on and turned off and tried again and i get the same error ive even put the xbox back together again (partly) to make sure thats ok and it is.. i have even flashed the usb stick again to make sure that ok but it still hangs on status 0x73 .. this is only the read part of the firmware and haven't actually gone to the flashing part because this seems wrong to me.. anyone got any ideas what it could be ..
Thanx
try changing your sata port on your mobo, I had a similar problem where it just hung like that too.
was yours onboard or a sata card installed.. mines a card i bought
Mine is onboard
do you know how i change the port for the onboard card
just looked on the bios and looked at sata devices configuration and it says
Serial-ata devices Devices 0/1/2 it was 0/1
nvidia raid function disabled
what i mean by changing the port is just putting the sata cable into another sata port, my mobo has two ports. One would get stuck on the similar error as you, when i changed the cable to the other port, all went fine. not sure how many ports are on that card but if there's more than one, try the others.
no theres only one port on the card.. :-(
i have found another port on the card and doesn't seem to make any difference still hanging and now it says 0x7F
how exactly are you preparing your usb stick?
are you sure your ports are being seen in iprep, meaning they show up green not orange?
QUOTE(Refferehtom @ Nov 5 2008, 02:41 AM)
how exactly are you preparing your usb stick?
are you sure your ports are being seen in iprep, meaning they show up green not orange?
yeah its seen on iprep as green just one question now ive managed to do it flash the drive and get a datasum message .. is that it now all done..
now when i try to boot pc i get no boot device ..when i flashed the xbox drive i made sure the leads were out and that the devices weren't showing in bios also i only had the usb device showing.. now when i come to turn pc on it doesn't recognise theres a hard drive only my dvd drives :-( .. what can i do
any help really appreciate right now :-)
its ok i managed to sort it by clearing the cmos battery for a few seconds .. strange ehh
QUOTE(kraigh98 @ Nov 5 2008, 07:00 AM)
yeah its seen on iprep as green just one question now ive managed to do it flash the drive and get a datasum message .. is that it now all done..
Yup, once you get that data sum message, you're good to go.
My 1st xbox, which was flashed, got the E74 error. Thus, i got a refurbished set back from MS due to warrenty.
So i've just got my 360 flashed by this guy in which I've found on the net. Went over to his house, got it done, here i am now. Tot that i can just game peacefully without any stupid problem happily ever after, but i was wrong!
The problem now is that, seems like im having problem reading/detecting almost half of my back ups right now. They either hang after loading form the dashboard (u know, stuck at the black screen), or the "unreadable disc" error pops up. Sometime the back ups arent even detectable in the drive!(the disc was inserted, but the option "open tray" was still available on the screen)
My drive is BenQ, and yes, he flashed my drive with ixtreme 1.4, with 8x speed. Before that he tried flashing it with 1.5, but it was the same, as i brought along one of my back ups to test, and several times (bout 8 out of 10 time) it shows the "disc unreadable" error.
So any idea guys? What exactly is wrong? My 1st xbox could read all those same back ups without any problem. Why cant this?
Help
Hi there, sounds exactly like something that happened to me, i got a Hitachi 0059DJ(Flashed with iXtreme 1.4 8x speed), quite old and it did the exact same thing, put a disc in and it still said "Open Tray", sometimes read my backups sometimes didnt, although i never got the "unreadable disc" error, i used to use Memmorex DL's, i now use Phillips DL's, works 100% fine with the drives now, i would say you got a bad DVD drive, either when he flashed it he swapped it or something i dont know, but sounds like a knackered drive to me because my spare 0059DJ does the same thing.
Hope this helps
Cheers
Thanks for the reply dude, really appreciate it
HE swapped mine?! Well if he really did, i swear to god he wont get to see 2009.
But seriously i dont think he will swap my drive because he had already done quite a lot of flashing for people, and so far i did not came across any complaints on his thread... plus, he seems pretty decent. In another words, i pretty trust him.
Well, since it's a refurbished set from MS, if the drive is really washed out, i suspect they are the culprit.
Could it be because of the running speed of the drive? If it's 12x as default, maybe it wont give me these problems? Maybe running the drive at 8x is the root of the problem? I dont know man...
Are there anything that i can conduct to find/ solve out what's the damn issue?
QUOTE(Toddler @ Dec 28 2008, 05:37 AM)
It's impossible to answer 100%, could be your media, your burner, your 360's laser, vertical vs. horizontal, etc. Please say you don't put sticky labels on your discs, that is a killer. There are pot tweaks you can do, but that's the last resort.
Well, after experimenting the discs myself, i think it's the media.... Ok, remember i said my previous xbox read those back ups with no problem? let the xbox be "X1". But there are back ups which X1 cant read, in which my "X2" can read.
So most probably it's the media? i certainly hope so!
whats the latest safest fw for the 79 drive? i know how to do it, but need to know what fw is the most up to date that will support the drive.
thanks
ps, i know 1.5 is comming shortly, but for the meantime i want to get it started and then just update it.
any idea as to when we will see 1.5 ixtreme for hitachi?
1st time mod'er here waiting for the 1.5 since it seems the safest.
Sorry if this has been asked before, I couldn't find it after a quick look at the FAQs and search. I got a launch xbox 360 from Japan with a samsung drive that I bought in south east asia almost 3 years ago(which is also where I am still living) so obviously it was modded from the start(there are no unmodded 360s or consoles of any kind on sale here). I never bothered with xbox live so far, internet here is usually slow and unreliable. But now that SF4 is out, I badly wanna play online and have found this message board. I will buy the game(I collect 2d beatemups), that is not the issue, but everyone keeps telling me the moment I would go online I would be banned, no matter if I play the original game or a copy, due to my modded dvd drive( i dunno which firmware I have but it is not iextreme). From what I can see, the iextreme firmware is what people are recommending but what I cannot see is what will happen if I play the original SF4 online, the whole discussion seems to focus on playing the copy using iextreme 1.4. Anyway, would be nice if someone could let me know about the risks and options I have now,
thanks,
Setebos
thanks in advance
ok Where is the firmware to download????????
or is that something thats illegal to do, cuz i searched and serched and serched these forums and cant find not one fireware so i can flash the xbox 360
Google xbins.
UPD and yes, that's illegal :>
so does this work with the phillips drive?
No.