Post by: Xbox-Scene on November 07, 2007, 08:03:00 PM
| A quick update for the VAD 6038 ixtreme firmware.. (v1.1) Multi-speed version allows for selecting what speed you wish your drive to operate at (2x-12x) Note: Users who do not know what to choose, 12x is 'fast' (noisy) 2x is 'slow' (quiet). Non-stealth version also included within this release. Official Site: n/a (by commodore4eva) Download: n/a (May be illegal under EULA/DMCA) News-Source: xbins.org |
Post by: Toddler on November 07, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
Samsungs don't have as many speed capabilities (hence the "fast" and "quiet" versions), and I think Hitachis can't be modified at all. So BenQ owners win yet again, with more options to choose from to suit your needs and preferences.
Here are my personal observations.
The simple testing I did was to see how long it took from clicking "Resume Saved Game" in Halo 3 until the game actually loaded. Here's what I found:
12x: Load time was 27 seconds, drive rotation noise was loud and constant, seek noise was mildly noticable.
8x: Load time was 29 seconds, drive rotation noise was slightly noticable, seek noise was mildly noticable.
5x: Load time was 30 seconds, drive rotation noise was completely silent, seek noise was nearly silent.
2x: Load time was 36 seconds, drive rotation noise was completely silent, seek noise was the loudest of all.
Based on the results, 5x was my sweet spot. Reads were fast, seek noise was a whisper and spin noise was silent. The 8x setting was much quieter than 12x, but still somewhat noticable.
With that said, every drive is different, and there is enough variance in hardware that while 5x might be my sweet spot, it may not be for everyone. I just can't imagine any reason to go below 5x because it is every bit as quiet as 2x and the seek is actually quieter, at least on my drive (and others have reported the same). I also can't imagine any reason to go with 12x because the speed isn't appreciably faster, whereas the noise level is definitely intrusive.
If you are reluctant to try anything other than 12x because you think it is the "right" speed, keep in mind that the drive is meant to throttle down to slower speeds as needed. The max speed is 12x, but it's not always reading at 12x. And slower speeds often mean less wear-and-tear on the drive, as well as helping to read less-than-perfect media.
I should also mention that I played 5 minutes of Gears of War and an entire level of Halo 3 with the 2x firmware and had no problems.
This post has been edited by Toddler: Nov 8 2007, 04:11 AM
Post by: dvsone on November 07, 2007, 08:41:00 PM
Post by: halo_kingslayer on November 07, 2007, 08:42:00 PM
Post by: Lush on November 07, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
Its official... The Benq now has the best hacked firmware....
Post by: halo_kingslayer on November 07, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
Either way no biggie, thanks a lot C4EVA keep up the great work!
Post by: hebda600 on November 07, 2007, 09:55:00 PM
Does the faster(12X) speed give some backups lag? I noticed playing Medal of Honor Airborne some maps were a bit choppy.
Thanks
Post by: lord^infamous on November 07, 2007, 10:34:00 PM
Post by: halo_kingslayer on November 07, 2007, 11:20:00 PM
Post by: phoenixdigital on November 08, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
I just bought a new xbox360 in australia 2 weeks ago and it was manufactured in sept 2006... I was hoping that we would be getting these newer benq units but it appears we still have a crapload of old stock still in the country...
I am hoping to mod it soon but am going to wait too see what the fallout of the fall update is with regards to firmware mods (pardon the pun)... Hopefully it comes pretty soon.....
It better have xvid too.... TVersity is a very clunky way to watch xvids in my opinion...
Post by: pinkerton on November 08, 2007, 03:01:00 AM
Or is this still a feature of the Ixtreme firmware?
Post by: Rockman on November 08, 2007, 03:31:00 AM
QUOTE(pinkerton @ Nov 8 2007, 05:01 AM) 
Wont changing the default speed of the drive make it detectable by MS?
Or is this still a feature of the Ixtreme firmware?
That's what I want to know. Also I've noticed some people say that using a lower speed on the drive via firmware hack can damage the laser overtime. Is this true? I thought it would be the other way around? Anyways I hope it will be safe because I love this new FW. 360 is super quiet now and no longer sounds like a jet engine ready for take off.
Post by: Carlitosbaby on November 08, 2007, 03:28:00 AM
QUOTE(pinkerton @ Nov 8 2007, 06:01 AM) 
Wont changing the default speed of the drive make it detectable by MS?
Or is this still a feature of the Ixtreme firmware?
The 360 slows it self down anyways to 8x or 5x with original software so I doubt they will check as if you have an original with sctarhes original firmware will slow it down so microsoft would be banning anyone who has a scracthed disc.
Post by: Toddler on November 08, 2007, 03:56:00 AM
QUOTE(Rockman @ Nov 8 2007, 04:31 AM)
That's what I want to know. Also I've noticed some people say that using a lower speed on the drive via firmware hack can damage the laser overtime. Is this true?
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on November 08, 2007, 05:21:00 AM
You helped out big time last night for my BenQ flashing and you come out with this wicked post - Will be playing around to see which works best for me
Post by: penguinofdoom564 on November 08, 2007, 05:48:00 AM
I've got mine working with 1.1 Fast right now and it's much louder than before. If it can be quieter and almost the same speed then I'm all for that. This will also give me an excuse to do a cable mod. Hopefully I can snag a male to female SATA at Fry's tomorrow.
Post by: Epps on November 08, 2007, 06:43:00 AM
Oh well, my 59DJ will have to continue speeding along at 12x
Post by: drowsy on November 08, 2007, 06:50:00 AM
Thanks
This post has been edited by drowsy: Nov 8 2007, 02:51 PM
Post by: caster420 on November 08, 2007, 06:28:00 AM
QUOTE(drowsy @ Nov 8 2007, 08:50 AM)
Can anyone direct me to a good post where flashing BenQ is explained step by step please?
Thanks
Thanks
You can find a good tutorial here.
Caster.
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 08, 2007, 07:40:00 AM
QUOTE(phoenixdigital @ Nov 8 2007, 07:28 AM)
Is there a way to swap a hitachi for a benq? I would love to silence my 360...
I think so -
1. if you've already flashed your hitachi, open the .BIN file with a hex editor and grab the key from it. It should be 32 characters long.
2. Get your BenQ drive and read the firmware with DOSflash.
3. Run it through the ixtreme batch file to create your patched firmware.
4. Get a copy of 360 FW Toolbox 4.5 and open the newly patched firmware.
5. Paste your Hitachi key into the Key Information box and click on 'replace key'.
6. Click on Tools/Spoof Firmware and select the drive model and FW version of the one you're replacing it with. You'll get the message that the string detection has been changed. Click on OK.
7. Write your newly spoofed hacked firmware with DOSflash.
I haven't carried out the above steps myself, so can't vouch 100% if they would work. I know for sure thaqt FW Toolbox can open and manage the Benq firmware, so it's just a case of if the new firmware works ok!
Post by: TerminatR on November 08, 2007, 08:56:00 AM
Which drive is King? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2007, 03:55 AM)
For those who don't know, it bears explaining that there are actually four firmware versions in this package (12x/8x/5x/2x speeds), just choose whichever you prefer. The 12x is identical to what was formerly "fast" and 2x is what was "quiet" in the previous release. Obviously 8x and 5x fall somewhere in between.
Samsungs don't have as many speed capabilities (hence the "fast" and "quiet" versions), and I think Hitachis can't be modified at all. So BenQ owners win yet again, with more options to choose from to suit your needs and preferences.
Here are my personal observations.
The simple testing I did was to see how long it took from clicking "Resume Saved Game" in Halo 3 until the game actually loaded. Here's what I found:
12x: Load time was 27 seconds, drive rotation noise was loud and constant, seek noise was mildly noticable.
8x: Load time was 29 seconds, drive rotation noise was slightly noticable, seek noise was mildly noticable.
5x: Load time was 30 seconds, drive rotation noise was completely silent, seek noise was nearly silent.
2x: Load time was 36 seconds, drive rotation noise was completely silent, seek noise was the loudest of all.
Based on the results, 5x was my sweet spot. Reads were fast, seek noise was a whisper and spin noise was silent. The 8x setting was much quieter than 12x, but still somewhat noticable.
With that said, every drive is different, and there is enough variance in hardware that while 5x might be my sweet spot, it may not be for everyone. I just can't imagine any reason to go below 5x because it is every bit as quiet as 2x and the seek is actually quieter, at least on my drive (and others have reported the same). I also can't imagine any reason to go with 12x because the speed isn't appreciably faster, whereas the noise level is definitely intrusive.
If you are reluctant to try anything other than 12x because you think it is the "right" speed, keep in mind that the drive is meant to throttle down to slower speeds as needed. The max speed is 12x, but it's not always reading at 12x. And slower speeds often mean less wear-and-tear on the drive, as well as helping to read less-than-perfect media.
I should also mention that I played 5 minutes of Gears of War and an entire level of Halo 3 with the 2x firmware and had no problems.
This post has been edited by TerminatR: Nov 8 2007, 05:00 PM
Post by: Toddler on November 08, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
QUOTE(TerminatR @ Nov 8 2007, 09:56 AM)
Thanks for the super useful information. My only question is how do these BenQ timings compare to the Samsung and Hitachi drives?
Which drive is King? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
Depends on what criteria matters most to you. For me, it's not all about timings. In my book, the drive that is fast, reliable and completely silent is king, and that's the BenQ.
Post by: caster420 on November 08, 2007, 12:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 8 2007, 10:16 AM)
1. if you've already flashed your hitachi, open the .BIN file with a hex editor and grab the key from it. It should be 32 characters long.
2. Get your BenQ drive and read the firmware with DOSflash.
3. Run it through the ixtreme batch file to create your patched firmware.
4. Get a copy of 360 FW Toolbox 4.5 and open the newly patched firmware.
5. Paste your Hitachi key into the Key Information box and click on 'replace key'.
6. Click on Tools/Spoof Firmware and select the drive model and FW version of the one you're replacing it with. You'll get the message that the string detection has been changed. Click on OK.
7. Write your newly spoofed hacked firmware with DOSflash.
Here is what i would do..
1) Dump your firmware from your Benq called orig.bin
2) Put it in 'Fast' or 'Quiet' directory and run the 'Make iXtreme Firmware' command
3) Place your Hitachi original firmware (we'll call it hitorig.bin) in the appropriate 'Fast' or 'Quiet' folder
4) Open a command prompt window and goto that folder
5) Type: firmtool hitorig.bin benq-ix.bin
6) Flash benq-ix.bin to your BenQ drive
Caster.
This post has been edited by caster420: Nov 8 2007, 08:28 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 08, 2007, 12:33:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 8 2007, 07:27 PM)
Here is what i would do..
1) Dump your firmware from your Benq called orig.bin
2) Put it in 'Fast' or 'Quiet' directory and run the 'Make iXtreme Firmware' command
3) Place your Hitachi original firmware (we'll call it hitorig.bin) in the appropriate 'Fast' or 'Quiet' folder
4) Open a command prompt window and goto that folder
5) Type: firmtool hitorig.bin benq-ix.bin
6) Flash benq-ix.bin to your BenQ drive
Caster.
If I trusted batch files which spoofed drives and injected keys, I would too
Post by: MaHeSLO on November 08, 2007, 01:34:00 PM
Seems to work fine, except for the following:
In CoD4, for example, during loading of mission 'The Bog', I get a 'clean your disc' error. This seems rather strange, since the disc itself is spotless and it's a quality brand too (Verbatim DVD+R DL). XDVDMulleter confirmed my backup is completely okay.
Is it a firmware problem? Does anyone else with a similar setup experience similar issues?
Post by: caster420 on November 08, 2007, 01:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 8 2007, 03:09 PM)
If I trusted batch files which spoofed drives and injected keys, I would too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Uhhh... firmtool isnt a batch file and that is all the 'Make iXtreme Firmware' command calls. So, i'm not exactly sure what you're referring to...
Caster.
Post by: sportsgamer1984 on November 08, 2007, 01:09:00 PM
QUOTE(MaHeSLO @ Nov 8 2007, 09:34 PM)
I just installed my first hacked firmware, that being iXtreme @ 5x speed.
Seems to work fine, except for the following:
In CoD4, for example, during loading of mission 'The Bog', I get a 'clean your disc' error. This seems rather strange, since the disc itself is spotless and it's a quality brand too (Verbatim DVD+R DL). XDVDMulleter confirmed my backup is completely okay.
Is it a firmware problem? Does anyone else with a similar setup experience similar issues?
Were your Verbs made in India or Singapore? If India, it could be bad media but if they were made in Singapore, then it would be a cause for concern.
Post by: MaHeSLO on November 08, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
QUOTE(sportsgamer1984 @ Nov 8 2007, 09:45 PM)
Were your Verbs made in India or Singapore? If India, it could be bad media but if they were made in Singapore, then it would be a cause for concern.
It says Made in Singapore on the box ... Well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Post by: sirreco on November 08, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
QUOTE(MaHeSLO @ Nov 8 2007, 09:34 PM)
I just installed my first hacked firmware, that being iXtreme @ 5x speed.
Seems to work fine, except for the following:
In CoD4, for example, during loading of mission 'The Bog', I get a 'clean your disc' error. This seems rather strange, since the disc itself is spotless and it's a quality brand too (Verbatim DVD+R DL). XDVDMulleter confirmed my backup is completely okay.
Is it a firmware problem? Does anyone else with a similar setup experience similar issues? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I played a backup of CoD4 on Verbatim, using a 5x firmware and I had no problem what so ever. It is hard to tell what is exactly the problem you have, but I would bet it is somthing on the disk itself, try making another backup on another brand if possible, or test your disk on another XBOX, just to know for sure.
Regards
Post by: MaHeSLO on November 08, 2007, 02:34:00 PM
Post by: Apidya on November 08, 2007, 04:33:00 PM
Don't bother with the quiet version as the drive is unable to play game videos fast enough, resulting in them stuttering. 2x read is clearly not fast enough even when Verbatims written at 2.4x are used.
Flashing the drive with the fast version solved it. So anything 5x speed upwards is highly recommended.
Works like a charm.
Thx to all involved :-)
Post by: Toddler on November 08, 2007, 04:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 8 2007, 02:09 PM)
If I trusted batch files which spoofed drives and injected keys, I would too
There goes my faith in TeamXecuter.
Post by: Audioboxer on November 08, 2007, 05:42:00 PM
Games all play fine as well!
One thing though... the drive seems to be "thrashing" quite a bit. Games are silky smooth, it's just the drive sounds like its working hard to read the disc.
Discs are Vertabatim.
Anyone esle running 5x have the same thing?
I'm considering going up to 8x to see what its like!
(I noticed it a lot in COD4)
This post has been edited by Audioboxer: Nov 9 2007, 01:43 AM
Post by: BlackWar on November 08, 2007, 05:55:00 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 08, 2007, 06:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2007, 11:43 PM)
There goes my faith in TeamXecuter.
I'd love to know what my comments have to do with you having (or not having) faith in a product I have no say in? I think in your naivety you assume that being appointed a moderator on a support forum means It's my product, or that my comments on *this* forum have any reflection of the opinions of TeamXecuter.
Have you never heard of individuality? Do I *really* need a disclaimer in my sig, or are you mature enough to work it out for yourself?
QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 8 2007, 08:43 PM)
Uhhh... firmtool isnt a batch file and that is all the 'Make iXtreme Firmware' command calls. So, i'm not exactly sure what you're referring to...
Caster.
Unless I really need to, I avoid command-line tools where possible since a syntax error could actually cause more harm than good. A solid GUI-based tool like FWTB suits me better, that's all I'm saying. It's just a personal preference. Not only that, but I have had no experience with using firmtool in the manner you suggested. Rather than jump on someone for posting a mini-guide, how about you post one first next time?
Post by: Toddler on November 08, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 8 2007, 08:19 PM)
I'd love to know what my comments have to do with you having (or not having) faith in a product I have no say in? I think in your naivety you assume that being appointed a moderator on a support forum means It's my product, or that my comments on *this* forum have any reflection of the opinions of TeamXecuter.
Have you never heard of individuality? Do I *really* need a disclaimer in my sig, or are you mature enough to work it out for yourself?
It was basically a lighthearted comment, to which you've grossly overreacted. But as the saying goes, toss a rock at a dog and if he yelps, you know he got hit. I guess you just got hit.
And since you asked, I think you're retarded to say you don't trust batch files that spoof drives and inject keys. Those batch files are tested before they ever trickle down to you, and they ensure consistency so that some dickhead doesn't type the wrong syntax and brick his drive. So there it is.
What does that have to do with TeamXecuter? If you go bragging about it in your sig, you've willingly chosen to represent. You're the one wrapping yourself in their reputation, not me. And your comment was retarded, which I think is fair to hold against you, and by extension, them. Retarded comments = diminished credibility in my book.
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 8 2007, 08:19 PM)
Unless I really need to, I avoid command-line tools where possible since a syntax error could actually cause more harm than good. A solid GUI-based tool like FWTB suits me better, that's all I'm saying. It's just a personal preference. Not only that, but I have had no experience with using firmtool in the manner you suggested. Rather than jump on someone for posting a mini-guide, how about you post one first next time?
I think it's pretty damn funny that your objection to command-line tools is the increased risk of fat-fingering the syntax, yet you don't trust batch files, either. Like I said, the entire purpose of the batch files is to prevent fucktards with "no experience using Firmtool" like you from fucking themselves out of a 360. There's nothing inherently more solid or stable about a GUI-based tool. Pretty clickable buttons don't make an app more stable. Again, retarded.
As for the mini-guide pissing match, Caster can defend himself, but I can assure you he has provided more information here than you ever will.
Post by: Carlitosbaby on November 08, 2007, 07:40:00 PM
QUOTE(BlackWar @ Nov 8 2007, 08:55 PM)
I have a question reguarding the xtreme (not ixtreme) benq fw, and forgive me if this sounds noobish, does this firmware require DL disks? or can they be made on standard +R media....keep in mind, I dont go on live so I dont care about the games not being fully stealthed.
you are noobish lol all xbox 360 games are dual layer so how are you gonna burn 7+ gigs on a 4.7 gig disc?
Post by: BlackWar on November 08, 2007, 08:27:00 PM
anyway, thanks for the answer
Post by: kain on November 08, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Audioboxer @ Nov 9 2007, 12:42 AM)
I flashed at 5x and im amazed at how much quieter it is.
Games all play fine as well!
One thing though... the drive seems to be "thrashing" quite a bit. Games are silky smooth, it's just the drive sounds like its working hard to read the disc.
Discs are Vertabatim.
Anyone esle running 5x have the same thing?
I'm considering going up to 8x to see what its like!
(I noticed it a lot in COD4)
let us know how 8x turns out
Post by: penguinofdoom564 on November 08, 2007, 09:30:00 PM
The best part is that load times seem the same as before (I didn't time it like toddler but I'm not noticing a significant difference).
Glad I switched.
Post by: Toddler on November 08, 2007, 11:13:00 PM
I have been running my 360 with the white shell removed for so long that I really have no concept of how much quieter the box may sound, if at all, when I reassemble. Anybody care to weigh in on that?
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 09, 2007, 02:05:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)
It was basically a lighthearted comment, to which you've grossly overreacted. But as the saying goes, toss a rock at a dog and if he yelps, you know he got hit. I guess you just got hit.
In the grown up world of the Internet, light-hearted comments and sarcasm are accompanied by indicators of such. Your post displayed none of these and was replied to accordingly. I should have just ignored it TBH, as it was so far OT it was best left out for the trash. I'll try and find you an Internet etiquette guide if you should need one. Look up trolling, which is effectively what you are doing here.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)
And since you asked, I think you're retarded to say you don't trust batch files that spoof drives and inject keys. Those batch files are tested before they ever trickle down to you, and they ensure consistency so that some dickhead doesn't type the wrong syntax and brick his drive. So there it is.
I don't trust any automated process without being able to analyse what steps are carried out. Typing in a one line command where I just include two BIN files is something I would personally avoid. Why does this offend you so much? Did you write it?
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)
What does that have to do with TeamXecuter? If you go bragging about it in your sig, you've willingly chosen to represent. You're the one wrapping yourself in their reputation, not me. And your comment was retarded, which I think is fair to hold against you, and by extension, them. Retarded comments = diminished credibility in my book.
It's mentioned in my sig so anyone wishing assistance on Xbox/TX issues can contact me if the TX website is down. All of a sudden, every word I post makes them accountable. Riiiiight....
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)
I think it's pretty damn funny that your objection to command-line tools is the increased risk of fat-fingering the syntax, yet you don't trust batch files, either. Like I said, the entire purpose of the batch files is to prevent fucktards with "no experience using Firmtool" like you from fucking themselves out of a 360. There's nothing inherently more solid or stable about a GUI-based tool. Pretty clickable buttons don't make an app more stable. Again, retarded.
See my above comments on you being a troll. Peristently referring to someone as a retard/fucktard because of their preference counts as such.
What really befuddles me here is that your personal attack on me started with me posting a mini-guide for someone asking a question. Tell me, what did any of this have to do with you?
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)
As for the mini-guide pissing match, Caster can defend himself, but I can assure you he has provided more information here than you ever will.
Why you're getting involved in this situation is beyond me, other than you're spoiling for a fight or my suspicions of you just being a troll are confirmed. I suggest you go elsewhere if this is the case.
Post by: pinkerton on November 09, 2007, 03:05:00 AM
Post by: caster420 on November 09, 2007, 03:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 9 2007, 04:41 AM)
I don't trust any automated process without being able to analyse what steps are carried out. Typing in a one line command where I just include two BIN files is something I would personally avoid.
Yet something that is visual and still essentially hidden makes you warm and fuzzy. If you really wanted to know what it did and how it worked, you would actually look into it. Try actually running through the steps that i stated. Once you are finished, do a hex compare of the benq-ix.bin i created, the benq-ix.bin you created, and the iXtreme hacked firmware source. Then you can actually comment on whats better or not, as you have no clue what you are talking about.
As far as stability is concerned, in no way would i agree that a GUI app is less likely to have a 'syntax' error. You dont want to know how many times i've had 360 FIrmware Toolbox freeze while preforming different operations, including in the middle of flashing a drive. That resulted in it being bricked and me having to desolder the tsop.
Caster.
This post has been edited by caster420: Nov 9 2007, 12:01 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 09, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 9 2007, 10:57 AM)
Yet something that is visual and still essentially hidden makes you warm and fuzzy. If you really wanted to know what it did and how it worked, you would actually look into it. Try actually running through the steps that i stated. Once you are finished, do a hex compare of the benq-ix.bin i created, the benq-ix.bin you created, and the iXtreme hacked firmware source. Then you can actually comment on whats better or not, as you have no clue what you are talking about.
As far as stability is concerned, in no way would i agree that a GUI app is less likely to have a 'syntax' error. You dont want to know how many times i've had 360 FIrmware Toolbox freeze while preforming different operations, including in the middle of flashing a drive. That resulted in it being bricked and me having to desolder the tsop.
Caster.
Proper Usage: firmtool OriginalFile HackedFile
How does this tell me what it does? There isn't even a readme file attached to explain. How am I supposed to know that the utility not only copies the key, but also spoofs the destination firmware? The only person who knew this information prior to first use was you, since you wrote it!!! Therefore, why would I even try the utility let alone suggest it to someone else when it's not even documented in the release?
As I said, FWTB is my app of choice for this purpose because I know before using it what it can and can't do. You shouldn't throw your toys out of the pram because someone else suggests using another tool than yours, especially since you didn't actually make it clear what it could do to begin with.
As for not having no clue what I'm talking about, I was programming over 15 years ago and never left it to guesswork as to what a program actually did. If a customer didn't know what a program could do, that was MY fault, not theirs.
Post by: caster420 on November 09, 2007, 12:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 9 2007, 01:59 PM)
Proper Usage: firmtool OriginalFile HackedFile
How does this tell me what it does? There isn't even a readme file attached to explain. How am I supposed to know that the utility not only copies the key, but also spoofs the destination firmware? The only person who knew this information prior to first use was you, since you wrote it!!! Therefore, why would I even try the utility let alone suggest it to someone else when it's not even documented in the release?
It tells you to use your original firmware file, then your hacked firmware file - pretty straight forward. I explained it when the firmware was first released, in the original BenQ iXtreme thread. Yes, there is no readme because i have been working on finished a 32-bit version and both will be released in a package once it is finished. Firmtool can accept benq, hitachi, or samsung original firmwares and patch benq or samsung hacked firmware.
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 9 2007, 01:59 PM)
As I said, FWTB is my app of choice for this purpose because I know before using it what it can and can't do. You shouldn't throw your toys out of the pram because someone else suggests using another tool than yours, especially since you didn't actually make it clear what it could do to begin with.
Then you would know to check and see what 360 Firmware Toolbox does to the firmware when you spoof and/or use it to patch benq firmware. Take a look at the BenQ firmware patched with 360FWTB - it doesnt change the drive serial, nor does it completely patch all of the version string sets in the firmware.
I didnt throw it out there because it was my app. I threw it out there because it has been stated over and over again, in multiple threads, not to use 360FWTB with benq firmware until it fully supports it. I was correcting your 'guesswork' in regards to 360 Firmware Toolbox - I guess Maximus forgot to mention in the readme exactly what bytes it modifies in the firmware.
Caster.
This post has been edited by caster420: Nov 9 2007, 08:24 PM
Post by: Audioboxer on November 09, 2007, 12:37:00 PM
The drive is constantly thrashing/seeking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
This post has been edited by Audioboxer: Nov 9 2007, 08:41 PM
Post by: caster420 on November 09, 2007, 02:09:00 PM
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firmtool v1.0 by caster420
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PURPOSE:
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Firmtool was created to allow users to easily create Samsung/BenQ
Xtreme/iXtreme firmware patched with the correct information from
their BenQ/Hitachi/Samsung original firmware.
FEATURES:
--------
Firmtool supports original firmware from all drives currently
shipped with an Xbox 360 console. It will detect the firmware
version, locate, check and copy the key, copy the version strings
if different from the hacked firmware (aka spoofing), and copy the
drive serial (for BenQ firmware only).
USAGE:
-----
Simply place your original firmware file (orig.bin) and the hacked
firmware (hacked.bin) file in a directory with firmtool.exe. If in
windows, open a command prompt window and goto the chosen directory.
Then type:
firmtool orig.bin hacked.bin
If firmtool completes without any errors or warnings, then the
hacked firmware is ready to be flashed to your dvd-rom.
*** Note: Filenames are not fixed but must conform to the 8.3 dos
standard.
KNOWN ISSUES:
------------
- When firmtool is too deeply embeded in a directory, it will fail
to execute. Simply move it to a directory located closer to the
root of your filesystem and it will execute properly.
CONTACT ME:
----------
Send me a PM on xbox-scene, xboxhacker, 360mods.net, or on EFnet.
THANKS TO:
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commodore4eva, carranzafp, garyOPA, Iriez, momdad, Textbook, Lahey,
bigd23, modfreakz, uberfry
Post by: penguinofdoom564 on November 09, 2007, 03:50:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 9 2007, 01:18 PM)
I didnt throw it out there because it was my app. I threw it out there because it has been stated over and over again, in multiple threads, not to use 360FWTB with benq firmware until it fully supports it. I was correcting your 'guesswork' in regards to 360 Firmware Toolbox - I guess Maximus forgot to mention in the readme exactly what bytes it modifies in the firmware.
Caster.
Really? It has? I had to use FWTB because I run 64-bit windows and Firmtool is a 16-bit app, which it won't run. All I did was load up the hacked firmware file and paste in my drive's key, the ROM versions matched (64930C) so I figured it was alright. It's been working fine, been connected to Xbox Live too. Am I fucked now?
This post has been edited by penguinofdoom564: Nov 9 2007, 11:52 PM
Post by: Toddler on November 09, 2007, 04:07:00 PM
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QUOTE(penguinofdoom564 @ Nov 9 2007, 04:50 PM)
Am I fucked now?
There's nothing 100% about any of this stuff, that's just what you accept when you mod. But you want to be doing all that you can to mitigate against risks, and for that, Firmtool is currently the better tool. Caster has updated it every step of the way to do as thorough a job as possible. Although it doesn't have a GUI, which to some is a showstopper. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
QUOTE(Audioboxer @ Nov 9 2007, 01:37 PM)
Viva Pinata lags slightly and is terribly noisy on 8x for me.
The drive is constantly thrashing/seeking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Are you referring to the original or Party Animals? Party Animals tested fine for me on 8x, obviously louder but no hiccups...5x had the slightest dropout during the FMV intro.
Post by: penguinofdoom564 on November 09, 2007, 04:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 05:04 PM)
There's nothing 100% about any of this stuff, that's just what you accept when you mod. But you want to be doing all that you can to mitigate against risks, and for that, Firmtool is currently the better tool. Caster has updated it every step of the way to do as thorough a job as possible. Although it doesn't have a GUI, which to some is a showstopper. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I'm very comfortable with the command line...like I said though, I run XP x64 on this machine and while it does run 32-bit apps it won't run 16-bit. Firmtool is 16-bit so it doesn't run, period.
I'm asking if something besides the key is transfered when you run firmtool. Obviously the firmware I made has the key since it runs games and such, but it is it missing something else? I can use another computer and run firmtool if I really have to though and get a properly made file. And if it was missing a piece of information from the original FW, are bans for that instant or logged and then done in waves? I can still connect to Live which leads me to believe it's okay for now.
edit- and it just occured to me that I could have fucking made the firmware when I was booted into DOS to use dosflash. Damnit.
This post has been edited by penguinofdoom564: Nov 10 2007, 12:10 AM
Post by: Toddler on November 09, 2007, 04:20:00 PM
QUOTE(penguinofdoom564 @ Nov 9 2007, 05:08 PM)
I'm asking if something besides the key is transfered when you run firmtool. Obviously the firmware I made has the key since it runs games and such, but it is it missing something else?
Yes, there is more to it than the key. Does the extra stuff like your drive's serial number matter? No one knows. The only way we will ever know is if Microsoft is logging it and people start getting banned at some point.
QUOTE(penguinofdoom564 @ Nov 9 2007, 05:08 PM)
I'm very comfortable with the command line...like I said though, I run XP x64 on this machine and while it does run 32-bit apps it won't run 16-bit. Firmtool is 16-bit so it doesn't run, period.
Workarounds: boot floppy/USB, VMware (32-bit guest OS will run on 64-bit host), email it to a friend, etc.
This post has been edited by Toddler: Nov 10 2007, 12:20 AM
Post by: penguinofdoom564 on November 09, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
I just used another PC on the network to make a proper one with firmtool. Gonna flash it now.
Post by: caster420 on November 09, 2007, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(penguinofdoom564 @ Nov 9 2007, 05:50 PM)
Really? It has? I had to use FWTB because I run 64-bit windows and Firmtool is a 16-bit app, which it won't run. All I did was load up the hacked firmware file and paste in my drive's key, the ROM versions matched (64930C) so I figured it was alright. It's been working fine, been connected to Xbox Live too. Am I fucked now?
Your version strings and key are fine but the iXtreme you flashed to your drive doesnt have a serial. IF they were to start checking for that (currently it doesnt appear so), it could be a method for detection if you dont patch the hacked firmware with your original serial.
Caster.
Edit - should have refreshed the thread before posting... just flash the new fw and you'll be fine.
This post has been edited by caster420: Nov 10 2007, 12:27 AM
Post by: penguinofdoom564 on November 09, 2007, 04:37:00 PM
The first time I was doing all of this was when I had a different install of Windows on this machine, just regular XP pro. When I tried using Firmtool that time it wasn't copying the key. I realize now that's because it was in too deep of a directory. So as a workaround I used FWTB. That was for the "Fast" firmware. Between then and the multispeed coming out I switched to x64 and was faced with another instance of firmtool not working, for different reasons.
It's all straightened out now though and I learned something.
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 09, 2007, 05:21:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 9 2007, 09:09 PM)
Here you go Martinchris, made it just for you...
-------------------------------------------------------
firmtool v1.0 by caster420
-------------------------------------------------------
PURPOSE:
-------
Firmtool was created to allow users to easily create Samsung/BenQ
Xtreme/iXtreme firmware patched with the correct information from
their BenQ/Hitachi/Samsung original firmware.
FEATURES:
--------
Firmtool supports original firmware from all drives currently
shipped with an Xbox 360 console. It will detect the firmware
version, locate, check and copy the key, copy the version strings
if different from the hacked firmware (aka spoofing), and copy the
drive serial (for BenQ firmware only).
USAGE:
-----
Simply place your original firmware file (orig.bin) and the hacked
firmware (hacked.bin) file in a directory with firmtool.exe. If in
windows, open a command prompt window and goto the chosen directory.
Then type:
firmtool orig.bin hacked.bin
If firmtool completes without any errors or warnings, then the
hacked firmware is ready to be flashed to your dvd-rom.
*** Note: Filenames are not fixed but must conform to the 8.3 dos
standard.
KNOWN ISSUES:
------------
- When firmtool is too deeply embeded in a directory, it will fail
to execute. Simply move it to a directory located closer to the
root of your filesystem and it will execute properly.
CONTACT ME:
----------
Send me a PM on xbox-scene, xboxhacker, 360mods.net, or on EFnet.
THANKS TO:
---------
commodore4eva, carranzafp, garyOPA, Iriez, momdad, Textbook, Lahey,
bigd23, modfreakz, uberfry
Thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
The 'known issues' is particulary interesting - I will keep this in mind should I use it.
I'm sure others will benefit from seeing this information too.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 11:07 PM)
I think Martinchris will need this as well:
Right back at you.
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Post by: Toddler on November 09, 2007, 05:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 9 2007, 06:21 PM)
Yeah I thought about using that one, but I was certain you'd seen it before.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 10, 2007, 06:48:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 10 2007, 12:45 AM)
Yeah I thought about using that one, but I was certain you'd seen it before.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Actually, it reminded me of the 'Things that Yoda would say in bed' audio clip which still roams the 'net (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: fuch on November 10, 2007, 09:51:00 AM
I prefer this fw because it boots everything (and I don't plug the 360 into the router ever)
But is my only option 5x? I've heard of lag issues with lower speeds than full speed.
Post by: Toddler on November 11, 2007, 02:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Audioboxer @ Nov 9 2007, 01:37 PM)
Viva Pinata lags slightly and is terribly noisy on 8x for me.
The drive is constantly thrashing/seeking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I played Viva Pinata for an hour on 8x and then three hours on 5x last night, without a single issue. The game lags for a fraction fo a second when it autosaves, which it does for me on any speed.
Post by: just3847 on November 11, 2007, 03:22:00 PM
Post by: mironicus on November 11, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
This post has been edited by mironicus: Nov 12 2007, 12:33 AM
Post by: just3847 on November 11, 2007, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(mironicus @ Nov 11 2007, 06:30 PM)
Sounds more like your backup media is crap. Make a disc quality check with Nero.
that's hilarious..it was burned on a Verbatim DL made in Singapore (the better kind apparently) burned at 2.4x, and my backups are always fine. If you have read the thread it is because of the 5x speed of the firmware..did you not read about what's going on with it? Others reported the same with Splinter Cell DA so it's obviously gonna happen to everyone with the same specific games at specific loading points of the games.
By the way, I had the name Just4747 (I had posted earlier in this thread) and now my password wont get me in and when I do a Forgotten password request, I get no e-mail about it ever. Is there a reason my name was taken away from me or whatever? Can a mod please PM me or post telling me why it doesn't work anymore, I didn't break any rules or talk any shit on the name
Post by: GMtheBest on November 11, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 11 2007, 11:22 PM)
i dont know if anyone else has tried an Assassin's Creed backup yet with 5x, but HOLY GOD check out the time it takes to get a hold of the game even starting up at first, it makes the same constant click until it reads the disk properly and the screen shows up like 25-30 seconds later that it makes during Splinter Cell DA...is this even right? it's crazy long. I thought it wasn't gonna boot at all for a while. It's a shame that one little thing is like that cause you have to go through that shit every time. Ruins it for me. Someone else check it out too..
I had the exact same thing with my backup and original copy of the game using the 8X firmware, took over 1 min for the game to load once it is inserted. I flashed it with the 12X firmware and all was good.
Post by: Toddler on November 11, 2007, 07:29:00 PM
QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 11 2007, 07:10 PM)
If you have read the thread it is because of the 5x speed of the firmware..did you not read about what's going on with it?
Regarding the slower firmware, I don't think it's accurate to say that something's "going on with it" as if there's a problem. The Samsung "quiet" firmware does the same thing. If you slow down the drive speed, it's going to take longer to read...that's just how it is. In some games, it will be worse than others. If the game is loading a lot of small files from different areas of the disc, that's going to take longer than a sequential read of a few large files. Those kinds of things will be exaggerated on the slower firmware.
I'm still on the fence as to which is the "best" firmware. The 2x is pointless, 5x is just as quiet (good) but can take a while to load certain games (not so good). The 8x is a little faster (good), but doesn't totally eliminate the issues (not so good) and it is nearly as loud as 12x (bad). With 12x you get the best performance (good), but it sounds like a jet preparing for takeoff (bad).
Obviously everything is a tradeoff, so now you've got the data to decide what's right for you. Make a choice and move ahead.
Post by: penguinofdoom564 on November 11, 2007, 07:49:00 PM
I switched to 12x just now and while it takes half as long to load I still get the same error. I'm re-burning at 1x now (2.4x on my current disc, which is what the media is rated for) to see if that fixes it. I only have Ritek D01 unfortunately...I know it's the second choice but Fry's stopped carrying Verbatim and nobody else seems to have it. I'll be ordering some this week though...only bought a 15 stack of the Ritek.
edit: Or not...looks like I'm going to have two non-working AC backups in a moment. I told ImgBurn 1x but there it goes doing Max anyway.
This post has been edited by penguinofdoom564: Nov 12 2007, 03:49 AM
Post by: just3847 on November 11, 2007, 09:46:00 PM
This post has been edited by just3847: Nov 12 2007, 05:48 AM
Post by: dangerouseddy on November 11, 2007, 09:54:00 PM
QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 12 2007, 05:46 AM)
I was having a thought earlier...can we maybe request a 6x or 7x speed? That might eliminate a problem or two. Hopefully with 6x (or 7 if needed) we can have the same quietness with the drive and the laser as the 5x and most likely a little bit faster loading with the few specific games that it has trouble loading quickly. Just a thought, let me know your opinions on it because it might be something to ask for from C4. Thanks.
i think the drive can only do 2,5,8,12x and no other speeds.
This post has been edited by dangerouseddy: Nov 12 2007, 05:56 AM
Post by: just3847 on November 11, 2007, 10:06:00 PM
QUOTE(dangerouseddy @ Nov 11 2007, 11:54 PM)
i think the drive can only do 2,5,8,12x and no other speeds.
hmm oh ok..well unfortunately i think i might have to flash back to 12x ixtreme cause i can't stand some of these slowdowns and hesitations and delay in graphics! but oh god how I'll hate the noise! grr so difficult lol. but at least those crazy laser motor sounds should be gone with 12x too huh? Oh well.. can't have it all..12x is how it sounded stock anyway.
Post by: Toddler on November 11, 2007, 10:13:00 PM
QUOTE(penguinofdoom564 @ Nov 11 2007, 08:49 PM)
I was getting DRE on Assasin's Creed with the 5x.
Just a wild guess.
Looking forward to trying this game when it hits US shelves.
Post by: just3847 on November 11, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
now that i think about it, splinter cell DA and this both do that same thing where it takes forever to load up at first with a slower firmware, and they're BOTH Ubisoft games...hmm, must be the way they have their games load at first or something, ionoyo
by the way penguin..all my Best Buys sell Verbatims, dunno if you knew or if you live near any..
This post has been edited by just3847: Nov 12 2007, 06:25 AM
Post by: penguinofdoom564 on November 11, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
Thanks for the lead on Verb's just3847...when I run out of these Riteks I'll head to Best Buy.
Post by: just3847 on November 11, 2007, 10:39:00 PM
QUOTE(penguinofdoom564 @ Nov 12 2007, 12:32 AM)
Second burn is working...I dunno why since its the same disc and same burn speed. I'm just gonna keep using 12x though....I can't hear the 360 when I'm playing games and the load times are faster.
Thanks for the lead on Verb's just3847...when I run out of these Riteks I'll head to Best Buy.
no problemo man...they have a 5 pack for 20 bucks and i think it goes up from there for Verbatims (price-wise and amount of discs), not bad though..
and i think i might be following your route...12x will work faster and if I remember, the laser isn't so loud and ridiculous, and yeah you get used to the dvd-drive spinning sound cause well, hey, like I said it's the way it comes from the factory. There's just no real replacing of the 12x speed when you have all these little hangups here and there, whether it's graphics every time I load a level in GoW or Halo on Live, or this AC thing every time you boot up, ha..I can't wait through that every time, but that's just me.
Post by: ProphetOfPain on November 11, 2007, 11:31:00 PM
QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 12 2007, 02:10 AM)
By the way, I had the name Just4747 (I had posted earlier in this thread) and now my password wont get me in and when I do a Forgotten password request, I get no e-mail about it ever. Is there a reason my name was taken away from me or whatever? Can a mod please PM me or post telling me why it doesn't work anymore, I didn't break any rules or talk any shit on the name
Oh, I dunno.. probably because you was talking about playing backups of games that aren't even out yet.. ie pirated... just a guess..
Post by: just3847 on November 12, 2007, 09:30:00 AM
Post by: just4747 on November 12, 2007, 05:42:00 PM
QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 12 2007, 11:30 AM)
yeah but it was most likely to explain something else about flashing or whatever. everyone else does it anyway and they don't get banned.
nevermind, just had the wrong pw!! LoL
Post by: drowsy on November 13, 2007, 01:46:00 AM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 8 2007, 08:27 PM)
Here is what i would do..
1) Dump your firmware from your Benq called orig.bin
2) Put it in 'Fast' or 'Quiet' directory and run the 'Make iXtreme Firmware' command
3) Place your Hitachi original firmware (we'll call it hitorig.bin) in the appropriate 'Fast' or 'Quiet' folder
4) Open a command prompt window and goto that folder
5) Type: firmtool hitorig.bin benq-ix.bin
6) Flash benq-ix.bin to your BenQ drive
Caster.
I don't think that will work since you'd be only copying the key from the hitorig.bin to the benq-ix.bin. You still need to spoof the benq-ix.bin to a hitachi after you firmtool'ed it and got the hitachi key. Otherwise hitachi mobo would get a 1 red light when switched on.
Post by: just4747 on November 13, 2007, 03:57:00 AM
like i said before, i tried a backup of assassin's creed with 5x FW and it booted ridiculously slow and didnt find the first screen for like 45 seconds or so. Then I flashed back to 12x, tried it and it loaded just fine in like 15-20 seconds, and it worked like that at least twice. Now, I just happened to try it again (still at 12x FW, havent changed again) and it loaded slow like it did with 5x! Nothing has changed since only a few hours ago when it loaded quick. Why the hell would it go back to that way again? Wow so much shit makes sense with this ridiculous machine.
Post by: Toddler on November 13, 2007, 04:00:00 AM
Post by: just4747 on November 13, 2007, 04:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 13 2007, 06:00 AM)
Everybody is saying Assassin's Creed takes forever to boot, at any speed. Maybe you were smoking crack when you first gave 12x a try.
nah see now when i reconnected the ethernet now that live is back up, and booted the game, it went fast again...i dont get it! why would it load faster with live connected?
even with the ethernet disconnected now its fast...wtf?? its almost like the 20 seconds of live i was just signed into when it came back up fixed my problem. can anyone begin to explain that? it's exactly what happened too, im not insane nor stupid.
also, completely random, is this supposed to happen? everytime i shut halo 3 off, my recent films are completely erased when i turn it back on (i think thats when it happens). How long are the recent films supposed to stay on your system? i could have sworn they used to stay on my box even after i shut off and play again later.
This post has been edited by just4747: Nov 13 2007, 12:11 PM
Post by: caster420 on November 13, 2007, 06:08:00 AM
QUOTE(drowsy @ Nov 13 2007, 03:46 AM)
I don't think that will work since you'd be only copying the key from the hitorig.bin to the benq-ix.bin. You still need to spoof the benq-ix.bin to a hitachi after you firmtool'ed it and got the hitachi key. Otherwise hitachi mobo would get a 1 red light when switched on.
Firmtool spoofs - read the readme above.
Caster.
Post by: GTherion on November 13, 2007, 07:16:00 AM
Post by: just4747 on November 13, 2007, 12:17:00 PM
QUOTE(GTherion @ Nov 13 2007, 09:16 AM)
flash4747 it loads faster sometimes because the cache is readily available from previous loading, so it takes less time. this happened on xbox1 too.
i remember that and thought of it, but when it was booting up crazy slow, i would play a level and shut down the xbox so that it would store it in the cache...then i tried loading the game again numerous times from the dash and it would still be slow like before, i tried it a few times. I'm telling you, it seriously only stopped being slow again when i was able to connect to live for a minute, and then after that, even when i had live disconnected, it has been fine ever since. so weird!
i had read on the live forums before that others who couldn't get on live last night also experienced slow dashboard loading among other things once they had tried to login unsuccessfully to live last night, kinda like my problem. weird though..
Post by: xboxdawg on November 13, 2007, 01:17:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 8 2007, 03:04 PM)
Caster, I used your tutorial to flash my Benq. It was great! Just a few notes though for some things that I found. Nothing major but may help some people.
I have the NForce 3 chipset.
DosFlash 1.3 would not let me use the last 0 on the command. I left it off and it worked fine.
I also did not have to turn the xbox 360 back off each time. I booted the PC on the USB drive, did the DosFlash command, turned on the 360 and it started reading.
I shut everything down and it worked the same with the write.
I DID have to erase the original flash (even though I was not using the VIA). It gave me 1400 some write errors when I tried it without erasing. So I did the erase and then flashed it again and it worked fine.
Also the current firmware is titled benq-ixa.bin, if someone types in benq-ix.bin that might throw them off.
Thanks so much for the excellent work!
Post by: fredfunk on November 13, 2007, 01:19:00 PM
Even tried Verbs ay 1 x speed
Works with Samsung but not with Benq at any speed.
Tested on 3 Benq drives dont work
Tested on 2 Sammys and works fine
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 13, 2007, 01:38:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxdawg @ Nov 13 2007, 08:17 PM)
I have the NForce 3 chipset.
DosFlash 1.3 would not let me use the last 0 on the command. I left it off and it worked fine.
Hmmm, I was only able to use my NForce 3 chipset to do a Benq and didn't have no omit anything. What error did you get?
Post by: xboxdawg on November 13, 2007, 03:48:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 13 2007, 09:38 PM)
Hmmm, I was only able to use my NForce 3 chipset to do a Benq and didn't have no omit anything. What error did you get?
It kept giving me the syntax for the command. The last thing listed in the syntax for the command was the file name. Did you use DosFlash 1.3 beta?
XBD
This post has been edited by xboxdawg: Nov 13 2007, 11:49 PM
Post by: Toddler on November 13, 2007, 03:56:00 PM
QUOTE(just4747 @ Nov 13 2007, 03:57 AM)
i tried a backup of assassin's creed with 5x FW and it booted ridiculously slow and didnt find the first screen for like 45 seconds or so
From the IGN review of Assassin's Creed:
"Lengthy load times for levels (upwards of five minutes at some points) is forgivable considering that once in game you can run from one end of Jerusalem to the other and from depths of the darkest alley to the tip-top of the highest building."
Can we please quit hyperfocusing on this one game and get back to discussing firmware?
This post has been edited by Toddler: Nov 13 2007, 11:59 PM
Post by: just4747 on November 13, 2007, 04:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 13 2007, 05:56 PM)
From the IGN review of Assassin's Creed:
"Lengthy load times for levels (upwards of five minutes at some points) is forgivable considering that once in game you can run from one end of Jerusalem to the other and from depths of the darkest alley to the tip-top of the highest building."
Can we please quit hyperfocusing on this one game and get back to discussing firmware?
Yeah but there should be no lengthy load times at boot up..there's nothing to load but the main menu which isn't much...I think I found out that sometimes when I play it for a sec and it is cached, itll load up the next time quickly if i dont reboot...but even so, sometimes it still doesnt...its really random. but im telling you sometimes that booting takes literally like a minute. obviously it wasnt meant to be that way.
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 13, 2007, 04:19:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxdawg @ Nov 13 2007, 10:48 PM)
It kept giving me the syntax for the command. The last thing listed in the syntax for the command was the file name. Did you use DosFlash 1.3 beta?
XBD
Yes, definitely.
Can you remember the full command line you entered, causing the command syntax to appear? I'm thinking there may have been another character elsewhere in the command causing the problem...
Post by: Toddler on November 13, 2007, 04:31:00 PM
QUOTE(just4747 @ Nov 13 2007, 04:14 PM)
Yeah but there should be no lengthy load times at boot up..there's nothing to load but the main menu which isn't much...I think I found out that sometimes when I play it for a sec and it is cached, itll load up the next time quickly if i dont reboot...but even so, sometimes it still doesnt...its really random. but im telling you sometimes that booting takes literally like a minute. obviously it wasnt meant to be that way.
Unless you're somehow trying to blame the iXtreme firmware, please shut the fuck up.
Post by: just4747 on November 13, 2007, 06:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 13 2007, 06:31 PM)
Unless you're somehow trying to blame the iXtreme firmware, please shut the fuck up.
what? lol what's your problem? I'm just saying that even with 12x sometimes its real slow. Whats the need to get angry?? jesus were all friends here. i love this stuff as much as the next person, not hatin on the FW
This post has been edited by just4747: Nov 14 2007, 02:54 AM
Post by: xboxdawg on November 14, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
I had to remove the last 0 to get it to work.
So I ended up using:
DOSFLASH r 09f0 1 a0 1 4 orig.bin
Worked like a charm.
XBD
Post by: fredfunk on November 14, 2007, 02:03:00 PM
DOSFLASH r (Your Port) 1 a0 1 4 orig.bin 0
DOSFLASH r (Your Port) 1 a0 1 4 orig.bin 1
DOSFLASH r (Your Port) 1 a0 1 4 orig.bin
top two work with my PC downstairs with latest VIA
and omit last one work with my older PC with old VIA chipset
Yep Ass Creed still a problem even burning at 1 x speed with Verbs on Pioneer 112D and 111D
Tried ImageBurn and CloneCD
Tested on 3 Benq drives with various speeds
Thought I would share the info
Post by: xboxdawg on November 15, 2007, 09:40:00 AM
I put the hard drive back on my other 360 (Hitachi) and boot the same disc and it works perfectly.
Madden and Nascar work with no problems. Any ideas?
I flashed the benq with the 12x by the way.
XBD
This post has been edited by xboxdawg: Nov 15 2007, 05:42 PM
Post by: fredfunk on November 15, 2007, 01:11:00 PM
Benq tried and tested the following Media
CMC MAG D03/D04 ok aprt from Ass Creed will not load
Ritek S04 ok apart Ass Creed will not load
RICOHJPND01 No luck at all
MKM 001 ok and Ass Creed intermitent sometimes loads sometimes not, by the way this media is Verbatim
Hope this helps in better Media Detection for Benq FM
Post by: mironicus on November 15, 2007, 02:26:00 PM
QUOTE(fredfunk @ Nov 15 2007, 09:11 PM)
Hope this helps someone
Benq tried and tested the following Media
CMC MAG D03/D04 ok aprt from Ass Creed will not load
Ritek S04 ok apart Ass Creed will not load
RICOHJPND01 No luck at all
MKM 001 ok and Ass Creed intermitent sometimes loads sometimes not, by the way this media is Verbatim
Hope this helps in better Media Detection for Benq FM
All media should work fine with the Benq, as it depends much on the dvd writer how good it burns the discs.
For example I use RICOHJPND01 (very cheap media) with great success. Burned all media with 8x. No slowdows on the 360 and reading speeds are like the original games. I use the Benq DW 1640 as writer. (Benq writer and Benq reader works great together (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )
This post has been edited by mironicus: Nov 15 2007, 10:39 PM
Post by: carl25 on November 17, 2007, 01:37:00 AM
try the 2x or 5x firmware...
make sure the game rip goes smoothly...i have had to use a little soap and water to clean some of my origonals to get them to rip without at read errors...(lint free cloth wipe from inside to out)
im currently using 8x firmware playing my verbatim (MiS) printables perfectly
This post has been edited by carl25: Nov 17 2007, 09:37 AM
Post by: Semicidal on November 17, 2007, 10:12:00 PM
Post by: BlackWar on November 17, 2007, 10:16:00 PM
other then that, are you sure you are using the correct vers. of fw for your drive?
Post by: Semicidal on November 17, 2007, 10:22:00 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 18, 2007, 04:03:00 AM
QUOTE(Semicidal @ Nov 18 2007, 05:22 AM)
Well, I am actually still on the first step. formatting my USB drive (adcutally, my SD card in a card reader), and the PDF located in this thread tells me to load any samsung firmware into iprep just to get it to format my card. I got the Benq (I have a BenQ drive) FW off of Xbins (please edit or inform me if im not allowed to mention that here) and none of the samsung FW's are working for this purpose, hence why I tried a torrent. As to whether or not I'm sure I have the correct FW for my drive, I am pretty sure theres only one type of benQ drive.
You need to understand what you're doing before going any further.
The reason the guide tells you this, is because at this stage you're just creating boot files and iPrep needs SOMETHING loaded in order to do this. Once you have the boot files created, you can either copy over the BenQ files to it or refer to them later.
If this isn't making much sense to you, then read through the PDF a few times until you do - the last thing you want to do is make a mistake and either brick your drive or (worse), lose your drive key.
Post by: stevec74 on November 18, 2007, 09:06:00 AM
Now, when I boot the 360, it doesn't recognize any discs at all, original or backup.
So, I decided to erase that firmware and write one of my orig.bin files back onto it. It still doesn't read any discs.
Any idea what could have gone wrong? Corrupt read (twice)?
Would there be any way to get at least my original firmware back onto the drive again?
Thanks for your help!
Post by: v3rb on November 18, 2007, 09:53:00 AM
Post by: Semicidal on November 18, 2007, 10:16:00 AM
Post by: emm1t on November 18, 2007, 01:52:00 PM
- dosflash16 - via 6421- 5x
no probs
thanks C4EVA and Schtrom
Post by: Semicidal on November 19, 2007, 12:04:00 AM
When I click to format my disk, I get an exception error saying the device isnt ready, but when I click try again, it works no worries. Should I trust it>
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 19, 2007, 03:55:00 AM
QUOTE(Semicidal @ Nov 19 2007, 07:04 AM) 
Okay, I figured out the problem with Iprep (I needed to update a definition file) but I ran into something else.
When I click to format my disk, I get an exception error saying the device isnt ready, but when I click try again, it works no worries. Should I trust it>
After formatting the disk, open it in Explorer - if it has your files on it, then try booting from it.
If it works, you should be ok!
Post by: GRABRAC on November 19, 2007, 07:47:00 AM
Post by: Martinchris23 on November 19, 2007, 08:00:00 AM
QUOTE(GRABRAC @ Nov 19 2007, 02:47 PM)
Is there anyway to backup the original firmware with this method in case if i have to put back the original firmware to play xbox live or something like that ?
What method? The first thing you need to do is to read the firmware which is currently on your drive.
KEEP IT SAFE!!!!
If you ever want to restore the firmware, just flash this file back again.
Post by: Semicidal on November 19, 2007, 11:11:00 AM
my god, I really need to take this slowly, and re-reread all those instructions again, how could I miss something so stupid,, Thanks for the patience everyone.
Post by: GRABRAC on November 19, 2007, 12:59:00 PM
Post by: slobearsi on November 20, 2007, 12:11:00 AM
Post by: xyexz on November 20, 2007, 01:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Semicidal @ Nov 19 2007, 02:04 AM)
Okay, I figured out the problem with Iprep (I needed to update a definition file) but I ran into something else.
When I click to format my disk, I get an exception error saying the device isnt ready, but when I click try again, it works no worries. Should I trust it>
Semicidal, if you know you have a good fw that you acquired from the "usual places", you can update your definition file yourself. All you need is the hacked firmware file and a program like "Win MD5 Sum", you can download it http://www.md5summer.org/.
Install and start Win MD5 Sum and get the sum of the firmware file you're wanting to use.
Find the file in the iPrep programs root folder called 'ixDef.xml', open and after this line:
CODE
Add the following:
CODE
Save it and restart iPrep, and the firmware you loaded into Win MD5 Sum can now be loaded into iPrep without error!
This whole process is quick once you've done it a few times and is quicker than going and searching for an updated Def file, those on dial-up will appreciate this method
WARNING: Only do this for firmware files you know are in correct working order for the drive you're wanting to flash.
Post by: Semicidal on November 20, 2007, 01:29:00 AM
Post by: romadark on November 25, 2007, 02:44:00 AM
I need some help though.
Can anybody tell me how to download the firmware for my BenQ drive and the Tutorials too. I tried but never found a link or anything. Maybe i havent got used to this site
. Any tips and suggestions are always welcome too. I just want to find a way to Mod my 360 and stop paying a hell of a lot for each game.
Please help. I'm desesperated
.Thanks in advance.
Post by: foaley77 on November 25, 2007, 04:47:00 AM
using 8 x Firmware and Verbatim dvd's, game works fine on my hitachi Drive
Post by: d940217 on November 25, 2007, 02:46:00 PM
"to play this disc, put it in an xbox 360 console"
i get this message on backups and originals...
Post by: codeman896 on November 25, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
QUOTE(foaley77 @ Nov 25 2007, 06:47 AM)
Does anyone have problems booting up Assassins Creed it takes like a minute to load the game?
using 8 x Firmware and Verbatim dvd's, game works fine on my hitachi Drive
Yeah I have the same issue, tried to boot up backup of Assassin's and the console left dashboard and just went to a black screen sounding like it was searching for data on disc. I let it go for about 45 seconds and nothing happened so i just pressed eject and 360 went back to dash. Any ideas on why this is occurring with this FW? Backup works excellent on hitachi drive.
Post by: bigghek on November 25, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
No problems at all.
Thank you!
Post by: Semicidal on November 26, 2007, 08:47:00 PM
QUOTE(romadark @ Nov 25 2007, 05:44 AM)
Hey guys, i'm kinda new in here but i've heard a lot about this site and i just saw that i just found what i'm looking for.
I need some help though.
Can anybody tell me how to download the firmware for my BenQ drive and the Tutorials too. I tried but never found a link or anything. Maybe i havent got used to this site
. Any tips and suggestions are always welcome too. I just want to find a way to Mod my 360 and stop paying a hell of a lot for each game.
Please help. I'm desesperated
.Thanks in advance.
IIRC, all the info you need is linked in the first 2 pages of this thread.
Anyone know if the fall update will mess with any modding done?
Post by: BlackWar on November 26, 2007, 09:15:00 PM
QUOTE(romadark @ Nov 25 2007, 03:44 AM)
Hey guys, i'm kinda new in here but i've heard a lot about this site and i just saw that i just found what i'm looking for.
I need some help though.
Can anybody tell me how to download the firmware for my BenQ drive and the Tutorials too. I tried but never found a link or anything. Maybe i havent got used to this site
. Any tips and suggestions are always welcome too. I just want to find a way to Mod my 360 and stop paying a hell of a lot for each game.
Please help. I'm desesperated
.Thanks in advance.
I also would like to point out that discussion of piracy is not tolerated here. The point of being able to copy games is to protect the investment on the games that we have purchased, not to try to get out of purchasing them.
Post by: havoc on November 26, 2007, 09:57:00 PM
please insert this disc in an xbox 360
i flashed the 12x firmware and use verbatim 2.4x
Post by: d940217 on November 26, 2007, 11:02:00 PM
QUOTE(havoc @ Nov 26 2007, 11:57 PM)
i just flashed my first beng drive using iprep and 1.1 multi speed. everything went perfect with the flashing, booted up the 360 to test and any disc i put in it comes up with the error screen
please insert this disc in an xbox 360
i flashed the 12x firmware and use verbatim 2.4x
haha! i did the same thing..you didnt copy the FW with your keys..dont copy the stuff inside the fw folder, copy the modded BIN from the 12x folder!
Post by: havoc on November 27, 2007, 01:26:00 AM
had to restore to orig then reflash, everything up and runnin fine now!
thanks
Post by: fits79 on November 27, 2007, 04:49:00 AM
1. If i can whith that http://www.connectland.net/fiche-629-pci_card_combo_sata_150_et_ide_p_ata.html(Picture below) flash all the drives(hitachi, benq, samsung) of xbox360.
2. How exactly do the flash procedure into dos(you must load any drivers or not?) or into windows xp pro sp2 greek 32bit.
3. Which port of these two i must connect the xbox360 drive to work
4. I must disable all my onboard sata and ide atapi controllers like intel ich5 or not
A lot of thanks.
Post by: sid1747 on November 27, 2007, 08:24:00 PM
any ideas i used the 5x.
Post by: Spider22 on November 28, 2007, 08:36:00 AM
Post by: Lheurch on November 29, 2007, 07:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Spider22 @ Nov 28 2007, 04:36 PM)
Helo I have a problem with my Benq drive. I flash this drive with Ixtreme 1.1 8x speed and assasin creed don't want to start. The drive i reading and reading and nothing hapend's. I burn the game 2 times on Verbatim, games work on Samsung drive with no problem. Any ideas?
My guess is you have a non-stealthed game. The BenQ firmware will not start non iXtreme compatable games unless you use the version of the firmware that specifically supports that. Use XDVDMulleter to verify the image's integrity.
Post by: timewaster on November 29, 2007, 09:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Spider22 @ Nov 28 2007, 10:36 AM)
Helo I have a problem with my Benq drive. I flash this drive with Ixtreme 1.1 8x speed and assasin creed don't want to start. The drive i reading and reading and nothing hapend's. I burn the game 2 times on Verbatim, games work on Samsung drive with no problem. Any ideas?
how long did you wait?
There is a known issue with Assassin's Creed taking a long time to load with iXtreme.
I believe i had to wait 1 minute or so for mine to load up and I have a Benq drive at 8x speed also.
Post by: Prosperot on December 02, 2007, 07:02:00 AM
Is it worth updating again from the 'original' multispeed version 1.1 r2 dd 7 nov 2007?
Post by: sid1747 on December 02, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
maybe someone will release a better compatibility firmware soon or sumthing. i was gonna try the 12x also see if that helped. anyone with 12x have any problems.
Post by: fredfunk on December 02, 2007, 02:28:00 PM
Tested on Verbs and other media even burnt at 1 x speed
Ass Creed works on my Sammy 1.3 FW at 8 x speed
Post by: chobitstae on December 03, 2007, 05:15:00 AM
Post by: doom3670 on December 03, 2007, 11:03:00 AM
so assassins creed wont work on benq drive ?
Post by: HoBoz on December 03, 2007, 11:11:00 AM
QUOTE(doom3670 @ Dec 3 2007, 12:03 PM)
so assassins creed wont work on benq drive ?
I flashed a friend's Benq drive with 8x and burnt him a copy of Assassin's Creed on verb. at 2.4x and he has not said that he was having any troubles with it. Tho I have not spoken to him since I gave him a copy. I will talk to him tonight and see if he is having troubles.
QUOTE(fredfunk @ Dec 2 2007, 03:28 PM)
I have tried all speeds with Benq and ass creed and nothing works.
Tested on Verbs and other media even burnt at 1 x speed
Ass Creed works on my Sammy 1.3 FW at 8 x speed
Maybe you just have bad burns or a bad image.
Post by: HoBoz on December 03, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
QUOTE(HoBoz @ Dec 3 2007, 12:11 PM)
I flashed a friend's Benq drive with 8x and burnt him a copy of Assassin's Creed on verb. at 2.4x and he has not said that he was having any troubles with it. Tho I have not spoken to him since I gave him a copy. I will talk to him tonight and see if he is having troubles.
Maybe you just have bad burns or a bad image.
Could not edit my other post.
I did run into something similar. I had a Pioneer 111d and it worked great for a long time, then I started getting some verbs not being read in my hitachi 59 where as another friend could read them in his hitachi 46. Even tho imgburn said the burn was ok. The Pioneer finally went out and I started using my old Sony burner and have not had a single coaster yet (knocks on wood). So it could be your burner as well.
Post by: fredfunk on December 03, 2007, 02:34:00 PM
QUOTE
I did run into something similar. I had a Pioneer 111d and it worked great for a long time, then I started getting some verbs not being read in my hitachi 59 where as another friend could read them in his hitachi 46. Even tho imgburn said the burn was ok. The Pioneer finally went out and I started using my old Sony burner and have not had a single coaster yet (knocks on wood). So it could be your burner as well.
I have had laser burn out on 3 drives over 2 years, I have 2 new 112D pioneer drives, even tried burning at 1 x speed and sometimes works on 8 x speed Benq.
Burnt at 4 x speed and works on FW samsung 8 x speed and Hitachi FW
Post by: DeepUnder on December 04, 2007, 02:22:00 AM
i have flashed my Benq drive with the 12x firmware v1.1.
I made a backup of orange box on my Pioneer 212D with Vertbaitm Media burnt at 2.4 & 4x
The issue i am having is that the backup runs ok not freezes or pauses loads are ok i think but my BenQ drive is tharshing it self to read the media.
But if i put the orignal in it reads the DVD with ease.
hope i explained my self OK
what could be the issue bad media or is it how the firmware is
thanks
Post by: Harlock13 on December 05, 2007, 08:59:00 AM
I have just bought a BenQ xbox 360 and in 2 or 3 weeks i am going to hack it.
I download the new C4EVA Multispeed 1.1 version and i have a question...
In the folder there are 5 sub-folders (2x,5x,8x,12x,non-stealth)
I know that Benq can play only stealth games... then Non-stealth firmware is fixing this problem??
and if i put the Non-stealth firmware what speed will my driver have?
Sorry for my noob questions but i am new to these things...
Post by: HoBoz on December 05, 2007, 09:01:00 AM
QUOTE(Harlock13 @ Dec 5 2007, 09:59 AM)
Hello i am new in this site !
I have just bought a BenQ xbox 360 and in 2 or 3 weeks i am going to hack it.
I download the new C4EVA Multispeed 1.1 version and i have a question...
In the folder there are 5 sub-folders (2x,5x,8x,12x,non-stealth)
I know that Benq can play only stealth games... then Non-stealth firmware is fixing this problem??
and if i put the Non-stealth firmware what speed will my driver have?
Sorry for my noob questions but i am new to these things...
The non Stealth fw is for ppl that are not concerned with playing on live and the speed is the default speed. If you are going to want to play on xbox live use one of the other fw. The speed is a matter of preference, tho most I think are using the 8x. Some complain the 12x is too loud and the 2x, 5x are seeing some longer load times.
Post by: waytoodeep03 on December 05, 2007, 11:57:00 AM
Post by: flexy123 on December 07, 2007, 01:25:00 PM
Everything went fine according to dosflash, i used my SATA/NF4 board to flash, no errors or anything.
But right now it seems the drive cannot read ANYTHING, it DOES tell me what region code a disk has...or it shows "mixed media" when i insert a CD with mp3s ...but the drive itself cannot be accessed AT ALL.
I am 99,99% positive that the flash went all right..but it just wont work!
i did:
read original fw
patched original fw with the ixtreme 12x
erased original fw
flashed benq-ix
no errors shown, everything looking allright
G.
Post by: steffenj on December 07, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
i have a newly flashed benq (12x firmware) and the only problem i have is assassin's creed backup, it thrashes on the disc for a long time before the title screen appears
i burned it a second time with 2.4x and this version seems even worse, i thought it would not even start at all
i'm using verbatim media and Plextor 750A dvd writer
Post by: cypher21 on December 07, 2007, 02:21:00 PM
QUOTE(flexy123 @ Dec 7 2007, 08:25 PM)
i got a new 360 yesterday with BenQ, and i flashed it with BenQ ixtreme1.1 multispeed, 12x
Everything went fine according to dosflash, i used my SATA/NF4 board to flash, no errors or anything.
But right now it seems the drive cannot read ANYTHING, it DOES tell me what region code a disk has...or it shows "mixed media" when i insert a CD with mp3s ...but the drive itself cannot be accessed AT ALL.
I am 99,99% positive that the flash went all right..but it just wont work!
i did:
read original fw
patched original fw with the ixtreme 12x
erased original fw
flashed benq-ix
no errors shown, everything looking allright
G.
Do original games still work? If not, flashing went wrong, if they still work, something else is wrong and then try different media.
Post by: ACiDSTEW on December 09, 2007, 01:41:00 AM