Post by: Xbox-Scene on October 28, 2007, 06:48:00 PM
Team Underdog Introduces new DVD FW PatchMod: NME-360 v2.0 Posted by XanTium | October 28 19:48 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
| Team Underdog released a new DVD FW Patch Mod, called NME-360 v2.0, that will work with all current Xbox360 DVD drives: Quote
Official Site: http://nme2.com |
Post by: O_oTheGameo_O on October 28, 2007, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: ydgmms on October 28, 2007, 06:49:00 PM
*waits for coming "they ripped off c4eva" etc posts*
I think its needed. Its easier for me to do a chip. For some reason, lately, I haven't been able to flash a single drive. No hardware changes on my PC, yet I can't flash anything.
This post has been edited by ydgmms: Oct 29 2007, 01:51 AM
Post by: Vejita on October 28, 2007, 07:09:00 PM
Post by: Bubbalynch on October 28, 2007, 07:10:00 PM
As I refuse to add any foreign hardware to my 360 via soldering.
Has never, and will never happen here. I just don't trust my hand at soldering.
Post by: Altima NEO on October 28, 2007, 07:31:00 PM
Sorry, just dont know what to say, with all the crap surrounding the DMCA right now...
Post by: jimbobjim on October 28, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
They must be sooooooooo pissed
Post by: Iriez on October 28, 2007, 07:38:00 PM
I find it funny they have been pushing their release times back and back that coincide with ixtreme, and the DAY after ixtreme benq is released all of a sudden they announce the new chip with benq support.
This chip offers nothing that you can do via software alone, and MUCH more work than whats neccessary. I hope no one bothers to buy this.
Post by: ydgmms on October 28, 2007, 08:24:00 PM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Oct 28 2007, 09:14 PM) 
Btw NME, great job ripping off ixtreme benq!
I find it funny they have been pushing their release times back and back that coincide with ixtreme, and the DAY after ixtreme benq is released all of a sudden they announce the new chip with benq support.
This chip offers nothing that you can do via software alone, and MUCH more work than whats neccessary. I hope no one bothers to buy this.
Had the NME2.0 come out less than 24hours before iXtreme BenQ, would you say the same? ...Nope.
Post by: signum on October 28, 2007, 08:29:00 PM
QUOTE(ydgmms @ Oct 29 2007, 02:24 AM)
Had the NME2.0 come out less than 24hours before iXtreme BenQ, would you say the same? ...Nope.
The fact is they didnt did they? It was after which looks to me why they have ripped iXtreme off. I agree with Iriez. They have totally ripped of the BenQ iXtreme that c4eva released. Actually it wouldnt surprise me that they just have the flash of c4eva's installed on one of the banks lol
They is a waste of space and time.
Post by: commandersafi on October 28, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
Post by: m82a1 on October 28, 2007, 09:14:00 PM
This post has been edited by m82a1: Oct 29 2007, 04:16 AM
Post by: Base8 on October 28, 2007, 09:56:00 PM
QUOTE(commandersafi @ Oct 28 2007, 07:31 PM)
if u have the proper sata controller that is
And I'm sure that this costs more than a 10$ sata adapter.
Meh.....
This post has been edited by Base8: Oct 29 2007, 04:57 AM
Post by: cena4ever on October 29, 2007, 03:05:00 AM
QUOTE(signum @ Oct 28 2007, 10:29 PM)
The fact is they didnt did they? It was after which looks to me why they have ripped iXtreme off. I agree with Iriez. They have totally ripped of the BenQ iXtreme that c4eva released. Actually it wouldnt surprise me that they just have the flash of c4eva's installed on one of the banks lol
They is a waste of space and time.
i was thinking the same thing too these guys are nothing more then money grabbers who steal others hard work and then try to make money from it. you suck team underdog just like your crappy nme chip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
This post has been edited by cena4ever: Oct 29 2007, 10:08 AM
Post by: Sick0 on October 29, 2007, 03:37:00 AM
Question, does this chip still require additional patching of your ISO's to work with the chip?
Post by: Tk_hom3r on October 29, 2007, 04:34:00 AM
Post by: CoLD FiRE on October 29, 2007, 04:51:00 AM
QUOTE
We have been silent for the last few months in order to continue our developments to meet the new market needs.
wtf!! yeah u've been silent for the last few months until C4EVA released his newest iXtreme, right?
QUOTE
The result of our long and hard work is the birth of NME-360 v2.0 which is a fully upgradable DVD-drive mod for the Xbox360.
that's wrong it's the result of others' hard work not yours.
QUOTE
It supports all Samsung MS25 + MS28 drives, all Hitachi 46 - 79 drives (FL and FK) and all BenQ drives.
sure it does! 'cuz it's just a ripoff.
QUOTE
Once a new Xbox360 DVD-drive hits the market it will be an ease for the customer or wholesaler to upgrade the chip to make it compatible to that new drive too.
Pardon them
they meant "once a new firmware for a new Xbox360 DVD-drive hits the market it will be an ease for the customer or wholesaler to upgrade the chip to make it compatible to that new drive too."What a coincidence ha??
Post by: proger on October 29, 2007, 04:59:00 AM
Am I the only one that noticed the spelling and grammar errors? Seems kind of unprofessional if you ask me.
Why would anyone use this anyway? It has already proven in the past to be no more safe than the regular 'ol firmware.
This post has been edited by proger: Oct 29 2007, 12:07 PM
Post by: BoNg420 on October 29, 2007, 05:52:00 AM
It's not like they will sell a bunch anyway. I look at it as something better for a 79 fk/fl owners to use. I mean the passkey is a cheaply made piece of shit. The PCB of the passkey is so thin and cheap, the thing is fragile, you wonder why they work half the time too (heard rumors of people buying several and getting several bad ones)
It's not like they ripped off C4E or anything, they probably only released it after the Benq firmware was out to help get sales while they can. I mean to the average user whats easier? A softmod just by connecting the drive to your PC and flashing the FW or soldering a chip to a bunch of pain in the ass points on the drive board? Most users will still use the firmware flashing method. Most people aren't good enough to solder to the small points on the board.
Its not like they figured out how to do the Benq after C4E did it within 24 hours or whatever. The Benq looks so easy to do too. Its only 4 solder points and thats it. Same thing for samsung. Also this has the same amount of solder points as the passkey does. Wait I think its 2 or 3 more.
Personally I feel that flashing your FW is safer, you never know if they will be able to detect these chips.
This post has been edited by BoNg420: Yesterday, 01:14 AM
Post by: mabcom on October 29, 2007, 05:53:00 AM
To Bad for them C4Eva beat them with releasing a free modified firwareGOOD BYE $$$ for team underdog GOOD BYE team under(a rock)dog
Post by: NKI Klepto on October 29, 2007, 06:00:00 AM
Post by: caster420 on October 29, 2007, 06:11:00 AM
QUOTE(NKI Klepto @ Oct 29 2007, 08:00 AM)
wow, why is everyone hating on this product. i think its wonderful that they made this, you now dont even need to worry about the whole iXtreme FW anymore, as this chip hides your firmware anyway, you can do many extra things with it for extra safety, relax, if you dnt like it, dont buy it, i think its wonderful. one question, how do u actually update the chip?
As Iriez stated, they obviously waitied and ripped off c4e's benq iXtreme firmware. So, i wouldnt say that it is any more safe (doesnt hide the firmware anymore than iXtreme) or a better firmware by any means. It can be setup to disable the LAN when going online, which would be the only additional feature i can see. AFAIK, you cant update the firmware, which is another downfall of this chip.
QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Oct 29 2007, 07:52 AM)
Its not like they figured out how to do the Benq after C4E did it within 24 hours or whatever. The Benq looks so easy to do too. Its only 4 solder points and thats it.
Yes, obviously they knew how to do it before, but DIDNT have the firmware to support the drive. Figuring out the pinout is the easy part. Thats why it was conveniently released 24 hours after iXtreme was released.
Caster.
This post has been edited by caster420: Oct 29 2007, 01:13 PM
Post by: proger on October 29, 2007, 06:55:00 AM
This post has been edited by proger: Oct 29 2007, 01:56 PM
Post by: nha on October 29, 2007, 06:58:00 AM
Plus surely there are a lot of good points to the idea of never touching your console drive bios - and instead adding an alternative.
Post by: bucko on October 29, 2007, 07:32:00 AM
Post by: 1nsan3 on October 29, 2007, 08:17:00 AM
Post by: GeToChKn on October 29, 2007, 08:27:00 AM
Some people might like the idea of being able to disable the chip, after all, everyone has their originals of ALL of their games to play online and save their console for any bans and can use their backups for the kids to play, etc, RIGHT???
I'm just curious if its still using their format of disc or it will burn any disc now? I think they went with their format because of the smaller wire count, so it still maybe their disc format, not sure. If so, that'll be the big downside is that everyone would to re-rip their games.
Post by: BoNg420 on October 29, 2007, 09:15:00 AM
QUOTE(proger @ Oct 29 2007, 08:55 AM)
The reason everyone is hating this product is because they are using other people's free work as a way to make money, plain and simple.
So then you don't like people that flash other people's xbox 360 for money? They are making money off "other people's free work".
Its the way of the world, make money off other people. If you find a way to do it, then do it. Free money is the best money.
At least you know you are getting a good quality product that works on multiple drives. The only bad part is it doesn't flash the drive. I would rather have something of this quality, then a pass key thats paper thin.
This post has been edited by BoNg420: Oct 29 2007, 04:16 PM
Post by: GeToChKn on October 29, 2007, 10:33:00 AM
Post by: xboxdweeb on October 29, 2007, 11:11:00 AM
Post by: cena4ever on October 29, 2007, 12:02:00 PM
Post by: telo{+} on October 29, 2007, 12:42:00 PM
I emailed them the day the initial bannings started asking if they knew what was going on and if their chip was safe from bannings. No response, so I emailed them once a week for a month, no responses.
I've been around long enough to know that this 'team' is a couple tools who have no idea how a business works (develop YOUR OWN product, and then SUPPORT it), they are just trying to get money.
Post by: nha on October 29, 2007, 01:27:00 PM
QUOTE(telo{+} @ Oct 29 2007, 08:42 PM)
I emailed them the day the initial bannings started asking if they knew what was going on and if their chip was safe from bannings. No response, so I emailed them once a week for a month, no responses.
Exactly the same here - I ended up removing the chip and going 100% legal as these guys are worse than MS when it comes to support and charges. I rather support MS because of guys like this!
This post has been edited by nha: Oct 29 2007, 08:28 PM
Post by: Tk_hom3r on October 29, 2007, 02:09:00 PM
Post by: Bubbalynch on October 29, 2007, 02:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Tk_hom3r @ Oct 29 2007, 09:09 PM)
so which one is better the passkey or this one?... i have a 79FK drive
Anything is better than the PassKey from the comments I've read...
Post by: ydgmms on February 02, 2020, 04:03:00 PM
QUOTE(cena4ever @ Oct 29 2007, 01:02 PM)
yeah it may be good for certain drives but, its still no safer. i do believe the last chip was suppose to be ban proof also but guess what it was discovered and the consoles were banned just like the softmod (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I don't believe anyone has ever said anything about being 'ban' proof.
They offer Live protection in the form of, 1)Chip that turns off with originals (come on, you're going on Live with originals RIGHT?) and 2) An optional wire that will disable the network port(now disables the USB port too for WLAN) when a backup is inserted.
They don't say 'u'll never get banned - end of story'. They say, 'we offer these protective measures if you choose to install them.'
Post by: cena4ever on February 02, 2020, 04:33:00 PM
QUOTE(ydgmms @ Oct 29 2007, 07:03 PM)
I don't believe anyone has ever said anything about being 'ban' proof.
They offer Live protection in the form of, 1)Chip that turns off with originals (come on, you're going on Live with originals RIGHT?) and 2) An optional wire that will disable the network port(now disables the USB port too for WLAN) when a backup is inserted.
They don't say 'u'll never get banned - end of story'. They say, 'we offer these protective measures if you choose to install them.'
well maybe banproof is not the word i was looking for.they make it seem like your system will be undectable with this modchip because it disables the network port when backups are used. that has been proven that ms can still detect your system is playing backups by the systems memory cache or? which means systems will be banned if the network port is disabled or not.you can argue all you want that this chip is great but all it is an alternative to modding drives that require the passkey it has no advantages over a softmod period.
This post has been edited by cena4ever: Yesterday, 12:36 AM
Post by: Iriez on February 02, 2020, 04:37:00 PM
QUOTE(ydgmms @ Oct 28 2007, 09:24 PM)
Had the NME2.0 come out less than 24hours before iXtreme BenQ, would you say the same? ...Nope.
Uh, seeing that we made it public that a release was soon, I would 100% still say the same. But, thanks for assuming...tool.
Post by: Iriez on February 02, 2020, 06:05:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Oct 29 2007, 08:32 AM)
Nice, finally a DVD mod chip that is worth having, if I was to have a backup 360 then I would probably install this in case I ever wanted to go on Live with original games in a full retail environment (non hacked firmware).
I really dont understand why people think this is a safer alternative.
...Its really not.
I think people presume that since there is a physical device instead of rewriting the dvd-rom's bios, that it adds more protection.
It does not.
Its very surprising that people still think with this mentality when the xbox1 has already explained this all for us. Do you think that modchips offered more protection? Because they didnt. They were banned from xblive just like TSOP flashes were.
The entire point is that modchips are not needed for xbox360. Not in any way shape or form, as of right now. Everything that can be done with a modchip, is actually done *better* by a internal firmware change. If you guys think the security is better on the chip, then you should research more.
As for disabling of the lan, so what? What happens when there is a kernal update that attempts to read upon boot? Disabling the lan aint gonna help you a bit there. But the protection in ixtreme has many, many safeguards that NME does not.
This post has been edited by Iriez: Yesterday, 02:14 AM
Post by: Hopeful on February 02, 2020, 07:11:00 PM
...What a joke
Post by: windex42 on February 02, 2020, 10:48:00 PM
I've got this 360 that was modded just fine, ran great, i tried flashing a new upgraded firmware and bricked my hitachi drive. right now i've got the chip de soldered, and the programmer i bought is defective. thats a lot of money thrown at this problem so far. to me, it sounds like this would be the solution i've been looking for, i could install the mod chip even with my blank bios and it would run, right? the only problem i'd have is that it would act bricked if my nme-360 chip was disabled. let me know your thoughts, or let me know if you have a programmer and would be willing to flash my chip. Thanks.
Post by: Sick0 on February 03, 2020, 02:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Oct 30 2007, 03:05 AM)
The entire point is that modchips are not needed for xbox360. Not in any way shape or form, as of right now. Everything that can be done with a modchip, is actually done *better* by a internal firmware change.
Ok if that is so, then tell me this, how am I going to flash my 79FL drive without a chip? I am very interested to do that without soldering a chip ...
Post by: caster420 on February 03, 2020, 04:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Sick0 @ Oct 30 2007, 05:24 AM)
Ok if that is so, then tell me this, how am I going to flash my 79FL drive without a chip? I am very interested to do that without soldering a chip ...
You can't but thats not what Iriez was referring to. You use a chip for a v79 (the one you're talking about anyways) to enable read/writing of the drive. Then you flash it with hacked firmware. It is not a patch on the fly solution, which is what Iriez is talking about.
Caster.
Post by: knodi on February 03, 2020, 07:48:00 AM
c4e's firmware is better and its free.
Post by: psychy on February 03, 2020, 08:45:00 AM
QUOTE(cena4ever @ Oct 29 2007, 08:02 PM)
I emailed them the day the initial bannings started asking if they knew what was going on and if their chip was safe from bannings. No response, so I emailed them once a week for a month, no responses.
I've been around long enough to know that this 'team' is a couple tools who have no idea how a business works (develop YOUR OWN product, and then SUPPORT it), they are just trying to get money.
I've been around long enough to know that this 'team' is a couple tools who have no idea how a business works (develop YOUR OWN product, and then SUPPORT it), they are just trying to get money.
same problem here. no support.
bought a nme chip. didn't work. burned a lot of different dvds with different writers, none worked. absolutely no support from these dogs (maybe they had no time because of... "1000s of hours of research and programming" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) ... then i removed the damn nme chip, flashed the drive, retried the dvds i had already burned: and this time every single copy was working.
so in my opinion team underdog sucks bad. just try to avoid them. then if you encounter an issue... it will be all yours.
This post has been edited by psychy: Yesterday, 04:45 PM
Post by: ydgmms on October 30, 2007, 12:16:00 PM
QUOTE(knodi @ Oct 30 2007, 09:48 AM)
Every single person that went on LIVE with the original NME got banned. When the ban hammer rolls out again this will be no different with the new NME.
c4e's firmware is better and its free.
Same can be said bout the pre-iXtreme firmwares. If you went onlive with a backup, odds are you were banned. Some with chips were lucky, some with Xtreme were lucky.
In the end, this argument goes in circle, someone says 'oh they ripped off c4eva,' yet claims c4evas firmware is safer, ... even though they apparently ripped off the coding.
Circular arguments are just a waste of time.... People want chips, therefore people are offering chips. People want to flash, therefore people are offering flashing services. Get over it, and more importantly, get over yourselves.