Post by: mikearama on August 07, 2007, 08:40:00 PM
I can boot Slax 2.1 without issue, and the drive enters ModeB and spins up fine, and I can reboot, BUT, with the drive attached, I get stopped every time during bootup at a linux screen indicating that if I want to partition the drive, etc, etc.
If I remove the sata cable, the drive leaves ModeB, so when I get into windows the drive isn't present.
Is there a trick to booting a PC with a Hitachi attached?
Thanks for the help,
Mike
Post by: BoNg420 on August 07, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
Also when slax is loading, open the dvd drive and put a game or movie in it.
Post by: mikearama on August 08, 2007, 06:01:00 AM
After booting through Slax (disc in drive, as you suggested), I can either use the 'reboot' command, or ctr-alt-del... either way Linux ejects the disc, which I remove.
On reboot, I get to the screen where my bios searches for RAID. On this screen is this text:
"Scan for Raid.
No Raid.
CTRL0 Chn10 Master HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR3120L - SATAPI Mode
Press <TAB> Key Into User Window
If you want to install Linux default partition raid driver, please do not use DPROM creation operation. "
I cannot get past this screen. TAB does nothing, nor does any key combination I can think of. I get the impression that my system doesn't agree with having the 3120 attached during boot, but I cannot remove it without losing ModeB.
Preciate any suggestions.
This post has been edited by mikearama: Aug 8 2007, 01:03 PM
Post by: danybloke on August 08, 2007, 01:39:00 PM
QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Aug 8 2007, 04:09 AM) 
I appreciate the suggestions. Here's where I'm at...
After booting through Slax (disc in drive, as you suggested), I can either use the 'reboot' command, or ctr-alt-del... either way Linux ejects the disc, which I remove.
On reboot, I get to the screen where my bios searches for RAID. On this screen is this text:
"Scan for Raid.
No Raid.
CTRL0 Chn10 Master HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR3120L - SATAPI Mode
Press <TAB> Key Into User Window
If you want to install Linux default partition raid driver, please do not use DPROM creation operation. "
I cannot get past this screen. TAB does nothing, nor does any key combination I can think of. I get the impression that my system doesn't agree with having the 3120 attached during boot, but I cannot remove it without losing ModeB.
Preciate any suggestions.
Have you tried turning your raid off?
In most the posts here they recommend turning raid off as a starter - I'm clutching at straws here!!
Let us know what happens
This post has been edited by danybloke: Aug 8 2007, 08:41 PM
Post by: mikearama on August 08, 2007, 05:24:00 PM
Now I have two MS replacement consoles here that arrived yesterday... both TS943's. One is an ms25, the other an ms28.
In both cases, the consoles worked when dropped off. Now, after flashing (both with Ix 1.2), the trays will not stay shut. Oh, they close, for about 3 seconds... then the 'Game' tab on the dashboard changes to "Opening", and out she comes.
Of note... if I power down the consoles, the tray will close, and then open again before the fan finally shuts off. Bugger me! I end up powering off, and then as soon as the tray closes, yank out the power cord.
I've returned both back to their orig.bin's, but no such luck... they still eject constantly. And since the trays won't stay shut, I cannot confirm whether originals or copies work.
Anyone experienced something like that? I'd appreciate any thoughts.
Post by: mikearama on August 08, 2007, 05:53:00 PM
Post by: nitroman28 on August 08, 2007, 06:21:00 PM
QUOTE(mikearama @ Aug 9 2007, 12:24 AM)
Never had this before, though I've seen the symptom posted a couple times.
Now I have two MS replacement consoles here that arrived yesterday... both TS943's. One is an ms25, the other an ms28.
In both cases, the consoles worked when dropped off. Now, after flashing (both with Ix 1.2), the trays will not stay shut. Oh, they close, for about 3 seconds... then the 'Game' tab on the dashboard changes to "Opening", and out she comes.
Of note... if I power down the consoles, the tray will close, and then open again before the fan finally shuts off. Bugger me! I end up powering off, and then as soon as the tray closes, yank out the power cord.
I've returned both back to their orig.bin's, but no such luck... they still eject constantly. And since the trays won't stay shut, I cannot confirm whether originals or copies work.
Anyone experienced something like that? I'd appreciate any thoughts.
Sounds like it's still in modeB have you tried shutting the tray then right as it shuts hit eject again and see if it stays in?
Post by: beeny on August 09, 2007, 12:09:00 AM
Post by: Pikeyp on August 09, 2007, 12:30:00 AM
This prevents the carriage assembly from lifting up to the correct height when the tray slides all the way in.
Because the carriage then jams the unit automatically spits the drive tray back out.
If it has come away just superglue it back into the drive's centre spindle being careful not to use excessive glue or you will glue the spindle and stop it rotating
.I have seen this on my own console.
I am not sure that this is the problem that you have (it's very strange that you are getting after a flash but may just be a coincidence) but it's definately worth looking at.
Hope this helps....
Post by: myfranco on August 09, 2007, 12:22:00 PM
2nd method when you press eject button,while the tray is closing,double press the eject method.This method works for hitachis but can work for you too.
Post by: mikearama on August 09, 2007, 06:10:00 PM
The EJECT idea worked. I wouldn't have thought it possible, and yet, first try.
Thanks kindly beeny.
Post by: mikearama on August 09, 2007, 06:26:00 PM
Francy... neither made a difference.
Here's something interesting... with the covers off (but a disc sitting in tray), I fired up both consoles. When the tray closes, the laser fires up, but discs do not spin. Then, after 3-4 seconds, it ejects.
Perhaps the culprit is the lack of spinning. Is there anything checkable and/or configurable in that regard?
Post by: mikearama on August 09, 2007, 07:38:00 PM
And guess what... just happened to me, while flashing an ms28. Go figure. Right in the middle of flashing the third sector... toast.
I have the orig.bin and the ixtreme1.2 on both a usb key, and a floppy. The issue is that the drive refuses to flash. Using the bad flash method, with everything from 1 second delay, to 15. Nothing.
If this is in a tutorial somewhere, I couldn't find it, and would appreciate any thoughts/suggestions. Can a bricked drive like this be saved?
Post by: -PK- on August 10, 2007, 04:21:00 AM
Hope this works. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: -PK- on August 10, 2007, 04:25:00 AM
Post by: mikearama on August 10, 2007, 05:31:00 AM
QUOTE(-PK- @ Aug 10 2007, 11:21 AM) 
If that doesn't work you can get another sata device plug it in to the primary sata port and power it on, go through the flashing process and when you get to the device selection screen power off the sata device & swap with the 360 drive, press the number next to Xtreme Pri Master, and power on the 360.
Hope this works.
PK... WOW! Not in a million years would I have thought this would work. How's unplugging another sata device and swapping in the problematic ms28 drive any different than powering down the ms28 and bringing it back up??? And yet... voila! She worked... flashed beautifully.
Thanks kindly for the suggestion.
Mike
Post by: mikearama on August 10, 2007, 06:11:00 AM
I'm really thinking I have a spindle motor problem on both of them... like I said, with the top off, I can see the tray close, the laser fire up, but no disc movement... then the eject.
By the way, on both of them, the center light on the front indicators blinks constantly. The outer ring lights do their normal boot up sequence, but that center light just flashes constantly. Anyone think that indicates something specific?
Post by: mikearama on August 11, 2007, 01:25:00 PM
I have two drives, an ms25 and an ms28... both are currently sitting with their original firmwares. Both drives eject the tray, regardless of what's in the tray. I can close the tray with the eject button, but after a three-count, the tray ejects, every time. On the screen, it will change to Opening Tray, every time.
I've checked everything I can think of. The tray appears to fully close and engage, and the laser lights up briefly. As the post above explains, though... no disc spinning whatsoever, regardless of disc type. If anyone has ANY ideas, please share. Particularly regarding the behavior of the center light that I mention in the previous post.
THanks kindly.
Post by: -PK- on August 11, 2007, 04:42:00 PM
If it's not coming out of modeB, you could try inserting the 0800 disc (has to be DL disc) if you can get it to spin up with the above method (without the powercycle) to put it fully back in to modeb. Then do the above again (with power cycling this time) to remove it.
Or if you can get the drive recognised in windows there might be manual commands to send the drive to remove modeB, not sure what they would be though (you'd have to search xboxhacker.net to see if it can be done).
Post by: -PK- on August 11, 2007, 04:41:00 PM
QUOTE(mikearama @ Aug 10 2007, 01:07 PM)
How's unplugging another sata device and swapping in the problematic ms28 drive any different than powering down the ms28 and bringing it back up???
Mtkflash only lists detectable hardware. The sata card uses some sata specifications to initialize hardware when it gets plugged in and if the device is unsupported or if it fails to respond (no bios), the card itself wont recognize the drive and mtkflash is clueless.
The thing is, the idea of device selection in mtkflash is just to put a "label" on the port so the end user knows what they are attempting to flash, this is completely unneeded and by swaping drives your simply force-flashing on to the selected port. If we had the source code for mtkflash we could make it always flash in this manor and it would only require powering up the console once after giving the command, but users would end up flashing their hard drives and other devices because they're too lazy to disconnect them. MS on the other hand could use this same technique to fingerprint the fw (assuming they have access to low-level commands before the dash boots), which is why many people are cautious of what the last update did and why it took a minute when booting (note that ms could further reduce such time by reading only 1 bank instead of all 4).
Post by: ssyoda on August 13, 2007, 09:18:00 PM
Post by: -PK- on August 13, 2007, 10:31:00 PM
QUOTE(ssyoda @ Aug 14 2007, 04:18 AM)
Hey guys I just wanted to know if someone can help me step by step on how to flash my Sammy MS-28, I have flashed hitachi drives before. I have IExtreme V 1.2 and jump drive what else do I need thanks?
Don't hijack threads. Read the pinned thread containing Tutorials, and under Guides for the TSH943 drive use the "Textbook's Hitachi/Samsung super tutorial"
This post has been edited by -PK-: Aug 14 2007, 05:31 AM