Post by: Xbox-Scene on May 29, 2007, 09:16:00 PM
iXtreme firmware 1.0 for TS-H943 Xbox 360 Posted by Iriez | May 29 22:40 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
| A new firmware replacement for the TS-H943 xbox360 drive Features (v1.0) Defeats all current and some future Xbox Live detection attempts (v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 360 backups (v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups (v1.0) Boots all Xbox 360 originals (v1.0) Boots all Xbox 1 originals on Xbox 360 Use on Xbox Live at own risk!! Thanks to everyone on #FW, Xboxhacker.net , Xbox-Scene.com, Maxconsole.com and Xbins.Org for their support. Keep up the good work everyone. If you prefer to use Xbox Boot Maker,grab the updated definitions here Note: Hitachi version is in progress. No eta. Official Site: n/a (by commodore4eva) Download: n/a (May be illegal under EULA/DMCA) News-Source: xbins.org |
Post by: Iriez on May 29, 2007, 08:42:00 PM
Updated news. Hitachi is already a WIP. No eta. Dont ask.
June 1st update: Users who are having issues with samtool transfering the key over (and who originally had a hitachi) are having this issue due to 2 bytes in the key location that should be 0D but instead are FF. The issue was actually fixed, but somehow the pre-key fix bin got packaged as the final. I have re-updated the package on xbins to contain the version with the correct key placement.
Ignore the above if your key was successfully copied with samtool.
This post has been edited by Iriez: Jun 2 2007, 01:11 AM
Post by: hecz on May 29, 2007, 08:44:00 PM
Post by: UB6_IB9 on May 29, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
I'm gunna wait and see if anyone get banned with this new firmware before I try it on live.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 29, 2007, 08:46:00 PM
Post by: knodi on May 29, 2007, 08:46:00 PM
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Post by: sosotiit on May 29, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
and Media Stealth: What is needed and How To Verify, (DMI, PFI, Video Partition, Samsung SS)
also
QUOTE
Some Rules
BEFORE POSTING YOU MUST FIRST READ THE POSTING RULES ANS THE PINNED,
You must also SEARCH and read the previous posts such that you do not ask the same question again
-no Off topic discussion: this is limited to discussion in IXtreme firmwareand not a debate thread
-discussing Backups on Live
-no use of illegal copies
-no retail fraud discussion
-no antagonistic posts (telling others they are retard, dumb...)
-NO THEORIES ON BAN this is the technical section (read the pinned The Spring 2007 Ban Thread as there is a place for that I Been Banned? SPRING 2007, Theories, News).
-all other rules still applies
-soso
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Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 29, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
Post by: Nerdz on May 29, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
I am waiting for the Hitachi-LG version
Post by: jamie123 on May 29, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
Post by: itchy on May 29, 2007, 08:51:00 PM
Post by: TheIrishLad on May 29, 2007, 08:51:00 PM
Post by: Cargasm on May 29, 2007, 08:52:00 PM
Post by: 89c4l98 on May 29, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 29, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: Grim187 on May 29, 2007, 08:21:00 PM
im gonna keep my original fw on there atleast untill h3 beta is over
QUOTE(89c4l98 @ May 29 2007, 07:55 PM) 
I'm surprised the readme was no more informative.. l
to keep M$ in the dark
Post by: ilovecrack on May 29, 2007, 08:58:00 PM
no homo
Post by: HansiHusten on May 29, 2007, 08:23:00 PM
Keep up the good work guys!
Who will test it?
Post by: lucho on May 29, 2007, 09:00:00 PM
Much appreciated.
Luis
Post by: Tsmith10803 on May 29, 2007, 09:03:00 PM
Post by: selivus on May 29, 2007, 09:06:00 PM
Post by: neoark on May 29, 2007, 08:35:00 PM
wait for hitachi and benq drivers..... maxiums and garyopa waiting for relese, great job
Post by: Zod5000 on May 29, 2007, 08:40:00 PM
Post by: schnoid on May 29, 2007, 08:40:00 PM
Post by: Albut35 on May 29, 2007, 09:19:00 PM
Post by: Sloppy Fat Dump on May 29, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on May 29, 2007, 09:22:00 PM
now its time to try and find out what methods were used, figure out if my offline console is already banned, and if not, maybe i can sell my live only box.
sweet job... relentless work...
Post by: ratis on May 29, 2007, 09:23:00 PM
Post by: PerfectGun on May 29, 2007, 09:26:00 PM
Word on the street is a Hitch version should be coming out very soon as well.
I love the way he kept the details out of the info and hasn't made a huge post about what he's done.
Post by: wolfienuke on May 29, 2007, 08:52:00 PM
BTW, since the new version of XBC, all video sectors come back as "Video is questionable". Will this disk be refused by the iXteme FW, or is it an error in the program? I have posted/searched on XBH with no reply from Redline99. Also, there have been discussions about PFI sectors being different on some (Only 1 AFAIK) games - Star Trek Legacy. Is this taken into consideration and is there a reason for this inconsistency?
Thank you to all who have contributed in any way, you have amazed me (and probably M$) with you ability to stay 1 step ahead (at least).
Post by: rgtaa on May 29, 2007, 09:29:00 PM
key from ix10.bin is version ms28.
Then gives WARNING
Drive version do not match!
Would you like to copy the orig.bin version to 1x10bin? (Y/N)
Not clear what I should do?
It wasn't in readme, and I don't know what to do?
Post by: RGSPro on May 29, 2007, 09:30:00 PM
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Post by: johnnobts on May 29, 2007, 09:32:00 PM
Is this a big deal?
Post by: eatshitanddie on May 29, 2007, 09:33:00 PM
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 29, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
Post by: ric27 on May 29, 2007, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: Shroomer on May 29, 2007, 08:59:00 PM
Awesome work my friend!
Post by: Lastrite on May 29, 2007, 09:37:00 PM
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Post by: mike96sc2 on May 29, 2007, 09:44:00 PM
I remember when the last firmware came out it was supposed to protect from detection, worked out well huh?
I won't be satisfied until there's some kind of semi-legit scene vs. the "backup" community.
I long for the days of Dreamcast homebrew, legal dev kit, good homebrew games and ports, only thing that was infringing was Sega's IP.bin but I believe eventually even that was re-done.
Post by: KiLL CraZy on May 29, 2007, 09:44:00 PM
Post by: Jakerzon on May 29, 2007, 09:49:00 PM
High 5, C4E! When I read the post, I kinda got aroused. Starting to calm down now, though.
<deep breaths>
k, i'm good.
Post by: magokbr on May 29, 2007, 09:17:00 PM
i have a sansung drive (ms28) and my xbox is flashed with 5.2 xtreme and not banned, i never play a backup games in live, only oryginals. this xbox get enter in firt time in live a few days after Bam microsoft!
my question:
I cam update de firmware to ixtreme with no problem?
or i play with old firmware and prey to holy spirit?
my first flashed with 5.2 was maked with power suply (360)connected. i try the update fimware or not?
sorry for my english and tks for your help!
Post by: Iriez on May 29, 2007, 09:17:00 PM
QUOTE(89c4l98 @ May 29 2007, 09:55 PM) 
I'm surprised the readme was no more informative.. l
What else needs to be said? The features are there. The included bat file handles key transfer and spoofing. People who are modding for the first time will need to find a tutorial anyways, and users who already have know how.
Post by: Shroomer on May 29, 2007, 09:56:00 PM
QUOTE
I long for the days of Dreamcast homebrew, legal dev kit, good homebrew games and ports, only thing that was infringing was Sega's IP.bin but I believe eventually even that was re-done.
If thats what you long for...you need a fug'n life.
DC was fun, but its done man...was done like 8 years ago.
Thanks C4E...
Post by: tankertux on May 29, 2007, 09:56:00 PM
Also, what is a good tool to check my backups to see if I've got stealth correctly implemented before burning the backup?
Post by: CLShortFuse on May 29, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
Muchas gracias por todo tu trabajo. Creo que todos los usuarios en este foro piensa lo mismo que yo: No hay manera como expresar, en plenitud, la gratitud que sentimos por todo el trabajo que tú sigues haciendo. Yo, como programador, entiendo que no fácil y algunas veces quienes usan los "programas" no lo valoran. Pero si, hay muchos aquí que nunca se quejan porque se pueden imaginar que no es fácil. Sabemos que tampoco, en realidad, tienes que repartir estos archivos. Siempre recuerdes que la comunidad siempre valora tu trabajo.
Translation: Thanks a bunch! (Seriously, Spanish is that complicated)
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on May 29, 2007, 09:25:00 PM
I will be updating soon, hopefully i'm not already banned... (been offline since the banning news broke out)
Post by: j5350 on May 29, 2007, 09:33:00 PM
The work you guys put in is remarkable. Hope this is the last one we need (probably not 
) But we'll give it a shot. Can't thank you enough. 
Post by: RiPpN-N-TrIppN on May 29, 2007, 09:38:00 PM
easy
btw awsome work on the new FW hopefully its ban proof
hopefully the hitachi comes out soon as well i havnt been on live since the bannings first took place and i
miss my poker
awsome work keep it up
Rip
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 29, 2007, 10:15:00 PM
QUOTE(CLShortFuse @ May 29 2007, 10:57 PM) 
man, i hope c4e can patch the hitachi lg. c4e was doubting he could do it. i think it might be time to swap my dvd drive. and c4e, since i know you speak spanish,
Muchas gracias por todo tu trabajo. Creo que todos los usuarios en este foro piensa lo mismo que yo: No hay manera como expresar, en plenitud, la gratitud que sentimos por todo el trabajo que tú sigues haciendo. Yo, como programador, entiendo que no fácil y algunas veces quienes usan los "programas" no lo valoran. Pero si, hay muchos aquí que nunca se quejan porque se pueden imaginar que no es fácil. Sabemos que tampoco, en realidad, tienes que repartir estos archivos. Siempre recuerdes que la comunidad siempre valora tu trabajo.
Translation: Thanks a bunch! (Seriously, Spanish is that complicated)
one instance : "[09:54] <oNee> is the hlg fw going to have all the security features as the sammy fw (incl. all stealth and pfi/dmi checks)?
[09:55] <c4eva> onee:yes"
second instance: "ruffrydaz> c4e : do you think samsungs will be more safe than hitachis with ixtreme?
<c4eva> ruff:almost the same, sammy has firmguard, hitachi will have safecode both will be stealth disk"
IT'S ALL GOOD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
Post by: mrjkwik on May 29, 2007, 09:42:00 PM
QUOTE
Drive versions do not match!!!
Would you like to copy the orig.bin version to the ix10.bin? (Y/N):
Would you like to copy the orig.bin version to the ix10.bin? (Y/N):
This happened to me, as I have a ms25 drive, and figure only those of us with ms25's are getting it.
I am assuming that if you press "N", that the resulting firmware will be default to ms28.
And if you press "Y", the resulting firmware is "spoofed" as ms25.
Perhaps someone can confirm this to put others at ease.
Post by: xJACKASSx on May 29, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ May 30 2007, 05:18 AM)
I see there have been some quesitons about this error message:
This happened to me, as I have a ms25 drive, and figure only those of us with ms25's are getting it.
I am assuming that if you press "N", that the resulting firmware will be default to ms28.
And if you press "Y", the resulting firmware is "spoofed" as ms25.
Perhaps someone can confirm this to put others at ease.
i'm getting this to, so i hit yes open the firmware up in firmware toolbox and it says it's ms25 ...
But i still do not want to flash, not sure if we are suppose to spoof it as ms28 or not
Post by: Lush on May 29, 2007, 09:50:00 PM
Post by: k0mpresd on May 29, 2007, 09:51:00 PM
just flashed my console
hopefully i will stay unbanned
Post by: ric27 on May 29, 2007, 10:31:00 PM
QUOTE(CLShortFuse @ May 29 2007, 10:57 PM)
man, i hope c4e can patch the hitachi lg. c4e was doubting he could do it. i think it might be time to swap my dvd drive. and c4e, since i know you speak spanish,
Muchas gracias por todo tu trabajo. Creo que todos los usuarios en este foro piensa lo mismo que yo: No hay manera como expresar, en plenitud, la gratitud que sentimos por todo el trabajo que tú sigues haciendo. Yo, como programador, entiendo que no fácil y algunas veces quienes usan los "programas" no lo valoran. Pero si, hay muchos aquí que nunca se quejan porque se pueden imaginar que no es fácil. Sabemos que tampoco, en realidad, tienes que repartir estos archivos. Siempre recuerdes que la comunidad siempre valora tu trabajo.
Translation: Thanks a bunch! (Seriously, Spanish is that complicated)
Es un placer leer tus comentarios sobre c4e
Gracias por tus comentarios. Son, en verdad, reveladores
Post by: mrjkwik on May 29, 2007, 10:47:00 PM
QUOTE(xJACKASSx @ May 30 2007, 12:23 AM)
i'm getting this to, so i hit yes open the firmware up in firmware toolbox and it says it's ms25 ...
But i still do not want to flash, not sure if we are suppose to spoof it as ms28 or not
So the question that needs to be answered then...
Should those of us with MS25 drives spoof iXtreme to MS25, or let it default to MS28.
Its funny to me in a way...Whats safer
Having a ms25 drive with ms28 firmware...
or
Having a ms25 drive with ms28 firmware that pretends to be ms25.
Post by: xJACKASSx on May 29, 2007, 10:49:00 PM
QUOTE(xJACKASSx @ May 30 2007, 05:23 AM)
i'm getting this to, so i hit yes open the firmware up in firmware toolbox and it says it's ms25 ...
But i still do not want to flash, not sure if we are suppose to spoof it as ms28 or not
I went ahead and updated my 360.
I did have 5.3c installed pior to the spring update and was not banned.
Been playing backups offline with no harddrive attach.
I sign into live so far, have not tried playing a backup yet.
As for the questions go about:
Should those of us with MS25 drives spoof iXtreme to MS25, or let it default to MS28.
I hit yes and open firmware up in firmware toolbox it said it was ms25.
So it's up to you what you want to do.
Post by: tankertux on May 29, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
QUOTE(ghettoc401 @ May 30 2007, 05:35 AM)
Xbox DVDMulleter
Thanks. Is this preferred over Xbox Backup Creator?
Post by: Xx The 0ne xX on May 29, 2007, 10:19:00 PM
Post by: sp1200 on May 29, 2007, 10:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Iriez @ May 30 2007, 04:53 AM)
What else needs to be said? The features are there. The included bat file handles key transfer and spoofing. People who are modding for the first time will need to find a tutorial anyways, and users who already have know how.
What about the whole 'do not flash drive without it being powered from xbox360'.
Post by: Kalabaza on May 29, 2007, 11:00:00 PM
Last year with another update from microsoft a lot of people was having problems with the error E66, that was because the console was originally shipped with an ms25 drive but as I did it, some people updated the firmware to the latest available, wich was based on ms28 drives.
Maybe this is the message that some people are recieving at the time of creating the new ixtreme firmware. If your original firmware was ms25 the you must use an spoof ms25 ixtreme.
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 29, 2007, 10:27:00 PM
Im gonna just wait a couple of days for the Hitachi...I want no extra reasons for being banned, again
Post by: Sankyou on May 29, 2007, 11:57:00 PM
c4e does it again!! hell yeah good work!
Post by: purepwnage12560 on May 29, 2007, 11:25:00 PM
Post by: keine on May 30, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
QUOTE
So the question that needs to be answered then...
Should those of us with MS25 drives spoof iXtreme to MS25, or let it default to MS28.
Its funny to me in a way...Whats safer
Having a ms25 drive with ms28 firmware...
or
Having a ms25 drive with ms28 firmware that pretends to be ms25.
Should those of us with MS25 drives spoof iXtreme to MS25, or let it default to MS28.
Its funny to me in a way...Whats safer
Having a ms25 drive with ms28 firmware...
or
Having a ms25 drive with ms28 firmware that pretends to be ms25.
That question needs to be answered. Very badly. How dangerous is spoofing?
This post has been edited by keine: May 30 2007, 07:13 AM
Post by: xcraft on May 30, 2007, 12:09:00 AM
Since my xbox360 have never gone to XBOX Live, I just played the game in offline. However, when I flashed my xbox 360 with 5.3fw, I used the xbox360 to be a power supply so that it should generate the e64 error to be logged in my machine, right? What ever I flashed my machine with iXtreem, M$ could check this error and ban my machine.
What's the solution can remove the log of e64 error in the machine?
Thank you
This post has been edited by xcraft: May 30 2007, 07:13 AM
Post by: Knalleballetje on May 29, 2007, 11:53:00 PM
QUOTE(xcraft @ May 30 2007, 08:09 AM)
How about the previous fw?
Since my xbox360 have never gone to XBOX Live, I just played the game in offline. However, when I flashed my xbox 360 with 5.3fw, I used the xbox360 to be a power supply so that it should generate the e64 error to be logged in my machine, right? What ever I flashed my machine with iXtreem, M$ could check this error and ban my machine.
What's the solution can remove the log of e64 error in the machine?
Thank you
very risky
i have read that if you boot up your 360 without a dvd-drive sata-cable connected, M$ will see this as an attempt to flash fw. i hope you're not banned yet
Post by: ideas_man69 on May 30, 2007, 12:35:00 AM
but just say i've had an untouched original on Live!, is it advised not to flash as they can probably detect firmware changes?
Post by: sirsmooth on May 30, 2007, 12:37:00 AM
I have skimmed the thread and I have already seen it asked about 7 times, someone must have an answer.
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 30, 2007, 12:37:00 AM
Keep doin ya thing C4E
This post has been edited by TIME2PLAYDAGAME: May 30 2007, 07:38 AM
Post by: felizpicano on May 30, 2007, 12:47:00 AM
QUOTE(ric27 @ May 30 2007, 05:31 AM)
Es un placer leer tus comentarios sobre c4e
Gracias por tus comentarios. Son, en verdad, reveladores
viva la raza!
Post by: kalle_19 on May 30, 2007, 12:48:00 AM
Post by: subse7enx on May 30, 2007, 12:18:00 AM
QUOTE(kalle_19 @ May 29 2007, 11:48 PM)
Does this fw work for both samsung dvd versions?
Yes it appers so. MS25 and MS28 drives
Post by: Sankyou on May 30, 2007, 01:10:00 AM
I have had the ms25 with every major firmware include ms25->28->reporting as ms25 and ms25->28 reporting as ms28. Now just flashed with iXtreme and answered 'Yes' to continue after the warning. Everything is solid and have been playing on live all night.
Post by: krawhitham on May 30, 2007, 12:38:00 AM
QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ May 30 2007, 04:16 AM)
(v1.0) Defeats all current and some future Xbox Live detection attempts
Now that is a bold statement, but I think we heard the same thing before
Good work guys, hope it works this time. I'm still waiting for homebrew before I do anything
Post by: sicknasty413 on May 30, 2007, 01:14:00 AM
I think I may just flash one of my 360s when the Hitachi version comes out...I love having 3 360s..all with damn Hitachi drives
lol...I'm kinda too cheap to buy D/L DVDs though
Keep it up!
Post by: wellmodded on May 30, 2007, 01:37:00 AM
Post by: skel28 on May 30, 2007, 01:39:00 AM
QUOTE(sirsmooth @ May 30 2007, 07:37 AM)
Jesus, will someone who knows what they are talking about please answer the ms25 to ms28 questions please?
I have skimmed the thread and I have already seen it asked about 7 times, someone must have an answer.
Then why don't you try reading it instead of skimming it, it has been answered already.
If you have an ms25 then select YES. This firmware is based on ms28 and you have to spoof your console into thinking it's still ms25.
Clear now?
Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 01:04:00 AM
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ May 29 2007, 11:47 PM)
So the question that needs to be answered then...
Should those of us with MS25 drives spoof iXtreme to MS25, or let it default to MS28.
Its funny to me in a way...Whats safer
Having a ms25 drive with ms28 firmware...
or
Having a ms25 drive with ms28 firmware that pretends to be ms25.
Clicking 'yes' will transfer the drive version strings accordingly (ms25 to ms25) however, e66 allows for upgrades (but not downgrades) so spoofing as ms28 is ALSO fine. So, no sweat guys, you can do either and your fine. Neither is better or worse.
QUOTE(sp1200 @ May 29 2007, 11:58 PM)
What about the whole 'do not flash drive without it being powered from xbox360'.
It was speculation (along with about 300 other things). We have no proof that they are using that as a basis. We will just have to let time tell if it will become a issue. I highly doubt it though.
Post by: woleg79 on May 30, 2007, 01:40:00 AM
Post by: mrjkwik on May 30, 2007, 01:13:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ May 30 2007, 03:40 AM)
Clicking 'yes' will transfer the drive version strings accordingly (ms25 to ms25) however, e66 allows for upgrades (but not downgrades) so spoofing as ms28 is ALSO fine. So, no sweat guys, you can do either and your fine. Neither is better or worse.
Thanks for clarifying that Iriez.
Post by: Sir Mix Alot on May 30, 2007, 01:50:00 AM
so, it's really necessary to redo my whole backup lib again to stealth ones? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
well, better than nothing and than stays offline
i hope NOW c4e kill every single chance of m$ detects and ban us
time to sell my banned box, get new one and try out this baby
i've renewed my xbox live gold acc few days before the hammer, i'm glad my money doesn't go to trash
when i got my brand new box i post here the results.
thanks again c4e and still stay with us
This post has been edited by Sir Mix Alot: May 30 2007, 08:50 AM
Post by: feflicker on May 30, 2007, 01:17:00 AM
- MS28 drive.
- After I did the spring update I removed my network cable, haven't connected to Live since. Coincidentally, a few days later after I upgraded the bannings started.
- I've only played backups offline in the meantime, that pass the DVD Mulleter stealth tests.
- I haven't played a game on Live since COD3 came out, MONTHS ago. (Actual Live match).
- I do, however, have my dash set to auto-connect to Live. So it is ALWAYS connected to Live in the background.
- I upgraded to iXtreme 1.0 tonight, and tried to connect to Live, NADA. Z codes abound, I was banned.
I guess this means that you don't have to play the games on Live, just be connected to Live in the background while playing a game to get banned
There were some early backups I was using that didn't have all of the "stealth" info on the disc, so I'm guesing those were the culprits...
I guess its time to get ANOTHER 360 (which will be my 4th console because 2 others died on me, and now this one is banned).
In other news, I still have my original Xbox 1 (unbanned)... Back on topic: Thanks C4EVA for your hard work on this, hopefully my soon to be purchased core console will be on Live for another year with your iXtreme release
Post by: ZakMcRofl on May 30, 2007, 01:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ May 30 2007, 09:40 AM)
Clicking 'yes' will transfer the drive version strings accordingly (ms25 to ms25) however, e66 allows for upgrades (but not downgrades) so spoofing as ms28 is ALSO fine. So, no sweat guys, you can do either and your fine. Neither is better or worse.
I know you're somewhat of a guru but I disagree:
If e66 really allows updates then MS-28 version-id ('no') seems a much better choice for MS-25 owners. Why? Because iXtreme, just like every Firmguarded Xtreme FW, is based on MS-28. Spoofing to MS-25 will make it easier to detect because no real MS-25 has read/write protection.
Please correct me if my logic is flawed.
Post by: ProphetOfPain on May 30, 2007, 02:02:00 AM
I put in a non-stealth disc and the tray just said "reading". Never did anything else.
Post by: scraggers on May 30, 2007, 01:30:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ May 30 2007, 08:40 AM)
'What about the whole 'do not flash drive without it being powered from xbox360'.'
It was speculation (along with about 300 other things). We have no proof that they are using that as a basis. We will just have to let time tell if it will become a issue. I highly doubt it though.
Right with you on that one! I have an ms25 that has been flashed twice (5.2D - 5.3D and still not banned). If this is somehow logged in the hardware as an error or attempt to flash then I'm buggered anyway! I will still use the 360's power for iXtreme.
I do not think that they will target you with a ban with a log of just this error though. With 2,000,000+ units sold this error could occur naturally with a loose connection. It may be one of the things they look but it would need more than just this.
I am watching this thread avidly. It will be 8 hours before I flash (at work).
Good luck everyone!
Post by: midnightcharger2 on May 30, 2007, 01:44:00 AM
I myself do truly congratualte C4E though for all his hard work for the scene
Post by: Trune on May 30, 2007, 02:26:00 AM
feflicker, so you got banned after flashing to the firmware? or were you banned before you did it?
Also, since the ban, ive been unbanned, and running my xbox 360 with the sata cable unplugged. I'm still not banned. Have plugged the drive back in now, still not banned. I flashed my drive twice using the xbox 360 power supply. And again, im not banned.
However, does c64 actually know what they are doing now?
I.e if i change to this firmware, could it increase my chances of being banned due to ms seeing firmwares changed again?
For the record i dont play games on live, i just use it to talk to people and download content. I dont / never have played halo etc.
I'm struggling to work out how a firmware can be written which beats all ms's checks unless we know what their checks are for sure?
Post by: mufaa on May 30, 2007, 01:54:00 AM
Now begins the waiting period....and i am curious how MS will come back....if at all!
Post by: admast on May 30, 2007, 02:15:00 AM
QUOTE(feflicker @ May 30 2007, 08:53 AM)
Some Notes:
- After I did the spring update I removed my network cable, haven't connected to Live since. Coincidentally, a few days later after I upgraded the bannings started.
- I do, however, have my dash set to auto-connect to Live. So it is ALWAYS connected to Live in the background.
- I upgraded to iXtreme 1.0 tonight, and tried to connect to Live, NADA. Z codes abound, I was banned.
Sorry for asking but... first You say that "After I did the spring update I removed my network cable, haven't connected to Live since. " then You say "I do, however, have my dash set to auto-connect to Live. So it is ALWAYS connected to Live in the background."
So did You remove network cable or not? Please decide
Post by: Link00y on May 30, 2007, 02:51:00 AM
let's hope M$ is not able to find out the console or drive date - if they can, I guess MS25 users will be their target - MS28 users should be safe.. their firmwares have firmguards and as firmguard exists Ms will probably be unable to find the banned drives!
Post by: Valver on May 30, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
QUOTE(ZakMcRofl @ May 30 2007, 09:59 AM)
I know you're somewhat of a guru but I disagree:
If e66 really allows updates then MS-28 version-id ('no') seems a much better choice for MS-25 owners. Why? Because iXtreme, just like every Firmguarded Xtreme FW, is based on MS-28. Spoofing to MS-25 will make it easier to detect because no real MS-25 has read/write protection.
Please correct me if my logic is flawed.
The situation is further complicated for users who have an MS25 drive and have flashed previously.
If they used an MS28 based hacked firmware and spoofed it as MS25 then they could use either iXtreme option and should be fine. However an MS25 to MS28 version change could be picked up. So maybe continuing to spoof as MS25 is the better bet for this example. This is what I think needs some further clarification.
The other situation is if the MS25 drive used a previous flash with an MS28 based hacked firmware and they left it reporting as MS28 (ie they did the MS25 to MS28 version upgrade a while back) they then CANT spoof back to MS25 surely? Otherwise the dash will notice a DOWNGRADE in version number and E66 on them? (or worse, insta-ban)
So you cant just say "use Yes" or "use No". It depends on what they did previsouly, and what version their drive is currently telling the dash it is...
Anyway - great work C4E. You get my thanks!
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 30, 2007, 03:19:00 AM
I feel like im missing something...its 5am...feel free to chime in if im missing a step.
Post by: MythiK on May 30, 2007, 03:21:00 AM
Now we need a little application to check ixtreme compatibility image backup before burning! Who take this point? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
This post has been edited by MythiK: May 30 2007, 10:22 AM
Post by: seaweed on May 30, 2007, 02:46:00 AM
Cant wait for the Hitachi version to come out, shouldnt be long, great work c4eva
Post by: xmgr on May 30, 2007, 03:23:00 AM
QUOTE(wellmodded @ May 30 2007, 08:37 AM)
just wondering if i don;t ever plan on playing on xboxlive what are the advantage of having this FW
This fw has less functionality than previous ones so dont flash to it unless you want to connect to live with less risk of banning, e.g. if you think that M$ might be logging offline play and reporting it.
This post has been edited by xmgr: May 30 2007, 10:29 AM
Post by: Valver on May 30, 2007, 02:53:00 AM
QUOTE(xmgr @ May 30 2007, 11:23 AM)
none. This fw has less functionality than previous ones so dont flash to it unless you want to play on live with less risk of banning..
Hmmm They may choose to not to play games on Live, but they might want the dash updates etc in future. And if the current dash logs theyve played backups offline, it'll ban them as soon as they try to get the dash update.
Would have been more informative if the OP had said "I never want to connect to Live ever again" or similar. What theyve said is a bit vague...
(edit: ah, I see you've edited your post to say sommat similar anyhow... I was too quick for you
)
Post by: xmgr on May 30, 2007, 03:30:00 AM
QUOTE(Valver @ May 30 2007, 10:29 AM)
Hmmm They may choose to not to play games on Live, but they might want the dash updates etc in future. And if the current dash logs theyve played backups offline, it'll ban them as soon as they try to get the dash update.
Would have been more informative if the OP had said "I never want to connect to Live ever again" or similar. What theyve said is a bit vague...
Yes, i realised that and edited my post whilst you were replying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 30, 2007, 02:56:00 AM
Post by: bmonster007 on May 30, 2007, 03:03:00 AM
QUOTE(Valver @ May 30 2007, 10:29 AM)
Hmmm They may choose to not to play games on Live, but they might want the dash updates etc in future. And if the current dash logs theyve played backups offline, it'll ban them as soon as they try to get the dash update.
Would have been more informative if the OP had said "I never want to connect to Live ever again" or similar. What theyve said is a bit vague...
(edit: ah, I see you've edited your post to say sommat similar anyhow... I was too quick for you
)You can update via CD or a none banned console, so shouldn't be a problem.
Post by: bigmac161 on May 30, 2007, 03:40:00 AM
Just a thought maybe all us people that never got banned the first time around haven't been banned for a reason!
What M$ are doing is being very sneaking and have held back on banning a percentage of users waiting till the scene brings out their new firmware then BANG they start banning again! Everyone who never got banned the first time get's banned,Then we have a mad rush with everyone saying they have been banned using this new firmware,and were back to square one
Anyways its just a thought i maybe right i maybe wrong lets see in a week or so's time
Post by: mole1012000 on May 30, 2007, 04:06:00 AM
Mole
Post by: chango on May 30, 2007, 03:32:00 AM
My 360 shipped with a Hitachi 0078. The first thing I did was replace it with a ms25 before ever turning the box on. I've been spoofing it as a 0078 and already have the most recent Live updates.
Now with iXtreme I've been hearing how spoofing across different drives is dangerous. Am I completely screwed?
Which option is the least dangerous for my situation? :
A) Report as MS28
Report as MS25C) Report as 0078
Post by: pspmachine on May 30, 2007, 03:34:00 AM
Post by: ITALIANO on May 30, 2007, 03:36:00 AM
pooo po popo po po poooo
C4EVA RULEZZZ!
Wait for hitachi!
Post by: pspmachine on May 30, 2007, 04:13:00 AM
____________________________________________________________________ _ _
+-RELEASE.NOTES
Our friend c4eva has asked us to once again bring this
much-anticipated new firmware to everyone!
We and our fellow beta testers have put it through extensive
testing over the past few days and are happy to report no bugs
or problems, and most importantly, no bans! He has really
outdone himself this time!
Included in the package this time around is a new version (v0.6)
of SamTool by caster420 which will copy your drive key, and
optionally the version strings from your orig.bin for spoofing.
Usage is as follows:
samtool.exe orig.bin ixtreme.bin
Also, please note that included is a version ixtreme-inq.bin
which is strictly for Windows/Linux testing ONLY. Do *NOT* flash
the -inq version to your drive.
Thanks again c4eva, and here's to no bans!
________________________________________________________________________
++ SYNDiCATE - ++----------------'
-ascii.dv!
Hope this isn't against the rules, but I found it very interesting
Post by: ruciz on May 30, 2007, 04:13:00 AM
Microsoft designed the 360, and any hacks or firmwares released can be disassembled very quickly and ripped apart looking for bugs, holes, loops, problems or anything of the like they can use to their advantage - and by the looks of things, it will be another log and execute scenario as that seems to work for them.
Your new firmware may allow you to play your backups online for now - but granted unless C4E has access to the actual decrypted disassembled 360 kernel to know for sure what microsoft has done in the last updates, he can only assume what is going on in the background... and remember what assumptions do. Should be an interesting cat and mouse game to say the least.
C4E has lots of determination, and help.. I am not saying his work is bad - but no one is perfect, especially against huge corporations where hes writing 'blindfolded'.
Post by: undertoe on May 30, 2007, 04:15:00 AM
Post by: tarektaha on May 30, 2007, 04:22:00 AM
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams
P.S Flashed works like a sharm on a brand NEW consule will see what will happen
Post by: KLoNe on May 30, 2007, 04:35:00 AM
Post by: ZakMcRofl on May 30, 2007, 04:41:00 AM
REmember to back it up though in case your drive ever dies.
Post by: ezmoney on May 30, 2007, 05:01:00 AM
Post by: KLoNe on May 30, 2007, 05:01:00 AM
Post by: jo7a on May 30, 2007, 05:02:00 AM
i am on live right know. Way to go C4eva !
Post by: SteinOnkel on May 30, 2007, 05:08:00 AM
Post by: NorthernLightsX on May 30, 2007, 05:16:00 AM
But is there anyone who can say in what time span the hitachi fw can be found, even beta? I'd be happy to test it.
Post by: BoNg420 on May 30, 2007, 05:27:00 AM
QUOTE(SteinOnkel @ May 30 2007, 07:08 AM)
What do you suppose the chances are of non-stealth sector backups working with this fw in a future release? Then I would use it, but right now, my diminished urge for Live is being outweighed by lack of DL discs.
The whole point of this was to block non stealth discs...
So why in the world would C4e change it allow non stealth games to play?
Its for protection. So if you actually own these games you speak of with no stealth, then re rip them and reburn them... DLs arent that expensive.
Post by: little miss modder on May 30, 2007, 05:45:00 AM
Post by: Chaleman on May 30, 2007, 05:51:00 AM
How are all of you powering your Sammys to flash them? I'm asking this because of the supposed detection of powering your 360 without the SATA cable connected?
Thanks,
Chale
Post by: rjtd on May 30, 2007, 05:59:00 AM
Post by: n99wby on May 30, 2007, 06:01:00 AM
QUOTE(little miss modder @ May 30 2007, 12:45 PM)
but stealth isnt the issue in my opinion, i havent been banned and some of my backups are not stealth so how do u explain that? i wont be updating to this firmware simple because i survuved the banning and i reckon that this would get me cought. and it dosnt bother me if i get banned because my xbox is starting to die contsantly freezing so i'll play this update by ear
If your FW has been changed you will be banned its just a matter of time. Unless your using iExtreme which seems to be ok for now. We dont really know how MS is finding modded boxes yet but the best guesses are. Non Stealth games, booting the xbox without the DVD connected to SATA.
Post by: kero on May 30, 2007, 06:01:00 AM
QUOTE(Chaleman @ May 30 2007, 12:51 PM)
Guys,
How are all of you powering your Sammys to flash them? I'm asking this because of the supposed detection of powering your 360 without the SATA cable connected?
Thanks,
Chale
Power your xbox360 with the video cable removed. When you do this the xbox360 does not boot up and it does not cause the error. The problem is that the xbox360 will turn its self off automatically in approx 5 minutes. So make sure you do the flashing quick.
Post by: LesserEvil on May 30, 2007, 06:07:00 AM
In short, I got the Spring Update, freaked out for a bit, went to reflash my 5.2A-based drive, then ran into some difficulties (that PC had a bad power supply), so I didn't get 5.3 installed.
Disconnected from Live, waited for the new firmware when the wave of bannings hit.
In the meantime, ordered a knockoff Xbox Connectivity kit from diygadget on eBay, to supplement the Talismoon MiniSpy kit I had, so I would not power on the 360 without the DVD drive.
Early this morning, got my drive reflashed to the iXtreme firmware.
All of the firmware downloaded fine... I haven't logged onto any Live game sessions though.
On a side note, all of my backups, except for a couple that were too scratched up for direct backup, were done using a Kreon drive.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that I do not get banned. Today I'm upgrading the hard drive (to 120GB) and I'll try the Halo 3 beta.
Post by: Ravo5002 on May 30, 2007, 06:16:00 AM
Post by: LesserEvil on May 30, 2007, 06:18:00 AM
QUOTE(little miss modder @ May 30 2007, 07:45 AM)
but stealth isnt the issue in my opinion, i havent been banned and some of my backups are not stealth so how do u explain that? i wont be updating to this firmware simple because i survuved the banning and i reckon that this would get me cought. and it dosnt bother me if i get banned because my xbox is starting to die contsantly freezing so i'll play this update by ear
C4E has stated that they saw what Microsoft is currently doing using debug firmware. Microsoft **IS** checking those critical sectors, so playing with non-stealth backups **WILL** eventually result in a ban.
You might get by if the games that aren't stealthed are old games, and the updates haven't been written to check this (I'm of the opinion that the check may be taking place in the game updates, rather than the dashboard), but the latest dash update may have further increased the checks.
Updating won't get you banned. They currently aren't looking at that, and may never look at that... it's either too late, or it doesn't matter at this stage, so better to update now than later.
Some of the speculation is exactly that: speculation. C4E has discussed Microsoft's new query on the special sectors, and how it's changed, as well as the apparent checking of timing on challenge/response queries, so we know this is what is being used. We also know that many, many people have flashed after the update with no banning. We also know his testers did not get banned after reflashing. Updating is NOT the problem, especially if you have an MS28 with Firmguard (Microsoft cannot tell what you are running). The power on without DVD check was speculation (one I proposed when the bannings began, too), assuming the 360 stores error information, but when I speculated it, I also dismissed it as impractical, due to inevitable drive failures that would "Ban" your legit 360 under certain circumstances.
Post by: caster420 on May 30, 2007, 06:24:00 AM
QUOTE(rgtaa @ May 29 2007, 11:29 PM)
I have a ms25 so orig.bin ms25.
key from ix10.bin is version ms28.
Then gives WARNING
Drive version do not match!
Would you like to copy the orig.bin version to 1x10bin? (Y/N)
Not clear what I should do?
It wasn't in readme, and I don't know what to do?
key from ix10.bin is version ms28.
Then gives WARNING
Drive version do not match!
Would you like to copy the orig.bin version to 1x10bin? (Y/N)
Not clear what I should do?
It wasn't in readme, and I don't know what to do?
You type 'Y' to copy your version strings, or 'spoof' the firmware as some call it.
Here is a quick tutorial for using the make firmware command because it seems to be unclear for a lot of people. It is covered in Textbooks most current tutorial but here it is with the make fw command....
Caster.
Post by: shakeyplace on May 30, 2007, 06:25:00 AM
Post by: caster420 on May 30, 2007, 06:29:00 AM
QUOTE(shakeyplace @ May 30 2007, 08:25 AM)
About the debate MS25 vs MS28 spoofong firmware, I don't want to spoof basically because I won't be able to go back to the original firmware if I do. If you had a MS28 original firmware you could insert your drive key and just make it an original MS28 for the purpose of un-modifying your firmware in the future otherwise it can't be reversed!
Sure you can. As long as you have your key, you can get an original firmware (ms25 or ms28), inject your key, and flash it to your drive.
Caster.
Post by: gopala33 on May 30, 2007, 06:30:00 AM
TS-H943 Xbox 360
i tested xtreme firmware 5.2a single layar works
i want new Xtreme firmware 1.0
can play XBOX 1 Backup Single layar 4.7GB or dual layar 8.5GB ???
Post by: caster420 on May 30, 2007, 06:36:00 AM
QUOTE(gopala33 @ May 30 2007, 08:30 AM)
can play XBOX 1 Backup Single layar 4.7GB or dual layar 8.5GB ???
No. Single layer support does not exist in this firmware.
Caster.
Post by: keine on May 30, 2007, 07:12:00 AM
How should I flash?
Direct with MS28 with simple key paste?
Spoof to MS25 with included tool?
Spoof directly to 0046DH from MS28 key paste with Firmware toolbox?
Spoof to MS25(iExtrem tool) and then to 0046DH with Firmware toolbox?
Currently I flashed with the straight ms28 key paste.
Is it enough to spoof to ms25, or do I need to spoof to ms25 through iExtrem and then to 0046DH? Does spoofing to 0046DH even matter now that I'm using a MS25 in a 0046DH mobo?
What is safest? What is best? I'm confused now.
I've never had to spoof before, and I've never had any E66 errors. Suggestions.
Ideas?
This post has been edited by keine: May 30 2007, 02:14 PM
Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 07:13:00 AM
QUOTE
MANY POSTS REMOVED
Many posts removed, sanction served for all
BEFORE POSTING YOU MUST FIRST READ THE POSTING RULES ANS THE PINNED[/url]
You must also SEARCH and read the previous posts such that you do not ask the same question again
-no Off topic discussion: this is limited to discussion in IXtreme firmwareand not a debate thread
-discussing Backups on Live
-no use of illegal copies
-no retail fraud discussion
-no antagonistic posts (telling others they are retard, dumb...)
-NO THEORIES ON BAN this is the technical section (read the pinned The Spring 2007 Ban Thread as there is a place for that I Been Banned? SPRING 2007, Theories, News).
-all other rules still applies
This post has been edited by sosotiit: May 30 2007, 02:19 PM
Post by: willy134uk on May 30, 2007, 07:20:00 AM
Post by: stamford999 on May 30, 2007, 07:24:00 AM
Post by: grabloid on May 30, 2007, 07:35:00 AM
that is all I have used up to now with my backups and I need to know if they will work with this new firmware before I upgrade.
thanks.
Post by: n99wby on May 30, 2007, 07:35:00 AM
Im assuming that by next month after MS has created a new list we could all quite easily be banned again. As were all assuming that the fixes in this FW was all that MS was doing to find modded xbox's..
Or have we found exactly what MS were doing.
Post by: LesserEvil on May 30, 2007, 07:40:00 AM
QUOTE(n99wby @ May 30 2007, 09:35 AM) 
With all of the hype around this can someone please put me right...
Im assuming that by next month after MS has created a new list we could all quite easily be banned again. As were all assuming that the fixes in this FW was all that MS was doing to find modded xbox's..
Or have we found exactly what MS were doing.
We actually do know what they did. They queried the special sectors in an unusual way. C4E used special firmware that enabled him to see what Microsoft was doing. He then posited several other potential "weak points" that they may attack in the future.
Several of those points, including the bothersome "Power on without DVD" check aren't practical, as they will net legit users, so they'll probably be too risky for Microsoft to use. More likely they'll use a combination of checks down the road,
Post by: kotmfu on May 30, 2007, 07:43:00 AM
QUOTE(LesserEvil @ May 30 2007, 11:40 PM)
We actually do know what they did. They queried the special sectors in an unusual way. C4E used special firmware that enabled him to see what Microsoft was doing. He then posited several other potential "weak points" that they may attack in the future.
Several of those points, including the bothersome "Power on without DVD" check aren't practical, as they will net legit users, so they'll probably be too risky for Microsoft to use. More likely they'll use a combination of checks down the road,
so does this mean they wont be banning on the whole power without dvd check?
because i have a xbox i havent used on live, havent installed the spring update, but have modded with 5.3
and since my other box is banned iwas gonna swap it to ixtreme 1.0 and live it.
will this work?
also do u need enable 0800 for 5.3?
thanks all
Post by: caster420 on May 30, 2007, 07:45:00 AM
QUOTE(keine @ May 30 2007, 09:12 AM)
I have a MS25, in a Hitachi 0046DH Case.
How should I flash?
Direct with MS28 with simple key paste?
Spoof to MS25 with included tool?
Spoof directly to 0046DH from MS28 key paste with Firmware toolbox?
Spoof to MS25(iExtrem tool) and then to 0046DH with Firmware toolbox?
Currently I flashed with the straight ms28 key paste.
Is it enough to spoof to ms25, or do I need to spoof to ms25 through iExtrem and then to 0046DH? Does spoofing to 0046DH even matter now that I'm using a MS25 in a 0046DH mobo?
What is safest? What is best? I'm confused now.
I've never had to spoof before, and I've never had any E66 errors. Suggestions.
Ideas?
How should I flash?
Direct with MS28 with simple key paste?
Spoof to MS25 with included tool?
Spoof directly to 0046DH from MS28 key paste with Firmware toolbox?
Spoof to MS25(iExtrem tool) and then to 0046DH with Firmware toolbox?
Currently I flashed with the straight ms28 key paste.
Is it enough to spoof to ms25, or do I need to spoof to ms25 through iExtrem and then to 0046DH? Does spoofing to 0046DH even matter now that I'm using a MS25 in a 0046DH mobo?
What is safest? What is best? I'm confused now.
I've never had to spoof before, and I've never had any E66 errors. Suggestions.
Ideas?
You can:
A ) use your orig.bin from your hitachi drive (if you have it) and follow the short tutorial above.
B ) used 360 Firmware toolbox to inject your key into the iXtreme firmware and spoof to v46.
You will need to have it report as a hitachi v46 or you will get E66. You cannot use the firmware currently on your drive with samtool, as it will think it is v46 firmware and will error out (different key placement between firmwares).
Caster.
Post by: antz1970 on May 30, 2007, 07:50:00 AM
QUOTE(caster420 @ May 30 2007, 02:45 PM)
You can:
A) use your orig.bin from your hitachi drive (if you have it) and follow the short tutorial above.
used 360 Firmware toolbox to inject your key into the iXtreme firmware and spoof to v46.You will need to have it report as a hitachi v46 or you will get E66. You cannot use the firmware currently on your drive with samtool, as it will think it is v46 firmware and will error out (different key placement between firmwares).
Caster.
i thought spoofing to another version was deemed "risky" , is this not the case anymore?
Post by: Mortus on May 30, 2007, 07:52:00 AM
F.Y.I i got a copy connectivity kit from gottohav.co.uk for less than £10 inc del.
Post by: rabbitstroker on May 30, 2007, 07:54:00 AM
QUOTE
A new firmware replacement for the TS-H943 xbox360 drive
Features
(v1.0) Defeats all current and some future Xbox Live detection attempts
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 360 backups
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
(v1.0) Boots all Xbox 360 originals
(v1.0) Boots all Xbox 1 originals on Xbox 360
Use on Xbox Live at own risk!!
Features
(v1.0) Defeats all current and some future Xbox Live detection attempts
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 360 backups
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
(v1.0) Boots all Xbox 360 originals
(v1.0) Boots all Xbox 1 originals on Xbox 360
Use on Xbox Live at own risk!!
Thanks guys for your great work, I'm gonna stick with 5.3 though as i cant be bothered to take my 360 apart and by the looks of it the only new options in the FW is to stop none stealth images working, my backups are all stealth anyway so i'm cool.
I do like the options you have added to the the FW over the past year though, it's just so great that you can get so much out of a FW.
Post by: caster420 on May 30, 2007, 08:09:00 AM
QUOTE(antz1970 @ May 30 2007, 09:50 AM)
i thought spoofing to another version was deemed "risky" , is this not the case anymore?
Well, if you are replacing a drive, using a samsung in place of a hitachi for example, you will need to make it report as a Hitachi drive, or it will give you E66. People tested spoofed versions during the beta testing, no issues were found. Some people who were using spoofed firmwares during the whole ban process are still up and functioning. So, deemed "risky", idk, "necessity" in certain cases, yes.
The risk is, imo, could be that if they were to start checking fw in other means (hitachi firmware vs. samsung firmware), maybe they could detect a drive reporting as a hitachi but running samsung firmware.
That being said, if you are already in this situation, you have no choice but to spoof your firmware. If you have a hitachi and are thinking about buying a samsung replacement, you must always accept the fact that you are using modified firmware and there is always risk associated with it.
Caster.
Post by: antz1970 on May 30, 2007, 08:23:00 AM
QUOTE(caster420 @ May 30 2007, 03:09 PM)
Well, if you are replacing a drive, using a samsung in place of a hitachi for example, you will need to make it report as a Hitachi drive, or it will give you E66. People tested spoofed versions during the beta testing, no issues were found. Some people who were using spoofed firmwares during the whole ban process are still up and functioning. So, deemed "risky", idk, "necessity" in certain cases, yes.
Caster.
nice 1 , thanx , i hope you know i wasnt questioning your judgement m8 , it was just that im sure that either garyopa or c4e said in #fw the other day when questioned about spoofing , that he replied it was "risky" but if you are saying that spoofed drives were tested in the beta without issues , then thats good for me:D
p.s say i had a ms25 that i wanted to spoof for a hitachi 47 , i make up orig.bin with my hitachi key , then chuck it into the ixtreme package , (when creating firmware am i better to make it ms28 or ms25) , then im assuming i put it into firmware toolbox and spoof as a hitach 47? is that correct?
Post by: emrhno on May 30, 2007, 08:30:00 AM
Is there a way to check on a computer wether my games are stealth or non?? I mean if it is safe to play the stealth ones on-line even with the older FW..?
Post by: ZakMcRofl on May 30, 2007, 08:30:00 AM
- Hitachi reporting as Samsung can be detected (try uploading code to execute, try any Samsung-specific command or check for read characteristics)
- Samsung reporting as Hitchi can be detected (try uploading code to execute, try any Hitachi-specific command or check for read characteristics)
- MS28 reporting as MS25 can be detected (try reading it out)
MS-25 reporting as MS-28 should be fine since upgrades apparently are allowed.
Hitachi reporting as later Hitachi should be fine if upgrades are allows (dunno).
Also on my list are DMI-checks (bad stealth) and a further method that I'd rather now discuss here.
Post by: Andy Hewitt on May 30, 2007, 08:30:00 AM
QUOTE(kero @ May 30 2007, 01:01 PM)
Power your xbox360 with the video cable removed. When you do this the xbox360 does not boot up and it does not cause the error. The problem is that the xbox360 will turn its self off automatically in approx 5 minutes. So make sure you do the flashing quick.
For Gods sake ........
Do you know how irresponsible advice like that is?
.... what happens when you power off midflash with a MS28 based firmware?
Do you want to know how many VCC hacks I've had to do for people to get their systems back up and running ?!?!?
Lets just say I stopped counting when it reached the 400+ mark. !
Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 08:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Andy Hewitt @ May 30 2007, 10:30 AM)
For Gods sake ........
Do you know how irresponsible advice like that is?
.... what happens when you power off midflash with a MS28 based firmware?
Do you want to know how many VCC hacks I've had to do for people to get their systems back up and running ?!?!?
Lets just say I stopped counting when it reached the 400+ mark. !
no one is forced to do it but is is an option,
it 5 minutes which is enough if you know what you are doing,
other option is to buy a connectivity kit or use an already banned( or 3rlod) console)
agreed there is a risk, people must measure if they can handle it. just like you decided to do vcc trick, which is not for everyone!!!
-soso
Post by: painkiller45 on May 30, 2007, 08:51:00 AM
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Post by: umpa on May 30, 2007, 09:02:00 AM
After the bans this xbox cant connect to live either for 'Technical problems' and to call microsoft.
any ideas
Post by: uk_dan2k on May 30, 2007, 08:36:00 AM
Because how many successfull bootups would it take to fill out the log files, so its safe to reconnect back on live.
i know u might be flagged still and awaiting a ban when the tech people get around to it.
just a thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
This post has been edited by uk_dan2k: May 30 2007, 03:36 PM
Post by: Trune on May 30, 2007, 08:37:00 AM
Post by: HJR on May 30, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
i have an ms28 drive and my flash history is:
xtreme 3.2
xtreme 4.1d
xtreme 5.2b
i didn't do the spring update....
never connected to live until fix has been published
ixtreme 1.0
connected to xbox live... spring update
not banned.
Post by: *razor on May 30, 2007, 08:46:00 AM
not point in asking when read the thread on I extreme, they say it is WIP, and as alwasy said it will come when ready!!!
really a new thread for this was not needed
Hi! what does WIP mean?????
Post by: wellmodded on May 30, 2007, 08:48:00 AM
Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 09:26:00 AM
QUOTE(wellmodded @ May 30 2007, 11:24 AM)
just wondering if i don't plan on going on live should i gt this fw wht is the advnatage of this fw if i am not going on xboxlive
the Hitachi is Work in Progress
-soso
Post by: MaZo on May 30, 2007, 08:50:00 AM
Post by: KiLL CraZy on May 30, 2007, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE(*razor @ May 30 2007, 11:22 AM)
Oh plse we said that so often,
not point in asking when read the thread on I extreme, they say it is WIP, and as alwasy said it will come when ready!!!
really a new thread for this was not needed
Hi! what does WIP mean?????
I to would like to know what WIP is too plz.
And can someone plz explain to me wtf does spoofing mean? What is it for? How is it done? And what does it do?
Thanks
Post by: nectar12 on May 30, 2007, 08:57:00 AM
Post by: *razor on May 30, 2007, 09:44:00 AM
QUOTE(nectar12 @ May 30 2007, 05:33 PM)
WIP - Work In Progress.
Thank you! Damn waiting for Hitachi FW (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Post by: jippyuk on May 30, 2007, 09:44:00 AM
AFAIK you can still FW flash your old XBOX (assuming you haven't been banned yet) the point being though that if you've been on live, there is a VERY high chance that MS have records that you've been using a FW hack, so even with the new FW, its still likely that they'll ban the console (at some point).
Thats what I understand anyway, needless to say, i'll still upgrade my old xbox (dont know if its been banned yet) and then check to see if I get away with it, at least for a few weeks if nothing else.
Post by: chizzy201 on May 30, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
thanx and good work c4e
Post by: Chief007 on May 30, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
Got the ixtreme firmware..
Copied my orig.bin into the right folder.
Hit "make ixtreme firmware.cmd"
BUT...I get "No valid key found in orig.bin"
Anyone seen this?
I am positive that my orig.bin is the one that I've
been using for my other flashes..
Anyone?
Post by: anteperra on May 30, 2007, 10:27:00 AM
QUOTE(Shroomer @ May 30 2007, 04:56 AM)
If thats what you long for...you need a fug'n life.
DC was fun, but its done man...was done like 8 years ago.
Thanks C4E...
He's not talking about the DC in particular, but the homebrew scene around it in general. For a time, DC really was the king of console homebrew... wouldn't it be great to see ports of the classic games, emulators, media players and other useful tools running on 360 like stuff did in the DC days? If you say no I'm gonna slap you around with a trout (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) After all, making homebrew possible IS the main driving force for most (if perhaps not all) 360 hackers out there...
Post by: DaShiZNiT on May 30, 2007, 09:53:00 AM
thx c4eva im sure you know how much youre appreciated
Post by: jfrancb on May 30, 2007, 10:31:00 AM
I will to update my ms28 tonight test it on live so far not ban, recently change my 360 might be why. Only played one backup since I change my 360 and was still connected to live up until yesterday.
Post by: A-Wax on May 30, 2007, 10:35:00 AM
I have a friend who I also flashed his 360 right out of the box and his has been working fine since January. His 360 is running firmware 5.2A (or whichever was current at that time) and he's also been playing online regularly.
Maybe MS detects changes in systems which were logged into LIVE at factory conditions beforehand
Post by: monkeyflungpoo on May 30, 2007, 10:36:00 AM
Post by: Matt_Tracy on May 30, 2007, 10:57:00 AM
So, let's say I haven't logged on for over two weeks, my network cable has been unplugged. Will this work for me, or is it possible that I've already been banned? Should I log on beforehand, to see if I'm banned, or update to this and then log in? I'm sure there are a lot of people that were in this situation, so I'm mainly asking what you guys did.
Post by: mrtvgame on May 30, 2007, 11:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Matt_Tracy @ May 30 2007, 12:57 PM)
I don't really feel like reading through 12 pages. >_<
So, let's say I haven't logged on for over two weeks, my network cable has been unplugged. Will this work for me, or is it possible that I've already been banned? Should I log on beforehand, to see if I'm banned, or update to this and then log in? I'm sure there are a lot of people that were in this situation, so I'm mainly asking what you guys did.
Hmmm... I don't like reading many pages either but I do and the answers are clearly there. Go read and people stop clogging these forums with dumb ass questions that are answered over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over . . . . . . . . . . . . . . For the love of god, you are a senior member and should know better!
This a technical forum not "will I be banned, or I think this is how M$ is banning, or my spoofing is being spoofed, or when is Hitachi coming or or How do I turn on a Xbox 360."
and to politely answer the same damn question again...
Plug your 360 into Live and find out already. If your banned, tough love. If not, enjoy the new firmware or buy another console.
Capiche?
This post has been edited by mrtvgame: May 30 2007, 06:05 PM
Post by: Hinotori on May 30, 2007, 11:03:00 AM
QUOTE(mole1012000 @ May 30 2007, 11:06 AM)
Surely the whole m28 spoofing debate is a easy one. The difference between the original 25 and 28. Was only firmware pure and simple. It put the flashing guards in place and gave c4eva the inspiration for the enable 0800 setup. The hardware was the same. So how can m$ know that a 28 was once the 25 if the hardware is the same. If before the only difference on original fw`s and drives was fw.
Mole
That is an easy one... If the console was registered previously with a MS25 firmware and them suddenly it appears as MS28, was it repaired by us? Yes, ok, safe to go... No? Oh well, EULA says that the console can only be touched by us to connect to XBOX Live...
It is only a matter of they keeping track of this, do they? I dunno... Can they start doing this at some point? Maybe...
Post by: Chief007 on May 30, 2007, 11:07:00 AM
Copying Key.....
***No valid key found in orig.bin!***
Here is a brief explination of the valid key not found error....
Key Check locates the key by comparing the all bytes of the key against
the other bytes in the 16 byte key. If there are more than 3 identical bytes in the 16 byte key, it moves to the next logical key location in key block. So, if all of the 32 key locations have more than 3 identical bytes, then it will respond with valid key structure not found. It is very uncommon for keys to have repeating bytes and the most I have found to date is 3. Double check orig.bin BEFORE flashing.
Key block not copied - ABORTING!!!
I am 100% sure that I use the right orig.bin.
Does this mean I am VERY, VERY, VERY unlucky...???
Do I have to manually (hex-edit) make my ixtreme firmware, or is there any
other solution??
Anyone else experienced this??
Post by: Matt_Tracy on May 30, 2007, 11:10:00 AM
QUOTE(mrtvgame @ May 30 2007, 12:00 PM)
Hmmm... I don't like reading many pages either but I do and the answers are clearly there. Go read and people stop clogging these forums with dumb ass questions that are answered over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over . . . . . . . . . . . . . . For the love of god, you are a senior member and should know better!
This a technical forum not "will I be banned, or I think this is how M$ is banning, or my spoofing is being spoofed, or when is Hitachi coming or or How do I turn on a Xbox 360."
and to politely answer the same damn question again...
Plug your 360 into Live and find out already. If your banned, tough love. If not, enjoy the new firmware or buy another console.
Capiche?
Well pardon me all to hell....
I'm aware that this is a technical forum, and IMO my question was related to the technicalities of how the hack works. I was asking whether or not it would work if I had not logged in. I apologize for my laziness, but there's no need to get pissy.
This post has been edited by Matt_Tracy: May 30 2007, 06:15 PM
Post by: antz1970 on May 30, 2007, 11:13:00 AM
QUOTE(Chief007 @ May 30 2007, 06:07 PM)
When I try to make my firmware I get:
Copying Key.....
***No valid key found in orig.bin!***
Here is a brief explination of the valid key not found error....
Key Check locates the key by comparing the all bytes of the key against
the other bytes in the 16 byte key. If there are more than 3 identical bytes in the 16 byte key, it moves to the next logical key location in key block. So, if all of the 32 key locations have more than 3 identical bytes, then it will respond with valid key structure not found. It is very uncommon for keys to have repeating bytes and the most I have found to date is 3. Double check orig.bin BEFORE flashing.
Key block not copied - ABORTING!!!
I am 100% sure that I use the right orig.bin.
Does this mean I am VERY, VERY, VERY unlucky...???
Do I have to manually (hex-edit) make my ixtreme firmware, or is there any
other solution??
Anyone else experienced this??
is it deffo an orig.bin you are using(e.g it aint an already hacked/spoofed firmware) , all i can suggest is opening your firmware in fw toolbox , and see if it shows your key , if it does , copy it , then open xtrem10a.bin and paste your key into it , then spoof to what you need it to be , you should then be good to go
Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 11:13:00 AM
QUOTE
many, many post removed
and some sanction served
BEFORE POSTING YOU MUST FIRST READ THE POSTING RULES ANS THE PINNED,
You must also SEARCH and read the previous posts such that you do not ask the same question again
-no Off topic discussion: this is limited to discussion in IXtreme firmwareand not a debate thread
-discussing Backups on Live
-no use of illegal copies
-no retail fraud discussion
-no antagonistic posts (telling others they are retard, dumb...)
-NO THEORIES ON BAN this is the technical section (read the pinned The Spring 2007 Ban Thread as there is a place for that I Been Banned? SPRING 2007, Theories, News).
-all other rules still applies
So in short, if it does have to do mainly with the firmware ixtreme 1.0 and how to flash it , do not post in this thread. If it is about general views on ban, ... again, post in x360 general, and do not ask will I be ban if (read the rules).
Do not waste you time writing it, we will remove it.
-soso
This post has been edited by sosotiit: May 30 2007, 06:16 PM
Post by: iwillrace on May 30, 2007, 11:31:00 AM
Thanks again for all the hard work you guys rock! 80)
Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 11:34:00 AM
-soso
Post by: caster420 on May 30, 2007, 11:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Chief007 @ May 30 2007, 01:07 PM)
When I try to make my firmware I get:
Copying Key.....
***No valid key found in orig.bin!***
Here is a brief explination of the valid key not found error....
Key Check locates the key by comparing the all bytes of the key against
the other bytes in the 16 byte key. If there are more than 3 identical bytes in the 16 byte key, it moves to the next logical key location in key block. So, if all of the 32 key locations have more than 3 identical bytes, then it will respond with valid key structure not found. It is very uncommon for keys to have repeating bytes and the most I have found to date is 3. Double check orig.bin BEFORE flashing.
Key block not copied - ABORTING!!!
I am 100% sure that I use the right orig.bin.
Does this mean I am VERY, VERY, VERY unlucky...???
Do I have to manually (hex-edit) make my ixtreme firmware, or is there any
other solution??
Anyone else experienced this??
Copying Key.....
***No valid key found in orig.bin!***
Here is a brief explination of the valid key not found error....
Key Check locates the key by comparing the all bytes of the key against
the other bytes in the 16 byte key. If there are more than 3 identical bytes in the 16 byte key, it moves to the next logical key location in key block. So, if all of the 32 key locations have more than 3 identical bytes, then it will respond with valid key structure not found. It is very uncommon for keys to have repeating bytes and the most I have found to date is 3. Double check orig.bin BEFORE flashing.
Key block not copied - ABORTING!!!
I am 100% sure that I use the right orig.bin.
Does this mean I am VERY, VERY, VERY unlucky...???
Do I have to manually (hex-edit) make my ixtreme firmware, or is there any
other solution??
Anyone else experienced this??
That check may have failed because samtool checks the number of repeating bytes in your key. It checks for repeating values and is how it determines a valid vs non-valid key. Obviously there are the odd keys, like yours potentially, that will not work with this checking procedure.
Open your orig.bin with 360 Firmware Toolbox, see if it detects the version strings and shows a valid looking key. If so, use that to inject you key into the iXtreme 1.0 firmware and spoof if needed.
I will be revising this key check procedure for the next release, with it checking the actual structure of the key area and not just the key itself. This will hopefully allow for any valid keys that currently fail to be properly found and copied.
Caster.
Post by: VxxRoBxxV on May 30, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Valver @ May 30 2007, 10:14 AM)
The situation is further complicated for users who have an MS25 drive and have flashed previously.
If they used an MS28 based hacked firmware and spoofed it as MS25 then they could use either iXtreme option and should be fine. However an MS25 to MS28 version change could be picked up. So maybe continuing to spoof as MS25 is the better bet for this example. This is what I think needs some further clarification.
The other situation is if the MS25 drive used a previous flash with an MS28 based hacked firmware and they left it reporting as MS28 (ie they did the MS25 to MS28 version upgrade a while back) they then CANT spoof back to MS25 surely? Otherwise the dash will notice a DOWNGRADE in version number and E66 on them? (or worse, insta-ban)
So you cant just say "use Yes" or "use No". It depends on what they did previsouly, and what version their drive is currently telling the dash it is...
Anyway - great work C4E. You get my thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)
I have read through all 12 pages of posts and am still a little confused. This is the best post i found that has to do with my question.
I have an MS25 drive that I flashed to i think the first xtreme ms28 based firmware that required the 0800 disc (this was after a previous flash which im assuming was ms25 based). I haven't heard about spoofing until recently so I'm assuming my drive is now considered an MS28. So what I take from the above quote is that upgrading is allowed from ms25 to ms28 so I should keep it reading as an MS28 drive and that changing it to MS25 would cause an E66 downgrade error. Am I correct on this? I am also aware that theres a possibility that they could have already detected an unauthorized upgrade to ms28 and could ban me at any point so thats not any issue. I haven't had my 360 connected to the internet in a long time, way before the spring update so I have no idea if I'm banned or not already.
I know a million questions like this have been asked but some answers are conflicting/confusing and just would like some clarification.
Thanks for the help and c4e you are the man!
Post by: souless82 on May 30, 2007, 11:52:00 AM
Most of us waited for the Xtreme53 to come out and only after flashing the drives did the spring update.
Am I right?
If so than I need to get me an external sata power source if no than my previous fw updates are already logged and there is no use trying to power on the box with external power source.
another question should I format my HDD and create a new live account before logging on to XBL?
Thanks.
Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 12:08:00 PM
QUOTE(souless82 @ May 30 2007, 01:52 PM)
Can someone clear something out for me , the whole thing with logging the boots with the sata cable unplugged did MS apply that feature in the spring update? or before that? because if thats true than most of the people didnt power on there box with the sata cable unplugged after the update.
Most of us waited for the Xtreme53 to come out and only after flashing the drives did the spring update.
Am I right?
If so than I need to get me an external sata power source if no than my previous fw updates are already logged and there is no use trying to power on the box with external power source.
another question should I format my HDD and create a new live account before logging on to XBL?
Thanks.
no one knows exactly if it is even done by MS!! No way to know when it would have started either (if done obviously)
-------------------------
@ VxxRoBxxV
my recommendations if you have a ms25 is to continue what you had before. If it was reported as a ms25 then do that, if it was left as a ms28 then keep it. BUt again just IMHO, feel that changing could only trigger attention
-soso
This post has been edited by sosotiit: May 30 2007, 07:11 PM
Post by: keine on May 30, 2007, 12:16:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ May 30 2007, 02:45 PM)
You can:
A ) use your orig.bin from your hitachi drive (if you have it) and follow the short tutorial above.
B ) used 360 Firmware toolbox to inject your key into the iXtreme firmware and spoof to v46.
You will need to have it report as a hitachi v46 or you will get E66. You cannot use the firmware currently on your drive with samtool, as it will think it is v46 firmware and will error out (different key placement between firmwares).
Caster.
I've never gotten an E66 error before however. Is it a 100% thing, or a every so often occurring incident? I have never spoofed to my original Hitachi version. I've always just been MS25 until yesterday, when I flashed to MS28 iExtrem.
Would I be safer if I waited for the Hitachi release, and put back in my Hitachi so that I wouldn't need to spoof? Just opinions since noone really knows.
Any posts discussing spoof vs. no-spoof.
I booted my MS25 flashed as a MS28 in a 0046Mobo......and I didn't get a E66 error? I don't understand whats going on.
sosotiit, you recommend just sticking with MS25.....Ok I'll prolly just do that for the time being.
This post has been edited by keine: May 30 2007, 07:22 PM
Post by: Junior04 on May 30, 2007, 12:25:00 PM
Thanx in advance and C4E you guys and team just rock.
Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: ZakMcRofl on May 30, 2007, 12:56:00 PM
QUOTE(Andy Hewitt @ May 30 2007, 04:30 PM)
For Gods sake ........
Do you know how irresponsible advice like that is?
.... what happens when you power off midflash with a MS28 based firmware?
Do you want to know how many VCC hacks I've had to do for people to get their systems back up and running ?!?!?
Lets just say I stopped counting when it reached the 400+ mark. !
When you power off midflash (like I just accidently did) you only have to find a second Samsung drive.
Use good drive to launch mtkflash but don't select drive yet. Turn off good drive.
Connect bad drive, select drive, wait 10 seconds, power bad drive.
No horribly complicated but yes, you need a second drive. Lucklily I had two others for flashing...
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 30, 2007, 12:57:00 PM
Post by: bhind69 on May 30, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
QUOTE(TIME2PLAYDAGAME @ May 30 2007, 07:57 PM)
JeeZ...Im glad im waiting on the Hitachi. There's too much BS to deal with Sammy drives. Seems like the MS28 has been a curve ball since its release. Hitachi's you just use Slax for Mode B, get into windows & either use Toolbox or cmd. I did do the first Xtreme's on Sammy's, then it got a lil easier with SAMREAD...but it just seems to me that MS28's although probably the best when it comes to fw's, are just annoying to get the job done. lol
funny. i think the exact opposite. i think sammy's are easier.
Post by: Looouky on May 30, 2007, 01:06:00 PM
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 30, 2007, 01:07:00 PM
QUOTE(bhind69 @ May 30 2007, 02:02 PM)
funny. i think the exact opposite. i think sammy's are easier.
Post by: rgtaa on May 30, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
Some of us that have MS25 drives are confused for more than one reason, but it comes down to this question:
With the current state of banning on LIVE is it better for some of us to Spoof it to MS28 from now on, since person who creates this stuff is using MS28 firmware to make the firmware, is this the most safest way to go.
I'm not talking about about the error messages others were getting in past when they spoofed to ms28 and tried to go back to MS25 orig.bin.
Can tests be done by MS that would be able to tell it's a ms25 or ms28?
Other option would be for the TEAM to use a MS25 drive and create firmware especially for that drive, so it would eliminate any tests that couldn't be run on ms25 drive.
Is this the TIME for those of us with ms25 to spoof to ms28 and keep it at ms28 or for the TEAM to create a firmware based on the MS25 drive for a MS25 drive?
That is the question.
And only the Pro's know the answer and MS.
Post by: keine on May 30, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
I DID NOT spoof to my original Hitachi model which originally came with my box.
I disconnected my drive post Spring and didn't go on till today. I updated to Spring today.
Anyways, I'm not banned. I just wonder how long that will last. I plan on leaving my console unplugged now and checking every so often (months).
I would really like a solution similar to the original xbox, where you could use your backups and be safe with your originals online. ATM, this is impossible on the 360 as we have no fricking idea how they banned. It's possible they don't continuously ban. Maybe in a month, I will be banned for my 15 seconds online with an original I did to test today. I won't know until I get back on in a month. That would be ironic. I go to check if I'm banned to find out I'm not, only to be banned for checking. That brings a smile to my face.
I'm still totally unsure about the spoofing ordeal. I am not affected by the E66 and have never spoofed my drive to the original mobo drive Hitachi. Until the iXtreme, I've always been ms25, until I flashed iXtreme MS28. I have NO idea what kind of repercussion that will have. (Probably not good// Eternal E66 from my one mishap, when flashing ms25 turns out to be the right way I should have done it) In my own little paranoid theory, spoofing could very well be one of the ways they ban. I mean why not? Anybody who's firmware doesn't match the original shipped, obviously something up. Lets ban them for swapping out drives.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW! What happens when all our drives start dying. No dvd drive lasts forever (I can guarantee you that). Are we expected to all buy new 360s or be banned. That kinda makes me wonder if M$ could actually implement the spoofing ban.
I think I'll just hang tight on my MS25- Flashed MS28 non spoofed to Hitachi original model. I'll check again in a month. I'm debating whether to flash to spoofed MS25, keep flashed MS28, flash spoofed ms28 to ms25 and then double spoof spoof to my original hitachi, or maybe I should triple double spoof. This is madness. If they ban on spoofs, I'm done.
Thoughts?
Why am I doing anything? The safest way out of this is most definately the sit tight and wait method.
QUOTE
Is this the TIME for those of us with ms25 to spoof to ms28 and keep it at ms28 or for the TEAM to create a firmware based on the MS25 drive for a MS25 drive?
That is the question.
That is the question.
That is indeed the question. However M$ could be banning via spoof checks. That would be incredibly dumb, but nevertheless I don't put it past M$ this generation.
This post has been edited by keine: May 30 2007, 08:28 PM
Post by: iwillrace on May 30, 2007, 01:18:00 PM
Post by: droideka on May 30, 2007, 01:28:00 PM
how about creating a new thread were people say what happened when upgrading to ixtreme?
like:
flashed before?yes/no
prior fw: xtreme 5.3a or original
spoofed? yes /no what drive what spoof
banned: yes/no
or something like that. someone with more experience at this could start it.
Post by: Chief007 on May 30, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
QUOTE(antz1970 @ May 30 2007, 07:13 PM)
is it deffo an orig.bin you are using(e.g it aint an already hacked/spoofed firmware) , all i can suggest is opening your firmware in fw toolbox , and see if it shows your key , if it does , copy it , then open xtrem10a.bin and paste your key into it , then spoof to what you need it to be , you should then be good to go
Yes, it is absolutely certain that this is my orig.bin that I dumped from my 360 before flashing
it for the first time. Since then I have flashed with extreme 3.3 - extreme 4.2 & extreme 5.2 using
this exact orig.bin...
Isn't this strange?....Could it be that my key is one in a million...?
Post by: dani92 on May 30, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
i have tried it but when i put on the c.kit v2 and it start reading the firmware, but it doesnt extract well if i dont switch on drive by eject.
Sorry my bad english.
Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
QUOTE(feflicker @ May 30 2007, 02:53 AM)
Some Notes:
- MS28 drive.
- After I did the spring update I removed my network cable, haven't connected to Live since. Coincidentally, a few days later after I upgraded the bannings started.
- I've only played backups offline in the meantime, that pass the DVD Mulleter stealth tests.
- I haven't played a game on Live since COD3 came out, MONTHS ago. (Actual Live match).
- I do, however, have my dash set to auto-connect to Live. So it is ALWAYS connected to Live in the background.
- I upgraded to iXtreme 1.0 tonight, and tried to connect to Live, NADA. Z codes abound, I was banned.
I guess this means that you don't have to play the games on Live, just be connected to Live in the background while playing a game to get banned
There were some early backups I was using that didn't have all of the "stealth" info on the disc, so I'm guesing those were the culprits...
I guess its time to get ANOTHER 360 (which will be my 4th console because 2 others died on me, and now this one is banned).
In other news, I still have my original Xbox 1 (unbanned)... Back on topic: Thanks C4EVA for your hard work on this, hopefully my soon to be purchased core console will be on Live for another year with your iXtreme release
Yes, what you have described will get you banned. We believe that the dmi/pfi checks were put in place not in the spring update, but in the previous fall update, and information has been collected since. If your xbox is connected to live (signed in) and you are playing a game, even though not 'matchmaking' the xbox will still do dmi/pfi inquiries, and send the information to the live servers. It is definitly the 'non-stealth' backups you played while connected to live that got you banned.
Post by: demheels on May 30, 2007, 01:36:00 PM
What's the definitive answer regarding these scenarios ...
I have a MS25 that I want to report as a MS25, so I choose Yes/No ?
I have a MS25 that I want to report as a MS28, so I choose Yes/No?
Can someone answer this for not only myself but for others with this same question.
Thanks.
Post by: klewan on May 30, 2007, 01:37:00 PM
as i say always the one who can read has an advantage
Post by: caster420 on May 30, 2007, 01:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Looouky @ May 30 2007, 03:06 PM)
Spoofing is only required for xbox 360 where the dvd drive version and mobo are married. If you have an xbox 360 mf date prior May 2006 then it is not neccessary to spoof. I would just keep your drive reporting back the same version that it has for the past several months. In my case Error 66 would never occur since mine is not married, so I could get it to say it is an MS25 or MS28 or even Hitachi for that matter my mobo does not care. But since for the past several months my MS25 has said it is an MS28 then I'll keep it the same way. So when that error message pops up for me I will type "N".
I highly doubt it has anything to do with the console manufacture date. It is a kernel check and depending on when you upgraded your kernel vs your drive is how E66 results. You dont have a magic motherboard that will let you report any drive version you want.
You were correct on your assumption though. Use whatever version is currently working on your system and you wont have any issues. The 'Y' or 'N' response is user dependent, use a little common sense.
Caster.
Post by: iwanttheagrocrag on May 30, 2007, 01:42:00 PM
ps: don't use backups online don't let them see what where doing right in front of there faces, make them have to jump through hoops, maybe then there sweet little update will take that much longer.
Post by: BenieUK on May 30, 2007, 01:48:00 PM
QUOTE(demheels @ May 30 2007, 07:36 PM)
Man, reading about this MS25/MS28 thing has given me a headache.
What's the definitive answer regarding these scenarios ...
I have a MS25 that I want to report as a MS25, so I choose Yes/No ?
I have a MS25 that I want to report as a MS28, so I choose Yes/No?
Can someone answer this for not only myself but for others with this same question.
Thanks.
Select YES (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 01:48:00 PM
QUOTE(Valver @ May 30 2007, 04:14 AM)
The situation is further complicated for users who have an MS25 drive and have flashed previously.
If they used an MS28 based hacked firmware and spoofed it as MS25 then they could use either iXtreme option and should be fine. However an MS25 to MS28 version change could be picked up. So maybe continuing to spoof as MS25 is the better bet for this example. This is what I think needs some further clarification.
The other situation is if the MS25 drive used a previous flash with an MS28 based hacked firmware and they left it reporting as MS28 (ie they did the MS25 to MS28 version upgrade a while back) they then CANT spoof back to MS25 surely? Otherwise the dash will notice a DOWNGRADE in version number and E66 on them? (or worse, insta-ban)
So you cant just say "use Yes" or "use No". It depends on what they did previsouly, and what version their drive is currently telling the dash it is...
Anyway - great work C4E. You get my thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)
Its really not that complicated.
Stored somewhere in the NAND flash is the 'original' version of the dvd-rom. If your laser dies, and you send it to MS for repair, they can replace your MS25 with a MS28. This would bypass the e66 error as it allows for upgrades (not downgrades). The version string in the NAND is not changed, therefore original version still replies MS25.
So you can have a hacked/spoofed MS28 on a MS25 and everything would still be legitimate as far as the e66/detection process occurs. Forget about ms28's having firmguard, and thefore being less detectable, or vice versa with ms25.
Post by: baghnah on May 30, 2007, 01:53:00 PM
Post by: haroonie on May 30, 2007, 01:55:00 PM
QUOTE(TIME2PLAYDAGAME @ May 30 2007, 07:57 PM)
JeeZ...Im glad im waiting on the Hitachi. There's too much BS to deal with Sammy drives. Seems like the MS28 has been a curve ball since its release. Hitachi's you just use Slax for Mode B, get into windows & either use Toolbox or cmd. I did do the first Xtreme's on Sammy's, then it got a lil easier with SAMREAD...but it just seems to me that MS28's although probably the best when it comes to fw's, are just annoying to get the job done. lol
i think opposite also. sammy's seem more simple than hitachi
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on May 30, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
QUOTE(bhind69 @ May 30 2007, 03:02 PM)
funny. i think the exact opposite. i think sammy's are easier.
I have no preference. The flashing and reading is easier on a Hitachi because you dont have to use MTKFlash at boot, but actually dealing with the firmware is a lot easier on a Samsung with a single file and only the key to be replaced, not multiple firmware sectors.
Post by: pun_puff on May 30, 2007, 02:02:00 PM
Or do I need to flash my drive prior to the Spring Update?
Post by: mysterybox on May 30, 2007, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: keine on May 30, 2007, 02:04:00 PM
It doesn't matter. If you are unbanned, XBL should work, at least for the extremely near future.
@caster420
So caster, You definately have the most knowledge/info on the firmware and its development. From what I've read of yours and Iriez's is that backups that are not 100% stealthed, ONLINE (or OFF ? ), will get you banned. That is the leading consensus today? I know noone can be 100% sure, but between your comments and Commodore's 100% stealth move, it seems that unstealthed backups = bans.
This post has been edited by keine: May 30 2007, 09:11 PM
Post by: souless82 on May 30, 2007, 02:05:00 PM
QUOTE(sosotiit @ May 30 2007, 08:08 PM)
no one knows exactly if it is even done by MS!! No way to know when it would have started either (if done obviously)
-------------------------
@ VxxRoBxxV
my recommendations if you have a ms25 is to continue what you had before. If it was reported as a ms25 then do that, if it was left as a ms28 then keep it. BUt again just IMHO, feel that changing could only trigger attention
-soso
Thanks,
I have MS28 so I dont think I should use the spoofing feature, what I dont know is if I should format my HDD and create a new live account because I read on some forums that people get banned by HDDS and sometimes even by there accounts. what do you think?
Post by: rgtaa on May 30, 2007, 02:16:00 PM
From what I gather, if I play those games with NETWORK plugged in but not on LIVE, it could log my gaming, but if not plugged in, it shouldn't right. I would play those non-stealthed games using NON-LIVE name.
I know nobody knows for sure , but I'm thinking the checks are for each game update, and if you have network cable plugged in or logged games using gametag. I guess we have to trouble shoot this area. So we could play NON-stealthed games OFFLINE with cable not plugged in and without game updates.
This post has been edited by rgtaa: May 30 2007, 09:20 PM
Post by: KIPPERMAN32 on May 30, 2007, 02:20:00 PM
QUOTE(mysterybox @ May 30 2007, 09:04 PM)
i was just wondering if you could power the 360 dvd drive to a xbox 1 they have the same connectors
Nope...Completely different.
Post by: droideka on May 30, 2007, 02:22:00 PM
QUOTE(rgtaa @ May 30 2007, 09:16 PM)
Some of my backups don't have stealth, so .... If I don't play those games without having network plug connected and I don't update the game (can't if it's not plugged in) , could I play those games OFFLINE?
From what I gather, if I play those games with NETWORK plugged in but not on LIVE, it could log my gaming, but if not plugged in, I shouldn't right. Also, I could create a non-live name and use that NAME to play those non-stealthed games.
I know nobody knows for sure , but I'm thinking the checks are for each game update, and if you have network cable plugged in or logged games using gametag. I guess we have to trouble shoot this area. So we could play NON-stealthed games OFFLINE with cable not plugged in and without game updates.
wrong. m$ might have a way to store information of non-stealth games played somewhere on the console even without the HDD.
Post by: jurassic on May 30, 2007, 02:31:00 PM
I just install IXtreme 1.0 on my MS25 I previously had 5.3C, but I haven't conected to live 3 days before the ban came out, when I find out I unplug my net cable, I had been playing offline a backup, but when I heard games information could be store in flash memory i stop playing any backups. Today I used DVD Muller to check for stealth and find out that the last game i had play did have stealth, but some very old didn't, but haven't playing those like for 2 moths. So i update and try going back to live and Work!!! I'm not ban, I even play some GOW.
I used sproof to MS25. Also I flash with the A/V cables unplug, it only took 1:30 minutes to flash it, so I think is safe, just power on when you have everything ready including the mtkflash comands, so you only have to put in the enable 800 dvd very quickly take out and press enter.
Thanks a lot, this is so great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Do you think is safe to download Halo 3 beta?
I don't want to be too greedy
This post has been edited by jurassic: May 30 2007, 09:34 PM
Post by: rgtaa on May 30, 2007, 02:33:00 PM
I was thinking of keeping a 360 with spring update and play non-stealthed games offline and without game updates, with no network cable plugged in. And hopefully not be banned if and when I decide to dump the non-stealthed games. I'm speculating , trying not to get DEPRESSED about throwing out my non-stealthed backups out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
This post has been edited by rgtaa: May 30 2007, 09:37 PM
Post by: Akegata on May 30, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
Does this firmware make the 360 region free, or does "all" mean "all of the same region"?
Post by: sukilih on May 30, 2007, 02:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Zod5000 @ May 29 2007, 11:16 PM)
Hmm so what are the odds of finding a core with a toshiba-samsung dvd drive in it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I just bought a new premium, not a core i know, but it was a toshiba drive, manufacturing date of 08/2006.
Post by: Sankyou on May 30, 2007, 02:46:00 PM
QUOTE(Akegata @ May 30 2007, 02:37 PM)
What, exactly, does "(v1.0) Boots all Xbox 360 originals" mean?
Does this firmware make the 360 region free, or does "all" mean "all of the same region"?
No it is NOT region-free. These firmwares will not be region-free until they are capable of playing unsigned code (1-2 years at best IMO).
Post by: tonelab77 on May 30, 2007, 03:10:00 PM
Here's my story: I had a samsung ms28 flashed with 5.3c before the update. I played the H3 Beta via crackdown and was banned within a few days. I offered my banned console to a friend whose 360 I modded with 5.2a, who never went online...EVER. FYI: I used his 360 to power the ms28 while it was connected via sata to my pc. He agreed to the trade (thank god!). I got his 360 (that was never on live) home, restored the FW to the orig.bin for his drive, plugged in my HDD and connected to live for the sping update. Ever since that (more than 2 weeks now), I've been playing Halo 3 Beta (via RO3 code) every day for at least 4 hours a day, and NO BAN.
I CAN TRULY SAY THAT M$ IS NOT BANNING FROM KNOWLEDGE OF THE 360 BEING POWERED ON WITHOUT THE DVD DRIVE CONNECTED.
So please stop asking/worrying about it. If you're still concerned, and don't want to use a banned 360 or a connectivity kit to flash with iXtreme, unplug the a/v cable when reading/flashing...and if you can't read/flash a console within 5 minutes, then you have no business flashing any consoles in the first place.
Much props goes to C4E for his tireless efforts!!!
Post by: SD5150 on May 30, 2007, 03:21:00 PM
QUOTE(tonelab77 @ May 30 2007, 02:10 PM)
Okay, I've read all 15 pages of this thread thus far, and I'm sick of this question (sata 360 power) being asked so frequently. Hopefully, this will solve this mystery and save me and many others from reading it over and over, and keep unneeded posts off the thread.
Here's my story: I had a samsung ms28 flashed with 5.3c before the update. I played the H3 Beta via crackdown and was banned within a few days. I offered my banned console to a friend whose 360 I modded with 5.2a, who never went online...EVER. FYI: I used his 360 to power the ms28 while it was connected via sata to my pc. He agreed to the trade (thank god!). I got his 360 (that was never on live) home, restored the FW to the orig.bin for his drive, plugged in my HDD and connected to live for the sping update. Ever since that (more than 2 weeks now), I've been playing Halo 3 Beta (via RO3 code) every day for at least 4 hours a day, and NO BAN.
I CAN TRULY SAY THAT M$ IS NOT BANNING FROM KNOWLEDGE OF THE 360 BEING POWERED ON WITHOUT THE DVD DRIVE CONNECTED.
So please stop asking/worrying about it. If you're still concerned, and don't want to use a banned 360 or a connectivity kit to flash with iXtreme, unplug the a/v cable when reading/flashing...and if you can't read/flash a console within 5 minutes, then you have no business flashing any consoles in the first place.
Much props goes to C4E for his tireless efforts!!!
Did you have the AV cable plugged in when you flashed? You get a 5 min window if it is before the xbox powers off. I have always flashed with my AV cable plugged in, and have not been banned. I don't know why you say unplug the AV cable, it should be left in.
Post by: bob10 on May 30, 2007, 03:25:00 PM
Can someone explain?
Post by: tonelab77 on May 30, 2007, 03:27:00 PM
QUOTE(SD5150 @ May 30 2007, 01:21 PM)
Did you have the AV cable plugged in when you flashed? You get a 5 min window if it is before the xbox powers off. I have always flashed with my AV cable plugged in, and have not been banned. I don't know why you say unplug the AV cable, it should be left in.
YES...I had the a/v cable plugged in. And I will keep doing mods with it plugged in. I only said that for people worried to mod with a/v cables plugged in.
Post by: jurassic on May 30, 2007, 03:27:00 PM
QUOTE(SD5150 @ May 30 2007, 04:21 PM)
Did you have the AV cable plugged in when you flashed? You get a 5 min window if it is before the xbox powers off. I have always flashed with my AV cable plugged in, and have not been banned. I don't know why you say unplug the AV cable, it should be left in.
It seems that now M$ is not banning base on console power on without sata cable, but if you fear it could happen in the furture, just unplug the a/v cables, it will power on with red lights, and you have 5:06 minutes to flash it before it turns off, I flash mine with 3:30 minutes still left after it finish, so if are quick you shouldn't have any problems with these metod.
Post by: rgtaa on May 30, 2007, 03:31:00 PM
I have a couple of questions , your friend had 360 that was never on LIVE, but was he playing backups without stealth? Also, did he have any recent games, GOW, GRAW2, ect, on this 360 because that would have updated the dash. I am interested in this because if i have 360 that is non ever on LIVE, if i played recent games that are non-stealth would we be banned. Not sure if graw2 or command and conquer have fall update on disk?
As to 5 minutes Window of opportunity without A/V cable, it's just to prevent e64 if ms is checking it.
Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 04:19:00 PM
QUOTE(little miss modder @ May 30 2007, 06:45 AM)
but stealth isnt the issue in my opinion, i havent been banned and some of my backups are not stealth so how do u explain that? i wont be updating to this firmware simple because i survuved the banning and i reckon that this would get me cought. and it dosnt bother me if i get banned because my xbox is starting to die contsantly freezing so i'll play this update by ear
You apparently have not been keeping up with the news. It has been discovered *exactly* what commands are being issued to the drive, and what the response is. It is looking at the DMI/PFI sections of the disc ..you know..those things that make the disc stealth?(IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Your logic is flawed. We already know that MS has been collecting data and is banning in 'waves'. Your console is likely flagged, and will be banned when MS gets to it. Dont worry, it will be. End of story.
Post by: smanaton on May 30, 2007, 04:27:00 PM
QUOTE(bob10 @ May 30 2007, 10:25 PM)
Thought DVD5 support would disappear, but the readme says: Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
Can someone explain?
i think he ability to play xbox 1 backups on single layer dvd's is what was lost and not the abilty to play properly stealthed xbox 1 backups on dual layer dvd's
Post by: cerealkillajme on May 30, 2007, 04:29:00 PM
QUOTE(bob10 @ May 30 2007, 04:25 PM)
Thought DVD5 support would disappear, but the readme says: Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
Can someone explain?
He means DL XBOX 1 backups (made just like 360 backups but slightly different layer break).
No more single layer support though.
This post has been edited by cerealkillajme: May 30 2007, 11:30 PM
Post by: feflicker on May 30, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
QUOTE
feflicker, so you got banned after flashing to the firmware? or were you banned before you did it?
I am sure I was banned BEFORE upgrading to the firmware. I just found out about it after I flashed to iXtreme 1.0, because that is the next time I tried to connect to Live
If my post was misleading I apologize, I wasn't implying any blame on iXtreme 1.0 for my banning...
QUOTE
Sorry for asking but... first You say that "After I did the spring update I removed my network cable, haven't connected to Live since. " then You say "I do, however, have my dash set to auto-connect to Live. So it is ALWAYS connected to Live in the background."
Both statements are true. Obviously since the Spring update it hasn't connected at all, because the network cable was not connected.
Up until I removed the network cable I was basically always on Live, just running in the background. This was so I could get messages, chat, etc. I didn't play live matches though, not since COD3 MONTHS AGO. This just confirms what we already knew:
1) You don't necessarily have to play a "Live match" to get banned, just be connected to Live in general (running in the background).
2) MS$ has been logging this activity from before the Spring Update and is obviously banning in waves. Anyone who thinks they are going to use older hacked firmware and stay on Live with their backups is crazy, even if the discs are "stealth"! You will get banned! Listen to Iriez, he knows his $hit!
Post by: mksoftware on May 30, 2007, 04:37:00 PM
Your a hero
Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 04:43:00 PM
QUOTE(mjm6783 @ May 30 2007, 10:19 AM)
Hey modders, catch a clue. The reason Microsoft is banning modded XBoxes is because people use them to cheat in online games. Cheating in online games is equivilant to stealing from the PEOPLE who paid to play fairly. You all probably think that you're somehow "sticking it" to the man. But in reality, all you are doing is opening the door for cheaters. Get a life, you aren't NEO. Modding on Live is criminal, if it was up to me, Microsoft would be able to fry your XBox if they detected cheating.
Hey 'neo', I thought i might clarify something for you. Every single file on a xbox360 disc is 'signed' (except for shaders and .ini files). That means that if you try to modify the content, it BREAKS the signature and the disc will fail (not boot, or freeze).
You *cannot* 'cheat' by modifying content on a xbox360 dvd-r. I've heard of gears .ini settings being altered as its not signed, but i've yet to see any advantage this brings to anyone, or any explantion of what it alters. It is supposedly only hosting settings (ping exceptions, etc).
So, you might want to do your homework before coming on these forums and ranting your morals and personal values at us.
If you want to learn about gamesave hacking, feel free to visit 360gamesaves.com .
Post by: l0tics on May 30, 2007, 04:12:00 PM
Post by: kidman64 on May 30, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
second of all, what's wrong with present stealth games? I've seen some games that were stealth and yet they don't work on iXtreme fw. Are stealth standards somehow different? do we need updated software to patch our backups?
thanks in advance
Post by: tetros on May 30, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
Does any one know if C4E will still work on the Hitachi Xtreme fw for us that have been banned already?
Post by: subse7enx on May 30, 2007, 04:57:00 PM
QUOTE(tetros @ May 30 2007, 03:54 PM)
Great job, he must never sleep!
Does any one know if C4E will still work on the Hitachi Xtreme fw for us that have been banned already?
Once you are banned thats it. There is no firmware that will let you play XBL if your box gets banned.
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This post has been edited by subse7enx: May 30 2007, 11:58 PM
Post by: Digital_sin on May 30, 2007, 04:58:00 PM
I dont have a RLOD 360 and i'm not XTREME enough to try and flash my 360 under 5 minutes
Post by: feflicker on May 30, 2007, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: RGSPro on May 30, 2007, 04:28:00 PM
I am getting mixed messages from everyone I've asked and im still not sure what the safest FW is. My drive has never been "upgraded" so to speak to an ms28 firmware.
Post by: tetros on May 30, 2007, 05:18:00 PM
QUOTE(subse7enx @ May 30 2007, 11:57 PM)
Once you are banned thats it. There is no firmware that will let you play XBL if your box gets banned.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
No, I dont want to play on XBL, I was just saying if C4E will still work on the xtreme fw, not a un-banning method.
Post by: xnoelahg on May 30, 2007, 05:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Iriez @ May 30 2007, 11:43 PM)
You *cannot* 'cheat' by modifying content on a xbox360 dvd-r. I've heard of gears .ini settings being altered as its not signed, but i've yet to see any advantage this brings to anyone, or any explantion of what it alters. It is supposedly only hosting settings (ping exceptions, etc).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4msgVvqvmU
Post by: CooperS on May 30, 2007, 05:50:00 PM
QUOTE(rgtaa @ May 30 2007, 10:31 PM)
sd5150
I have a couple of questions , your friend had 360 that was never on LIVE, but was he playing backups without stealth?
I would also like to know this. I am in the same position - never been on live but have played 1-2 non-stealth backups including a couple of xbox1 dvd5 backups...
I'm gonna update firmware tonight, hopefully I'll be alright...
Post by: omega2468 on May 30, 2007, 05:32:00 PM
Post by: telo{+} on May 30, 2007, 06:09:00 PM
What about the standby-kids ? Should MS ban all users of surfboard cable modems too ?
The only negative you'll see from iXtreme is that the new games will come with almost all files packaged and/or signed. Which is fine b/c people have already found a way in w/ KK. Let them focus on package signing so they can mess up another way.
If the Gears problem was so huge you can be damn sure it would have been fixed with an Update. NOT by banning all the people who have the potential to exploit it.
Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(omega2468 @ May 30 2007, 08:08 PM)
My question is, I restored my drive right around the time of the spring update and have decided not to do the fw flash anymore and just play legit games. I havent been banned yet so does this mean i am possibly safe?
how is that related to this firmware, and what about the pinned saying not to request Am i going to be banned
-soso
Post by: telo{+} on May 30, 2007, 06:12:00 PM
QUOTE(omega2468 @ May 31 2007, 01:08 AM)
My question is, I restored my drive right around the time of the spring update and have decided not to do the fw flash anymore and just play legit games. I havent been banned yet so does this mean i am possibly safe?
Probably. With stock firmware and still no ban I would say its pretty likely you are fine but who knows. Above poster is correct - This is about iXtreme firmware and nothing else.
This post has been edited by telo{+}: May 31 2007, 01:13 AM
Post by: GreenStang99 on May 30, 2007, 06:21:00 PM
I bought this system brand new a week before the spring update, flashed with the 5.3c, and played games normally. I only played originals online. I downloaded the spring update and still no problem. Methods for flashing the drive both times included using my Xecuter Connectivity Kit V2, so the xbox 360 itself was never used to power the DVD drive.
Not banned yet...we'll see what this new FW can do. Way to keep M$ in the dark by the way in not posting what was in this firmware as far as detections. Make them think a little.
Post by: omega2468 on May 30, 2007, 06:21:00 PM
Post by: tonelab77 on May 30, 2007, 06:23:00 PM
QUOTE(rgtaa @ May 30 2007, 01:31 PM)
sd5150
I have a couple of questions , your friend had 360 that was never on LIVE, but was he playing backups without stealth? Also, did he have any recent games, GOW, GRAW2, ect, on this 360 because that would have updated the dash. I am interested in this because if i have 360 that is non ever on LIVE, if i played recent games that are non-stealth would we be banned. Not sure if graw2 or command and conquer have fall update on disk?
As to 5 minutes Window of opportunity without A/V cable, it's just to prevent e64 if ms is checking it.
Yes, he was playing backups without stealth. He had all recent games. How would the games update the dash without it being connected to the internet? Games don't know they need individual updates until you connect to LIVE. As long as you never went on LIVE, you should be ok if you restore to the original FW, or flash the new iXtreme v1.0 (if M$ can't detect it), then connect to live.
Post by: sdeens on May 30, 2007, 06:23:00 PM
It does NOT properly read video layer 1 from a backup recently made by the "modified" XBC v2.5
XBCv2.5 was modified last week by Redline99, but not publically released (he wanted to wait for ixtreme 1.0 to be released)...to avoid confusion and to study it and ultimately post an updated release for public consumption.
We simply modified XBCv2.5 via the Windows Registry Editor (as per his instructions of course) to add these addtional functions to XBCv2.5 so it makes a much more accurate or better 1:1 STEALTH backup of our XBOX and XBOX360 game images with DVD+R DL media.....
It patches our backup images to the new SPLITVID format which is an essential improvement in gaining closer 1:1 backups...its adds about 255mb of data to the image to correct for this layer 0 and layer 1 issues...so its not a small update..its huge!
and I quote today from Redline99 the creator of "XBOX Backup Creator v2.5":
"The game will boot but is now not stealth...
Now, again part of the video is missing, because the new iXtreme is expecting the video all on layer0!
Your SplitVid will be stealth for old Xtreme firmwares but not stealth for iXtreme..."
this simply means if your backup of an XBOX or XBOX360 game was made with the modified XBCv2.5 then the STEALTH function is compromised, despite the game still loading and working correctly in an ixtremev1.0 environment you lose stealth protection. Regular images still made via older XBCv2.5 work fine, but not the recently modifed version which is what we really want to use since its a more accurate rip or backup image..the goal being pure 1:1 at all times.
this is a case of c4eva and REDLINE99 not communicating with each other enough and we have two separate agendas.
The solution is simple:
1. Use the old xterem v5.3 if you want to use closer 1:1 backup images that incorporate the new SPLITVID format...made via 'modifed' XBCv2.5
or ask C4eva to immediately update ixtereme to v2.0 so it works properly now with the new "modifed" XBC v2.5
2. use only older XBCv2.5 "un-modified" to make your STEALTH images but you wont have pure 1:1 backups that have the new SPLITVID format correction.
these inconsistanvcies and different agendas are potentially very dangerous and these two gentlemen need to coordinate better their releases especially in this dynamic baning environment...its is highly expected that MS soon will be paying much closer scrutiny to any minor detectable flaws in these backup images..especially in newer consoles like the Hitachi and other non-firmguard players.
and that SPLITVID is not just a minor flaw..its an essential update to the proper format and video layers of the backup image...that REDLINE99 finally has addressed in this "modified" release last week.
I don't want to bash the great efforts of c4eva (I appreciute them greatly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) but this is still a major flaw in his firmware and it needs to be fixed VERY FAST--especially since it appears to be a simple thing to fix...
I am very surprised it has NOT been discussed by him publically (at least I can't find any threads on this topic)
IS HE GOING TO FIX THE READING OF PROPER 1:1 SPLITVID images so they retain their true STEALTH factors?
you can follow Redline99's comments here if this link is permitted (which it should be since this is extremely vital information on how to make a pure 1:1 backup image):
http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?topic=7640.0
This post has been edited by sdeens: May 31 2007, 01:40 AM
Post by: millertime002 on May 30, 2007, 06:26:00 PM
Post by: tonelab77 on May 30, 2007, 06:28:00 PM
QUOTE(CooperS @ May 30 2007, 03:50 PM)
I would also like to know this. I am in the same position - never been on live but have played 1-2 non-stealth backups including a couple of xbox1 dvd5 backups...
I'm gonna update firmware tonight, hopefully I'll be alright...
You should be just fine if you flash to the new iXtreme v1.0(correctly, and if M$ can't detect), or restore to the original FW. Good luck...and keep us posted.
Post by: telo{+} on May 30, 2007, 06:40:00 PM
QUOTE
There is still one MAJOR flaw with this iXtreme v1.0 release and its potentially a big one (but that's another issue for debate too):
Whoa. Chill out man,
The 'solutions' you posted are no good. If you had your way EVERYONE would have to reburn EVERY game they have.
I have read all of redline's post over the past few day and can only think to say that if this was such an issue then he should have gotten it out sooner OR had an agreement with C4E to come up with a 'this is how it will work' standard. That said, he's doing awesome work on XBC (!) and must have a ton more patience then me b/c I can't stand physical formats.
So, I think instead of reburning everything the new C4E/et al releases should follow the older releases and not use the splitvid format. That is if the Xtreme firmware properly handles all checks to those sectors/layer.
And btw - " pure 1:1 backups" will never happen.
Post by: telo{+} on May 30, 2007, 06:53:00 PM
QUOTE(LesserEvil @ May 31 2007, 01:35 AM)
Look, please listen to me. I used to be a big presence on this board, so I **DO** know what I'm talking about. Let's not spread misinformation, OK?
I'll let you know a little secret. People that really do know what they are talking about usually do not need to plead people to listen to them. From what I have seen you are just rehashing points from other posts.
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To be safe, don't flash using the 360 as a power supply. FUTURE bannings might take that into account as a factor (but not as a lone factor, because of what I stated above)
And what about the southbridge checking for an AV cable only if present allowing the CPU to boot ? Should we STILL not use the powersupply to boot ?
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RECORD YOUR Z-CODES BEFORE GOING ONLINE!!!!!!
This is insignificant. If you are able to log onto Live your code will be 0000-0000 once you are banned then you are banned. MS does not send a request to the console asking it to set the ban code. They do not tell the console that 'hey, 5 more logins then you're banned mister!". Its 0000 or banned. No middle ground or useful info here. Should your code be anything other then banned or 0000 then good luck figuring out what they mean... should we all PM you our codes ?
I'm not being a dick here, but you need to relax a little. Everything you posted has been gone over in this thread already without the size 5 text.
Post by: Surazal on May 30, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
Redline, after learning what c4eva was doing, changed the recommendation not to use the splitvid option.
The reason for that change was simple to keep compatibility with a large number of already delivered releases all calls for the video on Layer 1 would be redirected to Layer 0 without ever telling the 360 it didn't exist on Layer 1 (same as when calls to SS are redirected to different spot). This is possible because the video was all on Layer 0 except for the few personal backups done using the noted as experimental and later not recommended registry edit to enable SplitVid.
Why would you post this inflammatory crap after being shot down over there by Redline himself is beyond reasoning unless your goal is to do nothing more than spread FUD? The fact that you have yet to clarify this shows the lengths you are going to discredit people without any facts. By Th Way - If you are going to start DEMANDING these fixes and having this open communication and doing things how you want. Where are your releases and contributions? Where is the Sdeens firmware and Sdeens backups software?
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Post by: telo{+} on May 30, 2007, 07:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Surazal @ May 31 2007, 02:00 AM)
sdeens you were shot down there in that very thread for not knowing nor understanding the issue.
LOL! I read that thread again after I replied to him. Your right. Pretty funny of him to post "major problem bla bla bla" after being told first hand its not a problem.
And just so everyone knows - there is no problem with Splitvid - don't even consider panicking about it.
Post by: rgtaa on May 30, 2007, 07:21:00 PM
Gee, I would like to know if playing non-stealthed games OFFLINE with no cable connected would get us banned.
Because I generally don't play my games online, and I'm not banned and 2/3 of my backups are not stealth. (MS25 drive)
The thing that confuses me is some people claimed that they were never on live and played backups and when they joined LIVE, they were banned ,immediately.... implying that playing games offline with no cable hookup banned them. If they had cable hooked up, they were still reporting to LIVE, even though not gold. Hard to tell whether these people had other "issues" like being in wrong region, false account info,etc. So they could have been banned for other reasons they didn't list.
Is there anyone here that was banned playing offline without cable plugged in? With no outside issues. Strange gamesaves, out of region games, faulty account info. It stills seems like a QUESTIONABLE area, unless someone who's been around a while can say, "YES, I flashed to 4.2 , got spring update, then played all games offline with cable not plugged in, and I got banned."
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Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 07:26:00 PM
QUOTE(RGSPro @ May 30 2007, 06:04 PM)
Hey Iriez- whats your say on how to flash an MS25 drive? Flash the drive with iXtreme an ms25 firmware (saying yes at the prompt), or flash the drive with iXtreme as an ms28 firmware (saying no at the prompt)?
I am getting mixed messages from everyone I've asked and im still not sure what the safest FW is. My drive has never been "upgraded" so to speak to an ms28 firmware.
Doesnt matter.
I recommend sticking to whatever your original version drive is. However, like i said, it doesnt matter.
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Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 07:31:00 PM
QUOTE(xnoelahg @ May 30 2007, 06:27 PM)
Im sorry, but i fail to see what this has to do with anything. If you are referring to the speed, its very obviously a sped up video. The game uses maximum resources playing at 30fps, you think it could really handle double? lol.
I can shoot through walls and walk straight up the towers in COD3 with my original disc. Does that mean i hacked it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 07:41:00 PM
QUOTE(sdeens @ May 30 2007, 07:23 PM)
There is still one MAJOR flaw with this iXtreme v1.0 release and its potentially a big one (but that's another issue for debate too):
It does NOT properly read video layer 1 from a backup recently made by the "modified" XBC v2.5
XBCv2.5 was modified last week by Redline99, but not publically released (he wanted to wait for ixtreme 1.0 to be released)...to avoid confusion and to study it and ultimately post an updated release for public consumption.
We simply modified XBCv2.5 via the Windows Registry Editor (as per his instructions of course) to add these addtional functions to XBCv2.5 so it makes a much more accurate or better 1:1 STEALTH backup of our XBOX and XBOX360 game images with DVD+R DL media.....
It patches our backup images to the new SPLITVID format which is an essential improvement in gaining closer 1:1 backups...its adds about 255mb of data to the image to correct for this layer 0 and layer 1 issues...so its not a small update..its huge!
and I quote today from Redline99 the creator of "XBOX Backup Creator v2.5":
"The game will boot but is now not stealth...
Now, again part of the video is missing, because the new iXtreme is expecting the video all on layer0!
Your SplitVid will be stealth for old Xtreme firmwares but not stealth for iXtreme..."
this simply means if your backup of an XBOX or XBOX360 game was made with the modified XBCv2.5 then the STEALTH function is compromised, despite the game still loading and working correctly in an ixtremev1.0 environment you lose stealth protection. Regular images still made via older XBCv2.5 work fine, but not the recently modifed version which is what we really want to use since its a more accurate rip or backup image..the goal being pure 1:1 at all times.
this is a case of c4eva and REDLINE99 not communicating with each other enough and we have two separate agendas.
The solution is simple:
1. Use the old xterem v5.3 if you want to use closer 1:1 backup images that incorporate the new SPLITVID format...made via 'modifed' XBCv2.5
or ask C4eva to immediately update ixtereme to v2.0 so it works properly now with the new "modifed" XBC v2.5
2. use only older XBCv2.5 "un-modified" to make your STEALTH images but you wont have pure 1:1 backups that have the new SPLITVID format correction.
these inconsistanvcies and different agendas are potentially very dangerous and these two gentlemen need to coordinate better their releases especially in this dynamic baning environment...its is highly expected that MS soon will be paying much closer scrutiny to any minor detectable flaws in these backup images..especially in newer consoles like the Hitachi and other non-firmguard players.
and that SPLITVID is not just a minor flaw..its an essential update to the proper format and video layers of the backup image...that REDLINE99 finally has addressed in this "modified" release last week.
I don't want to bash the great efforts of c4eva (I appreciute them greatly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) but this is still a major flaw in his firmware and it needs to be fixed VERY FAST--especially since it appears to be a simple thing to fix...
I am very surprised it has NOT been discussed by him publically (at least I can't find any threads on this topic)
IS HE GOING TO FIX THE READING OF PROPER 1:1 SPLITVID images so they retain their true STEALTH factors?
you can follow Redline99's comments here if this link is permitted (which it should be since this is extremely vital information on how to make a pure 1:1 backup image):
http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?topic=7640.0
Im not going to address this post line by line, but i will cover the major issues.
ixtreme is made so that the potential problem of reading back (and authenticating based upon) video data from layer1 is fixed. The proposed problem from Redline99 was that a possible check on previous 'stealth' versions would report back 00000's of data instead of ANY data. c4e has always stated that MS will never ban/inquire video data due to its nature: the disc can be scratched and report back DIFFERENT data. It is not a proper way to check things.
The new firmware addresses this issue, and will report data from layer0 when layer1 is inquired. If you use a little bit of logic, you will realize that this patches ANY possibility of detection via video layer, AS IF it would ever even occour. Since video data cannot be read-back verbatim due to possible scratches, MS can never validate a disc based on video data, whether it is SUPPOSED to be on layer0 or layer1.
Also, redline99 made the 'splitvid' fix in his app quite a while ago, so in regards to your 'communication' error between the two, it was simply done before redline and c4e communicated...period.
The iso's that were built with Redline's 'splitvid' feature will not be compatibile with ixtreme due to it working the way described above.
The reason c4e decided to make the fw this way is obvious: No need to re-make stealth backups. The fw will handle the video on layer1 issue, instead of a program to re-create the iso and reburn.
Unless you think its better to re-do everything? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: xnoelahg on May 30, 2007, 07:48:00 PM
QUOTE(Iriez @ May 31 2007, 02:31 AM)
Im sorry, but i fail to see what this has to do with anything. If you are referring to the speed, its very obviously a sped up video. The game uses maximum resources playing at 30fps, you think it could really handle double? lol.
I can shoot through walls and walk straight up the towers in COD3 with my original disc. Does that mean i hacked it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
That's not a COD3 video, it's a GoW video. It's a video of a game that's been hacked, though. He wasn't using a manual glitch. This is also possible with a few other games. Going twice the speed won't make the game run faster either. He's just moving faster across an environment still rendered at the same rate.
Post by: theguz4l on May 30, 2007, 07:25:00 PM
I upgraded my xbox 360 to 5.2 firm. AFTER the Spring update. I played 1-2 STEALTHED backups (Verified by using them on the new firmware).
I am still unbanned after upgrading to iXtreme 1.0...
My question is this:
Are the stealth backups on older firmware still trackable by Microsoft? Just wondering only because I played ~ 2 hours of stealth backups on the 5.2A firmware (12x original read speed firmware)
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Post by: gerzand on May 30, 2007, 08:03:00 PM
QUOTE(theguz4l @ May 31 2007, 02:01 AM)
I upgraded successfully but QUESTION:
I upgraded my xbox 360 to 5.2 firm. AFTER the Spring update. I played 1-2 STEALTHED backups (Verified by using them on the new firmware).
I am still unbanned after upgrading...
My question is this:
Are the stealth backups on older firmware still trackable by Microsoft? Just wondering only because I played ~ 2 hours of stealth backups on the 5.2A firmware (12x original read speed firmware)
provided that you have not played any non-stealth backups since the fall 2006 update (which is when the first detection schemes were believe to have been implemented by MS) you should be fine- although keep in mind there is no definate science to their rounds of banning based on this alone. The new features of the ixtreme firmware are an attempt to help safeguard against future attempts to differentiate a stealthed backup from an original.
This post has been edited by gerzand: May 31 2007, 03:05 AM
Post by: bo247 on May 30, 2007, 08:06:00 PM
i checked my backup of forza 2 with xdvdmulleter7 beta3 and it shows that the video partition is present but not the video data like i said. is this bad? if so how do i fix it?
Thanks
Post by: dailo_wai on May 30, 2007, 07:32:00 PM
Post by: gerzand on May 30, 2007, 08:13:00 PM
QUOTE(dailo_wai @ May 31 2007, 02:08 AM)
If you do the no video cable trick can you still use the enable 0800 disk to disable the firmware guard? For some reason I can't flash the drive and I am guessing the protection is still enabled even after I insert and remove the enable 0800 disc. Thanks.
Having no video plugged in has no effect on the ability to flash the drive. The xbox is simply supplying power and the ability to eject. What is happening is part of human error. Either you did not burn the enable 0800 disc onto a Dual Layer DVD or you are not using the official version found in the older xtreme41 package for example. Also, it is a common misconception that you need to remove the enable 0800 disc after it has loaded. Simply wait to load the disc until you have already typed in the mtkflash command and give it 10 seconds after the drive shuts. Then hit the key and ur done.
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Post by: dailo_wai on May 30, 2007, 07:40:00 PM
It keeps on saying it can't open the input file, so I am guessing the firmguard is what is stopping it.
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Post by: sosotiit on May 30, 2007, 08:16:00 PM
QUOTE(bo247 @ May 30 2007, 10:06 PM)
ok i understand what irez is saying but if i have a backup that has the video partition present but not the video data. what does this mean?
i checked my backup of forza 2 with xdvdmulleter7 beta3 and it shows that the video partition is present but not the video data like i said. is this bad? if so how do i fix it?
Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
probably created with pad with blanks in ssmerger, the structure is there bu not the content (video file). Do not believe it was key to have the file in up to now (at least), but it would be a very good idea to redo it.
How to resolve, rip from the original again.
see Media Stealth: What is needed and How To Verify, (DMI, PFI, Video Partition, Samsung SS) .
-soso
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Post by: gerzand on May 30, 2007, 08:24:00 PM
QUOTE(dailo_wai @ May 31 2007, 02:16 AM)
I've used the same disc/method to do all of my previous updates so I don't think I am doing anything wrong. Maybe I am taking the disc out too fast, i'll try it again. Thanks!
It keeps on saying it can't open the input file, so I am guessing the firmguard is what is stopping it.
That's a syntax issue. You are probably putting a space where you dont need to or forgetting one. Pay attention to the space between the "r" and "/m" for example.
To dump the current firmware, type: mtkflash r /m xxx.bin (where xxx is the name of the file you want to save)
To flash the drive, type: mtkflash w /m xxx.bin (where xxx is the name of the firmware you wish to flash to the drive)
This post has been edited by gerzand: May 31 2007, 03:29 AM
Post by: dailo_wai on May 30, 2007, 08:28:00 PM
QUOTE(gerzand @ May 31 2007, 03:24 AM)
That's a syntax issue. You are probably putting a space where you dont need to or forgetting one. Pay attention to the space between the "r" and "/m" for example.
To dump the current firmware, type: mtkflash r /m xxx.bin (where xxx is the name of the file you want to save)
To flash the drive, type: mtkflash w /m xxx.bin (where xxx is the name of the firmware you wish to flash to the drive)
Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2007, 08:32:00 PM
QUOTE(xnoelahg @ May 30 2007, 08:48 PM)
That's not a COD3 video, it's a GoW video. It's a video of a game that's been hacked, though. He wasn't using a manual glitch. This is also possible with a few other games. Going twice the speed won't make the game run faster either. He's just moving faster across an environment still rendered at the same rate.
No, it seems pretty clear to me that the train i going faster than it should. Which mean's the entire environment is speed up OR the video is.
If you want to convince me on the matter, how about explaining HOW its done instead of showing me some youtube video that everyone is going to call BS.
Post by: b0nd18t on May 30, 2007, 08:44:00 PM
Post by: Digital_sin on May 30, 2007, 08:56:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0cdDBe_fYo
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=45086
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Post by: l0tics on May 30, 2007, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: readonly on May 30, 2007, 09:41:00 PM
QUOTE(l0tics @ May 31 2007, 04:35 AM)
Ugh. After installing the firmware, I went to play my first game, C&C3. The drive constantly brings the disc to a screeching halt, and once I started the first mission I got an unreadable disc error. It also seems much louder than running an original. I think this firmware needs some work.
i dont have a sammy so im speculating completely but c4eva said he was gonna make it 1 specific read speed for discs? meaning shitty blank media will have trouble reading at the forced speed. If im off my bad.
Post by: Sugar Bears on May 30, 2007, 09:42:00 PM
QUOTE(l0tics @ May 30 2007, 11:35 PM)
Ugh. After installing the firmware, I went to play my first game, C&C3. The drive constantly brings the disc to a screeching halt, and once I started the first mission I got an unreadable disc error. It also seems much louder than running an original. I think this firmware needs some work.
Check your disk, it's either that or the drive. Firmware is fine.
Post by: Digital_sin on May 30, 2007, 09:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Digital_sin @ May 31 2007, 04:32 AM)
gears of war has been confirmed hacked for a while now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0cdDBe_fYo
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=45086
i just forgot to say;
BTW: DO NOT TRY OR USE THIS HACK! this is what got us all banned in the first place! it's only gonna piss off M$ more and get more people banned. #@$% $$# eXo, thanks for nothing you cheating SOB
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Post by: stilts07 on May 30, 2007, 10:45:00 PM
Post by: Digital_sin on May 30, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
QUOTE(stilts07 @ May 31 2007, 05:45 AM)
Is there a way to delete a ban from a box?
nope, sorry. all bans are recorded on a server on Microsoft's side, so unless they delete the ban, you cant get yourself "unbanned".
Post by: gehx on May 30, 2007, 10:55:00 PM
QUOTE(stilts07 @ May 31 2007, 12:45 AM)
Is there a way to delete a ban from a box?
yep, sure is......get a new box
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Post by: Digital_sin on May 30, 2007, 11:02:00 PM
I'm thinking about leaving my 5.3c firmware as-is; I rarely use live anyways (I got a silver account), and I've never read about someone here getting banned with just a silver account.
Post by: freezerburn31 on May 30, 2007, 11:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Digital_sin @ May 31 2007, 01:02 AM)
I've never read about someone here getting banned with just a silver account.
interesting... can anyone confirm that m$ is only banning gold membership accounts?
i personally had a gold when i got banned
Post by: BEVEL on May 30, 2007, 11:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Digital_sin @ May 31 2007, 06:02 AM)
I'm thinking about leaving my 5.3c firmware as-is; I rarely use live anyways (I got a silver account), and I've never read about someone here getting banned with just a silver account.
wrong, there are people who got banned with a silver account
Post by: BEVEL on May 30, 2007, 11:40:00 PM
QUOTE(souless82 @ May 31 2007, 06:37 AM)
But if the old rip works fine on my iXtreme I can be at ease? or not?
I wouldnt know that for sure
Search this forum for the proper way to rip your games.
If you did it that excact way, I guess you should be save.
But dont risk getting banned with playing badly ripped games.
Thats what I would recommend you
Post by: d0ck on May 31, 2007, 01:25:00 AM
d0ck
Post by: Iriez on May 31, 2007, 02:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Digital_sin @ May 30 2007, 10:32 PM)
gears of war has been confirmed hacked for a while now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0cdDBe_fYo
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=45086
So i had heard. No one bothered to show me it yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) To be honest, the developer should NEVER include non-signed files that can alter game settings. I hope this was a heads up for future games.
Post by: RGSPro on May 31, 2007, 02:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ May 31 2007, 09:04 AM)
So i had heard. No one bothered to show me it yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) To be honest, the developer should NEVER include non-signed files that can alter game settings. I hope this was a heads up for future games.
How else is CliffyB gunna cheat now?
Post by: Iriez on May 31, 2007, 02:44:00 AM
QUOTE(skidude2121 @ May 31 2007, 01:24 AM)
Someone can test it by making 'bad rips'
Its been tested. As with every other feature with the firmware. We hold onto these builds privately for a week or more before giving it to the public for a reason.
Post by: mas10 on May 31, 2007, 03:06:00 AM
2) ICH5 SEC SLAVE
i then pick option1 then it always comes up with that error.... (Port :C800, master/slave:b0
Anyone can help me please????
Post by: Neo_9000uk on May 31, 2007, 03:07:00 AM
Very Pleased with the new FW... Excellent work C4eva!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
BTW still not banned!!
This post has been edited by Neo_9000uk: May 31 2007, 10:09 AM
Post by: mas10 on May 31, 2007, 03:09:00 AM
2) ICH5 SEC SLAVE
i then pick option1 then it always comes up with that error.... (Port :C800, master/slave:b0
Anyone can help me please????
Please someone must know!!!
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 31, 2007, 03:24:00 AM
QUOTE(mas10 @ May 31 2007, 04:09 AM)
[/b]Hi friends, I have a ms25 thats been spoofed to ms28. Now everytime i boot into bios and type mtkflash r /m /sata ix10.bin(ixtreme fw) Then it says: 1)ICH5 SEC MASTER
2) ICH5 SEC SLAVE
i then pick option1 then it always comes up with that error.... (Port :C800, master/slave:b0
Anyone can help me please????
Please someone must know!!!
You can find what u need in the tutorials.
I learned all this the hard way tonight with my friend system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Post by: ExiZ on May 31, 2007, 03:59:00 AM
Post by: Digital_sin on May 31, 2007, 04:01:00 AM
QUOTE(TIME2PLAYDAGAME @ May 31 2007, 10:24 AM)
Same thing that happened to me, well not exactly. Anyways, if you have 4.x fw already flashed & are upgrading...You need the 0800 disc to disable firmguard in dos in order to unlock the drive for reading/writing. I assume you already injected your key into the fw & used bootmaker to make your disc(usb/floppy)? If so, just burn the 0800 disc to a DVD+R DL with IMGBURN, then when u get to dos, power on the system & eject the tray. Place the disc in & let it spin up for about 10secs. Eject it and flash as usual.
You can find what u need in the tutorials.
I learned all this the hard way tonight with my friend system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
or if your firmware is 5.2+ you can use a single layer dvd to burn the 0800 disk and upgrade from 5.2+ to iXtreme. But that disk will not work if you're trying to upgrade from iXtreme later on to another firmware because iXtreme will only boot dual layer dvds.
This post has been edited by Digital_sin: May 31 2007, 11:12 AM
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 31, 2007, 04:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Digital_sin @ May 31 2007, 05:01 AM)
or if your firmware is 5.2+ you can use a single layer dvd to burn the 0800 disk and upgrade from 5.2+ to iXtreme. But that disk will not work if you're trying to upgrade from iXtreme later on to another firmware because iXtreme will only boot single layer dvds.
Post by: Digital_sin on May 31, 2007, 04:13:00 AM
QUOTE(TIME2PLAYDAGAME @ May 31 2007, 11:04 AM)
You mean will not boot single layers, right?
noted and corrected
Actually, I mean will only boot dual layer dvds
Post by: Taroth on May 31, 2007, 04:33:00 AM
I have just made a backup of a game with no steath and then injected the DMI, PFI and video from a completely different game. The resulting disc boots and plays fine using the new iXtreme firmware but obviously is not correctly stealthed and, I would imagine, easily detectable by M$.
The only way to be sure youre games are fully stealthed is to make them yourself using a Samsung/Kreon Drive.
If anyone knows of another way to check then please correct me
Post by: cduuffo13 on May 31, 2007, 04:41:00 AM
i have never updated to the spring update which means i have not been online since this update, it keeps asking me to update so i think i am unbanned at the moment.
i have a couple of questions.
as i am unsure if Iextreme is safe at the moment, i want to flash to ORIG update spring update play xbox live, research to see if iextreme is safe (if it is) i then update to iextreme.
i do understand i am running a risk but. is their anything else i should do or not do? thanks
Post by: ewok666 on May 31, 2007, 04:47:00 AM
QUOTE(feflicker @ May 31 2007, 06:43 AM)
I sure would hope so! This new firmware is only supposed to boot "Live Compliant" games! It shouldn't boot a game with improper stealth...
How exactly would the firmware know whether the DMI is the right one? Most (or all) PFI are the sasme AFAIK but DMI's are different depending on game, region etc. So how does the firmware know it's the right/wrong one? I got myself into this by having a number of DMI's floating around....and ultimately I had to start ripping from scratch as I couldn't remember which one was the right one ;-)
Cheers
Post by: BEVEL on May 31, 2007, 05:04:00 AM
QUOTE(ewok666 @ May 31 2007, 11:47 AM)
How exactly would the firmware know whether the DMI is the right one? Most (or all) PFI are the sasme AFAIK but DMI's are different depending on game, region etc. So how does the firmware know it's the right/wrong one? I got myself into this by having a number of DMI's floating around....and ultimately I had to start ripping from scratch as I couldn't remember which one was the right one ;-)
Cheers
I think thats just why there is no .nfo with this iXtreme firmware.
If C4Eva released how he was doing it this time, M$ would be already one step ahead making a "summer-patch"wich would fix this.
All Im saying, they tested it, and it seems to be working
As he said,
Defeats all current and some future Xbox Live detection attempts
Thats basicly all we "need" to know.
Post by: ExiZ on May 31, 2007, 05:04:00 AM
Post by: RuFf rYdA on May 31, 2007, 05:19:00 AM
Who is dumb enough to inject the dmi from another game
They could start comparing the games original dmi with the one on the disk
This post has been edited by RuFf rYdA: May 31 2007, 12:26 PM
Post by: Neo_9000uk on May 31, 2007, 05:28:00 AM
It all just seems speculation to me...
Post by: willy134uk on May 31, 2007, 10:27:00 AM
Post by: SD5150 on May 31, 2007, 10:41:00 AM
QUOTE(CooperS @ May 30 2007, 04:50 PM)
I would also like to know this. I am in the same position - never been on live but have played 1-2 non-stealth backups including a couple of xbox1 dvd5 backups...
I'm gonna update firmware tonight, hopefully I'll be alright...
I have played non stealth games in the past. I got my xbox used, and I am not certain it was never online before. But, I flashed it with xtreme 2.0 I think before I ever took it online. I flashed to 5.3a before the spring update, and still on live. I have not updated to ixtreme yet, but plan to do so this weekend. TS-MS25
Post by: PacinoAllstars on May 31, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ May 31 2007, 06:45 PM)
What is wrong with people? People say and ask the same things over and over in threads and we have to repeat the same things over and over.
It has been said before, C4EVA uses debugging firmware to see the query's going to the drive. He is not just guessing at this and that and seeing what happens. I mean my god, this is electronics. Those of you who manage a bath and body works store might want to leave all the firmware modding to the pro's and just don't worry about how it works, just that it works.
It's been said a million times, you will always be using live at your own risk. The very first version of xtreme software had that disclaimer although over a year later you hear people crying cause they're banned and it's a conspiracy, so on and so forth.. is utterly rediculous. My box is a ms25 that had made it through the ban (so far). I've ran all stealth disc in the last few months and I've been playing halo 3 since it launched.. so. Have upgraded to the ixtreme and am going to town again.. something happens to this box I will reflash a new one with ixtreme and go again! It's called testing.. if your scared, don't do it! Stay with original disc on live! I have plenty of originals and I choose to test, CHOOSE = choice.
So stop worrying about the firmware, about what it does, what it don't do. Take it or leave it. Remember, you are ALWAYS at risk. Have fun hacking! Happy stealth disc'n....
Amen.
My xbox was also banned, and i just bought another one asap. Sold the banned one within 2 hours and testing this baby now brand new with iextreme.
Post by: shadowth on May 31, 2007, 11:14:00 AM
First of all: thanks commodore4eva! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Second:
Had 5.2D, I wasn't banned, and yesterday updated it to the ixtreme. Smooth process, no problem, I didn't attach the video cable, 5 minutes was more than enough for me.
The firmware worked very good. All stealth backups I have over here booted, all the other ones went to that DVD player message.
Alotugh, I has 2 small "problems" (???)
1-When I tried to run my original Halo, I had to load it 3 times so it could run. The first and second time booted to the DVD player message, telling me to put the game on the Xbox.
2-When the bannings started, I cleared the cache. I went to run my Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 backup, it asked for update... It disconnected me from Live, and, when it started to update, it gave an error message (could not downlod update or something of the sort), and exited the game. After 5, or 6 retries I got it to download the update. I don't know if this is related to the fw, game, live or something of the sort. My Guitar Hero 2 backup asked for the update and downloaded it flawlessly.
Anyway, since I survived this banning spree, and now that I know that is safe to change the fw, I'll go back to my original one and stay that way, probably until the end of the year. I love my Xbox Live, I don't wanna risk loosing it, and I cannot afford to buy a new console, even a Core... Let's hope they drop its price to U$ 250.00 by the end of the year! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
So, that's it!
Cheers
Post by: boxxa on May 31, 2007, 12:52:00 PM
QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ May 31 2007, 12:45 PM)
What is wrong with people? People say and ask the same things over and over in threads and we have to repeat the same things over and over.
It has been said before, C4EVA uses debugging firmware to see the query's going to the drive. He is not just guessing at this and that and seeing what happens. I mean my god, this is electronics. Those of you who manage a bath and body works store might want to leave all the firmware modding to the pro's and just don't worry about how it works, just that it works.
It's been said a million times, you will always be using live at your own risk. The very first version of xtreme software had that disclaimer although over a year later you hear people crying cause they're banned and it's a conspiracy, so on and so forth.. is utterly rediculous. My box is a ms25 that had made it through the ban (so far). I've ran all stealth disc in the last few months and I've been playing halo 3 since it launched.. so. Have upgraded to the ixtreme and am going to town again.. something happens to this box I will reflash a new one with ixtreme and go again! It's called testing.. if your scared, don't do it! Stay with original disc on live! I have plenty of originals and I choose to test, CHOOSE = choice.
So stop worrying about the firmware, about what it does, what it don't do. Take it or leave it. Remember, you are ALWAYS at risk. Have fun hacking! Happy stealth disc'n....
Well said, I am going to put the new firmware on my 360 tonight and see how it goes. I have 5.2a and am currently unbanned. I have not played any backups since the update online or offline. Intrested to see the results.
Post by: Iriez on May 31, 2007, 01:26:00 PM
QUOTE(shadowth @ May 31 2007, 12:50 PM)
Well, huge thread... Here are my thoughts!
First of all: thanks commodore4eva! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Second:
Had 5.2D, I wasn't banned, and yesterday updated it to the ixtreme. Smooth process, no problem, I didn't attach the video cable, 5 minutes was more than enough for me.
The firmware worked very good. All stealth backups I have over here booted, all the other ones went to that DVD player message.
Alotugh, I has 2 small "problems" (???)
1-When I tried to run my original Halo, I had to load it 3 times so it could run. The first and second time booted to the DVD player message, telling me to put the game on the Xbox.
2-When the bannings started, I cleared the cache. I went to run my Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 backup, it asked for update... It disconnected me from Live, and, when it started to update, it gave an error message (could not downlod update or something of the sort), and exited the game. After 5, or 6 retries I got it to download the update. I don't know if this is related to the fw, game, live or something of the sort. My Guitar Hero 2 backup asked for the update and downloaded it flawlessly.
Anyway, since I survived this banning spree, and now that I know that is safe to change the fw, I'll go back to my original one and stay that way, probably until the end of the year. I love my Xbox Live, I don't wanna risk loosing it, and I cannot afford to buy a new console, even a Core... Let's hope they drop its price to U$ 250.00 by the end of the year! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
So, that's it!
Cheers
There was a beta version of ixtreme floating around that had a bug in which originals would have booting issues. Make sure you get your firmware updates from trusted sources (e.g. xbins) and you should not have this problem.
If you did such, and still have the issues, I would ask two things: Did your disc boot flawless with 5.2, and is it scratched?
Post by: dmitri on May 31, 2007, 03:11:00 PM
I feel sorry for the chump who get's banned, ebay's his xbox, gets another, then gets banned in the next wave of bans.
Until one side is in checkmate, the software theives will be rats scurrying around Microsoft's feet, waiting for their next step.
-dp
Post by: shadowth on May 31, 2007, 03:29:00 PM
Is there a md5 or sfv available (or can someone provide me, unless it is illegal to provide this) of the original fw that comes with the package, in this final version? I got it from a trusted source, but not directly from xbins, so, this may be the problem. Or, is there any way to find out if I have a beta or final version?
And, with 5.2 it always booted ok, and the disc ir near perfect, I take REALLY good care of them.
Anyway, it's not a complaint or anything about it! I don't have the right to do that, it's just my reports!
So, if someone gives me the sfv or md5 of the .bin that comes with the package I can tell you if it's the final version or not!
Thanks!
Post by: sosotiit on May 31, 2007, 03:36:00 PM
just do the update of XBMaker 5.3 for ixtreme ( http://caster420.360mods.net/iXtremedef.rar ) by placing the file 5xDef.xml it contains in C:\Program Files\X-Projects\Xtreme Boot Maker, if the package you have opens in XBM it is the right one.
if it is not the right one, it will say import failed.
(ref Quick Tutorial: Xtreme Boot Maker 5.3 Rc1 And 3.6)
-soso
This post has been edited by sosotiit: May 31 2007, 10:38 PM
Post by: shadowth on May 31, 2007, 03:58:00 PM
So, updated it, and it imported the ixtreme I have without any problems! So, I really got the final version! And, I'm 100% sure my disc is in perfect conditions. I've never had this problem with 5.2D (the only other fw I used beside ixtreme and the original one).
Post by: mas10 on May 31, 2007, 04:38:00 PM
Post by: sephiro499 on May 31, 2007, 04:39:00 PM
QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ May 31 2007, 04:45 PM)
What is wrong with people? People say and ask the same things over and over in threads and we have to repeat the same things over and over.
Most people are clueless and to be honest it can be hard to find accurate and up to date information. If you check out the tutorial section of xbox scene alot of the stuff is obsolete. Xboxscene would greatly benefit from a forum upgrade, something similiar to what they use over at fatwallet, with a user editable 'cheat sheet' that basically summarizes the ENTIRE thread right below the first post.
Post by: hordak on May 31, 2007, 04:57:00 PM
Mines the only Hitachi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: pu1se on May 31, 2007, 05:08:00 PM
Updated from orig.bin to ix10.bin last night and I am having a couple of issues.
1st - The drive makes a whining noise during the faster disc access parts of the reading. Didn't do this before.
2nd - When inserting non-stealthed games into the tray and closing, I do not always get the 'insert into 360' error screen. Sometimes the screen turns black and res. changes to 480p and does nothing, and other times it will start to turn white like it is trying to go to the error screen but pauses and freezes before it is displayed.
I've flashed a total of 2 times using the bad-flash method and both times I downloaded the fw and created the fw from scratch. It works, but these 2 issues kinda have me scratching my head. Any ideas what might be causing this? So far as I can tell, both flashes went perfectly.
Thanks in advance!
oh, mine is ms28 drive btw
This post has been edited by pu1se: Jun 1 2007, 12:09 AM
Post by: telo{+} on May 31, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(pu1se @ Jun 1 2007, 12:44 AM)
2nd - When inserting non-stealthed games into the tray and closing,
W H Y would you do this ?
Stop trying to use non-stealthed, problem fixed.
Post by: Relativity on May 31, 2007, 05:26:00 PM
Post by: shadowth on May 31, 2007, 05:29:00 PM
Post by: pu1se on May 31, 2007, 05:31:00 PM
QUOTE(telo{+} @ Jun 1 2007, 12:59 AM)
W H Y would you do this ?
Stop trying to use non-stealthed, problem fixed.
Well, honestly I can't remember which all discs were properly stealthed. Easiest way I knew to find out was to see if ix10 would boot it or not. I don't see the issue if the game doesn't boot, and I also don't see why you would get upset at my actions. I realize the potential danger of doing this or of even putting the hacked fw on my drive in the first place. Replacing a 360, fortunately enough, will not break my piggy bank.
The main point of my post was whether or not this was normal behavior for the ix10 fw or at least a known bug someone else might have. Someone else might like to know my experience thus far with it as well. Also, to stop trying to use non-stealthed discs would help me with a whiny drive issue how exactly?
Honestly, how was your reply productive in any way?
Post by: Iriez on May 31, 2007, 05:32:00 PM
QUOTE(pu1se @ May 31 2007, 06:44 PM)
Hey all.
Updated from orig.bin to ix10.bin last night and I am having a couple of issues.
1st - The drive makes a whining noise during the faster disc access parts of the reading. Didn't do this before.
2nd - When inserting non-stealthed games into the tray and closing, I do not always get the 'insert into 360' error screen. Sometimes the screen turns black and res. changes to 480p and does nothing, and other times it will start to turn white like it is trying to go to the error screen but pauses and freezes before it is displayed.
I've flashed a total of 2 times using the bad-flash method and both times I downloaded the fw and created the fw from scratch. It works, but these 2 issues kinda have me scratching my head. Any ideas what might be causing this? So far as I can tell, both flashes went perfectly.
Thanks in advance!
oh, mine is ms28 drive btw
1st: the firmware is now replicating the original firmware in every way possible, which includes a hard coded 12x read speed. This is likely what causes the 'whining'.
2nd: odd. Havnt heard that one yet. It should either give 'unplayable disc' or 'please insert this disc into a xbox360' depending whether the video data is present or missing.
shadowth: I'll mention it to c4e, though the bug should have been resolved. No other complaints of originals not booting yet.
Post by: pu1se on May 31, 2007, 05:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jun 1 2007, 01:08 AM)
1st: the firmware is now replicating the original firmware in every way possible, which includes a hard coded 12x read speed. This is likely what causes the 'whining'.
2nd: odd. Havnt heard that one yet. It should either give 'unplayable disc' or 'please insert this disc into a xbox360' depending whether the video data is present or missing.
shadowth: I'll mention it to c4e, though the bug should have been resolved. No other complaints of originals not booting yet.
Thanks. I think I'm just going to use the 360 how it is since it is very much functional. Whining seems to change from backup to backup. I use Verb. d\l always but have been using a new Sony (bleh!) writer. Maybe that might have something to do with it.
Post by: Magixx on May 31, 2007, 07:09:00 PM
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on May 31, 2007, 07:10:00 PM
QUOTE(pu1se @ May 31 2007, 07:13 PM)
Thanks. I think I'm just going to use the 360 how it is since it is very much functional. Whining seems to change from backup to backup. I use Verb. d\l always but have been using a new Sony (bleh!) writer. Maybe that might have something to do with it.
Post by: KillMeStupid on May 31, 2007, 08:29:00 PM
I've just flashed my ms25 (made sure it had the right version, key, etc etc etc), and it seemed to have been completed successfully. Then I tried to read from the just flashed drive into another bin file so I can compare it with the original hacked bin to see if it flashed correctly. Nothing happens, I have to press the esc key in order to get back to the prompt. Mtkflash tells me the status of the drive is 53, while it should be 70. I've tried multiple times to read the flash but nothing happens.
I checked if my 360 was working correctly, and tried to play two backups (one with stealth, one without). The stealth copy booted correctly, while the unstealthed copy didn't (just gave me unplayable disc). I assume from this that this is how it's supposed to act.
It probably did flash correctly but not being able to read from the drive has me a little worried. Any ideas?
Props to C4E.
This post has been edited by KillMeStupid: Jun 1 2007, 03:31 AM
Post by: 0794 on May 31, 2007, 08:30:00 PM
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on May 31, 2007, 09:11:00 PM
QUOTE(KillMeStupid @ May 31 2007, 11:05 PM)
Yo dudes.
I've just flashed my ms25 (made sure it had the right version, key, etc etc etc), and it seemed to have been completed successfully. Then I tried to read from the just flashed drive into another bin file so I can compare it with the original hacked bin to see if it flashed correctly. Nothing happens, I have to press the esc key in order to get back to the prompt. Mtkflash tells me the status of the drive is 53, while it should be 70. I've tried multiple times to read the flash but nothing happens.
I checked if my 360 was working correctly, and tried to play two backups (one with stealth, one without). The stealth copy booted correctly, while the unstealthed copy didn't (just gave me unplayable disc). I assume from this that this is how it's supposed to act.
It probably did flash correctly but not being able to read from the drive has me a little worried. Any ideas?
Props to C4E.
You need the 0800 disc [Burned to a dual layer with CloneCD]
QUOTE(pu1se @ May 31 2007, 08:13 PM)
Thanks. I think I'm just going to use the 360 how it is since it is very much functional. Whining seems to change from backup to backup. I use Verb. d\l always but have been using a new Sony (bleh!) writer. Maybe that might have something to do with it.
Same as always.
This post has been edited by OriginalCompGeek: Jun 1 2007, 04:12 AM
Post by: KillMeStupid on May 31, 2007, 10:11:00 PM
QUOTE(OriginalCompGeek @ Jun 1 2007, 04:47 AM)
You need the 0800 disc [Burned to a dual layer with CloneCD]
Oh, I thought it was just for backing up games.
Thanks!
Post by: sanjob on June 01, 2007, 02:50:00 AM
I’m having trouble flashing my Ms25 drive (running xtreme 5.3d firmware at the moment). Anyway when I try to flash the drive with iXtreme firmware 1.0 I’m having the following issue?
The commands I’ve tried:-
Mtkflash w /m ix10.bin (worked the last time)
Mtkflash w / m /sata ix10.bin
Message below is displayed
PORT: e800, Master/slave: A0
Status = 51, should be 70 (this happens when I press escape)
I’m using the same setup I use before to flash the drive to xtreme 5.3d (connectivity kit v2 and mtkflash). My pc has the following motherboard K8v se deluxe (chipset via k8t800)
PS I tried the 10 second method (is this the correct way to do it :- when you get the PORT: e800, Master/slave: A0 message you switch the drive of for 10 seconds then back on again?)
Thanks for any help in advance
Would the 0800 disk method work if so where can I get it?
Sanjob
This post has been edited by sanjob: Jun 1 2007, 10:09 AM
Post by: NorthernLightsX on June 01, 2007, 03:40:00 AM
NorthernLightsX
Post by: RuFf rYdA on June 01, 2007, 03:41:00 AM
Post by: leeds1970 on June 01, 2007, 04:58:00 AM
QUOTE(RuFf rYdA @ Jun 1 2007, 11:17 AM)
c4e told me its in the internal beta , might come out in weekend
i hope so just got a new core and its got a a hitachi drive
great work on the samsung fw m8
keep up the great work
Post by: kugovich on June 01, 2007, 05:20:00 AM
QUOTE(sanjob @ Jun 1 2007, 01:14 PM)
When do you insert the disk 0800 disk?
Right before you do the mtkflash commands, let it spin for about 10 seconds and then take it out of the drive.
Post by: sosotiit on June 01, 2007, 05:26:00 AM
flashing help is ^^
do not request firmware component here (including 0800 disc) and do not post url
as far as having the right package (Zak), plse install the update (^url^) of XBM for ixtreme and if the package opens in XBM it is the right one.
soso
This post has been edited by sosotiit: Jun 1 2007, 12:33 PM
Post by: mrjkwik on June 01, 2007, 06:11:00 AM
My bootdisk is already prepared since my orig.bin is already on my pc from the first time.
1. I boot the computer first to prompt, then enter the mtkflash command but do not hit enter.
2. Power on 360 by hitting eject. This will pop open the tray, and I put in the 0800 disc but dont close the drive.
3. Now I hit enter.
4. Then close the drive and wait about 20-30 seconds.
5. Next I select my primary and flashing begins.
Total time is about 2 minutes, so I'd have 3 minutes to spare from the 360 auto shutting down from not having the a/v cable in.
Yes, nothing new in this post. Sometimes its nice to have something reiterated for those that don't go searching for it.
This post has been edited by mrjkwik: Jun 1 2007, 01:13 PM
Post by: vydex on June 01, 2007, 06:16:00 AM
I though oh what the hell and flashed the drive godman C4E firmware ixtreme, i then turned the box back on to testout and play shadowrun and again I had the cant connect xbox live do you want to test connection thing come up again, I said no and low and behold it connected to live without any problem whatsoever and I played gears of war with a backup with no problems at all.
Has anyone else had this happen as it seems to strange to be banned then not banned, are M$ trying to tell me something considering I had 2 360s on live at one point??
Some opions would be nice here as this is strange fook!!!
Post by: vicious6969 on June 01, 2007, 06:32:00 AM
Good work guys tho. Also, what is the best link to the best definitive guide to flashing to this firmware for a TS drive?
Post by: Mumid on June 01, 2007, 06:52:00 AM
Quick question, slightly off topic but related to this firmware in that it is about avoiding detection... Is there any way for MS to detect the booktype of the disk? Some of my backups come up as DVD-DL as the booktype rather than DVD-ROM. Could this potentially be detected and get me banned?
Post by: Junior04 on June 01, 2007, 06:52:00 AM
QUOTE(vicious6969 @ Jun 1 2007, 03:08 PM)
Wonder how long it will be before it's 'safe' to move to this firmware, 1 month, 6?...
Good work guys tho. Also, what is the best link to the best definitive guide to flashing to this firmware for a TS drive?
MS25/MS28 Flashing Tutorial
I used this tutorial to flash my MS28 with the 5.3c firmware and gonna flash the same way to flash my drive with the new iXtreme 1.0 tonight if I have some free time. Just dont forget to disconnent your X360 videocable for less chance for a ban.
Good luck.
This post has been edited by Junior04: Jun 1 2007, 01:53 PM
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on June 01, 2007, 06:54:00 AM
Flashed out of the box(never on live), MS09 or is it MS28 now? lol Spoofed as 59DJ. So far, so good...I'll keep ya updated though. Used my banned system to power up. I wasn't sure if anyone tried an MS09? So yea, just a heads up..its works! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I also have another new box with a 59DJ that's waiting for iXtreme for Hitachi drives (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
2 yr warranties on both (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
Post by: sosotiit on June 01, 2007, 06:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Mumid @ Jun 1 2007, 09:28 AM)
Firmware installed and working fine, thanks C4eva
Quick question, slightly off topic but related to this firmware in that it is about avoiding detection... Is there any way for MS to detect the booktype of the disk? Some of my backups come up as DVD-DL as the booktype rather than DVD-ROM. Could this potentially be detected and get me banned?
Not 100% sure
Believe in fact the system continues to only allow dvd-r to run BUT
the way it works is that the DVD firmware will always report a request for the booktype as dvd-rom (whether it is or not) so the system think it is ok. In such case all should be fine
-soso
Post by: hordak on June 01, 2007, 07:04:00 AM
I flashed 4 ms25's with ixtreme. All work fine but one of them signs into live ok but when I put a game in, it loads then comes up with "disconnected from xbox live", then a couple of seconds later it signs in again and you can carry on as normal. Never did this before.
Post by: sosotiit on June 01, 2007, 07:07:00 AM
-soso
Post by: Firf on June 01, 2007, 08:06:00 AM
That is completely normal. You must have never really paid attention before. Nothing to worry about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: compute x on June 01, 2007, 10:22:00 AM
Flashed with a/v cable attached from orig to 5.0 to 5.2.
Pulled the plug before update hit, not been on... checked Live and did spring update before flashing to iX.. not banned.
Flashed to iX using red-ring/no a/v cable method and VIA card.
Played on live a few times, updated a few games, downloaded the Forza 2 demo.. all good, not banned.
Thanks to C4Eva and everyone who helped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
This post has been edited by compute x: Jun 1 2007, 05:23 PM
Post by: DaShiZNiT on June 01, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE(Firf @ Jun 1 2007, 09:42 AM)
Hordak,
That is completely normal. You must have never really paid attention before. Nothing to worry about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
wasnt there an update? thats what usually happens to me when I havent played a game for a while
Post by: SovietSlayer on June 01, 2007, 11:50:00 AM
QUOTE(Zod5000 @ May 29 2007, 11:16 PM)
Hmm so what are the odds of finding a core with a toshiba-samsung dvd drive in it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
When i sold my console i bought a core from gamestop and it was from 6/2006 with a toshiba-samsung dvd drive.
Post by: albertgao on June 01, 2007, 11:59:00 AM
second comes my report , I flashed both of my boxes , both ms28 , with ixtreme, both works flawlessly. I had 5.2c on both of them , and not banned so far, Because I *ONLY* played GOW on live when it first came out , (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . I then tried my back ups and relized about 1/3 of my shit are not properly done ( riped with WXRIPER back in the days (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) so I flashed back to 5.3d on the off line one just for the bad rips.
Am I the only guy here bought the connectivity kit on this forum? I bought it when it first came out and flashed MANY boxes with it, well worth it cuz it saves time and headhack, and never worried about the LOG
or what ever it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: sncboom2k on June 01, 2007, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE(hordak @ Jun 1 2007, 01:40 PM)
Strange thing here also.
I flashed 4 ms25's with ixtreme. All work fine but one of them signs into live ok but when I put a game in, it loads then comes up with "disconnected from xbox live", then a couple of seconds later it signs in again and you can carry on as normal. Never did this before.
This was a normal occurence for my MS25 when I had the NME chip in it. It's not unusual. Just annoying.
Post by: johnm92627 on June 01, 2007, 12:15:00 PM
Read through ALL of these long posts.
I have 2- 360s both have Samsung drives.
One with with 5.1 and has had the firmware updated many times. It has not been on live since 05/08.
I am going to update this one with 1.0 this weekend.
The other had it's firmware updated when it was new on 01/29. Never online or turned on before having the firmware. I do not know what the version the firmware is. I unplugged it about 10 days ago and it still seemed fine and not banned. My plan was to leave this one and see if it gets banned. From what I have read no one has been banned that updated their firmware when new. Am I correct?
Post by: Junior04 on June 01, 2007, 12:34:00 PM
I am using Xtremebootmaker 0.5.3 rc2 to load my ixtreme firmware and make a bootable usb drive.
When i try to load my ixtreme firmware i gives me import error.
Can anybody help me with this please??
Or is there another easy way to make my USN bootable?
Thanx.
This post has been edited by Junior04: Jun 1 2007, 07:35 PM
Post by: sosotiit on June 01, 2007, 12:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Junior04 @ Jun 1 2007, 03:10 PM)
I have a burning question.
I am using Xtremebootmaker 0.5.3 rc2 to load my ixtreme firmware and make a bootable usb drive.
When i try to load my ixtreme firmware i gives me import error.
Can anybody help me with this please??
Or is there another easy way to make my USN bootable?
Thanx.
both answer in How To Update To iXtreme: Tutorial, Xtreme Boot maker / Via card method,
how to correct import error,
and how to do without
-soso
Post by: Junior04 on June 01, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
when i click to make the bootable floppy then i get this error.
Photo1
Then i get to choose Cancel/ Retry/ Continue.
I choose Retry en then it sasy Complete.
When i go to boot floppy en turn my xbox on when my pc goes on.
My Satacard starts searching for Stata drives and then gets this error.
Photo2
When i press "G' i get next message.
Photo3
Then it goes further.
When i am in the bootable floppy menu i type.
mtkflash w /m ix10.bin
to start flash but gets a message of no devices found.
Please need some advice.
Thanx.
Post by: SomeDudeWhack on June 01, 2007, 04:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Junior04 @ Jun 1 2007, 09:21 PM)
Then it goes further.
When i am in the bootable floppy menu i type.
mtkflash w /m ix10.bin
to start flash but gets a message of no devices found.
Please need some advice.
Thanx.
welcome to the club.... i usually have this problem nearly everytime i mod a 360.. ive done about 20.... what i figured out to work every time..... have the drive hooked up when ur car is trying to recognize it.... it will sit there and not recognize it properly, then give u an error.. turn off the 360 then hit whatever key it tells u to continue on screen.... wait for whatever boot up junk ur using to load... turn on the 360, then try the command..... could be a dif set of problems, but that seems to work everytime for me...
Post by: mas10 on June 01, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
When i am in the bootable floppy menu i type.
mtkflash w /m ix10.bin
to start flash but gets a message of no devices found.
Please need some advice.
Thanx.
Had the same problem. You have enable sata through your bios. It has to do with your bios settings
Post by: Trekboy on June 01, 2007, 05:29:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on June 01, 2007, 05:35:00 PM
Ignore the above if your key was successfully copied with samtool.
Post by: Kslmgd on June 01, 2007, 05:44:00 PM
then plug in sata to samsung and it sould detect it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
This post has been edited by Kslmgd: Jun 2 2007, 12:48 AM
Post by: bishop05 on June 01, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
Z: 8015 - 190D
I just updated the firm ware and did'nt even update my dash yet. infact I have my 360 disconnected from the network for a few weeks/
This post has been edited by bishop05: Jun 2 2007, 12:54 AM
Post by: Knasen on June 01, 2007, 06:11:00 PM
QUOTE(bishop05 @ Jun 2 2007, 02:23 AM)
Dose this error code mean i was banned?
Z: 8015 - 190D
I just updated the firm ware and did'nt even update my dash yet. infact I have my 360 disconnected from the network for a few weeks/
Z: 000.... is good, everything else is bad!
Post by: digitalme on June 01, 2007, 06:14:00 PM
Post by: Devryn on June 01, 2007, 06:16:00 PM
"1: XTREME Pri Master"
"2: XTREME Pri Slave"
I choose 1. It says "Port: 9f0, Master/Slave: a0"
That's it. Nothing else happens. I can hit escape and interrupt it, but nothing happens. Any ideas?
EDIT: I didn't know about the 0800 disc. Sorry guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
This post has been edited by Devryn: Jun 2 2007, 01:31 AM
Post by: Kslmgd on June 01, 2007, 06:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Devryn @ Jun 2 2007, 01:52 AM)
So here's the deal. First, I have the exact same setup as I had when I flashed to 5.3a. Nothing has change on my computer. My drive is an MS-25. So I take the key from my original backup and apply it to ix10.bin with the patcher included in the rar. I disconnect everything from the pc but the XBox and Floppy. I start the PC and 360 at the same time. I boot from the exact same floppy (now with the ix10.bin file on it). I run "mtkflash w /m ix10.bin" It says choose your drive. I get:
"1: XTREME Pri Master"
"2: XTREME Pri Slave"
I choose 1. It says "Port: 9f0, Master/Slave: a0"
That's it. Nothing else happens. I can hit escape and interrupt it, but nothing happens. Any ideas?
EDIT: I didn't know about the 0800 disc. Sorry guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
disconnect xbox till floppy boots to a:\ then plug sata in with xbox already on type mtk etc...
try that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
Post by: MPA on June 01, 2007, 07:16:00 PM
I made myself a verify.bin to check everything matches up OK - anyone know how I verify my flash using a hex editor? I got the ix10.bin file i flashed with and the verify.bin I made afterwards, was wondering if there was some quick way I could verify both files match rather than going through every single line in a hex editor.
Out of interest, anyone know how c4eva writes these firmware files, I'd love to have a look at the code or something....he can't write it all in hex...
Post by: Iriez on June 01, 2007, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE(shadowth @ May 31 2007, 12:50 PM)
1-When I tried to run my original Halo, I had to load it 3 times so it could run. The first and second time booted to the DVD player message, telling me to put the game on the Xbox.
Well, i discussed it with c4e, and he double checked the public release and the fix for originals is definitly present. Likely the issue at hand is your previous firmware read originals at a slower speed (5.2D right?) and the new firmware is hardcoded at 12x. This could present a problem with worn-down lasers.
Post by: sosotiit on June 01, 2007, 07:23:00 PM
QUOTE(MPA @ Jun 1 2007, 09:52 PM)
Just flashed to Ixtreme.
I made myself a verify.bin to check everything matches up OK - anyone know how I verify my flash using a hex editor? I got the ix10.bin file i flashed with and the verify.bin I made afterwards, was wondering if there was some quick way I could verify both files match rather than going through every single line in a hex editor.
Out of interest, anyone know how c4eva writes these firmware files, I'd love to have a look at the code or something....he can't write it all in hex...
put them both in a ZIP or rar files and you will get the crc32 by selecting it as a column, that is sufficient.
if not I use HHD Hex editor that has a compare of two files, but a few others have it as well.
-soso
(IMG:http://memberuploads.xbox-scene.com/uploads/2007_06_02/04_26_14_verify.jpg)
This post has been edited by sosotiit: Jun 2 2007, 02:52 AM
Post by: xboxdawg on June 01, 2007, 08:15:00 PM
Thanks,
XBD
Post by: Minotaur on June 01, 2007, 09:15:00 PM
Just looking forward to a "C" version to quiet the drive down a bit now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
QUOTE(Devryn @ Jun 2 2007, 01:52 AM)
So here's the deal. First, I have the exact same setup as I had when I flashed to 5.3a. Nothing has change on my computer. My drive is an MS-25. So I take the key from my original backup and apply it to ix10.bin with the patcher included in the rar. I disconnect everything from the pc but the XBox and Floppy. I start the PC and 360 at the same time. I boot from the exact same floppy (now with the ix10.bin file on it). I run "mtkflash w /m ix10.bin" It says choose your drive. I get:
"1: XTREME Pri Master"
"2: XTREME Pri Slave"
I choose 1. It says "Port: 9f0, Master/Slave: a0"
That's it. Nothing else happens. I can hit escape and interrupt it, but nothing happens. Any ideas?
EDIT: I didn't know about the 0800 disc. Sorry guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Add /sata in to your command line. You should end up with:
mtkflash w /m /sata ix10.bin
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on June 01, 2007, 09:37:00 PM
Post by: Devryn on June 01, 2007, 09:58:00 PM
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on June 01, 2007, 10:03:00 PM
QUOTE(Devryn @ Jun 1 2007, 11:34 PM)
Can you not downgrade firmware? I installed iXtreme 1.0. Found out I was banned, now I want to downgrade so I can play my backups that wouldn't work with iXtreme. It's not letting me. Is there a special command or something?
Post by: Devryn on June 01, 2007, 10:10:00 PM
QUOTE(TIME2PLAYDAGAME @ Jun 2 2007, 12:39 AM)
You need the 0800 disc to unlock firmguard.
I have it. I booted the comp. Typed in my command, started the 360 by opening the tray. Hit enter to run mtkflash. Closed the tray. I waited 30 seconds and selected 1 (primary). Then it freezes at Port: 9f0, Master/Slave: a0
I can hit escape to interrupt, but other than that...Nothing.
Post by: TIME2PLAYDAGAME on June 01, 2007, 10:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Devryn @ Jun 1 2007, 11:46 PM)
I have it. I booted the comp. Typed in my command, started the 360 by opening the tray. Hit enter to run mtkflash. Closed the tray. I waited 30 seconds and selected 1 (primary). Then it freezes at Port: 9f0, Master/Slave: a0
I can hit escape to interrupt, but other than that...Nothing.
For mine, that didnt work & for w/e reason when i plugged my sata hdd back in & had the TS drive on the other channel, it picked it up. Just keep trying different methods is all i can say...unless someone knows better? Good luck!
This post has been edited by TIME2PLAYDAGAME: Jun 2 2007, 05:17 AM
Post by: Digital_sin on June 01, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Devryn @ Jun 2 2007, 05:46 AM)
I have it. I booted the comp. Typed in my command, started the 360 by opening the tray. Hit enter to run mtkflash. Closed the tray. I waited 30 seconds and selected 1 (primary). Then it freezes at Port: 9f0, Master/Slave: a0
I can hit escape to interrupt, but other than that...Nothing.
make sure the 0800 disk is burned to a dual layer dvd, single layer dvds are no longer supported.
Post by: rjtd on June 02, 2007, 04:40:00 AM
Post by: copter71 on June 02, 2007, 05:04:00 AM
Post by: sosotiit on June 02, 2007, 05:08:00 AM
QUOTE(copter71 @ Jun 2 2007, 07:40 AM)
If your banned then why not? If you aren't banned then no.
exactly the ooposite
if you arent ban, why not (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
-soso
Post by: Junior04 on June 02, 2007, 05:22:00 AM
The problem was solved by booting the pc without the X360 on.
Then when typed mtkflash w /m ix10.bin and before hitting Enter bot the X360 and hit Enter.
It detected my X360 selected option 1 (had only 1) and Powered off my X360, waited 10 sec and booted up.
Flashing started and was done.
Unfortunately when took the X360 all together and mounted up connect to Live process failed.
Got error codes on network test Z: 8015 - 190D. Too bad got banned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
Was strange though because was not connected to Live since the banning started.
Well guess iam one of the unlucky ones.
Thanx for helping me flashing it and good luck to the other ones.
Post by: Digital_sin on June 02, 2007, 05:56:00 AM
QUOTE
remove by soso
First of all, c4eva says right there in the readme file that YOU SHOULD USE ON LIVE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Second of all; instead of blaming and pointing fingers and "laughing your ass off" maybe you should develop a firmware for free on your own dime and time and release it too, so people who don't know how to use it can then call you a backstabber who sold them out to M$ for money when they get banned.
Finally; as long as consoles exist; modders will too. And as long as modders exist; there will be people out there trying to catch/stop them. So unless c4eva can see into the future, nothing is a 100% future proof. all you should care about is that this firmware is working "right now". My advice to you, enjoy it while it lasts or STFU.
BTW: If Microsoft wanted to stop and ban modders from the beginning they could have (backups without any sort of stealth, I mean come on! they must have been very easy to spot). They only banned people after complete morons used these firmwares to cheat online. And I'm sure that if the cheating spreads even further, Microsoft will start cracking down on modders again. Let's hope for our sake that there isn't an exploitable hack in Halo 3 or I'm 100% sure that the banning will start again.
USE ON LIVE AT YOUR OWN RISK AND DO NOT FOR !#$#$ SAKE CHEAT!
This post has been edited by sosotiit: Jun 2 2007, 03:40 PM
Post by: xpt360 on June 02, 2007, 06:27:00 AM
Post by: caster420 on June 02, 2007, 07:20:00 AM
QUOTE(xpt360 @ Jun 2 2007, 08:03 AM)
Im getting an E66 error with ixtreme, i dont know why!! i used firmware tollbox to put the original key on the ixtreme 1.0, then i flashed the drive an then i got the E66 error!! i have an ms25 drive.
Was your firmware reporting as ms25 or ms28?
If it was reporting as ms28, do the following...
Open the iXtreme 1.0 firmware with 360 firmware toolbox again (the bin you already injected your key into) and spoof your firmware to ms25.
Or, you can take your orig.bin from your ms25, put it in the main directory of the iXtreme 1.0 firmware package and use the make firmware command. When prompted if you want to copy your version strings over to the ix10.bin, type 'Y'.
If it was reporting as ms25, do the reverse of what i have stated above.
Caster.
Post by: Devryn on June 02, 2007, 07:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Digital_sin @ Jun 2 2007, 01:46 AM)
make sure the 0800 disk is burned to a dual layer dvd, single layer dvds are no longer supported.
That's probably it. Thanks bro.
Post by: shadowth on June 02, 2007, 08:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jun 1 2007, 10:54 PM)
Well, i discussed it with c4e, and he double checked the public release and the fix for originals is definitly present. Likely the issue at hand is your previous firmware read originals at a slower speed (5.2D right?) and the new firmware is hardcoded at 12x. This could present a problem with worn-down lasers.
Yeah, that makes sense! As soon as I revert to the original I'll see if still goes on!
Thanks for the help! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: jamie123 on June 02, 2007, 08:06:00 AM
and had a previous version of xtreme firmware on your drive, did you get banned from live when you started up your xbox after updating to ixtreme?
Post by: xpt360 on June 02, 2007, 08:17:00 AM
QUOTE
FOR ANYONE THAT HAS UPDATED:
and had a previous version of xtreme firmware on your drive, did you get banned from live when you started up your xbox after updating to ixtreme?
and had a previous version of xtreme firmware on your drive, did you get banned from live when you started up your xbox after updating to ixtreme?
I just got online and everything is ok.
This post has been edited by xpt360: Jun 2 2007, 03:20 PM
Post by: Devryn on June 02, 2007, 08:49:00 AM
QUOTE(jamie123 @ Jun 2 2007, 10:42 AM)
FOR ANYONE THAT HAS UPDATED:
and had a previous version of xtreme firmware on your drive, did you get banned from live when you started up your xbox after updating to ixtreme?
I hadn't gotten on LIVE since the spring update was released. I don't even think I played my XBox. I updated to iXtreme yesterday and tested live and I was banned. No spring update. Whatever MS is doing to ban has NOTHING to do with the spring update.
Post by: bodybag on June 02, 2007, 08:54:00 AM
QUOTE(jamie123 @ Jun 2 2007, 03:42 PM)
FOR ANYONE THAT HAS UPDATED:
and had a previous version of xtreme firmware on your drive, did you get banned from live when you started up your xbox after updating to ixtreme?
I was at 5.2 then 5.3a now on ixtreme still on LIVE...
Post by: Kslmgd on June 02, 2007, 09:13:00 AM
EVERYONE NEEDS TO CHECK CONNECTION BEFORE UPDATING TO IXTREME TO SEE IF UR BANNED BEFORE UPGRADE (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
I'VE UPDATED MINE AND IT WORKED BEFORE AND AFTER
I'VE HAD ALL FIREWARES TO DATE ON MY XBOX360 AND DONE ALL LIVE UPDATES
I ALSO NEVER PLAYED NON-STEALTH BACKUP ON MY 360 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
XBC = 2.5
TS-H943 xbox360 drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
tILL aLIVE bABY
This post has been edited by Kslmgd: Jun 2 2007, 04:23 PM
Post by: svoskamp on June 02, 2007, 09:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jun 1 2007, 02:08 AM)
1st: the firmware is now replicating the original firmware in every way possible, which includes a hard coded 12x read speed. This is likely what causes the 'whining'.
Is it possible to change this back to slow read speed in like hex-edit. And if so what has to be changed to what?
Thanks
Post by: NookularDeath on June 02, 2007, 09:51:00 AM
QUOTE(svoskamp @ Jun 2 2007, 11:13 AM)
Is it possible to change this back to slow read speed in like hex-edit. And if so what has to be changed to what?
Thanks
just turn up your stereo's volume.. so you get a little whirling from the 12X speed... big deal..
maybe when the next generation 360 comes out, they will just put games on USB 8GB sized
keys... then no more moving parts..
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
Post by: hordak on June 02, 2007, 09:52:00 AM
QUOTE(svoskamp @ Jun 2 2007, 05:13 PM)
Is it possible to change this back to slow read speed in like hex-edit. And if so what has to be changed to what?
Thanks
But that would make using iXtreme pointless. MS might detect that your drive isn't reading at the correct speed.
Post by: TheAntipop on June 02, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
I'm happy to report that I have successfully flashed iXtreme and am still not banned on Live! Woot! I realize of course that this could change at any minute (as anyone getting going into modding in the first place should).
Anyway, I had a question about game updates. Is there a risk when installing game updates for backed up games when prompted on bootup? I know that iXtreme will only boot stealth patched backups, but I'm wondering if MS could somehow install a game update that will be able to detect backups (even stealth patched), and ban you. If this is possible, would original XBox games be more or less likely to be detected?
I ask this because I popped in Ninja Gaiden (a dual-layer XBOX1 backup) and I got the game update message. I certainly don't want to risk being banned just to be able to play this game, but if it is probably harmless I'll do it. Advice?
Post by: sosotiit on June 02, 2007, 10:46:00 AM
The reports should be done in Banned/not Banned Console Reporting,inc. iXtreme1.0, ALL REPORTS ON BANNED/NOT BANNED HERE
also note for flashing question How To Update To iXtreme: Tutorial, Xtreme Boot maker / Via card method.
Just like it is not the place for another stupid and futile debate on which console is best. This thread is iXtreme firmware (period). I am not aginst it, but not in this forum.
thks, soso
Post by: sosotiit on June 02, 2007, 10:58:00 AM
QUOTE(svoskamp @ Jun 2 2007, 01:24 PM)
i would take my chance.
does not exist and doubt it will.
sorry
-soso
Post by: sosotiit on June 02, 2007, 11:34:00 AM
-soso
Post by: pr0ph3t- on June 02, 2007, 03:36:00 PM
QUOTE(steph3n @ Jun 2 2007, 11:52 PM)
I have a question about the E64 Error
Today I flashed my ms28 with the iXtreme 1.0A... unfortunately i did not notice the possibility of the E64 error and I'm afraid it logged firmware change?
I haven't been on Live yet, and I did use the xbox360 power while flashing. But "not use your XBOX360 to power your drive while the sata cable is disconnected from your MB"
my xbox was on only while the sata cable was connected from my ms28 to my PC's motherboard, does that mean i am not affected by the E64 error?
Thanks
it is probably logged, as when you have your sata cable disconnected from your xbox's MB and you power your xbox on, it will generate the E64 error and quite possibly log it, however I've flashed it countless times using my own xbox and the sata cable from my dvd drive to my pc mobo, and also with the iXtreme fw, and as of now I am still going strong and unbanned
.
Post by: Montana47 on June 02, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: hordak on June 02, 2007, 04:16:00 PM
Post by: xnoelahg on June 02, 2007, 04:38:00 PM
QUOTE(hordak @ Jun 2 2007, 11:52 PM)
garyOPA said its ok to use 360 power, it doesnt log it.
I remember when the bannings first happened, I thought it was a nice theory, but afterwards, I figured it was probably a bit impractical, as I'm sure there's plenty of consoles they've had to service without anything hooked up for certain debugging purposes at one point or another, and would leave a nice hole for inaccuracies (especially as hardware gets older, there's a chance the DVD-ROM wouldn't detect on a boot, but power cycling could get it to detect on the next bootup, etc).
It's still better safe than sorry, but I think it's unlikely they log this...at least for banning purposes.
Post by: jamiem2787 on June 02, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
thanks to anyone who clears this up for me, its hard viewing the forums on a pda screen lol
Post by: Iriez on June 02, 2007, 11:34:00 PM
QUOTE(irnchriz @ Jun 2 2007, 03:57 AM)
So, for this firmware to have been created they must know EXACTLY what information Microsoft used to ban consoles from LIVE.
Yet no where has anyone published anything more than mere theories.
Without definitley knowing what microsoft used then anyonce can claim that their new improved firmware prevents banning. Remember the last *Stealth* patch just before the spring update. My mate was banned and that was the one and only firmware mod he had put on his box.
Ultimately until this has been in the wild for a period of months and until it survives another microsoft update there is no way that anyone can claim that this protects against banning.
Good luck to all of the *Beta* testers, I would laugh my ass off at you all if you all got banned tomorrow.
Well, apparently you have not been watching the news?
xbox-scene front page news on banning details
and
FuzzyLogic logs atapi commands on xboxhacker.net
Yes, we are claiming it protects against banning. It does EXACTLY that. Will it always? Well, we sure could hope so....but i very much doubt it. However, the holes are *very* well patched, and MS is going to have to invest ALOT of time/labor into detecting current xtreme firmwares.
Post by: Digital_sin on June 03, 2007, 03:46:00 AM
do i just connect to live with my 5.3C without a backup in the drive? Or if i'm not banned yet this will get me banned? BTW, i never updated to the spring update, so what if it does ask me to update?
I've never used my 360 (backups or originals) for months, I only turned it on once after Dashboard revision 2.0.4552 was released in January to update my 360 and messed around with it for a while.
Post by: sosotiit on June 03, 2007, 07:11:00 AM
QUOTE
posts removed, stop asking when hitachi will be out (for a 100th time), just read the info is there.
If you do not feel like reading the last few pages to find your info, dont bother posting
.If you do not feel like reading the last few pages to find your info, dont bother posting
-soso
Post by: nhoj_yelbom on June 03, 2007, 09:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Zod5000 @ May 29 2007, 10:16 PM)
Hmm so what are the odds of finding a core with a toshiba-samsung dvd drive in it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
QUOTE(sukilih @ May 30 2007, 03:43 PM)
I just bought a new premium, not a core i know, but it was a toshiba drive, manufacturing date of 08/2006.
i bought 2 cores after ban hammer new at wal-mart.
1. MS-28
2. 0078FK, Burnt up within two hours exchanged for another that had
3. MS-28
This post has been edited by nhoj_yelbom: Jun 3 2007, 04:42 PM
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on June 03, 2007, 10:13:00 AM
Post by: tmoneyman on June 03, 2007, 05:55:00 PM
Post by: calibre6 on June 03, 2007, 07:14:00 PM
QUOTE(tmoneyman @ Jun 4 2007, 09:55 AM)
I know its a noob question, but xbox 1 games that are not stealth won't load with the new firmware, correct?
It is a noob question as this information is stated in the first post.
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
Post by: (>Stormy<) on June 03, 2007, 11:02:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on June 03, 2007, 11:00:00 PM
QUOTE((>Stormy<) @ Jun 4 2007, 12:02 AM)
Just tried mine. MS28 flashed in Feb. with 5.2b I believe. Had 3 non-stealthed games. Hadn't played console since April probably. Only went online with GOW retail and COD3 backup but system was always connected. Just flashed and went online = insta-ban, no good bye hugs. Fun times.
As explained, regardless of whether you utilize the matchmaking services of the game/live, if you are connected to live while playing a non-stealth disc, the dmi/pfi inquiries are still present, and sent forth to live.
Post by: (>Stormy<) on June 04, 2007, 02:30:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jun 4 2007, 06:36 AM)
As explained, regardless of whether you utilize the matchmaking services of the game/live, if you are connected to live while playing a non-stealth disc, the dmi/pfi inquiries are still present, and sent forth to live.
Yup. Hopefully core systems will drop in price by November.
Post by: Digital_sin on June 04, 2007, 03:12:00 AM
QUOTE(Digital_sin @ Jun 3 2007, 11:22 AM)
guys, how do i know if i'm banned or not before flashing my dvd drive with iXtreme?
do i just connect to live with my 5.3C without a backup in the drive? Or if i'm not banned yet this will get me banned? BTW, i never updated to the spring update, so what if it does ask me to update?
I've never used my 360 (backups or originals) for months, I only turned it on once after Dashboard revision 2.0.4552 was released in January to update my 360 and messed around with it for a while.
Alright, i tried to connect to xbox live today to check if i'm banned or not before updating to iXtreme, It asked me to update (spring update). I didn't accept the update and ran a network test it asked me to update again but i refused again and my Z code status was 8015 - 1007
Does this mean that i'm banned/will be banned? If it asked me to update that means i'm safe right?
Post by: pr0ph3t- on June 04, 2007, 05:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Digital_sin @ Jun 4 2007, 11:48 AM)
Alright, i tried to connect to xbox live today to check if i'm banned or not before updating to iXtreme, It asked me to update (spring update). I didn't accept the update and ran a network test it asked me to update again but i refused again and my Z code status was 8015 - 1007
Does this mean that i'm banned/will be banned? If it asked me to update that means i'm safe right?
should've accepted it, 8015 = banned afaik. if not just accept the update, people that didnt update got banned aswell so.
This post has been edited by pr0ph3t-: Jun 4 2007, 12:26 PM
Post by: Digital_sin on June 04, 2007, 05:48:00 AM
QUOTE(pr0ph3t- @ Jun 4 2007, 12:25 PM)
should've accepted it, 8015 = banned afaik. if not just accept the update, people that didnt update got banned aswell so.
http://www.360mods.n...pic/t=2887.html
QUOTE
CONCLUSIONS:
Z: 0000-0000 = No Errors (debugging field)
Z: 8015 = failed connection, Reason: 190D = Banned, 1904 = No DNS, 1007 = Update Required
i guess yay!
Post by: phillyboyroy on June 05, 2007, 11:04:00 AM
I really don't want to be one of those posters that everybody screams at to "SEARCH!" but here goes...I put the iXtreme 1.0 firmware on my Samsung MS28 and reluctantly logged onto Live expecting to be banned. So far, nada...still good. Here's my question though. I went through the backups I made (all ripped from my Kreon drive with Xbox Backup Creator and burned with CloneCD) with XDVDMulleter Beta 8 in an attempt to make sure that they are all stealthed properly. They all are except my backup of MLB 2K7. Under the "Xtreme Compatibility" section, "PFI present" and "DMI Present" are UNchecked ("Security sector present" IS checked). And in the "ISO Type" section "Xtreme Compatible" is UNchecked. So, the obvious question here is why does this backup of MLB 2K7 play perfectly in my box (it does) when the iXtreme 1.0 firmware is supposed to reject any backup that is not properly stealthed?
Post by: malbowsier on June 05, 2007, 11:10:00 AM
Might be the answer.
dunno #
just a guess.
Post by: tmoneyman on June 05, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
Post by: ReqMan on June 05, 2007, 07:30:00 PM
I have never played my backups while being connected to Live (I disconnect the network cable). Nor do I have any intention of ever playing my backups online (I only use my originals when I want to play online).
So do I even need to bother with the new firmwares? I havent logged into Live since the bans started, so I'm wondering am I safe, or do I still need the new stealth firmware to play backups offline? (or is it too late for me already?)
Thanks
Post by: kamil212 on June 05, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
I'm behind on the new stuff so please help me out (I don't want to waste hours reading this entire forum and the tutorials seem outdated) Thanks.
My 360 with a flashed Hitachi broke (3 red lights, broke it for sure when attempting x-clamp fix) and I just got a core 360 with a TS-ms28. Haven't done any of this in over a year so I'm a bit rusty.
What do I do once I hook up the drive to my PC? (I have iXtreme1 and KDX1.5 but what do I do with it?)
again, thanks for any help
-Kamil
Post by: r1cardo on June 05, 2007, 10:29:00 PM
tks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: sanjob on June 06, 2007, 01:32:00 AM
Sanjob
Post by: MODSTERINC on June 06, 2007, 08:06:00 AM
QUOTE((>Stormy<) @ Jun 4 2007, 04:30 AM)
Yup. Hopefully core systems will drop in price by November.
donot xpect price drops until q1 09
Post by: Schnick1 on June 06, 2007, 03:05:00 PM
QUOTE(kamil212 @ Jun 5 2007, 10:34 PM)
Hi,
I'm behind on the new stuff so please help me out (I don't want to waste hours reading this entire forum and the tutorials seem outdated) Thanks.
My 360 with a flashed Hitachi broke (3 red lights, broke it for sure when attempting x-clamp fix) and I just got a core 360 with a TS-ms28. Haven't done any of this in over a year so I'm a bit rusty.
What do I do once I hook up the drive to my PC? (I have iXtreme1 and KDX1.5 but what do I do with it?)
again, thanks for any help
-Kamil
Those seemingly outdated tutorials that you mention will be just fine as nothing has changed with regards to flashing your drive.
***Un-banned and waiting for iXtreme v1.1
***
Post by: Iriez on June 06, 2007, 03:18:00 PM
QUOTE(phillyboyroy @ Jun 5 2007, 12:04 PM)
I posted this question on the XDVDMulleter thread but didn't get much response. I'll try it here in the hopes that more people are reading this and have maybe experienced this too.
I really don't want to be one of those posters that everybody screams at to "SEARCH!" but here goes...I put the iXtreme 1.0 firmware on my Samsung MS28 and reluctantly logged onto Live expecting to be banned. So far, nada...still good. Here's my question though. I went through the backups I made (all ripped from my Kreon drive with Xbox Backup Creator and burned with CloneCD) with XDVDMulleter Beta 8 in an attempt to make sure that they are all stealthed properly. They all are except my backup of MLB 2K7. Under the "Xtreme Compatibility" section, "PFI present" and "DMI Present" are UNchecked ("Security sector present" IS checked). And in the "ISO Type" section "Xtreme Compatible" is UNchecked. So, the obvious question here is why does this backup of MLB 2K7 play perfectly in my box (it does) when the iXtreme 1.0 firmware is supposed to reject any backup that is not properly stealthed?
I would actually contact badsheepy regarding the issue. Perhaps it is a bug within mulleter. We have tested many many bad disc's (created for the purpose of testing) and 'other' versions to ensure everything is working/not working as neccessary.
Rest assured, if ixtreme boots it, then it has the correct corresponding DMI/PFI/SS (extra pfi/video checks to come in version 1.1 in the next day if no more bugs found)
Post by: NorthernLightsX on June 06, 2007, 10:06:00 PM
NorthernLightsX
Post by: ewok666 on June 06, 2007, 11:16:00 PM
QUOTE(NorthernLightsX @ Jun 7 2007, 05:42 AM)
can it not also be that those who are not banned yet, me included, will be banned with microsoft's next banning round and that thi fw doesn't do anything? Of course we can now play back-ups while you are signed in to Live, but is that because of the new Ixtreme fw, or just because we are not banned yet?
NorthernLightsX
Could be....could also be that no one knows for sure and asking this is a useless exercise and a waste of everyone's time and bandwidth.
However, feel free to ask M$ for an official, detailed technical document on how they detect backup DVD's and, once they have given this to you, someone will surely be willing to look into this for you.
Cheers
Post by: Roden on June 07, 2007, 02:09:00 AM
Post by: sosotiit on June 07, 2007, 06:52:00 AM
should remove your post, but will not bother. Who knows, we can speculate until the end of time.
That is the best we have at this point, there is no guarantee, it is the risk one is taking in this new era of ban.
Dont you think that if someone knew otherwise, then action would be taken!!!
That type of general discussion should be in
QUOTE
--------- in X360 GENERAL-------------
**All general discussion, news, theories and announcements
I Been Banned? SPRING 2007, ALL GENERAL DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD
as per pinned**All general discussion, news, theories and announcements
I Been Banned? SPRING 2007, ALL GENERAL DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD
The Spring 2007 Ban Thread, !!!Do not post!!!on this without reading FIRST
-soso
Post by: timewaster on June 07, 2007, 06:59:00 AM
That means loading up backups will be just as noisy as the originals with extreme firmware?
Post by: sosotiit on June 07, 2007, 07:03:00 AM
-soso
Post by: dmanjohn on June 07, 2007, 12:41:00 PM
QUOTE(sosotiit @ Jun 7 2007, 09:39 AM)
exactly, no more 4x reading and no more game ripping!! with iXtreme so you need a Kreon.
-soso
What about the hotswapping method?
Post by: sosotiit on June 07, 2007, 12:59:00 PM
-soso
This post has been edited by sosotiit: Jun 7 2007, 08:07 PM
Post by: Roden on June 07, 2007, 01:57:00 PM
Sad to say my first machine was banned, flashed out of the box with maximus 2.3, not played online in ages, but did load up stuff while signed in.
Found a couple of bad stealth discs, so i am asuming thats my banning reason.
So kreon only from now on.
One thing i would like to know 100% for sure now i have the second box, has anybody who has ONLY played originals online, and their backups offline been banned as of yet?.
I heard somebody mention in another thread, they never played online, but were banned when they plugged in the console at their mates to get an update.
Hmmm
Post by: sosotiit on June 07, 2007, 02:30:00 PM
As far a single person reporting this or that, you have to be careful that since we do not know the history of the console before, there are not much to be concluded.
I havent heard so far of a solid case of a console that started with iXtreme (no other hacked FW before), always played offline with fully stealth backup (made by that person with a Kreon and XBCr/Schtrom)even while connected to live, and where all play on live was done with original, and that such situation resulted in a ban. Note that it is no guarantee, it may just come later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .
In fact it seems that if you had a samsung always up to date on fw (even prior to iXtreme), always played offline with fully stealth backup (made by that person with a Kreon and XBCr/Schtrom)even while connected to live, and where all play on live was done with original, then it seems that your odds were pretty good from the direct feedback I received.
Just some feedback, it is no guarantee of waht awaits us. MS may totally chaged its strategy for the next round, who knows really??
-soso
This post has been edited by sosotiit: Jun 7 2007, 09:33 PM
Post by: Roden on June 07, 2007, 03:50:00 PM
Just wondered though, as its a new machine, i wanna play my original GOW online, good idea to do that before i flash?, or wait until i flash then sign in. Although i will be recovering an old tag from the banned box.
Thhinking about it i may make a brand new tag, dont like the idea of it.
Post by: xmikepwnsx on June 07, 2007, 05:11:00 PM
originals that worked a day or so ago, now are coming up with put this disk into a 360. while backups are just saying "open tray."
i'm lost on what to do.
should i just get off of live and reflash back to 5.3?
Post by: flash360 on June 07, 2007, 05:04:00 PM
QUOTE(xmikepwnsx @ Jun 8 2007, 12:11 AM)
alright so, i just flashed my ms25 the other day with ixtreme, (i'm not banned). was having some trouble with some of my games, then today, nothing i've tried has worked.
originals that worked a day or so ago, now are coming up with put this disk into a 360. while backups are just saying "open tray."
i'm lost on what to do.
should i just get off of live and reflash back to 5.3?
Sounds like the pot needs tweakin to me. I dont think it will make any difference flashin back to 53. Was you runnin at a slower drive speed with 53 was it a,b,c or d.
Post by: xmikepwnsx on June 07, 2007, 05:58:00 PM
i was thinking about that earlier, i've the got rubberband mod too. i think i really need a new laser, but idk.
i double checked the stealth on my backups, they're all good except a few early ones. and the originals, they should play no matter what.
my original pot reading was 3.78 and i tuned it to 3.24 and it was doing fine until i put on ixtreme.
it's been a while since i've played my 360. i did a lil bit after the spring update, but then i was gone for a month so i didn't play it because i heard of all the banning.
think i should tweak the pot again?
Post by: baghnah on June 07, 2007, 05:25:00 PM
you guys should try it out
Post by: xmikepwnsx on June 07, 2007, 06:04:00 PM
QUOTE(baghnah @ Jun 7 2007, 08:01 PM)
heres a firmware thats GUARANTEED no ban, orig.bin
you guys should try it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
el oh ellll d00d
Post by: cha0s_s0ldier on June 07, 2007, 08:22:00 PM
I downloaded iPrep and IXtreme 1.0, extracted the rar files then used the Make iXtreme firmware.cmd to create my firmware, but when I try to load the firmware in iPrep nothing happens, it still says Current Firmware: None Loaded.
This post has been edited by cha0s_s0ldier: Jun 8 2007, 03:23 AM
Post by: c0smic on June 08, 2007, 03:18:00 AM
QUOTE(cha0s_s0ldier @ Jun 8 2007, 04:22 AM)
I'm starting to get frustrated.
I downloaded iPrep and IXtreme 1.0, extracted the rar files then used the Make iXtreme firmware.cmd to create my firmware, but when I try to load the firmware in iPrep nothing happens, it still says Current Firmware: None Loaded.
Downloaded iPrep yesterday and flashed a Samsung drive (MS28) with iXtreme 1.0. The first time I also got None loaded while trying to load the fw. Downloaded the fw again. I read that they changed one bit in the fw. (Try to download a new one) Then I could read the fw with Iprep. Only extract the rar. Do NOT use the firmware.cmd to create the fw.
The spoofing als worked in Iprep. Spoofed a Samsung drive as an Hitachi 59DJ. You need you're orig.bin from your Hitachi though.
This is what I did to make it work
This was done with VIA VT6421 chipset!
When your bootable USB drive is ready.
1. Boot up your PC and boot from USB
2. Turn on your XBOX360 (connected with the SATA cable on tour PC, I turned it on while in menu to select the booting device)
3. Follow the onscreen instruction to dump or flash
4. BEFORE you select the port -> TURN OFF your XBOX
5. Select the PORT
6. WAIT 10 secs
7 Turn ON XBOX and it starts to dump/flash the DRIVE
8. Test
Hope that helps!
Post by: RuFf rYdA on June 08, 2007, 05:25:00 AM
from #FW
Post by: KLoNe on June 08, 2007, 05:48:00 AM
QUOTE(RuFf rYdA @ Jun 8 2007, 12:25 PM)
iXtreme v1.2 soon (v1.1 was superseded in light of extra stealth checks)
from #FW
How true is this?
Post by: sosotiit on June 08, 2007, 07:11:00 AM
-soso
Post by: gamekill on June 08, 2007, 07:24:00 AM
Anyone knows anything about 1.2 bringing back xbox1 games on single layer? I have made quite a lot of backups of original xbox games on single layer, all work perfect, and it would really be a drag (and consume $) to have to re-do all backups on double layer.
This is the sole reason I am still using 5.3 and have opted not to go Live for now...
Thanks!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
Post by: sosotiit on June 08, 2007, 07:28:00 AM
-soso
Post by: mickey797 on June 08, 2007, 01:24:00 PM
Question: I have never played on LIVE and don't intend to either. I have the free Silver account and all I really use it for is download Trailers, Demos, visiting Live Marketplace and keeping my Achievements Online.
I have the Samsung MS25 Drive that I flashed to the xtreme firmware a couple of months ago.
I have not been banned yet, but I'm assuming I will shortly.
Should I update to iextreme now? Or should I just wait till there is better backup support. (I've heard a lot of people complain they are not able to play their backups, even originals, and all backups need to be stealth-patched.
In the meantime I can easily keep my Ethernet Cable unplugged. Will that keep me unbanned?
Thanks.
Post by: telo{+} on June 08, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
QUOTE
Should I update to iextreme now? Or should I just wait till there is better backup support. (I've heard a lot of people complain they are not able to play their backups, even originals, and all backups need to be stealth-patched.
In the meantime I can easily keep my Ethernet Cable unplugged. Will that keep me unbanned?
In the meantime I can easily keep my Ethernet Cable unplugged. Will that keep me unbanned?
The backups in iX work the same as 5.3. End Of Story.
The only difference is that MAYBE your backups are spinning faster now and thus don't read as well. The obvious fix is to use better media and a slow burn speed.
Most people are not having a single problem with discs.
I would not trust the cable being unplugged at all. There is no guarantee. Just update to iX, get rid of your non-stealth discs, and don't worry about it.
Post by: baberg on June 08, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
QUOTE(mickey797 @ Jun 8 2007, 03:24 PM)
Should I update to iextreme now? Or should I just wait till there is better backup support. (I've heard a lot of people complain they are not able to play their backups, even originals, and all backups need to be stealth-patched.
I wouldn't count on "better" backup support. If anything, the new firmware is moving towards a tighter approach towards letting backups boot. No single-layer media, no un-stealthed backups, the image break must be at the right spot, etc. etc. etc. Everything coming from C4E seems to be geared towards, in routing terms, "default deny". Your backup has to prove to C4E that it's good before it will boot up.
I've never heard of anybody being unable to use their originals or their properly-made backups with iXtreme. Where do you see this?
Post by: mickey797 on June 08, 2007, 01:50:00 PM
QUOTE(baberg @ Jun 8 2007, 08:45 PM)
I've never heard of anybody being unable to use their originals or their properly-made backups with iXtreme. Where do you see this?
May have been mistaken about this, as I was about "better backup support coming".
Both yours & telo's post strongly assert that I should flash to iextreme1.1 .... I think I'm going to.
I used a "textbook tutorial" to flash the very first time. Is there something similar out there for reflashing to the iextreme fw?
EDIT: Found out the thread in the Newbie Chat forum.
Question: If I get Banned before upgrade - Can I still upgrade to iextreme 1.1 and connect to LIVE thereafter?
Thanks!
This post has been edited by mickey797: Jun 8 2007, 08:59 PM
Post by: stbennet on June 08, 2007, 02:26:00 PM
QUOTE(mickey797 @ Jun 8 2007, 03:50 PM)
May have been mistaken about this, as I was about "better backup support coming".
Both yours & telo's post strongly assert that I should flash to iextreme1.1 .... I think I'm going to.
I used a "textbook tutorial" to flash the very first time. Is there something similar out there for reflashing to the iextreme fw?
EDIT: Found out the thread in the Newbie Chat forum.
Question: If I get Banned before upgrade - Can I still upgrade to iextreme 1.1 and connect to LIVE thereafter?
Thanks!
Nope, once that console is banned you're screwed unless you get a new one.
Post by: flash360 on June 08, 2007, 05:10:00 PM
If you not dared see if you are banned yet try connecting to live with either no disc or an original in the drive. Its safe. If you are not banned whoopie upgrade to Iextreme, if you are banned there is no point. hope this is clear.
Post by: pinoiplayah on June 12, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
Post by: NeverLegal on June 02, 2008, 10:51:00 AM
QUOTE(mas10 @ May 31 2007, 03:09 AM)
[/b]Hi friends, I have a ms25 thats been spoofed to ms28. Now everytime i boot into bios and type mtkflash r /m /sata ix10.bin(ixtreme fw) Then it says: 1)ICH5 SEC MASTER
2) ICH5 SEC SLAVE
i then pick option1 then it always comes up with that error.... (Port :C800, master/slave:b0
Anyone can help me please????
Please someone must know!!!
I was searching everywhere and couldn't find any answers so I decided to post a reply to a question similar to mine. I've read the tutorial on the bad flash and how to fix it. It hasn't worked. The error I'm getting while trying to flash is
Port: c800, Master/Slave:a0
I'm not sure if there's a difference btwn my "a0" and the above post with "b0" ... I've tried the turn off turn on xbox trick with different times and none have worked as of yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated and I apologize if this has already been answered in another topic.
NL
Post by: HotKnife420 on June 02, 2008, 11:10:00 AM
QUOTE(NeverLegal @ Jun 2 2008, 06:27 PM)
I was searching everywhere and couldn't find any answers so I decided to post a reply to a question similar to mine. I've read the tutorial on the bad flash and how to fix it. It hasn't worked. The error I'm getting while trying to flash is
Port: c800, Master/Slave:a0
I'm not sure if there's a difference btwn my "a0" and the above post with "b0" ... I've tried the turn off turn on xbox trick with different times and none have worked as of yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated and I apologize if this has already been answered in another topic.
NL
Get a VIA card.
QUOTE(pinoiplayah @ Jun 13 2007, 01:55 AM)
sorry if this has already been answered but i was wondering when you update with 1.0 what happens to the game types that aren't supported? (for example unstealthed xbox360 games) does your game just not get recognized? or does it result in a ban when u connect to live when booting up one of these discs? thanks in advance... and sorry if it has been already asked.
If a game is missing PFI/DMI/SS, then it will not boot. If a game has bad PFI/DMI/SS data, it may still boot, but ban your machine. Always make sure you made your backup properly before booting it.
Post by: NeverLegal on June 03, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
Post by: scuba156 on June 03, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
QUOTE(NeverLegal @ Jun 4 2008, 03:44 AM)
When I first flashed my drive my pc read it and did the whole 4 banks thing without having to power on and off my 360. I have a samsung ms25 and when I first flashed it I don't believe I spoofed it as an ms28. Do I still need to get the VIA card if my pc read the drive previously?
yes you do. all hacked samsung firmware is based off ms28 firmware, so you ned a VIA to do the 10 second trick to disable firmguard
Post by: NeverLegal on July 21, 2008, 07:36:00 PM
Post by: NeverLegal on July 22, 2008, 11:21:00 AM
As stated above I have it set up VIA and I do the ten second trick and so all flashing seems to go ok. I get the "Please reboot your pc!" message and all banks are fine. However, every time I insert an original game, I get the "To play this disc" error and when I insert a backup I get "unplayable disc" error. Any help? I'm gonna try a couple different firmwares to see if it'll be fixed but I've already replaced the lens because the original lens stopped working. Any help? Any more info needed?