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Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Xbox-Scene on March 17, 2007, 09:22:00 PM
Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Posted by XanTium | March 17 21:46 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From xenotopgear.com:
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We are happy to announce that the first batch of XENO TOP GEAR shipments went smoothly. Just a reminder, each XENO TOP GEAR ships with a detailed instructions set as well as the COMPLETE OPENING TOOL, absolutely free.

We would also like to take this opportunity to respond to some of our competitor's claims:
a) THE XENO TOP GEAR is 100% reliable on Flashing Firmware and Dumping game data to the PC. Tested in our vigorous QC process.
b) No additional Separate Power Input needed, reducing the weight of shipment to retailers and end users alike reducing shipping cost
c) DELUXE Xbox 360 unlocking kit included ABSOLUTLEY FREE
d) Conservative installation approach reducing risk of short circuiting unit (responsible way to show users the safest path to install)
e) LED function for future versions (coming soon)
f) High quality build (Proud to be made in China - unlike others who ARE made in China and lie about it) - we have a bullet proof QC process and our factory manufacture for various major Japanese / US brands
g) Vigorous months of QC and testing and ensure our high quality product.
h) ORIGINAL Design. We have our unique approach to the application. Supporting the anti-competition claims means supporting a MONOPLOY in the Xbox 360 scene and is encouraging the competition to be GREEDY, Charging more $$$ and ripping off customers.
i) Huge Community support for our young team.

Official Site: www.xenotopgear.com
Buy Now ($45): Divineo.com | ModchipStore.com | Divineo.cn

Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: xbox modder 222 on March 17, 2007, 08:10:00 PM
go XENO for not allowing a monopoly!!!!!! and for bringing us consumer a cheaper alternative! biggrin.gif  jester.gif
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: gerzand on March 17, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
yeah i agree team xecuter has really been ripping consumers off on all their products since the 360 came out.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Lice_01 on March 17, 2007, 08:30:00 PM
QUOTE
h) ORIGINAL Design. We have our unique approach to the application. Supporting the anti-competition claims means supporting a MONOPLOY in the Xbox 360 scene and is encouraging the competition to be GREEDY, Charging more $$$ and ripping off customers


umm, original design my ass  blink.gif
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: mlapaglia on March 17, 2007, 09:32:00 PM
^ damnit you ruined the movie for me.. thanks a lot  tongue.gif
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: jeff10 on March 17, 2007, 09:37:00 PM
yeah but at the end the spartans are 10,000 strong and fighting good odds for a spartan, 3 to 1

so are you saying that the xeno as being spartans are going to sell less such as 10,00 and kick xecuters ass although they sell 30,000


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QUOTE(Lice_01 @ Mar 17 2007, 09:37 PM) View Post

umm, original design my ass  blink.gif

Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: mcatrage on March 17, 2007, 10:30:00 PM
QUOTE
(Proud to be made in China - unlike others who ARE made in China and lie about it)


Fighting words
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: gregeshleman on March 17, 2007, 10:38:00 PM
Great job guys!
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Charbless on March 17, 2007, 10:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Lice_01 @ Mar 18 2007, 04:37 AM) View Post

umm, original design my ass  blink.gif


How do you know they didn't design this before team-xecutor?

I like Xeno attitude they seem to conduct themselfs like average Joe not like team-xecutor thinking they are above everyone else.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Lice_01 on March 17, 2007, 11:02:00 PM
QUOTE(Charbless @ Mar 18 2007, 12:50 AM) View Post

How do you know they didn't design this before team-xecutor?


you gotta be kidding me, The Blaster 360 was announced back on September 15, 2006 as seen Here The Xeno Top Gear on the other hand on March 7th, 2007 as seen Here. No offence, But Xeno obviously ripped off the design. The internal hardware might not be the same (as the Xeno probably uses a switch) But they did rip the design off Team Xecuter. At least IMO I feel so. Personally I will not buy either but you gotta admit Xeno ripped the idea.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Modiller on March 18, 2007, 02:08:00 AM
hehe...

Why imply Xecuter products are made in China ?

You know they aren't.

Why lie ?
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 18, 2007, 02:37:00 AM
If their QC is anything like their attention to detail ('MONOPLOY' ???), I can't say I hold much hope for them.

I agree with toxickiwi - removing the metal shielding is not a good idea. To call it an original design is an insult - so it just happens to LOOK like the Blaster 360? Oh, my mistake - I suppose this happens all the time (/sarcasm). Just be honest and say you ripped the idea from TX - a lot of people don't care and would rather see you up front about the whole thing.

I'd be really interested to hear how this performs once installed!!

Martin
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Ravo5002 on March 18, 2007, 06:09:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Mar 18 2007, 09:44 AM) View Post

If their QC is anything like their attention to detail ('MONOPLOY' ???), I can't say I hold much hope for them.

I agree with toxickiwi - removing the metal shielding is not a good idea. To call it an original design is an insult - so it just happens to LOOK like the Blaster 360? Oh, my mistake - I suppose this happens all the time (/sarcasm). Just be honest and say you ripped the idea from TX - a lot of people don't care and would rather see you up front about the whole thing.

I'd be really interested to hear how this performs once installed!!

Martin


lol, if the only thing tx can throw dirt at is their spelling then thats just pathetic... why not comment on the fact that they accuse you (tx) of lieing about where the products are build etc tongue.gif

Personally i think youre just pissed. They brought out a product which is superior to yours (functionality wise, cant say anything about the build quality). About cutting the rf cage, its only gonna be cut a small part, not enough to fuck up any electric machines which were produced after 1985...

The original design? Yes it has all the looks of it that they ripped yours... I know the world of bussines is hard though, and that you also could have snooped the design of them, and then went public over it earlier then them biggrin.gif (not probable though).

I think that with equal quality price will be what the winning factor will be.

-Ravo
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: bucko on March 18, 2007, 08:29:00 AM
I wont be spending my money on a clone simple as. This is a blatant clone, it reminds me of when people made clone mod chips for Xbox 1. Shame really. I would much rather spend my £40 on a well known brand such as Xecuter, at least they offer decent support and have a strong community.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: EntwinedWithSickness on March 18, 2007, 09:42:00 AM
QUOTE(Ravo5002 @ Mar 18 2007, 07:16 AM) View Post

lol, if the only thing tx can throw dirt at is their spelling then thats just pathetic... why not comment on the fact that they accuse you (tx) of lieing about where the products are build etc tongue.gif


Taiwan = China? Last I checked no.

QUOTE
Personally i think youre just pissed. They brought out a product which is superior to yours (functionality wise, cant say anything about the build quality). About cutting the rf cage, its only gonna be cut a small part, not enough to fuck up any electric machines which were produced after 1985...


How are you qualified to say this?  Do you have any type of degree?  Just curious.  Oh and where are the increased functions that make the Xeno Top Gear superior to the Blaster?  Again, just curious.

QUOTE
The original design? Yes it has all the looks of it that they ripped yours... I know the world of bussines is hard though, and that you also could have snooped the design of them, and then went public over it earlier then them biggrin.gif (not probable though).


Are you for real?  Honestly.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Ravo5002 on March 18, 2007, 09:43:00 AM
QUOTE(bucko @ Mar 18 2007, 03:36 PM) View Post

I wont be spending my money on a clone simple as. This is a blatant clone, it reminds me of when people made clone mod chips for Xbox 1. Shame really. I would much rather spend my £40 on a well known brand such as Xecuter, at least they offer decent support and have a strong community.


the difference with the xbox clone modchips was that they were of low quality, compared to the original. Here we dont know anything about that yet biggrin.gif. You sound a bit tx fanboyish 2 me

About you spending $$ on a clone or not, you wont buy any of these tongue.gif since you dont have a 360 (atleast thats what i see you screaming in every thread)...
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: GeToChKn on March 18, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
Someone will have to do a review of them side by side and see which one is really better.  If the Xeno is cheaper and works the same, people like cheaper, clone or not.  And if tx hadn't announced their product 6 months before it was ready to goto market (it's still not shipping yet it is??) and gave other people something to clone off and kept it secret, maybe this wouldn't have happened and they would have a huge lead in selling these.  But they kept saying, almost done, almost done, almost done and someone else came along and said DONE.  It sucks but it's business.  Not like these things are really needed for flashing much anymore.  Maybe for ripping games it handy, or down the road with bigger harddrives and hacked consoles, they could be used for dumping games to the hd but for now, tx needed this 6 months ago when firmware flashes were all the plenty.  Hell, I'm still running like 3.1 or something on my sammy.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Software2 on March 18, 2007, 10:47:00 AM
My god, both of these companies suck. They both try to take things that suck about their products and spin them as good. They both take turns ripping on each other. They're both overpriced.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Ravo5002 on March 18, 2007, 11:49:00 AM
QUOTE(EntwinedWithSickness @ Mar 18 2007, 04:49 PM) View Post

Taiwan = China? Last I checked no.

exactly, thats y they should reply on these accusations
QUOTE(EntwinedWithSickness @ Mar 18 2007, 04:49 PM) View Post

How are you qualified to say this?  Do you have any type of degree?  Just curious.  Oh and where are the increased functions that make the Xeno Top Gear superior to the Blaster?  Again, just curious.

If you are to lazy to lookup the functions... ill tell you that the xeno includes hdd transfer tongue.gif About my degree, i do have one smile.gif not in the area what would make me qualified to say something about this from a professional standpoint. Why i said it though is because i have modded my xbox in a clear cage without any rf shielding, so i can see the nice electronics, its standing right in the cabinet under my tv, for years already, and never had problems. So thats y i think cutting out a small piece will not do any harm...
QUOTE(EntwinedWithSickness @ Mar 18 2007, 04:49 PM) View Post

Are you for real?  Honestly.

obviously you didnt read the "not probable thoug" line...

so, next time do a little more reading.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: Poida^ on March 18, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
QUOTE(bigsofty @ Mar 19 2007, 08:59 AM) View Post

Dude! Have you been on the Xecuter forums lately, their forum admins are power mad trolls... there free to abuse ANYONE asking simple support questions... their famous for it!

Xeno TG... buy it, its cheaper and it works... and get support WITHOUT grief!

I don't think you can accuse X admins of that.  Moderators don't do what they want for no reason, if people are not following rules or cannot do a simple search there will be many people assisting them not just admin people.
Other people do report bad behavior, its a community forum.

Many questions get asked and answered everyday and people always get great support.  It is a great support forum with lots of information for many people.

Top Gear is pretty much a rip off blaster and the only major thing people complain about is price for Blaster.

In conclusion, I have to say this battle of these products is stupid IMO.  
It would be nice to get an independent reviewer to compare both.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: dxj1973 on March 18, 2007, 06:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Poida^ @ Mar 18 2007, 05:37 PM) View Post

I don't think you can accuse X admins of that.  Moderators don't do what they want for no reason, if people are not following rules or cannot do a simple search there will be many people assisting them not just admin people.
Other people do report bad behavior, its a community forum.

Many questions get asked and answered everyday and people always get great support.  It is a great support forum with lots of information for many people.

Top Gear is pretty much a rip off blaster and the only major thing people complain about is price for Blaster.

In conclusion, I have to say this battle of these products is stupid IMO.  
It would be nice to get an independent reviewer to compare both.



if you look at the installs of each product, one can see that xeno has less parts.
doesnt this amount to less production costs? yes it does.
xeno may have very well watched tx throuout the build if these companies get products made in the same region. who knows how many more of these units we will see.

this is strait forward buisness people.

every major corporation copies products made by others in attempt to grasp a share of that market.

look at game controllers.

go into your favorite game store, look at the price of all the types of controllers there, and compare?

how many are cheaper than the original?

almost every one. and yet i hear no complaints.

blatant ripoffs? yes. complete ripoffs. once a review is done, you just may buy one of these "ripoffs" because it is a good piece of hardware, regardless of who is making it.

its not fair to xeno or xecuter that we/anyone take sides before a  true 3rd party comparison is made.

im sure when XanTium gets ahold of these products side by side, that is what will happen

a fair comparison.

until then, what does anyone of us really know?


Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: penguinswithhats on March 18, 2007, 09:14:00 PM
Not going to take the time to read all the replys, but i do have one thing to say about everyone saying they copied, who cares, it doesnt matter, you cant have a monoply its not fare to anyone and anyone that supports that is werid to say the least because your supporting prices going up. With this one out xeno has to do one thing and that is have good custumer service, so if sometihng goes wrong with a product, take a hit because in the end they would then get al the sales just cause they are cheaper. But if they dont then I would spend more money if im going to get someithng better.
Title: Xeno Top Gear: First Shipments Sent!
Post by: phrozenfeonix on March 19, 2007, 04:16:00 AM
Xantium do a review? Somehow I'm expecting HSDemonz to do it, in about 5-6 months. He often kicks products downstairs, runs them over, whatever, for a good 5 months before he decides to post a review. And about the functionality of the two, i'm typically a Tx fanboy, although xeno's Hdd support as well is kind of tempting. And as for quality, wait for a review or at least some nice hires pics side by side before you jump to any conclusions