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Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: Xbox-Scene on March 16, 2007, 10:47:00 PM
Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Posted by XanTium | March 16 23:40 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
We received some videos of the Xeno Top Gear in action - one video shows how you can flash your Xbox360 DVD-ROM firmware with the device, the other shows how you can use it to transfer Xbox360-HDD Data to your PC.




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Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: xGEISTx on March 16, 2007, 09:56:00 PM
Nice, this is the clear winner against the xecuter.  biggrin.gif  xeno, you have my support.
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: dxj1973 on March 16, 2007, 10:29:00 PM
did not realize the hd mounted to the unit when dumping.
neat but is it fragile?
is it easy to break the connector off the hd?
or brea the internal connector with a subtle twist?
and what about ripping?
i hear nothing about ripping from top gear?
xecuter is hyping up their ripping setup?
wazzup top gear?
any answers out there?
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: PerfectGun on March 16, 2007, 10:39:00 PM
First post and I hate to make it a rant but...

Is this another company trying to make a buck off the FW hack for the 360?  The easier these "companies" make it the more it's going to push MS to crush this hack and then we all lose.

I'm all over a free market, but I think one of the reason's MS hasn't already squashed this is because it's a relatively difficult hack for the everyday person to accomplish.

I hope I'm wrong, but every time I see crap like this I have to cringe..  What ever happened to keeping things "underground"? Welcome to the internet I guess...

I wonder why Microsoft's lawyers don't go after people like this... Maybe they will.  I hope so!  I'd rather see these people in jail and broke then have my FW disabled.

/puts on flame retardent suit


Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: ilovecrack on March 16, 2007, 10:41:00 PM
QUOTE(PerfectGun @ Mar 17 2007, 05:39 AM) View Post

First post and I hate to make it a rant but...

Is this another company trying to make a buck off the FW hack for the 360?  The easier these "companies" make it the more it's going to push MS to crush this hack and then we all lose.

I'm all over a free market, but I think one of the reason's MS hasn't already squashed this is because it's a relatively difficult hack for the everyday person to accomplish.

I hope I'm wrong, but every time I see crap like this I have to cringe..  What ever happened to keeping things "underground"? Welcome to the internet I guess...

I wonder why Microsoft's lawyers don't go after people like this... Maybe they will.  I hope so!  I'd rather see these people in jail and broke then have my FW disabled.

/puts on flame retardent suit


IPB Image  newbs.....

They are making it easier 4 u.  If u dont want it dont buy it.
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: poncinator on March 16, 2007, 11:31:00 PM
Legit.

Im goin Xeno.

I dont need fancy light around the edge like Xecuter's

Just as long as it works.

and as long as

IT DOES ALL WHAT I WANT IT TO DO NOT HAVE MORE THAN WHAT I WANT IT TO DO.

and this pretty much does everything i want to use it for.

=P

This post has been edited by poncinator: Mar 17 2007, 06:35 AM
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: jeff10 on March 16, 2007, 11:36:00 PM
damn, holy shit, I have been on the forums for years, everyday, I never read much about this.

I didnt know you could flas with it, Now i need another 360 I this, then i will be set.

looks sweet
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: Lice_01 on March 16, 2007, 11:40:00 PM
TBH, I think that these types of devices are only good for one thing. Thats Game ripping. Firmware updates are pretty rare now, So there is no use for that. I'm not so sure if the Xeno would work well for game ripping as Team Xecuter found glitches with this type of setup and I also doubt that the Xeno has gone though extensive testing such as the Blaster 360 has. Now on with Blaster 360, I believe that it is a better quality product when compared to the Xeno and probably works great at ripping games, But for $75, I would rather get a Samsung SH-D162c drive for less.
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: nomoreniu on March 17, 2007, 12:03:00 AM
Noob question.  What program did he use to flash the drive?  I like the simple GUI interface.
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: savadious on March 17, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
Now im torn.. I was so set on getting my  Blaster 360 - now this is out earlier....

How many who have been waiting for  Blaster 360 will get this NOW instead of waiting???

I need 2 Xbox360's too now... so I can have one of each tool...

Hurry people... buy these and write your reports NOW!!!
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: quarky42 on March 17, 2007, 12:11:00 AM
Hmm...I hate to think they ripped off Xecuter.  If these folks really did figure this all out by themselves and didn't make a fake-n-bake copy with a slight modification, then cool...   more power to them.

Xeno:
1. Cost:  Much Cheaper
2. Utility: Neat to include HDD transfer too
3. Quality:  I'm concerned...  it doesn't seem like the extra protection circuitry is there, but then again I haven't opened one up.

Xecuter:
1. Transparent development time:  Xecuter has said what they are going to do, took the time necessary to do it, and when their was problems with their original design they weren't afraid to push the date back to release a quality product.
2. Big name behind the product...  probably ties into the reasons behind #1...they aren't going to lose their name on something for lack of care.
3. That protection circuitry...  power and data protection...  

I don't like that they let the cost get so high though... Xecuter really should have done a much better job in project management and left out the LED light and switch... sure that isn't a huge cost, but it was just not needed.

I hope no one bricks their box with a Xeno... I hope the quality is there.   We'll see.  (well I won't...  but I'm sure some people here will be guinea pigs)
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: dmitri on March 17, 2007, 12:05:00 AM
It looks like this is only being pimped on X-S, they're the only site listed:
http://www.xenotopgear.com/media.html

I wonder how many penny's they're sharing with them to help undercut the Blaster.  blink.gif
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: PerfectGun on March 17, 2007, 01:30:00 AM
QUOTE(ilovecrack @ Mar 16 2007, 09:48 PM) View Post

IPB Image  newbs.....

They are making it easier 4 u.  If u dont want it dont buy it.


erm, I think that was the point of my post.  Making it easier means it's more widely used thus forcing Microsoft's hand.  I'm far from a newb to the whole "scene" I've been a quiet observer for years.  I mod my own stuff.  dry.gif
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: Spaceman2004 on March 17, 2007, 04:53:00 AM
Anyone who is getting one of these things, should get themselves something like this as well...

SATA Plate

That way you don't have to keep opening up your PC! I can't believe the pack doesn't come with a SATA plate, since the whole idea is that you don't have to keep opening stuff up!

Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: JAG_128 on March 17, 2007, 05:16:00 AM
QUOTE(Spaceman2004 @ Mar 17 2007, 12:00 PM) View Post

Anyone who is getting one of these things, should get themselves something like this as well...

SATA Plate

That way you don't have to keep opening up your PC! I can't believe the pack doesn't come with a SATA plate, since the whole idea is that you don't have to keep opening stuff up!


n1 SPACEMAN  THX  biggrin.gif
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: bigsofty on March 17, 2007, 06:42:00 AM
I wont be buying executer full stop and I know Im not the only ones in this boat... their customer service on their forums sucks. Ask a simple non-offensive question about one of there products and you get some power mad jerk calling you an idiot... there gettin famous for this over their... thanks Xeno, not as flashy but cheaper and without the idiots they got moderating their forums... Ill buy Xeno...
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: GomerPyle on March 17, 2007, 07:01:00 AM
Wait a minute in the second video it shows transfreing a sve to the Hard Drive. But the Hard Drive is on top of the Xbox and not connected. How is the video showing a HDD Transfer with the Hard Drive not even hooked up! uhh.gif  uhh.gif  uhh.gif
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: sabbath_dude on March 17, 2007, 09:42:00 AM
QUOTE(GomerPyle @ Mar 17 2007, 01:08 PM) View Post

Wait a minute in the second video it shows transfreing a sve to the Hard Drive. But the Hard Drive is on top of the Xbox and not connected. How is the video showing a HDD Transfer with the Hard Drive not even hooked up! uhh.gif  uhh.gif  uhh.gif


The HDD is connected. There's a slot you plug it into on the side of the top gear thats why it looks like the harddrive is just sitting there.

Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: XanTium on March 17, 2007, 09:56:00 AM
QUOTE(dmitri @ Mar 17 2007, 07:12 AM) View Post

It looks like this is only being pimped on X-S, they're the only site listed:
http://www.xenotopgear.com/media.html

I wonder how many penny's they're sharing with them to help undercut the Blaster.  blink.gif


We're probably the only independent xbox/360 scene site left.
We just give information about all products ... so just like we report about all Blaster360 news, we report about all Xeno Top Gear news.

We only earn on the ads u see on this site, so if you buy a Blaster or a Top Gear ... it's the same for us.
How good the Top Gear is, I can't say ... as we didn't get a sample yet.

For the Blaster360 ... I made an installation tutorial and posted high-res pictures of the sample I got.
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: skEwb on March 18, 2007, 03:54:00 AM
I told myself anything under $50 id buy it... well.. they win!
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: CrossCrucial on March 18, 2007, 07:53:00 PM
any word on whether or not you can rip DVDs with the top gear yet?
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: LESTAT on March 19, 2007, 04:39:00 PM
a SMART company would not openly advertise that they can rip games.

why ?   its freaking illegal!!

for everyone else to be doing it well, i hope you dont find your day in court with the M$ lawyers sitting across from you.

 

Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: MC2829 on March 20, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
After flashing your firmwire you can make and play back-up games too right?

Oh and how do you tell what drive you have? I'm not sure if mine can be firmwired or not, so just wondering.
Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: LESTAT on March 20, 2007, 07:27:00 PM
QUOTE(MC2829 @ Mar 20 2007, 04:09 PM) View Post
After flashing your firmwire you can make and play back-up games too right?

Oh and how do you tell what drive you have? I'm not sure if mine can be firmwired or not, so just wondering.


 

you still have to open your 360 to install this thing. same as the Xecutor.

and thats when you find out what drive you have.

if you really need to ask how you do it then i would suggest you make a stop at the newbie section and read the tutorials.

 

in every sence of the word this and the Xecutor devices are one of convenience.

sure its nice to have your unit all closed up and only have to open it once. but as another member said flashing is a one time deal and doesnt need to be done for quite a while. if ever.. the hard drive idea does open the door to some interesting possibilities but none that are currently available.

 

most interesting is the ability to instantly see the dvdrom in windows and the hard drive and do things with them right then and there. no need to use dos, or whatever.

as for ripping games i wouldnt see why it cant be used for such things. flash it with the ripping firmware and off you go..

 

as for the Xecutor device having all the protection and crap  who cares, this thing is using the power supplied to the device already to do what it needs to do.

there is little to know curcuit protection needed. all its doing is using a simple pass thru type technology and what power is needed is VERY minor and absolutely doesnt warrant the need to plug in amolex from your PC power supply.

 

frankly i find the Xecutor device extremely over bloated and extremely tasking in that you need to drag out a molex from your pc to hook up to it.

not only that but its retarded $75 price tag makes it unaffordable for most.

 

if these guys can do it for 45 then there is no reason why they need to charge 75.

Title: Xeno Top Gear Videos: FW Flashing and HDD-Transfer
Post by: devilstrider on March 20, 2007, 08:32:00 PM
QUOTE
if these guys can do it for 45 then there is no reason why they need to charge 75.


Preach!!