Post by: Xbox-Scene on November 15, 2006, 10:14:00 AM
| Maximus (Carranzafp) released a new version of his modified (Xtreme) firmware for the Xbox360 Hitachi-LG GDR-3120L v0078 DVD-drive: Quote
Official Site: n/a (by Maximus/Carranzafp) Download: n/a (might be illegal under DMCA/EUCD) News-Source: xbins.org |
Post by: darkliquid on November 15, 2006, 09:32:00 AM
Post by: xboxexpert on November 15, 2006, 09:37:00 AM
Post by: gli7ch on November 15, 2006, 09:47:00 AM
Post by: rupurt on November 15, 2006, 09:49:00 AM
Cool that there is another release. Now all we need is the media stealth for the LG-Hitachi drives (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: gli7ch on November 15, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
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Post by: rupurt on November 15, 2006, 09:58:00 AM
Media stealth makes it look like on xbox live that the disc you are playing is the original
i'm pretty sure anyway ;P
Post by: IntestineMan on November 15, 2006, 10:13:00 AM
Post by: trugamer79 on November 15, 2006, 10:13:00 AM
Post by: smash_linux on November 15, 2006, 10:33:00 AM
//smash
Post by: hookland on November 15, 2006, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE(smash_linux @ Nov 15 2006, 06:40 PM) 
This is only the firmware, no way to flash the 0078 drives without desoldering the chip yet?
//smash
full quote, please respond.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)
Post by: slimgrip on November 15, 2006, 11:05:00 AM
Post by: grizzlygaz on November 15, 2006, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: MicroShack on November 15, 2006, 12:08:00 PM
Post by: xboxexpert on November 15, 2006, 01:27:00 PM
QUOTE(trugamer79 @ Nov 15 2006, 12:20 PM)
How will this firmware update hold up against the updates? And How do I find out if I had ms 25 or ms 28 drive?
This is for Hitachi drives only...not samsungs.
Post by: PromiscuousRacoon on November 15, 2006, 02:14:00 PM
Post by: dynt on November 15, 2006, 01:58:00 PM
QUOTE(grizzlygaz @ Nov 15 2006, 08:14 PM) 
Its interesting, but how do we sort out the key extraction and patching side of things with it ?
Dump using slax and replace key using firmware toolbox v2
Post by: grizzlygaz on November 15, 2006, 03:07:00 PM
QUOTE(dynt @ Nov 15 2006, 11:05 PM)
Dump using slax and replace key using firmware toolbox v2
Sorry, I dont get it. The actual flash has to be desoldered and the bios image dumped out as a file in a programmer, how can we use slax for this ?
From what I read, the key is located at different addresses, how do we know where to grab the key in the original image to transfer over to the hacked image same address ?
sorry I dent elaborate on my earlier message, but this process is what I was meaning.
I have no problem dumping out the original firmware of a drive from the flash, and re-programming it, but could do with a little tut on how to get the original key and a little more info on where to copy / paste it into the released hacked image.
Post by: shiz on November 15, 2006, 03:23:00 PM
QUOTE(grizzlygaz @ Nov 15 2006, 11:14 PM)
Sorry, I dont get it. The actual flash has to be desoldered and the bios image dumped out as a file in a programmer, how can we use slax for this ?
From what I read, the key is located at different addresses, how do we know where to grab the key in the original image to transfer over to the hacked image same address ?
sorry I dent elaborate on my earlier message, but this process is what I was meaning.
I have no problem dumping out the original firmware of a drive from the flash, and re-programming it, but could do with a little tut on how to get the original key and a little more info on where to copy / paste it into the released hacked image.
agreed!
i just got my willem and adapter, very itchy to tinker with this
Post by: majik655 on November 15, 2006, 03:35:00 PM
QUOTE(shiz @ Nov 15 2006, 02:30 PM)
agreed!
i just got my willem and adapter, very itchy to tinker with this
can you point to where and what programmer you got.
Post by: shiz on November 15, 2006, 03:51:00 PM
Originally i had bought it for my hitachi (which has the older gen tsops) in case i bricked it
none the less here is what i bought:
Programmer
Adapter
Post by: dynt on November 15, 2006, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE(grizzlygaz @ Nov 16 2006, 12:14 AM)
Sorry, I dont get it. The actual flash has to be desoldered and the bios image dumped out as a file in a programmer, how can we use slax for this ?
From what I read, the key is located at different addresses, how do we know where to grab the key in the original image to transfer over to the hacked image same address ?
sorry I dent elaborate on my earlier message, but this process is what I was meaning.
I have no problem dumping out the original firmware of a drive from the flash, and re-programming it, but could do with a little tut on how to get the original key and a little more info on where to copy / paste it into the released hacked image.
as far as i understand you dont have to remove the chip to get a dump of the firmware, if you use the slax method to get the drive into mode b dump the firmware then use firmware toolbox to get the key.
You only have to remove the chip to re-programme the chip as there is no way to re-programme it thats what gary opa and the like are working on.
I would definately be getting the key first before ant attempts at chip removal
Post by: hazed69 on November 15, 2006, 05:08:00 PM
Post by: grizzlygaz on November 15, 2006, 04:33:00 PM
QUOTE(dynt @ Nov 16 2006, 01:11 AM)
as far as i understand you dont have to remove the chip to get a dump of the firmware, if you use the slax method to get the drive into mode b dump the firmware then use firmware toolbox to get the key.
You only have to remove the chip to re-programme the chip as there is no way to re-programme it thats what gary opa and the like are working on.
I would definately be getting the key first before ant attempts at chip removal
AHA ! I see, OK thanks for clearing that up, I didnt realise that slax could be used to dump out the firmware, and your right about getting the key first, at least then if the drive is trashed during a disassembly another drive could be used to save the day.
Post by: fes_786 on November 15, 2006, 05:15:00 PM
could some one confirm that we can dump the firmware using slax method
sorry if its been asked before just curious
and i havn't read it so far while ive been reading through some posts in the forum
Post by: violentj1 on November 15, 2006, 05:30:00 PM
im sure if the key was gettable this way it would be big news since folk could patch there key into a differant revision drive
Post by: hazed69 on November 15, 2006, 05:37:00 PM
Post by: xXForever69Xx on November 15, 2006, 10:36:00 PM
Post by: Hami on November 16, 2006, 12:36:00 AM
Illl ellaborate a little on the new firmware as i was speaking to maximus himself the other night. He had an issue with a gears or war original game, it would not boot on release 1.5 but does on 1.6 (Even tho a copy booted on bth versions). My MSN was doing wacky things last night so i didnt get the new firmware to try it out yet (update to follow), i wil tell you one thing though, the success rate on the 078 is not great, i have been dumping chips and passing on the firmwares to Gary/Maximus etc for analasys. 078 seems 50/50 atm, a friend had dumped 10 and only got 4 outta the 10 running and i have similar ratio.
However, i can dump they key and put into a replacment hitatchi nol problem at all!!
Ive said it once and im gonna REALLY SAY IT AGAIN, UNLESS YOUR A PRO DO NOT CONSIDER REMOVING THE BLACK EPOXY/COUMPOUND!! IF YOU ARE NOT EXPERIENCED, YOU WILL KILL YOUR DRIVE, ITS NOT JUST OVER IT, ITS ALSO UNDER IT AND HOLDING IT TO THE BOARD!!
[email protected]
http://www.techno-devices.com <under reconstruction
Post by: Lord Serebi on November 16, 2006, 10:27:00 AM
thats good, it was just a gimmick, a good caution from what happened in the xbox1 era w/ xbox live. Alot of people are using xbox1 logic on xbox360, like what speed to burn games etc.
Post by: Alcoholx on November 16, 2006, 10:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Hami @ Nov 16 2006, 07:43 AM)
Hi folks,
Illl ellaborate a little on the new firmware as i was speaking to maximus himself the other night. He had an issue with a gears or war original game, it would not boot on release 1.5 but does on 1.6 (Even tho a copy booted on bth versions). My MSN was doing wacky things last night so i didnt get the new firmware to try it out yet (update to follow), i wil tell you one thing though, the success rate on the 078 is not great, i have been dumping chips and passing on the firmwares to Gary/Maximus etc for analasys. 078 seems 50/50 atm, a friend had dumped 10 and only got 4 outta the 10 running and i have similar ratio.
However, i can dump they key and put into a replacment hitatchi nol problem at all!!
Ive said it once and im gonna REALLY SAY IT AGAIN, UNLESS YOUR A PRO DO NOT CONSIDER REMOVING THE BLACK EPOXY/COUMPOUND!! IF YOU ARE NOT EXPERIENCED, YOU WILL KILL YOUR DRIVE, ITS NOT JUST OVER IT, ITS ALSO UNDER IT AND HOLDING IT TO THE BOARD!!
[email protected]
http://www.techno-devices.com <under reconstruction
i do realise this has been skated around a few times but ive gota ask.... do you have to remove the chip to dump the key?, and if not did you just do it as per normal using memdump?
This post has been edited by Alcoholx: Nov 16 2006, 06:52 PM
Post by: garyopa on November 16, 2006, 12:18:00 PM
#1: You can only get the drive into Mode B using any of Slax CD's that work on the other Hitachi drives, you CAN NOT use the external "cross-wire" or "Team-X" or "Xeno" connect kits to get into Debug.
#2: Once in Mode B, currently you can only see the drive in Windows, there is STILL NO DIRECT software which allows you to read or dump or write the firmware via Windows, or Dos, or Linux.
#3: There is Maximus tool called "Firmware Tool Box v2.0" which can handle the new variable KEY placement and encrypt and decrypt the firmware, BUT only after you have removed the chip use an external programmer.
#4: There is also a Xtreme version of "Firmware" for the v78 drive (currently v1.6) but it only works if you first of course again, remove the chip and read it, and find your drive key, and then insert it into the v1.6 firmware and then encrypt it and then program a compatible chip and re-solder that chip back onto your v78 drive.
#5: I personally do have a v78 drive now, thanks to some loyal UK customers that have shipped me one at their cost.
#6: I am working on "software" versions of new tools which will be able to dump and then later write the firmware.
#7: You just need "MORE PATIENCE" then the people staying in line for almost a week for a $600 PS3, with 1 game
Post by: Alcoholx on November 16, 2006, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE(garyopa @ Nov 16 2006, 06:49 PM)
Just a quick update to correct these many wrong statements.
#1: You can only get the drive into Mode B using any of Slax CD's that work on the other Hitachi drives, you CAN NOT use the external "cross-wire" or "Team-X" or "Xeno" connect kits to get into Debug.
#2: Once in Mode B, currently you can only see the drive in Windows, there is STILL NO DIRECT software which allows you to read or dump or write the firmware via Windows, or Dos, or Linux.
#3: There is Maximus tool called "Firmware Tool Box v2.0" which can handle the new variable KEY placement and encrypt and decrypt the firmware, BUT only after you have removed the chip use an external programmer.
#4: There is also a Xtreme version of "Firmware" for the v78 drive (currently v1.6) but it only works if you first of course again, remove the chip and read it, and find your drive key, and then insert it into the v1.6 firmware and then encrypt it and then program a compatible chip and re-solder that chip back onto your v78 drive.
#5: I personally do have a v78 drive now, thanks to some loyal UK customers that have shipped me one at their cost.
#6: I am working on "software" versions of new tools which will be able to dump and then later write the firmware.
#7: You just need "MORE PATIENCE" then the people staying in line for almost a week for a $600 PS3, with 1 game
thankyou ... that cleared that up... good luck
Post by: MANHUNT on November 16, 2006, 12:56:00 PM
QUOTE(garyopa @ Nov 16 2006, 01:49 PM)
Just a quick update to correct these many wrong statements.
#1: You can only get the drive into Mode B using any of Slax CD's that work on the other Hitachi drives, you CAN NOT use the external "cross-wire" or "Team-X" or "Xeno" connect kits to get into Debug.
#2: Once in Mode B, currently you can only see the drive in Windows, there is STILL NO DIRECT software which allows you to read or dump or write the firmware via Windows, or Dos, or Linux.
#3: There is Maximus tool called "Firmware Tool Box v2.0" which can handle the new variable KEY placement and encrypt and decrypt the firmware, BUT only after you have removed the chip use an external programmer.
#4: There is also a Xtreme version of "Firmware" for the v78 drive (currently v1.6) but it only works if you first of course again, remove the chip and read it, and find your drive key, and then insert it into the v1.6 firmware and then encrypt it and then program a compatible chip and re-solder that chip back onto your v78 drive.
#5: I personally do have a v78 drive now, thanks to some loyal UK customers that have shipped me one at their cost.
#6: I am working on "software" versions of new tools which will be able to dump and then later write the firmware.
#7: You just need "MORE PATIENCE" then the people staying in line for almost a week for a $600 PS3, with 1 game
I am just a little bit confsued maybe I came in to this conversation to late. Although I was able to get into Mode B using X360 USB Connectivity Kit on my Hitachi drive. So it just depends on which version you have correct?
Post by: MANHUNT on November 16, 2006, 01:54:00 PM
Post by: SpareXX on November 22, 2006, 04:38:00 AM
I'll be waiting like a kid before christmas.
And since christmas is very close now, maybe i'll see this as a early or late christmas present
Good luck to the guys hugging the 360 hardware and their computer
I'll also be waiting with popcorn
Post by: faelagund on November 24, 2006, 01:26:00 PM
Should I just keep checking this thread every few days?
BTW, excellent work to everyone on "the scene". You guys rock
Thanks.
Post by: mwbuck on November 29, 2006, 01:16:00 PM
QUOTE(faelagund @ Nov 24 2006, 03:33 PM)
Just a quick question. What's the best way to get notified or the best area to check once a new firmware has been released? I'm dreaded over the 0078FW and i'm not about to attempt removing the chip lol
Should I just keep checking this thread every few days?
BTW, excellent work to everyone on "the scene". You guys rock
Thanks.
Just keep checking the main page...or better yet, subscribe to the rss feed.
Post by: cjg26 on November 29, 2006, 03:38:00 PM
Post by: fatmatt100 on November 29, 2006, 04:11:00 PM
Post by: djkym on November 29, 2006, 10:12:00 PM
Post by: sr_sparky on November 30, 2006, 03:20:00 AM
I have a 78fk in my xbox and it has the 0078 at the end of it too... Maybe you are onto something.
Post by: Arrrgh! on November 30, 2006, 10:40:00 AM
Post by: faelagund on December 01, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
good job!
Post by: AgentSBB on December 05, 2006, 01:46:00 AM
I am a newbie in replaceing FW for x360, so far the only thing I know for sure that I have one with LG drive.
Of course I will check the earlier mentioned number identification, and hoping that I do not have a v78 built in, since I have no tools to rewrite the FW with a rom programming device.
In case anybody has some info about when was v78 first built into the console then it could help for (I guess) lot's of us to breath up (or not).
Thx 4 the developers of these FWs, they are doing a great job
Post by: thecheekymonkey on December 05, 2006, 02:18:00 AM
removing the chip
Theres no easy way of doing this, its not as easy as people may make out, its a dodgy process and not for the faint hearted. i`m not gonna go into details, you`ll have to find your own method, all the stuff is out there for removing it, just be patient and try at least not to kill the chip.
once removed make sure that you use a fibreglass pen (or equivelant) to clean the pins (be careful) get all the shite off, and then clean the chip using whatever you want (i use meths to de-flux and clean)
make sure all pins are straight
you may have to remove and clean any epoxy from the sides of the chip as well, to get it into the programmer correctly.
its worth cleaning the underside of the chip and the pcb (where the chip has been seated) free of any glue residue, this will help the chip to sit more flush with the board when re-fitting. be careful cleaning the board.
always wipe the board and chip down with PCB cleaner to remove shite and any flux residue
dumping the firmware
using a willem, pop your chip into the programmer. Under the willem programmer select the device as
"39sf / 49sf020"
I didnt have to select any special settings on my programmer etc etc
on my willem the VF isnt supported, however after doing a few of these no with no problems, selecting this setting works, i get a good dump, and am able to retrieve the key.
now select the "get chip ID" , the prgammer will then tell you what chip you have, make sure it comes up correctly, if it doesnt, remove chip and re-seat, repeat process till it shows you your chip ID.
once it shows your chip ID READ THE CHIP, THEN SAVE IT AS (EXAMPLE) "078ORIG.BIN"
do this a couple of times, and open the firmware up in firmware toolbox 2.0 and make sure it identifys the firmware revision correctly, if it doesnt you have a bad dump, re-read and open till you get it to show correctly
example :-
Sorting out the firmware
once you have a good dump (excuse the pun) open it in firmware toolbox 2.0, where it displays the key, copy it. then open the "78_16.bin" file from 078 hacked firmware package (1.6) and copy the key into the key box.
Hit "replace key" once done click ok.
Now press the "generate encrypted file" button, this should then encrypt the hacked firmware which contains your key, and leave a new file in your folder called "78_16-.bin" this is the file which you will program to your chip.
programming the chip
At this point you have a choice, either erase and re-write to the old chip, or program a new chip. It is advised to program it to a new chip, but if you aint got one, your old one will have to to. Please understand that if youve got any of this process wrong and you feck up, its your own responsibility.
I use the old chips, mainly because i have a few spare, but i never use the chip i have removed, i always keep this with the original firmware on it and use a spare VF chip (same as original)
On the willem programmer software make sure that the device selected is :-
"39sf / 49sf020"
Always check the chip ID making sure it detects your chip properly. (if it doesnt repeat till it does
Now erase the chip ( i do it a couple of times), then do the "blank test".........let it run, make sure it verifys that the chip is empty.
Open your "78_16-.bin" in the willem software (File>Open)
Hit the "programme chip" button.
this will then prog the chip (in red), and verify it after (in green).
make sure it completes successfully.
thats it, done.
Resoldering the chip
I use a Hotair-rework station to desolder etc etc, but i prefer to use a soldering iron to resolder, its personal preference.
make sure you reflux the pads on the PCB (always worth fluxing the pads on the chip after cleaning)
I get the chip lined up, and solder one leg on one side first. then the oposite leg on the other side. this will allow you to get the chip seated correctly before soldering all the pins back.
Make sure you get all pins done correctly.
Powering on!!
Press eject , if the green light flashs constantly and you get an error onscreen (e64/e65) this means a bad firmware / flash etc etc/
Press the eject button and if green light flashs once only, then you havent got all pin soldered correctly, or theres track damage, either way something isnt connected right.
misc
after trying allsorts with my prgrammer, to read these chips etc etc (voltage changes / different device IDs etc etc) in the end the only way i could get this job done was to leave it on default settings, and use the
"39sf / 49sf020" device setting. This may not be the best way as the VF chips run on a different voltage than the SF chips, however this wsa the only way i could do this process, and its been successful!
Doing any of this, dont blame me if it dont work, or you fook your drive up, if you aint got money to burn, or your not confident in any of the process DONT ATTEMPT IT!
Ill neaten this up and add a few photos.
Post by: malbowsier on December 05, 2006, 03:31:00 AM
If your gonna buy one open it in the shop under the pretense of making sure absolutely everything is there (don't want the kids dissapointed xmas morning do we ??!! ) and check the date on the console. That's what all my customers are doing !!!
Sorry if this has already been stated but I was keen to give something back !
Cant wait till its possible to program these 078 drives by software !!
Post by: delahmed on December 05, 2006, 03:53:00 AM
QUOTE(cjg26 @ Nov 29 2006, 10:09 PM)
Hey guys great work you all do here............We're all very gratefull. I'm hoping somebody with a Hitachi 0078 drive reads this post. I was looking closely on the back of my 360 which has the 0078 drive and I noticed above where you plug the power cord into the back a 13 digit number outlined in a rectangle box that ends in 0078 on mine (you'll see Japanese writing with English near the area I'm talking about). I'm hoping someone else with the Hitachi 0078 Drive could look and see if the 13 digit number also ends in 0078 on theirs as well or if this is just a coincidense on mine. I know it's a longshot but this could be a way to identify the drive from the outside. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Hi,
I bought a Gear of war XBOX 360 premium bundle from PC world last week for £299.
I havent opened up the XBOX to see what drive i have, but looking at the tray (when ejected) it is definately a hitachi (found pic in the tutorial). I have also looked at the 13 digit number and it ends with 00t0. I am at work at the mo so cant check the manufacturer date, but sure it was manufactured after august (as GOW only came out on 17 NOV 06).
Have read a lot of stuff on this forum, and by the sounds of it i may have a Hitachi v78 firmware.
What does this mean? What options do ihave in terms of backing up my games and playing backups?
What is the difference between 78 and 78FK?
Thanks in advance
Post by: ExiledTaru on December 05, 2006, 04:26:00 PM
Post by: myfranco on December 05, 2006, 06:11:00 PM
I'm wondering what happens if we solder a SF chip instead of the original VF chip ? Does the chip die because of a different (lower or higher) voltage supplied by dvd drive ?
Saying that we desolder the VF chip ,read the firmware to get the key and we programme a SF chip with 0078.bin with that key and solder it back , would it work?
Post by: JB0101 on December 06, 2006, 02:15:00 PM
1. Is my globe 360 modchip useless against my newly purchased 360 with 00078drive?
2. What does vf and sf mean when talking about replacing the 00078 drive firmware chip?
3. Is there a sure fire way to remove the black glue without damaging the board?
4. Where would I go to by replacement chips that I can program myself?
5. Where can I buy a rework station?
6. Where can I buy this programmer everyone talks about so that I may dump firmware and replace with new hacked firmware?
7. Is there some kind of way I cant still back my games up from this 00078drive without changing the firmware?
8. Am I asking too many questions?
9. GARY OPA I would love to try to help you, what can I do? Let's make contact PM Me or send email please!!!
Post by: ExiledTaru on December 06, 2006, 02:39:00 PM
QUOTE(JB0101 @ Dec 6 2006, 09:15 PM)
Hey everyone thanks for all your info. I have many questions lets start with this one:
1. Is my globe 360 modchip useless against my newly purchased 360 with 00078drive?
i think you might have to remove the black stuff to wire it up
2. What does vf and sf mean when talking about replacing the 00078 drive firmware chip?
3. Is there a sure fire way to remove the black glue without damaging the board?
time, skill and effort, and even then a little bit of luck from what ive heard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
4. Where would I go to by replacement chips that I can program myself?
local electronics id say, maplins in the UK and radioshack in the states ?
5. Where can I buy a rework station?
same as above, maybe a more specialised place not sure
6. Where can I buy this programmer everyone talks about so that I may dump firmware and replace with new hacked firmware?
people have been buyin them from ebay with sucess
7. Is there some kind of way I cant still back my games up from this 00078drive without changing the firmware?
nopes
8. Am I asking too many questions?
maybe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
9. GARY OPA I would love to try to help you, what can I do? Let's make contact PM Me or send email please!!!
This post has been edited by ExiledTaru: Dec 6 2006, 10:40 PM
Post by: cjg26 on December 06, 2006, 07:46:00 PM
Post by: blontic on December 07, 2006, 01:32:00 AM
Post by: blontic on December 07, 2006, 02:24:00 AM
Post by: quijybo15 on December 07, 2006, 02:30:00 AM
QUOTE(blontic @ Dec 7 2006, 09:32 AM)
Is there a way to see the manufacter date threw the box before I buy it?
you can lift open the flap on the box to see the serial number, and above the serial number you'll see the manufacture date (YYYY-MM-DD)
QUOTE(blontic @ Dec 7 2006, 10:24 AM)
and where is the LOT number located on the box?
above the UPC
Post by: NEO_X on December 07, 2006, 05:03:00 AM
i mean the programmer from willem site just dont know which one to order
many thanks
Post by: cjg26 on December 07, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: scienide on December 08, 2006, 03:12:00 AM
QUOTE(malbowsier @ Dec 5 2006, 11:31 AM)
Cant wait till its possible to program these 078 drives by software !!
Is this even possible?
As far as i understood, the new hitachi drive doesnt have any command enabled for reading and flashing of the firmware.
If these sata commands are not available, how would someone flash this with software? Is there a possible backdoor to flash?
Now that microsoft is trying so hard to PREVENT flashing of the firmware, does that mean MS cannot detect currently used firmware?
With kind regards
Marco
Post by: cjg26 on December 08, 2006, 02:19:00 PM
QUOTE(scienide @ Dec 8 2006, 05:12 AM)
Is this even possible?
As far as i understood, the new hitachi drive doesnt have any command enabled for reading and flashing of the firmware.
If these sata commands are not available, how would someone flash this with software? Is there a possible backdoor to flash?
Now that microsoft is trying so hard to PREVENT flashing of the firmware, does that mean MS cannot detect currently used firmware?
With kind regards
Marco
I'm sure one of the gurus on this site will eventually get in the backdoor to flash firmware on the Hitachi 0078 F'n K Drive. These people NEVER fail to amaze me with the work they do. Believe me, you got some of the best IT guys in the world on it right now. Seems like all I ever hear when a new system or a new drive version comes out is how impossible it's going to be to crack and how nobody will never ever be able to do it. The next thing you know by the time you leave and sign back into the site there will be about 200,000 links and tutorials available detailing how a new crack works. Keep in mind when the original 360's came out there was advanced security binary code in both the DVD-drive and the games that had to be hexed so that the firmware that's available now could work. If I had to guess I would say that the 0078FK drive will eventually be software flashable in the same way that the enable0800 DVD can be inserted to put the Samsung drive into Mode B. My guess is that someone will create a disk image named [email protected] (for obvious reasons) that will disable the Hitachi drive security so the firmware can be flashed. If I've learned anything at all from this forum it is that there is always a way in and that these guys know how to find it.
Post by: malbowsier on December 13, 2006, 08:11:00 AM
You can tell them about it scratching your discs. A friend of mine did this and the guy at the store said they get about 1 in 10 consoles back with the same problem LOL !!!!
Any way good luck and peace out!!
Merry xmas
Post by: KboNe054 on December 13, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
If the store doesn't check, could it be possible for MS to come back later after they've received the defective 360, and they realize the sticker has been removed?
Basically, I'm wondering if the store you bought it from accepts the return because the don't open the case to check for the sticker, is there anyway that it could bite you in the butt later on when MS finds out that the sticker is removed. Or will nothing happen?
Has anybody run into any issue like this?
I have an 0078 and would like to get an older one ASAP but my sticker is removed and I'm not sure what exactly will happen.
Thanks.
Post by: cjg26 on December 14, 2006, 12:44:00 AM
QUOTE(KboNe054 @ Dec 13 2006, 11:23 AM)
Anybody experiencing any problems returning/exchanging after you have removed the MS Warranty sticker? (By method stated above; scratching disks, etc...
If the store doesn't check, could it be possible for MS to come back later after they've received the defective 360, and they realize the sticker has been removed?
Basically, I'm wondering if the store you bought it from accepts the return because the don't open the case to check for the sticker, is there anyway that it could bite you in the butt later on when MS finds out that the sticker is removed. Or will nothing happen?
Has anybody run into any issue like this?
I have an 0078 and would like to get an older one ASAP but my sticker is removed and I'm not sure what exactly will happen.
Thanks.
I didn't have any trouble at all when I returned mine. Mainly because I prepare for situations like this by opening the packaging with exteme care so should the need arise that I need to return it I can neatly put it back in the box the way it came. I've come to find out over the years that goes a long way at some of these stores. If you return one that looks like the box has been ran over by a truck and none of the accessories are in the plastic then I would imagine they will ask you 150 questions and go through the box with a fine tooth comb.........Especially to look to see if the sticker has been removed. Reallly though, I don't think the majority of the workers even know about the sticker. Of course I can only attest to the store where I returned mine but there policies are all pretty much the same. Even if they did mention the MS sticker being tampered with just play dumb about it (same goes with Microsoft). When I returned mine before I even told her the excuse about the DVD's scratching I brought to her attention the fact that I thought someone else had already owned and returned the one I had, even though there was no question it was BRAND new when I bought it. But saying something like that gives you an excuse should they mention the sticker or something else for that matter. If that were to happen you could say something like, "I told you I thought someone else had it before me" and even use that to your advantage for exchanging it because after all, you don't want to pay 400 bucks for one that has been taken apart and returned with a voided warranty. Also as I said in one of my earlier posts, the best chance you have to get a flashable drive (according to my own extensive research which may very well be wrong but worked for me) is to find one with a lot number less than 0620. I can tell you that I live in a big city and have looked in several large electronics stores and have saw very few lot numbers less than 0620 left. I got a lot #0619 with a TS-H943A ms25 drive dated 5-01-06 when I exchanged my 78FK about 2 weeks ago. Also, if you can pull back that tab on the box to see the date of manufacture to be safe I wouldn't buy one dated after May 1, 06 regardless of the lot number if you have the choice. The last thing I'm gonna say about it is it's also a good idea to scout the store out before you try to exchange yours so you can go right to the one you want. You don't want the person at the service desk waiting 2 hours for you to sort through every box in the store before you finally find a good one to take back up to exchange........You think that might look a little bit suspicious????? Chances are you're probably only going to get one shot @ this. I'm really not posting this because I support dishonesty or anything else for that matter............I just know how bad it blows to be one of you guys with a 78FK while everyone else is talking about how easy it is to flash there firmware and backup games. Some people have the patience to wait on the new drive firmware. I'm one of those that don't!!!!!!!!!
Post by: malbowsier on December 14, 2006, 03:58:00 AM
http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/dvd/TS-HLG.jpg
As long as the seal isn't broken you are entitled to a refund. And your not really doing anything wrong. You are exchanging a perfectly good, working console for another perfectly good, working but OLDER console.
The returned console will get sent back (untested) and sold on to some warehouse where it gets resold again as ex catalogue or returns (usually to market traders and the like). So your doing someone else a favour too as they will get a cheap 360 !!
And by that time probably able to flash the firmware on that 078 too!
Bonus! Everyone's happy !
Post by: tutu on December 14, 2006, 07:58:00 AM
Post by: malbowsier on December 14, 2006, 08:25:00 AM
thats what I'm getting at really.
Post by: BasicAir on December 15, 2006, 09:03:00 AM
Garyopa is still working on a firmware package to where we don't have to desolder or remove epoxy, right? He will be successful at some point, right? All we need to do is give him more time, no?
I am desperate to know these answers because I really want to know if I should take this console back and look for an older one.
Thanks!
This post has been edited by BasicAir: Dec 15 2006, 05:03 PM
Post by: Optics2k3 on December 15, 2006, 09:06:00 AM
Post by: myfranco on December 15, 2006, 10:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Optics2k3 @ Dec 15 2006, 06:06 PM)
theres already a method to flash without doing that with Maximus Firmware Toolz 3.0.. only problem is because the prick discovered it, its 260 bucks AMERICAN to buy it... so its only a matter of time till someone cracks it or makes a program out of the source
Is that 3.0 version real!!? I've seen the video on youtube and i thought it's fake. It looks quite simple ad real but i couldn't believe it
Post by: BasicAir on December 15, 2006, 11:18:00 AM
Post by: sethalooch on December 15, 2006, 11:30:00 AM
you seem to be seeking reassurance for an answer that doesnt exist yet.
chill out
Post by: Optics2k3 on December 15, 2006, 11:37:00 AM
Post by: BasicAir on December 15, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
QUOTE(sethalooch @ Dec 15 2006, 07:30 PM)
maybe.... maybe not.
you seem to be seeking reassurance for an answer that doesnt exist yet.
chill out
Maybe that's because I have the opportunity to return my 78 drive 360 or keep it if it's inevitable I'll be able to flash it as easy as other drives.
I'm not the only one, either.
Post by: cjg26 on December 17, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
Post by: bronx80 on December 17, 2006, 04:56:00 PM
I don't get it guys... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I have that GoW bundle, so my hitachi is 99% 0078 afaik.
in this topic I can read, that I should swap it for old model to make flashing possible and in topic about firmware toolbox 3.0, everyone is happy with using it to flash 0078... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
well... I would donate maximus too...
second thing is --> .... can I ask for a favour Mates? can anyone guide me where to get this firmware?? it's a real pain in the ass to find one .. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) mail me @ [email protected] if You cannot answer in here.
THANK YOU
Post by: malbowsier on December 19, 2006, 09:57:00 AM
tx go to the guys who do the hard work so we don't have too !!!
keep it up dudes !
Post by: bronx80 on December 19, 2006, 04:17:00 PM
dunn it... and...
IT WORKS!!Maximus... You are my main man.
THANK YOU. I mean it...
P.S. too all You guys looking for an answer, maybe Thou shall search the Bay of Corsairs
Post by: cjg26 on December 21, 2006, 03:05:00 PM
Post by: wetflyingmonkey on January 10, 2007, 04:23:00 PM
Question though: I have an older 47 firmware - can i use the maximus tool to update my firmware with v1.6 without reflashing it back to original - i lost my damn original firmware!!
Post by: ranad on February 07, 2007, 10:51:00 PM
Post by: Scott Lee on March 20, 2007, 09:19:00 AM
Post by: sosotiit on March 20, 2007, 09:26:00 AM
You can use FW toolbox 3.0 to generate your firmware.
rgds,soso
Post by: alexnestian on April 04, 2007, 10:17:00 PM
Post by: sosotiit on April 05, 2007, 06:56:00 AM
plse first read the pinned section and ask basic feature question in Newbie Chat . They are welcomed , but in the proper forum,
thks for your understanding.
rgds, soso
Post by: sosotiit on April 05, 2007, 08:58:00 PM
rgds, soso
Post by: PROEVO2008 on December 20, 2007, 03:02:00 AM
I have a Hitatchi 0079FL will the Maximus Xteme v1.6 work?
Thanks