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Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 05:19:00 AM
Here (link) is a database thread with the results people have had with the dash update.  Post yours!

Current Stats as of Nov. 1 @ 11PM EST:HOW TO AVOID PROBLEMS:
The problem seems to be completely random, and avoiding it seems to be a matter of luck more than anything.  However, the best precautions would be:IF YOU HAVE RUN INTO E66:*There is absolutely NO reason to panic if you get an E66 error, it is almost definitely fixable*

Commodore4Eva has given us information what exactly E66 is HERE.  It appears he may be right in his interperetation, but Microsoft's detection of different firmware is shaky at best as 80% of users have no issues whatsoever.

ABOUT E71:
E71 was apparently related, in most cases, to brand new consoles.  Microsoft has patched the dash update and people should not be getting this error anymore.
SOME INFO: HERE

This E66 seems to be a very ineffective attempt by MS to stop modders.

I, myself, ran the dashboard update with my MS25 w/4.1a firmware connected and had no issues.  There seems to be no logical pattern that causes one person to get the error, and another not to.  If more news becomes available, the thread will be updated.

*Good Luck!*

This post has been edited by OriginalCompGeek: Nov 3 2006, 01:03 AM
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: charis_k on October 31, 2006, 05:24:00 AM
one comment is that 4.2 is the FIXED 4.1.
So 4.2 is the way to go..


We must not forget once again to THANK c4e (and the rest) for being AGAIN one step forward before MS!!!

Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 05:26:00 AM
I noted no real advantages for 4.2 unless you were getting open tray errors.  4.1 is working fine for me.

This post has been edited by OriginalCompGeek: Oct 31 2006, 01:36 PM
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: charis_k on October 31, 2006, 05:41:00 AM
U R right,sorry..
4.2 can help on open tray errors?

Though c4e told its the 1.29 fw of pioneer 111 doing this...
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: joe90 on October 31, 2006, 05:50:00 AM
I was just about to post the same.. someone please highlight sitcky this.. hopefully we can get past the 'OH NOES BANNEDD !!!!111\1!!!' posts.

NO-ONE is banned.. obviouly just a compatabilty issue, which IS fixable.

why do people love mass hysteria and panic.. (more to come before the midterms)
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: noikz on October 31, 2006, 05:57:00 AM
I was running 4.2a.  Grabbed the fall update and ran into the E66 error.  Flashed back to original, worked fine, flashed back to 4.2a and hit E66 again.  Eventually I flashed to 3.3 and it's working fine.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Chaval BR on October 31, 2006, 06:35:00 AM
QUOTE(OriginalCompGeek @ Oct 31 2006, 10:26 AM) *

IF YOU HAVE RUN INTO E66:
Simple, reflash your drive.  Seems to have worked every time.

You mean...
Reflash with orig.bin, yes, it works...
What about reflash a drive with E66 with a newer (4.2) xtreme FW, works too?
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: liteon6x on October 31, 2006, 06:03:00 AM
i just flashed my ms28 with the latest 4.2a and did the dash update and now everthing is perfect
thanks c4eva
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: haccord on October 31, 2006, 06:12:00 AM
Hi guys !

Someone have been tried with a MS25 (firmware 1.0) ?

Regards  wink.gif
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Mana on October 31, 2006, 06:17:00 AM
remember even non modded people are now getting the e66, so this could just be the update being buggy...
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Canard-WC on October 31, 2006, 06:17:00 AM
Hi guys
Any news with the Hitachi/LG drive ? Seems thoses e66 bugs are juste compatibility issues, but I'd rather be sure before I apply this update ^^
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: purepwnage12560 on October 31, 2006, 06:20:00 AM
my friend just ran into the e66 and he has MS25 samsung drive
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Vintersorg69 on October 31, 2006, 06:58:00 AM
QUOTE(purepwnage12560 @ Oct 31 2006, 02:27 PM) *

my friend just ran into the e66 and he has MS25 samsung drive


modded? unmodded? what firmware?
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Canard-WC on October 31, 2006, 06:28:00 AM
Well i can confirme there is NO BUG with the update with the Hitachi/LG dvd with GaryOPA 2.3 (at least with the 47d drive)

You can play on live and enjoy backups too smile.gif
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: purepwnage12560 on October 31, 2006, 06:35:00 AM
he was using the latest FW the 4.2 from c4e i can confirm im looking at it right now it says E66 so i dont know what happened
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: loonyx on October 31, 2006, 06:56:00 AM
easy way to avoid any problems, unplug the dvd drive and update, works everytime on any 360 with no errors
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Kibe on October 31, 2006, 07:08:00 AM
QUOTE(loonyx @ Oct 31 2006, 02:03 PM) View Post

easy way to avoid any problems, unplug the dvd drive and update, works everytime on any 360 with no errors


Hey, didn't even knew it would boot without a DVD drive attached!

Will try that as soon as I get home!

Thanks for the hint!
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: kolpro on October 31, 2006, 07:18:00 AM
Question if you run the xbox 360 with the drive unplugged should the power led continue to flash green and the dashboard say opening? Just wondering.

Thanks in advance
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Bananas on October 31, 2006, 07:19:00 AM
QUOTE(loonyx @ Oct 31 2006, 02:03 PM) View Post

easy way to avoid any problems, unplug the dvd drive and update, works everytime on any 360 with no errors


Nice! Might not have to flash it again then, just hope i don't burn too many 0800 coasters if i do have to re-flash it.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: loonyx on October 31, 2006, 07:26:00 AM
unplug the drive completely from the 360, and power on and update. works fine
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: antz1970 on October 31, 2006, 07:39:00 AM
QUOTE(loonyx @ Oct 31 2006, 04:33 PM) View Post

unplug the drive completely from the 360, and power on and update. works fine



if this is the case then that means that ms is flashing something into the firmware!! , maybe someone needs to get a dump of an error66 firmware and compare to a non error 66 firmware(of the same type) and see if there are any differences between the 2
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: fakka on October 31, 2006, 08:03:00 AM
LOL! I was about to buy one today and flash it.

What would you recomend me to do...

 * Update the box first before I flash
 * Flash, then update
 * Or wait with buying one until this thing blows over

 ?
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Vintersorg69 on October 31, 2006, 08:09:00 AM
QUOTE(fakka @ Oct 31 2006, 04:10 PM) View Post

LOL! I was about to buy one today and flash it.

What would you recomend me to do...

 * Update the box first before I flash
 * Flash, then update
 * Or wait with buying one until this thing blows over

 ?


Buy know, buy the games you like, and have some fun.
And hack/flash the thing when there are more infos about security...
...if u have to!
If u don't care bout XBL, then buy it now and flash it w/ whatever works...
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Trex666 on October 31, 2006, 08:09:00 AM
QUOTE(OriginalCompGeek @ Oct 31 2006, 12:26 PM) View Post

HOW TO AVOIDProblems:
Samsung MS25 - Rarely seems to have issues, your safest bet is to have 4.1 or 4.2 firmware before you update.
Samsung MS28 - Seems to have issues a lot, though not always.  Best bet is to update to  Xtreme 4.1/4.2 firmware before updating.
Hitachi - Does not seem to be having issues.
IF YOU HAVE RUN INTO E66:
Simple, reflash your drive.  Seems to have worked every time.

*There is absolutely NO reason to panic, if it happens to you it is easily fixable*
I'll need mods to edit this with new info if/when it becomes available.



QUOTE(noikz @ Oct 31 2006, 02:00 PM) View Post

I already tried that before this thread was started.

I updated with 4.2a which gave me the E66 error.  Flashed back to original, worked fine, re-flashed a freshly updated 4.2a, E66 again.  Flashed to 3.3 and all working.


So the E66 error occurs when the update attempts to write to a 4.x xtreme firmware and fails?

Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Hinotori on October 31, 2006, 08:24:00 AM
Please be careful before stating that it is not banning. We know from the old XBOX days that banning can take up to some days... Hopefully, for our friends who got E66, it is just a compatibility issue... Let's wait and see. If I were about to hack my drive (which is original, btw), I would wait a few more days before doing that. Better be safe than sorry.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 08:33:00 AM
Thanks for all the replies guys.

I'd do some slight updates, but of course, I can't edit my post... I don't know if there's anything that can be done about this.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Bananas on October 31, 2006, 08:46:00 AM
I just downloaded the update and everything seems fine for now, Samsung/MS25 with xtreme 4.0 firmware, just unplugged the drive, updated, then plugged it back in.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: NookularDeath on October 31, 2006, 08:54:00 AM
before anyone starts assuming that the update actually is trying to flash the DVD firmware.. somebody better verify exactly what E66 or as someone else got a E71 means..

I seriously doubt the firmware is attempting to write to the DVD firmware.. that is highly risky on M$s part.. suppose you had a region wide power outage in mid upgrade and it bricked your system... M$ would get a class action lawsuit for bricking thousands consoles..

how many people have PAL and NTSC systems??

I upgraded both of my NTSC consoles which have a Hitachi and Samsung drives with the latest firmware respectively.. neither one got an error...



Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: lordinfamouz on October 31, 2006, 10:07:00 AM
so upgrading to the latest firmware with the the drive unplugged will work. even if using the ms28 drive?
can anyone confirm..most likely someone with the ms28 drive who have done the above method
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: CreisoN on October 31, 2006, 10:18:00 AM
(Xtreme v4.2 Fast Boot Mode as Default) looks like is error free!
Read team-xecuter.com
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: smash_linux on October 31, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
I think this is right for now, anyone can prove that this is wrong?

- MS25 : ORIGINAL OK
- MS25 : 3.0 OK
- MS25 : 3.1 OK
- MS25 : 3.2 OK
- MS25 : 3.3 OK
- MS25 : 4.0a/b OK
- MS25 : 4.1a/b ERR66
- MS25 : 4.2a/b OK

- MS28 : ORIGINAL OK
- MS28 : 3.0 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.0 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.1 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.2 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.3 ERR66
- MS28 : 4.0a/b ERR66
- MS28 : 4.1a/b OK
- MS28 : 4.2a/b OK
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: blackwing on October 31, 2006, 11:39:00 AM
QUOTE(smash_linux @ Oct 31 2006, 07:33 PM) View Post

I think this is right for now, anyone can prove that this is wrong?

- MS25 : ORIGINAL OK
- MS25 : 3.0 OK
- MS25 : 3.1 OK
- MS25 : 3.2 OK
- MS25 : 3.3 OK
- MS25 : 4.0a/b OK
- MS25 : 4.1a/b ERR66
- MS25 : 4.2a/b OK

- MS28 : ORIGINAL OK
- MS28 : 3.0 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.0 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.1 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.2 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.3 ERR66
- MS28 : 4.0a/b ERR66
- MS28 : 4.1a/b OK
- MS28 : 4.2a/b OK

Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: smash_linux on October 31, 2006, 12:00:00 PM
Cool, thanks!
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: alphanumeric303 on October 31, 2006, 12:28:00 PM
Unplugging might work, but we dont know if it is related or not.  What if the same people that unplugged their drive before installing the update were the same people that wouldnt have been affected by the update anyway.  

For those that updated and unplugged their drives, can you please post your firmware version and drive version.  



On a side note:  It still bugs me that people that havent even modded their boxes are getting the same error.  I dont know if this is a good thing or bad.  I still havent turned on my 360, and I will probably wait until there is more testing done.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
My update:

Drive: MS25
Firmware: 4.1a, key inserted with the Xtreme included .bat
Drive Left Connected during update

Everything went perfectly smooth.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: infidelity on October 31, 2006, 01:08:00 PM
I havent received any error codes, but after the update, my gamertag did disappear, and I was able to recover it from XBOX Live.

This update DID NOT effect my flashed Hitachi.

Just wanted to share my findings.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 01:14:00 PM
QUOTE(vicfalc09 @ Oct 31 2006, 03:15 PM) View Post

If a drive is not flashed yet do you reccomend flashing before or after the update.

I don't think it matters a whole lot.

Im not even sure what I'd do in the same situation.  Might as well update first, I guess.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: I'dkickurass@cod2 on October 31, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
Yep got the E66 error when I downloaded the update this morning. I have a MS25 drive with 4.2A firmware. I flashed it back to original, worked fine, then I flashed it back to 4.2A, same error. Did that a couple of times then went back to 3.3. It works but I don't feel like I'm protected.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 01:29:00 PM
QUOTE(I'dkickurass@cod2 @ Oct 31 2006, 03:29 PM) View Post

Yep got the E66 error when I downloaded the update this morning. I have a MS25 drive with 4.2A firmware. I flashed it back to original, worked fine, then I flashed it back to 4.2A, same error. Did that a couple of times then went back to 3.3. It works but I don't feel like I'm protected.

Manually hexedit your key from orig.bin into the 4.2a firmware.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 03:24:00 PM
Original posted updated with more solid facts.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: HSDEMONZ on October 31, 2006, 03:36:00 PM
^ added as moderator.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: HaZe303 on October 31, 2006, 03:56:00 PM
Anyone with LG drive having this issue yet??

Ps. Thx everyone for doing such fast and good jobs on this issue!! smile.gif
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 03:58:00 PM
There seem to be a few sporadic Hitachi issues, much less often than the Samsung.  If you have a Hitachi, chances are you'll be alright.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 04:10:00 PM
QUOTE(TigerHawk @ Oct 31 2006, 06:12 PM) View Post

Originally MS25 Samsung Drive, flashed with 4.1A by way of Make41A.bat
System works after updating. NTSC

If it means anything, I unplugged my network cable immediately after it restarted and the startup animation stuttered. I wasn't able to recreate this stutter by restarting. Maybe random but it might be significant.

I left mine plugged in and it stuttered.  I think it's just the update being applied.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 04:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Techmaster @ Oct 31 2006, 06:18 PM) View Post

MS28 works with 4.0 as well.  I just tested it.  Not sure about MS25, but I don't see why it wouldn't work as well.

I have refrained from tying a specific drive to a specific firmware giving a specific error, because there are no solid lines in that area.

4.1+ contains some extra read-blocking features that 4.0- does not (See Xtreme 4.1 readme).  I can't recommend flashing to 4.0 or below.  There are success stories with just about every version of the firmware.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: biga55 on October 31, 2006, 04:41:00 PM
I have a Hitachi with the old firmware (xtreme 1.1), the one that takes a while to load the games.

I bet I'll get the error if I update, as I've already read some others had errors with the old firmware.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: purepwnage12560 on October 31, 2006, 04:46:00 PM
just got a new xbox 360 (hitachi drive) did not open it has original everythig applied update it rebooted and BAM E71 is the error im getting
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: antz1970 on October 31, 2006, 04:53:00 PM
a m8s ms28 flashed with v3.2 , after update error66 , refleshed with 4.2a and all is well biggrin.gif
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
QUOTE(Dravor @ Oct 31 2006, 07:05 PM) View Post

I'm willing to be a reflash of the dvd drive firmware causes something to clear in cmos on the board?  It would almost make sense, sometime goes wrong with the update, something isn't cleared, and the firmware flash on the dvd drive simply causes the board to reset.

Now what really sucks is those with stock boxes who get these errors have to send them back in.  Ouch.

Not quite, a good number of people still get the error when they flash back to original, and then back to modded firmware.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: jxoxn21 on October 31, 2006, 05:31:00 PM
QUOTE(TigerHawk @ Oct 31 2006, 06:12 PM) View Post

Originally MS25 Samsung Drive, flashed with 4.1A by way of Make41A.bat
System works after updating. NTSC

If it means anything, I unplugged my network cable immediately after it restarted and the startup animation stuttered. I wasn't able to recreate this stutter by restarting. Maybe random but it might be significant.


I just got home and updated:

Hitachi 47dj
xtreme 2.2

Updated, automatically restarted. I put in my backup of import tuner challenge. it started reading the cd, about 2 seconds later it studdered and the beginning animation studdered. I was unable to duplicate the error a second time. Not sure if this is relevent but i see other people are having the same issue. MY 2 CENTS  cool.gif
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 05:43:00 PM
The stuttering only happens on the first boot up after the update.  Seems like it's just the update being applied, it doesn't sound like something to worry about.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 31, 2006, 06:13:00 PM
It does not appear to be effective to flash back to orig.bin, almost every instance of flashing back to orig.bin first causes E66 when Xtreme installed later.

Maybe the new update checks to see if the firmware is readable to begin with, and if that changes gives you the error?  Kinda' goin' out on a limb, but it's possible.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: port443 on October 31, 2006, 08:11:00 PM

Have an Original or backup game disc in the drive then do the update. 100% no error 66 smile.gif

Done on multiple Xbox 360 configs. All 100%.......
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: boofie75 on October 31, 2006, 09:46:00 PM
I've got a 25, unplugged DVD drive, updated, no prob, bob.  Everything's still AOK.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: TheDarkLord on October 31, 2006, 09:49:00 PM
QUOTE(smash_linux @ Oct 31 2006, 01:33 PM) View Post

I think this is right for now, anyone can prove that this is wrong?

- MS25 : ORIGINAL OK
- MS25 : 3.0 OK
- MS25 : 3.1 OK
- MS25 : 3.2 OK
- MS25 : 3.3 OK
- MS25 : 4.0a/b OK
- MS25 : 4.1a/b ERR66
- MS25 : 4.2a/b OK

- MS28 : ORIGINAL OK
- MS28 : 3.0 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.0 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.1 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.2 ERR66
- MS28 : 3.3 ERR66
- MS28 : 4.0a/b ERR66
- MS28 : 4.1a/b OK
- MS28 : 4.2a/b OK


Well I have a TS MS28 with the 3.2 hacked firmware and it works fine, no error, no problems, everithing is fine.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: jayb082 on October 31, 2006, 10:52:00 PM
Xbox: 12-16-05

Drive: Toshiba-Samsung

Firmware: Xtreme 3.0

SUCCESS! Updated perfectly fine, everything works like before!
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Monty1157 on November 01, 2006, 01:24:00 AM
MS-25 drive with Xtreme4.2a installed here. Once I got the Xbox update, it went straight to an E66 error. Soo....Onto the firmware reflash:

Original: Worked every time.
4.2a: E66
4.1a: E66
4.0a: E66
3.3: Working.

Don't ask me why it didn't like the stealthed firmware. But for whatever reason it just got plain upset. Booting with the drive plugged into the PC sata port did not cause an error, so it's deffo something to do with the drive in one way or another. I did try flashing the original firmware onto the drive, letting the 360 boot a couple of times, just in case M$ decided to play around with the original flash, re-read it from the drive, and re-patched this new original onto the above firmware. All met with the same results. Oh yeah, and I tried both KDX and X360SAM for patching in the keys. I did not try to manually patch the key. May attempt that with the latest firmware when I have a better day than yesterday. Getting it working was the up point for me last night.

If it could have went wrong, it did...... *sigh*

biggrin.gif
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: 360newbie360 on November 01, 2006, 02:41:00 AM
I got xtreme 4.0 and a MS28..
Have not updated yet..
Can someone confirm that updating without the DVD drive connected works?
If not I think it's better to wait for a while...
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: CreisoN on November 01, 2006, 03:59:00 AM
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XBOX360 USA NTSC  
Hitachi-LG 46D  
FW-Maximus-Garyopa_XTRM-HITACHI_v2_3_Stealth_Rev2  
PS:EVERYTHING VERY NORMAL UPDATE NICE AND CLEAR 100%  
NEW DASH ALL WORKING GOOD
ON LIVE
GAMES EVERYTING TESTED   pop.gif
====================================================================
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Obveron on November 01, 2006, 04:42:00 AM
If the 3.x firmware is based on ms25 firmware, and the ms28 and ms25 are the same hardware...
Why does the ms25 work with 3.x firmware but ms28 doesnt?
Is it because the key is different?
Has anyone succesfully got a ms28 to work with a 3.x firmware (maybe with a different hex editing procedure)?
I know the solution is to update to 4.2, I'm just looking for speculation as to why the error.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: bourke on November 01, 2006, 04:43:00 AM
QUOTE(I'dkickurass@cod2 @ Nov 1 2006, 07:29 AM) View Post
Yep got the E66 error when I downloaded the update this morning. I have a MS25 drive with 4.2A firmware. I flashed it back to original, worked fine, then I flashed it back to 4.2A, same error. Did that a couple of times then went back to 3.3. It works but I don't feel like I'm protected.


Sounds like the update checks whether or not it can 'see' your drive during the firmware installation - if it can't see your drive and KNOWS that it should (i.e. it knows that you have a MS25 not a MS28) then that could be it!

Can anyone confirm that early (2005 model) MS25 drives work with 4.x firmwares after the update?
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: TDB on November 03, 2006, 07:30:00 AM
Noob post here...  huh.gif

I have got the E66 after the update & have a Samsung TS-H943A F/W MS28 the problem being i got a company to flash the drive for me & they have said they do not have a backup of the orig.bin & said they will look at trying to fix it for me but will have to charge a standard fee + additional costs (im a mug for taking the easy option in the first place).

Am i screwed? or is there a way around this? i have all the gubbins here to re flash but without the original .bin from the drive i cannot see a way around this (i mean the drive key)

Any help would be great.

TIA
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Obveron on November 03, 2006, 07:33:00 AM
Your unique hexkey should be retrievable from you existing 'hacked' firmware.  I don't think you are screwed.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: mattyv on November 03, 2006, 07:35:00 AM
QUOTE(TDB @ Nov 3 2006, 09:37 AM) View Post

Noob post here...  huh.gif

I have got the E66 after the update & have a MS28 the problem being i got a company to flash the drive for me & they have said they do not have a backup of the orig.bin & said they will look at trying to fix it for me but will have to charge a standard fee + additional costs (im a mug for taking the easy option in the first place).

Am i screwed? or is there a way around this? i have all the gubbins here to re flash but without the original .bin from the drive i cannot see a way around this (i mean the drive key)

Any help would be great.

TIA

 As long as the current flash has the correct key embedded, all you need to do is dump the FW, hex edit and copy the key into a stock MS28 FW bin.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Jozek on November 03, 2006, 11:40:00 AM
QUOTE(cerealkillajme @ Nov 1 2006, 02:35 PM) View Post

Yeah you should be fine to update using either FW when updating, and both FWs should work fine after the update too.

But when I ' ve got 3.0, Can I update too?
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: bluefalcon on November 03, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
Anyone heard of E76?  I bought a Premium Xbox near launch. Kept it and maybe did an update on the day i bought it, dont remember.  Just got around to firmware hack a few days ago.  It is a sammy ms25 and i put in 4.2b via extreme bootmaker and it worked fine.  Played a few game backups and then decided to go online and do the fall update.  It had an error after it finished and the tray was out.  I powered down and rebooted, played a backup, and it worked.  I went back online and it asked for another update.  It took that update played a backup and went to sleep with internet unplugged from xbox.  Now it is giving me E76, i might be mistaken but i thought i read E75 on the boot  before that.  If i have a backup in the drive it loads the world screen then goes to E76, lower right light blinking.  If i do not have a disk in, it goes right to E76.  I was able to bring the firmware back down to 3.3 and it still does the same thing.  I have not tried leaving it at original firmware yet, that is next.  Am i missing something really obvious here?  Has anyone heard of E76?  The forums say they do not know what it means.  I am guessing that this is an offshoot of the E71 problem.  Completely stumped. sad.gif

Ready to go out and buy a new xbox360 core but i am afraid of bricking another one. I read in one forum that someone accidently updated there xbox 360 by plugging in the hard drive of an updated one.  They said it just updated without asking.

It should be noted that i did my fall update during the time frame that microsoft was going to come out with a fix for the fall update but had not done so yet.

Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on November 03, 2006, 04:11:00 PM
QUOTE(bluefalcon @ Nov 3 2006, 06:06 PM) View Post

Anyone heard of E76?  I bought a Premium Xbox near launch. Kept it and maybe did an update on the day i bought it, dont remember.  Just got around to firmware hack a few days ago.  It is a sammy ms25 and i put in 4.2b via extreme bootmaker and it worked fine.  Played a few game backups and then decided to go online and do the fall update.  It had an error after it finished and the tray was out.  I powered down and rebooted, played a backup, and it worked.  I went back online and it asked for another update.  It took that update played a backup and went to sleep with internet unplugged from xbox.  Now it is giving me E76, i might be mistaken but i thought i read E75 on the boot  before that.  If i have a backup in the drive it loads the world screen then goes to E76, lower right light blinking.  If i do not have a disk in, it goes right to E76.  I was able to bring the firmware back down to 3.3 and it still does the same thing.  I have not tried leaving it at original firmware yet, that is next.  Am i missing something really obvious here?  Has anyone heard of E76?  The forums say they do not know what it means.  I am guessing that this is an offshoot of the E71 problem.  Completely stumped. sad.gif

Ready to go out and buy a new xbox360 core but i am afraid of bricking another one. I read in one forum that someone accidently updated there xbox 360 by plugging in the hard drive of an updated one.  They said it just updated without asking.

It should be noted that i did my fall update during the time frame that microsoft was going to come out with a fix for the fall update but had not done so yet.
Well, first things first, try the original firmware and see what happens.  We'll work from there.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Assi9 on November 03, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
Remember the days when you installed software and it asked "are you sure?" and when you got ready to flash something, YOU executed and rebooted?  Do you remember why it was such a big deal?  Because you had so much money into the machine, and wanted to actually use it.

Don't buy into the whole MS doesn't make money off the consoles crap.  You bought a console, a hard drive, a network adapter, wireless controller, XBOX LIVE (and some upgrades and games), a cooling fan, a battery charger, a few games.  So you bought some discs and backed up some games so you didn't have to rent them 2 or 3 times until you decided to buy them.  If anyone is losing money, it's Blockbuster.  But do they disable your ability to go back and rent more games or even buy something there?  No that wouldnt make sense.

Microsoft has done the equivalent of the mafia going out and slashing tires on cars of everyone in a family because someone in it didn't pay back the loan.  Disabling legitimate hardware, what a great way to boost sales of PS3s.



Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: bluefalcon on November 03, 2006, 10:53:00 PM
Got a solution to my E76 Error - I had lower right red light flashing and E76 error no matter which firmware i had after the fall update (but not right after, the next day).  I read in another forum That E76 code is for network error.  I plugged in a network cable and booted my PGR3 Orig and it started working after over 2 days of hell.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Jozek on November 04, 2006, 12:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Jozek @ Nov 3 2006, 07:47 PM) View Post

But when I ' ve got 3.0, Can I update too?

Who can ask to my question?
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: averian on November 05, 2006, 07:38:00 PM
Sometimes reflashing back to the original firmware isn't enough...when you have swapped drives!

I have your fix for those that swapped original Hitachi's for replacement Samsungs.

Story: Refurb Xbox with Samsung ms25 swapped in place of its original Hitachi 47DJ 3 months ago. Not even the stock original firmware would work on the Samsung ms25 after the update (e66).

THE FIX: Manual hexedit of Samsung ms25 firmware to replace mentions of TS-H943 with equivalent code from original Hitachi 47DJ firmware. (starts around $2020, be diligent here as there are some slight differences, use the Samsung's syntax). Now original edited Samsung firmware works, as should any edited xtreme firmware without any e66 error!
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: ewok666 on November 05, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Assi9 @ Nov 4 2006, 03:58 AM) View Post

I'm unplugged my network adapter until FW comes out that resolves all issues with all drives.


Looks like you've got a network cable for sale ;-)
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Liquidslim on November 07, 2006, 07:52:00 AM
I have Xtreme v3.3 Samsung (M25).

Should I unplug DVD Drive then update or should I just update?

Thanks. smile.gif
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: StayingOccupied on November 07, 2006, 11:01:00 AM
QUOTE(thetarget @ Nov 7 2006, 04:39 PM) View Post

hi all is the update you are talking about the one that pops up soon as you connect your xbox to live
saying that you can not use live unless you download this update ?

Yes


I have a Samsung MS28/xtreme33 and i unhooked the dvd drive sata/power and updated. It worked fine, until i rehooked up the dvd drive then i got error 66. I'm attempting to reflash right now with xtrem42b. Will let you know how it turns out.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: thetarget on November 07, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
thanks for the info  biggrin.gif


i have the ms25 xtreme 3.2 and updated with no problem and never removed the drive


Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Liquidslim on November 07, 2006, 12:54:00 PM
I have a Samsung (MS25) with Xtreme v3.3 The Manufactured Date is 4-16-2006.

Will it be safe for me to do the fall update? (Should I unplug dvd drive or not?)

Thanks A Lot.

*Just want to be sure.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: Daveychan on November 08, 2006, 06:26:00 PM
Nothing new here.. just thought I'd add my bit:

I have an MS25 Toshiba-Samsung flashed with Xtreme 3.2 (created by the X360SAM.EXE) and updated to the new desktop version with no problems.  I did not remove my DVD connections.

(Tested and played my backups without any issues or hangs, including the latest game release, F.E.A.R.)
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: mcding82 on November 09, 2006, 01:34:00 PM
done updat on ms28 hw005 and now keep gettin open tray error. can anybody help please iam u sing xtreme4.2a what can i do to fix this happens on cod3 and ultimate alliance
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: SNAAAKE on November 09, 2006, 02:59:00 PM
ok I know I should be reading more but I just checked the forum for like 20 minutes and couldnd find an answer. what exactly is the deal with the 42.a/b rev a package ? I see files for hitachi drives on it too, do I use this to flash hitaci drives too ?? thought hitachis didnt have x42 yet and hitachis werent effected by fall update. anyone  ??
thanks in advance..DOODS !

btw, I did flash a ms25 drive yesterday with the updated x42b and everything working perfect, no E66 error.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: diddyk on November 11, 2006, 03:35:00 PM
I have a premium system that was manufactured in 1/06 so I'm assuming I have a MS25 Toshiba-Samsung . I haven't flashed my drive yet but I have downloaded the live update. I want to flash it but I'm not sure what will work and not brick my machine. Has anyone flashed an older system for the first time after installing the update? If so what was used and did it work?  

 Thanks  smile.gif
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: dbl on November 19, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
Hey..

Just modded a MS-25 with 4.2 xtreme FW.

Did the update before i flashed the DVD.

Now im getting E66 as i turned it on after the flash, wtf :/

And now it seems i have problems to get the old stored fw back into the drive, it just hangs at "port : 9e0, Master/Slave a0"

Bitchass shit :x ..can anyone give me some advise?

To get the old FW back its "mtkflash w /sata orig.bin ... right?

peace, and thanks in advance yo
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: sonny11 on November 20, 2006, 12:51:00 PM
Here is a qestion for you..

I have a new xbox360 with HL drive 47DH Firmware.

I plan on flashing it with Max v2.3 r2

I don't have any plans on going on xboxlive..

My question is do I need to install this Fall update for the 360 to work correctly or can I just leave off firmware on it?
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: EMoNey1 on November 21, 2006, 02:32:00 PM
Can anyone confirm that unplugging the drive and updating does work?  Just want to be sure before I do it.

Thanks
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: EMoNey1 on November 21, 2006, 04:03:00 PM
Can anyone confirm if the unplug is the solution or if it is just a coincidence?
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on November 21, 2006, 04:17:00 PM
QUOTE(dbl @ Nov 19 2006, 08:06 PM) View Post

Hey..

Just modded a MS-25 with 4.2 xtreme FW.

Did the update before i flashed the DVD.

Now im getting E66 as i turned it on after the flash, wtf :/

And now it seems i have problems to get the old stored fw back into the drive, it just hangs at "port : 9e0, Master/Slave a0"

Bitchass shit :x ..can anyone give me some advise?

To get the old FW back its "mtkflash w /sata orig.bin ... right?

peace, and thanks in advance yo

chances are that a game will eventually include the update.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: donrapello on December 15, 2006, 09:28:00 AM
QUOTE(eugenile @ Dec 4 2006, 10:21 AM) View Post

I am having the exact same problem! It was fine flashing, then I get e66, and I try toi flash and it just hangs there.


well, i flashed one 360 with xtreme 4.2 and it went to e66 after that. ts-drive with ms25.
re-flashed with updated version of xtreme 4.2 and it's working just fine. just remember to use enable
0800-mode-disc if you have already flashed your drive.. you should understand that you aren't
able to read/write the firmware if 4.x xtreme is installed because the firmguard.. that's if you have read the readme.txt.
Title: Info & How To: Avoid/fix E66 Issues With Fall Dash Update
Post by: oldhouse on December 20, 2006, 10:38:00 AM
any news about updating dashboard while using hitachi 078fk hacked firmware by maximus tool 3.0?