Post by: Xbox-Scene on October 24, 2006, 12:17:00 AM
Commodore4eva's Xtreme firmware 4.2A and 4.2B for TS-H943 Xbox 360 Posted by Iriez | October 24 02:17 EST |
Whats new/fixed: (v4.2) Security Sector read order now based on actual PFI from disk resulting in faster better booting for backups. Technical details: Security sectors are read in this order: Only if disc is type DVD-Rom read Xbox 360 security sector from PSN FD021E and above(Layer 1) Otherwise read Xbox 360 security sector from PSN 04FB1F (Layer 0) then check for Enable0800 security sector from PSN 04FB1F (Layer 0) then read Xbox 1 security sector from PSN 605FF (Layer 0) Samsung Xtreme firmware was always immune to the EA dummy SS on original. This makes it faster and more reliable for SS reads. No more attempted read/seeks of SS from FD021E and above for backups! Hitachi will need to be updated to a similar routine! Official Site: xboxhacker.net Download: n/a (May be Illegal under DMCA/EUCD) |
Post by: cmart* on October 23, 2006, 11:29:00 PM
thx c4e
Post by: 04wrx on October 23, 2006, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: Textbook on October 23, 2006, 11:42:00 PM
Post by: ORange-9mm on October 23, 2006, 11:42:00 PM
cmart* revolutiontt.net is the bomb, no?
Post by: lord^infamous on October 23, 2006, 11:54:00 PM
Post by: bongmaster420 on October 23, 2006, 11:59:00 PM
Post by: Heet on October 24, 2006, 12:31:00 AM
Thanks for the release!!
Post by: cmart* on October 24, 2006, 12:38:00 AM
QUOTE(ORange-9mm @ Oct 24 2006, 12:49 AM) 
Can't wait to upgrade, Thanks.
cmart* revolutiontt.net is the bomb, no?
Yea, its great...its got a lot of good stuff...and fast speeds..
Post by: iPwn on October 24, 2006, 01:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Oct 24 2006, 06:49 AM) 
I was hoping it would be out tonight. Well..technically it's Tuesday now, haha. Glad to see the improvement with the SS detection.
same.. oh well, project for tomorrow...
EDIT: DUDES ABOVE ME TALKING ABOUT DLz AND BT.... shut your mouth!
Post by: ZuZZu on October 24, 2006, 01:35:00 AM
I've a Samsung TS-H552B with latest firmware. There is another system or CloneCD works for Enable0800.iso in my DVD writer?
I've Xtreme firmware 4.0B but i can't upgrade without Enable0800.iso burned...
Post by: Biaz on October 24, 2006, 01:38:00 AM
Post by: Textbook on October 24, 2006, 01:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Biaz @ Oct 24 2006, 03:45 AM)
Who said it was a C4E release? I don't see that stated anywhere...
Read this.
Post by: adamscybot on October 24, 2006, 02:08:00 AM
Post by: Toofan on October 24, 2006, 02:11:00 AM
Post by: Heet on October 24, 2006, 02:46:00 AM
Thanks sir!
Can anyone confirm this fixes open tray garbage? Thanks.
Post by: slimgrip on October 24, 2006, 03:09:00 AM
Post by: chango on October 24, 2006, 03:20:00 AM
QUOTE(Heet @ Oct 24 2006, 09:53 AM)
Cool, may fix the open tray bs. And damn that was a fast response by EA (er ms) LOL. Faster response by C4e and the scene
Thanks sir!
Can anyone confirm this fixes open tray garbage? Thanks.
Fast response by MS? What exactly are you talking about, was 4.0 or 4.1 counter measured?
Post by: Heet on October 24, 2006, 03:27:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=556272
Post by: adamscybot on October 24, 2006, 04:07:00 AM
Post by: Heet on October 24, 2006, 04:19:00 AM
Post by: cerealkillajme on October 24, 2006, 04:32:00 AM
Once again, great work c4e
Post by: B4tm4n on October 24, 2006, 04:33:00 AM
Thanks.
Post by: Kurto2021 on October 24, 2006, 05:49:00 AM
Post by: B4tm4n on October 24, 2006, 06:02:00 AM
I think its a 3500A so how do I check wether it works without burning a coaster ?
Cheers.
Post by: langnao on October 24, 2006, 06:11:00 AM
QUOTE(B4tm4n @ Oct 24 2006, 08:09 PM)
I've used Imageburn for the 4 backups I've burned using a NEC drive (don't know the model number) without any coasters. But I've read somwhere that the Enable0800.iso doesn't work when burned with Imageburn and you need to use CloneCd. So I'll have to find out wether my drive is compatible with CloneCd then.
I think its a 3500A so how do I check wether it works without burning a coaster ?
Cheers.
Yes. Try to burn with CloneCD first. Default settings, burn at 2.4x.
To all who asked, burn with Dual Layer DVD + R disc ...
Post by: langnao on October 24, 2006, 06:21:00 AM
Post by: epicurean on October 24, 2006, 06:26:00 AM
Post by: Samy`D on October 24, 2006, 06:27:00 AM
1) Hook up the SATA cable to the computer, but power thru x360.
2) Boot computer to dos (with the power off)
3) turn power on
4) run mtkflash w /m x42a.bin. You should now have a list of devices hooked up to the computer. (one of which is your SATA controller the DVD drive is hooked up to). Don't choose anything yet.
5) power off the x360.
6) choose the appropriate SATA controller (for example: SATA VIA6421 Master). It will go to flash and pause, though you should see some numbers (an a0 and a 9000 in my case) with some words I forget, the same that always come up when you flash.
7) power on the x360. As soon as you do this it should start flashing. You are done.
8) enjoy.
Post by: cerealkillajme on October 24, 2006, 06:30:00 AM
QUOTE(langnao @ Oct 24 2006, 01:28 PM)
Somehow I think the present unlocking the drive for read/write thru enable0800 disc is much better. Should the option of unlocking by ejecting the tray be implemented, everytime when u r connected to Live and u eject the tray to put in a disc, you r 'vulnerable'. It is like a firewall that has a temporary loop-hole.
I don't think you understand the eject method. If it's the same as Hitachi it works like this.
Open the tray, pull the power plug (tray stays open and 360 cuts off), then plug it back in, start 360, now your in mode B'
There is no way to make the 360 shutdown with the drive tray open unless you pull the power. When it starts the tray is open already. I doubt M$ could figure out a way to trick the FW to think that's been done.
Post by: B4tm4n on October 24, 2006, 06:31:00 AM
QUOTE(calvin940 @ Oct 24 2006, 01:19 PM)
I think I'll wait until c4eva implements the dual method for getting the drive into firmguard bypass. It would be nice to have a couple of options in case one isn't working for you. Plus it's a pain to open both of my 360's for every release
But c4eva, keep 'em coming man. We all appreciate your hard work.Cal
If you've allready flashed to a Xtreme 4.x your still going to have use the enable0800.iso to upgrade to the newer firmware.
Post by: mksoftware on October 24, 2006, 06:36:00 AM
QUOTE(adamscybot @ Oct 24 2006, 10:15 AM)
Hitachi is being left too long - its falling behind. We want to play PGA07 original!!
I agree 100%. Garyopa and the others are very busy at the moment, and C4eva stated that he won't be working on the hitachi anymore. Well, C4Eva... you have a perfect Samsung firmware right now. Can't you just help the hitachi owners getting the same results?
Post by: langnao on October 24, 2006, 06:43:00 AM
Post by: jok on October 24, 2006, 06:51:00 AM
Post by: alz123 on October 24, 2006, 07:04:00 AM
v 4.1b runs quit
v 4.2b runs fast
can anyone confirm has the quit mode been diasled in v 4.2b ????
thanks
Post by: stepppp on October 24, 2006, 07:34:00 AM
I had probs with 0800 disc...i was using Rivision media to burn it with no joy. Just burnt the image with a VERB disc and it work perfect.
Oh and i used clone cd to burn the image.
Thanks for the new firmware Commodore4eva, you sir are a genious.
Post by: Ranger72 on October 24, 2006, 07:38:00 AM
QUOTE(jok @ Oct 24 2006, 01:58 PM)
it will be great if C4E read this !!!
I would like an answer to this also before I flash. I only use the slower version and I dont want to flash the wrong firmware.
I guess I could flash both ones to see for myself, but I do not like flashing more than I have too.
Post by: tr1pp3r on October 24, 2006, 07:44:00 AM
Flashed from 4.0a (fast) to 4.2a (fast)
Platinums run great as always. (fast speed!)
Verbatim's run great when console is cold. all of them boot.
When console get's warmed up a little..
Platinums still run great as always.
verbatims won't boot.... Open Tray error.
So i think, only solutions is ... search for best media to fit your drive or do the rubber band trick ?
Post by: PhatheadWRX on October 25, 2006, 06:03:00 AM
QUOTE(manh @ Oct 24 2006, 11:46 PM) 
what is the whole ordeal behind this new SS retrieval in 4.2? i dont really understand what its doing, can someone please clarify for me what this whole SS retrieval benefit us from?
does this mean we can just do a backup of the original without patching and also play xbox1 backup without patching and burning them on dvd dl?
It is to try and fix the "open tray error" that people have been fixing with the rubber band trick. Reading through a few of these posts its seems like people are still getting the error.
Also EA put a dummy ss on the retail copy of Tiger Woods which was causing the original to not boot when played on a Hitachi with OPA fw 2.2 or older.
I never had a open tray error (well once, but it was because my drive got very hot), so I personally am sticking with 4.1A
[edit] for those of you worried about burning the 0800 disk and have not yet upgraded to a 4.0+ fw just burn the disk with Clone CD and see if you can get your -4.0 fw drive recgonized in windows. Thats how easy it is to test. And to the guy that had the NEC 3500A earlier, I used to have one of these and it made 0800 and verb backups perfectly with clone cd at 2.4x
This post has been edited by PhatheadWRX: Oct 25 2006, 01:06 PM
Post by: Monty1157 on October 25, 2006, 06:17:00 AM
QUOTE(langnao @ Oct 25 2006, 11:20 AM)
Your problem seems to be the 'open tray error' which happen to some and they fix by using the 'rubber-band method'. Search the forum, there is a thread on it.
Yup, from a lot of researching on these forums, it's the Open Tray error. I just don't want to strip the drive down and do the rubber band mod. Nothing against it, just something I don't want to do to the console. I'd prefer to wait until there's either a firmware fix for it, or attempt to use different media to see if that improves things. Maybe even investigate a better cooling method for the console as I'm damn sure it's heat that's the culprit. Only thing is, I don't want to move the freezer through to the livingroom to confirm my suspicions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
This post has been edited by Monty1157: Oct 25 2006, 01:35 PM
Post by: mayonnaise on October 25, 2006, 07:05:00 AM
QUOTE(XLNC @ Oct 24 2006, 07:03 PM)
Does this mean that dual layer discs isn't a requirement?
No, because every game must be a complete raw untouched dump that is burned on a Dual layer disc.
Post by: superviza on October 25, 2006, 07:07:00 AM
Thanks C4 for all your efforts.
Post by: mr-smith on October 25, 2006, 07:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Monty1157 @ Oct 25 2006, 12:48 PM)
Maybe even investigate a better cooling method for the console as I'm damn sure it's heat that's the culprit. Only thing is, I don't want to move the freezer through to the livingroom to confirm my suspicions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
QUOTE
Just flashed my drive from 4.1b to 4.2b and it is running perfect, nice and quiet and load times seem only a tiny bit slower but the 360 is whisper quiet now...
I'm yet to flash my box, but it seems pretty obvious that the drive is overheating on DL+ media to me. (either that or the discs are getting too hot due to the laser), I guess using the 4.2b firmware will mean it may read a bit slower but a slower spinning motor will keep the head down.
Shame the dvd drive is encased because theres really little we can do to cool it, folks are even reporting verbs are getting hot now too! Saw a recharge kit in UK Asda today which has 3 fans and mounts on the side of the xbox360 case guess this may help, but kinda defeats the point of having a quiet console....
Post by: Monty1157 on October 25, 2006, 08:43:00 AM
QUOTE(mr-smith @ Oct 25 2006, 02:28 PM)
I'm yet to flash my box, but it seems pretty obvious that the drive is overheating on DL+ media to me. (either that or the discs are getting too hot due to the laser), I guess using the 4.2b firmware will mean it may read a bit slower but a slower spinning motor will keep the head down.
Never tried the 4.xb firmware as I prefer it to read at the same speed as the originals, although I'll admit that I've not seen what difference the 4.xb firmware would make to loading times, though I dread to think what Dead Rising would be like with a slower read speed. I'm enjoying the game, but I'm seeing more of the little red spinning loading graphic than I am of the game so far. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I can't compare the 4.x firmware to previous releases since I only patched with v4.1a a couple of weeks ago, and then with 4.2a last night. As for the overheating, I wouldn't put it down to the drive itself, more the rather large heatsink planked right next to it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
QUOTE(mr-smith @ Oct 25 2006, 02:28 PM)
Shame the dvd drive is encased because theres really little we can do to cool it, folks are even reporting verbs are getting hot now too! Saw a recharge kit in UK Asda today which has 3 fans and mounts on the side of the xbox360 case guess this may help, but kinda defeats the point of having a quiet console....
And that's the Catch-22. Quiet console with minor downtime in between games in a major playing session, or a replica soundscape of Heathrow in yer livingroom. I know which I'd go for. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) In all honesty tho', there's not much you can do with external cooling. You either go small 'n noisy to keep the external housing in line with the console itself, or get large 'n quiet fans, with a housing to match, that doubles the size of the thing.
Or go watercooled. If you have the cash 'n confidence to do so. The first I'm outta after buying a console, and the latter I'll build up to when I have the cash to buy a replacement if I blow the current one up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: mr-smith on October 25, 2006, 09:52:00 AM
I'm fed up waiting for pgr3 to load by the time the race starts!
Post by: Boke on October 25, 2006, 10:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Monty1157 @ Oct 25 2006, 03:14 PM)
I've not seen what difference the 4.xb firmware would make to loading times, though I dread to think what Dead Rising would be like with a slower read speed. I'm enjoying the game, but I'm seeing more of the little red spinning loading graphic than I am of the game so far.
Maybe you should try the slower read speed then. Read errors might be the cause of the slow load times.
Dead Rising loads fast for me at the 2.4x - 4x speed. Usually in less than 2 turns of the loading graphic. Even the larger areas load in less than 4 turns.
Post by: Monty1157 on October 25, 2006, 11:28:00 AM
QUOTE(Boke @ Oct 25 2006, 04:45 PM)
Maybe you should try the slower read speed then. Read errors might be the cause of the slow load times.
Dead Rising loads fast for me at the 2.4x - 4x speed. Usually in less than 2 turns of the loading graphic. Even the larger areas load in less than 4 turns.
It's not the speed of the loads that gets me. It's the amount. It was getting to the point last night that I was terrified to press a button in case it loaded. Again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I don't think there's a problem reading the discs. I've never had a skip, burp, stutter, or noisy load on any of the backups, and comparing them to the originals, they're running like for like. If there's a slowdown on loading something, then it's too small a difference for me to notice.
There's no problems on loading the first backup. Works flawlessly, as it does throughout the entire length of play, even after, say four or six hours. It's only on subsequent loads of other backups, even the backup I'd just used, that it has trouble finding the disc, and hits the Tray Open error. Putting in an original, and booting from that, to put it into the slower read mode (according to the 4.x release notes for the a version of the firmware release), doesn't help with the Open Tray error. Same thing happens. The only thing, barring the rubber band mod, to solve this issue is to let the console cool down for five minutes by turning it off. Not a biggie to me anyway. Allows me to go make a cuppa.
Come to think of it, I wonder if there's a way to use the overheated 360 to boil the water for the cuppa, thus transferring the heat to the water and cooling the console quicker? Hmmm....Kettlemod. Have to look into that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
QUOTE(mr-smith @ Oct 25 2006, 04:45 PM)
Don't tell me "dead rising" load times are worse than that of "PGR3"?? surely not??
I'm fed up waiting for pgr3 to load by the time the race starts!
Don't have PGR3. Race games aren't my thing. Sorry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
The best way I can explain it is the thought that I had when trying to play Dead Rising for the first time. Oh no, not another Final Fantasy VIII (Or was it IX? The last one on the PSX anyway). All I remember from that game was the horrendous load times between locations. Really annoying if you had to run from one location to another trying to figure out what to do next. After going through five locations you felt like crying it was that soul destroying. Sorry if peeps picked up what I meant incorrectly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: 0x13h on October 25, 2006, 03:58:00 PM
Very good work C43, you are the man! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/torch.gif)
Post by: fyr3wyr3 on October 25, 2006, 06:06:00 PM
Post by: pablizzo on October 25, 2006, 06:18:00 PM
"Make xx.bin" looks for orig.bin, the looks for the key in the location it should be (regardless of hacked or stock FW) then patches it over to the new xx.bin. Since it only needs the key, it doesnt matter if the fw is hacked or not as long as it can read it, copy it over, and patch the other fw.
Sound correct in my head, but someone please put me in check if im wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
Post by: Monty1157 on October 25, 2006, 07:42:00 PM
Post by: langnao on October 25, 2006, 08:02:00 PM
QUOTE(pablizzo @ Oct 26 2006, 07:49 AM)
Not that i know, purely my guess.
"Make xx.bin" looks for orig.bin, the looks for the key in the location it should be (regardless of hacked or stock FW) then patches it over to the new xx.bin. Since it only needs the key, it doesnt matter if the fw is hacked or not as long as it can read it, copy it over, and patch the other fw.
Sound correct in my head, but someone please put me in check if im wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
You are correct. It doesn't matter whatever it is original firmware or previous version of xtreme, what is does is just extracting the key and put it into the new firmware. Thus as long as the key is valid, it will work ...
Post by: iPwn on October 25, 2006, 10:41:00 PM
Post by: Puma81 on October 27, 2006, 06:48:00 AM
Post by: ntloser on October 27, 2006, 08:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Puma81 @ Oct 27 2006, 08:55 AM)
Like someone said before. For SOME its not a heat issue for and for others it is the laser for getting the open tray. I myself have tested that my issue IS in deed 100% Heat releated. If I was to let my 360 heat up with the disk tray ejected with the backup still in the tray for a couple hours and go to play it I would get an open tray error. I would have to let that disk then chill inside the pre heated 360 for a while to get it to boot. The other way if I got impatient and didnt want to wait I ran the disk under hot a** water, whiped the water off and quickly popped it in the tray. Low and behold it booted. I've also tested with fans inside the case point at the Disk drive and this worked as well.
Puma,
It is heat sensitive for some. For others it doesn't matter how cool they keep their box. However, the underlying issue is still the same.The laser has a harder time with the DL +R media and will try to read from the center of the disk.
My first 360 had the open tray issue. If I removed the guts from the case and put large house fans on it, I would NOT get the open tray error. (I only tested this over a 3 day period.) The elastic fixed this and i was able to put my 360 back to gether and not worry about the open tray.
For others, the laser will try to read from center even if the drive is removed from the 360 and kept cool.
I was skeptical at first too but the results speak for themselves.
Post by: Smooth Criminal on October 27, 2006, 07:42:00 PM
When I place the 360 verticaly, it has more probability to do not open the tray... need to be pressed a little to open...
when I place the 360 horizontally, it less probability to do not open the tray...
but in both cases it happened th open tray bug!!
Post by: dslknight on October 31, 2006, 01:48:00 AM
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Post by: jabroniekilla on December 06, 2006, 10:10:00 AM
QUOTE(Oddish @ Dec 6 2006, 11:31 AM)
In the guide that comes with this release, there's nothing about how to put this drive in modeb or getting it to show up in Windows. I've only flashed Hitachi-LG drives before so I'd really like it if someone could point me in the direction of a _complete_ guide to flashing a Toshiba-Samsung (ms25). What do I have to do to get it in modeb and get it detected in Windows?
samsung drives dont have mode b. you have to burn the enable0800.iso to a dual layer dvd+r. Power on 360, put enable disc in drive,let the cd spin up about 10 seconds, eject disc, sammy now in 0800 mode, pc can now detect drive. Also, the enable0800 disc unlocks the firmguard for xtreme4.0 and up.