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Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Nickwpearce on September 26, 2006, 02:48:00 AM

Hi,

My mate got a 360 today opened it up, Hitachi (GDR-3120L), I can flash these no problem

Hooked it up, everything in place, drive in Mode B with Slax CD Windows detected it!

Then decided to check the ROM version, it was a bloody 0078FK!

Just wondering if anyone has seen these before or if anyone knows how long or if there will be an upgrade for the firmware...

I live in Autralia by the way and it was a premium pack

Any help would be appriciated

Thanks

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ash1471 on September 26, 2006, 02:58:00 AM

QUOTE(Nickwpearce @ Sep 26 2006, 09:55 AM)

Hi,

My mate got a 360 today opened it up, Hitachi (GDR-3120L), I can flash these no problem

Seriously???? Looks like we need garyOPA sooner than we thought.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Nickwpearce on September 26, 2006, 06:16:00 AM

so any idea how long it will take for xtreme firmware for this drive?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: caster420 on September 26, 2006, 08:35:00 AM

For anyone to start looking at it they will need a dump of the fw. I havent seen this posted anywhere else, so they may not have it yet or know about it. If the fw is similar with minor changes, then it shouldnt take long at all (different sectors to flash, etc...).

Caster.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on September 26, 2006, 08:48:00 AM

It took literally days for the other hlg models to be done after commodore cracked the 47.

This shouldn't take too long, on a seperate note, has anybody come across a Philips drive yet ?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: jameswalter on September 26, 2006, 11:17:00 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Sep 26 2006, 07:19 AM)

It took literally days for the other hlg models to be done after commodore cracked the 47.

This shouldn't take too long, on a seperate note, has anybody come across a Philips drive yet ?

I think Philips were only in the dev kits....I believe Lite-On will be the next model of 360 drives we see.

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Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on September 26, 2006, 12:40:00 PM

I'm thinking that there won't be a lot of difference between the Lite On drives and the ones that we already have though because they would need to pretty much overhaul a lot of the way in which the console works to take security checks completely out of the drive fw.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on September 27, 2006, 09:59:00 PM

Hmm. Love MS, something new to play with, big jump from 59 to 78,
I hope they did a number of good changes.

Anyway, if someone is kind enough to email us the dump, we will
release a new package within 48 hours for you all.

Use the "rogers" email in our sig. below

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 28, 2006, 01:43:00 AM

Someone just gave me this drive ROM VER 0078FK so can it be done? the date is 25/8/06

so I just use OPA-XTREME-HITACHI-7IN1-V2_1?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MarKeR1971 on September 28, 2006, 02:23:00 AM

Do not use flash that drive yet mate, opa hasn't released any firmware or it yet..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 28, 2006, 02:47:00 AM

QUOTE(MarKeR1971 @ Sep 28 2006, 05:24 PM)

Do not use flash that drive yet mate, opa hasn't released any firmware or it yet..

no I havent flashed it I was going to then I found this thread

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on September 28, 2006, 10:21:00 AM

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Sep 28 2006, 03:14 AM)

Someone just gave me this drive ROM VER 0078FK so can it be done? the date is 25/8/06

so I just use OPA-XTREME-HITACHI-7IN1-V2_1?

If you can get the drive see in Windows, run our current package, and then email us the
WAS.BIN file from the backup directory, and we will be able to update and release a new
package shortly that will be able to flash this drive.

From testing you might only be able to get the drive in ModeB using the Slax CD, as it
looks like the "debug" mode via "cross-wire" and/or TeamX kit is non-operation now on
this new firmware/hardware design of the drive.

If you can't get the drive into ModeB (in windows), then could you please take a high-res
scan of the mainboard inside the drive for comparing to older drive models.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on September 28, 2006, 02:59:00 PM

The initial post said that the drive was picked up in Windows through slax.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: jitster on September 28, 2006, 02:49:00 PM

So you can't use the team xecuter connectivity kit to flash the drive anymore ? (to get into mode

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 28, 2006, 04:46:00 PM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Sep 29 2006, 01:58 AM)

From testing you might only be able to get the drive in ModeB using the Slax CD, as it
looks like the "debug" mode via "cross-wire" and/or TeamX kit is non-operation now on
this new firmware/hardware design of the drive.

I'm going to try the slax cd can I use the team X kit to just power the drive and have both buttons up? also if windows locks up can I use the xecuter to eject the Hitachi drive?

When I backup the firmware won't it try and flash the drive too and make the drive not work, or will it just back it up and bring an error up ?I have only done 2 Hitachi's before using the Xecuter kit.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 28, 2006, 06:01:00 PM

Great I got it working in Windows with the Slax cd and the xecuter Kit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) the only problem I had was booting windows after the loading screen the screen went black so I pressed the eject putton on the xecuter kit and windows started.
I'm not going to get the was.bin until I here from garyopa I don't want to risk stuffing up the xbox.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/foaley77/xbox%20360/Xbox%20Scene/hitachidrive2.jpg)

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/foaley77/xbox%20360/Xbox%20Scene/IMG_0233.jpg)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 28, 2006, 05:58:00 PM

I tried the Xecuter again and the drive did not show up in Windows

I ran the slax cd again and this time I did not have to eject the drive.... all working in Windows again.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: DgrMouse on September 28, 2006, 08:46:00 PM

I can't even get the slax cd to run properly. I keep getting arrors of missing files, and it doesn't matter where I 'obtain' the iso from

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Sep 29 2006, 07:32 AM)

You should be able to get the FW using the memdump util. All included in OPA autoflasher. Just read the batch file and type the commands in that dump to the 'was.bin' file

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on September 28, 2006, 09:24:00 PM

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Sep 28 2006, 07:32 PM)

Great I got it working in Windows with the Slax cd and the xecuter Kit

the only problem I had was booting windows after the loading screen the screen went black so I pressed the eject putton on the xecuter kit and windows started.
I'm not going to get the was.bin until I here from garyopa I don't want to risk stuffing up the xbox.

Looking good, just dump the firmware now, you can either run our package or just type in the
X-LG directory the following command

"memdump E 12200 8 8000 was.bin"

Replacing the E in the above example with the correct drive letter which windows has assigned
with your drive.

sometimes on windows startup you need to press eject on the drive to boot into windows.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 28, 2006, 11:40:00 PM

Just sent you the was.bin Gary.
you have 48 Hours (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(DgrMouse @ Sep 29 2006, 11:47 AM)

I can't even get the slax cd to run properly. I keep getting arrors of missing files, and it doesn't matter where I 'obtain' the iso from

What chipset is the sata? mine is a Silicon 3512

This post has been edited by foaley77: Sep 29 2006, 06:51 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: DgrMouse on September 28, 2006, 11:48:00 PM

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Sep 29 2006, 01:11 PM)

Just sent you the was.bin Gary.
What chipset is the sata? mine is a Silicon 3512

I have tried on a via 8237 and a nforce4. Both would pick up the drive, but neither would see it in windows. Not sure, but I think I might have to re-install windows. Although, ever other drive I have tried, it has worked no problems, and I have flashed at least 50 drives, both sammy's and hitachi's

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 28, 2006, 11:17:00 PM

QUOTE(DgrMouse @ Sep 29 2006, 02:49 PM)

Do you have an older Hitachi around so you can see if that works?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Nickwpearce on September 29, 2006, 09:19:00 AM

ok so garyopa has the firmware sent to him? I don't need to send it?

Could you let us know if it can be done in this thread

thanks a lot mate

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 29, 2006, 04:29:00 PM

QUOTE(Nickwpearce @ Sep 30 2006, 12:20 AM)

ok so garyopa has the firmware sent to him? I don't need to send it?

Yeah I sent it to him yesterday.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Nickwpearce on September 29, 2006, 07:23:00 PM

awesome, shouldn't take long now

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on September 29, 2006, 08:17:00 PM

It might take a little longer as it so far noone has been able to get a dump of the firmware.

If MS is smart, they would have redone the READ code to stop a total dump of the firmware.

Much like Maximus did on the Stealth firmware.

He changed the READ function to return original Bytes instead of xtreme bytes.

I am sure MS has thought of the same idea, and changed the READ function

To use other values, so the "12200" address Trick most likely will not work anymore.

This post has been edited by garyopa: Sep 30 2006, 03:17 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 29, 2006, 08:27:00 PM

this was using the memdump H 91004F0 1 10 key.bin

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This post has been edited by foaley77: Sep 30 2006, 03:27 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: federico69 on September 30, 2006, 01:52:00 AM

Hi all,
Just an FYI I purchased a 360 yesterday. Opened it up last night and was greeted by the dreaded 0078fk

I am also in Australia like foaley77. It seems these drives will get more and more common as XMAS desends upon us so GaryOPA .... We need your help! I'm sure you'll love the new challenge hopefully no soldering will be required like some of the new Sammys.

Mmmm hopefully the kids don't scratch my discs too much till you figure it out ...

Thanks.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on September 30, 2006, 02:22:00 AM

I hope someone down-under has a external eeprom programmer and good rework soldering station,
so they can remove the flash chip and read it externally, as it seems MS has patched the "memdump"
from working correctly.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 30, 2006, 02:41:00 AM

QUOTE(federico69 @ Sep 30 2006, 04:53 PM)

Hi all,
Just an FYI I purchased a 360 yesterday. Opened it up last night and was greeted by the dreaded 0078fk

Thanks.

What was the date on your xbox mine is 25/8/06?

QUOTE(garyopa @ Sep 30 2006, 05:23 PM)

Gary would you have to do this for every 0078 F/W or could you make a program so it would just read like the normal ones?

Wonder how long it will be till America and Canada get these drives.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on September 30, 2006, 02:45:00 AM

Once a external dump is made, then I can study the read routinue and find a way to
rewrite the memdump and flashsec programs to work.

I am sure this drives will be appearing here soon, but we still selling stock from the
March/April dates, very rare to see nothing but Samsung or 47 drives, even the 59
has not been seen here much.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 30, 2006, 03:28:00 AM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Sep 30 2006, 06:22 PM)

Crap that's not good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Nickwpearce on September 30, 2006, 03:13:00 AM

same here mate tried to read it in kdx5.1 no go

looks like selling it on ebay, buying a second hand one

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mksoftware on September 30, 2006, 04:12:00 AM

QUOTE(Nickwpearce @ Sep 30 2006, 11:20 AM)

same here mate tried to read it in kdx5.1 no go

looks like selling it on ebay, buying a second hand one

Well, first of all you need a key to apply to your second handed one. Without a tool to read out firmware, you can't!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on September 30, 2006, 05:11:00 AM

QUOTE(mksoftware @ Sep 30 2006, 10:43 AM)

Well, first of all you need a key to apply to your second handed one. Without a tool to read out firmware, you can't!

I think he meant selling the whole console and buying an old one off someone.
At least, I hope he did. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)

This post has been edited by Hopeful: Sep 30 2006, 12:13 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 30, 2006, 06:24:00 AM

QUOTE(Nickwpearce @ Sep 30 2006, 06:50 PM)

same here mate tried to read it in kdx5.1 no go

looks like selling it on ebay, buying a second hand one

I got this drive by a customer as I could not flash it I gave him a secondhand one that I had (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) wish I didn't now oh well I hope someone can read the firmware soon.

I'm going to keep mine though.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: federico69 on September 30, 2006, 07:01:00 PM

Hi foaley77,
My Manufacturing date is:
2006-08-26

Looks like us Aussies are getting used as MS guinea pigs ...

To all the MS employees reading this thread ... G'DAY!

I understand that there is nothing GaryOPA can do without a firmware dump despite his best intentions, unfortunately un-soldering the flash chip off the Hitachi is well above the level of my soldering skills.

Damn I knew I should have paid attention in those Electronic Engineering labs. I'll be patient till a solution comes along.

Cheers,

Fed.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on September 30, 2006, 06:54:00 PM

federico69 are you able to get this drive to work in Windows? Gary has gave me a few different commands and it would be good if you could try them out to.

memdump E 91004F0 1 10 key.bin

memdump E A200 8 8000 test0.bin

memdump E 1A200 8 8000 test1.bin

memdump E 22200 8 8000 test2.bin

memdump E 8000 4 8000 int78.bin

change the drive letter for your PC

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: modtek on October 01, 2006, 01:55:00 AM

Damn, got one today opened it up and its a 0078fk!....F*.k'

Date i have is 24/08/06 on it....

Any help on these will be appreciated.,

Damn MS, you co$t.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Niteman1969 on October 01, 2006, 04:38:00 AM

QUOTE(modtek @ Oct 1 2006, 08:26 AM)

Damn, got one today opened it up and its a 0078fk!....F*.k'

Date i have is 24/08/06 on it....

Any help on these will be appreciated.,

Damn MS, you co$t. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Lol , Microsoft have a right to try and combat people trying to run backups
and it's you costing them money not the other way round.

Seriously though Relax I'm sure GaryOPA is all over it.

It has always been a battle between hackers and manufactures
where it comes to consoles.

Somone works out a way to play backups , the manufacturer responds with
a new anti-disc copying method or something to combat the hack that is working,
then the hackers reply with another method, its a never ending battle.

Regards

Niteman1969

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 01, 2006, 12:14:00 PM

It's possible though, going from what has been said already, that you may have to reprogram this chip through a programmer instead of sata flashing the drive.

It was only a matter of time before MS took measures though, like the above poster said, they have every right to do so.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MrPlow on October 01, 2006, 01:13:00 PM

Sent my 360 (sammy) into M$ for repair and they sent me a brand new one, which has the dreaded 0078fk. I'm in the UK.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 01, 2006, 01:15:00 PM

Shit it looks like more of these drives are popping up all over the place, it was bound to happen sooner or later though.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: federico69 on October 01, 2006, 05:18:00 PM

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Oct 1 2006, 11:01 AM)

federico69 are you able to get this drive to work in Windows? Gary has gave me a few different commands and it would be good if you could try them out to.
memdump E 91004F0 1 10 key.bin

memdump E A200 8 8000 test0.bin

memdump E 1A200 8 8000 test1.bin

memdump E 22200 8 8000 test2.bin

memdump E 8000 4 8000 int78.bin

change the drive letter for your PC

Hi Foaley,
I'll be happy to help out once I buy a longer SATA cable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I read your post straight after I'd put the bloody case back on ... ah well this weekend I should have more time to play around ... hope it is possible to flash without unsoldering the chip ... (fingers crossed).

- Fed.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on October 02, 2006, 10:23:00 AM

There has been many changes done to the new Hitachi GDR-3120L - Version: 0078fk drive.

#1: No "memdump" command works, totally new program needed

#2: Chip type has been changed to a 39VF020, so new "flashsec" program needed

#3: Black hard glue has been added covering all the chip pins and the controller pins.

#4: External "debug" triggering into ModeB has been removed.

What does all mean:

#1: The Team-X kit will no longer work on this drive.

#2: Dumping the firmware by software is currently not possible

#3: Wiring in a patching-on-the-fly "mod" would be very hard due to the "new black glue"

#4: Removing the flash chip to externally be read will destory the drive due to the "new black glue"

What options are left to us:

#1: Get more people working on this new drive, currently only in UK and Aussie.

#2: Destory at one drive to be able to dump the firmware, using a external programmer.

#3: Afterwards sitting down and re-writing all the programs: "memdump, firmcrypt, flashsec".

#4: If you can't wait, buy an older produced x360 console (Before Late July/Early Aug. dates).

That's all for now....

We are working on it....

Hopefully some poor soul will give us one personally...

So we can destory it and play with it for everyone else....

This post has been edited by garyopa: Oct 2 2006, 05:26 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 02, 2006, 11:51:00 AM

As I said in another thread, I'm glad that MS is releasing new firmware/new drives etc. to fight the hackers. It indicates that they have no plans/capability to fight people with the older drives and ban them from live or take other measures.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 02, 2006, 02:24:00 PM

It fucking doesn't, it just means that the battle has begun.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on October 02, 2006, 06:09:00 PM

So it's mainly this one new model of hitachi that's holding back double-stealthed firmware and the fine work of GaryOpa, Geremia, Maximus and others?

If I had that drive I would break the thing right now and send the chip.

May karma cause that chip to appear hastily.

Excellent work and much thanks for the flawless firmwares you've provided everybody with so far, guys.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 02, 2006, 10:18:00 PM

QUOTE(Hopeful @ Oct 3 2006, 09:46 AM)

I can sell you my drive for $600 AU then you can send it to Gary (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

here's a pic of the chip

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(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/foaley77/xbox%20360/Xbox%20Scene/IMG_0252redmark.jpg)

This post has been edited by foaley77: Oct 3 2006, 05:19 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: sp1200 on October 02, 2006, 10:36:00 PM

The dreaded black glue!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: xboxexpert on October 02, 2006, 11:07:00 PM

Since there is black glue on it that means that it CAN be hacked. MS wouldnt have wasted time putting black glue on it if it couldnt be hacked.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: BigSteel on October 02, 2006, 10:34:00 PM

QUOTE(xboxexpert @ Oct 3 2006, 05:38 AM)

Since there is black glue on it that means that it CAN be hacked. MS wouldnt have wasted time putting black glue on it if it couldnt be hacked.

Good point. Not to mention that MS and "can't be hacked" should never be used in the same sentence

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Heet on October 02, 2006, 10:36:00 PM

What you cant just dremel or drill down to the pins?

And to the guy who thinks this means they are beaten with the old drives. Think again, they are just tying up ends with the console, I think Live will be addressed eventually.

Wow sucks to be a 0078 owner lol.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ewok666 on October 02, 2006, 11:18:00 PM

QUOTE(OriginalCompGeek @ Oct 2 2006, 06:22 PM)

Actually no, that's not what it means.

BUT, it might mean that it might be difficult enough to detect the hack on the Xbox 360. If it was easy to do then why bother with the black glue? If it was easy to do, they could just slip a few lines of code into each game and it would not run on ANY modded drive.

I'm just really curious whether they'll be able to detect the modded Samsung but not the Hitachi....might be time to buy a spare Hitachi drive ;-)

Cheers

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: JohnnnyG on October 03, 2006, 12:07:00 AM

Is there any chance someone with one of these stoopid drives can post an image of the tray?

Thanks
JB

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 02, 2006, 11:54:00 PM

QUOTE(JohnnnyG @ Oct 3 2006, 03:08 PM)

Is there any chance someone with one of these stoopid drives can post an image of the tray?

Thanks
JB

They just look the same as any other Hitach drive just with different F/W.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: epsilon72 on October 03, 2006, 01:04:00 AM

QUOTE(BigSteel @ Oct 2 2006, 09:41 PM)

Good point. Not to mention that MS and "can't be hacked" should never be used in the same sentence

indeed

I wish I had the know how to help you guys out, but unfortunately I don't. I can only offer pathetic support like "Go team!" and "SCREW YOU M$!!!111"

good luck. I hope you guys get this whole thing worked out soon

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hami on October 03, 2006, 01:06:00 AM

I have a labprog+ programmer and the 14mm socket for these tsops.
Can anyone in the UK tell me where i can get a package with one of these drives? i will sacrafice a drive to try and remoxe the epoxy and dump the firmware.

Thanx

Hami

PS - my email is [email protected]

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spodie on October 03, 2006, 12:37:00 AM

QUOTE(Hami @ Oct 3 2006, 07:37 AM)

It wouldn't be too much of a sacrifice if Gary were to give you your drive key so you could replace the drive with one found on eBay.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: vitaminjayz on October 03, 2006, 01:14:00 AM

just a thought guys so dont flame me ,with the black glue cant u just solder from the otherside of the pcb or is it blank ive never seen it so cant comment .

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hami on October 03, 2006, 12:44:00 AM

QUOTE(Spodie @ Oct 3 2006, 07:44 AM)

It wouldn't be too much of a sacrifice if Gary were to give you your drive key so you could replace the drive with one found on eBay.

Yeah i know it wont be too much off a hassle of replacing the drive but i am not really concerned with that, i just want a unit so i can try get the epoxy of and dump the tsop.
Does anyone know if the 'black stuff' is just glue or is it like the stuff nokia use in their handsets to protect the UEM? Coz if its just glue, then surley it could be removed with my rework station (i doubt this though)

Cheers

Hami

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 03, 2006, 01:22:00 AM

Whats the earliest date anyone has for one of these drives ? My box was manufactured on 03/07/06 so Im unsure if I have one of these or not. What worries me most is going to get my box done, voiding my warranty and then finding I have a 78. Knowing my luck my box would then pack in before anyone sussed out how to flash this drive thus costing me a bomb to fix.

One question I have, can the keys still be extracted from the drive without removing the chip thus allowing potential poor souls to at least buy a replacement drive and be able to flash their key and xtreme firmware and just keep their 78 to one side for a rainy day ?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: epsilon72 on October 03, 2006, 12:48:00 AM

QUOTE(vitaminjayz @ Oct 2 2006, 11:45 PM)

just a thought guys so dont flame me ,with the black glue cant u just solder from the otherside of the pcb or is it blank ive never seen it so cant comment .

It's not that simple. Traces/pins on one side of a board won't necessarily be accessible from the other side. I've never done a 360 firmware hack though, just xbox1..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: RiPpN-N-TrIppN on October 03, 2006, 12:49:00 AM

QUOTE(bertiedugger @ Oct 3 2006, 07:53 AM)

there no way at current to grab the key
looks like your gonna have to wait
good to see M$ finally doing something about this hack
things get boring when its too easy give us a challenge

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: SOA on October 03, 2006, 01:28:00 AM

the earliest dat we have seen on the v0078FK is 24/8/2006....
we really need someone to get the Black shit off so we can do a complete firmware dump....

there must be a way to get that black glue shit off...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ZakMcRofl on October 03, 2006, 01:56:00 AM

I guess it is time to buy that 360 I've been planning to buy for christmas. This hasn't been spottet in EU yet, has it?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 03, 2006, 01:37:00 AM

QUOTE(RiPpN-N-TrIppN @ Oct 3 2006, 07:56 AM)

there no way at current to grab the key
looks like your gonna have to wait
good to see M$ finally doing something about this hack
things get boring when its too easy give us a challenge

Im sure peeps with a 78 could do without the challenge.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: anttimonty on October 03, 2006, 01:44:00 AM

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Oct 3 2006, 06:49 AM)

I can sell you my drive for $600 AU then you can send it to Gary

here's a pic of the chip

IPB Image

Doesn't that glue come off if you warm it up near 100°C? With most glues you don't even have to reach 100°C

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hami on October 03, 2006, 02:22:00 AM

Like is say, if anyone in the UK can tell me where i can buy of these units, then please contact me and i will start messing around with it. Ill try remove the 'black stuff' and dump the TSOP for garyopa to inspect the dump.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Neoistheone2000 on October 03, 2006, 02:45:00 AM

maby people will start buying games now and stop torrenting games (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) dont start that (i want to make a back up of my games, crap!)

on the other hand this is a violation of the DMCA (digital malinuem copyright act) and i dought this will be in the US sinse it is a US law so breath easyley US hacked firmware kids

we should also start to see more imported US consoles to those regions:P

QUOTE(anttimonty @ Oct 3 2006, 03:51 AM)

Doesn't that glue come off if you warm it up near 100°C? With most glues you don't even have to reach 100°C

most likley you would damage the PCB in the process or start to melt the solder (forgot the melting point for solder)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Martinchris23 on October 03, 2006, 03:17:00 AM

I think this pretty much proves that MS cannot defend against the FW hacks if this is their strategy. I wonder how many 'top-level' meetings were held on how to combat this - moreso how many people were given the boot because of the FW flaw on what's supposed to be a locked down console.

I would say those who have hacked drives should be pretty safe for a long time.....

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 03, 2006, 02:59:00 AM

QUOTE(bertiedugger @ Oct 3 2006, 04:23 PM)

Everyone that has this drive was made in August mine is the 25th so you might be lucky

are you in Aus or UK?

QUOTE(Hami @ Oct 3 2006, 05:23 PM)

Very nice of you

Mr Plow has one of these drives, he's in the UK maybe you could buy his, unless he sold it

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: anttimonty on October 03, 2006, 03:57:00 AM

QUOTE(Neoistheone2000 @ Oct 3 2006, 11:16 AM)

most likley you would damage the PCB in the process or start to melt the solder (forgot the melting point for solder)

Not likely I have removed glue many times from PCB with this procedure. The melting point depends on the used solder and it really doesn't matter if the solder starts to melt as you can always resolder.

This post has been edited by anttimonty: Oct 3 2006, 10:58 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: SOA on October 03, 2006, 03:57:00 AM

if the Aim is to safelt remove the chip (FW), my methord might work....but it will destroy your drive but you will be able to get the chip out succesfuly...

1. get a dremel and cut around the SST ship 1 cm around it ...
2. once you have the chip and the PCB stuct to in.... put the chip in a 120 DegreesC oven for about 10 mins....
3. after that just get glue off and you have a preficlty good FW chip which have the FW on it....

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Heet on October 03, 2006, 04:28:00 AM

If you could do that then you could get to the pins and wouldnt need to destroy the board.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: amexie on October 03, 2006, 04:52:00 AM

ms have gone to all this trouble with the new drive is that because they cant do anything about the older ones , cause why would they bring out a drive we cant flash if they could just fix the firmware patch with an upgrade

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: charis_k on October 03, 2006, 04:33:00 AM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Oct 2 2006, 07:30 PM)

It seems "garyopa" has a new toy now

SOON ,I believe, he will looking forward for a newer toy as the 78 will be history too!!

Thank you Gary. Thank you "ALL"...!!!!

PS: Thank you MS for this cool console too!!!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 03, 2006, 04:37:00 AM

QUOTE(amexie @ Oct 3 2006, 11:23 AM)

Don't assume too much.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: laurie on October 03, 2006, 04:52:00 AM

QUOTE(amexie @ Oct 3 2006, 11:23 AM)

I have to agree. If it was as simple as MS including a fw flash for hacked drives in an auto update then it would have been done, and before the time and money was put into this new drive. I would think they would have tried it long ago to be honest.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mksoftware on October 03, 2006, 05:08:00 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Oct 3 2006, 12:44 PM)

Don't assume too much.

Agreed.. remember, even if they can.. preventing people from doing it is enough for them..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 03, 2006, 06:16:00 AM

[quote name='foaley77' date='Oct 3 2006, 10:06 AM' post='3683522']
Everyone that has this drive was made in August mine is the 25th so you might be lucky

are you in Aus or UK?

UK. Im really hoping I dont have one but who can tell until they open and im wary of doing that and voiding my warranty for potentially no purpose at this time if I do have a 78.

Im sure M$ has done this to future drives to stop people playing backups full stop who would maybe keep their 360's well away from a network connection.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: midnightcharger2 on October 03, 2006, 06:41:00 AM

If m$'s answer is to epoxy the complete chip to keep people from hacking, this is a weak response on their behalf to the amount of effort they are going to go through to prevent people from hacking and furthermore their ablilites to stop existing people that have already flashed their existing drives. Really a shody way of craftmanship. Didnt work for the samsung, and wont work for the 0078fk.

I pity the poor souls that are slaving to put the new drives together and has to sit on a workbench all day with a sole purpose in life to apply expoy.

Nice comeback M$, LMAO

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: JUANVAN on October 03, 2006, 06:08:00 AM

Kinda sucks for you people there.. Wow and they are really going thru some junk to make sure you can't get ot the drive and Flash it.

I still think they can't combat the FW hack. If this is there method of doing it, making the FW harder to replace, then the white flag is up in the land of M$!

Gary - Good luck! I bet you are enjoying this challange ;-)

While you all wait for the resualts!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: DeaDSOuLz on October 03, 2006, 06:48:00 AM

Is this microsoft telling us they don't know how to combat the old drives? Why haven't they done any banning or upgrading to old drives via live?

--DS4081

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: 89c4l98 on October 03, 2006, 07:03:00 AM

First lets wait until the fall update. If there is no anti-firmware prevention I doubt ms will be able to stop / detect it but we will all see

If there is only a limited product of the the new drive you can still score and older unit with samsung or older hitach

People that are getting repair are still ending up with the same dvd drive. If ms put the new drive in every repair then we know that cant stop it.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Adam19 on October 03, 2006, 07:10:00 AM

Does anyone know the date when the update will be coming out?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: itchy on October 03, 2006, 07:14:00 AM

It's a cheap and easy update from M$ to thwart hackers. They probably released the drives in the UK and Australia due to the SH-D162C drives being widely available. We'll probably see these in the US near the Holidays.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: TheBiGW on October 03, 2006, 07:25:00 AM

Could Microsoft have stuffed themselves? If they've designed the dashboard in such a way that it physically cannot access hardware level resources (such as the DVD firmware for example) as a way of preventing dashboard hacks/exploits then they could be in a position where they can't do anything about the hack, other than make it more difficult for people to hack the physical drive (as they have done with the 0078fk).

Pure speculation but it would explain why they've let the hack run on for as long as they have.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Pikkon on October 03, 2006, 07:36:00 AM

QUOTE(TheBiGW @ Oct 3 2006, 07:56 AM)

Actually MS can flash on the fly thru Xbox Live,most of the chips on the 360 are flashable,but we have to wait unit the next update to really make sure what MS has in store for the firmware hack,software wise of course.

This post has been edited by Pikkon: Oct 3 2006, 02:37 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Havok on October 03, 2006, 07:36:00 AM

Guys there were 6 revisions of the Xbox 1 motherboard, this means nothing on what MS can do or not do to detect the current hacks.

In the past that have done both.. hardware changes AND softwre/console bans...

Why would this time be any different?

P.S. Each Xbox 1 revision made it more difficult but not impossible... I am sure the next version wont detected in windows at all.. Slax seeing it seems like a big loophole that will be closed next time.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: rrg on October 03, 2006, 07:44:00 AM

That black glue stuff does look like the stuff they use at Nokia.

This guy scrubbed the black epoxy glue stuff off a camera lense glued to a chip with an earbud and surgical spirits.

Take a look.

Before

After

This post has been edited by rrg: Oct 3 2006, 02:49 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Mana on October 03, 2006, 07:12:00 AM

QUOTE(rrg @ Oct 3 2006, 02:15 PM)

That black glue stuff does look like the stuff they use at Nokia.

This guy scrubbed the black epoxy glue stuff with an earbud and surgical spirits.
Take a look.

Before

After

heh looks like he made a right mess

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 03, 2006, 07:59:00 AM

If anyone thinks the only way M$ can combat hacked firmware is a bit of glue, then they must be bonkers ! They havent even showed their hand yet.

This post has been edited by bertiedugger: Oct 3 2006, 03:00 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: 89c4l98 on October 03, 2006, 07:29:00 AM

QUOTE(rrg @ Oct 3 2006, 02:15 PM)

That was a glue to hold the lens assembly on. This glue is to prevent hacking

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: sean on October 03, 2006, 08:12:00 AM

It is most likely an isophthalic polyester resin, they are chemically resistant and most importantly electrically non conductive. These resins are thermosetting that is to say once they have heated and cooled down they are largely unaffected by heat, say up to 300 -350 °C, much hotter than this and you will simply char the resin (and probably knacker the board in the process) You can only really remove it physically i.e. by chipping/cutting it off. If it is well adhered I dont fancy your chances of removing it without damage to the electrical components it is designed to protect.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: rasstar on October 03, 2006, 08:13:00 AM

I am glad M$ finally addressed this hack. They need to control piracy and stop all these pirates from downloading games from torrents and usenet.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: rrg on October 03, 2006, 08:26:00 AM

For those of you wanting to try to remove the resin epoxy the term used for doing this
is call "depotting" google it. There are some chemicals that can work to remove this depending
on what type they used. i.e. things like methylene chloride and perchloroethane, and formic acid.

But from what I have read so far, heat is a good start and see if it becomes soft and goooy.
Just food for thought.

This post has been edited by rrg: Oct 3 2006, 03:29 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Barcode on October 03, 2006, 08:45:00 AM

I didn't want to buy an Xbox 360 until late in Jan. Now this is making me want to buy a 360 right now so I don't encounter the impossibility of hacking. Can anyone tell me how soon we will see the new "unhackable" (yea right) drives in the US? I wanted to wait because I can't afford it and the rumors about a new cooler running processor plus the possibility of an updated xbox 360 or price cuts or packages was tempting. Any advice on this would be helpful. I guess I could always count on the fact that no matter what is done the 360 will always be hackable.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: aross6 on October 03, 2006, 08:56:00 AM

If you want my $.02, M$ is playing this very very smart. As bertiedugger stated (I would have quoted but for some reason when I hit the button the page keeps timing out, anyways...), people whose 360s have hacked firmware but keep their boxes isolated, that is not connected to the net whatsoever, will not be subject to a software update from big Bill. In turn, a direct hardware solution was the obvious route to take, i.e. the "new black glue," new programming so that existing software to implement hacked firmware could not be utilized, and so forth. As far as I am concerned, the next logical step taken by M$ would be to implement a software update (to prevent firmware hacks on older DVD drives) that is automatically initiated via playing a popular game that almost all 360 enthusiests would endulge in, say Gears of War or Halo 3 perhaps.

One thing is for sure though, the war between Redmond and the underground has most certainly begun!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Mana on October 03, 2006, 08:27:00 AM

QUOTE(Barcode @ Oct 3 2006, 03:16 PM)

i think u will be fine if u wait as a hack will eventually be developed, also u can always get a 2nd hand one if by january a hack has not been developed...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: epsilon72 on October 03, 2006, 08:45:00 AM

QUOTE(aross6 @ Oct 3 2006, 07:27 AM)

...As far as I am concerned, the next logical step taken by M$ would be to implement a software update (to prevent firmware hacks on older DVD drives) that is automatically initiated via playing a popular game that almost all 360 enthusiests would endulge in, say Gears of War or Halo 3 perhaps.

One thing is for sure though, the war between Redmond and the underground has most certainly begun!

Or maybe the fall (1080p) update perhaps?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: NCspecV81 on October 03, 2006, 08:53:00 AM

QUOTE(aross6 @ Oct 3 2006, 10:27 AM)

M$ wont have to wait for someone to play a popular game on xbl to initiate an update. They can just force the update upon anyone who connects to live and offer the disconnect warning if you dont update.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: aross6 on October 03, 2006, 09:00:00 AM

QUOTE(NCspecV81 @ Oct 3 2006, 11:00 AM)

But if you don't connect to XBL at all, i.e. don't even plug in your console to the internet, then they will have no way to force the update onto you and will be forced to take the route of implementing an update via popularly played games.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 03, 2006, 09:05:00 AM

QUOTE(NCspecV81 @ Oct 3 2006, 04:00 PM)

But some people will not connect to Live at all and so the only way M$ could force an update would be via game software as with GTA etc on the PSP.

Also with regards to people banging on about being glad M$ has come up with a way to stop firmware hacks, what about people who would rather replace their broken dvd themselves rather than coughing up £100 + for MS to replace is. Without access to the firmware people wont be able to get their 360 key.

At some stage in the future most are likely to have to replace their drive due to wear and tear. I am on my third dvd drive on my original xbox. Also with 3 kids all playing different games on it there are bound to be scratches to discs. I have had to back up games countless times due to scratched discs and there is no way I would cough up more dough to buy a game I had already purchased. For xbox that get multiple user heavy duty use backups are essential.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: igotgame on October 03, 2006, 09:51:00 AM

I have been waiting on doing the FW hack because I like to play on Xbox Live....a LOT!

but now...that they are coming out with a new DVD drive and such...it seems they may have no way to stop the old 360's from playing backup games online and everything.

Now might be the time to try out FW modding myself.

Hmmmmm...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: laurie on October 03, 2006, 09:58:00 AM

If the old Samsung or Hitachi are safe on live ie, MS cant see the firmware then they will soon cost a fortune to get hold of.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ricflairandy on October 03, 2006, 10:14:00 AM

Is there any kind of donation address setup to donate to buy one of these?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 03, 2006, 10:06:00 AM

QUOTE(laurie @ Oct 3 2006, 11:29 AM)

If the old Samsung or Hitachi are safe on live ie, MS cant see the firmware then they will soon cost a fortune to get hold of.

Good point, would be sweet if my sammy drive alone was worth $600+ on ebay

Maybe $1k for my 360.

But I wouldn't be selling it

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: BasicAir on October 03, 2006, 10:59:00 AM

Wow I should have woken up earlier. I don't have time now to read all the posts!

Anyway, I guess this officially means MS is still unable to have a solution for those who have hacked firmware? It seems like the logical conclusion...

I was certain they would have some way to fix all the flashed FW's out there, but I guess not.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on October 03, 2006, 11:02:00 AM

Jeezus wept!
I just get used to flashing MS28's, go on holiday & come back to 0078fk tales of woe.
Hopefully gary will have it cracked before i get to see one of these buggers.

Slim

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: spinr34 on October 03, 2006, 10:44:00 AM

QUOTE(ewok666 @ Oct 2 2006, 09:49 PM)

well, it has nothing to do with live and not being able to ban people. their main focus is to make money, that's what a business wants to do. microsoft (and every other company in the world) knows, they will lose money by people stealing product but how much is acceptable is always the issue at hand. every business is ready to lose x% but if they have the opportunity to minimize how much they lose then they'll do it. the black glue will stop x amount more people than no black glue and it costs them x amount more to put on it. basically black glue is cheaper than losing money to game sales because there will also be the x amount of people who are OK with not having live. so, bans for live could still be coming while them making it more difficult for new people to jump on the bandwagon.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: flbeserk on October 03, 2006, 11:21:00 AM

Modchips will not work right? like NME or something else?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: rasstar on October 03, 2006, 11:24:00 AM

QUOTE(spinr34 @ Oct 3 2006, 05:51 PM)

SOmething will happen before Gars of War. Remember what hapened when Halo 2 was released?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: manu_xl on October 03, 2006, 11:47:00 AM

plus pirates still have to pay to get on life ... so they are still making a little money with no blocking of FW hack. they also may not ban a lot of people because they want to win this console race!

finally i want to add that epoxy is as disgusting as DRM ;-)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 03, 2006, 12:02:00 PM

QUOTE(flbeserk @ Oct 3 2006, 05:52 PM)

Modchips will not work right? like NME or something else?

They probably would if you could remove that black epoxy shit.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: flbeserk on October 03, 2006, 11:38:00 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Oct 3 2006, 06:33 PM)

They probably would if you could remove that black epoxy shit.

well then i guess that woudld be the best way tot ry to dump the firmware?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Reddy on October 03, 2006, 12:18:00 PM

Is the earliest known manufacturing date for one of these still 2006-08-24 ?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: easye082 on October 03, 2006, 12:21:00 PM

If MS was really planning on blocking existing FW hacks...i really think they would have done something by now. I'm sure if they were going to do it, it wouldn't be so difficult for them to release a live update already. Or they could have started putting updates on newer games like Madden 07, Dead Rising, etc...like Sega used to do on Dreamcast (even though it didnt really work well then). I think they are downplaying it because its more of an underground thing..and they are still making $ off XBL with the modded 360's. I remember reading an article with a response from an MS rep saying they aren't making a really big deal about the hack...especially since it's not tremendously wide spread...it's pretty much just being used by enthusiast "hackers" for the most part. Plus they emphasized the whole piracy = non genuine MS products, not supported by MS, etc.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: j3y q on October 03, 2006, 12:24:00 PM

it all really comes down to money every business is in it for the money , what if microsft makes a chip to put on these new drive lol ik it will never happen again like i said they want to at least make a penny more than last year.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: thegreatandr on October 03, 2006, 12:28:00 PM

how long did the old xbox have hacked firmware in the samsung ver b drive did anyone ever get banned from that i dont think so but not sure and they never fixed it all they did was change the drives so maybe they cant fix the drives that are out now and flashed so they just put in new drives to stop it

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Math1 on October 03, 2006, 12:45:00 PM

It would be pretty naieve to extrapolate that they can't block existing firmware hacks just because they are now using physical methods to prevent new hacks from happening. The two are not related.

Look at it this way, it costs them very little to add a little glue on the board during assembly. Even if they make their holiday numbers and have 10,000,000 machines on the market by Christmas, that is only 10% of their long term sales goal. If they can easily and cheaply make it really difficult to do a firmware hack for 90% of their long term market, they would be foolish not to do it. The harder it is to do, the fewer casual users will do it -- leaving the hack only to hard-core pirates and folks who just like f'ing around with hardware. And that is a tiny percentage of the population.

On the software side, anything they do to block existing hacks is only addressing 10% of the potential market. So it is less important overall, and since it is software, is will be more prone to being overcome by more hacking. Given limited SW dev resources (Xbox is a small part of Microsoft after all), they are probably focusing on features and adding benefits for users rather than spending a ton of effort on rushing out a DVD firmware fix. Will they do it? Yes because they have to make the gesture to protect the sales of games for their partners. But it is, in the long run, less important than preventing future hacks.

I am guessing that we will find that the glue used is pretty tough to remove without queering the board, and that reflashing is now a LOT harder than before. We will probably also see a hammer come down on existing mods about the time that Gears of War comes out. Of the two, making the drive a pain in the butt to mod is more likely to have long term impact.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 03, 2006, 12:47:00 PM

QUOTE(thegreatandr @ Oct 3 2006, 06:59 PM)

Commodore only released that fw less than a year ago, and the 360 was already out when he did, so they probably just weren't bothered.

Most people who play backups on an xb1 do so through a hacked system kernel, which automatically gets you banned from Live and pretty much always has done.

This post has been edited by Spark: Oct 3 2006, 07:49 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 03, 2006, 12:53:00 PM

I'm not going to say MS cant block the firmware hacks. But i don't think it would be worth it. After all, they'd be losing a lot of extra money. I bought a vision camera, a headset, online arcade games and live. They're losing all my future online product purchases if they ban me, and online is bigger this generation.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gsharpshooter on October 03, 2006, 12:29:00 PM

i wish ms could fix the over heating problem more then the drives

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: rasstar on October 03, 2006, 01:07:00 PM

QUOTE(OriginalCompGeek @ Oct 3 2006, 07:24 PM)

You think MS cares about your $50.00? It's all about the integrity of the service and that's it. MS could care less about what you buy and don't buy.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Adam19 on October 03, 2006, 01:11:00 PM

Has MS actually banned anyone from using the firmware hack which c4e released on the original xbox?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MrPlow on October 03, 2006, 12:40:00 PM

QUOTE(Reddy @ Oct 3 2006, 06:49 PM)

Is the earliest known manufacturing date for one of these still 2006-08-24 ?

2006-07-04 UK

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 03, 2006, 01:21:00 PM

QUOTE(Adam19 @ Oct 3 2006, 07:42 PM)

Has MS actually banned anyone from using the firmware hack which c4e released on the original xbox?

No.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: -Gadget- on October 03, 2006, 02:04:00 PM

first thing a question.. i know that they have removed the ability to do a memdump, but have they also removed the ability to flash it with new firmware too ??? i expect they have otherwise as soon as theres a release it can be used so would be silly if they had'nt !
but if they HAVE, would'nt that kind of confirm that they dont intend to flash the drives at a later date via LIVE ?

also to add my view, i do believe that they CAN detect 'some' of these hacks, it may not be 100% accurate and due to this, they are just using the results that they CAN get as 'market research' so that they can asess the actual gain/loss thats happerning out in the field!? and then if this loss DOES get too great they will put more resource into it to defeat it ..

as in so the resource dont out weigh the gain etc ... all about money remember, plus now that the console can be 'modded' this is sometimes appealing to the consumer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

my thoughts anyhow !
whats yours ... Mick ....

This post has been edited by -Gadget-: Oct 3 2006, 09:07 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Gosurf101 on October 03, 2006, 01:30:00 PM

QUOTE(rasstar @ Oct 3 2006, 02:38 PM)

You think MS cares about your $50.00? It's all about the integrity of the service and that's it. MS could care less about what you buy and don't buy.

They care about $50.00, that shit adds up 120,000x50 thats 6 mil a moth.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 03, 2006, 01:37:00 PM

QUOTE(rasstar @ Oct 3 2006, 02:38 PM)

You think MS cares about your $50.00? It's all about the integrity of the service and that's it. MS could care less about what you buy and don't buy.

Actually that's $100, and it's not the last of the online services/accessories I will buy. It adds up.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: SuRgEx360 on October 03, 2006, 03:39:00 PM

looks like its game over for any other DVD firmware mods.

will the xbox360 ever get hacked properly ?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Mana on October 03, 2006, 03:06:00 PM

QUOTE(SuRgEx360 @ Oct 3 2006, 10:10 PM)

looks like its game over for any other DVD firmware mods.

will the xbox360 ever get hacked properly ?

why is it gameover, once gary gets the firmware read (once someone gets the chip out of the black glue) he can then analyse it and make new flashing tools.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: sofa king dumb on October 03, 2006, 03:14:00 PM

now the price of moddable/premods will increase

(at least i already got mines)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: echto on October 03, 2006, 03:17:00 PM

QUOTE(SuRgEx360 @ Oct 3 2006, 02:10 PM)

looks like its game over for any other DVD firmware mods.

will the xbox360 ever get hacked properly ?

Define properly.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: monkeyflungpoo on October 03, 2006, 04:03:00 PM

he probably means homebrew able to run

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Team Modfreakz on October 03, 2006, 04:03:00 PM

hallo,

anyone want to exchange a v59 drive for a v78 drive?
I have all the hardware equipment to dump the firmware and remove the epoxy!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ector on October 03, 2006, 04:32:00 PM

QUOTE(-Gadget- @ Oct 3 2006, 08:35 PM)

If there's no way to memdump, I can't see how flashing will work at all, since you have to get the key out first... otherwise you'll be sitting there with a brick, right?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dinzy on October 03, 2006, 05:11:00 PM

QUOTE(xboxexpert @ Oct 3 2006, 05:38 AM)

Since there is black glue on it that means that it CAN be hacked. MS wouldnt have wasted time putting black glue on it if it couldnt be hacked.

Not necessarily. The glue may just make it more difficult to get at the drive's key and swap it for another more FW freindly one.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 03, 2006, 05:17:00 PM

QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Oct 4 2006, 07:04 AM)

hallo,

anyone want to exchange a v59 drive for a v78 drive?
I have all the hardware equipment to dump the firmware and remove the epoxy!

Quick someone give this guy a 78 so I can put my xbox back together
Team Modfreakz where are you from?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: AbRASiON on October 03, 2006, 05:24:00 PM

The question is, does this new drive add anything in regards to bloody drive noise?!

Can't wait till games can be loaded on the HDD.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Woore on October 03, 2006, 05:33:00 PM

You guys JUST WAIT. give it some time its not easy to just hack a F/W

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bonsc2 on October 03, 2006, 06:04:00 PM

Well i think i might buy a backup drive now just incase.So were can you get them and how much

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Team Modfreakz on October 03, 2006, 06:40:00 PM

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Oct 4 2006, 12:48 AM)

Quick someone give this guy a 78 so I can put my xbox back together
Team Modfreakz where are you from?

Im from germany.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: 1337 pig on October 03, 2006, 07:10:00 PM

QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Oct 3 2006, 07:11 PM)

Im from germany.

So they are in europe to? i hope they dont have them in the US for while. I got 2 friends that are gona buy 360's in a month or so and i was give them a flashy but i hope this dont interfere (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: downlowfunk on October 03, 2006, 07:37:00 PM

QUOTE(Math1 @ Oct 3 2006, 07:16 PM)

Dude YOur stupid as hell. that was a waste of your 10 minutes of typing. Its more exspensive to and change manufacturing specs, than to do a software update. Your dumb as hell. Xbox is a small part of Microsoft?? I don't belive this one bit. Your stupid.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gboshort on October 03, 2006, 07:41:00 PM

QUOTE(downlowfunk @ Oct 3 2006, 08:08 PM)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Pot to kettle: "Black!"

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bunghoolio on October 03, 2006, 07:41:00 PM

Just a thought about that black epoxy sh*t. I used an ARLEC ENGRAVER (side of tip, NOT point) to expose the pins on a Sammy drive bios. The side of my engraver tip cut the epoxy away like butter! You keep pressing until it feels and sounds different. (Hits metal pin on bios) Then you have nice bare metal to solder wires to. Anyone tried using ARLEC ENGRAVER on this black epoxy?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: echto on October 03, 2006, 07:57:00 PM

Some philosophy about the black stuff.

There has been nothing made by man that man or nature could not destroy.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: halomasta203 on October 03, 2006, 07:58:00 PM

Ahh, this sucks. Hope they don't start requiring a FW update through XBL, because I still wanted to play a few games I own on XBL and have some other backed up games playable on my box. I was looking forward to the Blaster 360 too.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bourke on October 03, 2006, 08:10:00 PM

QUOTE(ector @ Oct 4 2006, 08:03 AM)

If there's no way to memdump, I can't see how flashing will work at all, since you have to get the key out first... otherwise you'll be sitting there with a brick, right?

No, the drive firmware hacks are a 'hack once', 'run everywhere' solution - once you have dumped and successfully patched one copy of the firmware you should be able to flash (patch) only the necessary parts of the firmware on other drives.

I think that's how GaryOPA's current (2.1) flasher works?

So you don't have to backup the drive key at all (although obviously it'd be a bloody great idea anyway!)

This post has been edited by bourke: Oct 4 2006, 03:10 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: D@rio on October 04, 2006, 12:44:00 AM

.

after PSP, downgrade also on x360!!!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 04, 2006, 01:18:00 AM

QUOTE(D@rio @ Oct 4 2006, 07:15 AM)

if the hardware is the same as ol LG drives, i think we can read the eeprom with an external programmer (like willem), extract the key, put it into an older FW (0047, 0059, etc.) and write it to a new eeprom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .

after PSP, downgrade also on x360!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)

Im confused now, please bear with me.

So far with this drive we have no way to get our key through software ? Will this become possible once someone has removed the chip ?

If that isnt possible then we have a situation where we couldnt replace with other drives and if the flash goes wrong then the xbox is a complete brick ?

Has anyone got or is in the process of getting one of these drives to someone who has experience to get the chip out ?

QUOTE(MrPlow @ Oct 3 2006, 07:47 PM)

2006-07-04 UK

Awww crap, I reckon im a cert to have one in my unopened 2006-07-03 UK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Will anyone in UK with a Hitachi drive after at least 2006-07-04 have one of those drives for certain or will there still be other model Hitachi mixed in with them ?

This post has been edited by bertiedugger: Oct 4 2006, 08:13 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 04, 2006, 01:29:00 AM

QUOTE(bertiedugger @ Oct 4 2006, 04:19 PM)

Im confused now, please bear with me.

So far with this drive we have no way to get our key through software ? Will this become possible once someone has removed the chip ?

Once Gary has the key he should be able to bring out software that will do it the normal way.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 04, 2006, 02:03:00 AM

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Oct 4 2006, 08:00 AM)

Once Gary has the key he should be able to bring out software that will do it the normal way.

Cool. I guess as long as we can obtain our keys from the drive then worst case scenario we have to get hold of an older drive from ebay, or some god of modding will figure out a way to get a stock pc dvd drive to work with the 360 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Exobex on October 04, 2006, 02:15:00 AM

I hate to be all doom and gloom, but it may be that the 0078 firmware has no flash support routines at all. It could be manufactured with a flashable firmware at the factory, then flashed with one that has no flash routines when the key is programmed.

If this is the case, the black stuff's got to come off and the chip programmed directly (either in situ or off-the-board), at least the first time (if the chip was flashed with a 0059-based firmware it would then be flashable as normal).

Also, in a similar way to that in which "stealth" firmware lies to the reader about what's actually there (giving what looks like a genuine firmware by lying about what's at the hacked sections of the code) the 0078 firmware might respond with all zeroes, all FFs, random junk or nothing at all!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MarKeR1971 on October 04, 2006, 02:38:00 AM

QUOTE(bertiedugger @ Oct 4 2006, 07:49 AM)

Has anyone got or is in the process of getting one of these drives to someone who has experience to get the chip out ?
Awww crap, I reckon im a cert to have one in my unopened 2006-07-03 UK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Will anyone in UK with a Hitachi drive after at least 2006-07-04 have one of those drives for certain or will there still be other model Hitachi mixed in with them ?

Hi Mate
I got one 2006-07-27 and it was a 59DJ, think I might have been hell of a lucky though by the sounds of things, even then there was some unusual things happening with theflash routine and opa2.1.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 04, 2006, 02:43:00 AM

QUOTE(MarKeR1971 @ Oct 4 2006, 09:09 AM)

Where are you UK ? There maybe a slight glimmer of hope for me after all then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Master_Yoda69 on October 04, 2006, 02:56:00 AM

I'm in the UK and got 2 Hitachi's yesterday both dated 9-8-06 no idea of what type of Hitachi's they were though as they flashed fine and I didn't bother checking as I didn't realise there was a problem with any of the Hitachi's until I read this post.
just thought I would add my dates of drives for people as it seems they were obviously not rom version 0078fk if I was able to do them.

Cheers

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 04, 2006, 04:24:00 AM

QUOTE(echto @ Oct 4 2006, 02:28 AM)

Some philosophy about the black stuff.

There has been nothing made by man that man or nature could not destroy.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Oh it could be removed, the issue is removing it without killing the board.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Arch0n on October 04, 2006, 05:22:00 AM

QUOTE(halomasta203 @ Oct 4 2006, 02:29 AM)

Don't worry man, just use the originals that you made your backups from on live (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: sguilly on October 04, 2006, 05:29:00 AM

QUOTE(bertiedugger @ Oct 4 2006, 07:49 AM)

You might be alright, have just flashed a friends machine this weekend that he bought last week in the UK, Xbox has the date 2006-07-01 on the back of the case and had a Hitachi 59DJ June 06 drive in it.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: wilx on October 04, 2006, 06:05:00 AM

Can the People in the Uk say which stores they have received good and bad drives from and when purchased please? This might help to give us a clue what batches they have at the stores currently

Thanks

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ricflairandy on October 04, 2006, 07:45:00 AM

QUOTE(wilx @ Oct 4 2006, 12:36 PM)

Same here, i really want one that plays backups. I was waiting on a free one from a freebie site, but wont have it untill the end of the month. Id rather buy one that can play backups now, and then sell that one on ebay at the end of the month when it arrives.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MnC! on October 04, 2006, 08:18:00 AM

The tsop including the glue can be easily removed by a "weller pyropen".

Replacing it might be a little harder for some but if you quite handy it takes about +-10mins.
And since someone in this thread claimed the hardware did not change its just a matter of extracting
the firmware..

I replaced alot of tsop's with my pyropen with or without glue. This is a commenly used
trick used in satelite decoder's.

Sincerely, MnC!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 04, 2006, 10:01:00 AM

QUOTE(MnC! @ Oct 4 2006, 02:49 PM)

I think the problem at the moment is no one with the skill required has managed to get hold of one of these drives yet. Until that happens the picture is pretty sketchy.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Exobex on October 04, 2006, 10:28:00 AM

QUOTE(wilx @ Oct 4 2006, 12:36 PM)

Keeping the Xbox 360 Drive Database up-to-date would be a good start.
Got one from dabs.com this week, it's a week-12 one so relatively old. 5 more coming tomorrow, will put details on the database as soon as I open 'em!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MrPlow on October 04, 2006, 11:05:00 AM

QUOTE(sguilly @ Oct 4 2006, 12:00 PM)

I know I gave the date 2006-07-04, just bear in mind mine came direct from M$ here in the UK. I sent a faulty one in and got it as a replacement. So mine wasn't store stock. Not sure if it makes a diffrence. It seems there are people with man dates later than mine have got an earlier drive. So I think for the time being the only way to be sure on what drive you have is to crack it open.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Reddy on October 04, 2006, 11:14:00 AM

QUOTE(Master_Yoda69 @ Oct 4 2006, 09:27 AM)

leaves some hope for me then as I brough one manufactured 2006-08-06, was saving it for xmas though

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on October 04, 2006, 11:49:00 AM

I got a Premium from Argos today
Mfr date was 13-03-2006
Was a sammy MS25
Was also last one they had in stock according to the stock checker.

Slim

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Exobex on October 04, 2006, 01:03:00 PM

QUOTE(slimgrip @ Oct 4 2006, 06:20 PM)

I got a Premium from Argos today
Mfr date was 13-03-2006
Was a sammy MS25
Was also last one they had in stock according to the stock checker.

Slim

Unusual lot and team numbers on your database submission, SG (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on October 04, 2006, 03:21:00 PM

QUOTE(bertiedugger @ Oct 4 2006, 04:32 PM)

I think the problem at the moment is no one with the skill required has managed to get hold of one of these drives yet. Until that happens the picture is pretty sketchy.

*I* think the problem is, no one wants to brick their 360

However, most likely it won't be bricked, right?

The person who rips their fw could give them the key back, to put on another drive?

...

Soooo, all that's holding back this awesome new double-stealthed firmware
is someone willing to go without a 360 drive for a couple of weeks...

Is that right?

This post has been edited by Hopeful: Oct 4 2006, 10:29 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on October 04, 2006, 03:57:00 PM

*I* think the problem is, no one wants to brick their 360

However, most likely it won't be bricked, right?

The person who rips the fw could get the key, and trade the doner a new working drive, right?

...

Soooo, all that's holding back this awesome new double-stealthed firmware
is someone willing to go without a 360 drive for a couple of weeks...

Is that right?

This post has been edited by Hopeful: Oct 4 2006, 11:02 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mabcom on October 04, 2006, 04:21:00 PM

if there is someone in the netherlands that have a xbox 360 with the 0078 hitatchi i am willing to trade it for another xbox 360 with a sammy or older hitatchi drive

this has to be worked out soon as possible

also we can also start a donation account for Garyopa so he can buy one and also have some $$$ for all the time and support he put in

common people lets do it only 1 euro/dollar a person is enough to let GARYOPA DO HIS JOB

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: halomasta203 on October 04, 2006, 05:43:00 PM

QUOTE(mabcom @ Oct 4 2006, 10:52 PM)

I would be interested in that if there is a donation site or something along those lines. I have not actually used any of his FWs, but in the future I might.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hooligan69 on October 04, 2006, 06:49:00 PM

Puchased a core pack from Argos yesterday (3rd October) and it was a ms25 Samsung drive.
Sorry didnt make a note of the drive or manufacture date, and i sold it this afternoon.
Argos was in Ashford, Kent, UK. they had 20 in stock at the time.

Good luck GaryOpa, I like the idea of the donation fund people, lets help this guy any way possible.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Dick_Trickle on October 04, 2006, 07:02:00 PM

The second papa gary, and I do have an Opa Gary! comes out with a bulletproof way around the June batch of 59's my wallet is all his.. unfortunately theres not a whole hell of a lot in it till my student loans come in at the end of October, but I do think this a good idea. I have yet to benefit from his work, or anyone elses, but I have noticed many people have after reading a few days worth of posts.

I admire his determination, if only I applied much energy in my pursuits in chemistry.. well.. I could be a well rounded individual with a doctorate in gaming while performing dangerous reactions = D

Wouldn't be the first time

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: phanatic1 on October 04, 2006, 07:14:00 PM

If GaryOPA has a paypal account, i'd happily donate 20 bucks to it. I have a samsung drive, but I definitely appreciate all the hard work he has put into the scene. Think about it, it would only take 20 people to donate 20 dollars each, and you'd be pretty close to having a console to mess around with.

Just a thought.....

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 04, 2006, 07:23:00 PM

QUOTE(Exobex @ Oct 5 2006, 01:29 AM)

I will put my 0078 there soon.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 04, 2006, 07:40:00 PM

QUOTE(Hopeful @ Oct 5 2006, 06:22 AM)

That's right I don't want my drive bricked plus it cost to much to send to Canada.

I'm happy to give Gary some money though so he can get this drive.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 05, 2006, 01:06:00 AM

Im up for donating to get one of these drives to Gary. It has to be worked on or there are going to be a lot of peeps dead in the water.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: DeanoUK on October 05, 2006, 03:16:00 AM

I've added an article on The INQUIRER about this if you wish to read:

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34864

Should certainly bring more attention to the issue.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Tim-Cahill-is-a-Savage on October 05, 2006, 06:12:00 AM

If I went into a shop and had a look at the box, where does it say the manufacture date?

Is there anyway to know for sure without validating warranty? Do shops check warranty if I do open it and have a look?

In UK.

Thanks.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: vintage_guitar on October 05, 2006, 06:23:00 AM

what is the composition of this "black glue" ? perhaps blowdryer + isopropyl alchohol might remove it? does anybody know?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Mana on October 05, 2006, 08:22:00 AM

QUOTE(vintage_guitar @ Oct 5 2006, 12:54 PM)

what is the composition of this "black glue" ? perhaps blowdryer + isopropyl alchohol might remove it? does anybody know?

2% kryptonite!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: aross6 on October 05, 2006, 08:51:00 AM

QUOTE(Mana @ Oct 5 2006, 09:53 AM)

2% kryptonite!

Microsoftonite!!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bobbyblaze on October 05, 2006, 10:15:00 AM

Hey Guys!!!

I was gonna wait until christmas to purchase a 360 but this news has spurred me on and I did some checking today and found a 360 with a 0626 Pak date.

Will this mean I'm sure not to get one of these new bogus drives and can flash away??

Please reply as I've read the last 13 pages and remember that date but who knows what new information has come to light since then?

Thanks in advance chaps!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: OriginalCompGeek on October 05, 2006, 10:23:00 AM

You can be pretty sure, you may even have a nice MS25 in there.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Exobex on October 05, 2006, 11:38:00 AM

Another five 360s arrived from dabs.com this morning, all premium packs, all with codes between 0613 and 0620 so if you're after one and you're in the UK, they look like a pretty good bet.

Will add them to the database once they're all opened!

If an 0626 pack's got a Samsung, I'd expect a not-so-nice ms28 in there!
(had 4 in a row on Sunday evening - Grrrr....)

This post has been edited by Exobex: Oct 5 2006, 06:44 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: DrTek on October 05, 2006, 11:48:00 AM

The Black Glue is made of pure HELL

only bill gates can remove it with his own BLOOD

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ricflairandy on October 05, 2006, 12:27:00 PM

ive just got a premium with gotham, table tennis and extra controller.

Date is 0420 i think. ITs definitly 04 somthing. i take it im good?

it is a samsung, is that good?

This post has been edited by ricflairandy: Oct 5 2006, 07:39 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Dick_Trickle on October 05, 2006, 01:18:00 PM

I dont want to say I can do something and then not come through, so I wont, BUT if you have access to a GCMS, Gas Chromatography to Mass Spectrometry system, like many available in nearly 90% of the labs in the college and university department, you can find out exactly what the resin is, and how to remove it safely without damaging the silicon circuit board or circuits.

I would start by getting a very small sample of the resin in a test tube and find out which solvents will eat the stuff up disolve completely in the solvent. Figure out how much solvent is needed to disvolve how much mass of the resin.

Solvents I would start with would be Acetone. Available at nearly every hardware store and usually 99.93% pure, with the other .07% being H20 from the air.

Acetone is great for disolving resins. I would walk a thin line though, acetone can eat through plastic so a very small amount to test the edibility of this mystery resin would be suffice.

I dont know if I even have the resin on my drive. I havent been able to get the Birdy flasher.exe to work, however I did get windows to recognize the drive, but as I stated before in my 2nd or 3rd post here, the tray door would not shut. It would shut for a few seconds and then open again. So the flasher.exe would not recognize it, despite windows recognizing it.

The drive is a Hitachi GDR-3120L v59 born in June 06

I dont know how to figure out if it is "v0078FK" or "39VF020" Maybe someone can help me out on that.

Regardless, from what I gather here is that there hasn't been any Hitachi GDR-3120L v59 hacked that were born from June to date. If I am wrong, please someone correct me. I know it's a matter of time, but would like to get an idea as to how soon!! I need some extra cash till my student loans come in and I have ten 360 games I would love to backup!

-Trickle.. Dick Trickle

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hawkk on October 05, 2006, 01:36:00 PM

MS could have one more big surprise up their sleeves. The firmware for this new drive could be signed.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 05, 2006, 02:06:00 PM

QUOTE(Dick_Trickle @ Oct 5 2006, 07:49 PM)

It's a V59 not a v78, you answered your own question there.

You can flash it.

This post has been edited by Spark: Oct 5 2006, 09:07 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bobbyblaze on October 05, 2006, 04:09:00 PM

So no-one had a v78 with a 0626 pak date, eh?

Good news but (if it's not a noob question and we're all friends here, right?) what's the difference between Samsung ms25's and ms28's?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bobbyblaze on October 05, 2006, 05:47:00 PM

okay ms28's are bad news

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Xb0XmAn on October 05, 2006, 06:38:00 PM

ms28 are flashed easy, please search the board. Lets keep this important thread ontopic!

I ordered a few 360's and will have them tomorrow, I live in the NL and will let u know if theres any v78

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 05, 2006, 11:24:00 PM

He's a high res Pic of the 0078 F/W chip

http://www.adam.com.au/foaley77/IMG_0252%20high%20res.jpg

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 06, 2006, 12:45:00 AM

The more I think about this black glue the more I think each chip would have to be removed at the very least to enable this drive to be flashed. Why on earth would they even bother putting this glue on if it meant just one chip had to be removed and read to enable all the drives to be flashed via software ?

I just dont think they would have bothered.

God I really hope I dont have one of these, but Im afraid to look

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ricflairandy on October 06, 2006, 02:59:00 AM

whats the difference with m28 m25 etc and how do you know if you have one.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: davbere on October 06, 2006, 03:39:00 AM

QUOTE(foaley77 @ Oct 6 2006, 05:55 AM)

He's a high res Pic of the 0078 F/W chip

http://www.adam.com.au/foaley77/IMG_0252%20high%20res.jpg

That definatly looks like a 2 part epoxy resin. From the looks of it it was applied to the board with a loose consitancy allowing it to flow around the legs. Heat will definatly weaken and crystalyze the epoxy but a clean removal will probably be very time consuming.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: wilx on October 06, 2006, 03:54:00 AM

So how does this packing date work? please can someone explain. Someone said they had 0626 Pak date., but someone said 04xx, so it the first 2 digits the year? What pak dates do we asume to be OK?

To those who are usure, if you heat the microsoft security seal (hologram thing) up with a hair drier, you can get off in one piece and replace if needed , they wont even know you have been in there! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ... thought this may help!

Any info on pak dates appreciated

Thanks

This post has been edited by wilx: Oct 6 2006, 10:55 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on October 06, 2006, 04:09:00 AM

QUOTE(Exobex @ Oct 4 2006, 07:34 PM)

Unusual lot and team numbers on your database submission, SG (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Thats coz i shipped it out after flashing which was before i made that post.
So i hadnt got the relevant info to hand.

Slim

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Killa31 on October 06, 2006, 05:40:00 AM

can someone tell me if this drive is in Canada. buying my 360 today and dont wanna get some stupid one where i cant put new firmware

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on October 06, 2006, 05:49:00 AM

If you do get one you could send it to GaryOPA as hes in Canada too

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Killa31 on October 06, 2006, 08:46:00 AM

can someone tell me if they have the new drives in their xbox 360s

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: XLNC on October 06, 2006, 09:10:00 AM

I'm thinking of getting a 360 but don't want to get the new DVD drive, how can I find out what date the xbox was manufactured without opening it up, if it's on the console like it was on the original then I can ask at the shop.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on October 06, 2006, 09:23:00 AM

Theres a small window on the 360 packaging that allows you to see the serial# mfr date etc
Ask the shop attendant if you can check those out before you buy.

Slim

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: XLNC on October 06, 2006, 09:29:00 AM

Thanks I'll be getting as soon as I can.

What dates should I be looking out for?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 06, 2006, 09:59:00 AM

QUOTE(slimgrip @ Oct 7 2006, 12:24 AM)

Theres a small window on the 360 packaging that allows you to see the serial# mfr date etc
Ask the shop attendant if you can check those out before you buy.

Slim

Wish I saw that window when someone gave me there 0078 to flash (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: parat8t9 on October 06, 2006, 10:00:00 AM

QUOTE(laurie @ Oct 3 2006, 06:59 AM)

Ok I understand that microsoft makes money from selling games. They also make money from accessories, warranties, and xbox live. They make money from both the live arcade, people using microsoft points for pictures/themes, and subscription fees.

MAYBE they really don't care so much about people playing backups online because from what we've seen so far is you cannot modify game or "cheat" and play it on live. Another thing is if they ban someone it still will allow them to make and play backups so they would still be losing money on the games anyway so why not get money from xbox live purchases?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: laurie on October 06, 2006, 10:08:00 AM

QUOTE(parat8t9 @ Oct 6 2006, 04:31 PM)

You make a very good point. Stopping future mods could well be all they are doing. People already making backups will continue to do so with or without live. Banning would loose them money.
So yeah, I agree.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: jcdenton2003 on October 06, 2006, 01:17:00 PM

Hey just got my hands on one of these xbox's in the UK. im in the process of removing the black pox n thaught id check online to see if anyone else has done it.. Im starting to get down to the pins now, im using a dremel with a sanding attactment and a micro file works great! Im Suprised that noone has stepped forward to do this yet?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on October 06, 2006, 02:13:00 PM

What you gonna do when u get it off??

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 06, 2006, 02:48:00 PM

QUOTE(slimgrip @ Oct 6 2006, 08:44 PM)

What you gonna do when u get it off??

Hopefully get it hooked up to a programmer, download the firmware, get it to Garyopa who hopefully even if the firmware cant be hacked can at least get some software to at least enable people to get their drive key out of it.

Anything less than that is a knockout punch from M$.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 06, 2006, 03:08:00 PM

Be careful removing that black shit, if it was easy then a hundred people on here would have done it already.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on October 06, 2006, 03:49:00 PM

Wait... so everyone wants this amazing new firmware to come out...

But no one is willing to swap their drive to make it happen?

We're just going to try and AVOID the drive?

Swappers will be traded a new drive that IS flashable right?
Are they not even willing to pay postage for that?
Even to protect a library full of delicate $60 Games?

I mean unless one 78FK person actually SWAPS, they'll never GET xtreme firmware, no MATTER how much actionless 'patience' they have, right?

Would little donations even DO anything since there's no way to guarantee getting this drive?

Until a 78FK person actually MAILS IN HIS DRIVE, or the chip, this awesome new firmware won't come out for *anyone*, right?

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, the donator will recieve their key back inside a different hitachi, right?
It will work on his 360 just like the original drive, plus be flashable, right?
I don't see why EVERYBODY with this drive isn't willing to swap.

I don't see why anyone even bothers to make these firmwares for people.

That's just what I noticed.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Mana on October 06, 2006, 07:23:00 PM

the community needs to get moving on this, m$ cannot win this round!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on October 06, 2006, 08:12:00 PM

QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Oct 7 2006, 04:18 AM)

This is Excellent News, hope it goes well

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: SOA on October 06, 2006, 09:16:00 PM

M$ has hit australia Hard this time... i went to 8 Different stores and all of them had lot no 0634 or above so u will get a 0078FK if u buy an xbox from the shops now... i got mine today and it is a 0078Fk as well:
if what EVOBEX says is true ms could have remopved the flash routines from the FW so hence it will be impossiable to flash the chip without removing it fron the DVD drive....
I really hope this is not the case and GARY_OPS figures out that the flash routines have just been moved then he will be able to rewrite the memdump ect....

All i have is hope...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: outbreaks on October 06, 2006, 09:48:00 PM

UK and Australia are both PAL right?

SO will this mean all PAL countries will have these. I live in New Zealand and I wana get one but Im unusre if I will get that same drive (I am guessing I will, but would like to know for 100%) Thanks

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Fistcat on October 06, 2006, 10:40:00 PM

Well, if you look at the ms28 samsung drives it is impossible to flash/dump the firmware without removing a resistor and wiring in a switch. This also means M$ can not do it as well as it is impossible for them. I would assume that they dont intend on detecting or flashing FW because they have physically locked themselves out. I would say if they do anything it would have to be some type of media/game verification then they will still loose because new FW can be written to give the right info. It might be a good idea for people with earlier drives to come up with something the same as is on the ms28 to prevent the console dumping the FW, 3 wires and a few resistors would lock out even M$!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on October 07, 2006, 02:32:00 AM

QUOTE(Fistcat @ Oct 7 2006, 05:11 AM)

Well, if you look at the ms28 samsung drives it is impossible to flash/dump the firmware without removing a resistor and wiring in a switch.

It isnt impossible, havent you heard of the "bad flash recovery" method? Much safer & quicker than the VCC soldering trick.

Slim

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Fistcat on October 07, 2006, 06:22:00 AM

The first ms28's that came out a little while back were able to be flashed using VIA and bad flash recovery, i have done quite a few of them. Last week and this week i also did a few brand new ones with the most recent build date i have seen and was unable 2 use that method and had 2 use VCC solder trick. I should get a few more this week as well and i will take note of the build date.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: xmgr on October 07, 2006, 06:27:00 AM

goddamit I've been to 3 shops in stevenage already and they all have manf dates around 2006-08-05 I'm guessing that means august and not may

I'm gonna have to ask if they will let me crack one open but I'm guessing I won't find a sammy inside

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 07, 2006, 06:40:00 AM

QUOTE(xmgr @ Oct 7 2006, 12:58 PM)

goddamit I've been to 3 shops in stevenage already and they all have manf dates around 2006-08-05 I'm guessing that means august and not may

I'm gonna have to ask if they will let me crack one open but I'm guessing I won't find a sammy inside

I dont think they have stopped using the Samsung have they ? Even if it is a Hitachi its not guaranteed to be a 78. The only way you could be 100% sure your drive could be flashed before purchasing though is to find a shop that would let you check the drive trays to see if any were Samsung. If you do walk out with a Hitachi then you will only know where you stand if you crack the console open.

Going to have mine looked at by Slimgrip in a short while so knowing my luck expect another report of a 78 in the UK.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Mana on October 07, 2006, 08:10:00 AM

QUOTE(Fistcat @ Oct 7 2006, 12:53 PM)

so m$ could be making dumping the fw on NEW ms28s even harder!!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: aanj on October 07, 2006, 10:14:00 AM

Is it necassery to remove the whole chip ?
I remember from flashing chips for Satellite reception you don't need all the connections .
Why not clear only the connections you need te read and write (data sheet)
Solder wires on them and connect them to a programmer .

Ad

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on October 07, 2006, 10:16:00 AM

QUOTE(bertiedugger @ Oct 7 2006, 01:11 PM)

Lo & Behold Berties drive was a 59d, so he left mine a very happy chappy

Slim

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Reddy on October 07, 2006, 02:51:00 PM

QUOTE(slimgrip @ Oct 7 2006, 04:47 PM)

Lo & Behold Berties drive was a 59d, so he left mine a very happy chappy

Slim

what was the manudacturing date on this bertie?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: sarge123 on October 07, 2006, 03:41:00 PM

As the dvd is keyed to the motherboard of the 360 there must be a chip on the motherboard with this key on it. Assuming this is true would it not be possable to remove the tsop from a working xbox that we know the key for and copy it then it would just be a case of buying a flashable drive from ebay.

so what i need to know is
A: Is the tsop readable and copyable with an external programmer
B: is the key even stored there
c: Am i just talking bollox

anyway have ordered a programmer and adaptor to find out will post any finding as soon as it arrives from china

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 07, 2006, 03:47:00 PM

QUOTE(slimgrip @ Oct 7 2006, 04:47 PM)

Lo & Behold Berties drive was a 59d, so he left mine a very happy chappy

Slim

Indeed I did sir, yer a legend. All is right with the world once more.

Pioneer 111d here I come. Whooo hoooo !

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: KIPPERMAN32 on October 07, 2006, 06:50:00 PM

QUOTE(sarge123 @ Oct 7 2006, 10:12 PM)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: SOA on October 07, 2006, 07:02:00 PM

Today i went to check some more stores for an old xbox 360's...
and the lot no. are at 06-08-36 on all of them....
where does the australian stock come from....
did m$ do a Recall on the older 360's ?????

yet i am here stuck with a 0078FK and waiting for someone to hack it.....

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: SOA on October 07, 2006, 07:46:00 PM

Do you guys still believe it is still possiable to hack the 0078FK ....

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gascp on October 08, 2006, 01:25:00 AM

in short ...
Y E S
it's only a matter of time.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bodone on October 08, 2006, 02:30:00 AM

just picked up a 606 from big w in sheffield, it's a hitachi, but with that lot number and a manufacture date of 2006-01-05 i guess i'm good.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on October 08, 2006, 07:43:00 AM

QUOTE(Reddy @ Oct 7 2006, 09:22 PM)

what was the manudacturing date on this bertie?

It was 03 July 2006. But I believe people have had Hitachi after that date that havent been 78's.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: XLNC on October 08, 2006, 12:19:00 PM

I'm not too sure on the date system on the xbox 360s, is it american or uk, what's 2006-08-07, is it august or july?

Btw I'm in the UK.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Spark on October 08, 2006, 12:24:00 PM

That's August 7th 2006.

They use the Japanese date system for some reason.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: XLNC on October 08, 2006, 12:26:00 PM

So it's most likely the new drive then.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Mr.INSANE on October 08, 2006, 02:00:00 PM

You Know what i dont want to be an ass but i Hope it Doesnt get Hacked.

Why? Aside from pirating nothing has been brought i dont support pirating so im not going to support any hacking done becuase none of it has lead to homebrew development. All this is is people using it becuase there cheap and cant afford a $50 dollar game when they just bought a $300 dollar system

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: sarge123 on October 08, 2006, 02:08:00 PM

To be honest I am not bothered if the drive get hacked or not all i want to achieve is the ability to repair the many xboxes with lost keys. The fact that microshit decide to make these repairs a no go area by locking the drives is just plain stupid because the cost of the console to make is greater than the price you pay for it therefore if you have to buy a new console then microsoft is losing money on it instead of a simple replacement rom.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Mana on October 08, 2006, 02:56:00 PM

QUOTE(Mr.INSANE @ Oct 8 2006, 08:31 PM)

get the **** out of this forum and keep your useless posts on the sesame street forums. some of us make backups of those $50 dollar games cos they are expensive.

i hope u get hacked

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: HELLTICK on October 08, 2006, 03:39:00 PM

QUOTE

You Know what i dont want to be an ass but i Hope it Doesnt get Hacked.

Why? Aside from pirating nothing has been brought i dont support pirating so im not going to support any hacking done becuase none of it has lead to homebrew development. All this is is people using it becuase there cheap and cant afford a $50 dollar game when they just bought a $300 dollar system

Say that when you have 2 year old toddler who thinks he's helping daddy by scrubbing the tile floor with his $50 game disks.
The first thing I do when I buy a game is back it up...only makes sense!

I think they should allow you to make a backup under controlled circumstances...
-buy the game.
-phone MS toll-free.
-give the serial # of game disk.
-give the serial # of console.

A-They give you a key that unlocks the game data allowing that burned disk to ONLY be played on the console of the given serial #.
B-They give you a key that unlocks the game data allowing you to rip to hdd to only be played on the console of the given serial #.

If your done with the game and wish to sell or trade...
-Phone MS toll-free.
-Give the serial # of game disk.
-Give the serial # of console.

They remove the marriage....allowing the whole process to be repeated for the new owner.
If the marriage isnt removed...when the new owner phones MS for request they will be declined and forced to play with original only.

Of coarse rental disks would have a serial # flag embedded and be declined upon request.

They dont replace scratched game disks ...so fuck 'em ...we have to find our own ways.
These games are expensive and no one wants to buy them twice.
Long live the hackers!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Gazcoigne on October 08, 2006, 06:17:00 PM

guys this is a technical thread please keep all opinions etc out of this topic this is not the place to start that old piracy argument.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: HELLTICK on October 08, 2006, 07:09:00 PM

How you find this thread technical is beyond me!
...But what ever.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on October 08, 2006, 11:13:00 PM

QUOTE(gascp @ Oct 8 2006, 07:56 AM)

in short ...
Y E S
it's only a matter of time.

IF someone ever mails a 78 to Gary
Instead of waiting for someone else to do it
which will never happen.

Without that the fw can't ever be made
I wouldn't quickly believe anyone saying they already did it, either.
If one of you has this drive and wants this fw, it's probably up to YOU to send your drive in.

Has any 78 chip or drive actually REACHED someone with an external programmer yet?

Can anyone guarantee a doner either:
A ) Getting the key back, so they won't have a brick
B ) The above, PLUS a newly keyed replacement drive
or
C ) Putting the chip back into the drive like new?

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Post by: HELLTICK on October 08, 2006, 11:35:00 PM

The answer is your Nick: Hopeful.

I as many others here have the programmer...but no drive!
Not that I want this drive to surface in my area..lol

I would love to have a go at that black epoxy tho...
is it the same as the clear on the early sammy's?

If so its a breeze...for epoxy removal anyway!
Can we dump the FW? this goes back to your Nickname!

Hopeful.

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Post by: wilx on October 09, 2006, 02:18:00 AM

HellTick, you say
"If so its a breeze...for epoxy removal anyway!"

how do you remove epoxy on say a Samsung then?

Thanks

Bought a 360 from Argos in Nottingham UK on sat, the drive is a Samsung, manufactured Jan 2006! (360 unit date about March I think) I opened her up to do the job, and noticed that the drive has been previously removed ( ie the silver sticker that is on the drive to the 360 metal work was broken). I assume it has been removed to put the epoxy on the flash chip! has anyone else seen this, or do you think mine is a repaired unit or something

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Post by: xmgr on October 09, 2006, 02:39:00 AM

Premium Unit bought Gamestation Stevenage UK.

MFG date 06-08-06

Samsung drive

Dunno what fw as I havent cracked it open yet.

what was that database link again?

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Post by: NCspecV81 on October 09, 2006, 08:20:00 AM

QUOTE(wilx @ Oct 9 2006, 03:49 AM)

ide check and make sure that 360 works and that you can play originals first. Sounds like someone done a nice switcheroo and implanted that 360 with a bricked drive

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Post by: wilx on October 09, 2006, 11:47:00 AM

No Ive done it and its fine, plays all my backups and seems ok

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Post by: bobbyblaze on October 09, 2006, 02:00:00 PM

Hey Guys,
what's the earliest version of this drive that's been found. I have yet to flash my drive (waiting for usb kit) and it's a hitachi and the manufacture date is 01 July 2006. Am I in the clear or what?

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Post by: Spark on October 09, 2006, 02:13:00 PM

That should be ok, most of the 78's seem to be in consoles with August dates.

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Post by: bobbyblaze on October 09, 2006, 03:53:00 PM

superskills. ta for the reply

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Post by: [email protected] on October 10, 2006, 03:32:00 AM

So if i go into a shop and demand to see the 360 out of the box before i buy it, i should be safe as long as its 1.july or earlier on the backside of the 360?

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Post by: toddgei on October 10, 2006, 04:21:00 AM

Is there anyway of telling from the box if it has the 78 drive in it???

I am wanting to buy one, but conditional on finding one that can be flashed.

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Post by: ash1471 on October 10, 2006, 04:33:00 AM

QUOTE([email protected] @ Oct 10 2006, 10:03 AM)

So if i go into a shop and demand to see the 360 out of the box before i buy it, i should be safe as long as its 1.july or earlier on the backside of the 360?

You can see the date and serial number without having to open the box.

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Post by: XLNC on October 10, 2006, 09:26:00 AM

There's a small window in the box which has the date and serial number, consoles before august 06 are fine.

Any news on this drive, I thought there were people who were working on it by removing the black glue and then using the programmer to read it.

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Post by: toddgei on October 10, 2006, 03:04:00 PM

I have a feeling that this will end up unsolved until the drive starts appearing in North America.

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Post by: garyopa on October 10, 2006, 05:33:00 PM

QUOTE(toddgei @ Oct 10 2006, 04:35 PM)

I have a feeling that this will end up unsolved until the drive starts appearing in North America.

A friend of my in UK with the right tools will be getting a v78 drive in his hands and once he has
removed the "black glue" and dump the firmware via an external programmer, he has promised
to email me over the contents here in the Great Canadian North (Toronto), and I will get to work
on it, and post the results of the progress.

Making a Xtreme version will be easy, but it will take a little longer time to code up new versions
of the "flashsec" and "memdump" programs.

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Post by: Adam19 on October 10, 2006, 06:00:00 PM

A friend of mine has just bought a 360, manufacturing date 03 july 06, do you think it will be ok or have one of these new drives?

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Post by: garyopa on October 10, 2006, 07:13:00 PM

QUOTE(Adam19 @ Oct 10 2006, 07:31 PM)

A friend of mine has just bought a 360, manufacturing date 03 july 06, do you think it will be ok or have one of these new drives?

So far I think only the ones with Manufacturing date of Aug or later will contain the new drive.

In Canada even on the Aug. units we are still seeing only the MS28 Samsung drives.

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Post by: foaley77 on October 11, 2006, 02:17:00 AM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Oct 11 2006, 08:34 AM)

This is great news Gary

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Post by: XLNC on October 11, 2006, 04:11:00 AM

What will happen if the firmware is signed, will the hack come to a complete stop or is there a way around this.

MS would def. have taken the debug commands and flash routines out so will this be a problem in flashing and putting the drive into mode B or is there a way around this.

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Post by: Tim-Cahill-is-a-Savage on October 11, 2006, 06:35:00 AM

Just got my Premium delivered for £250 from Currys.

Had a look at the date and it's 2006-07-02 - so I'm good for sure?

It's an Hitachi too, and since I dont have SATA, I am over the moon with this.

By the way, is there meant to be a warranty sticker somewhere on the 360? I can't see it.

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Post by: tob1 on October 11, 2006, 07:08:00 AM

QUOTE(Tim-Cahill-is-a-Savage @ Oct 11 2006, 02:06 PM)

By the way, is there meant to be a warranty sticker somewhere on the 360? I can't see it.

Yes, there's a sticker. Behind the front panel, which you can snap loose, there's a MS-seal that you have to break if you want to open the box.

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Post by: Mana on October 11, 2006, 07:44:00 AM

QUOTE(tob1 @ Oct 11 2006, 01:39 PM)

Yes, there's a sticker. Behind the front panel, which you can snap loose, there's a MS-seal that you have to break if you want to open the box.

or not. just warm the sticker up with a hair dryer and u can peel it off without damaging it, then u can just replace it back after u have put your xbox 360 back together.

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Post by: Tim-Cahill-is-a-Savage on October 11, 2006, 08:04:00 AM

QUOTE(Mana @ Oct 11 2006, 02:15 PM)

or not. just warm the sticker up with a hair dryer and u can peel it off without damaging it, then u can just replace it back after u have put your xbox 360 back together.

Good to know. How long for the hair dryer?

When I've got opening it figured out from one of the guides, I'll give that a go.

But, you think with a July 2nd 2006 date I'd be ok?

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Post by: Mana on October 11, 2006, 08:14:00 AM

QUOTE(Tim-Cahill-is-a-Savage @ Oct 11 2006, 02:35 PM)

Good to know. How long for the hair dryer?

When I've got opening it figured out from one of the guides, I'll give that a go.

But, you think with a July 2nd 2006 date I'd be ok?

yea u should be ok man, good luck with the flashing!

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Post by: Tim-Cahill-is-a-Savage on October 11, 2006, 08:18:00 AM

QUOTE(Mana @ Oct 11 2006, 02:45 PM)

yea u should be ok man, good luck with the flashing!

Thanks dude.

I think I'll be getting the Team Xecuter USB since I don't have SATA, so I hope that gets delivered in less than 7 days...otherwise I can't take it back to Currys and RUN.

I'll post on here when I open it to say what I got....and add it othe drive database thing.

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Post by: foaley77 on October 12, 2006, 02:42:00 AM

QUOTE(Tim-Cahill-is-a-Savage @ Oct 11 2006, 11:19 PM)

If your xbox turns out to be a F/W0078 I dont think it will work with the Xecuter USB kit I could only get the 0078 recognised in Windows with Slax CD using a Silicon sata card ,Xecuter Connectivity Kit did not work.

I think all 78 drives have been August so you should be right

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Post by: garyopa on October 12, 2006, 11:22:00 AM

Thanks to "Stusy" from Swaytech in UK and his great skills in removing chips, I have been email the
contents of the v78 Hitachi firmware, and we are now working on the new Xtreme release for it.

First off the drive key has been moved from >4F00 to >4B00, but that is no big deal and might only
effect those using patching mod like the Globe.

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Post by: langnao on October 12, 2006, 01:23:00 PM

Good news for 0078 owners ...

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Post by: XLNC on October 12, 2006, 02:00:00 PM

I'm glad the firmwares open and you got access to it.

What about flashing from a PC, would this be possible because I expect debug code to be taken out.

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Post by: gascp on October 12, 2006, 02:19:00 PM

QUOTE(XLNC @ Oct 12 2006, 10:31 PM)

I expect debug code to be taken out

Maybe it is easy to be flashed back in

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Post by: foaley77 on October 12, 2006, 02:36:00 PM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Oct 13 2006, 02:23 AM)

Good work Stusy

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Post by: Tim-Cahill-is-a-Savage on October 12, 2006, 02:53:00 PM

QUOTE(Mana @ Oct 11 2006, 02:15 PM)

or not. just warm the sticker up with a hair dryer and u can peel it off without damaging it, then u can just replace it back after u have put your xbox 360 back together.

Brilliant, I got the warranty sticker of that way. It seems fully in tact, what would it look like if it wasn't? It looks exactly the same as when it was on (I've got it floating in some contact lense fluid at the moment), will glue it back on if I ever need to.

My drive is a 59D - this is fine right? Got the USB360 coming tomorrow. Looking forward to it.

That's great news as well garyopa, I hope I was hasty in getting a 360 because of the 78

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Post by: garyopa on October 12, 2006, 03:05:00 PM

QUOTE(XLNC @ Oct 12 2006, 03:31 PM)

I'm glad the firmwares open and you got access to it.

What about flashing from a PC, would this be possible because I expect debug code to be taken out.

Most of the code is still the same, just a few changes, it should be possible to flash the drive from a
PC still, but looking into it. Progress will be made.

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Post by: toddgei on October 12, 2006, 05:54:00 PM

Thats fantastic news about the 78s looks like it might be able to be solved.

You would think that Microsoft wouldnt be able to racidcally change things too much with the drive without compromising compliance with the rest of the system.

Maybe if they do a revised 360 later on it may become an issue, but hopefully the issue with the 78s might be only a month or so away from solution.

Fantastic work Garyopa !!!!!!!

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Post by: myfranco on October 12, 2006, 06:40:00 PM

GaryOpa you're great!!!

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Post by: haris2887 on October 13, 2006, 07:11:00 AM

so because u said the code is still all the same, does it mean that it is still possiable to flash the drive after you have written memdump, flashsec ect.... .....
is FW stealth possiable on this new drive or the meadi Stealth,,,, i have a feeling M$ has done something to Screw up FW stealth so it can easily be detected on xbox live....just my GUT feeling

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Post by: gascp on October 13, 2006, 07:18:00 AM

I believe M$ didnt think of the possibility for xbox360 to be allowed to make backups (from own originals) with a simple flash. So i think either it is no isue to detect flashed firmware or simply dont care so much since the xbox360 sells very well. From the posts i see many byed their 2nd xbox and many others buying spare dvd-roms for their bricked drives (i am one of them). So i think the proffit factor is upscaled.

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Post by: bertiedugger on October 13, 2006, 07:23:00 AM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Oct 12 2006, 05:53 PM)

Superb news.

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Post by: carranzafp on October 13, 2006, 08:57:00 AM

78 got hacked (Version Xtreme 1.5)

http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?topic=4311.msg30914#msg30914

Only need to be tested

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Post by: wreksta on October 14, 2006, 08:35:00 AM

just bought a core this morning uk woolworths and it has 08/08/06 on the back of the unit
so i cracked it open expecting to find a 78 but it wasnt it was a normal 59dj

so hey happy days

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Post by: techmob on October 14, 2006, 06:22:00 PM

QUOTE(wreksta @ Oct 14 2006, 03:06 PM)

just bought a core this morning uk woolworths and it has 08/08/06 on the back of the unit
so i cracked it open expecting to find a 78 but it wasnt it was a normal 59dj

so hey happy days

mines got 08/08/06 on the back of mine, but mine has the samsung drive

there isn't one of these new samsung ones with glue floating around is there?

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Post by: buster1395 on October 16, 2006, 10:39:00 PM

I got a core tonight from ebgames US and got the version 0078FK.

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Post by: PlaStiCam on October 16, 2006, 11:31:00 PM

Looks like they are hitting other shores then folks, heres hoping they guys working on it can sort it out.

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Post by: slikmik on October 17, 2006, 02:26:00 PM

GOT 3 TODAY ALL 78FK MODELS
HOW UNLUCKY AM I?

UK TOYS R US

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Post by: PlaStiCam on October 17, 2006, 01:52:00 PM

QUOTE(slikmik @ Oct 17 2006, 08:57 PM)

GOT 3 TODAY ALL 78FK MODELS
HOW UNLUCKY AM I?

UK TOYS R US

Ive had the same from 2 different branches of Toys R US in the UK.
All cores with 0078FK drives

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Post by: mr-smith on October 18, 2006, 03:14:00 AM

My first post!

Greetings xbox-scene dudes (n dudettes if there is any)!

As I'm about to go out and buy a premium 360, am I right in saying if I get one with a manufacturer date of before August 2006 there is no chance of it being a Hitachi Drive with 0078fk in it?

Otherwise I'm gonna be returning to my local ASDA quite often me thinks........

I've been trying to find a pattern in the 360 drive database but it appears its not updated enough to help me much.

TIA for any replies!

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Post by: Min on October 20, 2006, 08:36:00 AM

Just picked up a core today to replace my broken box

. Made 18 of july , samsung drive

. Dunno if it's a ms25 or 8 , not opened it yet. Probably gonna be a ms28. Was bought from pc world in UK.

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Post by: PlaStiCam on October 21, 2006, 01:20:00 AM

QUOTE

Quote from: Neo_ on October 19, 2006, 01:22:33 AM
Just read on Xbox-Scene, Team Underdog are working on a new NME-360 chip compatible with the v78FK drive.
Maybe there is hope for this drive afterall.

There's more than just hope. A software flash routine is 100% possible and is being finalized. Maybe we'll see it soon here

The post can be found here:
http://www.xboxhacke...p?topic=4311.40

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Post by: foaley77 on October 21, 2006, 02:25:00 AM

I'm going to wait on Gary's new software to do my 0078 I'm not going to waste money on a modchip.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: haris2887 on October 23, 2006, 05:59:00 AM

Keeping the thread alive

U got Gary OPA

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on October 23, 2006, 09:38:00 AM

Seems to be two versions of the 78 drive around.

Just got another dump email to me, which is much different than the first.

Drive is starting to show up finally in Canada, so it will not be much longer before I personally
have one to play with to finish the "software" PC flashing/verify part.

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Post by: W0bbie on October 23, 2006, 10:27:00 AM

Cool, keep up the good work mate....

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Post by: Sir Smoke XIII on October 23, 2006, 11:03:00 AM

Indeed ! Keep it up Gary. All this work is highly appreciated!

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Post by: haris2887 on October 24, 2006, 04:35:00 AM

Gary OPA,
how do we defrienciate between the 2 different versions......Does this mean we need another hacked biso for the other version ?

by the sound of your tone it seems like you have everything done just waiting to test it....

U r Da MAN

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Exobex on October 24, 2006, 12:57:00 PM

Came across a 0078FK at the weekend. Core pack, bought from Argos (online) last week, manufacture date 2006-08-17.

It's now on the Xbox 360 Drive Database. Those unlucky enough to get hold of these ought to add the details to the list so that others know what to avoid.

Looking at the one Wreksta's already added and comparing with the one I found:-
Premium, 2006-08-08 = 59DJ
Core, 2006-08-17 = 78FK

Looks like mid-August is the point where it all kicks off for us PAL users!

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Post by: spv4u on October 25, 2006, 06:44:00 PM

hey garyopa

Any chance you can give us a update on how you are getting on with the 0078 firmware?

Been doing alot of reading on this and just wondered when a release is due or if you have managed to get a dump from the drive without de-soldering the chip

Cheers

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Post by: Hopeful on October 25, 2006, 10:02:00 PM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Oct 23 2006, 04:09 PM)

I know it's a little sketchy to say this but:

Gary, if you said

"Aaaaaahahah, april fools! It's not really coming out."

I would laugh my ass off. You'd be my hero, dude.

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Post by: haris2887 on October 25, 2006, 11:37:00 PM

QUOTE

I know it's a little sketchy to say this but:

Gary, if you said

"Aaaaaahahah, april fools! It's not really coming out."

I would laugh my ass off. You'd be my hero, dude.

cmon, thats evil thinking....

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Post by: josseys on October 26, 2006, 11:09:00 AM

So anyone given a time scale for sorting the 0078fk issue out??????

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on October 26, 2006, 12:04:00 PM

The 78 drives use "rolling code" base, so the patch locations are different on the drive.

That is the key parts to be patch vary from drive to drive, not always the same location.

This will STOP on-the-fly patching chips completely, they WILL NEVER work on the new 78 drive.

As for software-side flashing it is possible just new more time in testing the code, plus a new
string-searching patching needs to be designed over the normal-fixed-address patch currently
used on the older drives, since each drive could have code up or down by a few bytes or more.

Still don't personaly have a drive myself, so work is moving along slowly.

Most of the changes in the new v78 drive by MS/Hitachi is aimed towards the market of this
patching modchips like NME, etc. I guess they fell companies marketing modchips for the x360
is a bigger problem than users flashing their drives.

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Post by: Textbook on October 26, 2006, 12:51:00 PM

Mm..that sounds tasty to me. So basically what you're saying is you should be able to make a dump of the firmware first, decrypt the firmware, then search the fw for a specific string and then patch based on what that string finds ??

But.. how are you going to get a full dump of the firmware through software if memdump doesn't work and the locations vary based on drive ??

Glad to know what's going on and how you're trying to solve the problem. I have faith in you Gary, good luck and have a

on me.

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Post by: garyopa on October 26, 2006, 01:04:00 PM

QUOTE(Textbook @ Oct 26 2006, 02:58 PM)

Glad to know what's going on and how you're trying to solve the problem. I have faith in you Gary, good luck and have a

on me.

Sorry I don't Drink & Hack, worse then Drink & Drive, you end up with a dead x360 crash dummie that way!

QUOTE(Textbook @ Oct 26 2006, 02:58 PM)

That is right, dump the fw with a new re-written "memdump", search for key patterns in the fw and then
patch them with the correct data and then remember the address blocks they were found in and then tell the flashing part what blocks to re-write.

QUOTE(Textbook @ Oct 26 2006, 02:58 PM)

But.. how are you going to get a full dump of the firmware through software if memdump doesn't work and the locations vary based on drive ??

Memdump is the only program that needs to be re-written besides the patching control, as they have removed the one Debug command which "memdump" uses, but the flashing commands still exist as MS needs them to upload the drive key to the drive.

My first idea is to use the flashing commands but instead of uploading a "flashing program" which it currently does, it will upload a "reading program" to copy the firmware contents to the ram area which is readable.

My second fall-back idea if the ram read is also blocked, to write a special "ENABLE" flash which will first
upload a special flashing program with the "debug read command" and search the existing firmware for
the "disabled" one and then "re-enable" it by flashing this sector with the "enabled/patched" bytes and
then updating the checksum incase of power-failure and then this would enable the old "memdump"
program to work correctly.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: haris2887 on October 27, 2006, 02:32:00 AM

so that means...
every single 0078 FK drive has a Unique FW.....

p.s
good work gary on finding this...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on October 27, 2006, 06:27:00 AM

QUOTE(haris2887 @ Oct 27 2006, 04:39 AM)

so that means...
every single 0078 FK drive has a Unique FW.....

p.s
good work gary on finding this...

Not completely unique, just moved address and ram locations around a bit,
each drive has them up a few or down a few, etc.

This stops completely the use of generic off the shelf mods like NME, Globe,
and the many others as the on-the-fly patching fails, and even if they store
a complete copy of working v78 FW in a chip like Globe, it MIGHT still fail as
some ram and other controller info is changed around on each drive.

So that leaves just FLASHING by software left as an option, but the flashing
program is going to need to dump and then search and figure out the moves
of code and scrambling of ram locations before producing the patch data to
flash back to the drive.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Textbook on October 27, 2006, 08:28:00 AM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Oct 27 2006, 08:34 AM)

Haha, Microsoft is answering OUR demands now. Every time a chip comes out, we're flaming it because they cost too much, difficult to install, and offer no advantage over a firmware flash. Now Microsoft is making it so we can't use chips at all, but we still might be able to flash it, haha. Good luck Gary.

BTW: Thanks for dumbing down your explanations to my level of understanding. Doesn't make me feel so stupid.

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Post by: langnao on October 27, 2006, 08:48:00 AM

Good stuff ...

But seriously who wants those mod. chip, hassle to install + no homebrew, don't see a point ...

I guess they are making money out of it and thus MS is stopping them whereas people like us are just exercising our fair use rights..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ModdingManiac on October 29, 2006, 09:08:00 PM

Just got one of these in a new system, guess they are showing up in USA (California) now (or have they already been circulating?)

Is there a working fw for these drives, can't find one, i want to remove the chip and test it..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on October 30, 2006, 03:34:00 AM

im hoping i shoul dfind out tommorow if we can get round this not being able to flash internally issue! we have now removed all glue off one board and removed chip to flash and now working on replacing it. tommorow we think our man should have some new gear to help us flash the 0078fk so ill be on at 12:00 GMT with news..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: haris2887 on October 30, 2006, 05:12:00 AM

good work on removing the glue...
BTW.
how did you go about removing the glue ??

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: W0bbie on October 31, 2006, 06:06:00 AM

Any more news Pep's?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: spv4u on October 31, 2006, 06:55:00 AM

Past 12 GMT and no responce not looking good!

I am like all other 0078 owners waiting for the day to unleash my baby!

Until then i'll have to drink more beer and try to relax!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: quantum29 on October 31, 2006, 08:23:00 AM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Oct 26 2006, 07:11 PM)

Sorry I don't Drink & Hack, worse then Drink & Drive, you end up with a dead x360 crash dummie that way!
That is right, dump the fw with a new re-written "memdump", search for key patterns in the fw and then
patch them with the correct data and then remember the address blocks they were found in and then tell the flashing part what blocks to re-write.
Memdump is the only program that needs to be re-written besides the patching control, as they have removed the one Debug command which "memdump" uses, but the flashing commands still exist as MS needs them to upload the drive key to the drive.

My first idea is to use the flashing commands but instead of uploading a "flashing program" which it currently does, it will upload a "reading program" to copy the firmware contents to the ram area which is readable.

My second fall-back idea if the ram read is also blocked, to write a special "ENABLE" flash which will first
upload a special flashing program with the "debug read command" and search the existing firmware for
the "disabled" one and then "re-enable" it by flashing this sector with the "enabled/patched" bytes and
then updating the checksum incase of power-failure and then this would enable the old "memdump"
program to work correctly.

Once the read routine is enabled and the key found and dumped can't a complete generic 78 firmware (with key) be flashed back to the drive. This would save having to patch different locations in each drive.

( i asume one 78 dump will work in another 78 with correct key)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on October 31, 2006, 11:56:00 AM

QUOTE(quantum29 @ Oct 31 2006, 03:30 PM)

STill waiting here from my mate simon! who follows me on here so he should know by now but aint bloody emailed me yet!

is from some excalabor dudes down south in uk! so as soon as he emails ill let you guys know!

COME ON SIMON! TELL US! lol

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: skUNksTA on October 31, 2006, 02:37:00 PM

i got two of them with two box's inparts waiting for some firmware.Pft to MS, Gary FTW

PS. not holding my etc etc from what i have seen and heard

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: W0bbie on November 01, 2006, 04:34:00 AM

Kool,

Was this the firmware he tried?

Linkage

Also was he able to flash the firmware with out having to remove the chip from the board? e/g a PC Tool method?

Cheers

\/\/()|3|3!£

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: crazyorange on November 01, 2006, 04:50:00 AM

QUOTE(josseys @ Nov 2 2006, 12:27 AM)

GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS!

i have been to my mates shop who has flashed the drive.

He has a program to find the key and copy in to new flash

a program to show the drive in windows.

only issue is the new firmware dont work! F**K sake.

So the hard part is done just need a firmware now.

Ill be speaking to him tonight again so will let you know! its close now so dont worry guys
as soon as its done ill be on here and i will dump the firmware and send to you lots.

almost is a good news,finaly I see some hope on this bloody drive.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 01, 2006, 07:06:00 AM

QUOTE(crazyorange @ Nov 1 2006, 11:57 AM)

almost is a good news,finaly I see some hope on this bloody drive.

seems possitive though that at least we can flash it now it just a matter of the firmware flash now. if anyone has a firmware prog we can use to get this to work let me know! then we can get it up and running.

COME ON HELP US HELP YOU! lol

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mcgough on November 01, 2006, 06:14:00 PM

Grrrrrrrrrr, i'd like to join the growing list of disgruntled 0078fk owners

Core System
Manufactuer date: 2006-9-10
Location: UK

My dog has a habit of eating discs if i am dumb enough to leave them lying about and i desperately need to backup my games. So, my eternal respect and admiration goes out to Garyopa. May he triumph in his quest of cracking this pesky drive - WE HAVE FAITH! lol

best of luck Gary...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: haris2887 on November 01, 2006, 06:49:00 PM

so joseys let me git this write...
you are claiming that you are able to write to the FW without removing the chip ????

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: radish28 on November 01, 2006, 06:54:00 PM

anyone have any pictures? I'd like to see this board after removing the stuff with a solder iron.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mcgough on November 02, 2006, 08:55:00 AM

QUOTE(josseys @ Nov 2 2006, 04:36 PM)

WELL WAT IM SAYING I WE HAVE SOFTWARE (we being simon my local eggbox expert has got software to write to chip without removing it) this is all i have right now! we have software to find the roling key which then copies it to file and the FLASH goes the weezle.

have you sent this to garyopa? if not, im sure he'd be interested to see...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 02, 2006, 09:34:00 AM

glue removal. on 0078fk!

DONT USE SCALPEL! use needle and stanley knife wont cut your hands off then!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mummifar on November 02, 2006, 10:05:00 AM

Any news on hacking the 0078FK drive by now? - How close are the hackers on getting this drive to play backups?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Kramer987 on November 02, 2006, 10:15:00 AM

i thought the 78 had BLACK glue?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Xombe on November 02, 2006, 12:40:00 PM

Thread cleaned.

Xbox-scene does not condone piracy. Those insinuating otherwise will find their accounts closed.

Just because YOU think a certain way does not make it acceptable to cover this site with blanet, "wink-wink-you-know" statements.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Textbook on November 02, 2006, 12:42:00 PM

QUOTE(josseys @ Nov 2 2006, 11:41 AM)

glue removal. on 0078fk!

DONT USE SCALPEL! use needle and stanley knife wont cut your hands off then!

Ok, I was skeptical to begin with, but that just pushes it over the edge. First, you were claiming your "friend" had this software to flash the drive, but had yet to try it out. Now, you're claiming it worked but the firmware was messed up?!?! THEN, you post a link to Team Modfreakz video of removing the epoxy on a Samsung drive.

I may be wrong, but in my opinion, you're not sounding too believable at this point. Proof maybe? Upload the program and maybe I will believe you.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 03, 2006, 09:55:00 AM

bit of bad news ,

the program i got was a slightly modified version of the older hitatchi installer, it is fake -

it says its found the drive etc and has flashed 100% -

even goes through a routine to check all flashing processes but it does no flashing at all - in fact it does not touch the drive - this came from a good source too

so one copy on net is a fake! i sent you the link to modfreak cos thats where i learnt to do it! and black epoxy is same! just shows you how.

I know there is equip has been hacked it just needs testing and finding who aint sending fake ones out....

SO dont blame the messanger! and dont have a go! i have 10 i need to do! just trying everywhere to get it done!

IF YOU CAN DO BETTER DO!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: quantum29 on November 03, 2006, 10:01:00 AM

QUOTE(josseys @ Nov 3 2006, 05:02 PM)

bit of bad news ,
the program i got was a slightly modified version of the older hitatchi installer, it is fake -

it says its found the drive etc and has flashed 100% -

even goes through a routine to check all flashing processes but it does no flashing at all - in fact it does not touch the drive - this came from a good source too

so one copy on net is a fake! i sent you the link to modfreak cos thats where i learnt to do it! and black epoxy is same! just shows you how.

I know there is equip has been hacked it just needs testing and finding who aint sending fake ones out....

SO dont blame the messanger! and dont have a go! i have 10 i need to do! just trying everywhere to get it done!

IF YOU CAN DO BETTER DO!

As carranzafp said it is now tried and tested and the files have been publicly available for some time now. As you have removed the black resin and removed the chip you should be ok.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: garyopa on November 03, 2006, 12:12:00 PM

Just got a postal notice from customs that my own personal v78 drive to be play with
is waiting for me to be pickup at the local postal / customs depot in my area.

I will be driving over there in the Sat. afternoon to paid the customs broker and taxes
and then get to work shortly afterwards on finalizing some new software to read
and then correctly flash the drive to the latest and greatest Xtreme version ever.

News and progress reports will be posted here.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: myfranco on November 03, 2006, 01:03:00 PM

Wow good news from Garyopa.Let's see what's going on with that firmware.
Thank you Garyopa.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: jitster on November 03, 2006, 01:40:00 PM

Very good news ! Keep up the good work garyopa

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: skUNksTA on November 03, 2006, 01:44:00 PM

garyopa FTW .Nice news

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: foaley77 on November 04, 2006, 12:59:00 AM

QUOTE(garyopa @ Nov 4 2006, 04:49 AM)

Just got a postal notice from customs that my own personal v78 drive to be play with
is waiting for me to be pickup at the local postal / customs depot in my area.

News and progress reports will be posted here.

Excellent news Gary my 78 have been collecting dust since 28th Sept

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: jokerooony on November 04, 2006, 11:07:00 PM

finally some hope for my split box it looks so sad sitting in bits the poor wee soul hasn't even turned a disc lol good luck gary you da man you have put a smile on many a face this weekend even if it is just a start

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Theninjagecko on November 05, 2006, 07:53:00 AM

YES! Thank god this has made my week. Good luck with the drive hope its not too hard to sort out

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on November 05, 2006, 08:00:00 AM

Saw my 1st 0078fk today

Hope its the last until garyopa works his wonders. Otherwise ill have to buy a heatgun, pyropen & programmer.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: W0bbie on November 06, 2006, 02:21:00 AM

Kool, keep up the good work.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hazhazhaz on November 06, 2006, 10:46:00 AM

Just bought my first 360 together with a xeno connectivity kit and the hitachi drive turns out to be a 78, once gary hacks it am I right in thinking the xeno will be alright with it?

Go Gary!!!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: quantum29 on November 06, 2006, 10:52:00 AM

QUOTE(hazhazhaz @ Nov 6 2006, 05:53 PM)

Just bought my first 360 together with a xeno connectivity kit and the hitachi drive turns out to be a 78, once gary hacks it am I right in thinking the xeno will be alright with it?

Go Gary!!!

assuming a hack gets released

It will be ok for power to the drive but not for modeb on the 78

you will need to use slax2

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Theninjagecko on November 07, 2006, 10:09:00 AM

QUOTE(quantum29 @ Nov 6 2006, 07:59 PM)

assuming a hack gets released

It will be ok for power to the drive but not for modeb on the 78

you will need to use slax2

No word from gary yet so its not looking too good

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Theninjagecko on November 07, 2006, 11:08:00 AM

QUOTE(mummifar @ Nov 7 2006, 07:21 PM)

Give him some time to work - I am sure, he will get it working

He's an expert!

Ive just got rid of one black glue drive, i really wanna go get another 260 but dam will be pissed if its another black glue drive lol.

Seems in uk argos have all black glue drives now,

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Methadon on November 07, 2006, 02:38:00 PM

QUOTE(mummifar @ Nov 7 2006, 06:21 PM)

Give him some time to work - I am sure, he will get it working

He's an expert!

We gave him time. Serve us now, slave!!!! j/k

I know it seems like any time work is done, it gets taken for granted. Thanx for all your hard work, gary.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mattyv on November 07, 2006, 05:18:00 PM

I agree, take your time because although everyone wants a fix for the 78, I think the most important thing is to have it done right. All the people complaining about the time frame, just think how long you'll be without the drive and whole 360 if you get a bricked drive due to a rushed FW. I just got a 0078fk last week and I woul like to see it soon also, but Gary, take your time. All of us that benefit from your hard work do appreciate it.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 07, 2006, 05:55:00 PM

well i just got a new hitatchi 78k from a samsung 25.... this puppy will be collecting dust

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on November 08, 2006, 12:58:00 AM

3 off the damn things sat here atm

Still my faith in Gary is high and I am sure he is working away on it as fast as possible.

Maybe a progress report would be nice just to keep us all on the edge of our chairs, either way GL on it Gary.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hazhazhaz on November 08, 2006, 04:08:00 AM

QUOTE(Akastaff @ Nov 8 2006, 10:05 AM)

3 off the damn things sat here atm

No news is good news as they say!!!

But yeah an update would be nice, my brand new 360 is slowly turning into a white elephant.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 08, 2006, 07:35:00 AM

yea i would like a update.. considering they have firmware out and some people are running modded firmware n the 0078fks... maybe those devs could lend a helping hand to gary

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 08, 2006, 10:08:00 AM

well im sat here with 10 of the bloody things! count yourself lucky you didnt order a bunch for xmas to get cracked and now im high and dry! not good!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on November 08, 2006, 01:57:00 PM

Got a distinct feeling that a programmer is the way to go, certainly not afraid of using soldering irons or pyropens. Got no clue using a programmer mind you, last time I used one Eproms had little windows in them to erase them

Kinda handy for those dreaded BRICK moments too !!!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: onetimeuseonly on November 08, 2006, 03:45:00 PM

Hi just a little request to people on this forum, I'm just as eager as all of you to get my 360 up and running and it pisses my off to no end that whenever I check back for updates I find that the 2 new pages of replies, which had at first raised my hopes, are actually just garbage posts. NONE of us would be reading this forum if we didn't have a 78fk 360 so we don't need to hear about it every time someone buys one in some hamlet town in Utah.

So PLEASE, no more:
"I just picked up a 78fk in Forfare Scotland today! But it's only good as a paper weight atm LOL ROTFL. OMG I cant wait for it to be hacked!

"

It doesn't help anyone.
Likewise all you well wishers, do it privately! A whole page is taken up with: "Thanks GAry wHat's new tHE NEws?!

"

So as not to appear hypocritical this will my only post on the matter. Thank you and good luck those actually working towards a solution.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on November 08, 2006, 04:14:00 PM

Firstly people posting where the 78's are appearing is a pretty good guide as to the distribution of these drives and just how common they are getting and hopefully will help some who are going to purchase with regards as to where to avoid.

I would imagine Gary is under a fair bit of pressure, these 78's are mean beggers so a little chit chat and the occasional GO GO GARY !! comment just lets him know that people out their apprieciate his work and are not just going to login, leech and sod off without even a thx.

Certainly don't post just to repeat a previous post but all info is good info and so far there is a pretty good picture forming of just where Microsoft have dumped these drives.

Just my pennies worth. Just incase everything goes wrong, I've got my rubber mallet ready and will record a video of how to dismatle a 0078 in under 3 secs !!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 09, 2006, 07:47:00 AM

LOL! "Just my pennies worth. Just incase everything goes wrong, I've got my rubber mallet ready and will record a video of how to dismatle a 0078 in under 3 secs !! blink.gif" now if thats the case of not being able to mod i'll probably join you

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 09, 2006, 09:21:00 AM

yea i'm sorry, but im waiting for the same thing too... i check whenever im near my computer... i hope it comes out soon!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hazhazhaz on November 09, 2006, 09:46:00 AM

QUOTE(Optics2k3 @ Nov 9 2006, 06:28 PM)

yea i'm sorry, but im waiting for the same thing too... i check whenever im near my computer... i hope it comes out soon!

Its cool mate, I must look at this page about 100 times a day!!!!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 09, 2006, 12:22:00 PM

i think we all need to add $10 each for the first guy to crack one and prove it works! they would be rich and hopefully get it cracked in hours.

ANY other idea's welcome.

Im still needing someone with a programmer i have my chip out and epoxy all over the floor!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: modz360 on November 09, 2006, 02:22:00 PM

hey gary im also in toronto in the markham area.....what uni u go to or went to?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: glaze on November 10, 2006, 01:22:00 AM

Use maximus firmware toolbox 2.0 to insert your key into that firmware package and then encrypt it and flash the encrypted file with your programmer

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bertiedugger on November 10, 2006, 03:01:00 AM

QUOTE(slimgrip @ Nov 5 2006, 05:07 PM)

Saw my 1st 0078fk today

Hope its the last until garyopa works his wonders. Otherwise ill have to buy a heatgun, pyropen & programmer.

It could have been much worse m8. It could have been in my console.

Seriously hope Gary comes up with something for you guys soon though, I remember sweating on whether I had one inside my machine as my date was back end of July 06.

Now he has a drive I really dont think it will be too much longer and by the sounds of it there will be updated firmware for one and all.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bricklayer on November 10, 2006, 05:51:00 AM

just opened the new 360,guess what ? hitach 78

i think m$ is now flooding u.k. with these.everyone will be getting a 78 in their christmas stocking.

one winner m$.

hope to see the hack soon.

thanks.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hazhazhaz on November 10, 2006, 07:00:00 AM

Getting a bit desperate now as all I have is one xbox and its a 78, does anyone have any experience of one of these:

http://www.hit-it.co...b89fd6333d24063

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: egres on November 10, 2006, 07:07:00 AM

QUOTE(hazhazhaz @ Nov 10 2006, 09:07 AM)

Getting a bit desperate now as all I have is one xbox and its a 78, does anyone have any experience of one of these:

http://www.hit-it.co...b89fd6333d24063

This is a PC drive only. Not a replacement drive for Xbox 360. When properly flashed, it allows to back up your original Xbox 360 games on a pc.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gopher2005 on November 10, 2006, 07:20:00 AM

QUOTE(hazhazhaz @ Nov 10 2006, 03:07 PM)

Getting a bit desperate now as all I have is one xbox and its a 78, does anyone have any experience of one of these:

http://www.hit-it.co...b89fd6333d24063

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1QQcmdZViewItem have a look at that oviously you need to know your drive key to be able to use it.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hazhazhaz on November 10, 2006, 07:41:00 AM

QUOTE(gopher2005 @ Nov 10 2006, 04:27 PM)

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1QQcmdZViewItem have a look at that oviously you need to know your drive key to be able to use it.

Thanks for that can you point me in the direction of somewhere that tells me how to find out my drivekey.

Bit of a noob with 360's managed to chip my old xbox eventually though!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 10, 2006, 11:37:00 AM

sorry that i'm posting in here... i thought i would humor u guys a bit... So me as impatient as i am decided against a 0078fk drive and took it back to ebgames because i was noticing some heating issue's... then i got a samsung 28! i thought YAY! then i read i have to do a VCC mod, and im terrible with the soldering.. well i tired it and fucked my dvd drive giving me a red light... so back i went and lone and behold im back again with a 0078fk drive.. hopefully i wont have to do any soldering with this or my flashing days are over... so the count of xbox's i went through this week 5

lol!

Come on GARY!!!@! i did my voodoo dance and chants for ya last night hopefully soon you bless us with your magical Anti M$ voodoo

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Theninjagecko on November 10, 2006, 06:28:00 PM

QUOTE(Optics2k3 @ Nov 10 2006, 08:44 PM)

lol!

Come on GARY!!!@! i did my voodoo dance and chants for ya last night hopefully soon you bless us with your magical Anti M$ voodoo

Sammy 28 :S wtf i thought they could all be firmware easily apart from this black glue drive

think im better heading over to fleebay for one.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: thecheekymonkey on November 10, 2006, 06:57:00 PM

QUOTE(paultuk @ Nov 10 2006, 08:51 PM)

Cheers Glaze,

I'll try it tomorrow. Got a whole day to mess around with them. I have 80 Blank Tsop chips too just in case i mess up!!!

Thanks
Paul T

its not the blank chips i would worry about

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: quantum29 on November 11, 2006, 12:47:00 AM

QUOTE(Optics2k3 @ Nov 10 2006, 06:44 PM)

lol!

Come on GARY!!!@! i did my voodoo dance and chants for ya last night hopefully soon you bless us with your magical Anti M$ voodoo

I still dont understand why people who are not experienced with soldering attempt to mode the MS28 when all they have to do is buy a £12 Via card and use the 10 second method

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 11, 2006, 01:00:00 AM

ok guys assuming i buy a 0046dg drive for my xbox which is a 0078fk and get the key off. can i still run the new firmware without chip removal?????? cos i found a guy in china who will sell me them at £30 inc delivery! any help guys please??????

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: rossmac18 on November 11, 2006, 02:37:00 AM

The only way to get your key (atm) is to remove the chip and read it with a willem programmer. And if you can do that you could reprogram the 78 anyway, so a replacement drive is NOT a solution for anyone with a 78.

Fancy telling us where you can get 46 drives for £30?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: quantum29 on November 11, 2006, 03:04:00 AM

QUOTE(rossmac18 @ Nov 11 2006, 09:44 AM)

there are 47 drives on fleebay for £40

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: rossmac18 on November 11, 2006, 04:21:00 AM

+£12 postage = £52

josseys knows someone who can supply them for £30 delivered

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 11, 2006, 08:09:00 AM

Saturday morning and still no update... starting to feel like i should just give up on this puppy

! oh and about the ms28 drives.. i don't have a credit card and i wasn't about to go into more debt for something that modders can probably do soon... HOPEFULLY

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 11, 2006, 02:34:00 PM

the guy was someone i emailed on ebay from china ill get his email and add it on here! he sells them on ebay for £40 at moment from there but can send them direct if we dont use ebay! sorry aint got email now am at mates house! trying to swap his xbox 360 wohooooo!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 11, 2006, 10:05:00 PM

post shit like this in other topics please

hope for that firmware please!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on November 12, 2006, 03:05:00 AM

Is there such a thing as a half decent tutorial for using a programmer. Think a few may be considering that route now and it could be very helpful in their early days. One specifically aimed at the 78 would be perfect.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gopher2005 on November 12, 2006, 05:19:00 PM

QUOTE(paddypitbug @ Nov 12 2006, 11:48 PM)

yep I was sold the xb360 with the hitachi drive 78fk on the 9/11/2006 from argos (uk) and looked into what you guys have been going through and thought what have I got into here well on the 13.11.2006 I am meeting up with a person who states he can solve the pain in the arse 78fk (not sure if he has solved the firmware problem or has read the chip yet to discover !) I will post again on the 13th to let you all know what he is willing to tell because my aim is to merge the king of firmware mr. Garyopa to cross communicate with this person to end the pain in the hitachi-arse other-wise I will have my 360 done and get another mate to take the 360 apart to see if he can suss out what he has done or to try and read off the firmware that has been used with my mate to try & help us all - it's nice to see how much help and advice there is from this site I hope I can help - will keep you all posted on the out-come... Paddypitbug.

Firmware is already done can be found at the usual places, the only problem now is finding a way to flash it without removing the tsop flash chip.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: x8ox on November 12, 2006, 06:22:00 PM

Ive taken the tsop of a 59dj no problem

but when i tried to remove it from a 78
well its glued down sheer force resulted
in the chip just bending at the corner

anyone else found it to be glued

i think its some type of super glue

cya

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: toddgei on November 12, 2006, 08:23:00 PM

QUOTE(x8ox @ Nov 13 2006, 02:29 AM)

That black exproy, if you check out you tube there is a video showing how it can be removed. All you need is a heat gun and a scapel. There is a link somewhere on here to the video, check out the main page.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 12, 2006, 08:48:00 PM

Gary, I know your busy and i understand life is busy especially since your running a business.. and i appericate all that you have done so far as wlel as everyone that has helped you along the way. But you sir are killing me, i must hit up xboxhacker and this site more then 80 times day just to see if you have released or updated anything LOL... i hope you release something to put me outa my misery.,..

Thank you very much

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 13, 2006, 07:39:00 AM

have you tried unsoldering it first? that would probably be the first thing thats making it stick

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gopher2005 on November 13, 2006, 08:51:00 AM

i think im goin to try the proggramer method can any 1 tell me if this proggramer will do the job http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1QQcmdZViewItem thanks.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 13, 2006, 09:22:00 AM

i was thinking! why do we have to take the chip off the board?? cant we use a programmer and solder on the wires rather than fitting into the programmer???? just a thought! cos we could have wires from the programmer running to the chip and design like a hat which sits on the chip and allows all the terminals to touch???? if it would work ill do it! he he!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: xboxto on November 13, 2006, 10:05:00 AM

Cant someone like Gary simply make a new software version that doesn't need any wires soldering or removal of chips?

Now that Maximus has made the xtreme firmware 1.5 for hitatchi 0078fk?

regards
xboxto

P.s

Anyone done the 10 sec trick on an ms28 using intel ich5???

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: x8ox on November 13, 2006, 10:09:00 AM

Well its off in 2 pieces

All the underside of the chip was covered with
the epoxy

Can anyone comment on the effect to the chip
heating it up to silly degrees

I cant see meself trying another LOL

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 13, 2006, 10:11:00 AM

i think gary is doing that as we speak! its not easy i guess so lets wait! i still think we should make a hat for the flash box and try that! im goin to have a think! just someone tell me if it will work while still on the board xxxx

the heat usually trashes the chips just buy another! and flash that one! i hear the 40's are better than the 20's if you know wat i mean!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: xboxto on November 13, 2006, 10:16:00 AM

QUOTE(josseys @ Nov 13 2006, 07:18 PM)

the heat usually trashes the chips just buy another! and flash that one! i hear the 40's are better than the 20's if you know wat i mean!

Gary's a star! along with the rest! I dont doubt they will come up with a better solution that removing chips!
Like you say! its a waiting game but at the moment its a problem for many and deserves high priority!

Alot more should become active to give these guys a break as there must be a lot of pressure!
If there is anything we can do to help let us know! we were just about the 1st ever along with pringle to do
the samsung ms28's via the vcc trick under guidance but would love to help again in anyway!

regards
xboxto

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on November 13, 2006, 10:32:00 AM

i'll pretty much do anything to help besides heating or soldering... went that route with a ms28 and ended up stripping all of the resistors off LOL! so back that xbox went to ebgames... neways hopefully some method will come out soon.. i can donate money and learn to edit programs if needed to help

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: brody34 on November 18, 2006, 03:34:00 AM

i gambled that TESCO wouldn't check that i'd removed the microsoft sticker and they didn't, so i have swapped my core for an earlier manufactured model: 2006-08-18 (was 2006-08-30) team: fdou with lot: 0633

my excuse was that it had scratched a game which i showed them. this wasn't a lie although i did leave out the fact that i'd left that game in the drive the other day when i was transporting the box to brighton.

i reckon it will probably still be a 78fk i have, but have looked here: http://www.360drives.com/list and seen that there is a lot: 0633 man: 2006-08-17 team: fdou with an ms28 in it, so fingers crossed... and if it is another 78fk then it sounds hopeful garyOPA will crack it soon anyway

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: toddgei on November 18, 2006, 07:47:00 AM

QUOTE(xboxto @ Nov 17 2006, 11:02 PM)

I think the best thing people need to do is simply check the usual places like xbins! and remember so far the rate of progress has been fantastic! to say that a firmware is working and developed! So no more people asking for the software and Gary or others will make it more than clear when software is ready!

People say take your time! but if i know you guys anyway it will be done sooner than later!

Comet still has ms28's in Leeds! Cant believe samsung would loose a contract for new machines!
They make the drives in masses for xbox1, xbox360's and have a very good relationship with MS.
More likely we'll see a new version of the samsung I.E ms30 and new work needed. Combined with the
0078fk's we cant do without hassle! I would imagine MS would hope to secure a method
that involves removing the chip to flash it no matter what!

regards
xboxto

I think this is on the cards, I would expect the new sammy drive to appear just before Halo 3 so it is in circulation in all territories before it is release, just like the new Hitachi came out before gears of war. It seems obvious that Microsoft are just using the 78s now and most probably sammy are away developing their new drive which will be developed similar to the 78. Microsoft I guess are hoping that the drives have a reasonable life span before they are hacked to ensure that new adopters are at least buying software for a period of time.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slimgrip on November 18, 2006, 10:02:00 AM

I cant see m$ making 360 "too" hard for modders.

Look at the LPC on Xbox1 for instance?? M$ knew that was the consoles gateway to hackabilty but did they cover that with Epoxy? And its not as if Epoxy resin is some new substance!

Just my opinion folks

Slim

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dusan75 on November 18, 2006, 10:38:00 AM

Hello!

Everyone try to 1.6 firmware on 78fk drive with Panasonic 103S49FDB processor ? I succesfully writed the flash (key, encrypt, etc.) and put back to drive. Now it's not working, tray not open, etc.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Textbook on November 18, 2006, 02:50:00 PM

...and you wonder why people from XboxHacker stay at XboxHacker...

People! Just read for ten minutes before asking stupid questions, and the people stating things - make sure you are correct before trying to help somebody, but only claiming things that are wrong!

If you have an 0078FK

You cannot use another drive without first getting the key...

Only way to get the key ... removing the epoxy, desoldering the TSOP, and reading it in a programmer

You cannot flash the drive using software, you cannot use a modchip, you cannot read the firmware using software.

Either remove the epoxy, desolder the TSOP and use a programmer, or wait, like all of us

Seriously, this thread is ridiculous, I've never seen so many noobs asking questions without reading or spewing out incorrect info.

Nobody is asking you to know how to hack firmware or write assembly code, just read a little bit before posting.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on November 18, 2006, 03:58:00 PM

QUOTE(Textbook @ Nov 18 2006, 10:57 PM)

Hey I was trying to say this in a more roundabout way

But you nailed it nicely

GG

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 18, 2006, 10:43:00 PM

Hi, first time poster and a noobie to all this firmware upgrading. Well, I really thought I was gonna cruise right along and start playing my xbox 360 until...you guessed it...ran across the infamous 0078fk version. *sighs* I friggin' cancelled my preorder on the wii just to have this happen to me. ah wells...

anyways, i noticed people were having no trouble actually getting their hitachi drive to show up under Windows. Mind you I am PC literate and am capable of building machines, so I know how things work. After installing the SATA drivers and disabling RAID mode in the bios, I pretty much followed all the guides I've seen on sites, torrents, etc. But for some reason after booting the Slax cd (I see the Froto Edition menu before the login prompt) and resetting my PC, the drive isn't in mode b since it doesn't show up during Windows. I even did the "go to Device Manager and see if it is in there under 'DVD/CD ROM Drives'. If it is, right click on it and select 'Properties'. Then select the 'Volumes' tab and click 'Populate'. Now go to My Computer and it should be visible." step, but nothing. I don't know if it's because something's not set up right or I'm not using the right Slax cd??? I know it can't be my chipset because VT8237 is supported. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm not sure how many different tutorials are out there, but the one I used is the one written and compiled by geebee.

Here's my computer information if anyone knows what's up:

Motherboard: Abit AV8 3rd Eye w/ onboard SATA connectors
Chipset: VIA K8T800 PRO + VT8237

And just to be clear...I am suppose to boot the slax cd on the cd/dvd drive connected to my pc, NOT the xbox 360 drive?

Any advice/suggestions are appreciated. And keep up the good work garyopa!

This post has been edited by MaXeEmOe: Nov 19 2006, 06:48 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dynt on November 18, 2006, 11:22:00 PM

QUOTE(MaXeEmOe @ Nov 19 2006, 07:50 AM)

what version hitachi have you got

slax is for 360 drive

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 19, 2006, 12:00:00 AM

QUOTE(dynt @ Nov 19 2006, 01:29 AM)

what version hitachi have you got

slax is for 360 drive

dynt,

Mmmmm....isn't it 0078fk? Cause according to Commodore4eva,

To see the version of FW your Hitachi-LG drives has you will have to open your case (and void warranty) though, as far as I know. The FW (rom) version is written on the sticker on top of the drive (red circle on image below):

And 0078FK is what I see as my rom version. I'll look more into it tomorrow since i'm tired, it's late, and I'm just pretty upset and angry right now being I can't play any games. If that's not it, how would you go about finding the version #? The tutorial I'm reading covered Backing Up, Modifying & Flashing the Hitachi/LG Drive (32, 36, 40, 46, 47 & 59 FWs). I'm assuming 32, 36, 40, etc. is the version number? I just assumed that the slax cd will change any hitachi drive into mode b.

as for the slax response, you mean boot the slax cd off of the xbox 360 drive, rite?

Thanks for the quick reply.

This post has been edited by MaXeEmOe: Nov 19 2006, 08:12 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: fr3aky on November 19, 2006, 12:10:00 AM

maxeme you wrote before that you had the 0078 and later u said u didnt know witch version you had, just read the label on top of ur drive, is should be written on the top of the label

also for the slax cd u should be using the second installment as its more compatible, worked fine for me
you should boot from your pc drive , not your 360 one

also, if you run across a 0078 the only thing you can do right now is make the drive show up un windows
you cant doo anything unless you desolder the chip and flash it via a programer

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 19, 2006, 12:21:00 AM

QUOTE(fr3aky @ Nov 19 2006, 02:17 AM)

fr3aky,

The only numbers that can give me a clue as to what the version number is for my drive are:

1) the number below the model name
2) the number below the "5V/12V"
3) the S/N above the rom version

as for the slax cd, where would I go to get that second installment?

And yeah, I already know that there's no way to do the firmware upgrade thru software courtesy of microsoft. So far it sounds to me I might have used an old slax cd. I hope it's just that. Thanks for you quick reply.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: fr3aky on November 19, 2006, 12:24:00 AM

can you take a photo of ur label ill tell you

for the slax cd do a search for p_slax2[1].0_alpha1.iso

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 19, 2006, 12:33:00 AM

QUOTE(fr3aky @ Nov 19 2006, 02:31 AM)

can you take a photo of ur label ill tell you

for the slax cd do a search for p_slax2[1].0_alpha1.iso

Sure, I'll post it for you tomorrow. I'm DLing the iso you pointed me to and gonna try it out before I hit the sack. Thanks!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 19, 2006, 02:23:00 AM

Damn, I just tried that second installment of slax cd and it didn't seem to work. So I figured I might try the cross wire trick, but I came across this by garyopa:

#1: You can only get the drive into Mode B using any of Slax CD's that work on the other Hitachi drives, you CAN NOT use the external "cross-wire" or "Team-X" or "Xeno" connect kits to get into Debug.

So does that mean if I cant use the slax cd's, i'm just outta luck?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: fr3aky on November 19, 2006, 02:25:00 AM

have you disabled the raid function from your controller ... might just be it

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: subplay on November 19, 2006, 08:17:00 AM

I reckon you should just buy a connectivity kit if its not a 0078fk instead of arsing around with slax, or hotwire trick you will only end up with a burn`t out board the hotwire way if your not sure how to do it.

With a connectivity kits its a simple as push a button load windows then flash**.bat

get the idea

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dynt on November 19, 2006, 08:25:00 AM

QUOTE(MaXeEmOe @ Nov 19 2006, 11:30 AM)

IT still seems you havent sorted out which drive yo have dont attempt the hot wire trick with out knowing this if you have the hitachi 78 your fucked any way so why risk your console

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: fr3aky on November 19, 2006, 08:32:00 AM

if its a 0078 the connectivity kit wont do no good ... so you should stick to learning how the mecanics works instead of trying the easy path, one again if its a 0078 the connectivuty kit wont work on a 0078 since the vcc trick has been disabled

so you should still be trying various things with the slax cd as its your only hope of seeing your drive in windows right now

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 19, 2006, 10:43:00 AM

QUOTE(fr3aky @ Nov 19 2006, 04:32 AM)

have you disabled the raid function from your controller ... might just be it

The only option in my bios that comes close to this function is a setting called "SATA RAID ROM". I can either enable or disable it. Currently it's disabled. This is found thru the submenu Integrated Peripherals > OnChip IDE Device > SATA RAID ROM.

note: I realized that when I boot Windows without the xbox360 connected to the SATA, the SATA RAID controller under Device Manager is working normally. But when I connect the xbox 360 drive and then boot to Windows, it says that there is a problem with the device. So I permanently disabled the controller thru Windows, and retried hooking the xbox 360 drive. No luck...

The next closest thing associated to RAID is my Bootable Add-In Device setting. I can either choose PCI Slot Device or OnChip SATA RAID. Currently it's on PCI Slot. This is found through the submenu Advanced BIOS features > Bootable Add-In Device.

fr3aky, here's my snapshot of my DVD:

Hitachi DVD

I don't know if someone asked this already, but is it possible to just buy a hackable Samsung or Hitachi drive online & just connect it to the 360? Either already hackable or that I can hack thru geebee'z guide? I think I read somewhere that you can't do that because of the different chipset on the xbox 360 motherboard, but I'm not too sure.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: fes_786 on November 19, 2006, 12:16:00 PM

the hitachi has the memdump command diabled?....correct?

but the update command is still in place i think?

if we could just send it an update or somthing to re enable the memdump command then it should open up 2 us?

any suggestions or has some one already tried?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: thecheekymonkey on November 19, 2006, 01:25:00 PM

QUOTE(MaXeEmOe @ Nov 19 2006, 07:50 PM)

look matey, if it is a 0078 drive, theres nothing you can do, no amount of getting it to show in windows will do anything (yet, till a software version comes out, which of course i suppose your preparing for).

anyways, yes you can go get a new drive, but to make it work youll need the key from your old drive.

and again, getting the key from the old drive is extremely hard work, and theres no guarantee you wont destroy it in the process.

just sit tight buddy and wait for mr opa to do his work

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: fr3aky on November 19, 2006, 01:42:00 PM

max have u come to see the drive somewhere in the boot process ?
in yur bios i mean

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 19, 2006, 02:05:00 PM

QUOTE(thecheekymonkey @ Nov 19 2006, 03:32 PM)

look matey, if it is a 0078 drive, theres nothing you can do, no amount of getting it to show in windows will do anything (yet, till a software version comes out, which of course i suppose your preparing for).
anyways, yes you can go get a new drive, but to make it work youll need the key from your old drive.

and again, getting the key from the old drive is extremely hard work, and theres no guarantee you wont destroy it in the process.

just sit tight buddy and wait for mr opa to do his work

I know. There's really no point as of right now to get the thing to work since the software hasn't come out yet. Just wanna stay at the head of the pack that's all. So I'll stop whining for now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just one more question until I'll just check this forum for updates. How many slax cd's are out for the hitachi? There's only two (live & alpha 2), correct? Just wanna make sure I've covered all the angles.

thanks

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: fr3aky on November 19, 2006, 02:09:00 PM

i have one question left ... do you have native sata ports on your mainboard ?
if so u could try running the alpha version i pointed out for you with these ports this way, if it doesnt work u will be sure that your setup is wrong
or u are doing something wrong

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 19, 2006, 02:57:00 PM

QUOTE(fr3aky @ Nov 19 2006, 03:49 PM)

max have u come to see the drive somewhere in the boot process ?
in yur bios i mean

After booting into Windows after the slax installation, rebooted again to check to see if the hitachi drive shows up during boot process. nope. so rebooted again and went into bios to see if drive was detected. nope.

hope that answers ur question

QUOTE(fr3aky @ Nov 19 2006, 04:16 PM)

here's my mobo spec:

http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/techsp...1&model=201

you know, i'm gonna feel really stupid if the whole time, my SATA's weren't native. i just figured my board is compatible since the earlier tutorials said my mobo has a via chipset and i have the onboard SATA for the connections.

*waits in suspense*

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: fr3aky on November 20, 2006, 09:23:00 AM

max i THINK your board isnt compatible since its only raid some boards cant comunicate with cd roms on the SATA channel to me it seems thats what is your problem, try to get this card SYBA SY-VIA-150R PCI SATA

UPDATE i just read about your configuration, yes you have a via chipset, but... its the 8237 witch works only in raid mode thats what is your problem try another pc with a different chipset or get the card i stated above you will then have no problem getting your 0078 in mode b

cheers

This post has been edited by fr3aky: Nov 20 2006, 05:38 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: phantom2k on November 20, 2006, 12:17:00 PM

Just got a core from Gamestation in Clapham London and found the date as 14.08.06 when I opened the tray it looks like the Samsung tray so does this mean that I DEF have a samsung drive and that it can be flashed as don't want to open it yet unless it can be flashed...

The lot Number: 0633

TEAM: FDOU

Thanks in advacne

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Master_Yoda69 on November 20, 2006, 02:40:00 PM

QUOTE(phantom2k @ Nov 20 2006, 08:24 PM)

well if you have a samsung drive (small hole in end of the tray nearest you and not a small hole either side of the larger hole in the middle) then you do have a Samsung that can definatly be flashed.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: brody34 on November 21, 2006, 10:54:00 AM

QUOTE(phantom2k @ Nov 20 2006, 07:24 PM)

yes, you'll no doubt have a samsung ms28 like me. i swapped my 78fk 360 and got lucky receiving a sammy in return. it has exactly the same man. date, team and lot number as yours.

the ms28s are a bit harder to flash than the 25s from what i've been reading and trying though(have been unsuccessful with a newlink alim5283 card), so make sure you read up carefully before you spend money on stuff if you're flashing it yourself. make sure you get a sata card with a VIA chipset and nothing else. i'm getting one from here for £15: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Newdigitalshop

sorry to all that this is off topic..

This post has been edited by brody34: Nov 21 2006, 07:02 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: MaXeEmOe on November 21, 2006, 06:47:00 PM

well, i came across this post referring to my abit av8 board. A person was having trouble installing a SATA HD and a fellow guru had this to say:

" If you are gonna run a NON RAID setup, DO NOT install any drivers at all.
Just plug in the SATA cable to the drive and to socket 1 on the MB.
Attach the power cable and the drive will appear in the first bios screen.
That is the screen where you can set the date and time.
Now on the next page go to the first boot device area.
There is a box that you click on and open it, there you will see your new SATA hard drive.
Select that drive as the boot device.
Save and exit, you are good to go. "

here is the link if anyone is interested. Scroll down to BobyJo's first response:
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=115891

Although it's making a reference to installing a SATA HD, it involves getting a SATA recognized for Windows. I'm just wondering if anyone else did the same process where they DIDN'T install drivers to get the Hitachi to show up and had success?

And yes, I already tried doing this procedure, first without slax cd's to see if Windows picked it up, then with slax. Still nada

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: manicminer on November 22, 2006, 01:57:00 AM

I thought this thread was about help on the 0078fk?

Didn't realise it was newbie central on how to identify a rom or advertise services!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it possible we can get back to the point of this thread so we can all stop getting update emails on whether someone has got a M28 or not, or whether a certain sata card will work?

No need for any rebuttle unless you have an update on the 0078fk.

Cheers

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ']['enacious on November 22, 2006, 05:30:00 AM

QUOTE(manicminer @ Nov 22 2006, 11:04 AM)

well said.. we should stick to the point so other users can find useful information instead of scouring over pages of useless unnecessary shit.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: modz360 on November 22, 2006, 03:59:00 PM

i think im just gonna go the hardware route......what willem programmer has someone used that i can get off ebay....if someone can post a link for one that would help......i know i need the tsop adater

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: lilepic on November 23, 2006, 12:37:00 PM

Hi there just wondering if anybody could point me in the right direction for the sst chips that are required to dump the firmware back on to. Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: lufcfan on November 23, 2006, 12:52:00 PM

QUOTE(lilepic @ Nov 23 2006, 07:44 PM)

Hi there just wondering if anybody could point me in the right direction for the sst chips that are required to dump the firmware back on to. Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks

Got 3 SST39SF020A chips from this guy - fast service and a real helpful seller - he can even program the chip for you if you wish...

http://bios-repair.co.uk/

Based in the UK by the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bricklayer on November 23, 2006, 01:21:00 PM

QUOTE(lilepic @ Nov 23 2006, 07:44 PM)

Hi there just wondering if anybody could point me in the right direction for the sst chips that are required to dump the firmware back on to. Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks

i would try 39vf020 as these seem to be the correct voltage.
the 39sf020a uses higher voltages i think.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: brody34 on November 23, 2006, 02:06:00 PM

QUOTE(manicminer @ Nov 22 2006, 09:04 AM)

i stated that i was sorry if my reply was off topic. i was simply trying to help someone out.

i symapthise with everyone that has a 78fk.. i had one too. i simply decided to take action and risk exchanging my opened box and in doing so got lucky getting one with a sammy drive.

perhaps others here (who the majority of no doubt bought their 360s from retailers in the last couple of months) may consider doing the same thing...

nuff said. i'm outta here.. good luck with your 78fks, hope there's a s/w solution out soon for y'all

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: skUNksTA on November 24, 2006, 04:58:00 AM

I see Gary is at work on the last part of a software flash for this drive from another well know web site only posted a few days ago.So i would say its safe to say in the next 2 weeks we will see a easy software flash for this drive (cough fingers crossed).

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: AndyGT on November 24, 2006, 07:00:00 AM

what site is that?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mcgough on November 24, 2006, 07:07:00 AM

QUOTE(skUNksTA @ Nov 24 2006, 02:05 PM)

Yeah, care to share your source?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 24, 2006, 10:22:00 AM

Im still getting my head round this????

is there anyone out there who will take 360's with 0078fk drives and remove flash and replace chip for us???

and i have got the chip out of mine but dunno how to get the keys or anything! Its doin my head in!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: h23jdmlude on November 24, 2006, 08:59:00 PM

i just bought a 360 tonight

it was manufactured on 2006-09-08 , and it has the 0078fk dvd drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: smittykoi on November 25, 2006, 04:06:00 AM

QUOTE(lufcfan @ Nov 23 2006, 07:59 PM)

How much it cost ya for the ( 3 sst chips ) ? if you dont mind me asking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: lufcfan on November 25, 2006, 05:33:00 AM

QUOTE(smittykoi @ Nov 25 2006, 11:13 AM)

How much it cost ya for the ( 3 sst chips ) ? if you dont mind me asking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Sure thing... £3.99 per chip and (I think) about £1.99 postage - so about £15 altogether, and they arrived the next day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: skUNksTA on November 25, 2006, 06:29:00 AM

xboxhacker.net dudes not sure on if i can post the full link but its a forum just like this.But where the big boys play. (btw me being not one of the big boys just a fellow noob well ish)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 25, 2006, 10:18:00 AM

http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?topic=4311.180

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: manicminer on November 25, 2006, 12:10:00 PM

QUOTE(skUNksTA @ Nov 24 2006, 12:05 PM)

I have been following the other thread on the other site, please let me know where it states that "Gary" is at work on the last part of the software flash????????????

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on November 26, 2006, 04:45:00 AM

ive found some bits that he is doin well on them! just keep your eye out on the above links and see what hes now lookin into! if you know alot about flashing you will see he is doin well!.

i think we all want it done so lets be nice and possitive about this!
or buy a willem thingy and get the soldering gun out.

I'm fluent in JavaScript as well as Klingon.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Djee on November 26, 2006, 04:46:00 PM

I just bought xbox 360 and the manifacturing date on it is 2006-06-10 do you guys think its a 78fk firmware? I know its a LG DVD drive. btw i bought it in Canada. I dont know if that change something but anyway more info is always better.

Djee...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: toddgei on November 27, 2006, 01:12:00 AM

QUOTE(Djee @ Nov 27 2006, 12:53 AM)

It wont be a 78 drive cos the manfacturing date is 10 June 2006. They use japanese dates on the 360 which is year-mm-dd.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Adam19 on November 27, 2006, 02:18:00 AM

Anyone know if a 360 with the manufacturing date of 8/8/2006 will have the new 078 drive?

Also anyone know of any stores in the UK which are still selling 360's with 59 drives?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Djee on November 27, 2006, 04:17:00 AM

When i first bought a 360 2 days ago i opened the xbox and i saw that i had a 78fk drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . So i went back to the store and i say it was defect and took another one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif) . i checked then manifacturing date before choosing another one. I think i was lucky to find one that was old.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: h23jdmlude on November 27, 2006, 09:28:00 AM

QUOTE(Djee @ Nov 27 2006, 12:24 PM)

i checked the manufacturing date too before i bought mine . but the place i got mine at keep the 360s back in the stock room, it was hard for me to have the employee bring me several of them out just for me to check a date ..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: behroozaraz on November 27, 2006, 11:16:00 AM

i'm sure a software hack for this drive will be out soon, but as impatient as i am, i just couldn't wait, so i sold my new xbox with the Hitachi 0078FK drive on ebay, went to gamestop, checked a few manufacturing dates, and bought a used one....it's the 46d hitachi, flashed it, backed up all of games, they all work!! good thing too, i was playing my copy of ncaa football 07 when i heard the drive making some funny noises...i took the disc out to find a nice circular scratch around the entire disc, thank goodness i backed this game up, otherwise i'd be out 50 bucks.....i really hope they get you guys the software you need....if you're impatient like me, i suggest buying a used one, sell yours on ebay...mine sold in less than 5 hours for 40 dollars more than i initially paid for it, and my used one was 30 dollars less than my new one! can't beat that deal

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Djfunkbomb on November 27, 2006, 02:10:00 PM

Anyone know if these drives are in the US yet, you guys have mostly likely mentioned it before but if someone could let me know that would be awsome.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gtrdude485 on November 27, 2006, 03:45:00 PM

yes they are go for the earliest date possible.

Any news on the release?

This post has been edited by gtrdude485: Nov 27 2006, 11:45 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on November 27, 2006, 04:11:00 PM

Can anyone VERIFY that Firmware Tools 2 will CORRECTLY identify the key in the original firmware.bin once read using a programmer after the chip is removed from the board.

Or can someone post info on how to extrect the key and then patch it into the hacked fw before reprogramming a replacement chip.

All advice welcome, but from people who have ACTUALLY done this.

Thx in advance

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Anthem on November 27, 2006, 04:30:00 PM

QUOTE(Djfunkbomb @ Nov 27 2006, 04:17 PM)

Anyone know if these drives are in the US yet, you guys have mostly likely mentioned it before but if someone could let me know that would be awsome.

Yes, I bought an XBox on black friday and I have a 78FK in peices on my floor. Anyone wanna trade? :-P

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Djfunkbomb on November 27, 2006, 07:57:00 PM

My 360 was manufactured 05/23/06 and i bought it in the US. Do you guys think it has the v0078FK drive or did they start putting it in afterwards because i would rather not open my xbox up it it is the wrong dvd drive. BTW it is a hitachi drive.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: SpareXX on November 28, 2006, 12:17:00 AM

You should be ok, the drives wasnt put in before mid-august.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: faelagund on November 28, 2006, 02:57:00 AM

Maybe this is the wrong place to ask (i'm pretty new to the scene) but how likely is it that we'll be able to patch the hitachi 0078 firmware only using software (not having to remove the chip)?

And just as an educated guess, if possible, around how long does something like this usually take to figure out?

I'm just wondering if I should start looking on ebay for another xbox (used of course).

Thanks all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gtrdude485 on November 28, 2006, 05:36:00 AM

if you arent going to lose any $ get one with a samsung. there's news that games under 4.7 GB are going to be able to be backed up to a dvd-r and still playable on the 360 woth a samsung drive but its up to you...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: behroozaraz on November 28, 2006, 06:05:00 AM

my advice to people looking to buy an xbox360, buy a used one at a game stop, or somewhere where they sell used games and consoles....best decision i made was selling my 360 with the Hitachi 0078FK drive on ebay and buying a used one

This post has been edited by behroozaraz: Nov 28 2006, 02:06 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: bricklayer on November 28, 2006, 01:10:00 PM

just to advise the unwary 78fk owners!
there are fake firmwares about for this drive.
i posted info on the other site and got this verified by garyopa.
it seems the fakes will brick your 78,so dont use it.
wait for genuine garyopa firmwares which no doubt will be verified in the usual places.

bricklayer,

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on November 28, 2006, 02:38:00 PM

SUCCESS !!!!!!

Via loads of reading and info , alot from this thread, I have managed to do my 1st 0078FK using a programmer.

Took me a couple of hours as was on a STEEP learning curve but next one will take half that time.

Knowing sods law the software method will probably be released tomorrow but what the hell, at least I did it the hard way too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Many thx to all those who have contributed to the info that led to me finally getting it done.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dieleere on November 28, 2006, 03:00:00 PM

congrats akastaff! i bet it feels pretty darn good and worth it now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: crazyorange on November 29, 2006, 03:29:00 AM

can I get the key without remove the chip?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gopher2005 on November 29, 2006, 03:35:00 AM

QUOTE(crazyorange @ Nov 29 2006, 01:44 PM)

can I get the key without remove the chip?

if you take the time to read the thread you would no the answer which is NO not without removeing the chip and dumping the firmware.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on November 29, 2006, 05:02:00 AM

Some really want to wake up and smell the roses.

THIS ONE IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY...

Even with a software version I doubt it will be straight-forward.

It took me 3 weeks of trawling forums, researching equipment not to mention a few hundred quid in gear to successfully do ONE of these 78FK's. Kepts me busy though whilst waiting.

If you cannot comprehend reading through a few pages of a forum then...

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING EVEN TRYING TO HACK A 360 !!! - Your to stupid to even attempt it !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

CLARIFICATION TIME AGAIN !!!

1) You CANNOT read the FW or Key whilst it is on the drive (ATM)
2) YOU must REMOVE the chip WITHOUT damaging it, thats beat the epoxy both round and under the chip, DESOLDER IT with suitable tools (personally use hot air rework)
3) Use a programmer that CAN handle the 39VF020, Get the FW Dump / Patch the 1.6 FW / Encrypt and Re-program a new chip. AFAIK you cannot use a SF version but the 40 version works fine, can even duel bank it.
4) RESOLDER the chip to the board 100% (this is where most go wrong) I rework and tack just to make sure and also check all 32 pins to local points. Good quality iron and rework station / board cleaner / flux and don't drink before doing it, though one quicky can help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
5) Have good credit with GOD cos as you switch on your gonna be on your knee's praying !!!

Sorry to sound off but 99% of the info you need is in this thread, the other 1% is out there, you just need to look rather than hoping others will do the work for you. Rinse n repeat of the same question over and over again is just plain frustrating for those who are awaiting progress.

I'm more than happy to help someone with problems that are not eplained here otherwise I'm gonna scan my middle finger and send a .jpg (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

NB. Com'on Gary ... i dares you to release a version today, always happens after I've done it the hard way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: nooz on November 29, 2006, 05:09:00 AM

Xecuter X78 - New modchip for 0078's

Looking at what Akastaff wrote it seem the hardware flash method is fine. I might just hold on and wait (patiently) for software flash method for the 78's...

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: taximan89 on November 29, 2006, 11:54:00 AM

Can anyone confirm a software method has been released?
from: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=567312
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
XTRM-HITACHI_v3.1 Stealth v78
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
*** MOST OF THE WORK IS FROM garyOPA, even most of this Readme File ***
*** TESTED ON V78 ***

FEATURES (my contribution on this release):

* Removed old media detection and replaced with better media detection
(media detection ver 2) from Geremia.
* Incorporates Maximus Firmware Stealth (Full Firmware Stealth)

***********************************************************************

FLASH78.BAT: Flashes your drive with 3.1 Fw Stealth (Media Detect 2,
F900 core and Firwmare Stealth

RESTORE.BAT: Return your drive to original State, even if you have
firmware stealth in your drive

*RECOMENDATION: If you have flashed your drive in the past use RESTORE
first. If it is a brand new drive use directly the Flash command you
like. If you dont plan to use your drive to dump games use the
flash15s.bat

* ALL NEW XTREME V3.1 FIRMWARE FOR v78 BUILDS OF THE HITACHI DRIVES!

- includes "Security Sector Extraction" v78 Hitachi Drives

- Included media detection 2 from Geremia and Maximus Firmware
Stealth, this release just supports SS Extraction within Windows
without the need to re-flash your drive back and forth between
PLAY & RIP!

Flashing your drive
-------------------
FLASH22S.BAT automatically makes a complete backup of your firmware system

* To FLASH a drive, it must be in "Mode B" and have "Drive Letter"
* Then just run FLASH78 from "Command Prompt" while inside windows
* Prompt must be at the same directory with the rest of the files!

* FLASH78 needs two variables, the assigned "Drive Letter", and any 4
numbers for the BACKUP directory, use a new unique number like 1572

- This is used to make your BACKUP directory!

- For Example: FLASH78.BAT H 1572

- Will cause the FLASH after running to have, a BACKUP directory
"X78-1572" and the program will store FIVE firmware files:

---- key.bin ---- DRIVE KEY /// DRIVE KEY
---- was.bin ---- Your drive before FLASH
---- gdrXX.bin ---- The untouch original fw
---- XX_22.bin ---- The patched Xtreme22 fw
---- now.bin ---- Your drive after FLASH!

- Where the XX in the above names will be the version of your Hitachi

* Program will not start unless a BACKUP is correctly made and stored!

* Flash will auto-detect your firmware build of your Hitachi drive.

* You can flash any drive, even "v1.1" or "f900" or your own hacks.

* System will check flashed firmware, and redo until 100% completed.

* Once you get the PASS / DONE line, you can shut-down the system.

FLASH15S.BAT is the same as above but, without F900 core, use this
if you dont want to extract SS with your drive.

Restoring your drive
--------------------
RESTORE.BAT automatically restores your drive back to original state

* To RESTORE a drive, it must be in "Mode B" and have "Drive Letter"
* Then just run RESTORE from "Command Prompt" while running windows.

* The new RESTORE does not need any backup, it will 100% restore your
drive back to "ORIGINAL" state as long as it is visible in Windows!

* Program will not start unless it detects the version of your Hitachi!

* You can restore any drive, even "v1.1" or "f900" or your own hacks.

* System will check flashed firmware, and redo until 100% completed.

* Once you get the PASS / DONE line, you can shut-down the system.

Features
--------
Here it is, the long awaited World's first Xbox 360 backup firmware
modification to boot game backups on Hitachi GDR-3120-L DVD drives!

But, now complete with "Security Sector" Extraction to make your
own backup of original Xbox 360 and XBOX 1 games on your system.

Boots all Xtreme Xbox 360 backups
Boots all Xtreme Xbox 1 backups supported by emulator
Boots all Xbox 360 originals
Boots all Xbox 1 originals supported by emulator

Use on Xbox Live at your own risk

Technical details
-----------------
Security sectors are read in this order:

Reads Xbox 360 security sector from PSN 04FB1F (Layer 0)
Reads Xbox 1 security sector from PSN 605FF (Layer 0)
Reads Xbox 360 security sector from PSN FD021E (Layer 1)

Flashes sector 90003000 (Xtreme Custom Code)
Flashes sector 9003e000 (Master Checksum)
Flashes sector 90035000 (Security Sector Read)
Flashes sector 90034000 (Media Detect)
Flashes sector 90027000 (Challenge Response 2/2)
Flashes sector 90026000 (Challenge Response 1/2)
Flashes sector 90025000 (Mode B to A 2/2)
Flashes sector 90024000 (Mode B to A 1/2)
Flashes sector 9001d000 (Game Unlock)
Flashes sector 9001c000 (Drive Response Table Decrypt)
Flashes sector 9000a000 (UNDO Tray Tweak)
Flashes sector 90006000 (Mode B Tweak)

Extracting Security Sector
--------------------------

* Drive first be FLASHed with our Xtreme v3.1 firmware.

* Ensure SATA cable is plugged from Hitachi drive to PC.

* Ensure XBOX video cable is pluggd into back of console.

* Power on the Xbox 360 console.

* Open the drive Tray, by pressing the EJECT button.

* Pull the power plug on xbox 360 from back of console.

* This will force the console to leave the tray in the OPEN position.

* Plug the power brick back into the Xbox 360.

* Power on Xbox 360 using the "power" button.

* Drive is now in Mode B.

* Turn on your PC and wait for Windows to boot.

* Insert original game disk into drive.

* And wait for windows to detect disk change.

* Run the included "GETSS.EXE" program from a "command prompt" like so:

- GETSS E SS.BIN

- Replace the "E" used in the above example
with the correct assigned "Drive Letter"!

Creating a game backup
----------------------

* Full info above to make the "SS.BIN" file first.

* Extract the included "ISOBUILD.RAR" package.

* Insert original game disk into drive.

* And wait for windows to detect disk change.

* Run Isobuster

- Right click on DVD and select Extract From-To

- Click Length and enter number of LBAs as follows:

- Xbox 1 Original Number of LBA to read 3431264 decimal

or

- Xbox 360 Original Number of LBA to read 3567872 decimal

- Select User Data (2048 bytes/block)

- Click Start Extraction

- Enter filename as game.iso and click Save

- Upon read error dialogue box choose fill with blank zeros
for sector and select use this selection for all errors

* Copy game.iso and ss.bin to the relevent isobuilder directory
(Depending on Xbox 360 or Xbox 1 game)

* Run build360.bat (Xbox 360 game) or build.bat (xbox 1 game)

* Ensure your burner will set the booktype of DVD+R DL to DVDRom

* Burn with CloneCd and choose the image.dvd file

Support & Thanks
----------------
Thanks to everyone at Xboxhacker.net for all their discussions.
Thanks go to Seventhson for flashsec and memdump.
Thanks go to Loser for firmcrypt.
Thanks go to Team Avalaunch for their support.

Many thanks to "Commorode4eva" for the original v47 release...
Many thanks to "Spectrum4eva" for the original F900 release...
Many thanks to "Birdy" for the Mode B tweak...
Many thanks to "Geremia" for the better media detection...
Many thanks to "Exobex" for Windows 2000 support.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on November 29, 2006, 12:28:00 PM

To the guy above

7 posts up on the same freakin' page

QUOTE(bricklayer @ Nov 28 2006, 10:25 PM)

Read before posting.

This post has been edited by Hopeful: Nov 29 2006, 08:42 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: toddgei on November 29, 2006, 09:33:00 PM

QUOTE(Hopeful @ Nov 29 2006, 09:43 PM)

To the guy above

7 posts up on the same freakin' page

Read before posting.

But this is different though, the fake firmwares are ones that have to be used through a programmer that will brick your drive. At this point there is no way to write to the chip unless it is removed so this firmware report is something entirely different hence the reason for the confusion because this release cant brick your drive because there is no way yet to write to the chip through software.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on November 29, 2006, 10:45:00 PM

You have an intelligent note, however it is totally beside the point

"just to advise the unwary 78fk owners!
there are fake firmwares about for this drive.
i posted info on the other site and got this verified by garyopa.
(nevermind this line)
wait for genuine garyopa firmwares which no doubt will be verified in the usual places."

= 15 seconds of reading / obvious answer

This post has been edited by Hopeful: Nov 30 2006, 06:47 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: xboxto on December 01, 2006, 11:44:00 AM

Been a quiet day today! no post on this or other sites!
Sure you guys are probably just hard at work! if you need a 0078fk give me a holla!

regards
xboxto

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: thecheekymonkey on December 01, 2006, 12:07:00 PM

QUOTE(taximan89 @ Nov 29 2006, 10:09 PM)

Can anyone confirm a software method has been released?
from: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=567312
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
XTRM-HITACHI_v3.1 Stealth v78
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
*** MOST OF THE WORK IS FROM garyOPA, even most of this Readme File ***
*** TESTED ON V78 ***
FEATURES (my contribution on this release):

* Removed old media detection and replaced with better media detection
(media detection ver 2) from Geremia.
* Incorporates Maximus Firmware Stealth (Full Firmware Stealth)

***********************************************************************

FLASH78.BAT: Flashes your drive with 3.1 Fw Stealth (Media Detect 2,
F900 core and Firwmare Stealth
RESTORE.BAT: Return your drive to original State, even if you have
firmware stealth in your drive
*RECOMENDATION: If you have flashed your drive in the past use RESTORE
first. If it is a brand new drive use directly the Flash command you
like. If you dont plan to use your drive to dump games use the
flash15s.bat
* ALL NEW XTREME V3.1 FIRMWARE FOR v78 BUILDS OF THE HITACHI DRIVES!

- includes "Security Sector Extraction" v78 Hitachi Drives

- Included media detection 2 from Geremia and Maximus Firmware
Stealth, this release just supports SS Extraction within Windows
without the need to re-flash your drive back and forth between
PLAY & RIP!
Flashing your drive
-------------------
FLASH22S.BAT automatically makes a complete backup of your firmware system

* To FLASH a drive, it must be in "Mode B" and have "Drive Letter"
* Then just run FLASH78 from "Command Prompt" while inside windows
* Prompt must be at the same directory with the rest of the files!

* FLASH78 needs two variables, the assigned "Drive Letter", and any 4
numbers for the BACKUP directory, use a new unique number like 1572

- This is used to make your BACKUP directory!

- For Example: FLASH78.BAT H 1572

- Will cause the FLASH after running to have, a BACKUP directory
"X78-1572" and the program will store FIVE firmware files:

---- key.bin ---- DRIVE KEY /// DRIVE KEY
---- was.bin ---- Your drive before FLASH
---- gdrXX.bin ---- The untouch original fw
---- XX_22.bin ---- The patched Xtreme22 fw
---- now.bin ---- Your drive after FLASH!

- Where the XX in the above names will be the version of your Hitachi

* Program will not start unless a BACKUP is correctly made and stored!

* Flash will auto-detect your firmware build of your Hitachi drive.

* You can flash any drive, even "v1.1" or "f900" or your own hacks.

* System will check flashed firmware, and redo until 100% completed.

* Once you get the PASS / DONE line, you can shut-down the system.
FLASH15S.BAT is the same as above but, without F900 core, use this
if you dont want to extract SS with your drive.
Restoring your drive
--------------------
RESTORE.BAT automatically restores your drive back to original state

* To RESTORE a drive, it must be in "Mode B" and have "Drive Letter"
* Then just run RESTORE from "Command Prompt" while running windows.

* The new RESTORE does not need any backup, it will 100% restore your
drive back to "ORIGINAL" state as long as it is visible in Windows!

* Program will not start unless it detects the version of your Hitachi!

* You can restore any drive, even "v1.1" or "f900" or your own hacks.

* System will check flashed firmware, and redo until 100% completed.

* Once you get the PASS / DONE line, you can shut-down the system.
Features
--------
Here it is, the long awaited World's first Xbox 360 backup firmware
modification to boot game backups on Hitachi GDR-3120-L DVD drives!

But, now complete with "Security Sector" Extraction to make your
own backup of original Xbox 360 and XBOX 1 games on your system.

Boots all Xtreme Xbox 360 backups
Boots all Xtreme Xbox 1 backups supported by emulator
Boots all Xbox 360 originals
Boots all Xbox 1 originals supported by emulator

Use on Xbox Live at your own risk
Technical details
-----------------
Security sectors are read in this order:

Reads Xbox 360 security sector from PSN 04FB1F (Layer 0)
Reads Xbox 1 security sector from PSN 605FF (Layer 0)
Reads Xbox 360 security sector from PSN FD021E (Layer 1)

Flashes sector 90003000 (Xtreme Custom Code)
Flashes sector 9003e000 (Master Checksum)
Flashes sector 90035000 (Security Sector Read)
Flashes sector 90034000 (Media Detect)
Flashes sector 90027000 (Challenge Response 2/2)
Flashes sector 90026000 (Challenge Response 1/2)
Flashes sector 90025000 (Mode B to A 2/2)
Flashes sector 90024000 (Mode B to A 1/2)
Flashes sector 9001d000 (Game Unlock)
Flashes sector 9001c000 (Drive Response Table Decrypt)
Flashes sector 9000a000 (UNDO Tray Tweak)
Flashes sector 90006000 (Mode B Tweak)
Extracting Security Sector
--------------------------

* Drive first be FLASHed with our Xtreme v3.1 firmware.

* Ensure SATA cable is plugged from Hitachi drive to PC.

* Ensure XBOX video cable is pluggd into back of console.

* Power on the Xbox 360 console.

* Open the drive Tray, by pressing the EJECT button.

* Pull the power plug on xbox 360 from back of console.

* This will force the console to leave the tray in the OPEN position.

* Plug the power brick back into the Xbox 360.

* Power on Xbox 360 using the "power" button.

* Drive is now in Mode B.

* Turn on your PC and wait for Windows to boot.

* Insert original game disk into drive.

* And wait for windows to detect disk change.

* Run the included "GETSS.EXE" program from a "command prompt" like so:

- GETSS E SS.BIN

- Replace the "E" used in the above example
with the correct assigned "Drive Letter"!
Creating a game backup
----------------------

* Full info above to make the "SS.BIN" file first.

* Extract the included "ISOBUILD.RAR" package.

* Insert original game disk into drive.

* And wait for windows to detect disk change.

* Run Isobuster

- Right click on DVD and select Extract From-To

- Click Length and enter number of LBAs as follows:

- Xbox 1 Original Number of LBA to read 3431264 decimal

or

- Xbox 360 Original Number of LBA to read 3567872 decimal

- Select User Data (2048 bytes/block)

- Click Start Extraction

- Enter filename as game.iso and click Save

- Upon read error dialogue box choose fill with blank zeros
for sector and select use this selection for all errors

* Copy game.iso and ss.bin to the relevent isobuilder directory
(Depending on Xbox 360 or Xbox 1 game)

* Run build360.bat (Xbox 360 game) or build.bat (xbox 1 game)

* Ensure your burner will set the booktype of DVD+R DL to DVDRom

* Burn with CloneCd and choose the image.dvd file
Support & Thanks
----------------
Thanks to everyone at Xboxhacker.net for all their discussions.
Thanks go to Seventhson for flashsec and memdump.
Thanks go to Loser for firmcrypt.
Thanks go to Team Avalaunch for their support.

Many thanks to "Commorode4eva" for the original v47 release...
Many thanks to "Spectrum4eva" for the original F900 release...
Many thanks to "Birdy" for the Mode B tweak...
Many thanks to "Geremia" for the better media detection...
Many thanks to "Exobex" for Windows 2000 support.

QUOTE(toddgei @ Nov 30 2006, 07:48 AM)

Sorry but your incorrect.

there are no releases out that will flash your 078 drive via software (the usual way)

there are no firmwares released that will brick your drive by using it with an external programmer.
cuz if you `brick` it with an external progger, you can just remove the chip and prog it again.

there are no fake releases out for the 078fk drive that will brick it. i could be wrong, but i mean c`mon people use your brains, if using a dodgy fake 078 flash pack will brick, its got to some how write to the drive.

if it could do this, we would have a working software solution.

just wait for gary or for team-xecuter 9to release there chips)

ive just managed to do one of these 078 drives via the external method.

wasnt easy and 4 xbox 360s died along the way, but now that ive sussed out where i was going wrong (combination of dodgy progger and dry joints) i`m fairly confident i can do these no problems now.

but belive me it aint easy, and i`m certainly no novice to solder / re-work.

This post has been edited by thecheekymonkey: Dec 1 2006, 08:08 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on December 02, 2006, 08:25:00 AM

Got my new xbox 0078fk done now so all good! But havin so many issues backing up games! I get my games from torrents for which i have the original of course. But i have used 6 dvd's not got any to wor?

there all pal im in uk! so that should be ok!

i burn using clonedvd, alcohol, nero and using printable dvd dl +r disks and verbitam dl +r disks.

Am i doin stuff wrong guys?????

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: thecheekymonkey on December 02, 2006, 09:39:00 AM

QUOTE(josseys @ Dec 2 2006, 06:40 PM)

have you actually got any backups working at all? if not them maybe your drive isnt done.

whats happening when the backups dont work? on screen messages etc etc.

bit more detail.

also you obviously have a hitachi drive, what burner are you using? hitachis work best with pioneer drive (rec 111d)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on December 02, 2006, 08:33:00 AM

using pionner 111 bought today

none worked of mine but my mate lent me cod3 and it works ok! thats his backup! on same disks im using.

just does the not readable disk in the xbox main screen where it shows the drive pick

but when i put cod3 in it works fine.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gugudelaroche on December 02, 2006, 08:36:00 AM

some people told me the black dvd drive is automatically an hitachi 0078
can someone confirm me this
tanx in advance

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on December 02, 2006, 08:38:00 AM

QUOTE(gugudelaroche @ Dec 2 2006, 04:51 PM)

some people told me the black dvd drive is automatically an hitachi 0078
can someone confirm me this
tanx in advance

wats the manufacturer date on the back of the eggbox?

not true you need to check inside

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: woodchin on December 02, 2006, 08:43:00 AM

QUOTE

Use CloneCD not CloneDVD burn at 2.4X

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on December 02, 2006, 08:48:00 AM

trying that as we speak.

so with the old disks when i put them in the drive i hear people on about the open tray error mine dont do that just goes to the xbox 360 online page thing and says cant read media???? will see how this goes i guess.

its a pain till you find the best media and prog to use.

thanks for advise though.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: josseys on December 02, 2006, 09:02:00 AM

Wlel that one didnt work either! FcuK SAKE!!!! nightmare.

so now used 10 disks!

5 verbitam ones 2.4 burn speed.

and mirror disks

used clone cd
clone dvd
nero
alcohol 120%

so i dont get it!

got a new dvd pioneer 111 bk

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: woodchin on December 02, 2006, 09:21:00 AM

Make sure you update the firmware of the Pioneer
Only use Verbatim or Traxdata 8X
Make sure the games you are burning are PAL and not NTSC (read nfo)
Are the images patched with SS files? If not, make sure they are (read nfo)
Burn in cloneCD at 2.4

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: cboy82 on December 02, 2006, 10:52:00 AM

QUOTE(josseys @ Dec 2 2006, 05:17 PM)

Wlel that one didnt work either! FcuK SAKE!!!! nightmare.
so now used 10 disks!

5 verbitam ones 2.4 burn speed.

and mirror disks
used clone cd
clone dvd
nero
alcohol 120%

so i dont get it!

got a new dvd pioneer 111 bk

i had problems with clone cd so i was told to try imgburn and i havent looked back since

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Penfoldian on December 02, 2006, 11:26:00 AM

fooking pirates!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on December 02, 2006, 01:18:00 PM

Now done 3 x 0078FK's and all working fine using programmer etc so Im a happy bunny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As to backups, should be straight forward to do, personally I use

Pioneer 111D 1.29FW (non modified)
Samsung 163 with Kreon 0.8
Verb / Mirror / RiDisk and Ritek all work fine on mine but other consoles dont like the RiDiscs. Seems Verbs & Mirror are the best atm.

PC Spec is :-

AMD 4400+ x2 Duel Core
2GB RAM
1.3TB HDD Space (2x320 sata 1x160 sata 2x250 ide)
Gforce 7950GX2
Pioneer 111D
Samsung 163
VIA 6421 SATA PCI Controller
and assorted bits.

All on XP MC

Sorry no advice on HOW I backup, ther's plenty of info out there. ONLY BACKUP ORIGINALS YOU OWN !!!

(There is a big difference between a "modder" and a "pirate", I do it for the challenge, not for profit.)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: slinky2 on December 02, 2006, 02:03:00 PM

Hi,
What is the external programmer box called?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on December 04, 2006, 03:05:00 PM

its called a willem programmer

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: blacknasty on December 04, 2006, 03:31:00 PM

any way we can get a tutorial? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Itsmee on December 05, 2006, 01:59:00 AM

Is there anyoen up yorkshire way that could do a 78fk for me. Im not to good with the rework so i dont want to knack it up.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ExiledTaru on December 05, 2006, 01:44:00 PM

QUOTE(Itsmee @ Dec 5 2006, 10:14 AM)

Is there anyoen up yorkshire way that could do a 78fk for me. Im not to good with the rework so i dont want to knack it up.

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=568896

the guy who wrote it is doing some 0078fkers, might be worth a try checking his site ?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ben1989 on December 05, 2006, 01:03:00 PM

QUOTE(josseys @ Dec 2 2006, 06:48 PM)

are you setting the lba for the secend layer??

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: paultuk on December 05, 2006, 01:53:00 PM

Hi Guys,

I am based in Wolverhampton, West Mids if anyone needs any 0078FK Drives doing?

I have successfully done 15 now and all work perfectly with no ruined ones!!!!

I remove the original chip, extract the key, Insert it into the Maximus 1.6 F/W using the toolbox then encrypt the .bin file. Then i send the new F/W to a replacement SST39VF020 TSOP and all done with a rework station and a Willem programmer and tested. My philosophy is, if the drive powers up and ejects after the mod using the Team Xecutor Connectivity Kit the flash has worked. This way i do not need the whole xbox just the drive and it works every time!!

If anyone is in real need of getting a 0078fk drive done pm me for details.

Sorry for advertising my services but these drives are getting ever so common and ppl are stuck with them unless they fancy doing it themselves?? Sorry if the moderators do not agree with my post :-(

Paul T - UK

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Druggedpolak on December 05, 2006, 03:16:00 PM

Just curious, but is it now possible to remove the chip and dump it. Then using an older drive such as 47dh copy the key and whatever necessary to the older drive and have it work? Has anyone done this?
Thanks

Great job to all people involved in this and then letting the public use it at no cost

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: spv4u on December 06, 2006, 01:57:00 PM

You would have been able to do that until the last update from M$.

When you first turn on the 360 it logs what type of drive is in the unit, so if you now get your key and change to a earlier Hit LG drive or Sammy drive the box will know you have changed it and give you red lights.

This is what happened to all the sammy v28 users running the old firmware hack which was based on the v25 firmware.

Saying that if you have gone to all the hastle of getting your key by getting the chip out why would you not flash it and run the hacked firmware??

Perhaps we may see a software hack as a xmas present from the modders.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: thecheekymonkey on December 06, 2006, 03:44:00 PM

QUOTE(spv4u @ Dec 7 2006, 12:12 AM)

yeah, you can edit the firmware to show as a different revision though and it works, ive done it a couple of times.l

for instance make a 47 drive , look to the console as an 078 drive. and it works after the update, not really worth it though, unless of course you fook your 078 drive.

but it can be done, and work past the fall update

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: myfranco on December 06, 2006, 04:39:00 PM

Hitachi <> hitachi , hitachi <> samsung , samsung <> hitachi , samsung <>samsung all of them is possible now.I've done 47>59 and 47>samsung ms25 .You can find the tutorial here.
E66 Swapped roms

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: egraphix on December 06, 2006, 06:08:00 PM

QUOTE(paultuk @ Dec 5 2006, 10:08 PM)

Hi Guys,

I am based in Wolverhampton, West Mids if anyone needs any 0078FK Drives doing?

Paul T - UK

where abouts in wolvs do u live.. im from Walsall so not far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) - im gonna buy a brand new xbox 360- and looking to mod it; i've checked it comes with the hitachi drive-most likely the 0078fk.

plz let me know..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on December 10, 2006, 01:34:00 AM

Still nothing on the software utility side of things.

Best I am hoping for now is a util to read the key BEFORE having to remove the chip

BTW if your nr Leicester then I can help with the 0078FK problem until a software method is available.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: xboxto on December 10, 2006, 04:53:00 AM

Hey i was following the 0078's progress on this site and xboxhacker!

Whats happened to xboxhacker website?????

regards
xboxto

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on December 10, 2006, 09:13:00 AM

QUOTE(xboxto @ Dec 10 2006, 02:08 PM)

Hey i was following the 0078's progress on this site and xboxhacker!

Whats happened to xboxhacker website?????

regards
xboxto

No offense, but that confuses me.

What 'progress' have you been watching?

They've already completed the firmware to remove and flash 78 chips

And what other hitachi stuff has reported 'progress' in weeks? (or months)

* * * * * * *

I agree though. Where IS xboxhacker.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: xboxto on December 10, 2006, 12:42:00 PM

QUOTE(Hopeful @ Dec 10 2006, 06:20 PM)

Well to my knowledge Garyopa and others were working on software so the chip removal method wouldn't
be required??? There was going to be a new firmware release also as the 1.6 still had some problems!

Now xboxhacker.net is passworded, so somethings up!

regards
xboxto

This post has been edited by xboxto: Dec 10 2006, 08:43 PM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: trick91 on December 10, 2006, 03:49:00 PM

QUOTE(xboxto @ Dec 10 2006, 09:57 PM)

their site was getting hacked/spammed, so they made it password only.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on December 10, 2006, 09:20:00 PM

QUOTE(xboxto @ Dec 10 2006, 09:57 PM)

Well to my knowledge Garyopa and others were working on software so the chip removal method wouldn't
be required??? There was going to be a new firmware release also as the 1.6 still had some problems!

Now xboxhacker.net is passworded, so somethings up!

regards
xboxto

Ohhhh I see what you're thinking now... How opa said a few times (long ago, that's why I forgot) that he was *trying* at 78 software since all normal ways are now blocked.

However he never spoke of any 'progress' he'd made on it, that I remember. (Did he? Aside from recieving a drive months ago?)

I've seen "Be patient... I'm trying" statements, but no 'progress' news. I never really took those statements for updates, without talking of any actual "progress" at success..

I suppose I actually don't even remember an "I'm trying" for a couple of weeks.

I'm not saying it's definitely never coming, but news of even trying it has certainly fizzled right? I'd love for Garyopa to come out with it against my expectations though.

I would probably literally dance in joy. Especially since, before the 78 focus, all other hitachi fws (a huge majority of hitachis) were about to get media stealth, and could finally be guarded.

***

Yeah I saw the XBH password thing too. I also noticed it says "XBH temp closed".
I would suppose that means members can't get back in yet.
Will there be a way for old users to get back on? Anyone know?

This post has been edited by Hopeful: Dec 11 2006, 05:26 AM

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gugudelaroche on December 10, 2006, 11:58:00 PM

i live in Montreal , Canada , has anyone seen 0078 drive in canada????

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: odgaf on December 11, 2006, 05:49:00 AM

gary i know your a busy bee but a progress report is long overdue
there is a huge demand for any news you may or may not have especially now xmass is almost here
cmon lad get those fingers typing will we have a happy crimbo or is it just gonna take more time

oh yeh id definately shag you if you was female
thx in advance

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: freddan_swe on December 11, 2006, 07:18:00 AM

I agree with the post above!

Just to make it clear, it's not my meaning to stress or nag you, garyopa, I just wanna know if you've made any progress with your 0078fk drive. If i'm getting this right, theres many people waiting for a "software-flash-method-thing", and i'm one of them

Thanks for good work gary!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mat84 on December 11, 2006, 06:20:00 AM

Sorry guys, this is gonna sound stupid, as im a noob...

Do you folks mean you're waiting for an alternative to the removing and reprogramming the chip method? As in, the same as the other drives, just sata, flash and away we go? Or am I misreading?

The reason i ask is cos my new 360, arriving in an hour may well be a 78, and I REALLY dont wanna go down the removing chip road!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: freddan_swe on December 11, 2006, 07:39:00 AM

QUOTE(mat84 @ Dec 11 2006, 03:35 PM)

I couldnt said it better myself

As you probably read, the only way to flash a 0078fk-drive today is by removing and program it external, wich is VERY tricky! Garyopa is working on a software-method, and hopefully he will succeed soon

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mat84 on December 11, 2006, 07:42:00 AM

Thats ACE! Totally dreading getting a 78 when mines arrives innnnn 45 minutes! Why cant life be simple?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mat84 on December 11, 2006, 07:09:00 AM

Cancel that! Just recieved it....its a Sammy! Woop woop!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: egraphix on December 11, 2006, 10:02:00 AM

^lucky you

what lot number was it (on side of box)? and which store did u buy it from?

im getting mine in 3hrs.. im hand picking it from work.. and i've placed aside one from LOT#627- which is a sammy or the previous hitachis 59dj

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on December 11, 2006, 11:01:00 AM

QUOTE(freddan_swe @ Dec 11 2006, 03:46 PM)

I couldnt said it better myself

As you probably read, the only way to flash a 0078fk-drive today is by removing and program it external, wich is VERY tricky! Garyopa is working on a software-method, and hopefully he will succeed soon

I think people may be relying too much on that without really knowing, and becoming dependant on an unsure thing

I'm not saying it will definitely never come, and on the other hand I want to point out...

It has been months since opa reported trying this, without any news of "success" or "progress". Gary's masterful successes in the past have seemed to happen in mere days, with "updates" as the security was broken... And since this started, word from gary has pretty much steadily fizzled away. (No negative meaning whatsoever. Merely stating the circumstance.)

To me, that says maybe ms locked software read/write airtight this time, because opa is extremely talented.

I sort of wish other hitachi fws were focused on, if that's the case, because then at least most hitachis would be completely ms-guarded. (not saying that with a negative connotation either)

What i'm saying is, at this point it would probably do us some good to get used to the idea that removal-flashing is all we have. (Even if this is coming, which no one truly 'knows'.) High expectations lessen victories and magnify let-downs. Focusing on we CAN definitely currently do may be the best thing.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on December 11, 2006, 03:25:00 PM

Time is certainly going on... Those of you hanging on for a software method might have no choice but to start seeking out those few who can do them the hard way and bite the bullet.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: sy5tem on December 11, 2006, 06:28:00 PM

QUOTE(gugudelaroche @ Dec 11 2006, 09:13 AM)

i live in Montreal , Canada , has anyone seen 0078 drive in canada????

yup futureshop as them the pack " ghost recon" as them all (the 3 i picked up) . bestbuy seem's to have the old gotham racin + 1250 point with hitachi (modable old one)

i wish i could get my hand on a sammy .. i got 1 hitachi working laying around here if some1 like an exange

i baught and returned around 10 xbox i got hitachi all the time!!!!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ITMASTER on December 11, 2006, 09:50:00 PM

HI friends

I got my XBOX 360 yesterday Premium pack manufactured June 2006 already flashes and got it from Dubai UAE. I would like to ask one question.

On the box it says for distribution in HK and says DVD region 3. I have 2 games Call of Duty 3 which is working ok and Pro Evoliution Soccer 6 whic is saying this when you try to load game
Wrong region code. so whats the problem??? which region backups my xbox ca boot and this PES 6 is from which region??

Thanks in advance.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: scienide on December 12, 2006, 12:51:00 AM

No PC hitachi drive out there that uses the same protection in any way ?

I know it's not really needed on a pc, but maybe hitachi had a pc drive which used special flashing routines and a software tool to do it...

?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hazhazhaz on December 13, 2006, 12:30:00 AM

Got my 0078 working today thanks to cheekymonkey of consoleworkshop (he deserves a plug)

So if you are in the UK and want your 78 sorting without removing the black goo yourselves I recommend you do the same!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hazhazhaz on December 13, 2006, 08:21:00 AM

He did as you said, don't know if he does overseas but worth asking, I was a bit dubious about posting my xbox to him (hes over 400 miles away from me) but checked all the posts he had made on here and took the plunge, very happy with the service and quick turnaround.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: glaze on December 15, 2006, 02:32:00 AM

You guys might wanna take a look at this

Seems carranzafp (maximus) has made a software dumping/flashing solution for the 0078 drives but he is selling this solution now here http://articulo.merc...itar-resina-_JM
(its in spanish so just babelfish and convert it)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: tutu on December 15, 2006, 03:49:00 AM

Well I don't read Spanish, but the comments suggest people who question the validity of the method. It also sounds to me that you must use Slax to dump the firmware, but in the video he dumps it in Windows. Or perhaps it was Mode B.

I am not sure sure about it. Anyway, anybody who charges for something like this deserves to goto hell

It's probably fake.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ehelvig on December 15, 2006, 04:55:00 AM

Looks like its true.. check out his homepage maximusgames.net

Wonder when a cracked release of this comes out..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on December 15, 2006, 05:32:00 AM

QUOTE(dynt @ Dec 15 2006, 01:18 PM)

looks totally for real i suppose he deserves some reward for his work it makes sense as it seems to be making a check on the various sectors which are known as variants for the v78

I would buy this ONLY if I knew it came with a BRAND NEW... GaryOPA package with media stealth (as well as fw stealth)

Otherwise it's a HUGE MOTHERFUCKING RIP OFF and DO NOT SUPPORT IT.

Because only a fool pumps $200 into a hack bustable by an easy-to-run media check.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dynt on December 15, 2006, 05:38:00 AM

what currency is the 2,500 in

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on December 15, 2006, 05:50:00 AM

QUOTE(dynt @ Dec 15 2006, 01:45 PM)

what currency is the 2,500 in

Pesos, I believe.

229.35 American dollars.

We shouldn't pay ANYTHING though, not even $30, without the security of media stealth.

Without that, the $$ could be WORTHLESS at any moment, when highly-possible DVD-R checks are implimented into games.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dynt on December 15, 2006, 05:58:00 AM

it sort of all makes sense all the big players have gone quiet over at xboxhacker there has been nothing new there for weeks it sort of makes u think going thru maximus if he is based in mexico things wont go the way of our new jersey freind

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on December 15, 2006, 06:17:00 AM

QUOTE(dynt @ Dec 15 2006, 02:05 PM)

You have a point...

And if it's true, it just makes it even more of a RIPOFF

Until they include media stealth.

The day we have to pay for a firmware, I damn well better be protected with media stealth AND fw stealth AND be safe against all reasonably-achievable "detections".

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dynt on December 15, 2006, 06:53:00 AM

QUOTE(Hopeful @ Dec 15 2006, 03:24 PM)

you have a good point but i am one of those who beleive if microsoft could do somthing they would have allready i bet the next thing is there will be a charge for the new sammy firmware that reads single layer discs

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gopher2005 on December 15, 2006, 07:19:00 AM

just sit and wait lol wont be 2 long before its leaked on the internet or garyopa comes through like he always does! no way would i pay that i could buy another 360 for that much id rather wait untill a modchip is realesed and buy that.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on December 15, 2006, 08:11:00 AM

QUOTE(dynt @ Dec 15 2006, 03:00 PM)

"If they could do something, they would have already" probably doesn't apply here. MS certainly can't afford to rush. They wouldn't want to create new security gaps, or put out something half-assed... making later versions an open book.

The big-name fw guys have all said that ms CAN do this DVDR-check if they take the time and build it right.

DVD-R check technology in games is probably around the corner. We sure don't know that it's not.

This is simply not worth buying without media stealth.

***

I agree that the next thing we see will probably be paid sammy firmware. All these sudden simultanious delays *are* kind of coincidental, I must admit. Right as each fw is about to be "perfected", it's pay time. Do you think maybe this... was planned for some time?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on December 15, 2006, 08:54:00 AM

let me tell ya how this is going to work... He is charging yup indeed... good for him, how long do you all honestly think its going to take now for either someone BUY the program and donate it to gary or someone and then him instead of ripping off his program just see how its made and compile his own? or how long do you think its going to take till you see this cracked and on torrents?

those are pretty realistic thoughts considering people are and were donating xbox's and drives to gary to get this firmware hacked.. you can bet your ass its just a madder of times

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mosher111 on December 15, 2006, 09:09:00 AM

For those of you living stateside, you better go get your 360's if you dont allready have one. I have begun to see constant 78's. Within the last few weeks I went from not seing one at all to seing around 10. So while I was at several local retailers I started checking the manufacture dates and all were made after July. So I hope we get a "free" release of new fw soon. and for the mojo in mejico, ill smuggle you into the united states if you will work in my sweatshop flashing 360s all day and night lol

jerk... thats fucked up hes trying to charge

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: tutu on December 15, 2006, 09:21:00 AM

I've just picked up a replacement 360 (mine was having issues ejecting the tray when the console is vertical) - its a 2006-04-01 with a Hitachi. What is strange however is that the back of the case is slightly off (a few mm's). So I do wonder if someone took it apart, but the sticker is still on it. This is my 4th 360 now and it's getting ridicilous. It could be the console had been dropped. It makes a rattle when shook lightly - slightly OT - but do all 360's do that? (Edit: Found thats it's a feature for deciding if the console is vertical/horizontal).

I've noticed they have changed the packaging slightly too - new games and accessories on the box. I hope it's not M$ repackaging returned consoles into newer boxes.

At this rate I will have to swap it again in six months and then I will be waiting for the hack for the built-in HD-DVD drive (you know that's going to happen no matter what MS says - same for the bigger HDD).

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Duck_Dude on December 15, 2006, 10:26:00 AM

QUOTE(OttawaModder @ Dec 15 2006, 06:18 PM)

On a side note, I would be willing to start a fund for GaryOpa to buy what he needs to crack the 78's. I am sure many of us would chip in $1US each for the cause. That way he can buy maximus's product, or whatever he needs.

Im in - i can give a bit of cash to the cause -

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Optics2k3 on December 15, 2006, 11:31:00 AM

probably no need to pitch in, but its up to him... i'm pretty sure name wouldnt allow update of newer frimware

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: OttawaModder on December 15, 2006, 12:23:00 PM

I'll PM Gary and see if this will help him out and either find out him paypal account, or get one setup for him.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dynt on December 15, 2006, 12:35:00 PM

QUOTE(Hopeful @ Dec 15 2006, 05:18 PM)

i think what we are seeing is a move away from the forums to private chat rooms on irc for the people that matter i think we will find there has been more than just maximus involved in developing this for the v78 all the people crying for other parties to bring this release out i think may end up a bit dissapointed as they are allready probably involved and getting some benefits from it.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: BasicAir on December 15, 2006, 12:38:00 PM

An hour ago a random person replied to the YouTube video with:

"No its not. Its been confirmed real, Iriez talked to Maximus hes selling it and not releasing it to public just yet because he bricked 2 360's in the process of making the software. But it is very much real ."

So apparantly this Maximus guy wants money for it to replace his bricked 360's in making this. It seems plausible. Still shady as hell. I don't know if we'll see this firmware released publically anytime soon. Sure someone could 'buy' it and spread it to the public but who would spend that kind of money in the first place?

I'm going to go back up to Best Buy today and see if I can find a pre-August 360 up there. If they don't, well, I'll just have to patiently wait to be able to flash my 78. I really wish I could just pop-in my Hitachi 47 without needing the key from the 78.

Oh well.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: dmaister on December 15, 2006, 01:39:00 PM

I don't know how much an Xbox360 is in Mexico but I'm sure that he could have lowered the price, get more people to buy and still get money back for the 360's. Guess he is afraid if he puts it too cheap one will buy it and distribute it immediately. Anyways, I've returned my xbox twice and still end up with a 0078 so I'll be patiently waiting.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: OttawaModder on December 15, 2006, 01:42:00 PM

I just wish there was a way to tell the manufacturing date from the sealed box (not console). It is such a pain to go to the store, buy a system, go home, open it up, see it has a very recent manufacturing date, go back to the store and return it for a new one, and repeat until you get an older one.
I just got a 78fk and I am not looking forward to going back and forth to the store many times trying to come up with an excuse for the exchange besides "This one has the crappy drive in it".

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: namgorf on December 15, 2006, 02:10:00 PM

QUOTE(OttawaModder @ Dec 15 2006, 09:49 PM)

there is, that little cardboard flap on the back pops up and you can clearly see the date. they call the flap a window, and they call the process of finding an older one "window shopping"

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: BasicAir on December 15, 2006, 02:36:00 PM

Good point about Maximus just asking for donations. How about someone contact him and ask if he'll just take donations instead of pulling this $200+ crap?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: ehelvig on December 15, 2006, 03:49:00 PM

QUOTE

Just wanted to let all of you know that he has agreed to go public. He will obviously have to rewrite the code to remove all of the registry stuff, so dont expect it today, but should be out rather quickly.

I definitly agree that he should get donations...he has spent alot of hard work on the project, and DID kill two 360's in the process. So, if your feeling generous, be sure to give him a heads up.

Man, now I just wanna buy a new 360 hoping to get a 78fk.. Just to try it out..

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: BasicAir on December 15, 2006, 04:11:00 PM

QUOTE(ehelvig @ Dec 15 2006, 11:56 PM)

Its going public!

Quote from Iriez@xboxhacker
Man, now I just wanna buy a new 360 hoping to get a 78fk.. Just to try it out..

Absolutely awesome news!

I just hope it's as easy as in the video. Also, I will wait for a few confirmed reports it works... I don't want to brick my not-even-24-hour-old shiny new Xbox 360!

If it works, I'll donate.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: BasicAir on December 15, 2006, 07:05:00 PM

QUOTE(OttawaModder @ Dec 16 2006, 02:51 AM)

Well at the local Walmart, it is kind of hard to do that with the person watching you cause I needed them to open the glass display. But I tried the lot# trick and found ones (Basic Consoles) with a lot # below 620. Worked perfect and it was a Samsung, so I just stuck the 78 back in that box and returned it. I don't feel guilty as the one I swapped in worked perfectly.

If an employee bitches at you for looking through the flaps on the boxes, just say:

"Look, I'm a customer who is going to spend hundreds of dollars on one of these items. I am not damaging them in any way."

If they're still pissy then get their manager to back you up. If they're still pissy then either tell them you're taking your business elsewhere OR, if you're really wanting to show those idiots who's right, tell them to call the cops to their store, because simply looking through the flap for a particular version of an Xbox 360 is perfectly legal. I guarantee they'll stfu and let you shop.

I'm glad you got a Samsung, though. I decided not to go back up to my Best Buy today to find a Sammy since this new 78 flasher will be out soon and also because I am very doubtful they would have any others. I knew I could have shopped around different stores today but all this retarded traffic and idiots in stores because of the holidays pisses me off.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gopher2005 on December 16, 2006, 12:13:00 AM

QUOTE(ehelvig @ Dec 16 2006, 12:56 AM)

Its going public!

Quote from Iriez@xboxhacker
Man, now I just wanna buy a new 360 hoping to get a 78fk.. Just to try it out..

awesome! the best christmas present i ever had! its been a long wait i got my baby 3 months ago i will be shore 2 donate as i belive all his hard work does deserve rewarding.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Hopeful on December 16, 2006, 12:32:00 AM

QUOTE(Draco2006 @ Dec 16 2006, 07:44 AM)

sup guys, well, im from mexico, and i could explain all this maximus stuff.

First thing, he is NOT charging 227 dlls per flash, hes selling HIS software to thr people who flash's the 360's.

See here in mexico, there are alot of places where you can take you xbox to be flashed and lots of places where you can get backup games.

So hes NOT charging PER flash, hes selling his solution to the 0078FK so the other guys that have shops where you can fix, buy games and shit can flash it. Think about it like a wholesale.

Anyway, just wanted to tell you that. Never though that this Maximus guy was mexican, eheh kinda kool!

No one ever thought he was charging $200+ per flash...

See... When this program is finally out to SOFTWARE-FLASH a 078

You can't download it.

You still have to go to a SHOP or spend $200 to USE it. That's the problem.

Maximus seems to be fixing it though, which is excellent.

***

I'd have bought the program if it had media stealth.

But 200, or using a shop, is kind of expensive without excellent security.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: freddan_swe on December 16, 2006, 09:44:00 AM

Hey guys!

Just found this thread:

http://www.team-xecu...ad.php?p=219867

The "HitachiTools.rar" contains "360 Firmware Toolbox ver 3.1 [Registered]".
Can anyone confirm that this app works with the 0078fk drive?? (As it is claimed in posts above)

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gopher2005 on December 16, 2006, 11:55:00 AM

QUOTE(freddan_swe @ Dec 16 2006, 06:51 PM)

that realese was only for read and dump of firmware code was removed for flash they have now removed the download so u cnt get it

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: jabroniekilla on December 16, 2006, 12:01:00 PM

QUOTE(gopher2005 @ Dec 16 2006, 02:02 PM)

that realese was only for read and dump of firmware code was removed for flash they have now removed the download so u cnt get it

the link was up long enough for some people to get it.

the full version will be out in less than 24hrs. check the official thread.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mcgough on December 17, 2006, 02:47:00 PM

just flashed my 78fk without a single hitch - can't believe how amazingly simple it was!!

A well deserved donation will be winging its way to Maximus shortly!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: freddan_swe on December 18, 2006, 08:53:00 AM

Hey!

I have some problems with my 78. I can get it to mode B, using the Slax CD, but when i'm going to insert a movie DVD (wich you have to if you are going to use maximus 360 firmware toolbox) the drive just ejects after a couple of seconds. Anyone else experienced this? What can I do?! Thanks in advance!

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: BasicAir on December 18, 2006, 09:12:00 AM

QUOTE(freddan_swe @ Dec 18 2006, 05:00 PM)

When I just flashed mine, I put in one of my backups since I read conflicting reports about DVD's and originals not keeping the tray closed.

Once I had a backup in the drive, though, I had to wait the 20 or so seconds as it says.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: mcgough on December 18, 2006, 11:00:00 AM

QUOTE(freddan_swe @ Dec 18 2006, 06:00 PM)

This happened to me too but i read somewhere that you have to press the eject button twice to close the drive and then a third time while the drive is still closing, then it wont automatically eject.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: gopher2005 on December 19, 2006, 05:06:00 AM

QUOTE(mcgough @ Dec 18 2006, 07:31 PM)

This happened to me too but i read somewhere that you have to press the eject button twice to close the drive and then a third time while the drive is still closing, then it wont automatically eject.

yeah i had same problem kept ejecting,i got the ''spinning up disc'' message in slax everytime all i did was put an original 360 in the drive and pressed the eject button twice then once more when it was reading, worked perfect! hats off 2 maximus donation already sent cheers.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: freddan_swe on December 19, 2006, 07:22:00 AM

Thanks for the tip!! Worked perfectly

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hobogoonie on December 20, 2006, 02:38:00 AM

Hi, gonna try and stay on topic. Just want to say well done to everybody for all the work that has gone into this. I'm plucking up the courage to try this myself now. I've been reding this thread patiently for months now and I'm relieved its now do-able. Seems fairly straightforward. 2 questions if I may;

1. Can I find Slax at 'the usual places'?
2. Can anyone recommend a Sata card thats going to be a good choice for me?

Once again. Well done. PS, where is Garyopa? Been a long time since weve heard from him. An absolute hero.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: oldhouse on December 20, 2006, 11:09:00 AM

I successfully flashed my hitachi 78fk yesterday, using an Asus A8N. Drive works perfectly with backups and originals.

I was just wondering if anyone has updated his m$ dashboard either going live or using latest retrocompatibility disc, and if it's dangerous or not since this firmware should not be stealth...

Can someone help me out plz?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Akastaff on December 20, 2006, 04:38:00 PM

Works a treat using a DFI Sli-DR Board (Nforce4) though slax2 was a bit fussy and didnt get to login but got far enough to drop the 78fk into modeB.

The actual flashing is a doddle and it is sooo nice to have the security of getting the drive key BEFORE getting to a point of no return.

Nice work all those who invested time and money in it.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: myfranco on December 20, 2006, 04:12:00 PM

QUOTE(Akastaff @ Dec 21 2006, 01:09 AM)

You can invest some money by donating

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: hobogoonie on December 21, 2006, 02:33:00 AM

Thanks oldhouse and Akastaff for the replies. Is it 'the usual places' where I get slax/whatever I need to get to mode B from? Thanks again.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: Questi4110 on December 22, 2006, 11:14:00 AM

Do you think this flashed firmware will ever work with xbox live?

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: the.snowman on December 22, 2006, 11:22:00 AM

QUOTE(Akastaff @ Dec 20 2006, 11:09 PM)

Used for new slax cd easy take in the mode b.
download link.

http://rapidshare.co...Slax21.iso.html

Happy for use.

Title: Help Hitachi-lg Gdr-3120l - Rom Version: 0078fk ?
Post by: abenas on March 06, 2007, 10:58:00 PM

Can someone help me please?

I've already flashed my hitachi 3120l (78fk), and it's working, the problem it its that I can't make a backup from an original dvd. When I run some tools likes schtrom360 Xtract or xbox backup creator, it says that my drive can't do some functions (if I remember, 'ss' functions or something).

Can I make a backup with another way?

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