Post by: Xbox-Scene on September 09, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
| Kreon released a new version of his firmware for the Samsung SH-D162C PC DVD-drive. This modified firmware allows you to dump original Xbox and Xbox 360 discs with the cheap SH-D162 PC DVD drive (no Xbox(360)-drive or disc hot-swap required). This new version comes support for full Security Sector (SS) extraction! Quote
Official Site: n/a (by Kreon on xboxhacker.net) Download: n/a (could be illegal under DMCA/EUCD) |
Post by: XanTium on September 09, 2006, 10:44:00 AM
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You will probably notice that the the drive reports as being RPC-2, if you use a program like DVDinfo - this is not a bug! The drive changes it's region setting according to the media inserted. The region code listed in DVDinfo (and other software like it) is the current region setting of the drive and it should match the region of the inserted media. If the media allows playback in more than one region, the drive region will be set to the region with the lowest number. An example could be a disc allowing playback in region 2 and 4 players, which would make the drive change it's region to region 2. Media with no region restrictions or with RCE protection will make the drive default to region 1.
Ripping using Isobuster..
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Not much to add here except for the number of LBA to read when using unlock 2 is 3697696 as opposed to 3567872 for unlock 1.
A successful wxripper style image will have a size of 7.572.881.408 bytes, while a successful xtreme style image will have
a size of 7.307.001.856 bytes.
And now some technical stuff....
Command set additions found in this FW..
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FF 08 01 01 , 'Enable Unlock 1 (xtreme) state' as we already know it from the 360 xtreme modded drives.
This command is supported for legacy reasons only. Custom applications should use the new
'Set lock state' instead.
FF 08 01 11 xx , 'Set Lock State'
xx=00 - Drive locked (no unlock state)
xx=01 - Unlock State 1 (xtreme) enabled
xx=02 - Unlock state 2 (wxripper) enabled
FF 08 01 15 xx , 'Set Error Skip State'
xx=00 - Error skip is disabled
xx=01 - Error skip is enabled
AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 08 00 xx C0 , This is the well known SS extract commands from the xtreme FW.
FF 08 01 10 , 'Get Feature List'
This command will return a list of the additional features supported by the drive.
All values returned are 16 bit values, and the list is terminated with null (0x0000)
The two first words of the returned list always reads as 0xA55A 0X5AA5 in order to guarantee
that a reply from a drive not supporting this command correctly isn't mistaken for a feature list.
An example feature list could be:
0xA55A, 0x5AA5, 0x0100, 0xF000, 0xF001, 0x0000
This list would indicate that the drive supports Unlock 1, Lock and Error Skip, as it can be seen
from the values defined below:
XBOX 360 related features..
0x0100 : The drive supports the unlock 1 state (xtreme)
0x0101 : The drive supports the unlock 2 state (wxripper)
0x0120 : The drive can read and decrypt the SS
0x0121 : The drive has full challenge response functionality
General drive features..
0xF000 : The drive supports the lock (cancel any unlock state) command
0xF001 : The drive supports error skipping
This is the complete list of defined features at the moment. If you're working on a custom application you
might want to contact me in order to get the latest list.
To those of you that might be wondering if this release will work with XBOX games.....well it probably will.... in theory at least. No extensive testing
has been made at this point, so I guess you will have to test that part by yourself Smiley
That's just about it for now. I hope to be back with more goodies soon and that this release will be helpful to you all.
A big thanks must go to FlexyZ for helping me test the FW and for letting me borrow, destroy and finally repair his TS-H943 Wink. Without this kind of help this release wouldn't be possible. I would also like to thank all of the other guys working hard on making the 360 a little more user friendly Smiley Keep up the good work!
Enjoy!
Kreon
Post by: NCspecV81 on September 09, 2006, 10:48:00 AM
Post by: bazza007 on September 09, 2006, 10:49:00 AM
Well done matey & thank you
This post has been edited by bazza007: Sep 9 2006, 05:50 PM
Post by: tortri on September 09, 2006, 10:55:00 AM
Post by: mrjkwik on September 09, 2006, 11:01:00 AM
in the xtreme 3.3 thread several of us suggested that c4e help or takeover the project. not from total lack of faith, just from us not hearing any development news. personally, it'd be hypocritacal of me not to apologize. so i apologize. i'll try it out later today and see what happens.
again, great job, and thanks.
EDIT: question, will this be able to dump an xbox 1 game, AND extract an xbox 1 ss?
This post has been edited by mrjkwik: Sep 9 2006, 06:04 PM
Post by: Wffsoccer on September 09, 2006, 11:02:00 AM
QUOTE(tortri @ Sep 9 2006, 06:02 PM) 
I'm a newb at "360" backups and been reading around about 360 backups here and there, but the question i have with this is do you need to flash ur 360's firmware (regardless?)or can u just buy this dvd drive seperately, put it in my PC, put this firmware in it and burn back ups of my games and it'll work on a normal, non tampered 360?
Anyone else speechless?
Post by: mrjkwik on September 09, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
QUOTE(tortri @ Sep 9 2006, 01:02 PM)
I'm a newb at "360" backups and been reading around about 360 backups here and there, but the question i have with this is do you need to flash ur 360's firmware (regardless?)or can u just buy this dvd drive seperately, put it in my PC, put this firmware in it and burn back ups of my games and it'll work on a normal, non tampered 360?
your 360 will still need to be flashed in order to play the games. you just wont need to do anything with the 360 to backup your games.
Post by: cHodAX on September 09, 2006, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: Textbook on September 09, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ Sep 9 2006, 01:08 PM)
EDIT: question, will this be able to dump an xbox 1 game, AND extract an xbox 1 ss?
Good question. If I had the drive, I'd try it.
Post by: hoodlum77 on September 09, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
Post by: patricksull on September 09, 2006, 11:27:00 AM
Post by: CompFreak07 on September 09, 2006, 11:31:00 AM
Post by: sosotiit on September 09, 2006, 11:32:00 AM
I tried schtom 2.1, drivetools1.2.0005 (aspi and spti) and they all provide slightly different resulting files. They are also all different from the ss.bin I got on the web ( that one worked OK).
rgds, Soso
Post by: Perplexer on September 09, 2006, 11:35:00 AM
Post by: sosotiit on September 09, 2006, 11:35:00 AM
QUOTE(CompFreak07 @ Sep 9 2006, 01:38 PM)
Also will this new firmware work with Schtrom360Xtract v2.1 and give you the xtreme 3.0 stealth style image without having to manually inject the ss or anything? Thanks
It does not seem to be the case. Just tried it and got the message to inject the ss.bin at the end. Maybe a small adjustment for schtrom.
rgds, soso
Post by: mrjkwik on September 09, 2006, 12:12:00 PM
QUOTE
To those of you that might be wondering if this release will work with XBOX games.....well it probably will.... in theory at least. No extensive testing
has been made at this point, so I guess you will have to test that part by yourself Smiley
has been made at this point, so I guess you will have to test that part by yourself Smiley
partially answering my own post. guess i'll have to find out on my own, or wait till someone else tries it out.
goes to show to make sure you read the whole nfo before commenting
Post by: PhatheadWRX on September 09, 2006, 11:37:00 AM
QUOTE(CompFreak07 @ Sep 9 2006, 01:38 PM)
That is great news. I have two questions. I dont have the Samsung SH-D162C yet but was planning on buying one. What would be a average price of what these sell for and where can I get one? Also will this new firmware work with Schtrom360Xtract v2.1 and give you the xtreme 3.0 stealth style image without having to manually inject the ss or anything? Thanks
Good luck finding one, I am in the same boat.
Seems that the only places that have them instock is Australia and Germany. You can pick one up on ebay but expect to pay around $70 shipped to the US. Sucks
I was reading through the Schtrom360Xtract thread over at xbhacker and they said 2.2 will be released soon. Hopefully that will use this new v.8 if the 2.1 does not.
Anyone that can get there hands on this drive please share the wealth and hit me up on PM.
Post by: wak4 on September 09, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
QUOTE(sosotiit @ Sep 9 2006, 01:39 PM)
is there a recommended tool for extracting the ss.bin.
I tried schtom 2.1, drivetools1.2.0005 (aspi and spti) and they all provide slightly different resulting files. They are also all different from the ss.bin I got on the web ( that one worked OK).
rgds, Soso
Just did 3 schtrom 2.1 in a row, and none were perfect match
... wondering if it would work or make a coaster
Post by: sosotiit on September 09, 2006, 12:26:00 PM
I does not means that the data that is put by schtrom in the file not not good. it might only be a warning since the firmware did not supported it before.
rgds, soso
QUOTE(PhatheadWRX @ Sep 9 2006, 01:44 PM) 
Good luck finding one, I am in the same boat.
Seems that the only places that have them instock is Australia and Germany. You can pick one up on ebay but expect to pay around $70 shipped to the US. Sucks
They have them in canada so maybe shipping is not as bad. Found mine at www.microbytes.com for 29$ canadian
rgds, soso
This post has been edited by sosotiit: Sep 9 2006, 07:27 PM
Post by: wak4 on September 09, 2006, 11:51:00 AM
QUOTE(sosotiit @ Sep 9 2006, 01:55 PM)
well, just to be sure I do not mislead anyone. The message saying that the ss.bin as to be added after is still there.
I does not means that the data that is put by schtrom in the file not not good. it might only be a warning since the firmware did not supported it before.
rgds, soso
Na.. I downloaded a SS that worked and I compare it with the one extracted with Schtrom... not a 100% match... lets say 98%
Post by: Nailed on September 09, 2006, 12:48:00 PM
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Why not V1.00? Well... I'm still working on hardware correct timing of response types 5 & 7, which ultimately is the right way to do this. Studying a large amount of security sectors has shown however, that all (to my knowledge!) current games uses the same timing scheme, which makes faked timing possible. This release makes use of faked timing, and will use fixed values for all timed values. A 'jitter'function has been added that will make the fixed values vary sligthly, effectively making any attempt by M$ to detect a specific timer pattern for copied games impossible.
I'm testing a backup made by getting ss.bin from Schtrom360Xtract. I'll report back on the success.
Many kudus for Kreon!
This post has been edited by Nailed: Sep 9 2006, 07:51 PM
Post by: docstrange on September 09, 2006, 01:01:00 PM
Post by: daghostmon on September 09, 2006, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE(sosotiit @ Sep 9 2006, 01:57 PM)
well, just to be sure I do not mislead anyone. The message saying that the ss.bin as to be added after is still there.
I does not means that the data that is put by schtrom in the file not not good. it might only be a warning since the firmware did not supported it before.
rgds, soso
They have them in canada so maybe shipping is not as bad. Found mine at www.microbytes.com for 29$ canadian
rgds, soso
I think the states are out of luck the website says
Online Ordering
We only ship within Canada
Post by: MN-Mod-Man on September 09, 2006, 12:51:00 PM
I thought divineo had some but I cant seem to locate them...
Post by: nachomans on September 09, 2006, 01:34:00 PM
Post by: bullitt464 on September 09, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
but i think i'll wait for the 1.0 firmware to be released before i even try it. its still sitting in the package it came in
Post by: MN-Mod-Man on September 09, 2006, 01:09:00 PM
QUOTE(bullitt464 @ Sep 9 2006, 02:11 PM)
i scored one from canada about a month ago for about $30, can't remember the site name though. something with an X in it...
but i think i'll wait for the 1.0 firmware to be released before i even try it. its still sitting in the package it came in
but i think i'll wait for the 1.0 firmware to be released before i even try it. its still sitting in the package it came in
That's helpfull
Post by: CompFreak07 on September 09, 2006, 01:12:00 PM
QUOTE(bullitt464 @ Sep 9 2006, 08:11 PM)
i scored one from canada about a month ago for about $30, can't remember the site name though. something with an X in it...
but i think i'll wait for the 1.0 firmware to be released before i even try it. its still sitting in the package it came in
If you want I will possibly buy it off you. Just PM if you want.
Post by: njptrading on September 09, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
just thought id say that these drives are easy to get in the UK, lots of uk online retailers stock them. Maybe worth trying to check them out and seeing if any ship elsewhere. its unlikely though.
Post by: The N9ne on September 09, 2006, 01:33:00 PM
Post by: finalsin on September 09, 2006, 02:40:00 PM
http://store.sunwilltech.com/37435.html
Peace
Finalsin
Post by: IMI_II_IK_IE on September 09, 2006, 02:45:00 PM
Post by: ThE MaSTeR 3 on September 09, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
Post by: Software2 on September 09, 2006, 02:59:00 PM
Post by: PhatheadWRX on September 09, 2006, 03:06:00 PM
QUOTE(finalsin @ Sep 9 2006, 04:11 PM)
Found Them Here, Dont Know how good the company is , i just placed my order.
http://store.sunwill....com/37435.html
Peace
Finalsin
I called that store and they do not have the SH-D162C... they are going to send you another Sammy 16x
I would call them
Post by: patricksull on September 09, 2006, 03:48:00 PM
I know $70 (shipped) is a lot, but I did the ebay/Australia thing, and the drive works great. Shipping took about 10 days.
Post by: CompFreak07 on September 09, 2006, 03:20:00 PM
QUOTE(PhatheadWRX @ Sep 9 2006, 10:13 PM)
I called that store and they do not have the SH-D162C... they are going to send you another Sammy 16x
I would call them
Thank you for telling me that as I was about to order two from that site. That is wrong though how they trick you my showing a pic of the SH-D162C and it even says it in the middle of the page. False Advertisment. Anyways anwhere else I could possibly get it for under $50.00 shipped? TigerDirect seems to be sold out.
Post by: Spodie on September 09, 2006, 03:23:00 PM
If you do the Australia thing, watch out for PCsmith selling on ebay. He has a good reputation but I got a DOA drive & he is being less than helpful. If you wanna read about it here ya go: http://forums.xbox-s...ghlight=pcsmith
Sunwill is fishy! Do a search, found a few negative comments but no reviews at all!!
Post by: Niteman1969 on September 09, 2006, 04:26:00 PM
TS-H352c
The easiest way to crossflash the drive with the no check option is to open a command prompt and change to the directory where your sfdnwin.exe file is and type in "sfdnwin.exe -nocheck" and hit enter. You should get a message box that pops up that says "-Nocheck Use!!" and you'll have to hit ok to continue.
Regards
Niteman1969
Post by: eqjunkie on September 09, 2006, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: Software2 on September 09, 2006, 04:09:00 PM
QUOTE(PhatheadWRX @ Sep 9 2006, 04:13 PM)
I called that store and they do not have the SH-D162C... they are going to send you another Sammy 16x
I would call them
Thank you so much. They were going to send me a different drive.
However, the person sounded like she was expecting it. I get the feeling they've had several cancelations in the last few hours.
Post by: Spodie on September 09, 2006, 04:16:00 PM
QUOTE(eqjunkie @ Sep 9 2006, 11:07 PM)
Just got my drive recentl, flashed it with 0.6 a few days back but cant find 0.8 anyone got a linkie ;-)
That is the very info you dont want to ask for here dude.
TS-H352c seems even harder to find. Any links?
Post by: RiPpN-N-TrIppN on September 09, 2006, 04:56:00 PM
they also ship World Wide
Post by: HoRnEyDvL on September 09, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
Post by: mike8519 on September 09, 2006, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: letsmod on September 09, 2006, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: eqjunkie on September 09, 2006, 05:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Spodie @ Sep 10 2006, 08:23 AM) 
That is the very info you dont want to ask for here dude.
TS-H352c seems even harder to find. Any links?
Why not there are links to everything else off the tools page and modchip ads on the main page, think they would be more of a worry than a firmware update for a PC DVD-ROM Drive
Post by: Abyss on September 09, 2006, 04:56:00 PM
£12 i bought one for, thats roughly $22 without shipping, so you have to find a site that ships,
heres a list of vendors that stock this drive in the uk, one must ship to the US, otherwise PM me and i will see how much a postal option would work out to if enough of you want some?
http://froogle.googl...&...h&scoring=p
Post by: sektor1062 on September 09, 2006, 05:12:00 PM
QUOTE(eqjunkie @ Sep 10 2006, 12:01 AM)
Why not there are links to everything else off the tools page and modchip ads on the main page, think they would be more of a worry than a firmware update for a PC DVD-ROM Drive
end of discussion
Post by: HoRnEyDvL on September 09, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
Post by: mike96sc2 on September 09, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
Price for US is going to be $55 + shipping so roughly $60 total. Cheaper than eBay for sure.
PM's are preferred
Post by: Boba_Fett on September 09, 2006, 05:43:00 PM
QUOTE(letsmod @ Sep 9 2006, 11:49 PM)
any tried using DVDinfopro to pull ss.bin ???
I have. Neither Schtrom360XtractV2.1 nor DVDInfoPro pull out the correct SS. I've hex matched from both programs against a confirmed (by myself, because I burned and played them myself) SS of Fight Night Round 3 and Burnout Revenge. Even funnier, when using Schtrom360XtractV2.1, you get slightly different results each time you extract the SS. This fw release is ether broken or there isn't a right extraction program out right now that works with v0.80
Post by: O_oTheGameo_O on September 09, 2006, 06:25:00 PM
QUOTE(mike96sc2 @ Sep 10 2006, 01:38 AM)
I actuallly purchased a large lot of these through ebay and I'm just waiting on them to arrive. If anyone is interested in an individual drive let me know.
Price for US is going to be $55 + shipping so roughly $60 total. Cheaper than eBay for sure.
PM's are preferred
dude the drives are here 15euro ~20$ in the store brand new.
Post by: Boba_Fett on September 09, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: Roland on September 09, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:31&Item=150029253026
This merchant offers tracking/insurance (which the German merchants DON'T). I should be receiving my tracking number Monday (remember Australia is 15 hours ahead of us...at least New South Wales is
). Plus this merchant has excellent feedback. I checked on orders from the US (from feedbacks left)...they have been getting their drives in 4-10 days. Not bad.I am just glad I didn't order from PCSmith.
Oh and they allow PayPal (along with a ton of other options)
.
Post by: sosotiit on September 09, 2006, 06:25:00 PM
post on XboxHacher.net.
It seems that if you do a full extract, the right ss.bin info is present in the file. It is only that Schtrom 2.1 assumes you use Kreon 0.60 and sends the warning no matter what. In fact that was indicated by Kreon and AcidFlash in their posts.
GRRRR I want some DVD+R DL. I guess I must wait for tomorrow
rgds, Soso
Post by: emko on September 09, 2006, 07:22:00 PM
Post by: KowBoY1 on September 09, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
/me duz a happy dance !!
Post by: patricksull on September 09, 2006, 06:53:00 PM
QUOTE(sosotiit @ Sep 10 2006, 01:32 AM)
It seems that if you do a full extract, the right ss.bin info is present in the file. It is only that Schtrom 2.1 assumes you use Kreon 0.60 and sends the warning no matter what.
So, what does this mean? Is there a way around this? Do we need to run Schtrom 2.1, but load the ss.bin from a different location?
Post by: darkmaster2 on September 09, 2006, 06:55:00 PM
If you are in europe then one will cost less than 30Euros here inc shipping
Post by: phanatic1 on September 09, 2006, 07:41:00 PM
if anyone is in canada, i got mine from www. ncix .com
dunno if they have any left
Post by: sosotiit on September 09, 2006, 07:26:00 PM
QUOTE(patricksull @ Sep 9 2006, 09:00 PM)
So, what does this mean? Is there a way around this? Do we need to run Schtrom 2.1, but load the ss.bin from a different location?
No, It means that If you do a full extract in schtrom 2.1, you are ready to burn the image right after. The message is a false alarm based on the assumption that you are still using fw 0.6 that does not have SS extraction.
So all is nice exctract whole image (forget the warning) and burn.
rgds, Soso
Post by: shauno on September 09, 2006, 07:26:00 PM
Wow possibilities of devoloping "homebrew code". Seems this drive will do anything if it makes you a few extra bucks.
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(From Xecuter.com.au site)http://www.xecuter.c...products_id=198
The Samsung SH-D162C DVD-Rom drive is popular with the Xbox 360 community as it can be modified for use as a R&D tool for people exploring the possibilities of developing "homebrew" code on the Xbox 360.
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kind of misleading if you're not up to date with things
Post by: RiPpN-N-TrIppN on September 09, 2006, 08:22:00 PM
ive been waiting on this one for a while
thanks heaps you have saved me alot of trouble
cheers Rip
Post by: razalom on September 09, 2006, 08:31:00 PM
Have just backed up my Hitman 360 game using 0.8 and Schtrom360XtractV2.1 and all I did was back it up , ignore the error message, and burn with clone cd.
So dont worry about the size it gives ya, it works!
Post by: nickbuhl on September 09, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Sep 9 2006, 06:31 PM)
GUYS CAN YOU PLEASE KEEP ON TOPIC THIS IS ABOUT THE KREON FIRMWARE NO ON WHERE TO PURCHASE THIS DRIVE FROM.
Dude, you're in Australia so its no sweat for you to get this drive. The rest of us can't find one for a reasonable price to begin testing and contribute! Is there a dedicated thread for this? Please link if so.
Post by: HoRnEyDvL on September 09, 2006, 08:22:00 PM
QUOTE
Dude, you're in Australia so its no sweat for you to get this drive. The rest of us can't find one for a reasonable price to begin testing and contribute! Is there a dedicated thread for this? Please link if so.
Yeah there is a better suitable place.
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=546674
Post by: mrjkwik on September 09, 2006, 08:38:00 PM
QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Sep 9 2006, 10:29 PM)
i'm gonna have to disagree with that tactic. considering that thread wasnt there already. now you might say, that the thread shoulda been started by someone else before, but it wasnt.
second, rule 4 from 360 bst
QUOTE
4)If you're not buying, selling or trading, you're not posting.
the thread isnt asking to buy, or offering to sell or trade anything. so it shouldnt be there.
third, even if its allowed to stay and doesnt get closed, its gonna get buried there. and i doubt they'll pin it.
so perhaps a temporary pinned topic in these forums is where it belongs.
but i can agree that the "where can i buy" should be limited here, though it is somewhat relevant.
Post by: StrictPuppet on September 09, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: parat8t9 on September 09, 2006, 10:12:00 PM
I didn't realize you can flash the SH-D162C drive and get it to read xbox 360 games... oh now I can backup my games so much easeier :-D
Now just a matter of finding this drive. If anyone has one for sale for a *reasonable* price please PM me.
I will not buy one on ebay for what they are asking!
Post by: senator on September 09, 2006, 10:35:00 PM
QUOTE(RiPpN-N-TrIppN @ Sep 9 2006, 11:27 PM)
http://www.xecuter.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=54_52&products_id=198&osCsid=2cf8015eaeb15d1ba28e9ba8ad886e63 the drive if any Aussies wanna pick one up
they also ship World Wide
Post by: lllsondowlll on September 09, 2006, 10:39:00 PM
Post by: Nailed on September 09, 2006, 10:46:00 PM
Post by: NCspecV81 on September 09, 2006, 10:31:00 PM
QUOTE(Nailed @ Sep 10 2006, 12:17 AM)
Another confirmation that both Schtrom360Xtract 2.1 & DVDInfo work just fine with this firmware.
and another!
Post by: docstrange on September 09, 2006, 11:40:00 PM
Post by: mrjkwik on September 10, 2006, 12:35:00 AM
can you guys give me a quick run down what your doing with 360 games. i dont want to backup any of mine, already got em done.
1), are you sending any custom commands, or is the fw working "right out of the box"
2), how are you using the programs together? i only used schtrom.
3), maybe a quick tut, i figure its not that tough. just want to make sure i did it right before wasting another disc maybe doing it wrong. its one thing to waste them if it just doesnt work, its another if i'm doing it wrong cuz i never used the program before.
thanks guys.
Post by: senator on September 10, 2006, 01:20:00 AM
There is a latest release of xbox backup creator 2.0.0.100 but there also may be issues with xbox1 games, testing is required but should work, check the main page for link.
Post by: mrjkwik on September 10, 2006, 01:35:00 AM
the 2 things i wasnt that sure on was if any commands had to be sent to it, and why dvdinfo was being used. so thats pretty much the same thing that i did. but i did send a command over first. and evidently it did somethign to my drive. after making the image, i put in a reg dvd and it wouldnt recognize it. reflashed the drive and it worked again. i'll try 1 more time, after that, i'll wait for everyone else.
Post by: eqjunkie on September 10, 2006, 01:54:00 AM
Post by: RiPpN-N-TrIppN on September 10, 2006, 03:42:00 AM
im using it with Xbox_Backup_Creator_v2.0.0.100 im doing my 2nd backup now
i then burn the iso with IMGburn and its working great
awsome work
Post by: Zydroid on September 10, 2006, 06:20:00 AM
QUOTE(Niteman1969 @ Sep 9 2006, 10:57 PM)
There is another samsung drive which has been succesfully crossflashed to this firmware
TS-H352c
The easiest way to crossflash the drive with the no check option is to open a command prompt and change to the directory where your sfdnwin.exe file is and type in "sfdnwin.exe -nocheck" and hit enter. You should get a message box that pops up that says "-Nocheck Use!!" and you'll have to hit ok to continue.
Regards
Niteman1969
Has anyone else tried this? where did you get this info from Niteman1969, because you say: There is another samsung drive which has been succesfully crossflashed to this firmware, but to me it reads like you haven't done it yourself, but have heard about it?
Any more info on this anyone.
Post by: senator on September 10, 2006, 07:14:00 AM
can be cross flashed....
Post by: psxpirate1 on September 10, 2006, 07:19:00 AM
Post by: gnutellafan on September 10, 2006, 08:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Zydroid @ Sep 10 2006, 12:51 PM)
Has anyone else tried this? where did you get this info from Niteman1969, because you say: There is another samsung drive which has been succesfully crossflashed to this firmware, but to me it reads like you haven't done it yourself, but have heard about it?
Any more info on this anyone.
It is well documented. Unfortunatly the drive mentioned is an Dell OEM version of the sh-d16c that is even more difficult to find then the sh-d16c itself.
Post by: neushane on September 10, 2006, 11:25:00 AM
Schtrom360XtractV2[1].1. I am getting the same error on both..."Unable to determine target Xbox version" Any suggestions? TIA
nm...figured it out.
Post by: mrjkwik on September 10, 2006, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: senator on September 10, 2006, 03:51:00 PM
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ Sep 10 2006, 06:57 PM)
i gave an xbox 1 backup another shot. still a no go.
What problems are you having? Unable to create a working iso with correct ss.bin? or once burnt it fails to boot? I found a xbox1 done with Schtrom360 made an image without errors and seems OK to burn but I'm not gonna burn it till its backwards compatible, I tried the latest release of xbox backup creator it failed on same disc with errors. A msg came up saying its normal with xbox1 games continue but can't be sure if its normal or disc damage. Well must be something wrong with xbox backup creator because it appeared to be OK with Schtrom360 2.1 besides the SS.bin error for the SH-D162C...
Post by: mrjkwik on September 10, 2006, 04:42:00 PM
just the quick facts on what i did.
flashed the drive with kreon 0.8
loaded in splinter cell original.
opened up schtrom v2.1
extract whole disc
let it run.
burnt with imgburn at 2.4x on verb
Post by: meandher on September 10, 2006, 06:21:00 PM
Post by: lllsondowlll on September 10, 2006, 08:07:00 PM
Post by: StrictPuppet on September 10, 2006, 08:14:00 PM
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ Sep 10 2006, 03:13 PM)
it seems to make the disc just fine, no errors or anything. and using schtrom, as long as full extract is done then it should pull the ss inside the extract like its doing for the 360 disc (i'm assuming). but when i load it into the 360, i get the "the is an xbox disc. please put it in your xbox to play" message. and it wont load at all in modded xbox. i'll just wait to see if someone else figures it out. i figure i sacrificed 2 dl's for it. and the game is splinter cell (first one) and it is on the backwards compatible list. and my 360 already had the update downloaded to it.
just the quick facts on what i did.
flashed the drive with kreon 0.8
loaded in splinter cell original.
opened up schtrom v2.1
extract whole disc
let it run.
burnt with imgburn at 2.4x on verb
Check your splintercell.dvd file (or whatever you have named it)
The layer break for an xbox1 game is different from a 360 game. And Schtrom may have set it incorrectly.
You may want to change the layerbreak position in the .dvd file to be "LayerBreak=1913776" instead of "LayerBreak=1913760"... just edit it with notepad.
Just a thought.... may still make you another coaster...hahahah
Post by: Bush-Is-My-Hero on September 10, 2006, 10:29:00 PM
Post by: nicedog on September 10, 2006, 11:42:00 PM
If yes, how? I tried Schtrom360Xtract but it didn't see my ts-h352 (hooked up to IDE primary slave)
This is purely out of curiosity and for research only, I do have original games.
Thanks.
Post by: mrjkwik on September 11, 2006, 12:55:00 AM
QUOTE(StrictPuppet @ Sep 10 2006, 09:45 PM)
Check your splintercell.dvd file (or whatever you have named it)
The layer break for an xbox1 game is different from a 360 game. And Schtrom may have set it incorrectly.
You may want to change the layerbreak position in the .dvd file to be "LayerBreak=1913776" instead of "LayerBreak=1913760"... just edit it with notepad.
Just a thought.... may still make you another coaster...hahahah
you may definately have a point. since i burn with imgburn, you manually configure the layer break in the settings. and i never thought about changing that (then again, i didnt know). i guess i can try one more time. too bad i need to extract it again since i already deleted it. thanks for the tip. guess i'm willing to "donate" one more coaster to the cause. good thing i got a new batch in and theres not a ton coming out in the next few months.
Post by: mrjkwik on September 11, 2006, 01:47:00 AM
Post by: stonebridgecomputing on September 11, 2006, 02:19:00 AM
QUOTE(docstrange @ Sep 10 2006, 03:11 PM)
heres a link for usa havent ordered yet. but it looks legit. http://www.stonebridgecomputing.com.au/cat...ware-p-488.html
Hey,
My name is Chris Hall from StoneBridge Computing (www.stonebridgecomputing.com.au), and I am just emailing to say that I saw this post (quoted above) with people coming through to our site from it.
I just wanted to warn people that we are an Australian company (not a US company), so for you US people, unfortunately we cannot send DVD-ROM's out to everyone (your postage costs would be too large for a single DVD-ROM). Sorry about that.
Regards,
Chris Hall
StoneBridge Computing (Australia)
www.stonebridgecomputing.com.au
Note to moderators: This is not a post to market my business. This is a post to stop people from wasting their own time trying to order through us before realising they cannot order because we are in Australia.
Post by: senator on September 11, 2006, 03:06:00 AM
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ Sep 11 2006, 08:18 AM)
nope, another coaster even with the changed layer break. well, thats my 6.78 in 4 discs. someone elses turn to figure out the xbox 1 burns.
You tried burning with clonecd? Schtrom360 does set the layer break for xbox1 games to 1913776
as my image in clonecd states this is the case, and 360 are 1913760 as should be. I will try a burn soon and see what happens? as long as my originals are backwards compatible. Which some aren't yet?
There maybe issues with the firmware of 0.8 Kreon or the software extraction tools? Surely theres someone out there with a successfully backup xbox1 game. Any input?
Post by: joshwaan2k on September 11, 2006, 03:10:00 AM
So with xbox 360 games just run full stealth backup and ignore error msg, once complete open clone cd and burn.
Now with Xbox 1 it does not work this way even with the layer break changed, has anyone tried Whole disc
extreme 2.0 image with the layer break changed?
I'm really interested, cause I want to burn my copy of Half life 2 and play it on the console.
Great work with the firmware btw Kreon A++ mate
Post by: senator on September 11, 2006, 03:23:00 AM
QUOTE(joshwaan2k @ Sep 11 2006, 09:41 AM)
Hi Guys
So with xbox 360 games just run full stealth backup and ignore error msg, once complete open clone cd and burn.
Yeh it just errors because the app doesn't realise its the 0.8 Kreon which supports SS.bin. The SS is still in the image and you can extract it and DMI and PFI to double check from the image with tools in Schtrom360
Post by: bazza007 on September 11, 2006, 06:27:00 AM
QUOTE(nicedog @ Sep 11 2006, 06:13 AM)
Can I use samsung ts-h352 (currently flashed with Kreon v0.6) to backup "backup" games?
If yes, how? I tried Schtrom360Xtract but it didn't see my ts-h352 (hooked up to IDE primary slave)
This is purely out of curiosity and for research only, I do have original games.
Thanks.
Just use clone cd to backup a backup (this is what Kreon said on xboxhacker.net) i've never tried it
Post by: mrjkwik on September 11, 2006, 06:47:00 AM
QUOTE(senator @ Sep 11 2006, 04:37 AM)
You tried burning with clonecd? Schtrom360 does set the layer break for xbox1 games to 1913776
as my image in clonecd states this is the case, and 360 are 1913760 as should be. I will try a burn soon and see what happens? as long as my originals are backwards compatible. Which some aren't yet?
There maybe issues with the firmware of 0.8 Kreon or the software extraction tools? Surely theres someone out there with a successfully backup xbox1 game. Any input?
yeah, after i made the new image (again) i checked the .dvd and saw the break set correctly. the problem is, i'm one of those lucky ones that gets an error anytime using clonecd (cant remember the error at this point, something about not enough space on the disc. but the common one where usually you update, and are ok. i updated to 5.2.9.1, and still arent ok). so i've been using imgburn. its been working fine, you just have to burn the .000 file and manually set the layer break.
on my first 3 coasters, i burnt them with the 360 layer break until it was mentioned about they had different ones. so i changed the break in the settings to the xbox 1 one, and still wound up with another coaster. as we all know, losing dl discs sucks. even though its a small cost compared to what the dev's of the software and firmwares have made, all i'll wind up with is a working copy of splintercell (original, not 2 or 3 even ) on the 360. its not like i needed that game on 360, but kreon mentioned we'd have to test it, so i figured i would. just without success. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i'm sure someone will figure it out. then maybe i'll try another disc. then i'll just have to dig out the rest of my originals and find one worth playing on the 360.
This post has been edited by mrjkwik: Sep 11 2006, 02:03 PM
Post by: sadalius on September 11, 2006, 09:29:00 AM
PS: THANK YOU KREON!! Very nice work!
Post by: cdes on September 11, 2006, 10:00:00 AM
Keeping that in mind I have a question that will probably be a no-brainer to most of you but I dont know the answer:
I have a Hitachi drive (47 I think) flashed with OPA's 2.1 firmware. Will my drive be able to read Xtreme stealth 3.0 type backups? I know my firmware doesnt use the stealth features per se - but I dont know if stealth images are readable by my drive and FW or whether they will error out.
My hope is that I can make these images in anticipation of the day when stealth FW is available for my drive - and hopefully in the meantime my current FW will be able to read the images ( not taking advantage of the stealth features ... PFI, correct video partition, etc...)
Cheers and thanks for the info!
Post by: StrictPuppet on September 11, 2006, 10:05:00 AM
QUOTE(cdes @ Sep 11 2006, 08:31 AM)
I have a Hitachi drive (47 I think) flashed with OPA's 2.1 firmware. Will my drive be able to read Xtreme stealth 3.0 type backups? I know my firmware doesnt use the stealth features per se - but I dont know if stealth images are readable by my drive and FW or whether they will error out.
Yes it will read them fine.
Post by: al-iskafy on September 11, 2006, 10:13:00 AM
Post by: Tony42077 on September 11, 2006, 11:45:00 AM
Post by: tidyD on September 11, 2006, 11:57:00 AM
Can not get a Xbox1 game to burn correctly, im using dvdinfo and this guide
http://www.traptrakz.com/X360/tutorial/
im guessin its the ss.bin files.
tried 3 times, one doing the xbox1 way and two doing 360 way.
hope i come up with an answer or some one else can.
Post by: sadalius on September 11, 2006, 02:46:00 PM
Post by: sadalius on September 11, 2006, 04:50:00 PM
Post by: lllsondowlll on September 11, 2006, 08:02:00 PM
This post has been edited by lllsondowlll: Sep 12 2006, 03:02 AM
Post by: leorimolo on September 11, 2006, 08:43:00 PM
Search ebay and threw this thread since there are almost no big retailers selling those anymore.
Post by: astaufik on September 11, 2006, 09:37:00 PM
QUOTE(lllsondowlll @ Sep 12 2006, 09:09 AM)
quick question, has anyone ordered a samsun yet in america? I really need that drive, because I ordered a NME-360 chip and I really don't want it to go to waste because once this is installed I do not ever want to open my 360 again. if you are positive the drive is sold at a certain store then please post so.
Great News Guys, I've got plenty of brand new Samsung SH-D162C DVD drive
only $25 each...(not including shipping)
if you want to buy one?, you can just PM. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
Post by: mrjkwik on September 11, 2006, 09:44:00 PM
also, since you only have a few posts and are a fairly new member, others are gonna request pictures of the "batch" that you have in.
i might even bite for a spare drive if we can see some picks and proof, and maybe a reference like ebay if you have one.
Post by: darkmaster2 on September 11, 2006, 10:37:00 PM
EXCELLENT!
Post by: astaufik on September 11, 2006, 10:44:00 PM
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ Sep 12 2006, 10:51 AM)
guess i'll say it first. as much as its nice to know you got the drives, this isnt the place to really post it. but its a good heads up. best bet is make a post in the b/s/t forum.
also, since you only have a few posts and are a fairly new member, others are gonna request pictures of the "batch" that you have in.
i might even bite for a spare drive if we can see some picks and proof, and maybe a reference like ebay if you have one.
Sure, I can provide you with pictures of the samsung dvd drive "batch numbers". and proof.
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ Sep 12 2006, 10:51 AM)
guess i'll say it first. as much as its nice to know you got the drives, this isnt the place to really post it. but its a good heads up. best bet is make a post in the b/s/t forum.
also, since you only have a few posts and are a fairly new member, others are gonna request pictures of the "batch" that you have in.
i might even bite for a spare drive if we can see some picks and proof, and maybe a reference like ebay if you have one.
Sure, I can provide you with pictures of the samsung dvd drive "batch numbers". and proof.
Post by: OzMick on September 11, 2006, 10:29:00 PM
They apparently have heaps, and are the first I know of with an actual physical shop rather than buying online. It doesn't explicitly say they are the correct model number, but upon consultation they were happy enough to confirm, and has just given a 100% read for me in like 15 minutes using Schtrom360Xtract 2.1
Post by: mrjkwik on September 12, 2006, 12:34:00 AM
QUOTE(astaufik @ Sep 12 2006, 12:15 AM)
Sure, I can provide you with pictures of the samsung dvd drive "batch numbers". and proof.
cool. get that thread going in the b/s/t forum with the pics, and i'm sure they'll get swiped right up.
Post by: joshwaan2k on September 12, 2006, 05:25:00 PM
I'm trying to do a backup of my backup Dead rising and Ghost recon, now with Dead rising it starts and then prompt's for the SSbin error and say can't extract and stops the extraction process.
Why is this, Also Ghost recon says can't find video and will not extract when trying to create a complete stealth rip.
Hope this sort of makes sense, I thought making a backup of a backup would be easy.
My Hardware and software I'm using:
Samsung SH-D162C drive v0.8
Samsung flashed with Extreme 3.2 FW
using schtrom 2.1 to try and extract images
Post by: darkmaster2 on September 12, 2006, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(joshwaan2k @ Sep 13 2006, 12:32 AM)
Hi Guys
I'm trying to do a backup of my backup Dead rising and Ghost recon, now with Dead rising it starts and then prompt's for the SSbin error and say can't extract and stops the extraction process.
Why is this, Also Ghost recon says can't find video and will not extract when trying to create a complete stealth rip.
Hope this sort of makes sense, I thought making a backup of a backup would be easy.
My Hardware and software I'm using:
Samsung SH-D162C drive v0.8
Samsung flashed with Extreme 3.2 FW
using schtrom 2.1 to try and extract images
Thats funny, I cant make a backup of a backup either.
Post by: llsTixll on September 12, 2006, 06:52:00 PM
QUOTE(tidyD @ Sep 12 2006, 04:04 AM)
My head hurts
Can not get a Xbox1 game to burn correctly, im using dvdinfo and this guide
http://www.traptrakz.com/X360/tutorial/
im guessin its the ss.bin files.
tried 3 times, one doing the xbox1 way and two doing 360 way.
hope i come up with an answer or some one else can.
There is a problem with the extraction of SS files with XBOX1 games using the SH-D162C with the 0.8 firmware.
To fix it, hexedit the extracted ss.bin and zero out bytes 0200 - 02D0 (excluding byte 02D0). Merge the ss back in burn.
I have done a couple of XBOX1 backups and they work fine.
Post by: jrositas on September 12, 2006, 11:48:00 PM
Post by: mrjkwik on September 13, 2006, 02:05:00 AM
QUOTE(jrositas @ Sep 13 2006, 01:19 AM)
Has anyone tried this with Xbox Backup Creator v2 Build 0100??
yes, and it does work well with 360 backups. with xbox 1 backups you have to do as llsTixll mentioned in the post above yours. all that info can be found in the xbox backukp creator thread in the software forums.
Post by: keystroke on September 13, 2006, 06:42:00 PM
I bought a drive now I just need to flash my Hitachi!
Post by: Bush-Is-My-Hero on September 13, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
QUOTE(jrositas @ Sep 13 2006, 06:19 AM)
Has anyone tried this with Xbox Backup Creator v2 Build 0100??
yeah , i use the Backup_Creator_v2 with the d162c with the 0.8 firmware ,
it makes the full stealth backup with one click ,
and its fasssst , takes under 14 minutes to rip everything
Post by: eqjunkie on September 14, 2006, 03:51:00 AM
Post by: mrjkwik on September 14, 2006, 03:02:00 PM
QUOTE(eqjunkie @ Sep 14 2006, 05:22 AM)
Backs up 360 discs nice but any other disc inserted into the drive wont read, (i.e. DVD movie etc) says disc is unreadable there goes my old option of DVD to DVD copying gone 8-(
could be a few different solutions. maybe relock the drive. reboot the computer. reflash the drive. uninstall the drive from your device manager then reboot. the drives not broke. i had a similiar problem and just had to reflash it. then it was fine again. but those are some other options that may work. i'd try relocking it first.
Post by: darkmaster2 on September 15, 2006, 07:11:00 AM
Post by: mrjkwik on September 15, 2006, 07:18:00 AM
QUOTE(darkmaster2 @ Sep 15 2006, 08:42 AM)
Kreons firmware works great with the SH-D162C drive and schtrom 2.1, i can rip a game and burn it with clone CD. No Problem there. But trying to make a backup of a backup just wont work. ss extraction fails almost straight away. Is there any other settings to try?
sorry, we cant discuss making "backups of backps".
from rules in 360 backup forum
QUOTE
WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED
Any talk of making multiple backups from other backups (no cute excuses like , its for the neighbour/friend who legally owns the copy). If your backup is damaged re-rip the original having disposed of the damaged one. You are legally (in most places not all) allowed one back up of a game you legally own. The staff here are only too well aware of why people want to make multiple backups and its not for legal reasons so it stays away from the posts in here.
Any talk of making multiple backups from other backups (no cute excuses like , its for the neighbour/friend who legally owns the copy). If your backup is damaged re-rip the original having disposed of the damaged one. You are legally (in most places not all) allowed one back up of a game you legally own. The staff here are only too well aware of why people want to make multiple backups and its not for legal reasons so it stays away from the posts in here.
Post by: patricksull on September 15, 2006, 06:55:00 PM
Post by: davbere on September 15, 2006, 10:38:00 PM
Question :
How are the command set additions enabled ? send custom command with dvdinfopro ?
Post by: custom_1 on September 15, 2006, 10:51:00 PM
Samsung SH-S162L LightScribe 16X Black DVD Writer With Software
i see it's S162L but still curious (praying)
Post by: patricksull on September 16, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
QUOTE(patricksull @ Sep 16 2006, 01:26 AM)
Has anyone successfully backed up Dead Rising using THIS method? I can successfully backup the game with 0.6 firmware, and using ss files stored on my pc from an earlier extraction, but if I use 0.8 firmware, no go-just an error that the ss files cannot be extracted, and the program haults.
bump
Post by: sosotiit on September 16, 2006, 10:26:00 AM
In fact since you are on FW 0.8 your image will be ok (and will include the ss.bin).
Other option with sh-d162c is to use Xbox360 Backup Creator which is just as good. It is the evolution of Drive tools and even include a burning engine ( and no error message)
I have done backup with both on fw 0.8 and they both work.
rgds, soso
Post by: patricksull on September 16, 2006, 10:47:00 AM
Post by: bigghek on September 16, 2006, 11:34:00 AM
$20 well spent...............
Post by: davbere on September 16, 2006, 11:49:00 AM
Is it with dvdinfopro ?
Post by: sosotiit on September 16, 2006, 12:59:00 PM
QUOTE(patricksull @ Sep 16 2006, 12:18 PM)
Like I said, I am receiving an error message, which I will gladly ignore, but the program does not continue extracting....it just haults and does NOT extract anything. I just was wondering if it was this game alone, or if it is my system/user error. I recently re-installed windows, hopefully there aren't any system requirments for this program that I don't have installed.
as a first step I would try Xbox360 Backup Creator, it has worked perfectly for me on X360 games.
@Davbere. I haven't heard much about using dvdinfopro with the sh-162c. Sorry for not being able to help. Most user of the 162c seems to use more integrated solution such as Xbox360 Backup Creatoror schtrom.
rgds, soso
This post has been edited by sosotiit: Sep 16 2006, 08:00 PM
Post by: davbere on September 16, 2006, 11:00:00 PM
I have been using schtrom.. It works great. I was just curious about the commands because I was going to try it
regards,
Davbere.
Post by: Murc on September 17, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
Post by: darkmaster2 on September 17, 2006, 11:31:00 AM
QUOTE(Murc @ Sep 17 2006, 05:57 PM)
How do you flash the FW on the SH-D162C drive?
It flashes in windows. couldnt be easier, just read the docs with the firmware pack.
Post by: zeldagadian on September 17, 2006, 01:43:00 PM
QUOTE(daghostmon @ Sep 9 2006, 07:32 PM)
I think the states are out of luck the website says
Online Ordering
We only ship within Canada
sorry I just have to ask where is it... u posted on the 9th of sept it is now the 17th and it is not there so in 8 days it is gone don't make sense to me, if you could provide a link that would be great, i live in canada so it is all good, if anyone else has a link for this drive please let me know thanks
Tim
Post by: sosotiit on September 17, 2006, 01:19:00 PM
Microbytes
rgds, soso
Post by: zeldagadian on September 17, 2006, 02:01:00 PM
edit: I am just wondering a friend of mine has a drive with the following serial SH-D162C/BSBP and it is black will that drive work?
Thanks
This post has been edited by zeldagadian: Sep 17 2006, 09:07 PM
Post by: sosotiit on September 17, 2006, 01:38:00 PM
.sorry
if it is D162C it sounds good
rgds, soso
Post by: lllsondowlll on September 18, 2006, 05:55:00 PM
I live in the us and I need to know
-what drives are available for flashing
-what sites I can buy them from (which do not require shipping prices)
-and if the site is reliable.
thanks. I really wish the firmware would have came out with a more popular drive though :-/ please AIM me at Shad0wlag as soon as you can or reply, I am in a crises here and if I don't find an easier way to burn my games rather than opening up my 360 I am in a world of trouble. Thanks for taking time to read this.
Post by: kungpaomaster on September 18, 2006, 07:06:00 PM
How long does it usually take?
KPM
Post by: mrjkwik on September 18, 2006, 08:06:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...47622&st=15
he's fairly new, with no reps. but sounds legit. someones gonna have to be the first buyer.
gonna cost 50-60 per drive due to shipping.
Post by: jefferelli on September 19, 2006, 05:55:00 AM
QUOTE(patricksull @ Sep 16 2006, 01:26 AM)
Has anyone successfully backed up Dead Rising using THIS method? I can successfully backup the game with 0.6 firmware, and using ss files stored on my pc from an earlier extraction, but if I use 0.8 firmware, no go-just an error that the ss files cannot be extracted, and the program haults.
I am having the same issue. I ignored the error but the program must have halted. I came back about 4 hours later. (This was on Kameo). I will try xbox360 backup creator I guess. And play around with this some more later.
I also have to keep Unequipping the drive from device manager after it fails as it will not recognize the disk. Unequipp and reboot fixes the problem though. I think I will reflash the drive again, can't hurt.
Post by: humpadilly on September 19, 2006, 06:34:00 AM
on xbox backup creator, take speed boost (off) & select your drive.
it fixed some problems i was having with ripping.
Post by: Min on September 19, 2006, 08:11:00 AM
This post has been edited by Min: Sep 19 2006, 03:12 PM
Post by: gsx8o on September 19, 2006, 08:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Min @ Sep 19 2006, 03:18 PM)
Just flashed mine. Works great
. Just gotta find somewhere to put it now , too many drives , got no space left in case .Try an external enclosure for 5.25" drives. Link: http://www.newegg.co...;SubCategory=92
Be sure to buy a decent one though; I hear that some cheap ones stop working after a few months of use.
Post by: gsx8o on September 19, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE(davbere @ Sep 16 2006, 06:20 PM)
Can someone answer how the custom commands are made ?
Is it with dvdinfopro ?
Reply: Yes.
QUOTE(lllsondowlll @ Sep 19 2006, 12:26 AM)
Sorry for bumping but this is urgent.
I live in the us and I need to know
-what drives are available for flashing
-what sites I can buy them from (which do not require shipping prices)
-and if the site is reliable.
thanks. I really wish the firmware would have came out with a more popular drive though :-/ please AIM me at Shad0wlag as soon as you can or reply, I am in a crises here and if I don't find an easier way to burn my games rather than opening up my 360 I am in a world of trouble. Thanks for taking time to read this.
Reply: SH-D162C/TS-H352C drives are compatible with Kreon's FW. The U.S. is completely sold out of those drives. It'll be easier to find them overseas. eBay would be the most reliable.
Post by: pjrblue on September 19, 2006, 09:11:00 AM
QUOTE(gsx8o @ Sep 19 2006, 03:58 PM)
Try an external enclosure for 5.25" drives. Link: http://www.newegg.co...;SubCategory=92
Be sure to buy a decent one though; I hear that some cheap ones stop working after a few months of use.
I use this http://www.mbit.pt/c...i...26&cat=1087
I'm from Portugal, but you can surely get this in another country.
Post by: Min on September 19, 2006, 10:08:00 AM
QUOTE(gsx8o @ Sep 19 2006, 03:58 PM)
Try an external enclosure for 5.25" drives. Link: http://www.newegg.co...;SubCategory=92
Be sure to buy a decent one though; I hear that some cheap ones stop working after a few months of use.
Was thinking about getting one , but don't seem worth it. Drive only cost £14 , external enclosures seem to be £25-30. Enclosure costs more than the drive
.
Post by: investigator on September 21, 2006, 01:10:00 AM
My Samsung SH-D162C flashed firmware "SH-D162C_TS04_XB360_KREON_V060.bin"
Now, sfdnwin.exe not reflash DVD-ROM with SH-D162C_TS04_XB360_KREON_V080.bin and says:
"This firmware is not compability with the selected drive. Contact you system manufactured for information on firmware upadates avaiable for this drive"
Not reflash and with firmware:
SH-D162C_TS00.bin
SH-D162C_TS01.bin
SH-D162C_TS02.bin
SH-D162C_TS03.bin
SH-D162C_TS04.bin
SH-D162C_TS04_XB360_KREON_V060.bin
What the problem, help me!!!
PS sfdnwin.exe -nocheck not worked
Post by: Spodie on September 21, 2006, 02:03:00 AM
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Sep 11 2006, 06:52 PM)
I too can confirm that there are other drives other than the original SH-D162C that use the exact same hardware. The Toshiba SD-M2012C is also the exact same drive and can be crossflashed using the -NOCHECK option in sfdnwin. I've made several working backups using Kreon's previous firmwares and my TS-H943 read Security Sectors. Unfortunately, this drive is just about as hard to find as the other Samsung drives.
This is a good indication the above is true: http://hijacker.rpc1...?path=SH-D162C/
I bought this drive for $60.90 shipped here: http://www.techresel...ducts_id=282140
They are located in New York somewhere & accept Paypal.
Worth a shot.
Post by: Spodie on September 21, 2006, 12:16:00 PM
QUOTE(investigator @ Sep 21 2006, 08:17 AM)
I have problem....
My Samsung SH-D162C flashed firmware "SH-D162C_TS04_XB360_KREON_V060.bin"
Now, sfdnwin.exe not reflash DVD-ROM with SH-D162C_TS04_XB360_KREON_V080.bin and says:
"This firmware is not compability with the selected drive. Contact you system manufactured for information on firmware upadates avaiable for this drive"
Not reflash and with firmware:
SH-D162C_TS00.bin
SH-D162C_TS01.bin
SH-D162C_TS02.bin
SH-D162C_TS03.bin
SH-D162C_TS04.bin
SH-D162C_TS04_XB360_KREON_V060.bin
What the problem, help me!!!
PS sfdnwin.exe -nocheck not worked
Anyone else having problems with upgrading from 0.6 to 0.8?
Post by: davbere on September 21, 2006, 04:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Sep 11 2006, 06:52 PM)
I too can confirm that there are other drives other than the original SH-D162C that use the exact same hardware. The Toshiba SD-M2012C is also the exact same drive and can be crossflashed using the -NOCHECK option in sfdnwin. I've made several working backups using Kreon's previous firmwares and my TS-H943 read Security Sectors. Unfortunately, this drive is just about as hard to find as the other Samsung drives.
can anyone confirm that the Toshiba SD-M2012C works with the Kreon firmware ?
Post by: investigator on September 21, 2006, 11:39:00 PM
Use program from folder without space in name Folder (c:\Temp, but not c:\temp\Samsung SH-D162C)
Sorry? for my bad English.
Post by: snakekevlar on September 22, 2006, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: gnutellafan on September 22, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
QUOTE(snakekevlar @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
i got 5 TS-H352A/BEWP will these work with the Kreon FW...
no.
Post by: snakekevlar on September 22, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
QUOTE(gnutellafan @ Sep 22 2006, 10:34 PM)
no.
i take it becuase the TS-H352A/BEWP does not have the C at the end what does the C mean.... if this is true i really got the shaft ........i ordered 5 of the SH-D162C/BEWPÂ and they gave me these TS-H352A instead saying they were the same exact thing.... but said i could get a refund if i could not use them....
Post by: wak4 on September 22, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Min @ Sep 19 2006, 10:18 AM)
Just flashed mine. Works great
. Just gotta find somewhere to put it now , too many drives , got no space left in case .try this case : http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811133154
That's what I have... You won't need an other case.
BUT... be warned... THIS THING IS HEAVY!!!
Post by: villan_au on September 22, 2006, 09:06:00 PM
Big thanks to the ones that can help me
Post by: davbere on September 23, 2006, 01:12:00 AM
QUOTE(davbere @ Sep 21 2006, 11:32 PM)
can anyone confirm that the Toshiba SD-M2012C works with the Kreon firmware ?
Oh well I will know soon enough I ordered one yesterday.
Post by: Tony42077 on September 24, 2006, 03:44:00 PM
Post by: HoRnEyDvL on September 24, 2006, 08:30:00 PM
Post by: mrjkwik on September 24, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Sep 24 2006, 10:01 PM)
I need an external closure from aus some where.
http://www.nintek.co...idcategory=1088
http://www.techbuy.c...c/NST-525U2.asp
http://search.ebay.c...c...=3&frpp=200
Post by: foaley77 on September 24, 2006, 10:18:00 PM
Just wondering when you upgrade to this firmware can you go back to the normal samsung firmware not that I would just curios
Post by: StrictPuppet on September 25, 2006, 03:02:00 AM
QUOTE(foaley77 @ Sep 24 2006, 09:25 PM)
Cool I'm getting 4 Samsung SH-D162C Drives today
Just wondering when you upgrade to this firmware can you go back to the normal samsung firmware not that I would just curios
Yes you can up or down flash at any time.
Post by: foaley77 on September 25, 2006, 03:51:00 AM
Shit these drives are fast I just ripped Kameo and it took 8:30 mins
the xbox drive took 16 mins
Post by: Blackphoenix on September 26, 2006, 06:50:00 AM
I'm pulling up nothing, well websites that list them but no stock with no ETA.
Post by: roger1079 on September 28, 2006, 06:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Blackphoenix @ Sep 26 2006, 08:21 AM)
Any luck for people in the US to find either of these drives?
I'm pulling up nothing, well websites that list them but no stock with no ETA.
http://www.xecuter.c...products_id=198
they only have the beige drive listed, but when they emailed me telling me it was backordered i asked if tey could ship a black drive instead. my drive was shipped same day and i received it 5 days later. total cost including international hipping was about $77. hope that helps.....
QUOTE(villan_au @ Sep 22 2006, 11:13 PM)
Been looking for 4 hours to find a download for this Kreon Alternative FW for the Samsung SH-D162C drive v0.8 as i got the drive today. can someone please PM me or something so i can get the FW
Big thanks to the ones that can help me