Post by: Xbox-Scene on August 06, 2006, 01:07:00 PM
| We received this email/news from the Fractal Team about the upcoming Fractal 360 chip, an Xbox 360 DVD firmware patchmod: Quote
Official Site: http://www.fractalteam.com |
Post by: KILLplaystation on August 06, 2006, 12:25:00 PM
Post by: DaddyO21 on August 06, 2006, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: malik on August 06, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
QUOTE(DaddyO21 @ Aug 6 2006, 06:33 PM) 
Not another one , god damn it.
another one of what ?
it has almost everything I asked for
- boot the current images.
- less wires to solder.
- well manufactured.
Post by: deadlokIV on August 06, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
The Pcb seems to be of sound quality..
...saying that, I wonder if that'll differ to its mass-produced counterpart.
Keep the mod-chips a'coming
Post by: theblujuggalo on August 06, 2006, 12:41:00 PM
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Post by: OMERTA on August 06, 2006, 12:47:00 PM
Post by: xsirxx on August 06, 2006, 01:08:00 PM
Post by: Ranger72 on August 06, 2006, 01:14:00 PM
I would like to see the install diagram for this. If it is anything like the other ones then they can keep it.
Post by: jtom617 on August 06, 2006, 01:33:00 PM
QUOTE(malik @ Aug 6 2006, 07:43 PM)
another one of what ?
it has almost everything I asked for
- boot the current images.
- less wires to solder.
- well manufactured.
Tell the truth.
Post by: DoOZer79 on August 06, 2006, 01:52:00 PM
Post by: richy_2k on August 06, 2006, 02:35:00 PM
QUOTE(DoOZer79 @ Aug 6 2006, 08:59 PM)
Whats the difference between this and just modding the firmware yourself. The firmware mod doesnt seem very difficult and I would be worried about soldering this on and messing up my dvd. I know it says it leaves your original firmware intact but you can easily flash your drive back with your origial firmware also. I don't get it?
The advantage would be that when you insert an original game the mod would turn itself off, so you are safe to sign into live whilst using an original game.
Post by: DoOZer79 on August 06, 2006, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: sicknasty413 on August 06, 2006, 03:42:00 PM
Post by: xboxexpert on August 06, 2006, 03:57:00 PM
Instead of all these chips we should be investigating weather of not the south bridge chip even supports the commands to check firmware. If they dont then this is a lost cause since ms would never be able to tell if your firmware is patched.
Post by: Tucan on August 06, 2006, 04:34:00 PM
Post by: linnx88 on August 06, 2006, 04:48:00 PM
QUOTE(Tucan @ Aug 6 2006, 11:41 PM)
If you have a dead drive due to bad firmware flash, will this work?
Lol that's like asking, if i get a new engine for a lemon, will it work? NO, if your drive is dead its dead, go get a new xbox.
Post by: KILLplaystation on August 06, 2006, 06:44:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxexpert @ Aug 6 2006, 06:04 PM)
Instead of all these chips we should be investigating weather of not the south bridge chip even supports the commands to check firmware. If they dont then this is a lost cause since ms would never be able to tell if your firmware is patched.
i agree, i would like to know more about this
Post by: bonevichio on August 06, 2006, 09:55:00 PM
Post by: joerack on August 07, 2006, 04:32:00 AM
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Instead of all these chips we should be investigating weather of not the south bridge chip even supports the commands to check firmware. If they dont then this is a lost cause since ms would never be able to tell if your firmware is patched.
Well said- None of these companies that are using C4E's knowledge would be happy if their fake modchips were proven useless ... a nice revenge for C4E definitely
Quite frankly i'd be jumping over the moon in that case.... would be such a strike to M$ ... an undetectable mod to play backups on live , we never managed to do that on Xbox1, so much for all the extra time they invested in impoving the security with next-gen
Post by: rodatthebay on August 07, 2006, 06:16:00 AM
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on August 07, 2006, 06:20:00 AM
how many wires to solder?
i say support C4E and just flash it
peace
Post by: No.1 G on August 07, 2006, 06:46:00 AM
Post by: mksoftware on August 07, 2006, 08:02:00 AM
QUOTE(DaddyO21 @ Aug 6 2006, 08:33 PM)
Not another one , god damn it.
Holy crap. those DVD-Drive mods keep falling out of the sky...
Post by: Textbook on August 07, 2006, 09:01:00 AM
QUOTE(xboxexpert @ Aug 6 2006, 06:04 PM)
Instead of all these chips we should be investigating weather of not the south bridge chip even supports the commands to check firmware. If they dont then this is a lost cause since ms would never be able to tell if your firmware is patched.
Agreed, well said. I think we should leave that to the people at XBH. TheSpecialist, C4E, SeventhSon, GaryOpa, Geremia, Arakon, Birdy. They all know at least something about the firmware and the challenges/responses that are sent. Maybe I'll start the thread asking about southbridge requests.
QUOTE(joerack @ Aug 7 2006, 06:39 AM)
Well said- None of these companies that are using C4E's knowledge would be happy if their fake modchips were proven useless ... a nice revenge for C4E definitely
Quite frankly i'd be jumping over the moon in that case.... would be such a strike to M$ ... an undetectable mod to play backups on live , we never managed to do that on Xbox1, so much for all the extra time they invested in impoving the security with next-gen
Actually, your wrong. The firmware hacks aren't new. C4E released one for the Xbox 1 about a month before working on the Xbox 360 drive. If you have a Samsung SDG-605B drive for the Xbox 1, you can flash the hacked firmware and play backups on Live (on your Xbox 1) without getting banned - same exact thing as the Xbox 360.
QUOTE(mksoftware @ Aug 7 2006, 10:09 AM)
Holy crap. those DVD-Drive mods keep falling out of the sky...
I just don't see how people can buy these...they must be stupid and not look at the entire situation. They offer no advantages over flashing your firmware yourself. The ONLY advantage of this is that you don't actually have to flash firmware. So, if you don't have SATA or your chipset is crappy, then I *might* see why one would buy this. But at $50, why don't you just go and buy a good SATA card instead for ~ $10 ?
Post by: Justincredibal on August 07, 2006, 11:28:00 AM
I'm sick of my XS rss feed getting clogged with more worthless modchips. There is no point in using a mod chip for the FW hack, do you really think that MS will mass ban 360's? Lets think, MS makes the profit off of the games and accessories because they cost less to manufacture than to produce. If they were to ban 360's from live, people would just buy a second system for their backups, and one for originals, for live. They would be buying core systems, which MS loses even more money off of, since you already have the HDD.
But you say you want the best solution, and you think a chip is gonna be it. Well order the chip, pay $30+ (not sure what they cost)wait 1-2 weeks for it to come. Rip apart your 360, voiding your warranty either way, whip out your soldering iron ($10+), if you have one. Buy some solder ($5), and start soldering the 13+ wires to your ODD. Unless you are a semi-seasoned solder, your most likely gonna splash some on your board, hopefully you don't ruin it.
Or
Hookup your ODD to you mobo, use an auto flasher, be finished within a couple of hours, and thats if you can't get your mobo to recognize the drive. Most you'll be paying is like $5 for a sata cable if you dont have one.
My 2 cents
Post by: mksoftware on August 07, 2006, 11:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Aug 7 2006, 05:08 PM)
I just don't see how people can buy these...they must be stupid and not look at the entire situation. They offer no advantages over flashing your firmware yourself. The ONLY advantage of this is that you don't actually have to flash firmware. So, if you don't have SATA or your chipset is crappy, then I *might* see why one would buy this. But at $50, why don't you just go and buy a good SATA card instead for ~ $10 ?
I can agree that with you for 100%
Post by: joerack on August 07, 2006, 12:59:00 PM
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C4E released one for the Xbox 1 about a month before working on the Xbox 360 drive. If you have a Samsung SDG-605B drive for the Xbox 1, you can flash the hacked firmware and play backups on Live (on your Xbox 1) without getting banned - same exact thing as the Xbox 360.
I know.... but this hack was released when the console nearly reached the end of it's lifespan really... and with xbox360 out, well, who has the dough will get the next-gen, however... my concern at the moment is:
-are we sure that they can't detect the altered dvd Fw or they're just taking notes about the situation getting ready to strike back.... yeah I'm being paranoic but,
well that's my two cents
Post by: BuyItModIt on September 28, 2006, 09:10:00 AM
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