Post by: xboxto on July 28, 2006, 08:25:00 PM
however and would like to personally thank the people who made it possible!
I recently found out i had an Toshiba Samsung ms28 and mtkflash has problems reading or flashing these drives with the new revision. Luckily the lads at another well known forum helped out and now i wish to share what i have learned!
Error problem
(IMG:http://www.seeacar.co.uk/error.jpg)
You'll need to strip the dvd drive open and take the controller out!
You notice the big SST chip and just to the right is the vcc resistors, you must remove the resistor in the
middle as the pic below shows already done. Then you must connect a wire to either blue point and a wire
to the red point. You can purchase a simple on/off switch to make this operation better but is not required!
You can simply put the wire ends together when needed.
(IMG:http://www.seeacar.co.uk/novcc.jpg)
After doing this and you now have removed the resistor, attatched wires and maybe an on/off switch
should have something looking like this!
(IMG:http://www.seeacar.co.uk/switch.jpg)
BACKING UP THE KEY AND MS28 FW!
Assuming your sata is detected and everything is working etc Boot into dos, but make sure your wires are
not connected to each other, or if using a switch it is turned off. Go to where your mtkflash is and
type the command as you would usually for the normal method to backup the key but dont hit enter yet!
I.e Mtkflash r /m ms28.bin
Now either join the wires, or turn the switch on! hit enter on the keyboard and you should if done correct
see the ich5 channel or whatever sata port is used. Hit the option for your drive and it should be now
successfully reading the drive and not giving the error as before!
FLASHING YOUR MS28 DRIVE
Word of caution here, KDX will not work with reading and injecting the key out of the file you backup!
You can hexedit the file you backed up and notice from the 4000 mark onwards is a c0 then followed by
your key which is followed by FF's. You can copy and paste the key into the xtreme firmwares you have
already be it the 1.2 or 2.0's and then flash the firmware as normal.
Dont worry about the hex editing! its important to get it correct of cause but your essentially doing the
exact same thing as KDX and copy pasting from the backed up file, to your xtreme.bin etc
Ok so once you have managed to hexedit the key into the xtreme.bin you can now reboot back into dos
making sure the wires were disconnected 1st and ready to redo the flashing stage same way as backing up.
You cannot boot up with the wires already in joined as the sata detection may cause a prob and wont detect it in dos or at the mtkflash stage!
Assuming you have got the wiring still correct and nothing moved out of place, you can now execute the command to flash! i.e mtkflash w /m xtreme.bin
Tools from maplins
1. 12w soldering iron £14.99
2. 30 gauge wire £1.14
3. On/off switch single pass through £1.30
Many thanks and happy to give back if this helps anyone!
enjoy this is confirmed working by me and others!
regards
xboxto
This post has been edited by xboxto: Jul 29 2006, 03:44 AM
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on July 28, 2006, 07:55:00 PM
SO this guide is liek for when you exclusivly see thay error message?
seems risky but GOOD WORK MAN
Post by: xboxto on July 28, 2006, 08:38:00 PM
QUOTE(KUNFUCHOPSTICKS @ Jul 29 2006, 03:02 AM) 
wait: isn't all samsung fw flashable the tradtional way.
SO this guide is liek for when you exclusivly see thay error message?
seems risky but GOOD WORK MAN
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No there is a new replacement for the samsungs it seems!
The ones available in the masses at the moment are the ms25's which work with no fuss!
However this is a new wave of drives and a new response to xtreme firmware!
These will become more popular, so the quicker people learn this the better!
Didn't take too much and isn't that risky! get a 12w soldering iron and 30 gauge wire!
This post has been edited by xboxto: Jul 29 2006, 03:41 AM
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on July 28, 2006, 08:07:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxto @ Jul 28 2006, 10:09 PM) 
No there is a new replacement for the samsungs it seems!
The ones available in the masses at the moment are the ms25's which work with no fuss!
However this is a new wave of drives and a new response to xtreme firmware!
These will become more popular, so the quicker people learn this the better!
Didn't take too much and isn't that risky! get a 12w soldering iron and 30 gauge wire!
ah shit dude. So the new waves are teh ms 28's? damn it!
Yeah, Your gonna need a more pictured guide!
thanks!
Post by: llsTixll on July 28, 2006, 08:44:00 PM
Ignore my post at xboxhacker.net...this tutorial is great.
Thanks for the nice pics! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: xboxto on July 28, 2006, 08:09:00 PM
QUOTE(KUNFUCHOPSTICKS @ Jul 29 2006, 03:14 AM)
ah shit dude. So the new waves are teh ms 28's? damn it!
Yeah, Your gonna need a more pictured guide!
thanks!
We've done all sammy's hassle free in 5 mins! this one has keep us up for 2 days! lol
But we always get there in the end! Im sure many tutorials will come! this is to aid people initially!
Thanx stix did u get it going?
regards
xboxto
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on July 28, 2006, 08:45:00 PM
so i assume the epoxy aroudn the SST chip is to prevent solding wires to there?
thanks
Post by: xboxto on July 28, 2006, 08:50:00 PM
QUOTE(KUNFUCHOPSTICKS @ Jul 29 2006, 03:16 AM)
damn this is heavy.
so i assume the epoxy aroudn the SST chip is to prevent solding wires to there?
thanks
All you do is put the wires on the points after removing the resistor! they act as an on/off when joined or unjoined! anything in picture that looks heavy is probably just the pic! you dont touch the SST chip at all!
Dont worry about any epoxy or anything like that! thats how it is already!
regards
xboxto
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on July 28, 2006, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: xboxto on July 28, 2006, 09:11:00 PM
QUOTE(KUNFUCHOPSTICKS @ Jul 29 2006, 03:26 AM)
yeah man, i was just say... they are really craking down. damn!
We could see other revisions but utlimately the drives are the same hardware!
On the sticker you'll see at the bottom
FW=ms25 or FW=ms28
there has also been other versions previously like ms07 and ms19!
They have never changed the hardware though! meaning there should be a little way round any they do!
May i remind people this is not my work and is purely put on here through my eyes after it worked!
I dont wish to take any credit other than for this simple tutorial put in 1 place!
regards
xboxto
This post has been edited by xboxto: Jul 29 2006, 04:17 AM
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on July 28, 2006, 10:02:00 PM
anyway, wat are the new FW numbers now? (even though they are all 25 you say)
thanks
Post by: xboxto on July 29, 2006, 01:02:00 AM
QUOTE(KUNFUCHOPSTICKS @ Jul 29 2006, 04:33 AM)
still, good find man! thanks
anyway, wat are the new FW numbers now? (even though they are all 25 you say)
thanks
New drives are FW=ms28
you'll come across this soon!
The ones you see usually are FW=ms25
regards
xboxto
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on July 29, 2006, 07:48:00 AM
Do you think you are gonna come out with a newwer guide with more pics soon?
thanks
Post by: llsTixll on July 29, 2006, 08:03:00 AM
Post by: hcrip on July 29, 2006, 09:33:00 AM
Basically, just go about flashing your samsung like normal. When you get to the part where it asks to press 1 or 2 for Master or Slave (just before you flashthe drive), turn off your 360. After it powers down, press the correct channel button. On screen, it will look just like a normaly flash, but it will be in pause mode, waiting for a response from the Sammy drive. After having the system turned off for about 10 seconds, turn it back on. Now that the drive is on, it should flash immediately. This is also known as the Flash Recovery for Sammies. If this doesn't work, then try the VCC trick. This is nicer and safer for those people who aren't skilled with soldering techniques.
Post by: bonevichio on July 29, 2006, 09:18:00 AM
QUOTE(KUNFUCHOPSTICKS @ Jul 29 2006, 02:19 PM)
i just bookmarked this.
Do you think you are gonna come out with a newwer guide with more pics soon?
thanks
I think the pics are damn good. I could do this in about ten minutes. Real easy, just remove the resistor and connect two wires. Boot to dos, connect two wires and flash. Thanks 4 the guide.
QUOTE(llsTixll @ Jul 29 2006, 02:34 PM)
Yeah, this should be a sticky plus on the front page of xbox-scene.com
I agree - who can do it?
Post by: xboxto on July 29, 2006, 11:27:00 AM
QUOTE(hcrip @ Jul 29 2006, 04:04 PM)
Redline at XBH showed me this last week. There is another method to try, which doesn't involve any soldering...
Basically, just go about flashing your samsung like normal. When you get to the part where it asks to press 1 or 2 for Master or Slave (just before you flashthe drive), turn off your 360. After it powers down, press the correct channel button. On screen, it will look just like a normaly flash, but it will be in pause mode, waiting for a response from the Sammy drive. After having the system turned off for about 10 seconds, turn it back on. Now that the drive is on, it should flash immediately. This is also known as the Flash Recovery for Sammies. If this doesn't work, then try the VCC trick. This is nicer and safer for those people who aren't skilled with soldering techniques.
As Redline found out the other night and helped me and pringle! the bad flash recovery method does work but can be very tiresome and needs lots of reattempts for detection of the sata. We spent many hours trying this method and it was very hard for a ms28 and proved unsuccessful for both me and pringle!
The unique thing about the soldering method which is VERY basic soldering and didn't take long at all, is that you can power the drive and switch the drive into state 70 at your time choosing! making detection work perfectly!
regards
xboxto
This post has been edited by xboxto: Jul 29 2006, 06:30 PM
Post by: grandparagon on July 29, 2006, 11:49:00 PM
Post by: scrano on July 30, 2006, 03:09:00 AM
You can play your existing backups, and new backups, as long as the firmware that you flash your drive with, has your drive key at the right location, and it has been edited or hacked to read the security sector of the game that you want to play from the right location, (which is at a different location to the original).
The existing hacked Samsung firmwares have had this done, and if you use one of these to flash your drive then your backups will play as long as you've put the security sector in the right location on the disc that contains the backup.
If you don't want to have to reflash your drive with either, the bad flash recovery method, or with the soldering method, each time you want to get your drive detected, in Windows with xtreme0800.bin. Or when you want to change your drive back to read backups with xtreme.bin or xtreme_proper.bin. Then you should flash your drive with the xtreme20.bin.
You will need to manually hex edit xtreme20.bin (and xtreme.bin for that matter, if you want to use it), if you want to flash your drive with either of them. xtreme.bin and xtreme20.bin have not been patched to work with KDX 1.5. Only extreme_proper.bin has been patched to work with KDX 1.5.
I would recommend flashing your drive with xtreme20.bin, because you will only have to flash your drive with it once. You can then use the enable0800 disc to get your drive detected in Windows each time you want your drive detected in Windows.
If you use xtreme20.bin then you wont have to flash your drive again and therefore will only have to do the soldering method or the bad flash recovery method once.
If you use xtreme.bin or xtreme_proper.bin you will have to reflash your drive everytime you want to change modes of the drive, which will mean that you'll have to use either the bad flash recovery method or the soldering method every time you have to reflash your drive.
Post by: llsTixll on July 30, 2006, 05:49:00 AM
Hey, has anyone jumped on LIVE with the hacked fw and playing a game backup?
Post by: xboxto on July 30, 2006, 02:41:00 PM
(IMG:http://www.seeacar.co.uk/DCP_1590.JPG)
Dont panic with this and practice on an old graphics card or something!
We didn't have the best soldering experience at all! but managed just fine!
Think about what you need to do and make sure you dont get a too powerful soldering iron!
regards
xboxto
This post has been edited by xboxto: Jul 30 2006, 09:46 PM
Post by: xboxto on July 31, 2006, 10:29:00 AM
We resell some here and there! and lets say uk shores are getting new batches!
I think somebody REALLY needs to make a new revised full sammy tutorial ASAP
I would have thought some experienced members would have already done this and
would like a tutorial within their website around new drives that are going to stump people!
Whilst this is on the forums, i dont see any information on the website!
Next reply following this needs to be a volunteer plz!
This post has been edited by xboxto: Jul 31 2006, 05:30 PM
Post by: Andy Hewitt on July 31, 2006, 10:43:00 AM
UK Only please.
EDIT.
Just getting another Sammy in for Flash repair. Fingers crossed its a MS28.
This post has been edited by Andy Hewitt: Jul 31 2006, 05:56 PM
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on July 31, 2006, 05:16:00 PM
and damn!
please geebee update your guide? IF your away i can do it, or someone else. what ever it takes come on!
thanks
Post by: bonevichio on July 31, 2006, 07:24:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxto @ Jul 30 2006, 09:12 PM)
Nice pic - question though...
can you flash the pcb and chip without it in the casing like you have it shown? Pretty cool!
I see the power and sata connections and the simple switch installed.
thanks 4 your work!
This post has been edited by bonevichio: Aug 1 2006, 02:25 AM
Post by: chinozzz on July 31, 2006, 07:35:00 PM
QUOTE(llsTixll @ Jul 30 2006, 12:20 PM)
Gees you always have good replies scrano - good job.
Hey, has anyone jumped on LIVE with the hacked fw and playing a game backup?
I have with no issues...
Post by: xboxto on August 01, 2006, 07:35:00 AM
QUOTE(bonevichio @ Aug 1 2006, 01:55 AM)
Nice pic - question though...
can you flash the pcb and chip without it in the casing like you have it shown? Pretty cool!
I see the power and sata connections and the simple switch installed.
thanks 4 your work!
Yes no problem for flashing the way you see it in the pic!
I would advise doing it outside the dvd casing/chassis!
I would recommend making the switch useable for every drive you get!
So put 2 short wires coming of the dvd controller, and attach 2 long wires from your switch!
The short wires on the controller can be tied when done and put discreetly away.
This way you dont knock the wires with the casing! you can just close the wires once done nice
and neatly out of harms way, then put it all back together!
P.S Should be a sticky! but think the right people haven't noticed yet as its quite important i'd think!
and enough correct illustrations!
regards
xboxto
This post has been edited by xboxto: Aug 1 2006, 02:49 PM
Post by: kutje on August 03, 2006, 10:36:00 PM
with the 2 wires connected it runs normal.
but with wires disconnected it wont even detect in my pc. and when i attach it on the xbox it gives error 65.
maybe i did wrong solder? messed up the flash circuit?
Post by: reznor666 on August 05, 2006, 12:49:00 AM
Post by: xtremboxman on August 05, 2006, 08:28:00 AM
QUOTE(hcrip @ Jul 29 2006, 04:04 PM)
Redline at XBH showed me this last week. There is another method to try, which doesn't involve any soldering...
Basically, just go about flashing your samsung like normal. When you get to the part where it asks to press 1 or 2 for Master or Slave (just before you flashthe drive), turn off your 360. After it powers down, press the correct channel button. On screen, it will look just like a normaly flash, but it will be in pause mode, waiting for a response from the Sammy drive. After having the system turned off for about 10 seconds, turn it back on. Now that the drive is on, it should flash immediately. This is also known as the Flash Recovery for Sammies. If this doesn't work, then try the VCC trick. This is nicer and safer for those people who aren't skilled with soldering techniques.
Anybody have tested this method and does it work ? because im scary about open and modify the dvdrom thanks
Post by: grandparagon on August 10, 2006, 02:20:00 AM
QUOTE(xtremboxman @ Aug 6 2006, 12:05 AM)
Anybody have tested this method and does it work ? because im scary about open and modify the dvdrom thanks
I am also curious about this. I really dont want to have to dismantle the dvd drive and i dont want to solder anything either. If this badflash recovery works (even if it takes hours), i'd much MUCH rather that.
Also, with the new xtreme30 firmware, there are no changes to this, correct?
Post by: Textbook on August 10, 2006, 07:15:00 AM
Post by: boydy on August 10, 2006, 05:55:00 PM
i have followed all info available with no success inc vcc trick. have done 6 others no probs
but cant get this bast*** to dump or read.
plus no one has really confirmed that this version FW has been done, apart from a couple of people. as far as i can see most people seem to be stuck with this version.
any help would be gratefully appreciated
must have spent 20 hours or so trying everything,
Post by: llsTixll on August 10, 2006, 06:12:00 PM
QUOTE(boydy @ Aug 11 2006, 09:26 AM)
has anyone actually managed to do the MS28 yet.
i have followed all info available with no success inc vcc trick. have done 6 others no probs
but cant get this bast*** to dump or read.
plus no one has really confirmed that this version FW has been done, apart from a couple of people. as far as i can see most people seem to be stuck with this version.
any help would be gratefully appreciated
must have spent 20 hours or so trying everything,
Try this
http://www.xboxhacke...hp?topic=2784.0
I would be interested to know if it works.
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on August 10, 2006, 07:01:00 PM
yeah this method works... if you read all posts many people confirmed it. and that link above ^ that shoyuld work too!
peace
we shoud really sticky this
thsi justmight be teh key of teh future
Post by: boydy on August 11, 2006, 04:43:00 AM
please help
Post by: xxblue on August 11, 2006, 06:37:00 AM
what is the address range to replace . still 4000 - 4400? thx
Post by: Exobex on August 11, 2006, 06:38:00 PM
Just so folks know, once you've flashed, if you want to remove the switch you don't need to resolder the resistor. It's just a zero-ohm link, so a gob of solder across the points will do nicely.
Post by: bigkevt on August 13, 2006, 07:26:00 AM
Post by: BILKO1 on August 13, 2006, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(bigkevt @ Aug 13 2006, 01:57 PM)
when i switch on xbox without wires touching the green light in the center starts flashing and there is no way pc will recognise it unless wires are touched, i have no problems doing other sammys and hitachi`s, not sure if this matters but drive is dated may 2006,wires have to be connected initially for mtkflash to recognise drive in dos , but after it has been recognised then sometimes mtkflash will recognise drive with wires disconnected after xbox is turned off then on again , very temperemental , i`ve tried various combinations, i get status 0, status 51 and status 80, i did however managed to get into writing mode only once but it froze saying updating 00% , luckily drive still works fine obviously not flashed succesfully though, this is getting very starnge
Exactly the same here, drive is dated May 2006 pc bios won't recognise dvd on sata unless wires are connected.
Post by: xxblue on August 13, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
i just bought xbox360 last week at sydney.
maybe there is some diffferents between the ms28. any suggestion?
Post by: Pecker8u on August 14, 2006, 03:33:00 AM
QUOTE(xxblue @ Aug 14 2006, 05:41 AM)
i have the same problem, the wire have to be connected, otherwise the computer cant detcet the drive.
i just bought xbox360 last week at sydney.
maybe there is some diffferents between the ms28. any suggestion?
Hello all,
I am having the same issues. I did the resistor mod with switch but will not work with wires disconnected upon bootup as DVD drive isn't recognised. The Green led on the front of the Xbox360 flashes green.
What is the solution to this issue? Tried booting up and waiting, then hitting command in dos. no go.
Any help much appreciated!
Post by: BILKO1 on August 14, 2006, 04:45:00 AM
I'm booting from 2gb usb pen drive and my motherboard is a Asus P5P800 (ICH5) with 2 sata connectors (i've tried both)
Post by: Pecker8u on August 14, 2006, 04:51:00 AM
QUOTE(BILKO1 @ Aug 14 2006, 11:16 AM)
Perhaps all of us with problems should list our hardware.
I'm booting from 2gb usb pen drive and my motherboard is a Asus P5P800 (ICH5) with 2 sata connectors (i've tried both)
Asus Motherboard A7V8X-X with a PCI to SATA controller card. VIA 6421 chipset. I am booting off a floppy choosing option 2 as "via6421 primary master" I have diasbled every other drive except hard drive.
I acquired the MTKFLASH off xbins from a rar file called "Toshiba-Samsung_360_Auto_Flasher_v3.rar". Inside that there is a firmware folder, then a via folder, I used that as it is expecially for via chipsets.
I did the resistor mod with switch but will not work with wires disconnected upon bootup as DVD drive isn't recognised. The Green led on the front of the Xbox360 flashes green.
Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks
Post by: Exobex on August 14, 2006, 02:57:00 PM
Try this:-
Boot with power connected, wires disconnected, SATA disconnected
When ready to read firmware, connect SATA, connect wires, read
Use your favourite method of copying the drive key (X360SAM, hexedit, etc.)
Shut down, disconnect wires, disconnect SATA
Boot with power connected, wires disconnected, SATA disconnected
When ready to write firmware, connect SATA, connect wires, write
Post by: Pecker8u on August 14, 2006, 04:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Exobex @ Aug 14 2006, 09:28 PM)
Worked fine for me.
Try this:-
Boot with power connected, wires disconnected, SATA disconnected
When ready to read firmware, connect SATA, connect wires, read
Use your favourite method of copying the drive key (X360SAM, hexedit, etc.)
Shut down, disconnect wires, disconnect SATA
Boot with power connected, wires disconnected, SATA disconnected
When ready to write firmware, connect SATA, connect wires, write
Thanks for this.
I cant understand how disconnecting the wires upon bootup will help as the drive has no power and the Xbox does not recognise the drive. Is that right?
Post by: Exobex on August 14, 2006, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Exobex @ Aug 14 2006, 09:28 PM)
Boot with power connected, wires disconnected, SATA disconnected
QUOTE(Pecker8u @ Aug 14 2006, 11:14 PM)
Thanks for this.
I cant understand how disconnecting the wires upon bootup will help as the drive has no power and the Xbox does not recognise the drive. Is that right?
Why does the drive have no power?
Post by: Pecker8u on August 14, 2006, 09:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Exobex @ Aug 15 2006, 12:30 AM)
Why does the drive have no power?
When the wires on the drive are disconnected, the DVD drive simply does NOT power up. If reconnected the drive does not start to power up, it is simply left in the same state.
Anybody with F/W=ms28 and done this resistor switch trick successfully please fine tune details on how to get around my issue.
Regards
Post by: kutje on August 14, 2006, 11:13:00 PM
i have intel socket487 mb with onboard sata. the trick didnt work (yet).
Post by: Pecker8u on August 15, 2006, 01:05:00 AM
QUOTE(kutje @ Aug 15 2006, 05:44 AM)
i think it has to do with our hardware.
i have intel socket487 mb with onboard sata. the trick didnt work (yet).
I don't think so. I think it has to do with the Xbox DVD drive booting wires disconnected, it seems to plague everything else as it causes the Xbox to flash green light and power disabled on DVD drive.
Any ideas anyone?
Post by: neomaximus2k on August 15, 2006, 10:01:00 AM
I am thinking there is a problem with the NFx Chipset boards with the 28 firmware but sadly having trouble hunting down a good board.
I am after a VIA8237 chipset wether it is a controller card of main board i dont mind even with my contacts in the hardware industry having a hard time.
btw I am UK based (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: Exobex on August 15, 2006, 10:19:00 AM
Post by: neomaximus2k on August 16, 2006, 12:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Exobex @ Aug 15 2006, 04:50 PM)
I did it with a VIA EPIA SP13000, onboard VIA8237 SATA (which doesn't work with Hitachis, so I use a cheap USB-SATA adapter from eBay for those), PnP OS disabled.
Well I now have the 3 biggest hardware distributers in europe hunting down a controller card or board with that model SATA lets hope I can find one
Post by: bninja on August 16, 2006, 05:35:00 AM
i checked my firmware and it has this line repeated over and over...
002122232425262728292A2B2C2D002F003132333435363738393A3B003D00004041424344454647
48494A4B4C000000005152535455565758595A5B005D0000606162636465666768696A0000006E6F
7071727374750077007900007C7D7E7F
!"#$%&'()*+,-./.123456789:;[email protected][.]..`abcdefghij...nopqrstu.w.y..|}~
that's a bad thing right?
if i understand correctly i had a bad dump of the orig.bin and now i'm rooted...
Post by: pizza-man on August 16, 2006, 07:12:00 AM
wont read firmware
also read all tutorials about it
Post by: bninja on August 16, 2006, 07:16:00 AM
have you hex edited mtkflash for the chipset of your sata controller?
Post by: neomaximus2k on August 16, 2006, 07:54:00 AM
QUOTE(bninja @ Aug 16 2006, 01:47 PM)
you need to give more information about what you've tried and where you've encountered problems
have you hex edited mtkflash for the chipset of your sata controller?
Well i feel like this guy. Originally I could not get the MS28 to read on an NF4 chipset board, it would see the drive in the bios but not when it came to mtkflash, after hexxing the software twice to make sure it was correct it was still doing the same thing and that is when it came to reading the info off the chipset it sits there and does sweet FA, even after leaving it for an hour.
I have even gone so far as to buy a different board (Intel chipset ASRock - ASROCK SKT-478 P4I65G S/V/L M-ATX 800FSB )
it recognised the sata chipset ich5 but when it came to reading info of the firmware it just sits there..
This is now becomming very anoying and is costing me a lot of money (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) has anyone had problems with this and how did they overcome the problem.
Post by: bninja on August 16, 2006, 08:02:00 AM
pc and 360 off
plug in sata cable to 360, leave the 360 off and boot the pc
once booted type in "mtkflash r /sata /m orig.bin"
turn on 360 and press enter on pc straight away
once option is presented for master/slave, connect wires and press "1" (or correct option)
this worked for me to both read and write the drive... but it didn't turn out to good in the end...
Post by: neomaximus2k on August 16, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
QUOTE(bninja @ Aug 16 2006, 02:33 PM)
this worked for me to both read and write the drive... but it didn't turn out to good in the end...
dare I ask why?
Post by: dimmellee on August 16, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
Reconnected the wires and job done. I am useless at soldering but I still managed. easy job.
Post by: bninja on August 17, 2006, 01:33:00 AM
lol
well it turns out it wasn't a good read and i got a firmware full of (in ASCII)
!"#$%&'()*+,-./.123456789:;[email protected][.]..`abcdefghij...nopqrstu.w.y..|}~
and not much else - which leaves me pretty screwed...
so my steps, while working to get the drive recognised and the flash dumped, didn't result in a good dump for me...
i guess i should have dumped twice and compared them before going any further...
ah well... live and learn
Post by: Pecker8u on August 18, 2006, 02:40:00 AM
QUOTE(Pecker8u @ Aug 14 2006, 11:58 AM)
Asus Motherboard A7V8X-X with a PCI to SATA controller card. VIA 6421 chipset. I am booting off a floppy choosing option 2 as "via6421 primary master" I have diasbled every other drive except hard drive.
I acquired the MTKFLASH off xbins from a rar file called "Toshiba-Samsung_360_Auto_Flasher_v3.rar". Inside that there is a firmware folder, then a via folder, I used that as it is expecially for via chipsets.
I did the resistor mod with switch but will not work with wires disconnected upon bootup as DVD drive isn't recognised. The Green led on the front of the Xbox360 flashes green.
Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks
After many hours of trying I hereby confirm the mod for the F/W=ms28 DOES work! but as many suggested it is very very touchy, you need to play alot to get it right. My apologies to the member who said it could be my hardware. The flashing green light is normal and what seems like a lack of power to the drive (wires disconnected) is also normal for reading/flashing the drive.
I have a cheap PCI to SATA card that I bought from a local computer store in Australia (and available worldwide) it has VIA 6421A chipset, I hereby confirm you dont need to have the 6421L chipset the"A" version is still ok. You must have a modified Mtkflash file, I acquired the MTKFLASH file off xbins from a rar file called "Toshiba-Samsung_360_Auto_Flasher_v3.rar" under firmware/VIA folder, works like a treat!
I got it working by ensuring the drivers were installed correctly for the PCI card and there were no conflicts.
I then followed this tutorial precisely, except /m switch was added
CODE
http://sickmods.net/shared-directories/deakphreak/firmware-flash/
The trick is you need to get the PC and the Xbox perfectly is Sync i.e recognise each other through your new PCI card. To do this you may need to reboot the PC several times to DOS (via floppy disk) and vice versa with the xbox (wires disconnected) until the mod works. Also It is very important that you connect the SATA cable first then the Wires/switch as it wouldn't work otherwise. Leaving the PC/Xbox on without reboots can cause the card to halt and will never flash as it looks for the right code.
If you have tried the above and it still doesn't work, try it on another PC. The good thing is it can be an old crap PC it doesn't need much to run the PCI card and dos program, I got it going on a spare PC 733Mhz after my Primary PC would not do it.
Be aware that the wire mod is extremely dangerous, if the wires are left hanging around and shorted to earth it will destroy the drive, just ask me I bricked my drive (but I extracted the firmware luckily). I am extremely angry, so take advice.....be careful!
Pecker8u
Post by: tonymfoley on August 18, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
I had just ordered a new sata card and read this thread, it turned out i had one of the new drives
Used this thread did the wire trick and hey it worked
This has to be made a sticky
Post by: Mana on August 18, 2006, 08:12:00 PM
i got an m28 today and sadly i cant extract it with mtkflash
Post by: llsTixll on August 18, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxto @ Aug 1 2006, 11:06 PM)
Yes no problem for flashing the way you see it in the pic!
I would advise doing it outside the dvd casing/chassis!
I would recommend making the switch useable for every drive you get!
So put 2 short wires coming of the dvd controller, and attach 2 long wires from your switch!
The short wires on the controller can be tied when done and put discreetly away.
This way you dont knock the wires with the casing! you can just close the wires once done nice
and neatly out of harms way, then put it all back together!
P.S Should be a sticky! but think the right people haven't noticed yet as its quite important i'd think!
and enough correct illustrations!
regards
xboxto
So with the short wires coming from the controller points, do you connect them when you replace everything back into the 360?
Post by: Pecker8u on August 19, 2006, 12:54:00 AM
QUOTE(llsTixll @ Aug 19 2006, 03:46 AM)
So with the short wires coming from the controller points, do you connect them when you replace everything back into the 360?
When everything is normal and you are ready to assemble the 360, the wires should be connected permanenetly or the original resistor put back. As the resistor is Ohms a blob of solder across the two points will also do the trick
Post by: Textbook on August 19, 2006, 01:31:00 AM
Post by: Ygooral on August 19, 2006, 05:07:00 AM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Aug 19 2006, 08:38 AM)
I just flashed an MS28 tonight. As soon as I saw that sticker, my stomach churned. I had previously read this entire thread, getting knowledge. I was still not too comfortable with trying MS28. It was easy. No harder than MS25. Bad flash recovery mode worked perfect. By the way, I had to do /sata or it wouldn't detect. Make sure you notice that, it took me a few tries to remember the /sata switch. As soon as I did that, my VIA VT6421L PCI SATA card (I used hex-edited MTKFlash) showed right up. I turned off the Xbox 360, selected the Sata card, and turned the Xbox 360 back on ten seconds later. Started reading immediately, just like it's suppossed to. One thing you might want to realize is that the dumping is all done on one line that starts over. Whereas with MS25, it dumps a bank, goes to next line, dumps, next line, etc... The MS28 dumps banks on the same line, so it looks like it is looping, going from 0 to 100% and starting over again. Plus, it seemed to take a lot longer than dumping an MS25. Let it go, even if you think it's looping. So I had the orig.bin firmware, and it was really easy, just patched it to Xtreme using Flash78. Flashed it using the bad flash recovery method, works perfect. I didn't have to solder a thing and it worked first try.
Hi!. I understand that you hex-edited the MTKFlash just to be sure that you'll be right with your SATA config. If I'm fine with my MTKflash for ms25 version right now, i don't need to do anything with my MTKflash to support ms28, right?
Also, could you please describe a little bit more the "bad flash recovery method" you used. Just to be sure I've read the right docs ;-)
Thanks in advance.
Post by: rodpad on August 19, 2006, 04:00:00 PM
I basically just did the "bad flash" routine.
For those having problems in regards to NOT having the 2 options/channels to select - follow my instructions below:
PC CDROM connected to IDE
X360 DVD connected to SATA.
Leave the 360 OFF
Turn the PC ON and boot from floppy/USB
Turn on 360
MTKFLASH r /m /sata orig.bin
At this point you should now have 2 options as the 360 is already on.
Turn OFF your 360.
Now, literally a millisecond after turning the 360 back ON, press the number on your keyboard that corresponds to the right controller (ie, SATA/VIA/8237 and NOT Ide). Be careful here to chose the right channel.
It'll go from 0%-100% a few times, don't worry
I then ran X360SAM 0.2 to inject the key into Xtreme30.bin and then flashed the drive using the same instructions above but using MTKFLASH w /m /sata newx30.bin (or whatever you call your injected/edited bios)
It seems for now that some motherboards just aren't compatible.
My main PC with a Aopen AK77-600GN motherboard would not read the 360 AT ALL. I wouldn't even get an error code, just a simple "drive not found" error. I even hex edited mtkflash and still no luck.
However, I finally found success on another PC that's got an MSI motherboard (don't know the make/model)
Both had VIA 8237 SATA onboard...
Hope this helps (and makes sense!)
Post by: Realizt on August 20, 2006, 12:23:00 AM
Have been trying for 3 days and still, all I get is status 00, 51 or 80 errors
Mind you these errors only come up when I hit escape as nothing is happening. What I want to know from all those who successfully flashed it, did you flash it with the controller board completely removed from the rest of the drive (ie: cables all unplugged from controller board) or did you just leave everything connected to the controller board still. This is the only other thing I can think of that may be causing the problem.
Any help greatly appreciated dudes
Post by: Pecker8u on August 20, 2006, 12:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Realizt @ Aug 20 2006, 07:30 AM)
Okay I have tried every method uner the sun. VCC switch, dead flash recovery method and even every different timing method that i can think of as to when to push enter, etc
Have been trying for 3 days and still, all I get is status 00, 51 or 80 errors
Mind you these errors only come up when I hit escape as nothing is happening. What I want to know from all those who successfully flashed it, did you flash it with the controller board completely removed from the rest of the drive (ie: cables all unplugged from controller board) or did you just leave everything connected to the controller board still. This is the only other thing I can think of that may be causing the problem.
Any help greatly appreciated dudes
I experienced the same problems and got it going trying various methods suggested by members here and some of my own methods. Check my posts above and 1 page beyond for my findings.
I assume you have a ms=28? What SATA chipset do you have? Is the hardware functioning correctly, did you check the hardware list on the PC? If you reckon all is good with the card try another PC, you will know after that. I had issues and when I switched PC's it came up straight away.
Pecker8u
Post by: Realizt on August 20, 2006, 04:16:00 AM
Thats more than just tempremental, its a pain in the arse. At least it will be worth it. Will be able to put my original copy of DOA4 away for safe keeping (Needs to be done when u got kids
)Hopefully writing the flash back wont give me soo much grief
Post by: fozey on August 20, 2006, 07:32:00 AM
Post by: BILKO1 on August 20, 2006, 07:35:00 AM
QUOTE(Realizt @ Aug 20 2006, 11:23 AM)
Yay, got it reading.
Thats more than just tempremental, its a pain in the arse. At least it will be worth it. Will be able to put my original copy of DOA4 away for safe keeping (Needs to be done when u got kids
)Hopefully writing the flash back wont give me soo much grief
What did you do in the end that worked? i have exactly the same probs that you had and i have the ich5 chipset.
Post by: Realizt on August 20, 2006, 07:49:00 AM
QUOTE(fozey @ Aug 20 2006, 02:39 PM)
how do you tell if you have a ms28?
Says the fw version on the sticker on the top of the drive
Very hard to tell from just serial number. From what I have seen they all seem to be having the ms28 (at least here is Aust as far as I can tell)
Post by: Degszie on August 20, 2006, 05:05:00 PM
and after reading many of the reported methods
tried for 90 mins to get the firmware to read
with different results
got it to read and stick at 0% many times
or no drive found
in the end i found the best method was
turn on 360 with dvd power and sata connected to pc (but switch/wires open =off)
and turn pc on with usb flashdrive as boot device (no ide drives or other sata drives connected)
pc bios will look for sata and give up after a while
boot to mktflash
mktflash r /m "bios name.bin" --> enter
(select drive 1 or 2)
connect wires (or switch whichever method you have used)
as soon (and i mean with NO DELAY !!) as you have connected wires or turned switch on select appropriat drive 1 or 2
started reading firmware instantly
this method for me 3 times tonight on 3 different dvd drives without fail
(oh and i find using hex editor best method)
BTW was in intel chipset motherboard
hope this helps others was doing my head in
Post by: llsTixll on August 20, 2006, 05:48:00 PM
Post by: Atreyu on August 20, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
and another thought.. would we be able to hack MTKFLASH to try to read if the drive gives the message 51 instead of 70?
Post by: llsTixll on August 21, 2006, 12:16:00 AM
If mtkflash can see your 360 drive already but it's doing the pause thing, it should be ok use. Just whack a PC CDROM or DVD drive on an IDE channel so after you hit enter on the mtkflash command, it gives an option (1 or 2) to choose 360 drive or IDE drive.
Post by: Textbook on August 21, 2006, 04:27:00 AM
So....you need a VIA chipset (8237 or 6421), may need the hex-edited MTKFlash, need a pc cd/dvd drive hooked up to IDE in order to use bad flash method.
Post by: Textbook on August 21, 2006, 06:09:00 AM
I have a VIA chipset, I'll test the activate.iso when I get off work.
Post by: Textbook on August 21, 2006, 07:07:00 AM
Good luck to anybody flashing MS28, let us know if it works out.
Also...in case anybody cares, I updated Geebee's tutorial and included instructions for flashing an MS28 drive.
Post by: firestorm2yk on August 22, 2006, 04:08:00 AM
I was too damn impatient to wait to get a via sata controller so tried my hand at soldering for the first time, and surprisingly, everything went well.Though oblivion seems to spin pretty fast and make lots of noise (it's an original) while the backups of other games dont seem to spin much at all. Is this just the case with oblivion?
BIG thanks goes to Xboxto who posted this tutorial and especially big thanks goes to the others who put the work into this. I'd also like to say SCREW YOU! to MS who is reponsible for my heightened blood pressure over the last few days.
Now it's time to start backping up my games.
Post by: jackel7007 on August 23, 2006, 03:29:00 AM
first my specs:
xbox 360
MS28 asus a8n-sli SE
nforce4 chipset/sata controller
It seems MTKflash does recognize my drive as it gives me the option 1 master or 2 slave
but after choosing 1 master it gives me the following line:
port 9e0 master/slave a0
and that's where it like freezes (not for real, pressing CTRL + C will terminate the job and get me back to a: or c:
I have readed all this topic and seen a lot of different options.
I saw the "wire trick"
the bad flash recovery trick
and the VCC trick
(maybe there was even more, can't remember it all at once :-)
what should I try?
i guess my drive IS detected but it just doesn't let it be read or something.
please reply in different steps what to do, so it is easy to understand and also usefull for other persons.
Post by: PlaStiCam on August 23, 2006, 04:39:00 AM
QUOTE(jackel7007 @ Aug 23 2006, 10:36 AM)
i'm not sure anymore what my problem is...
first my specs:
xbox 360
MS28 asus a8n-sli SE
nforce4 chipset/sata controller
It seems MTKflash does recognize my drive as it gives me the option 1 master or 2 slave
but after choosing 1 master it gives me the following line:
port 9e0 master/slave a0
and that's where it like freezes (not for real, pressing CTRL + C will terminate the job and get me back to a: or c:
I have readed all this topic and seen a lot of different options.
I saw the "wire trick"
the bad flash recovery trick
and the VCC trick
(maybe there was even more, can't remember it all at once :-)
what should I try?
i guess my drive IS detected but it just doesn't let it be read or something.
please reply in different steps what to do, so it is easy to understand and also usefull for other persons.
jackel7007, i have exactly the same mobo as you and have tried everything i can including the 2 wire/VCC trick to get an MS28 to flash with no success at all.
All other hitachi's and samsungs have never been a problem.
I have ordered a cheap VIA sata card to put in an old PC i have which seems to be the common solution for the MS28 after reading on here.
Post by: jackel7007 on August 23, 2006, 05:33:00 AM
QUOTE(PlaStiCam @ Aug 23 2006, 11:46 AM)
jackel7007, i have exactly the same mobo as you and have tried everything i can including the 2 wire/VCC trick to get an MS28 to flash with no success at all.
All other hitachi's and samsungs have never been a problem.
I have ordered a cheap VIA sata card to put in an old PC i have which seems to be the common solution for the MS28 after reading on here.
dude,
what is the problem you have?
does it say that your status is for example 51 and should be 70
or does it say:
choose your drive, you choose 1
then it shows:
port 9e0 Master/Slave: a0
(with the flashing cursor here)
and further nothing..?
the last thing is what I have.
it just stays like that..
for like 30 min. now
i'm leaving it.
Post by: llsTixll on August 23, 2006, 06:31:00 AM
QUOTE(jackel7007 @ Aug 23 2006, 09:40 PM)
dude,
what is the problem you have?
does it say that your status is for example 51 and should be 70
or does it say:
choose your drive, you choose 1
then it shows:
port 9e0 Master/Slave: a0
(with the flashing cursor here)
and further nothing..?
the last thing is what I have.
it just stays like that..
for like 30 min. now
i'm leaving it.
I wouldn't leave it - it's not going to do anything. If the flash is successful, it'll start immediately.
Post by: Textbook on August 23, 2006, 08:53:00 AM
Plasticam , if you tried the VCC switch and it still won't work , that's weird. You also hex-edited your MTKFlash, right? If you can't get hexedit + MTKFlash to work, I'd say it's easier to just get the VIA VT 6421L card off Newegg and bad flash recovery flash it.
Post by: jackel7007 on August 23, 2006, 10:40:00 AM
even after smoke came of of the resistor (starting to believe it was the epoxy...)
my xbox stil is fine
but, unfortunately still... not managed to read the originial firmware..
and back it up
Post by: jackel7007 on August 23, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
it runs..
half
runs games half,...
stops at loading screens etc telling me the disc is dirty etc....
can this be fixed?
what could be broken?...
dammed..
please help
one of the wires for the VCC trick shortcutted against the resister next to it.. (the one closer to the square thingy)...
can I test it or so?
can i replace it?
Post by: firestorm2yk on August 23, 2006, 11:42:00 AM
I first attempted soldering a XenoGC modchip to a gamecube and bungled it up royally because i used a 25 Watt soldering iorn with thick solder and an "Ice Pick" tip. Make sure you use the right tools for the job, a 14 watt (i used a 17 watt because i couldnt find a 14) soldering iron, the thinest solder you can find and a magnifying glass but most important of all... take your time.
Make sure you have an old cdrom or dvdrom plugged into an ide channel on your mainboard as well as the xbox 360 dvdrom so that you get the option to chose which to flash and make sure you have a good edited version of MTKFlash.
Big props goes to the people on this forum for posting this info.
Post by: jackel7007 on August 23, 2006, 11:55:00 AM
maybe someone can help me out...
there are 3 resistors on a row...
C407
R408 (red and blue dot in the image)
R409
should my voltmeter make sound (when + and - make contact) when I put one tip on the red square...
the other tip on R409 on the top
(in the picture the contact point right next to the red square)
in my current it does...
Is there any way I can test if C407 is still fine because here it went glowing... at least the epoxy on top of it...
sometimes it boots, sometimes it doesn't...
I want to fix it ASAP
and then wait for a good hack without soldering wires or other "dangerous" shit...
Very mutch thanks to the person willing to help me...
(maybe you can tell me some values which I can test to make sure all is still fine..
I know standard electronic, but just very standard...
I know what Ohm watt etc means, and how to mease for instance the Ohm of the resistors
thanks in advance
regards
Post by: jackel7007 on August 23, 2006, 12:24:00 PM
i think the best idea is to get R408 and R409 off of the print, and then place them back after cleaning the sh*t
C407 can't be damaged by a little sparkle I think? (someone knowing better?)
Post by: BILKO1 on August 23, 2006, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: Realizt on August 23, 2006, 05:27:00 PM
QUOTE(jackel7007 @ Aug 23 2006, 07:31 PM)
is there any way to clean of all the dirt/solder...
i think the best idea is to get R408 and R409 off of the print, and then place them back after cleaning the sh*t
C407 can't be damaged by a little sparkle I think? (someone knowing better?)
You should be able to remove excess solder using soldering wick. Its basically like a thin strip of metal mesh that when heated on top of the solder, will absorb any solder into the mesh. Try using this to clean it up
Post by: firestorm2yk on September 03, 2006, 09:06:00 AM
Now, can someone quickly answer a question for me? Now that i have successfully modded the MS28 TS with xtreme 3.0, do i still have to use the VCC switch or will the drive now flash normally like an MS25 when i want to upgrade?
Sorry if it's a stupid question...
Post by: neomaximus2k on September 03, 2006, 12:31:00 PM
QUOTE(neomaximus2k @ Sep 3 2006, 06:47 AM)
Well I was gonna try this today but just realised i have no torq screws (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) will have to wait till tomorrow then
Update, managed to get the 360 apart and connected up to the pc and what did i get
"No drives found" damn thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) however i also noticed that the drive wasn't found in the SATA device search, i am guessing it has to show the drive in the bios in order for this to work.
Post by: neomaximus2k on September 04, 2006, 12:59:00 PM
Post by: ash1471 on September 04, 2006, 01:13:00 PM
QUOTE(neomaximus2k @ Sep 4 2006, 07:30 PM)
Well now i am getting peed off, it still is not working, i got it to start reading but then the 360 switched itself off and now still same problem, after i select the correct connection it simply sits there how on earth have you guys done this i have spent all day doing this and still no joy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
It started reading and then swiched off?????................ This only happens when the video lead is not connected to the 360.
Post by: neomaximus2k on September 04, 2006, 11:37:00 PM
QUOTE(ash1471 @ Sep 4 2006, 07:44 PM)
It started reading and then swiched off?????................ This only happens when the video lead is not connected to the 360.
yeah i managed to figure that one out. for the record where people say count to 10 slowly i found that a major understatement, i had to leave it sitting for for 30 seconds to a min before it would recognize it, but even tho it read, patched and wrote still wont play the backups so more playing is involved
Post by: gozunz on September 05, 2006, 01:32:00 AM
Post by: neomaximus2k on September 05, 2006, 04:58:00 AM
QUOTE(gozunz @ Sep 5 2006, 08:03 AM)
Worked perfectly with the via pci card i got. Thanks so much guys. I didnt even have to wait 10 seconds. I did how ever have to leave my onboard sata enabled. Bizaro. Anyhow. Perfect A+++!
ahhhh i had to wait like a whole minute and you didnt have to wait
*stabs your VIA PCI card in a fit of 360 enhanced rage*
muwhahahahahahahaa
Post by: angry_rabbit on September 05, 2006, 05:03:00 AM
http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?topic=3510.0
Post by: xbox360freakkk on September 05, 2006, 08:03:00 AM
i've an question about Ms28 and R409.
I've flashed 3 xbox360's with ms28 on it with the VCC trick and remove the R408.
I've removed R409 too because of an mistake and cann't find it.
The R408 is o OHM, but the R09 i donn't know howmany OHM it is.
Do you know howmany OHM the R409 is??
I hope you can help me with this.
Thanks
Post by: Aegean on September 06, 2006, 11:32:00 AM
first my config: Asus A8n-sli Deluxe
everything disconected except pioneer 111d dvd-r and nec 4550a on slave ATA
samsung at sata-1 master
boot up with usb flash with the switch off (or wires not conected) on xboxdrive
mtkflash r /sata /m orig.bin and enter
>1.ata master
>2.ata slave
>3.nforcesata3 (don't remeber exactly)
>4.nforcesata4
now i switch on/cross the wires on the xboxdvd and press 3 and it works (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) for me at least
after that i think it's easy what to do.
Well that's my story, hope it helps for someone
P.S. sorry for my english
Post by: faiyaz62 on September 06, 2006, 09:27:00 PM
QUOTE(gozunz @ Sep 5 2006, 08:03 AM)
Worked perfectly with the via pci card i got. Thanks so much guys. I didnt even have to wait 10 seconds. I did how ever have to leave my onboard sata enabled. Bizaro. Anyhow. Perfect A+++!
Hey what pci card are you using? Where did you buy from?
Thanks
Post by: Textbook on September 06, 2006, 11:09:00 PM
QUOTE
(00:31:15) Textbook: http://www.outletpc.com/c5533.html
(00:31:15) Textbook: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16815124023
(00:31:15) Textbook: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=A-6421-N&cpc=SCH
(00:31:15) Textbook: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16815124023
(00:31:15) Textbook: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=A-6421-N&cpc=SCH
There you go, buy until the stock runs out just like you did to Newegg, lol. You can also usually find this card on eBay. Remember, you will need a hex-edited MTKFlash and you will have to use the /sata switch in the MTKFlash command while doing bad flash recovery method.
Post by: kingpip on September 07, 2006, 03:47:00 AM
Post by: biggsy on September 07, 2006, 06:54:00 AM
My motherboard refuses to boot with the second switch open, so i boot up using USB memory stick with both switches turned on. I then start mtkflash and when it asks for which channel i turn both switches off, i then turn the power back on to the connectivity kit, then i flick the other switch on and select ICH5 straight away, cross my fingers and with a little bit of luck away it goes!! - this has taken lots of perserverance to work out but mounting the switches with the connectivity kit has made it a whole lot easier. Good luck hope this helps
Post by: matahor on September 07, 2006, 07:39:00 AM
I have a may2006 fw ms28 xbox.
I tried with a motherboard asusP5ND2 with nforce4 chipset, i can see the xbox dvd in bios but mtkflash says no drive, i bought then a conceptronic via6421 card if i connect only xbox dvd it stops for a min in via utility raid and says no drive, if i connect an old acer dvd all goes well, but in mtkflash i got no message about what drive to flash, just says somethinglike 8800 master/slave and stops there, i tried then turn off xbox and then power, turn off before mtkflash and then power, etc, and i only got once the option to choose drive, primary and secondary, i still dont know how, because i couldnt repeat it, and tried with both the 10 secs power off trick, but didnt work it says something about master/slave, but didnt read anything.
What i am doing wrong?, should i try vcc? and if i do it, bios will see the dvd with the via or the nforce4?, and why via card dont see the xbox dvd?
Please someone help me before i go crazy.
Post by: mr_merrick on September 15, 2006, 08:41:00 AM
This post has been edited by mr_merrick: Sep 15 2006, 03:43 PM
Post by: SvensK on September 16, 2006, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Exobex @ Aug 14 2006, 10:28 PM)
Try this:-
Boot with power connected, wires disconnected, SATA disconnected
When ready to read firmware, connect SATA, connect wires, read
Use your favourite method of copying the drive key (X360SAM, hexedit, etc.)
Shut down, disconnect wires, disconnect SATA
Boot with power connected, wires disconnected, SATA disconnected
When ready to write firmware, connect SATA, connect wires, write
Great stuff Exobex. Worked perfectly with my Samsung drive MS28 dated May 2006.
Post by: Smok3y666 on September 21, 2006, 11:01:00 AM
To read firmware:
Make boot disk and copy everything needed to it
Connect 360 to PC turn on and then turn on PC
Wait for floppy to load up
Type in mtkflash r backup.bin and press enter
DO NOT press anything but power down cosole
Press key for VIA8237
Wait 10 secs or more
Turn on 360
To flash:
Edit as usual
Connect 360 to PC turn on and then turn on PC
Wait for floppy to load up
Type in mtkflash w backup.bin and press enter
DO NOT press anything but power down cosole
Press key for VIA8237
Wait 10 secs or more
Turn on 360
Just my 2p. Worked for me after reading the first 4-5 pages and having no luck.
Post by: majik655 on September 23, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
My setup and it goes with the person who started this thread!
Asus p4p800se on board ICH5 chipset!!
In the long run after sooooo many trial and errors I actually disconnected ALL drive except floppy from pc.
With this board and setup the drive MUST be seen by the bios before proceeding... for this to happen with the vcc trick the wires MUST be connected first!!!
if the wires are not connected the drive is not seen in bios and for me durring this process it would not work unless that happened.
the pc CANNOT be turned on first! the xbox MUST be turned on first then the PC
otherwise bios just sits there trying to see the drive.
With me the drives center led constantly blinks when wires are disconnected. some people say theirs does not blink when disconnected .. I dunno but mine does! or did that is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
ok here we go. the time in this is critical!! also the steps you take are also critical they must be followed to the t for this motherboard setup. at least it was with me.
I know this is sounding familiar to alot of you!
I also installed a switch on the wires because it makes the process much easier to deal with also less likely to short out on the case if you make the wires long enough for that not to happen.!!! this will hurt you drive if you short one of those wires.
1. wires must be connected on dvd drive.. sata connected power connected.
2. turn on xbox...
3. turn on pc... with mtkflash (no need for editing mtkflash for this chipset!!) on floppy (for me anyway)
4. bios sees drive when wires connected!
5. computer is now at dos prompt
6. before anything else turn xbox OFF NOT PC leave that alone.
7. disconnect wires (switch open)
8. type mtkflash r /m ms28.bin DO NOT HIT ENTER YET!
9. this is the critical timing thing. for this board or me it was 2.0 - 3.5 seconds and thats about it!!
probably closer to 2.0 seconds ...2.2 whatever you will see it seems to be that picky for sure!!!
10. now you are ready... turn on xbox... then 2.5 seconds later press enter on keyboard.
11. IF timed correctly mtkflash will ask for which number .. master/slave etc..etc.
IF mtkflash says drive not found.. you did not time it correctly.. period! yes my center led is flashing this whole time. try try try try a million times again you will get it... no longer than 4 seconds for sure.. no faster than 2 I would say.
11.5 - if it says drive not found.. just turn off xbox... leaving wires disconnected..
type in mtkflash r /m ms28.bin do not hit enter!! turn on xbox 2.2-3.5 seconds press enter on pc
again drive not found repeat this process until it is.
12. IF you ever time it right and get it to the part where mtkflash says 1, 2, etc etc..
CONNECT WIRES NOW... then press corresponding number for your drive!!
you should see it start reading!!
DONE! and yes it loops like 4 times to 100% leave it be. until finished.
I heard of people or one person stating his froze while reading .. I would say maybe it was his floppy drive or floppy disk itself. make sure there is enough room on it.. and try it again.
I used toolbox 1.0 to get the key ... flash a MS25 drive with this key and put it on the ms28 motherboard worked great!
hope this helps someone.
This post has been edited by majik655: Sep 23 2006, 10:36 PM
Post by: foaley77 on September 24, 2006, 02:01:00 AM
Post by: angry_rabbit on September 24, 2006, 03:00:00 AM
Post by: Phunt on September 27, 2006, 06:49:00 PM
QUOTE(hcrip @ Jul 29 2006, 04:04 PM)
Redline at XBH showed me this last week. There is another method to try, which doesn't involve any soldering...
Basically, just go about flashing your samsung like normal. When you get to the part where it asks to press 1 or 2 for Master or Slave (just before you flashthe drive), turn off your 360. After it powers down, press the correct channel button. On screen, it will look just like a normaly flash, but it will be in pause mode, waiting for a response from the Sammy drive. After having the system turned off for about 10 seconds, turn it back on. Now that the drive is on, it should flash immediately. This is also known as the Flash Recovery for Sammies. If this doesn't work, then try the VCC trick. This is nicer and safer for those people who aren't skilled with soldering techniques.
Ive just flashed the ms28 i got as a replacement today using the above meathod no problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) thanx hcrip
Post by: phluphlu on September 28, 2006, 12:33:00 PM
My setup: Onboard sata via 8237, lite on dvd-rw on secondary ide master. All other IDEs disabled.
My steps:
1. Boot pc into dos
2. Turn on 360 3. Entered mtkflash r /m /sata orig.bin 4. Turn off 360 at prompt. 5. Turned off 360 and immediately selected channel 6. Counted to 10 : 1 one thousand, 2 one thousand... 10. 7. Turned on 360 and you chould immediately hear the floppy drive activate and write. Thanks again everyone!!!
Post by: X-Staff on September 28, 2006, 04:32:00 PM
When you have done your VCC / Bad Flash tricks to be able to read / write - this patch apparently lets you flash the MS28 with no further tricks in future (acts like an MS25)
i dont have an MS28 in my workshop tonight to test
QUOTE
Add this patch to c4eva extreme ms28. This will permit access to flash chip by mtkflash as in ms 20 & ms25 f/w versions.
Do this at your risk!!!!
change byte in ms28 f/w @ 0D4C5'h from 0E4'h -> 00'h
Please post any results as I cannot test this out as my 943 does not work as a rom anymore.
Thanx in advance - Jumba
Do this at your risk!!!!
change byte in ms28 f/w @ 0D4C5'h from 0E4'h -> 00'h
Please post any results as I cannot test this out as my 943 does not work as a rom anymore.
Thanx in advance - Jumba
Post by: evilgizmo on September 30, 2006, 08:24:00 PM
I lifted the pink trace on the diagram .Is there any alterate ways to fix this?
Post by: BIGJLEARY on September 30, 2006, 11:48:00 PM
What the heck does this mean? When i put in the original it plays no problem, it's just the backup that won't play.
Please help.
Post by: Alkane on October 01, 2006, 12:49:00 AM
I was putting together some premods, during which I was using the wire trick on this sammy ms28.
Anyways, I slipped and the wire hit the heatsink and I heard a pop. Now the eject light blinks, wither the SATA cable is connect or not.
I assume the unbridging of the resistor is connected to the firmware chip itself and its fried?
or is it a component of the DVD-ROM drive that's fried and I can salvage the firmware chip to get the key? Even better do you think its another component on the board that was fried that I can replace?
Thanks for helping an idiot ; p
Post by: evilgizmo on October 01, 2006, 04:58:00 PM
Post by: Alkane on October 01, 2006, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(evilgizmo @ Oct 1 2006, 06:29 PM)
any help on my lifted trace question?
Can you post a picture?
Post by: evilgizmo on October 01, 2006, 06:19:00 PM
Post by: s0n- on October 15, 2006, 04:04:00 PM
QUOTE(s0n- @ Oct 15 2006, 06:47 PM)
Alright so I connected the wire of the blue to the trace as I messed up the other two points but am still haing trouble doing the VCC method and the Autorecovery Method.
The Auto recovery Method I Have done as follows.
Turn ON PC and Boot to USB drive
At command Prompt turn on 360
mtkflash r /sata orig.bin & mtkflash r orig.bin (I have tried Both)
Detected 3 Drives fine, IDE, ICH5 Master and Slave ( I have Also tried with CDrom out)
Turned off 360, Hit 2 for ICH5 Master, I have also tried Slave
Waited Ten Seconds and Turn on 360 Again
It hangs at
Port ec00 master/Slave a0 and looks like its waiting
Now with the VCC method
I leave the wires unattached and boot up, it takes a while but finally boots in, but when I typew in
mtkflash r /sata orig.bin
it hangs ans says port 170 and some other error, doesnt even read the Drives.
If i leave the wires connected however it will boot and detect fine but basically does the same above.
I have also tried the opposite way where I hook the wires and unhok them before the flash, no go.
I beleive I have the intel chipset, and I BELEIVE my mtkflash should work with this correct? If its detecing the drives it should work in a normal non ms28 situation correct?
Anyone have any any ideas?
ALRIGHT, So i beleive I figured out the problem after going through this thread with a fine tooth comb. With my pioneer drive hooked up or disconected it was a no go no matter what I did. I Now hooked up an acer cdrom drive to the IDE channel and I immediatly started to get better results. It was freezing at zero as opposed to just halting. After some timing issues, it worked perfectly fine. So if you are not having any luck what so ever try and grab old cdrom or dvdrom and hook it up.
Post by: s0n- on October 15, 2006, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: bigballs5 on October 16, 2006, 03:22:00 PM
Post by: slummarine on October 18, 2006, 08:19:00 AM
QUOTE(bigballs5 @ Oct 16 2006, 10:29 PM)
Post by: Doubleagent on October 22, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
Ill like to get sure where to put the wiring
There is 2 blue markings (a dot like the red and a square) in the photo, dos the wire go to both ??
Post by: Tribb on October 24, 2006, 01:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Doubleagent @ Oct 22 2006, 07:43 PM)
Hallo before I start soldering
Ill like to get sure where to put the wiring
There is 2 blue markings (a dot like the red and a square) in the photo, dos the wire go to both ??
Then you must connect a wire to either blue point and a wire
to the red point.
Post by: Doubleagent on October 24, 2006, 08:59:00 AM
Post by: kingpickle on October 24, 2006, 09:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Tribb @ Oct 24 2006, 03:44 AM)
Then you must connect a wire to either blue point and a wire
to the red point.
Silly me, I connected 2 wires to blue (wrapped them together) and 1 wire to red. Thought both blues needed to be connected together
. Now I can just lift the resistor from the blue side and connect to it as red. Thanks
Post by: CaZpeR on October 26, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
I managed to flash my drive perfectly to version 3.3. But now it won't work anymore. I have not connected the xbox to the internet. Any ideas why it won't work anymore?
Post by: barge on October 27, 2006, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: vitovito on October 28, 2006, 01:44:00 PM
i'm trying to read an ms28 using x360sam0.4
i've got a good sata card and i can get the program to hit 70 or 72 whichever it is when i select my sata master
however as soon as i type in samread xxxxxxx xxxxx i get three messages saying that the program
cannot open/create the xxxxxxx xxxxx folder
in otherwords, the programs does everything fine but cannot create a folder to put by backed up firmware in
as soon as this is sorted the program should run fine
i am however using a dos cd, with samread running from my c drive
any surgestions anybody
cheers
Post by: Dexter Harvey on October 28, 2006, 03:28:00 PM
QUOTE(vitovito @ Oct 28 2006, 03:51 PM)
ok this is my first post so bare with me!
i'm trying to read an ms28 using x360sam0.4
i've got a good sata card and i can get the program to hit 70 or 72 whichever it is when i select my sata master
however as soon as i type in samread xxxxxxx xxxxx i get three messages saying that the program
cannot open/create the xxxxxxx xxxxx folder
in otherwords, the programs does everything fine but cannot create a folder to put by backed up firmware in
as soon as this is sorted the program should run fine
i am however using a dos cd, with samread running from my c drive
any surgestions anybody
cheers
Hacking xbox360 firmware on Toshiba/Samsung TSH943
-------------------------------------------------------------
VIA VT 6421L PCI SATA Card latest drivers download
http://www.viaarena...._raid_v530c.zip
Use Xtreme Boot Maker 3.5.
Xtreme Boot Maker is a simple program that will prepare a floppy or USB drive
for use with X360SAM.
- Auto-detects your SATA/RAID controller and hex-edits MTKFlash (if needed)
for your chipset.
- Formats your floppy/usb drive and copies all necessary files over.
- Uses X360SAM 0.4.
- MD5 checker when selecting your firmware lets you know your firmware is legit
- Updateable Firmware definitions.
- Renames the firmware you load to xtreme.bin, uses custom .bat files.
- Will work with all existing Xtreme fw's and future releases. (I Hope)
- Can be used with NTFS cd's, creates a folder on your hdd.
Fixed/Added:
------------
- Added: Option for MS28 Bad Flash Recovery
- Added: Option to apply Boke's MS28 single device hack
Xtreme Boot Maker v0.3.5
Choose hack firmware that you will flash the drive with
choose custom MTKFlash pick your SATA controller, and
hit Detect ID I/O.
check both boxes for the
MS28 Bad Flash method
Boke's Hexedit.
format and make bootable usb or floppy.
Make sure you connect your xbox 360 sata connection to
the sata port on the via sata card the port towards
your harddrive or toward the front of your case.
Connect a PC CD or DVD drive on the VIA Sata card IDE channel
(must use MTK chipset - most do - NOT Pioneer - all Liteons work)
you must a have media tek optical drive connected
to the SATA cards IDE port for ms28 bad flash
you have to plug a mtk based dvd drive into the
ide port on the sata card.
Boot into DOS with xbox 360 off,
when at command prompt,
turn on 360, type SAMREAD 1234567 12345 (using your
Xbox 360 serial number found on the back of the case near the A/V port).
To follow this through you will need the following...
Extreme boot maker 3.5
Hacked upto date Extreme firmware bin file.
A pc with SATA controller (or a sata card) Preferably Via.
An xbox360
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MAKING AN EXTREME BOOT DISC
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Extreme boot maker prepares a usb or floppy boot disc specifically matching your Sata chipset.
0. Insert floppy or USB drive into pc
1. Run extreme boot maker
2. open hacked firmware bin file
3. tick "use custom mtkflash"
4. select "via" sata controller from drop down menu
5. click "detect ID"
6. Select USB drive, drive letter
7. tick "format and make bootable disk"
hit prepare.
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With ms28 you MUST use /sata switch in MTKflash
The next section can be missed out with ms25 drives.
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Editing files for flashing ms28 on USB stick prepared with extreme boot maker
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
edit samread
where it says MTkflash r /m
add a space and /sata
save it
edit samhack
where it says MTFlash w /m
add a space and /sata
save it
---------------------------------------------------------------
Reading and Flashing
----------------------------
Unplug xbox360's dvd drive sata cable
Disconnect your pc sata harddisc cable and plug in into the xbox360 dvd drive.
Make sure you have a cable to stop "floating ground" going to both pc and 360 chassis.
The Video cable from 360 plugged into tv and 360 power cable plugged in.
NOTE: The following Sections 7 and 9 can be missed out on a ms25 microsoft flashed Toshiba/Samsung TSH943 drive as you don't need to turn the xbox360 on and off.
The following "bad flash recovery method" only works with via sata chipsets and is specifically for Toshiba/Samsung TSH943 with the original MS28 firmware.
*THE READING*
1. Turn on pc first
2. Boot from usb (or floppy) disc made with extreme boot maker
3. When in Dos switch on xbox360
4. AT PROMPT ENTER samread xxxxxxx xxxxx (xx is your xbox serial number)
5. Hit enter
6. MTKflash will run asking you to select drive *DON'T ENTER ANYTHING*
7. TURN OFF XBOX360
8. Select sata card, hit enter and wait 10 seconds
9. TURN ON XBOX360
10. As soon as you turn it on it will start reading the 360 firmware.
11. With 360 on unplug sata cable from back of it
12. Power off PC and then 360.
*THE WRITING OF HACKED FIRMWARE*
0. Plug 360 sata cable back in
1. Turn on pc first
2. Boot from usb (or floppy) disc made with extreme boot maker
3. When in Dos switch on xbox360
4. AT PROMPT ENTER samhack xxxxxxx xxxxx (xx is your xbox serial number)
5. Hit enter
6. MTKflash will run asking you to select drive *DON'T ENTER ANYTHING*
7. TURN OFF XBOX360
8. Select sata card, hit enter and wait 10 seconds
9. TURN ON XBOX360
10. As soon as you turn it on it will start reflashing the 360 firmware.
11. With 360 on unplug sata cable from back of it
12. Power off PC and then 360.
1. Plug xbox360's own sata cable back in.
2. power on xbox360
3. test 360 backup dvd and 360 original dvd
4. put xbox360 back together again.
Post by: bluff on November 04, 2006, 12:53:00 AM
there are 3 parts in circuit
R409
R408
C404
plz tell me
how they are connected to main circuit?
is they are connected to eact other b any connection?
i think i has done mistake while soldering.
Please help me!
Post by: getRAWed on November 11, 2006, 11:22:00 AM
Post by: ben1989 on November 11, 2006, 03:55:00 PM
??
Post by: ownage on November 11, 2006, 06:04:00 PM
QUOTE(ben1989 @ Nov 12 2006, 12:02 AM)
would just shorting the resister work ?leave the resistor in and solder a wire to each side of it lol
??
I don't know if this is exactly what your talking about but you could do this,
http://www.xboxhacke...g27061#msg27061
Post by: Slawterr on November 12, 2006, 12:51:00 AM
Post by: Brickmaster on November 16, 2006, 01:05:00 PM
QUOTE(Realizt @ Aug 20 2006, 01:56 PM)
Okay after many hours, I have successfully completed the flash. All is working too
Here is what I did to get it going.
1. Install the switch or wires on the 408 resistor
2. Turn the xbox and pc off
3. Turn the xbox on with the switch in the ON position (wires connected)
4. Turn the PC on and let it boot to the A:> dos prompt
5. run mtkflash r /m orig.bin (with the switch still on) ... this should come up with the prompt for which channel to choose, if it says drive not detected, turn the xbox off then on again with the switch in ON position and run the command again
6. While waiting at the prompt, turn the xbox off
7. Flick the switch to the OFF position (wires disconnected)
8. Turn the xbox on and then a few seconds later flick the switch back to ON position
9. A couple of seconds after that, choose the correct SATA port (probably 1)
10. Should now start reading the flash, if not try again from step 5
As was stated before, it is VERY tempremental and might take a few attempts
Good luck and let me know if you have any more trouble
PS: When I backed up the firmware, the HEX values between 4000 and 4200 were exactly the same as what was in the xtreme30.bin ... not sure why :/
Says the fw version on the sticker on the top of the drive
Very hard to tell from just serial number. From what I have seen they all seem to be having the ms28 (at least here is Aust as far as I can tell)
The method above worked for me
I've got a VIA card on order but had already tried the soldering method unsucessfully till I saw this way.
Cheers all
Post by: wwallace55 on November 16, 2006, 04:44:00 PM
QUOTE(majik655 @ Sep 23 2006, 09:03 PM)
SUCCESS!! finally jeez!! I now know why people write their own tutorials everytime they flash this MS28 drive!! it feels like you overcame a huge obsiticle!!
My setup and it goes with the person who started this thread!
Asus p4p800se on board ICH5 chipset!!
In the long run after sooooo many trial and errors I actually disconnected ALL drive except floppy from pc.
With this board and setup the drive MUST be seen by the bios before proceeding... for this to happen with the vcc trick the wires MUST be connected first!!!
if the wires are not connected the drive is not seen in bios and for me durring this process it would not work unless that happened.
the pc CANNOT be turned on first! the xbox MUST be turned on first then the PC
otherwise bios just sits there trying to see the drive.
With me the drives center led constantly blinks when wires are disconnected. some people say theirs does not blink when disconnected .. I dunno but mine does! or did that is
ok here we go. the time in this is critical!! also the steps you take are also critical they must be followed to the t for this motherboard setup. at least it was with me.
I know this is sounding familiar to alot of you!
I also installed a switch on the wires because it makes the process much easier to deal with also less likely to short out on the case if you make the wires long enough for that not to happen.!!! this will hurt you drive if you short one of those wires.
1. wires must be connected on dvd drive.. sata connected power connected.
2. turn on xbox...
3. turn on pc... with mtkflash (no need for editing mtkflash for this chipset!!) on floppy (for me anyway)
4. bios sees drive when wires connected!
5. computer is now at dos prompt
6. before anything else turn xbox OFF NOT PC leave that alone.
7. disconnect wires (switch open)
8. type mtkflash r /m ms28.bin DO NOT HIT ENTER YET!
9. this is the critical timing thing. for this board or me it was 2.0 - 3.5 seconds and thats about it!!
probably closer to 2.0 seconds ...2.2 whatever you will see it seems to be that picky for sure!!!
10. now you are ready... turn on xbox... then 2.5 seconds later press enter on keyboard.
11. IF timed correctly mtkflash will ask for which number .. master/slave etc..etc.
IF mtkflash says drive not found.. you did not time it correctly.. period! yes my center led is flashing this whole time. try try try try a million times again you will get it... no longer than 4 seconds for sure.. no faster than 2 I would say.
11.5 - if it says drive not found.. just turn off xbox... leaving wires disconnected..
type in mtkflash r /m ms28.bin do not hit enter!! turn on xbox 2.2-3.5 seconds press enter on pc
again drive not found repeat this process until it is.
12. IF you ever time it right and get it to the part where mtkflash says 1, 2, etc etc..
CONNECT WIRES NOW... then press corresponding number for your drive!!
you should see it start reading!!
DONE! and yes it loops like 4 times to 100% leave it be. until finished.
I heard of people or one person stating his froze while reading .. I would say maybe it was his floppy drive or floppy disk itself. make sure there is enough room on it.. and try it again.
I used toolbox 1.0 to get the key ... flash a MS25 drive with this key and put it on the ms28 motherboard worked great!
hope this helps someone.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents. This specific tutorial worked for me on the A8N-SLI Premium motherboard with the NForce4 chipset. I added a swith to my ms28 drive controller board and it took me about 10 tries to get it working flawlessly. The hardest part is soldering the switch. Good luck to you all.
Post by: toker_000 on November 17, 2006, 08:44:00 AM
QUOTE(wwallace55 @ Nov 17 2006, 01:51 AM)
I just wanted to add my 2 cents. This specific tutorial worked for me on the A8N-SLI Premium motherboard with the NForce4 chipset. I added a swith to my ms28 drive controller board and it took me about 10 tries to get it working flawlessly. The hardest part is soldering the switch. Good luck to you all.
Hello All
I find got my PC (ASUS SLI NForce4) to detect the TSH-943 MS28 FM using Mtkflash. I had to use a SATA PCI Card with VIA 6124A chipset from ebay for £10.
This is what I did
1)Connect XBOX360 DVD Drive to PC via SATA PCI Card
2)Connect power to XBOX360 DVD Drive (I used XBOX360 Power)
3)PC needs at least one CDROM/DVDROM connect to via IDE (I used onboard IDE controller)
4)BOOT to MS DOS with Mtkflash(VIA Modified) - I used a Floppy Disk
5)Type 'MTKFLASH r /SATA ORIG.BIN'
6)Press 'ENTER'
7)It will detect the TSH-943 drive but reading with be stuck at 0%
8)Disconnect the power from your CDROM/DVDROM connected to via IDE channel on PC.
9)Reading the TSH-943 drive will now continue, it loops about 4 times.
10)You now should have orig.bin
Now my problem is that the orig.bin is 512K, twice the size of the xtreme42a.bin 256K. Before I use the key from my orig.bin, can someone confirm the size of orig.bin for TSH-943 MS28.
Thanks
Post by: IntestineMan on November 17, 2006, 10:56:00 AM
I am using a Shuttle XPC and make a bootable flash using Xtreme bootmaker 3.6. I then edited the batch files and added the /sata command (not sure if this was necessary).
When booting, the Shuttle doesn't detect the drive unless the wires are connected. Once I was able to get it to boot, with PC still on, I powered down xbox, disconnected wires and powered up again. I would then connect wires, run the samread.bat and if I did not get a selection menu, I would press ctrl-c and repeat the xbox power cycling procedure. If, after a few tries, it did not work, I would power everything down and try it all over again. After a few attempts I got it to read. To flash I did the same thing, but used samhack instead and it worked.
Post by: AngelisIIDX on November 17, 2006, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: Toni2204 on November 18, 2006, 07:23:00 AM
today I get my XB from Amazon.
In it was the MS28
When soldering off the R408, I pushed to hard so one point demolished.
I cant solder anymore a wire on it.
Is there any alternative soldering Point.
I got an asus board with nforce4 sata.
Which Method do you now prefer for flashing the drive.
Is now a method without soldering availible.
Please help me.
Sorry for my bad english, im from germany.
bye
Post by: toker_000 on November 18, 2006, 09:21:00 AM
I have a SATA PCI CARD VIA 6421A
I have followed the SAM360 guide to the T and still no luck. Either is get stuck at 0% or my ORIG.BIN is 512K when its complete.
Damn I hate this, help please, thanks.
Post by: thrilla on November 18, 2006, 12:03:00 PM
Post by: toker_000 on November 18, 2006, 01:52:00 PM
QUOTE(thrilla @ Nov 18 2006, 08:34 PM)
Is it possiable to do this without any soldering? I mean just take a piece of wire and short the two points together long enough to flash the drive?
Yep
I just flashed by DVD MS28 with Xtreme 4.2A using a VIA 2641A PCI CARD ($10 from Ebay)
I used Xtreme bootmaker and SAM360
1) First disconnect everything IDE and SATA from your PC
2) Connect XBOXDVD drive to the SATA1 (PRIMARY), on the PCI CARD thats connector on the side of the PCI, it is facing the front of the PC.
3) Power on PC and boot using Floppy / USB Disk made for Xtreme bootmaker
4) Power on XBOX360
5) Type 'SAMREAD XXXXXXX XXXXX' (where x is your serial number) and press 'ENTER'
6) A menu appears, Select the channel of the XBOX and power off XBOX360
7) Awaiting 10 sec
8) Power on XBOX360
9) Read firmware its loops 3-4 times before the process completes
10) Poweroff for XBOX
11) Type 'SAMHACK XXXXXXX XXXXX' (where x is your serial number) and press 'ENTER' repeat steps 6
- 10
It have tried for many guides and different combination of SATA controllers. Only this has work for me.
Post by: AngelisIIDX on November 19, 2006, 02:46:00 PM
I just tried this methiod with the sodering. BE VARY CAREFUL. I am skilled in doing these kind of things and you can fuck up for system vary easily. I did it just fine but my friend tried doing this (when he should of brought it me) and now hes getting error code 64.
Post by: thrilla on November 22, 2006, 08:54:00 AM
QUOTE(toker_000 @ Nov 18 2006, 03:59 PM)
Yep
I just flashed by DVD MS28 with Xtreme 4.2A using a VIA 2641A PCI CARD ($10 from Ebay)
I used Xtreme bootmaker and SAM360
1) First disconnect everything IDE and SATA from your PC
2) Connect XBOXDVD drive to the SATA1 (PRIMARY), on the PCI CARD thats connector on the side of the PCI, it is facing the front of the PC.
3) Power on PC and boot using Floppy / USB Disk made for Xtreme bootmaker
4) Power on XBOX360
5) Type 'SAMREAD XXXXXXX XXXXX' (where x is your serial number) and press 'ENTER'
6) A menu appears, Select the channel of the XBOX and power off XBOX360
7) Awaiting 10 sec
8) Power on XBOX360
9) Read firmware its loops 3-4 times before the process completes
10) Poweroff for XBOX
11) Type 'SAMHACK XXXXXXX XXXXX' (where x is your serial number) and press 'ENTER' repeat steps 6
- 10
It have tried for many guides and different combination of SATA controllers. Only this has work for me.
This method worked for me as well but my orignal xbox backups do not work in the 360 drive with hacked firmware. The process for backing up a orignal 360 game looks to be a royal pain since you have to remove the cover of a dvd-rom drive, I will definately NOT be attempting that and possiably ruining a perfectly good drive. Can you use the xbox 360 dvd-rom drive to read the discs? If so, a link to a tutorial would be very much appreciated! Thanks for the easiest mod I have ever done to a console. The steps listed above worked perfectly without disabling anything in the bios or unplugging any cables.
Post by: bergkampf on November 25, 2006, 02:30:00 PM
Thx in advance
Post by: xboxexpert on November 25, 2006, 03:34:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=563397
Post by: pippuzzo75 on November 25, 2006, 06:35:00 PM
I'm trying to flash my ms28 that is connected to sata via xeno kit.I have created e bootable pendrive with extreme bootmaker and firmware 42b;i am using vcc trick turning on pc with wires disconnected but in this case
bios doesn't recognize the drive,then i reconnect wires and edit "mtkflash r /m orig.bin" but no drive is detected!
if I boot with wires connected, bios fully recognizes the drive end if I edit again "mtkflash r /m orig.bin" it finds :- primary master extreme
- primary slave extreme
Please help me becouse i am a newbie and I have my xbox360 disassembled and not working.
Thanks in advance!
Post by: majik655 on November 25, 2006, 08:14:00 PM
QUOTE(pippuzzo75 @ Nov 25 2006, 05:06 PM)
I absolutely need help!
I'm trying to flash my ms28 that is connected to sata via xeno kit.I have created e bootable pendrive with extreme bootmaker and firmware 42b;i am using vcc trick turning on pc with wires disconnected but in this case
bios doesn't recognize the drive,then i reconnect wires and edit "mtkflash r /m orig.bin" but no drive is detected!
if I boot with wires connected, bios fully recognizes the drive end if I edit again "mtkflash r /m orig.bin" it finds :- primary master extreme
- primary slave extreme
Please help me becouse i am a newbie and I have my xbox360 disassembled and not working.
Thanks in advance!
You can follow this...
Link to tutorial
you are doing it right.. you are just forgetting a couple of steps.
Post by: pippuzzo75 on November 25, 2006, 09:50:00 PM
Believe me...I am really getting crazy...
Post by: Textbook on November 25, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
QUOTE(pippuzzo75 @ Nov 25 2006, 11:21 PM)
Unfortunately I have one more problem: i have lost the original firmware of ms28,and the new one is wrong.Is there any way to restore it?
Believe me...I am really getting crazy...
No, and you can't even just buy a new drive and put it in without the drive key.
Post by: majik655 on November 25, 2006, 09:28:00 PM
QUOTE(pippuzzo75 @ Nov 25 2006, 08:21 PM)
Unfortunately I have one more problem: i have lost the original firmware of ms28,and the new one is wrong.Is there any way to restore it?
Believe me...I am really getting crazy...
well really the MOST important thing you need is your dvd key.
if your drive does not work ..and you do not have a copy of this key or the original.bin to get the key..then you are screwed ... sell the box for parts if you can.
if you flashed the drive... then you SHOULD have the dvd key.. OR at least the file of the hacked firmware you tried to flash with.. that should hold the dvd key.
IF YOU GET THIS KEY no matter where you get it from.. and it is CORRECT.. Then you will have to find a image of the original ms28 firmware from SOMEWHERE.. and no the "usuall places" will not have it because I believe that would be illegal?? anyway this is what you would have to do.
or send the drive to someone who can remove the chip and reflash it externally is another option. You would still have to be able to have the dvd key somewhere. (if located on the chip currently.. the person reflashing externally could get it)
Post by: pippuzzo75 on November 25, 2006, 10:29:00 PM
Post by: Paut on November 26, 2006, 02:11:00 PM
I've read about all there is in that thread and in forums all around about the xbox 360 and I got a thing to ask.
I bought a VIA 6421L PCI card and installed it in on the board. The thing is that when I boot Windows cannot seem to detect it and no install process is being required.
I have a P5GDC-V Deluxe board with the ITE onboard chipset and Windows XP Pro SP2. Can someone tell me if my card is simply dead or if it is because of my system.
Thanks for your time guys!
Post by: Textbook on November 26, 2006, 09:37:00 PM
Post by: Paut on November 28, 2006, 01:08:00 AM
My 360 drive has the MS28 firmware and is a July build. Can anyone light my lantern here?
Thanks for your time guys!
Post by: Brickmaster on December 02, 2006, 02:21:00 PM
Post by: Kurd on December 25, 2006, 04:39:00 PM
QUOTE(switch176 @ Oct 29 2006, 11:26 PM)
1. wires must be connected on dvd drive.. sata connected power connected.
2. turn on xbox...
3. turn on pc... with mtkflash (no need for editing mtkflash for this chipset!!) on floppy (for me anyway)
4. bios sees drive when wires connected!
5. computer is now at dos prompt
6. before anything else turn xbox OFF NOT PC leave that alone.
7. disconnect wires (switch open)
8. type mtkflash r /m ms28.bin DO NOT HIT ENTER YET!
9. this is the critical timing thing. for this board or me it was 2.0 - 3.5 seconds and thats about it!!
probably closer to 2.0 seconds ...2.2 whatever you will see it seems to be that picky for sure!!!
10. now you are ready... turn on xbox... then 2.5 seconds later press enter on keyboard.
Reading works.
But how should i flash?
can i flash direktly after reading (with the hacked Key). Or Must i reboot the Xbox and do the same way again?
Post by: ShMaCk2004 on December 26, 2006, 04:18:00 AM
Post by: Doctaspawk on December 27, 2006, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: Daddy0 on January 08, 2007, 02:02:00 AM
CODE
if "%1" == "" goto usage
if "%2" == "" goto usage
x360sam BACKUPS\%1\%2\ORIG.BIN SAMSUNG\XTREME.BIN BACKUPS\%1\%2\HACKED.BIN
if errorlevel 1 goto end
echo.
echo Now unplug the SATA cable and power-cycle the PC & DVD drive before running
echo SAMHACK.BAT %1 %2
goto end
:usage
echo Usage: %0 7-digit serial 5-digit serial
echo e.g. %0 1234567 61005
echo This will create a folder for that particular Xbox 360, read the original
echo firmware (as ORIG.BIN) and create a modified firmware (as HACKED.BIN).
echo If ORIG.BIN for that Xbox 360 already exists THE PROCESS IS ABORTED!
:End
keycheck.exe BACKUPS\%1\%2\ORIG.BIN BACKUPS\%1\%2\HACKED.BIN
if "%2" == "" goto usage
x360sam BACKUPS\%1\%2\ORIG.BIN SAMSUNG\XTREME.BIN BACKUPS\%1\%2\HACKED.BIN
if errorlevel 1 goto end
echo.
echo Now unplug the SATA cable and power-cycle the PC & DVD drive before running
echo SAMHACK.BAT %1 %2
goto end
:usage
echo Usage: %0 7-digit serial 5-digit serial
echo e.g. %0 1234567 61005
echo This will create a folder for that particular Xbox 360, read the original
echo firmware (as ORIG.BIN) and create a modified firmware (as HACKED.BIN).
echo If ORIG.BIN for that Xbox 360 already exists THE PROCESS IS ABORTED!
:End
keycheck.exe BACKUPS\%1\%2\ORIG.BIN BACKUPS\%1\%2\HACKED.BIN
4. Open xbox as per manual and remove power face plate so you can easily turn the Xbox on and off.
5. Connect Xbox to power and TV.
6. Connect SATA (internal) connection from PCI card to Xbox.
7. Disconnect all other drives (hard drives, cd drives) IDE cables i PC.
8. When you get a dos prompt type "mtkflash r /m /sata backups\1234567\12345\orig.bin". Dont press enter!
9. Press enter and turn on the xbox at the same time!
10. At port selection menu switch off xbox.
11. Select the port and wait ten seconds. Power on xbox and the firmware should be read.
12. When finished Unplug sata cable and turn off xbox.
13. At command prompt type "SAMREAD 1234567 12345" press enter and wait for the firmware to be patched.
14. Reboot PC with floppy drive.
15. At command prompt type "mtkflash w /m /sata backups\1234567\12345\hacked.bin" Dont press enter!
16. Press enter and turn on the xbox at the same time!
17. At port selection menu switch off xbox.
18. Select the port and wait ten seconds. Power on xbox and the firmware should be written.
19. Disconnect from PC and rebuild xbox.
20. Make lots of copies of the file orig.bin found on the floppy in the folder backups/1234567/12345/
This may seem long winded but it was the method that worked for me!
Good Luck!!
Post by: Matric on January 09, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: M4rkusD4rkus on January 24, 2007, 01:48:00 AM
drive but I have the samsung with the ms28 f/w and I wanted to know if it was possible to install the
firmware without messing around with soldering irons cuz i dont want it to break. I purchased a connectivity kit from a pc shop i know so will this enable me to do it without no hassle because I read on the one reply
that if you have the ms28 f/w you have to do it the soldering way. So can some kind soul give me some
much needed infomation? Please reply, thanks
Post by: Komakid on January 24, 2007, 02:12:00 PM
Id have used Wire Trick with an Asus P4C800E-Deluxe (ICH5)
First Attempt...Yeah works...dumped the Original without Probs.
So i were happy...edited the Firmware and get back to DOS for further flashing.
Start the same Way over and than it hangs up at 00%
Have read from one guy who has same Prob but he wrotes his Box is still working, mine...NO it doesnt.
So i have done every step in different ways Up and Down, no luck, try< to get a VIA Controller tomorrow.
Ive done about 40 Sam and Hit Drives since 360 is out, but this MS28 Thing really sucks.
I come to MTKs Menu, i can choose the Portnumber, the ni t starts with 00% but no further going.
One thing lets me think, it writes SST 25VF040 (Serial)
whats that, not the 360 Drive Chip from my point, thikned over and as is see i have had this also the Frist Flash Attempt, but why is the Bios Bad Flashed ?
Get no Error 65 or something else, 360 Drive didnt open and Laser didnt Spin up.
So for today enough for me, hope to get the VIA Controller tomorrow for BAD Flash Recovery without Wire Trick.
If anyone has an Idea whats getting wrong here, please Post.
BTW: have 2 PCs with Same Hardwareconfig, have also tried without additional Drives and so on....
Greets Komakid
Post by: autoprime on February 01, 2007, 11:35:00 AM
had the drive detected... did the samread command... it got up to the point where it says "reading... copying hacked firmware..." this is where it just froze...
i saw the video tutorial and knew it should only take a few seconds or so... so i rebooted and went to the next step like an idiot.
i figured it had copied everything fine.. just not registered(i know.. what kinda thinking is that?!)
so i did the samhack command after reboot... it got to 0% than said error. ok.. i can live with that.. kinda was expecting that.
so i gave up for the night(4am at this point) and went to plug the 360 back into the tv... well with the drive conencted to the 360 i get RED LIGHTS!!!!! just one.. the bottom left corner flashes red. ive yet to fully hook it back up to my TV.. so ive yet to see which error it posts.
so my question to all of you is... since the f/w dump froze at "copying hacked firmware".. is my original firmware safe somewhere?! is orig.bin copied to XBF folder prior to copying hacked firmware?
why exactly am i getting an error? if samhack stopped at 0% due to an error.. is that stopping too late? is this what caused the error?
if my orig.bin isnt recoverable... what are the next steps i should take to maybe hoping to get my drive key? is there a chip i can solder on to bypass this issue?
im usually good with this stuff but the 4am + being impatient were two poor moves on my part
Post by: dibun75 on February 17, 2007, 01:33:00 PM
QUOTE(majik655 @ Sep 23 2006, 10:03 PM)
SUCCESS!! finally jeez!! I now know why people write their own tutorials everytime they flash this MS28 drive!! it feels like you overcame a huge obsiticle!!
My setup and it goes with the person who started this thread!
Asus p4p800se on board ICH5 chipset!!
In the long run after sooooo many trial and errors I actually disconnected ALL drive except floppy from pc.
With this board and setup the drive MUST be seen by the bios before proceeding... for this to happen with the vcc trick the wires MUST be connected first!!!
if the wires are not connected the drive is not seen in bios and for me durring this process it would not work unless that happened.
the pc CANNOT be turned on first! the xbox MUST be turned on first then the PC
otherwise bios just sits there trying to see the drive.
With me the drives center led constantly blinks when wires are disconnected. some people say theirs does not blink when disconnected .. I dunno but mine does! or did that is
ok here we go. the time in this is critical!! also the steps you take are also critical they must be followed to the t for this motherboard setup. at least it was with me.
I know this is sounding familiar to alot of you!
I also installed a switch on the wires because it makes the process much easier to deal with also less likely to short out on the case if you make the wires long enough for that not to happen.!!! this will hurt you drive if you short one of those wires.
1. wires must be connected on dvd drive.. sata connected power connected.
2. turn on xbox...
3. turn on pc... with mtkflash (no need for editing mtkflash for this chipset!!) on floppy (for me anyway)
4. bios sees drive when wires connected!
5. computer is now at dos prompt
6. before anything else turn xbox OFF NOT PC leave that alone.
7. disconnect wires (switch open)
8. type mtkflash r /m ms28.bin DO NOT HIT ENTER YET!
9. this is the critical timing thing. for this board or me it was 2.0 - 3.5 seconds and thats about it!!
probably closer to 2.0 seconds ...2.2 whatever you will see it seems to be that picky for sure!!!
10. now you are ready... turn on xbox... then 2.5 seconds later press enter on keyboard.
11. IF timed correctly mtkflash will ask for which number .. master/slave etc..etc.
IF mtkflash says drive not found.. you did not time it correctly.. period! yes my center led is flashing this whole time. try try try try a million times again you will get it... no longer than 4 seconds for sure.. no faster than 2 I would say.
11.5 - if it says drive not found.. just turn off xbox... leaving wires disconnected..
type in mtkflash r /m ms28.bin do not hit enter!! turn on xbox 2.2-3.5 seconds press enter on pc
again drive not found repeat this process until it is.
12. IF you ever time it right and get it to the part where mtkflash says 1, 2, etc etc..
CONNECT WIRES NOW... then press corresponding number for your drive!!
you should see it start reading!!
DONE! and yes it loops like 4 times to 100% leave it be. until finished.
I heard of people or one person stating his froze while reading .. I would say maybe it was his floppy drive or floppy disk itself. make sure there is enough room on it.. and try it again.
I used toolbox 1.0 to get the key ... flash a MS25 drive with this key and put it on the ms28 motherboard worked great!
hope this helps someone.
If you have use doskey then it is prertty easy with the timing
Post by: cmd19872002 on February 27, 2007, 03:19:00 PM
any way a quick break down of what i did
1st the hardware
Asus K8V = SE delux (worked great for hitichi, but the ms=25 i had to do a bios update)
and ofcourse the ms 28
Since my bios dont like the xbox 360 drives (it hangs while loading) i turn my pc on and wait for the c:\ prompt, then boot the xbox 360.
I booted off a usb flash drive for the x360sam program v 0.6
i did samread 1234 1234 (for easyer to get it started) and hit enter
it listed the drive as it always does when it is powered on (its #3 in my case)
i turn the 360 off, then i got set up to hit 3 on the #pad (with numlock on)
right when i pressed the power button on the 360 i hit enter (about the exact same time, maybe a extreamly little delay, less than 1/10 of a sec). It went right into reading and boom it was done.
Its the same methiod some one else posted but dont remember the name.
I have finally flashed every drive but the hitachi 57 >.< i hope them are ezer lol.
Good Luck flashing every one,
~cmd19872002
Post by: mr2000jp on February 28, 2007, 07:50:00 PM
Post by: CrAzYfAssSst on March 18, 2007, 09:58:00 PM
QUOTE(majik655 @ Sep 23 2006, 05:03 PM)
SUCCESS!! finally jeez!! I now know why people write their own tutorials everytime they flash this MS28 drive!! it feels like you overcame a huge obsiticle!!
My setup and it goes with the person who started this thread!
Asus p4p800se on board ICH5 chipset!!
In the long run after sooooo many trial and errors I actually disconnected ALL drive except floppy from pc.
With this board and setup the drive MUST be seen by the bios before proceeding... for this to happen with the vcc trick the wires MUST be connected first!!!
if the wires are not connected the drive is not seen in bios and for me durring this process it would not work unless that happened.
the pc CANNOT be turned on first! the xbox MUST be turned on first then the PC
otherwise bios just sits there trying to see the drive.
With me the drives center led constantly blinks when wires are disconnected. some people say theirs does not blink when disconnected .. I dunno but mine does! or did that is
ok here we go. the time in this is critical!! also the steps you take are also critical they must be followed to the t for this motherboard setup. at least it was with me.
I know this is sounding familiar to alot of you!
I also installed a switch on the wires because it makes the process much easier to deal with also less likely to short out on the case if you make the wires long enough for that not to happen.!!! this will hurt you drive if you short one of those wires.
1. wires must be connected on dvd drive.. sata connected power connected.
2. turn on xbox...
3. turn on pc... with mtkflash (no need for editing mtkflash for this chipset!!) on floppy (for me anyway)
4. bios sees drive when wires connected!
5. computer is now at dos prompt
6. before anything else turn xbox OFF NOT PC leave that alone.
7. disconnect wires (switch open)
8. type mtkflash r /m ms28.bin DO NOT HIT ENTER YET!
9. this is the critical timing thing. for this board or me it was 2.0 - 3.5 seconds and thats about it!!
probably closer to 2.0 seconds ...2.2 whatever you will see it seems to be that picky for sure!!!
10. now you are ready... turn on xbox... then 2.5 seconds later press enter on keyboard.
11. IF timed correctly mtkflash will ask for which number .. master/slave etc..etc.
IF mtkflash says drive not found.. you did not time it correctly.. period! yes my center led is flashing this whole time. try try try try a million times again you will get it... no longer than 4 seconds for sure.. no faster than 2 I would say.
11.5 - if it says drive not found.. just turn off xbox... leaving wires disconnected..
type in mtkflash r /m ms28.bin do not hit enter!! turn on xbox 2.2-3.5 seconds press enter on pc
again drive not found repeat this process until it is.
12. IF you ever time it right and get it to the part where mtkflash says 1, 2, etc etc..
CONNECT WIRES NOW... then press corresponding number for your drive!!
you should see it start reading!!
DONE! and yes it loops like 4 times to 100% leave it be. until finished.
I heard of people or one person stating his froze while reading .. I would say maybe it was his floppy drive or floppy disk itself. make sure there is enough room on it.. and try it again.
I used toolbox 1.0 to get the key ... flash a MS25 drive with this key and put it on the ms28 motherboard worked great!
hope this helps someone.
majik655 YOU ARE THE MAN!!!
this worked perfectly for me for the ms28 drive
timing was around 2 seconds...
i was trying 10 sec bad flash whatever method and gave up (ECS 865G-M8 mobo with ICH5 sata onboard controller)
i liked this method because i did not have to restart and try again if it did not detect the drive channels (master1/slave2)
now last question... do i leave the 2 soldered wires connected or disconnected to play my games now?
thanks a ton
Post by: psdo on April 04, 2007, 05:39:00 PM
Post by: vopmms on April 12, 2007, 05:14:00 PM
Thank you.
Post by: vopmms on April 13, 2007, 10:46:00 AM
Post by: Tarv on April 28, 2007, 08:02:00 PM
i have an asus p4p800se motherboard with the intel ich5 chipset.
removed resistor, soldered in a switch
powered on the computer with switch off (took a very long time for the computer to boot)
turned the switch on right before running mtkflash, worked first try
also, when putting the drive back in the xbox, i left the switch turned on...
thanks!
Post by: Paperstack.1 on July 21, 2007, 01:00:00 PM
QUOTE(majik655 @ Sep 23 2006, 05:32 PM)
SUCCESS!! finally jeez!! I now know why people write their own tutorials everytime they flash this MS28 drive!! it feels like you overcame a huge obsiticle!!
My setup and it goes with the person who started this thread!
Asus p4p800se on board ICH5 chipset!!
In the long run after sooooo many trial and errors I actually disconnected ALL drive except floppy from pc.
With this board and setup the drive MUST be seen by the bios before proceeding... for this to happen with the vcc trick the wires MUST be connected first!!!
if the wires are not connected the drive is not seen in bios and for me durring this process it would not work unless that happened.
the pc CANNOT be turned on first! the xbox MUST be turned on first then the PC
otherwise bios just sits there trying to see the drive.
With me the drives center led constantly blinks when wires are disconnected. some people say theirs does not blink when disconnected .. I dunno but mine does! or did that is
ok here we go. the time in this is critical!! also the steps you take are also critical they must be followed to the t for this motherboard setup. at least it was with me.
I know this is sounding familiar to alot of you!
I also installed a switch on the wires because it makes the process much easier to deal with also less likely to short out on the case if you make the wires long enough for that not to happen.!!! this will hurt you drive if you short one of those wires.
1. wires must be connected on dvd drive.. sata connected power connected.
2. turn on xbox...
3. turn on pc... with mtkflash (no need for editing mtkflash for this chipset!!) on floppy (for me anyway)
4. bios sees drive when wires connected!
5. computer is now at dos prompt
6. before anything else turn xbox OFF NOT PC leave that alone.
7. disconnect wires (switch open)
8. type mtkflash r /m ms28.bin DO NOT HIT ENTER YET!
9. this is the critical timing thing. for this board or me it was 2.0 - 3.5 seconds and thats about it!!
probably closer to 2.0 seconds ...2.2 whatever you will see it seems to be that picky for sure!!!
10. now you are ready... turn on xbox... then 2.5 seconds later press enter on keyboard.
11. IF timed correctly mtkflash will ask for which number .. master/slave etc..etc.
IF mtkflash says drive not found.. you did not time it correctly.. period! yes my center led is flashing this whole time. try try try try a million times again you will get it... no longer than 4 seconds for sure.. no faster than 2 I would say.
11.5 - if it says drive not found.. just turn off xbox... leaving wires disconnected..
type in mtkflash r /m ms28.bin do not hit enter!! turn on xbox 2.2-3.5 seconds press enter on pc
again drive not found repeat this process until it is.
12. IF you ever time it right and get it to the part where mtkflash says 1, 2, etc etc..
CONNECT WIRES NOW... then press corresponding number for your drive!!
you should see it start reading!!
DONE! and yes it loops like 4 times to 100% leave it be. until finished.
I heard of people or one person stating his froze while reading .. I would say maybe it was his floppy drive or floppy disk itself. make sure there is enough room on it.. and try it again.
I used toolbox 1.0 to get the key ... flash a MS25 drive with this key and put it on the ms28 motherboard worked great!
hope this helps someone.
Yeah yeah, I know this thread is old but i just wanted to post my success about this MS28
I did the VCC method also since I have no patience when it comes to ordering parts online. This method is recommended only if you have good soldering skills, for example installing and removing RAM chips or the TSOP in an Xbox 1.
Anyway, it took me a couple tries with my brother's Intel ICH7 SATA PC, as in reading and remembering what the next step is constantly until I have it down-packed. At the end, I got my ms28 fully flashed with iXtreme 1.2c using an old 512 MB SD card and iPrep.
Now it seems easy to do.
Thanks for the walkthrough majik655
Post by: SciFer on October 28, 2008, 01:25:00 PM
QUOTE(wolfsbaine @ Sep 14 2006, 07:14 AM)
giving it back
a lot of people having a lot of problems with this one, me included.
but i've managed to crack it so thought i might aswell share my experience in the hope it will help someone else out.
1st, my setup, i use a abit NF7-S2G motherboard, i modified mtkflash to work with, team executor connectivity kit, bootable usb drive with Hack360 v3.2 USB software. And, i had to do the vcc mod, remove resistor r408 and replace with 2 wires.
i tried every combination on this thread and couldn't even get it to start to read the original firmware. you name it i tried it, external power supplies, using the 360 etc etc
then i got close. it started to read, but stopped at 0% and hung my pc and after a bit of mucking about i got it working properly ;o)
so heres the low down for my setup.
1. connect drive psu to connectivity kit and kit to sammy pcb. disconnect sata cable (very important) and seperate vcc wires (also very important)
2. switch on pc and allow to boot to dos using usb/floppy
3. connect sata cable to sammy pcb and join vcc wires together, choose option 1 on Hack360 v3.2 USB software, then press c to continue, and it will detect the sata controller and ask you for master or slave. wait, don't touch that keyboard yet
4. seperate the vcc wires, and wait 60 secs, don't know exactly how long u need to wait as a minimum, but i waited a minute, then reconnect the vcc wires, now select master and it reads instantly ;o)
5. when it's complete it asks you to reboot, not sure if you need to, but i did, jump back to step 1 and repeat, but choose option 2 to modify firmware, it patches your own firmware dump and then writes it back.
as a double check, you can do option 3 from main menu, which identifies the firmware on the drive by reading it back and verifying it, and you can do this straight after writing the modified firmware, now need for seperating wires etc.
6. solder a peice of wire or the original resistor if you can find it.
if this helps anyone or if anyone wants the modifed mtkflash that works with my motherboard email me and i'll forward it on. if your in the market for a new motherboard to do xbox360 mods i can fully recommend this board. does hitachis in windows no problem, even works with a usb to sata cable i have aswell, done 4 hitachis without a prob, except the v59 i fragged on tues with birdys buggered flash everything package. and done 3 sammys now, all must admit, this ms28 was a bitch though.
hello,
I'm late to the game but none the less here I am. I have an old TS-H943 ms25 and Abit NF7-S2G motherboard. How did you get the PC to boot from a USB flash drive? I've been trying to search in bios settings and google but you are the closes I've come to.
Any help would be appreciated - Thanks.
Post by: zee1 on August 14, 2009, 09:36:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxto @ Jul 29 2006, 02:49 AM)
This is not my work and is simply passed on as i successfully managed to do this! This is in my own words
however and would like to personally thank the people who made it possible!
I recently found out i had an Toshiba Samsung ms28 and mtkflash has problems reading or flashing these drives with the new revision. Luckily the lads at another well known forum helped out and now i wish to share what i have learned!
Error problem
You'll need to strip the dvd drive open and take the controller out!
You notice the big SST chip and just to the right is the vcc resistors, you must remove the resistor in the
middle as the pic below shows already done. Then you must connect a wire to either blue point and a wire
to the red point. You can purchase a simple on/off switch to make this operation better but is not required!
You can simply put the wire ends together when needed.
After doing this and you now have removed the resistor, attatched wires and maybe an on/off switch
should have something looking like this!
BACKING UP THE KEY AND MS28 FW!
Assuming your sata is detected and everything is working etc Boot into dos, but make sure your wires are
not connected to each other, or if using a switch it is turned off. Go to where your mtkflash is and
type the command as you would usually for the normal method to backup the key but dont hit enter yet!
I.e Mtkflash r /m ms28.bin
Now either join the wires, or turn the switch on! hit enter on the keyboard and you should if done correct
see the ich5 channel or whatever sata port is used. Hit the option for your drive and it should be now
successfully reading the drive and not giving the error as before!
FLASHING YOUR MS28 DRIVE
Word of caution here, KDX will not work with reading and injecting the key out of the file you backup!
You can hexedit the file you backed up and notice from the 4000 mark onwards is a c0 then followed by
your key which is followed by FF's. You can copy and paste the key into the xtreme firmwares you have
already be it the 1.2 or 2.0's and then flash the firmware as normal.
Dont worry about the hex editing! its important to get it correct of cause but your essentially doing the
exact same thing as KDX and copy pasting from the backed up file, to your xtreme.bin etc
Ok so once you have managed to hexedit the key into the xtreme.bin you can now reboot back into dos
making sure the wires were disconnected 1st and ready to redo the flashing stage same way as backing up.
You cannot boot up with the wires already in joined as the sata detection may cause a prob and wont detect it in dos or at the mtkflash stage!
Assuming you have got the wiring still correct and nothing moved out of place, you can now execute the command to flash! i.e mtkflash w /m xtreme.bin
Tools from maplins
1. 12w soldering iron £14.99
2. 30 gauge wire £1.14
3. On/off switch single pass through £1.30
Many thanks and happy to give back if this helps anyone!
enjoy this is confirmed working by me and others!
regards
xboxto
Good one, but it is very hard!!!
Regroupement credits
Post by: Takashi on August 14, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
Post by: alexw1990 on March 20, 2010, 04:55:00 AM
Do i really need to still do it the same way as originally posted or is there a new simpler way???
Thanks