Post by: CancerBoy on June 17, 2006, 02:00:00 PM
1. Turn on xbox 360 with no game inserted.
2. Eject tray at dash.
3. Put backup in tray.
4. Press and hold X in the middle of controller.
5. Select turn off console. Tray will go back in on its own.
6. Wait a few seconds... You can hear the disk spinning.
7. Turn on console with the X in the middle of the controller.
8. Hopefully you can enjoy playing your game.
Not sure why it works but it works and that makes me happy. I like this method because I don't have to do the hd trick or the av reboot, kinda a pain to reach around the back all the time.
Good luck guys
let me know if it works for you or not.
This post has been edited by CancerBoy: Jun 17 2006, 09:05 PM
Post by: KR4ZYMAN on June 17, 2006, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: maddy2005 on June 17, 2006, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: Spark on June 17, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
This post has been edited by Spark: Jun 17 2006, 09:07 PM
Post by: Onetrack on June 17, 2006, 02:08:00 PM
QUOTE(CancerBoy @ Jun 17 2006, 01:07 PM) 
7. Turn on console with the X in the middle of the controller.
8. Hopefully you can enjoy playing your game.
are you booting to dash or booting to game in your settings?
Post by: CancerBoy on June 17, 2006, 02:10:00 PM
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are you booting to dash or booting to game in your settings?
It boots straight to the game when I do it.
Post by: xxSnakeEyesxx on June 17, 2006, 02:44:00 PM
Post by: CancerBoy on June 17, 2006, 03:26:00 PM
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What media and DVD burner are you using?
No offense but that info is at the start of the thread
Post by: The Anarchist on June 17, 2006, 04:08:00 PM
ps i av same drive and media
Post by: Cardy_X on June 17, 2006, 04:18:00 PM
Keep up the great work guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: CancerBoy on June 17, 2006, 04:24:00 PM
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Works for me, so am i right in thinking it maybe something that could be changed in the firmware? If we're kinda thinking that the extra seek time (the fact that the drive is already spinning) is what is enabling it to find the SS part of the disc correctly, could they alter that in firmware?
It does appear to be a timing issue. I believe it could be fixed in the firmware but honestly my knowledge of assembly is very limited, so its just a guess.
Post by: velayo on June 17, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
Post by: liteon6x on June 17, 2006, 05:01:00 PM
when i choose turn off system i dont hear no disc spining
Post by: CancerBoy on June 17, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
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dont work for me i am, using ridata media
when i choose turn off system i dont hear no disc spining
when i choose turn off system i dont hear no disc spining
Odd I definetly hear it spinning but my 360 isn't in a case right now cause I'm painting it.
Post by: KR4ZYMAN on June 17, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
Post by: liteon6x on June 17, 2006, 05:19:00 PM
too
Post by: marlboroa on June 17, 2006, 05:20:00 PM
Post by: ChadH on June 17, 2006, 06:35:00 PM
I have to admit, I haven't tried your method but here's another possibility. Mine didn't work at all when the console was in the vertical position, but works 100% when in the horizontal postition.
I'm using Verbatim media on a Pioneer 109 burner with v1.4 firmware.
Post by: CancerBoy on June 17, 2006, 09:37:00 PM
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Just out of interest, cancerboy, do you have a plug and play charger on a wireless controller plugged in when you do this? Having that plugged in when you switch off leaves a good chunk of the box running still (fans run, etc), so that could be why your disk spins up, and not others.
I have to admit, I haven't tried your method but here's another possibility. Mine didn't work at all when the console was in the vertical position, but works 100% when in the horizontal postition.
I'm using Verbatim media on a Pioneer 109 burner with v1.4 firmware.
I have to admit, I haven't tried your method but here's another possibility. Mine didn't work at all when the console was in the vertical position, but works 100% when in the horizontal postition.
I'm using Verbatim media on a Pioneer 109 burner with v1.4 firmware.
ChadH Yes I do have a plug and play charger plugged in. Good call it seems without it plugged in I have no success. Mines in horizontial position. I've been testing it out so much never even thought that the plug n charge could be a factor. Thanks again it definetly needs to be plugged in. I can't seem to be able to edit my orginal post to add that a plug n charge kit is needed.
Post by: Pacotera on June 17, 2006, 10:42:00 PM
QUOTE(CancerBoy @ Jun 18 2006, 04:44 AM)
ChadH Yes I do have a plug and play charger plugged in. Good call it seems without it plugged in I have no success. Mines in horizontial position. I've been testing it out so much never even thought that the plug n charge could be a factor. Thanks again it definetly needs to be plugged in. I can't seem to be able to edit my orginal post to add that a plug n charge kit is needed.
I dont have a play & charge and it works like a charm.. tested 10 backups with ridata and memorex
so Play & Charge is not a requirement
Post by: CancerBoy on June 17, 2006, 10:58:00 PM
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I dont have a play & charge and it works like a charm.. tested 10 backups with ridata and memorex
so Play & Charge is not a requirement
so Play & Charge is not a requirement
Seems to be for me but its great it works for you without it. I just want everyone to be able to get something to boot. So if it works without great if not try it with the play & charge. You got nothing to loose in trying.
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 17, 2006, 11:05:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 17, 2006, 11:17:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 17, 2006, 11:27:00 PM
Post by: jones2k on June 18, 2006, 06:29:00 AM
No more playing around with the AV switch at the back of the console.
Post by: KR4ZYMAN on June 18, 2006, 07:52:00 AM
Post by: ipzfinest on June 18, 2006, 10:50:00 AM
Jus to clarify tho...
I should be able to use CancerBoy's method straight out the box (stock)!?
Appologies if this is a dumb question, its jus seems rediculessly easy considerin I'v spent the day readin about flashin firmwares & editin hex codes etc...
Replies appreciated in advance as always.
P.s. Keep up the good work guys.
Post by: ipzfinest on June 18, 2006, 11:07:00 AM
Safe tho.
Hi ho, blow dro, its off to flash I go...
Post by: CancerBoy on June 18, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
Post by: mcmanic on June 19, 2006, 08:04:00 AM
Post by: mcmanic on June 19, 2006, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(mcmanic @ Jun 19 2006, 03:11 PM)
this method doesn't work for me (no wireless contoller as mine is wired) - BUT the HDD method of booting works every single time BUT i need another controller (only have 1 controller) so have sent son down the shop to buy wireless and plug&play charger kit - will post back here results.
ok got the plug&play kit and wireless controller, tried it and that also works a treat, so will use this method instead of the HDD
Post by: CancerBoy on June 19, 2006, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: BenoitM on June 19, 2006, 12:55:00 PM
Thanks, now I can play my backup and leave the Nyko intercooler on for those hot summer night !!!
Post by: nuxx on June 19, 2006, 02:18:00 PM
As soon as the console shuts down, just hold the center xbox button until it starts up again
Post by: mcmanic on June 19, 2006, 02:33:00 PM
QUOTE(nuxx @ Jun 19 2006, 09:25 PM)
Only brought a wired controller to work today and want to verify that the soft restart method works with the wired controller as well.
As soon as the console shuts down, just hold the center xbox button until it starts up again
nice for you , but that didn't work for me on my 1 wired controller, had to get the charge&play kit. When i used the wired one after console shut down command from dash the DVD DRive wouldn't spin up when restarting via the X button on controller, but would on the Charge&Play.
This xbox360 is a damm finicky console, what works for one person don't work for the next person, lol, but Hey if we get it to work in the end by one method or another then all is good
Post by: CancerBoy on June 19, 2006, 03:49:00 PM
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This xbox360 is a damm finicky console, what works for one person don't work for the next person, lol, but Hey if we get it to work in the end by one method or another then all is good
I have faith that the firmware hack will improve over time. but for now this method seems to help some, me included. At least it will tie us over till improvements are made.
Post by: fonner on June 19, 2006, 04:56:00 PM
it acts like i just put the disk in a dvd player
Post by: CancerBoy on June 19, 2006, 04:57:00 PM
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Hey guys i have a quick question i flashed fine all of my disk give me a weird video error the say to insert the disk in a 360 to play i have tried all the tricks i am using a hitachi 360 drive and a lite on burner with verbatium
it acts like i just put the disk in a dvd player
it acts like i just put the disk in a dvd player
Sounds like ss.bin wasn't done correctly not really sure though. I've never had that problem
Post by: modchipper on June 19, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
Post by: CancerBoy on June 19, 2006, 08:32:00 PM
Post by: marlboroa on June 19, 2006, 08:33:00 PM
Post by: modchipper on June 19, 2006, 09:08:00 PM
Post by: CancerBoy on June 19, 2006, 09:18:00 PM
Pioneer 1.23 updated from 1.06 both worked fine.
Post by: Pacotera on June 19, 2006, 10:38:00 PM
QUOTE(CancerBoy @ Jun 19 2006, 10:56 PM)
I have faith that the firmware hack will improve over time. but for now this method seems to help some, me included. At least it will tie us over till improvements are made.
C4E already stated that this is not a FW problem... hitachi is picky and thats it... and on XBOXHACKER people already discussed how impossible it would be to add delay to the fw itself... very very unlikely
And for the quadrant boot i tested on 10 hitachis and works on all of them with no play and charge... seems like people are either waiting too long or not at al...
Post by: CancerBoy on June 19, 2006, 11:24:00 PM
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And for the quadrant boot i tested on 10 hitachis and works on all of them with no play and charge... seems like people are either waiting too long or not at al...
Or its possible that certain Hitachi drives might require this as stated before they are picky.
Or another possibility is we don't have the right timing for doing this but if we get it working with a plug n charge kit does it matter?
The only thing that matters is that we get our backups running.
Post by: modchipper on June 20, 2006, 11:13:00 AM
Post by: nekkron99 on June 20, 2006, 02:18:00 PM
Post by: modchipper on June 20, 2006, 03:28:00 PM
Post by: nekkron99 on June 21, 2006, 08:01:00 AM
QUOTE(CancerBoy @ Jun 20 2006, 02:34 PM)
Ok I'm definetly not a hero. Commodore4eva is
Actually, C4E is a God amongst men.
Post by: mack_t on June 21, 2006, 11:39:00 PM
and other tips?
Post by: xVERSACEx on June 23, 2006, 09:18:00 PM
. now im thinking of getting an xbox 360 =)
Post by: tigerk on June 24, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: mack_t on June 24, 2006, 09:19:00 PM
QUOTE(tigerk @ Jun 25 2006, 04:03 AM)
I had created a succesful backup using a verbatim 2.4 DVD+R DL, this required the hdd/hdtv/power off for 20 seconds trick. I then copied that disc to a Great Quality 2.4 DVD+R DL, now I no longer need to do any tricks to get it to boot. I used the latest version of CloneCD to do a disc to disc copy. Maybe the media everyone is using is causing the need for these tricks, just a thought.
wait...you did a straight copy?...as in copy from 1 dvd to another?...i thought that didnt work because of the SS???
Post by: mcmanic on June 25, 2006, 01:14:00 AM
Post by: darkovo on June 25, 2006, 03:14:00 AM
QUOTE(mcmanic @ Jun 25 2006, 08:21 AM)
yeah if your doing a game for a friend who has a Hitachi and cannot rip the game himself (yet) and he wants you to do him a backup of his orginal and you already have a backup of said game then there is no need to re-rip the orginal you can do a direct 1:1 copy on the fly from the backup to save you some time.
Uh-Oh I feel a MODs comments coming along! Naughty Naughty!!
Post by: ChadH on June 25, 2006, 04:16:00 AM
Post by: $@L on June 29, 2006, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: CancerBoy on June 30, 2006, 11:49:00 PM
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DUDE YOU FREAKIN ROCK..DO YOU REALISE YOU JUST SOLVED AROUND 60% OF PEOPLES BOOTING PROBLEMS !!! THANX A MILL.
No problem. I was just frustrated at first when I couldn't get anything to boot so I messed around for 1 night and discovered doing this worked everytime. And of course I had to share it here to help others cause so many ppl have helped me over the years. Its all bout the group effort.
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 03, 2006, 02:43:00 PM
Trick works every time now. Got a new DVD burner, the 111D. You're the man. Much easier than the AV switch trick.
Post by: CancerBoy on July 03, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
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Cancerboy -
Trick works every time now. Got a new DVD burner, the 111D. You're the man. Much easier than the AV switch trick.
Trick works every time now. Got a new DVD burner, the 111D. You're the man. Much easier than the AV switch trick.
Good to hear
Post by: CancerBoy on July 05, 2006, 02:13:00 AM
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what do you mean by "Great Quality ..."?
Is this a brand or do you know where to get those?
Is this a brand or do you know where to get those?
I never said that not sure who did though. I've had luck with fuji films and verbatims brand media. Hope that helps ya
Post by: liteon6x on July 05, 2006, 06:26:00 AM
Post by: ikecomp on July 05, 2006, 07:18:00 AM
Post by: HeLLKiNG on July 05, 2006, 01:36:00 PM
NTSC/J with 47D
thx CancerBoy
Post by: CancerBoy on July 05, 2006, 10:40:00 PM
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worked for me with the p&c pluged in
NTSC/J with 47D
thx CancerBoy biggrin.gif
NTSC/J with 47D
thx CancerBoy biggrin.gif
No problem. Glad it helped.
Post by: erilin on July 05, 2006, 11:06:00 PM
A question? dose it works at "pirat copyies"?
Post by: sav007 on July 06, 2006, 08:03:00 AM
QUOTE(erilin @ Jul 6 2006, 06:13 AM)
hi!
A question? dose it works at "pirat copyies"?
HAhahahaha
HEAT!
Post by: CancerBoy on July 06, 2006, 08:58:00 AM
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hi!
A question? dose it works at "pirat copyies"?
A question? dose it works at "pirat copyies"?
Sorry you can't ask piracy questions here. Read the rules.
Post by: barney_2k on August 10, 2006, 02:49:00 PM
didnt work for me with wireless remote but no PNC kit
I have tried every boot trick in the book and it still wont work
I hate 360s :@
Barney
Post by: Exobex on August 10, 2006, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE(CancerBoy @ Jul 6 2006, 04:05 PM)
Sorry you can't ask piracy questions here. Read the rules.
What, not even in a question with 25% incorrect words and 25% bad spelling?
Post by: WinbonD on August 10, 2006, 07:53:00 PM
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Post by: Nighty7777 on September 29, 2007, 04:58:00 PM
i'm new and a little frustrated! I bought an new xbox360 with an flashed hitachi drive, but my backups don't work. (i don't kno which xtreme firmware i have on it)
this method didn't work, when closing the tray, there was no disc spinning.
can anyone explain the others methods to me, please? Thx!
Post by: Infiniti2 on January 03, 2008, 11:11:00 AM
Is this technique for booting games on a flashed 360 if just putting them in normally dosn't work?
Post by: hartigan on April 21, 2008, 07:06:00 PM
This technique works for me and my Hitachi 0079FK flashed with iextreme 1.4.
I'm just wondering whether I really should need to use this trick.
Shouldn't the flashed 0079FK drive be able to simply recognize the backup discs right off the bat?
Are there other people with iXtreme 1.4 0079FKs out there who have to use this?
Post by: guts118 on August 14, 2008, 02:50:00 PM
this trick worked for me at first but wont any more, however I was using a wired controller to begin with and now have a wireless without plug and charge kit. I havent had chance to try the wired controller again.
ive been reading all of this thread and keep on hearing people refer to the hd trick and av switch trick but dont know what they are. I've searched around but cant find any info. Can anyone help?
cheers
guts
Post by: TheBestXboxModder on August 14, 2008, 02:53:00 PM
Post by: guts118 on August 14, 2008, 03:52:00 PM
cheers
Post by: TheBestXboxModder on August 14, 2008, 05:48:00 PM
And as for the AV thing, I know you have to switch between HD and normal TV for the 360 to stay on and read the games, I saw a thread on it a long time ago...I don't remember.