Post by: Xbox-Scene on June 14, 2006, 08:50:00 PM
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Post by: tomgreen99200 on June 14, 2006, 08:06:00 PM
Post by: Base8 on June 14, 2006, 08:07:00 PM
also, yey first post!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
lol was the first post.
This post has been edited by Base8: Jun 15 2006, 03:08 AM
Post by: sicknasty413 on June 14, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
Post by: GodSin on June 14, 2006, 08:11:00 PM
Currently the OUtfit is one of my fav's ... however this is one small step for man and one big leap for Mod Kind lol
Post by: Textbook on June 14, 2006, 08:12:00 PM
Post by: hbrdXΣr0 on June 14, 2006, 07:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Jun 14 2006, 09:43 PM) 
Very interesting...so if it's a firmware mod why do we need wires? So it's a modchip or what? I'd like some more info.
Well it's kind of hard not to touch the original firmware without attaching something around it's connection points.
Post by: Pillzburydoofus on June 14, 2006, 08:14:00 PM
Whoopeee. Most people who are gonna use the hacked firmware are probably not gonna care if its on all the time or not. Personally, I haven't bothered with the whoe firmware thing yet for 2 reasons. 1, it's much too complicated flashing and reflashing your drive, etc etc. 2, It only lets you play backups or pirates. After paying $60 for a game, I'm pretty careful with it. I don't let anyone else use the 360 at this point, so I don't have a huge need for backups at this point. Another good reason is my DVD burner doesnt support booktype changing.
(Unless anyone knows of a good firmware mod for that!!! Its the AOPEN DUW1616L-31)
Post by: Arch0n on June 14, 2006, 08:19:00 PM
The Specialist thought that this approach to the firmware mod would be overly difficult to implement in hardware but it seems a group has done it and will possibly beat Devil360 to launch (if Devil360's product is based on the info in that bulletin, rather than what they said later).
Post by: Woore on June 14, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: garlm on June 14, 2006, 08:58:00 PM
It says right there in the article that it auto patches on the fly. This means that you do not need to dump your firmware in order to patch the downloaded firmware with your new key, etc. More of a classic-style installation, where one mod can be installed on any box. Neat that it automatically turns on when needed. And, yes, some people would certainly like that. Some even enough to consider buying that messy looking GRmod device.
But is it upgradable? and can you force it off if you want to? It says you don't need to... but if you do want to?
Still curious about how the hell the devil 360 supposedly works.
Post by: eyric101 on June 14, 2006, 09:08:00 PM
Post by: daghostmon on June 14, 2006, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: garlm on June 14, 2006, 09:39:00 PM
You could still insert a backup while plugged into live.
The only idiot proof option is... not being an idiot.
Post by: Arch0n on June 14, 2006, 09:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Woore @ Jun 15 2006, 03:27 AM)
Sounds like A Modchip For pirates. ...
AFAIK, DVD firmware mods can never be anything but.
The hacking is cool to get to that point but a mass market piracy mod doesn't interest me.
Post by: krayzie on June 14, 2006, 09:58:00 PM
Post by: infamous_Q on June 14, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
its unlikely, i know, i kinda wish someone would work on that....so here's to hopin
Post by: majik655 on June 14, 2006, 10:31:00 PM
It is not 100% fool proof right?
it says it turns ON the hack if a backup is inserted..or turns off if a original is inserted..
then there is something that is ON all the time right? would this "item" that is ON "listening" , able to be detected also from live? I guess anything is possible.. but am I on the right track?
How hard would it be to turn off any network in the 360 by modchip? I would think it would be easy.. but of course it is if not easier to just block the connection from a router anyway right?
Post by: cONEction on June 14, 2006, 11:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Math1 @ Jun 15 2006, 06:40 AM)
"backups" my ass. We all know what this is for.
Man the whole modchip scene is about piracy, if you want to develop homebrew, go take a GP2X , completly opensource!
Post by: PedrosPad on June 15, 2006, 01:37:00 AM
IIRC DVD-Rom drives eject, close, and spin up with only power connected (and no data connector to the host system). So, technically, the modified DVD-Rom drive could spin up, check if the media is original or backup, and switch FWs, independently! - all before it begins to respond to any requests from the data cable.
Advisory: Hardware isn't my field.
Post by: Arch0n on June 15, 2006, 02:10:00 AM
QUOTE(cONEction @ Jun 15 2006, 07:04 AM)
Man the whole modchip scene is about piracy, if you want to develop homebrew, go take a GP2X , completly opensource!
Tell that to the guys at xbox-linux.orgPedrosPad: Yep. Makes you wonder what M$ will/could do about firmware modding. NME would make dumping the firmware and comparing against known pure hashes pointless. Looks like the mouse is ahead of the cat for a little while longer
Post by: bonevichio on June 15, 2006, 04:49:00 AM
Post by: krims0n on June 15, 2006, 08:14:00 AM
QUOTE(cONEction @ Jun 15 2006, 01:04 AM)
Man the whole modchip scene is about piracy, if you want to develop homebrew, go take a GP2X , completly opensource!
Yeah, they also make these wild devices now a days called "computers" that allow you to run unsigned code.
Post by: LordX on June 15, 2006, 01:55:00 PM
modchip cant detect if game is original or backup , just inpossible !
and 4 wires ? like what ? GND+5v+OE+??
Post by: nanakifirelight on June 15, 2006, 08:27:00 PM
Plus I am also interested in this mod however I will probably still get a friend to do the soldiering cause I wont want to fsck anything up.
Post by: LordX on June 16, 2006, 05:22:00 AM
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QUOTE(LordX @ Jun 15 2006, 10:02 PM)
sounds like total bullshit to me.
modchip cant detect if game is original or backup , just inpossible !
and 4 wires ? like what ? GND+5v+OE+??
from my understanding its not exactly a modchip, it seems to have direct communication w/ the dvd drive, which means i should be able to tell if its a backup or not. for instance they could just do a check to see if the dvd drive read it as a regular x360 disc, or if it came back w/ an error that a backup would give
no way , this done between MainBoardCPU and DVD , all data is crypted! and you have to make BIOS Hack on the boot before DVDCPU load the BIOS to memory.
Post by: dmitri on June 16, 2006, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(majik655 @ Jun 15 2006, 04:38 AM)
How hard would it be to turn off any network in the 360 by modchip? I would think it would be easy.. but of course it is if not easier to just block the connection from a router anyway right?
Great idea.. When it detects a backup, force X wire on the network connector to ground out, disabling the network. Or disconnect the power line. Configurable with a toggle switch. That would be a great solution.
-dp
Post by: Andydigital on June 17, 2006, 04:12:00 AM
QUOTE(dmitri @ Jun 17 2006, 12:30 AM)
Great idea.. When it detects a backup, force X wire on the network connector to ground out, disabling the network. Or disconnect the power line. Configurable with a toggle switch. That would be a great solution.
-dp
Or get up off your ass and unplug the network cable when your running back ups.
Post by: sowa99 on June 17, 2006, 04:49:00 AM
This is pre-order? For 40 euro? It's not cheap
Post by: nj12nets on June 18, 2006, 06:34:00 AM
Post by: n00bal3r7 on June 18, 2006, 06:46:00 AM
, on the site they say start of july 
f00k me my joining date on this site is hilarious , considering w00ts about to happen ^^