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Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 02, 2006, 05:57:00 PM
i just got my 10th console today and it seems to be working, so i opened it up and dumped my firmware (5x and checked to make sure they where all the same) with no problem, flashed the drive with 800 and got it detected in windows with no problems, riped the SS from Oblivion still no problems,

I Sent the CDB command to unlock the drive and i got that "No Sense" error that I've heard everyone talk about (i searched and searched but couldn't find anything on it),

Ive tried Sending the CDB command with the game in with the game out with the Disk tray in and with the disk tray out, While its ejecting and while its loading the disk tray but cant seem to get it to unlock the drive (it says the image is 6.??MB, with Video_ts and Audio_ts for folders),

am i doing something wrong?, or what do i need to do?


As Always Thanks for the Help
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: liteon6x on June 02, 2006, 06:16:00 PM
wow man u got 10 xbox 360 wat are u gonna do with all of them
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: mandrake001 on June 02, 2006, 05:55:00 PM
QUOTE(liteon6x @ Jun 3 2006, 01:47 AM) View Post

wow man u got 10 xbox 360 wat are u gonna do with all of them




Lol what do you think ? sell m maybe with fuxored fw ?
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 02, 2006, 06:36:00 PM
OK you guys haven't heard, Ive been telling everyone that i cant seem to get a working 360 now I'm on my 10th replacement and it seems to be working so i opened it and am trying to hack it (well i actually have hacked it just having problems unlocking it...duh.....lol), anyone know a solution?
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: TheRealPeppers on June 02, 2006, 07:25:00 PM
yes I had the same error message but I ignored it and continued and my dump still worked fine

btw you going to want to enter the code after the disk loads

(now I must get the faster and better wxRipper methade working)

This post has been edited by TheRealPeppers: Jun 3 2006, 02:34 AM
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 02, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
QUOTE(TheRealPeppers @ Jun 2 2006, 05:56 PM) View Post

yes I had the same error message but I ignored it and continued and my dump still worked fine

btw you going to want to enter the code after the disk loads

(now I must get the faster and better wxRipper methade working)

ya i tried that but i don't think the Game is 6MB big
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 02, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
this is the error
(IMG:http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/Grim187/nosense.jpg)
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Reaper527 on June 02, 2006, 10:52:00 PM
are you ripping your game properly? there are plenty of tuts here on x-s on how to do it. from my understanding you would either use the xbox 360 drive hooked up to your pc to read the disc, or you would use a opened pc dvd drive and do a hotswap (taking the lid off the drive, NOT using the pinhole). the 6mb file leads me to belive that you are getting the layer with the little video that says "Put this disc in an xbox 360 console" that it wills how if you put a retail game in an xbox, a stand alone dvd player, a ps2, anything that reads dvd's thats not a 360.
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 12:12:00 AM
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Jun 2 2006, 09:23 PM) View Post

are you ripping your game properly? there are plenty of tuts here on x-s on how to do it. from my understanding you would either use the xbox 360 drive hooked up to your pc to read the disc, or you would use a opened pc dvd drive and do a hotswap (taking the lid off the drive, NOT using the pinhole). the 6mb file leads me to belive that you are getting the layer with the little video that says "Put this disc in an xbox 360 console" that it wills how if you put a retail game in an xbox, a stand alone dvd player, a ps2, anything that reads dvd's thats not a 360.

well its not a question about am i riping the game right its a question of how can i get the drive unlocked so i can rip the game, i refuse to use the open DVD drive method because non of my DVD drives have the disk holder actually on the top of the drive (nor do they have that emergency eject), so basically i need this to work, no one has solved the problem of the "No Sense" error?
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 03:13:00 AM
the pic of the error dissapired for some reason here it is
(IMG:http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/Grim187/NoSense.jpg)
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: pdottz on June 03, 2006, 03:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Grim187 @ Jun 3 2006, 12:28 AM) View Post

i just got my 10th console today and it seems to be working


i beleive you. im on my 2nd one. but ive been reading the xb forums over at MS. nothing but problems with systems. if my new one dies again, refund and i'm never buying an ms console again.
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: pCeSlAyEr on June 03, 2006, 09:01:00 AM
the fact its showing the video folders tells me its working fine... im assuming your set up the lba info is isobuster to extend past the layerbreak...

*EDIT*

you sure you sent the command correctly? try a full version or a diff version of dvdinfo pro..

This post has been edited by pCeSlAyEr: Jun 3 2006, 04:12 PM
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 11:34:00 AM
QUOTE(pCeSlAyEr @ Jun 3 2006, 07:32 AM) View Post

the fact its showing the video folders tells me its working fine... im assuming your set up the lba info is isobuster to extend past the layerbreak...

*EDIT*

you sure you sent the command correctly? try a full version or a diff version of dvdinfo pro..

ya i read a couple tuts and i'm doing everything right, ya that's the only thing that i could think of is get another program that will send CDB or Get the full version of DVDinfo pro, if that dosent work i guess im not gonna be Riping games

Edit: I just got and installed the full version and same thing,

IPB Image

Yes i hit refresh before i took the screen shot
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 01:06:00 PM
just thout i would add that i get the same error when the drive has no power.....lol, ive tried booting the computer and 360 togather with sata cable attached, tried booting the 360 with the sata cable atached to its self and then hotswaping, and a crap load of other things, if anyone has any slutions or ideas i would love to hear them, also if anyone knows of another program that will send CDB commands i wanna know about it,

Thanks for all the help guys
ill let you guys know if i get it working
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Sharky on June 03, 2006, 02:49:00 PM
instead of typing ff, in lowercase  try typing it in Capital letters (FF) biggrin.gif
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Sharky @ Jun 3 2006, 01:56 PM) View Post

instead of typing ff, in lowercase  try typing it in Capital letters (FF) biggrin.gif

its still the same charters and i have tryed that, right now my 360 is in pices so i cant try agian(im sanding down the heatsyncs), but i probly will latter today
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Sharky on June 03, 2006, 05:36:00 PM
you could also try XBOX / XBOX 360 Image SS Extractor / Patcher Ver 1.5
works a treat  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 06:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Sharky @ Jun 3 2006, 04:07 PM) View Post

you could also try XBOX / XBOX 360 Image SS Extractor / Patcher Ver 1.5
works a treat  smile.gif

well i already have the ss i just cant unlock the drive if it dose this i would like a link, or is it in the usual places?
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
o you mean "SS_Patcher1_5o" i have it i doubt it will send cdb commands or extract but ill check it out
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 08:36:00 PM
"an error accured", i also tryed Dumping the SS and they where never the same so i think theres something wroung with its connection to the pc, has anyone gotten it to rip in XP pro SP2 MCE?
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 09:19:00 PM
also tried Unlocker 0.1 by the specialist, it locked up my comp, and when i didn't have a game in it gave me a error
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: LESTAT on June 03, 2006, 09:35:00 PM
im gunna ask this because i have to... so dont take offense to it

take a picture of the top of your dvd drive so we can see the make and model

are you working with the right dvd drive type ?

and how new is this console meaning whats the manufacturing date ?


anyone think maybe possibly a hidden dashboard update that is locking the dvd firmware into place or has changed the way it has to be unlocked or flashed it with an unlockable firmware..?  just a thought.
i did have an update when i played PGR3 the other day but i dont know what it was.. maybe the cadillac update ?

and what OS are you running ?
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 03, 2006, 09:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Grim187 @ Jun 3 2006, 07:07 PM) *

has anyone gotten it to rip in XP pro SP2 MCE?


my cam sucks balls and its dark so you couldn't even be able to tell if it was a TS drive,
Everything it says on the top from DVD bezel to sata port

Chrome DVD Bezel

DVD-ROM Drive Model TS-H943 designed by Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology
12v --- 1.3A 5v --- 0.6A (i ain't putting the rest of the shit there's no way in hell that I'm typing that much...lol)
Part No: X800473-016
Made in Indonesia                       BG68-01036A Rev.00

BARCODE
TS-H943A/MCAH 6RML203278 F/W:ms25
H/W:005    Ver.A     FEBRUARY 2006

Sata port

DVD drive Type?, i have 2 DVD drives in my computer and this one always comes up as F so ya I'm sure i haven't bricked one of my burners

MFG: 2006-04-25 (I.E April 25th 2006)
Serial: 3104445 *****
Product ID: 77093331310444561705

it works fine i can throw the Xtreme.bin on there and boot an original and scene release just cant unlock it

This post has been edited by Grim187: Jun 4 2006, 04:58 AM
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 04, 2006, 05:35:00 AM
i got it to recognize 2.99GB so probably when i put in all the lba stuff it will work, what i did

Power 360 w/o Cables attached to the drive
after full boot, Plugged in Sata cable then Power cable and pressed eject

Note: Dvdinfo pro still gives me that error but it dose show up

Edit:
Note2: When i pressed eject it did not eject it just started reading

Well Ive been working on this all day, night and morning, I'm so happy i got it working, no sleep for me

This post has been edited by Grim187: Jun 4 2006, 12:48 PM
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 04, 2006, 06:35:00 AM
wow thats alot of dimp, i wrote that as fast as i could thinking that i was gonna rip that game, well as soon as i tryed my pc locked up and now no matter what i do i get E63 anyone know what that one is?
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 04, 2006, 07:51:00 AM
the Drive isn't turning on until 3mins after boot this is great, anyone know a solution?

This post has been edited by Grim187: Jun 4 2006, 02:51 PM
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Textbook on June 04, 2006, 08:27:00 AM
I replied in your XBH thread, I'll copy and paste it in here too.

Also, this is how I have my drive connected.

Running Windows Media Center Edition 2005 (Basically XP Pro SP2 with a Media Center)

I have the drive powered by the Xbox 360 through the 12-pin cable, and the SATA is hooked up to the computer.  Both my Xbox 360 and computer are off.  I power on my computer only.  It doesn't see anything, because the DVD drive technically isn't there (no power).  I wait until Windows and all startup programs are completely loaded.  I have SATA/RAID drivers for my motherboard already installed.  I hit eject on my Xbox 360, the DVD drive ejects and my computer gives me a message that says Drive Connected!  I look in My Computer and it shows up as a DVD-ROM drive.  I put in the game.  It never locks up if I do it that way.

As for the "No Sense" error,

QUOTE
Grim, I have received the "No Sense" error everytime I have sent that command.  ISOBuster sees no file system, so I know the drive is unlocked correctly.  All of my backups have played perfectly, haven't made a single coaster yet.  Now, here's something interesting:  if I open up DVDInfoPro and skip the ss extraction and just send the unlock signal, I will still get the "No Sense" error.  But, the drive doesn't unlock.  I open up ISOBuster and I see the Audio and Video folders.  This is also interesting:  If I extract the ss from the disc using the four commands, the drive is unlocked.  If I completely skip the "unlock" command, all I'm doing is saving myself some time, because the drive is already unlocked after extracting the SS.

So...maybe the "unlock" command isn't even necessary at all.  Just extract your ss and then open up ISOBuster.
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: Grim187 on June 06, 2006, 10:43:00 PM
i got another drive and tried that and it dident work, will it unlock more then once (i ejected and forgot to put in the game and tryed unlocking (it showed up as a cd drive)?
Title: No One Has Sense Anymore
Post by: njgsng2004 on June 06, 2006, 10:37:00 PM
I got the same no sense error and did a bit of searching dry.gif , I found that it works if you just enter in the cdb commands to get the security sectors, it unlocks it. Works for me. Explored it and I burned it fine though on my XBOX 360 it hangs at reading. Is it the media?