Post by: Xbox-Scene on May 18, 2006, 06:26:00 PM
Pioneer 110D Bitsetting Firmware *Update* and Xecuter 360 Kits Update-- Posted by XanTium on May 18 19:50 EST
From team-xecuter.com:
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As you may or may not know you require [for the Xbox 360 firmware hack] a Dual Layer Burner that supports bitsetting / book type setting so the burned disc will read in DVD-ROM format. Pioneer 110D drives don't support this but the Dangerous Brothers have released a firmware that adds AUTO-BITSETTING function. I have tested this and it works with 360 burns. As most people I speak to have this model of DL burner I figured i'd make a post about it.
*Update* It seems all Pioneer 109 110 11 support bitsetting for DVD+R DL however they do not for DVD+R. This firmware will be useful if a hack is released that supports +R burns (not just +R DL)
Goto their site and look for:
'Currently RPC1 with Bitsetting firmware based on 1.22 (Synthesized from 8.22)'
Simply double click on the EXE and you can upgrade with ease in Windows.
Also please re-read our last news post. Some people are confused about a few points, especcially how convenient and useful the ODD (Optical Disc Drive) adapter is. I have re-edited a little to make it clearer.
Post by: evilkeo on May 18, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
what's this mean in english? whatever it is, sounds like fun!
(easily amused)
Post by: Digital_sin on May 18, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
Post by: youwhat on May 18, 2006, 05:10:00 PM
Post by: hurlamania on May 18, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
The only problem is the current firmware 1.39 states it can't be downgraded and this is based on 1.22 how does one get around that?
Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 18, 2006, 05:52:00 PM
Post by: Spark on May 18, 2006, 05:58:00 PM
Post by: Joergen on May 18, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
And in this case, the +DL format apparently is the only option due to the DVD-DL format not NEEDING to be bitset to be compatible with dvd players but alas the DVD-R2 mediatype is not something the 360 accepts as DVD-ROM.
I always thought Philips was a money grabbing fool for releasing a competing format to the official, most compatible DVD-R but with this whole 360 thing I finally admit its good to have competition (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
And for the record I bought a Pioneer A03 (2x dvd-r) in 2001 for 700 dollars and I LOOOOVE Pioneer.
edit: and also Philips does not have the right to use the DVD-ROM mediacode for their products, thus bitsetting is a bit like miniature piracy.
This post has been edited by Joergen: May 19 2006, 01:03 AM
Post by: kronas on May 18, 2006, 06:01:00 PM
Could not connect to the database
i get that when i try and download the 1.22 firmware (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
anyone got a link to another uploaded image
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: brywalker on May 18, 2006, 06:03:00 PM
Wake me up when there is a firmware for the FREAKIN XBOX360! Hitachi, that is.
Post by: Spark on May 18, 2006, 06:05:00 PM
Personally, all this waiting around for the hitatchi hack is pissing my fucking life off as well, but this news will be useful to a lot of people.
This post has been edited by Spark: May 19 2006, 01:05 AM
Post by: PashaK on May 18, 2006, 06:12:00 PM
wasnt it stated that the booktype is switched automatically when it gets to the 2nd layer?
my apologies if im wrong
thx
Post by: Spark on May 18, 2006, 06:13:00 PM
Post by: PleXo on May 18, 2006, 05:40:00 PM
:D
Post by: Spark on May 18, 2006, 06:18:00 PM
Post by: itchy on May 18, 2006, 06:27:00 PM
The DVR-110D and the DVR-111D automatically set the booksetting (booktype) to DVD-ROM.
I know. I have both drives.
Post by: Looouky on May 18, 2006, 05:53:00 PM
There is group called Buffalo from Japan that release various Bitsetting firmware for various drives. These firmware are usually denoted as 8.** where ** correspons to pioneer's various number.
So 8.39 is bitsetting firmware modified from pioneer 1.39!
These firmware for a lot of pioneer drives can be found here:
http://forum.rpc1.or...4&manufactor=25
Now just to clearify these firmwares only do bitsetting on DVD+R and DVD+R DL.
Once you flash your drive with one of these firmwares, you will not be able to download the pioneer firmware and just flash your drive back to the original. Pioneer will not let you, it will give you an error saying your current firmware is not supported. Don't panic! I went through this already.
So here is another very useful tool for owners with pioneer drives(DAM We are so lucky!!)
DVRFlash:
http://lasvegas.rpc1.org/
DVRFLASH will flash your drive with any firmware you give it you can even force it, keeping this in mind be careful. So now with this tool you will be able to downgrade you firmware, and apply any till your heart contents. Oh by the way you need 2 files to flash the drive the kernel and the normal firmware this is usually found once you unpack whatever firmware release your are using. This is usually found in a corresponding subfolder on your C drive.
An example of how to use DVRFLASH taken from the readme:
In the following samples, the kernel firmware is 'R5100004.133' and the
normal firmware is 'R5100104.133'. You will need to change those names
according to the firmwares you downloaded.
You can input these firmwares in any order you like as DVRFlash will
recognize them automatically.
And YES you can go back and forth ANY official/patched firmware revision
or patch official/patched x.yz over official/patched x.yz
Don't you think we would TELL YOU if it was otherwise???
[NT/2k/XP/2k3]
You don't have to install anything special. Just open a DOS Window and run
a command like:
DVRFlash -vf I: R5100004.133 R5100104.133
In this case 'I:' is the DVR drive letter.
The command above will force flash a 105 compatible drive (in I:) with the
Pioneer DVR-105 v1.33 firmware
The command above also works with USB/Firewire drives
If you don't know your drive letter, just run DVRFlash without parameters
and write down the drive letter detected by the program. Then run the
command as indicated above
So people with 109, 110, and 110D can now enjoy bitsetting.
Post by: Eric10301 on May 18, 2006, 06:30:00 PM
Post by: Nightbird on May 18, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
Pioneer 108,109,110 and 111 original firmware bit-sets DVD+R DL to dvdrom and DVD+R to +R.
The dangerous brothers firmware only modifies single layer DVD+R discs to be written with the booktype dvdrom. Buffalo firmware also does the same thing. But seeing as the XBOX360 games are burned to Dual Layer discs anyway, nobody needs to change their firmware if they have a pioneer writer. The firmware from the Buffalo and the dangerous brothers is useful for Xbox 1 Samsung 605b owners who want to be able to use +R discs on their drive as the firmware auto-bit-sets single layer +R to dvdrom. They will no longer get the unknown disc message when using +R.
Post by: brywalker on May 18, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
NEC. I have gone through 3 in the past 3 years. In a good way.
2540a - about 2k burns, now in my wifes PC still burns like a champ.
3540a #1 - about 1k burns, still going strong.
3540a #2 - about 800 burns, good as new.
3550a - In my Mac, loving life.
I am using the hacked firmwares from Liggy and Dee. Bitsetting, RPC disable, fast ripping, better media support, you name it. I have only made coasters when it was my own damn fault (shitty images) - but I have never EVER had a burn go bad. Every single one I have burned are as good as the day I burned it.
Best part is, these drives are under $40.
I cannot say enough good things about them. I have seen people having problems on the forums, but I assume they are assheads that don't know what they are doing. If my wife can use it and not have problems, man there is something wrong in your head if you do - because she's a fucking retard.
Post by: Kafluke on May 18, 2006, 06:11:00 PM
). I'm playing a backup of Madden 06 right now that was burned with a Pioneer 109 and CloneCD with no settings messed withMan, I hope that they come up with a better way to make backups though. Its a bitch to tear the whole xbox down to the dvd drive, open the side of my computer and spend another 2 hours re-flashing, ripping, extracting, patching, building and then burning. Then reassemble the whole box after re-flashing to play again.
I guess I should just be grateful that I have a Samsung drive. Sorry to bitch guys (those of you with the Hitachi drive), I feel your pain. Now...
back to Madden!
Post by: nachomans on May 18, 2006, 07:58:00 PM
Buffalo firmware works on 109 and 110, and set dvd+R to dvd-rom
Anyway......XBOX1 backups will work on dvd+r set to rom, or need dual layer dvds?
Post by: moto_noob on May 18, 2006, 08:40:00 PM
This post has been edited by moto_noob: May 19 2006, 03:43 AM
Post by: FlashKick on May 18, 2006, 08:29:00 PM
thanks
Post by: brywalker on May 18, 2006, 09:03:00 PM
QUOTE(moto_noob @ May 19 2006, 03:11 AM) 
ok, i'm noob i know, just started on this. can someone tell me which is the best burner to get? i'm reading either the pioneer 110d or the pioneer 111. or should i get a different brand, but it has to have bit setting/booktype. and if i get the dvr-111 do i have to flash with buffalo/dangerous bro. firmware?
Get this burner, flash with the Liggy and Dee firmware, burn away. I beat the TAR out of NEC drives and they come back for more.
NEC 3550a
QUOTE(FlashKick @ May 19 2006, 03:36 AM)
anyone can confirm the NEC DL burners(any of them) can do the booktype change?
thanks
3540a; 3550a with good firmware. Look for the Liggy and Dee releases.
Post by: syd41 on May 18, 2006, 10:00:00 PM
The Pioneer burners DO support bitsetting on DVD+R DL media. They DO NOT support bitsetting on single layer media. Since you need to use DL media for 360 use you have no problem with a Pioneer burner. It automatically sets the booktype to DVD-ROM on +R DL media. You don't have to do a thing. You don't need hacked firmware or any utility it just works. I know this to be true for at least the 109 and 110.
Post by: MrDeeds on May 18, 2006, 10:15:00 PM
This particular firmware are for those who would like to change the bitset for dvd+r and dvd+rw disks or possibly not use dvd-rom on dual layer +r disks which is the default for the pioneer drives.
I think the article should be ammened to say that if all your concerned with are your 360 backups, you do not need this.
You can burn 360 backups with successfully or without this firmware. Do not flash your drives if you dont care about dvd+r and dvd+rw.
Post by: The Zep Man on May 18, 2006, 11:49:00 PM
QUOTE(brywalker @ May 19 2006, 02:08 AM)
OK, well instead of shitting on this thread again, I will offer some advise.
NEC. I have gone through 3 in the past 3 years. In a good way.
2540a - about 2k burns, now in my wifes PC still burns like a champ.
3540a #1 - about 1k burns, still going strong.
3540a #2 - about 800 burns, good as new.
3550a - In my Mac, loving life.
I am using the hacked firmwares from Liggy and Dee. Bitsetting, RPC disable, fast ripping, better media support, you name it. I have only made coasters when it was my own damn fault (shitty images) - but I have never EVER had a burn go bad. Every single one I have burned are as good as the day I burned it.
Best part is, these drives are under $40.
I cannot say enough good things about them. I have seen people having problems on the forums, but I assume they are assheads that don't know what they are doing. If my wife can use it and not have problems, man there is something wrong in your head if you do - because she's a fucking retard.
Any NEC-drive since the NEC-ND2100 (modded to a NEC-ND2510) can configure bitsetting to anything you want it to be, as long as you load the right firmware. Thankfully, the NEC-drive is more popular to mod than those Pioneers.
By the way, it's possible to mod the ND-3550 (DVD-burner), ND-3551 (DVD-burner with Labelflash support) and ND-4550 (DVD-burner with DVD-RAM support) to a ND-4551 (DVD-burner with Labelflash and DVD-RAM support). The above drives are the only ones which can be modded to the ND-4551. No other drives are supported. Read here to find out how. Two drives are already modded succesfully by me (both ND-3550's). I can confirm that the X-3 firmware from Liggy & Dee is fully supported after you have done the mod. Use the latest version of Nero 7 if you want to print Labelflash to DVD-media.
[edit]
Interesting detail: NEC-drives also support changing the bitsetting on the drives which officially support DVD+R(W) DL for those discs, using the original firmware. Since the ND-2510, to be correctly. This drive is something like 4 years old.
Post by: stanneh on May 19, 2006, 01:22:00 AM
Post by: |vibez| on May 19, 2006, 01:51:00 AM
All pioneer dual layer burners automatically set DL+R media to the correct booktype for x360 backups (DVD-ROM DL) Therefore there is no need to use this firmware as the standard firmware is just perfect.
The only time you might need this firmware is if you are burning single layer DVD+R, but seeing as the xtreme firmware needs dual layer discs, this feature is not required.
So in summary, you do not need this modified firmware to play backups on the xtreme firmware hack. The pioneer automatically sets the correct booktype
This post has been edited by |vibez|: May 19 2006, 08:53 AM
Post by: $@L on May 19, 2006, 08:02:00 AM
, Oh wait i just read that all pioneers support it but just to make sure can anyone confirm this ?
Post by: Patriot on May 19, 2006, 10:57:00 AM
The front news page should be corrected.
Post by: aznboi89x on May 19, 2006, 02:31:00 PM
Post by: hurlamania on May 19, 2006, 02:32:00 PM
And what is the differance between the 110D and the 111D?
Post by: $@L on May 19, 2006, 04:38:00 PM
Good to know that my lil" DVR-R100 is good to go!
Post by: xboxto on May 21, 2006, 03:41:00 PM
Does my pioneer 110D support burning dual layer with bitsetting manually and is it needed to
this way to run backups successfully? Surely, the pioneers are worthy!
I am interested for testing purposes, but have some problems with the program dvdinfo!
When hitting the +RW button its states
"Pioneer Drives Do Not Support Bitsetting"
Tell me i dont need a liteon or nec??? hell no!
Is the answer with a buffalo update for the pioneer?
regards
xboxto
Post by: realdeal2006 on June 05, 2006, 01:30:00 PM
is it a problem with dvdinfo
thanx
guys