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Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: InterestedHacker on December 27, 2005, 07:48:00 AM

Yep, read this and be amazed... Is it true though?

http://www.console-news.org/index.php?id=4...11568&view=text

EXPERIENCE XBOX 360 *SELFBOOTING* DISC!
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Platform: Xbox 360 Category: Big m$ fuckup!
Released: 12/27/2005 Origin: Europe/ Pal
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*** YES YOU CAN BURN THIS ISO AND PLAY IT IN YOUR XBOX-360 ***
MS left us with this blanket statement:
"Xbox 360 retail kiosks have started arriving at retailers.
Due to the nature of the distribution process, not all kiosks
are hitting simultaneously, but are continuing to pop up in
retailers across the country in the coming weeks.
The kiosks are designed for a retail environment and feature
game samples, game trailers and product information."
Team Pi leaves you with this Pillow statement:
"It seems MS was in such a hurry to get this stuff out
that they forgot to set the media protection on this disc.
This leaves hackers with the posibility to hack around with
this disc that load from a normal DVDR5 backup! - Team Pi
also notes that the all datafiles on this disc isn't signed in
any way, and will allow for extensive modification for producing
exploits to further our efford to hack this box!"
Playable (hackable) games on this disc:
Call of Duty 2, Hexic, Kameo, King Kong.
Also includes lots of game and accessory demos in video format.
Nothing ripped, just foreign videos were downsampled to fit
onto a normal DVDR5!
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YES you can run this! Burn the iso, put it into your xbox and
be very amazed... Next, think of the posibilities of hacking
this little demo disc that we might start running code on
the retail xbox 360's !
So the second task is done. We hope this encourages all hackers,
coders and crackers out there to take up the challenge.
Enjoy!

Special note to the Clear kids: Yes, we are old and lazy, and no,
we are not going to do some scene war against you. Life is too
short for that, and our dicks are allready large enough

Keep up the hard work!
Pi Putting the 360' Spin on the Xbox :-)

EDIT:

Doesn't help anyone get around the signing though... So I am not sure just how useful this will be?

EDIT2: Just re-read it, it says they aren't signed??? If this is even possible, does that mean you could just remove the signatures altogether from existing originals?

This post has been edited by InterestedHacker: Dec 27 2005, 03:51 PM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MrPhunkee on December 27, 2005, 08:05:00 AM

I was about to post it as well. Interesting..

And yes, it's legit

This post has been edited by MrPhunkee: Dec 27 2005, 04:06 PM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Furious Devil on December 27, 2005, 08:12:00 AM

I've just found this, the Xbox 360 Kiosk Demo Disc, Burn it and just play it in your XBox 360, That easy
Probbably MS Forgot to secure the disck, Shal this be a way to play backups? Seems easy to me just edit de demo's on the dvd and put full games there, burn it play it?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Be_Vigilant on December 27, 2005, 07:38:00 AM

Just came across this myself !!!!

VERY INTERESTING !!!!

Wonder why it isnt on the xbox-scene news page yet...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MaTiAz on December 27, 2005, 07:43:00 AM

Hmm, hope to get it from somewhere ;D
We should keep a list of kernel versions it runs on, as I'm pretty sure that MS WILL release a patch via XBL to prevent that disk running on home machines. Kiosks propably aren't connected to XBL, and they are authorized to use the disk so they don't need to be updated.

E: Furious Devil, be sure to report about if it works

Because this disk *may* be our key to future

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Be_Vigilant on December 27, 2005, 07:45:00 AM

They must be waiting for confirmation that is all 100% OK.

Nothing like posting fake news lol ps2nfo/maxconsole any1 lol

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: PCBUILDERCHRIS on December 27, 2005, 08:22:00 AM

we need this baby to bring it to life its like frankenstien

hahahaha

count dragulia (dracula):

later this month theyre alive

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on December 27, 2005, 08:38:00 AM

This is good news. I think it will open the door for lots of utils and the likes. I dont think it will be able to boot games but it may open the door for ftp tools hdd file managers. it might even open up let you access the hdd so that we can upgrade to sommit a little bigger than 20gig. It might also let us copy 007 gamesave exploits etc and hack the emulation.

There are too many if's and but's, Only time will tell if we can get the scene rocking. M$ will prob also do a kernel and dash update to nip this in the bud if it looks promissing

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: krayzie on December 27, 2005, 08:41:00 AM

arggh no not again.....you cannot put games in there and run them. Do a search and read throught the countless posts on this subject.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: AddNtoX on December 27, 2005, 08:53:00 AM

krayzie is right you canmt just go ripping files and adding them to the disk the files on a retail game are still signed. But for some people the release of this disk will hold some useful information. The dvd firmware people will find this interesting for watching how the dvdrom behaves when the disk is inserted. Whilst it may not prove to be the shot that slays the monster it will no doubt proviude some useful info to the right people.

This post has been edited by AddNtoX: Dec 27 2005, 04:53 PM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jizmo on December 27, 2005, 08:54:00 AM

Strip all the undesirable stuff from there, replace a certain WMV-HD video with a WMV-HD video of your choise, burn it to DVD+RW and voilá, you've just turned your x360 to a standalone HDTV player that doesn't require that bloody MCE.

This post has been edited by jizmo: Dec 27 2005, 05:00 PM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: tronxoe on December 27, 2005, 02:34:00 PM

As I understand, this disc was signed but they forgot to turn the DVD+/-R flag off. So we can burn it onto a recordable dvd media.
Hopefully we find a "hole" to exploit

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ZildjianKX on December 27, 2005, 02:37:00 PM

Wait, how is it booting unsigned code?

QUOTE(tronxoe @ Dec 27 2005, 01:41 PM)

As I understand, this disc was signed but they forgot to turn the DVD+/-R flag off. So we can burn it onto a recordable dvd media.
Hopefully we find a "hole" to exploit

Ah, that makes more sense. Now we would be really lucky if one of the game demo executables on the disc wasn't signed, then maybe they could be replaced with another unsigned executable and launched from the demo disc, but that's probably really doubtful.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: tubesock on December 27, 2005, 03:26:00 PM

The disc is browseable in WinXP also.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: LepPpeR on December 27, 2005, 03:26:00 PM

Next person to mention they are getting it, have it, downloading it, torrents, or anything regarding it will be banned. I am serious.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Joergen on December 27, 2005, 02:59:00 PM

So somebody verify if the demos are actually playable or not.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: DickE on December 27, 2005, 03:08:00 PM

QUOTE(Joergen @ Dec 27 2005, 10:06 PM)

So somebody verify if the demos are actually playable or not.

Yes they are perfectly playable

You should even be able to rip the game demos off the disc, and place each one on a individual DVD-R and still run them fine.

What I'm waiting for is the first person to successfully change a WMV HD file to another non xbox one, to see if that works, as it should do in theory, unless the WMV are somehow signed

.

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DickE

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Moleman on December 27, 2005, 03:13:00 PM

Yeah, J Allard must be pimp-slapping some bitches now.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: tubesock on December 27, 2005, 03:25:00 PM

Works fine on NTSC/USA retail 360's.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jamie123 on December 27, 2005, 03:26:00 PM

QUOTE(UberJim @ Dec 27 2005, 11:24 PM)

Seems to be PAL, does this boot fine on an NTSC set up?

i noticed that, and i'm wondering the same question

i'm also wondering, since these work perfectlyh, isn't this a big step to getting any kind of homebrew to run? becuase correct me if i'm wrong, but this means that the xbox 360 can run files that aren'ts ecured, so if we build the our programs like these ones on the disk, using the same file structure and all that, wouldn't it run in theory?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Swede_Hac on December 27, 2005, 03:32:00 PM

QUOTE(jamie123 @ Dec 27 2005, 11:33 PM)

Im sorry Jamie or whatever your name is... This have been said about 10 times in this thread, They are signed they just doesnt have any mediaflag set. That means that you could copy the files etc withouth loosing the signature. But if you change the content of the XEX it will lose its signature and the white box wont run it. Its just like the emulator upgrade you can download from xbox.com

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cja100 on December 27, 2005, 03:38:00 PM

QUOTE(jamie123 @ Dec 27 2005, 10:33 PM)

the xex files ARE Signed (secured) but the media check (flag) in the secured files is not set to dvd-rom. it is set to something else but im not sure what as i dont have this disc. it could be set to allow it to be run on anything (dvd-r,hard drive or off your mums behind).

A XBOX 360 CANNOT RUN UNISIGNED (UNSECURED) CODE (XEX/XBE FILES)!!!!!!!
only devkits and modded boxes can.

i think PI means the xex files dont check the other files

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Oner on December 27, 2005, 03:43:00 PM

I hope a team will step up and put some time into this as it could be the next "Dreamcast", not as in success (or failure that is) but as in bootable discs (or similar utils etc.). I wonder how the chip makers will feel about this and what their future plans could be?.... Either way it is cool news and will really put some fire/speed in the 360 scene.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Swede_Hac on December 27, 2005, 03:45:00 PM

QUOTE(Crackmonger @ Dec 27 2005, 11:44 PM)

Why did they say this then?

But it wouldnt run if it werent signed... They have to talk about signed with the mediacheck....

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MaTiAz on December 27, 2005, 03:49:00 PM

Some people seem to misunderstand that PI statement. The datafiles aren't signed, but the executables are. Executable is not data (well it's one form of data if we think about it as raw, but the 360 uses it as executable, not data).

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 27, 2005, 03:58:00 PM

I can confirm its working. All the demo's are working and all the movies are playing fine. I noticed when the disc starts up the dvd drive swaps a lot with the laser.
It just booted up nicely in my xbox360, a nice demo disc. Sadly the topspin 2 demo isn't on it.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ZildjianKX on December 27, 2005, 04:03:00 PM

Excuse me if I'm being dumb... but this is my understanding thus far...

The demo disc was backed up, the xex files are signed, and the data files are not signed. There media flag is different on the demo disc's xex files than those of games.

So... aren't the xex files of the backed up games signed as well? Is it just the media flag keeping the backed up games from running, or do the xex files somehow become unsigned from how they are backed up (so how was the demo backed up then?).

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jamie123 on December 27, 2005, 04:07:00 PM

QUOTE(Swede_Hac @ Dec 27 2005, 11:39 PM)

ok, so the mediacheck isn't set to dvd, how does this further help us in running homebrew on the 360 then? becuase from what i'm reading, this won't help at all, or will it???

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Zenofex on December 27, 2005, 04:11:00 PM

Sorry if yall have answered this before but what are the files that end in .xexp1 ? also i wonder what testxex.xex is

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MaTiAz on December 27, 2005, 04:14:00 PM

QUOTE(ZildjianKX @ Dec 28 2005, 01:10 AM)

Yep, it's the media flag. And if we change it, the signature breaks.
So if the XEX says "I'm only allowed to run from pressed Xbox disks", the 360 checks if the XEX is on a pressed Xbox disk, if it's not, it just coldly says "You're not on a pressed disk, go away".

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: yaazz on December 27, 2005, 04:14:00 PM

I would guess that the dashboard structure is there because the demo disc hasa copy of the dashboard on it

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 27, 2005, 04:25:00 PM

QUOTE(kday @ Dec 28 2005, 12:25 AM)

Arghhh... the discussion about the bootable demo discs has been going on for weeks. Nothing new here. Somebody on the afterdawn forums claims to have gotten backups to work on the Xbox Official Magazine UK xbox/xbox 360 demo disc. Only about 1 or 2 people have tried this and said his method didn't work. The person who claims the backups to be working is sending a disc to somebody else via mail. We're awaiting a response (if any).

Probably not going to work since the added xex will most likely fail the media check. Possible room for other exploits though.

edit: wmv-hd sounds promising though!

I'm gonna try if i can get anything to work with this disc.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jamie123 on December 27, 2005, 04:26:00 PM

QUOTE(Swede_Hac @ Dec 27 2005, 11:39 PM)

ok, so the mediacheck isn't set to dvd, how does this further help us in running homebrew on the 360 then? becuase from what i'm reading, this won't help at all, or will it???

edit: anyone know? i really wanna know if this is helping the homebrew scene at all, or just a bonus, because i just don't understand how this is helping us crack the box

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: wweboy on December 27, 2005, 04:31:00 PM

QUOTE(Hack_Bird @ Dec 28 2005, 12:27 AM)

WHOEPS

I said something.....

Then why are you even asking?? If your not asking where or how then why speak at all stay on topic..

I don't see the big point in all this at first when I read it I jumped for joy but the more I think about it this was done on purpose so everyone had the same disc with out issues and "PI" this leet group just happened to get there hands on a copy of the dsic. It isn't that hard I could of gotten a copy of the disc myself and prob burned it whoopy... I hope somthing does come out of this though but I don't want to mod or hack my box.

Xbox live is such a crucial part of the 360 why bother hacking it when you lose such a valueable feature... If not buy another 360 to hack your heart away with.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jamie123 on December 27, 2005, 04:38:00 PM

QUOTE(wweboy @ Dec 28 2005, 12:38 AM)

who says xbox live will be gone once xbox 360 is hacked, with the original you coudl use xbox live and a hacked bios, i'm sure someone will find a way

but please, someone answer my question, how does this help the homebrew scene, i get it, that the xex files are not set to xbox360 dvd media check, but how does this help in developing homebrew software? could we use that executable to launch other homebrew apps? or what?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Hack_Bird on December 27, 2005, 04:44:00 PM

QUOTE(kday @ Dec 28 2005, 12:48 AM)

From what I am thinking, we could use it to launch wmvhd movies

Or maybe we coald runn our own XEX files when we let crash an original....

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jamie123 on December 27, 2005, 04:48:00 PM

QUOTE(Hack_Bird @ Dec 28 2005, 12:51 AM)

Or maybe we coald runn our own XEX files when we let crash an original....

what do you mean?

and does anyone else think that someone could use this to launch homebrew, using the xex that's already there, since the datafiles are not signed, we put in our own files that aren't signed, and have the xex launch them, kinda like launching the wmv videos? or am i totally wrong?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 27, 2005, 04:55:00 PM

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; 2=Xbox 1 and 360 (though backward compatibility)
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;FullDescriptionFile=Kameo.txt
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;ImagePath=game:\images\mta-gm-temp.png
;BannerPath=game:\images\ban-gm-temp.png
;DemoPath=game:\demos\temp\default.exe
;VideoPath=game:\videos\temp.wmv
;RelatedTitle=Jade Empire
;RelatedTitleText=See Also: Jade Empire
;RelatedHardware=Wireless Controller
;RelatedHardwareText=See Also: Wireless Controller
;RatingIcon=app:\rating
;RatingText=Blood, Violence

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Title=Kameo: Elements of Power
Developer=Rare Ltd.
Publisher=MS Game Studios
ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=1
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RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_T.png
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Title=Project Gotham Racing 3
Developer=Bizarre
Publisher=MS Game Studios
ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=3
Description=Project Gotham Racing 3 expands on features racing gamers have grown to love. A truly next generation game both online and off, it is the ultimate combination of breathtaking speed and dynamic style.
FullDescriptionFile=pgr3.txt
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BannerPath=game:\images\ban-gm-pgr3.png
VideoPath=game:\videos\pgr3.wmv
RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_E.png
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Title=Call of Duty 2
Developer=Activision
Publisher= Activision
ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=0
Description=Infinity Ward returns with more cinematic intensity and chaos than ever before, in World War II's most climactic battles. Join your squad and choose your single-player missions, or go online for intense multiplayer action.
FullDescriptionFile=cod2.txt
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RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_T.png
RatingText=Blood, Mild Language, Violence

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Developer=Ubisoft
Publisher=Ubisoft
ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=1
Description=PLAY AS MAN. PLAY AS KONG. Embark on an epic adventure created in collaboration with Academy Award®-winning director, Peter Jackson and based on the Universal Pictures film.
FullDescriptionFile=kingkong.txt
IconPath=game:\images\gtn-kingkong.png
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RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_T.png
RatingText=Blood, Violence

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Developer=Rare Ltd.
Publisher=MS Game Studios
ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=0
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FullDescriptionFile=pdz.txt
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BannerPath=game:\images\ban-gm-pdz.png
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RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_RP.png

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ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=0
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RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_E.png
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;FullDescriptionFile=quake4.txt
;IconPath=game:\images\gtn-quake.png
;ImagePath=game:\images\mta-gm-quake.png
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;RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_M.png
;RatingText=Blood and Gore; Intense Violence; Strong Language

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ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=2
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Developer=Atari
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ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=3
Description=The first persistent, massively multi-player online racing game! Drive the most sophisticated vehicles and challenge players online on more than 1000 miles of open Hawaiian roads.
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RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_E.png
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Developer=Bethesda Softworks/2K Games
Publisher=Bethesda Softworks/2K Games
ConsoleTypeFlags=0
GenreIndex=4
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;GenreIndex=0
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;RatingText=Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Strong Language

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Publisher=SEGA
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GenreIndex=3
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BannerPath=game:\images\ban-gm-fullauto.png
ImagePath=game:\images\mta-gm-fullauto.png
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Even some nice video's from Gears Of Ware are listed in the movies directory, and some xbox 1 games. And even a movie that shows the wmv hd logo called t2.wmv

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Oner on December 27, 2005, 04:59:00 PM

QUOTE(jamie123 @ Dec 27 2005, 06:45 PM)

who says xbox live will be gone once xbox 360 is hacked, with the original you coudl use xbox live and a hacked bios, i'm sure someone will find a way
but please, someone answer my question, how does this help the homebrew scene, i get it, that the xex files are not set to xbox360 dvd media check, but how does this help in developing homebrew software? could we use that executable to launch other homebrew apps? or what?

Could you give me the link to that thread I want to keep an eye on it and either remove/sticky the post depending on the outcome (if any). Thanx - Oner

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cyberg4 on December 27, 2005, 05:03:00 PM

anyone know if other game demos (from another xbox 360 demo disk) work when placed in place of another demo in this demo disk (basically do the other game demos not on this disk have a media flag ie. fullauto from the last oxm disk)? anyone tried it?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 27, 2005, 05:05:00 PM

QUOTE(cyberg4 @ Dec 28 2005, 01:10 AM)

I´d love to try and change the ini files and see if i can get them to launch

[update]
I'm gonna try to change the disc within an hour to see if i can get demos running from the oxm disc. I don't think it will be that simple, but you can give it always a try.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MaTiAz on December 27, 2005, 05:05:00 PM

Man, this is getting more exciting and exciting,
We could use that to extend the 360 media capabilities... Imagine a wizard, that lets you build a custom menu, add video there and then burn it... Oh, the possibilities are endless....

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 27, 2005, 05:28:00 PM

anyone know's when i change the cd how to create the iso again before burning?

- Edit
Thanx Tex8503

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: kowrip on December 27, 2005, 05:38:00 PM

QUOTE(jamie123 @ Dec 28 2005, 12:33 AM)

ok, so the mediacheck isn't set to dvd, how does this further help us in running homebrew on the 360 then? becuase from what i'm reading, this won't help at all, or will it???
edit: anyone know? i really wanna know if this is helping the homebrew scene at all, or just a bonus, because i just don't understand how this is helping us crack the box

Listen, it's fairly simple. The game ISOs aren't very useful because they have a media check. So, even if we were to burn the ISO to a DVD-R, it wouldn't run. However, in this case, the media flag is set to accept recorable media (DVD+/-R). That means we can alter the ISO and burn a new one. The XEXs wouldn't be altered so their signatures would still be valid. However, if the XEX files use any of the other data files, there is a possibility to exploit something ..... similar to how the font exploit worked. I have no idea what the chances are, but we're all curious ............. aren't we ?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: su_root on December 27, 2005, 05:53:00 PM

quick question,

whats the quickest/best program to use to rebuild the iso after making changes?

thanks!

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: stanneh on December 27, 2005, 04:50:00 PM

QUOTE(su_root @ Dec 28 2005, 01:00 AM)

quick question,

whats the quickest/best program to use to rebuild the iso after making changes?

thanks!

Apparently you dont have to make an iso just burn the files to dvd as data

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Joergen on December 27, 2005, 04:52:00 PM

WMVHD sounds yummy, infact I'd like to try it myself by replacing the video files with the HD samples from MS download pages.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: limbfilter on December 27, 2005, 05:08:00 PM

Has anyone compared the demo xex files to any off the full game dumps they correspond to?....

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: BasicAir on December 27, 2005, 06:16:00 PM

so ehhhh NEEJOH -- it's been over an hour. what's the status?

*eagerly awaits*

i would do it but i'm too lazy...

yeah, MS lost a potential large sum of money in not supporting WMV-HD dvds.... all they would have had to do is throw in codecs (i'd imagine anyway) and/or something very simple like that. then if they did a ton of advertising for wmv-hd on the 360's and in the 360 paperwork and on the xbox (and ms) websites, they could have generated large sales of their WMV HD discs. i know i, for one, would have bought up dozens of the WMV HD dvd discs.

i bet they were concerned about ppl making copies and getting them to play on the 360, but still - would this alone have stopped them from having wmv hd support in the 360? i don't think so... plus if they put in the work they could have avoided this potential threat.

oh well...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: derf on December 27, 2005, 05:09:00 PM

So let me get this straight does the xex file have the media check flag encoded into it, I dont understand how you can say that it would not execute a xex from a different CD, so can someone explain what the difference is with the xex from this disc to another disc?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 27, 2005, 05:17:00 PM

I'm now copying the dvd over to my harddrive and extracting the iso from the oxm disc. I have the demo's. So i will try if i can get the Full Auto demo working.

It takes longer to copy the dvd over to the hardrive then i thought. And i can't seem to extract the iso.

This post has been edited by neejoh: Dec 28 2005, 01:28 AM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: skierdb526 on December 27, 2005, 05:44:00 PM

Holy shit, i was wondering if this would be possible. I guess if this is possible that you could alter xbox homebrew to work too somehow? or is someone lying?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: youri60 on December 27, 2005, 05:46:00 PM

lol, hehe

a other small question is,
if you play this demo with LIVE signed in.

can that cause a Ban from LIVE ?!?

mostly when you play games/arcade/demo's from marketplace on LIVE,
then other people can see you playing it.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 27, 2005, 05:54:00 PM

QUOTE(youri60 @ Dec 28 2005, 03:01 AM)

As soon i put in a disc that is not legal, i pull the networkcable out.

Status
* Test the Koisk dvd - passed
* Copy the files to hd - passed
* Extract the OXM dvd - busy
* Copy a demo over - pending
* Succes!!! - Pending

This post has been edited by neejoh: Dec 28 2005, 02:18 AM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Tex8503 on December 27, 2005, 06:25:00 PM

All I can independently verify is that the Kiosk demo DVD DOES boot. I can not confirm any other changes or mods to it to boot anything else... hell I don't even think they're possible... yet. I think though that having a way to launch something burnable and get it to run is an important step and will ultimately lead to some sort of software mod. Then again, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 27, 2005, 07:39:00 PM

QUOTE(Tex8503 @ Dec 28 2005, 03:40 AM)

instead of replacing a game, i deleted one, and made an extra option in the ini file. Now i'm gonna try if it works

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: sgr215 on December 27, 2005, 06:45:00 PM

CONFIRMED I deleted the pgr3.wmv demo video and put my own WMV HD video in its place. It booted fine and played the video I added. In other words, you can replace a demo video with a WMV HD video and it'll play fine from disk!

In this example I used the coral reef adventure on MS's website. I'll test other vids in a few.

Already received two PM's asking me for help or where to find the disk. I'm not here to help nor am I going to help you find the disk so don't bother PM'ing me.

This post has been edited by sgr215: Dec 28 2005, 03:02 AM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: pwcracker2002 on December 27, 2005, 06:57:00 PM

i can also confirm that this disc works. i tried it in my NTSC xbox 360 on my lcd monitor.

edit: please dont pm me asking where to get the demo disc.

This post has been edited by pwcracker2002: Dec 28 2005, 03:42 AM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: redwolf on December 27, 2005, 08:08:00 PM

for saving space, can we delete some of the files (i know it's long thing) or make New>Text Document and rename it to same as the file name in the CD and replace them, so they are 0 (zero) byte?

then get a full backup game e.g. King Kong, then replace it in the king Kong demo folder in the cd

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: kday on December 27, 2005, 07:05:00 PM

I found this on another site

- You can't run games by copying their data to a demo folder (duh)
- you can extract the iso using i.e. isobuster and burn it as a standard ISO DVD or CDR
- the live arcade games are nothing but standard flash games.. in fact, you can run hexic right in your browser. however replacing the hexic flash files with another swf file results in the 360 crashing hard (only power off helps), and the default.xex in the hexic folder appears to be nothing more than a flashfile player. while this doesn't help with exploits I guess, it would still open an interesting opportunity for homebrew games, since there's tons of flash games out there.. just gotta find out why it crashes. burning hexic alone on a cdr works just fine.
- for some odd reason, when your 360 is set to german, the playable demos are nonexistant on the menu. set to english, they show up.
- there seem to be a bunch more videofiles on there than actually accessible through the menues, such as the e3 trailers of ghost recon 3, gears of war, etc
- there are images of xbox 1 games on there, as well as banners and icons of various xbox360 games and store chains such as ebgames and walmart[/quote]
Looks like with a little work we might be able to get some flash games to run on the 360 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).... would be a start

This post has been edited by Chancer: Dec 28 2005, 11:48 AM

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: redwolf on December 27, 2005, 08:20:00 PM

ok LIVE does detect the disk (lot of friend from contact was wondering how i got the "kiosk" disk lol)

http://www.redwolf4ever.com
^ my flash gamercard has King Kong. but when clicked get an error

IPB Image

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MicroMods on December 27, 2005, 08:42:00 PM

I have a feeling they're going to start laying the smackdown on people with "King Kong Kiosk Demo" in their gamerprofiles.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: lint on December 27, 2005, 08:43:00 PM

I would imagine if it shows up on Xbox Live MS will be watching. i would be careful. Would be silly to get banned so early in the "game"

-lint

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: AC Slater on December 27, 2005, 08:50:00 PM

QUOTE(sgr215 @ Dec 27 2005, 07:00 PM)

Do you need to change the file name to pgr3.wmv or can it stay whateveritis.wmv?

I really like the idea of playing those wmv-hd videos, that was a huge complaint of mine with the 360.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Dawg605 on December 27, 2005, 08:51:00 PM

Don't know about you guys, but I'm not even putting this disk into my 360 until we know that nothing can come of it. I ain't wasting my 500 bucks over a dumb demo disk. I'll leave that to you guys.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: shooks20 on December 27, 2005, 08:54:00 PM

as long as you are not connected to Live when playing it, I doubt they can do anything

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: sgr215 on December 27, 2005, 08:57:00 PM

QUOTE(AC Slater @ Dec 28 2005, 04:57 AM)

Do you need to change the file name to pgr3.wmv or can it stay whateveritis.wmv?

I really like the idea of playing those wmv-hd videos, that was a huge complaint of mine with the 360.

You have to change the name of your WMV HD video you want to play to one that is aleady linked somewhere to the disk. It doesn't matter which demo video you select though.

I had time to kill so I took a .TS HD video I had and tried it with it. When I hit "play video" nothing happens. The button clicks and nothing loads. No errors or anything too, just goes right back to dash.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: DuckOfDeath on December 27, 2005, 08:58:00 PM

QUOTE(MicroMods @ Dec 27 2005, 09:49 PM)

I have a feeling they're going to start laying the smackdown on people with "King Kong Kiosk Demo" in their gamerprofiles.

Outch, yeah, I'd be careful with that. Pull the network cable and your storage device before trying this...

It just seems strange to me that MS would go to such lengths to secure this system, and have a flag that will allow the console to run (albeit SIGNED CODE) from an UNPRESSED disc. Seems like a HUGE hole in their security system... What were they thinking here? I was surprised as hell when I found out you could download and burn a disc with the updates required for backward compatability.

It sounds like the HD-WMV is, right now, the most promising thing comming out of this, but in the right hands, lets hope this turns into something a bit bigger.

I would like some clairification... the xex itself is signed code by MS, but there is a flag INSIDE the xex that allows it to run off a burnt disc? So, if you change the flag inside the xex, the checksum (or whatever security is there) causes the signature of that xex to no be longer valid, causing the executable not to run? Is that correct?

-Duck!

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ybaig123 on December 27, 2005, 09:04:00 PM

QUOTE(MicroMods @ Dec 28 2005, 03:49 AM)

I have a feeling they're going to start laying the smackdown on people with "King Kong Kiosk Demo" in their gamerprofiles.

shit i dunno about you but mine doesnt say king kong kiosk demo..it just says king kong...and it lists all the game achievments, just like the retail king kong....uhh..i dunno where you guys got the kiosk demo part from...but i doubt they'd be able to tell the difference between the two when looking at your profile..so just dont be online with it..thats all..i guess i screwed up so far..but i'm sure its all good at the moment..i just wont do it again

ok..i may be wrong...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: SMC on December 27, 2005, 09:06:00 PM

QUOTE(redwolf @ Dec 27 2005, 05:27 PM)

And no ban?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: chuxterofdoom on December 27, 2005, 09:19:00 PM

okies I tried replacing the kameo demo with the full auto demo to see if it would work I renamed fullauto.xex to default.xex and placed it in the kameo folder when I try to run it says disc is dirty. lol gonna try it another way but I doubt this will work because the fullauto.xex probably has it's media check flags in place. oh well just have to wait for oxm.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: axess68 on December 27, 2005, 09:33:00 PM

QUOTE(chuxterofdoom @ Dec 28 2005, 05:26 AM)

I believe it does. I extracted the Full Auto demo from the OXM disc to my hard drive in the usual way and tried twice to burn a working copy... once as an ISO and once as a Data DVD. It started both times but said it was a dirty disc..... But, you can see on the DVD Drive Status bar that it says "Play Game"...... Hmmmm.. I wonder where that media flag is.....

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: CancerBoy on December 27, 2005, 09:37:00 PM

QUOTE

Now I haven't been able to locate this disk yet but instead of renaming the xex isn't there a file that points to the file name of the xex. Personally I think you would have better luck changing that then the xex name.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: rs600cubed on December 27, 2005, 09:38:00 PM

anyone know if the themes that can be downloaded onto a memory card are on this disk, or did all the hard drives come preloaded. It would be sweet if I could get the theme to match my hot rod faceplate without having to buy a $40 memory card!

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: unspoiledpuma on December 27, 2005, 09:45:00 PM

Someone has try to change values of the gamedb.ini files???

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ybaig123 on December 27, 2005, 09:46:00 PM

QUOTE(HyperG @ Dec 28 2005, 04:42 AM)

in bold : what you mean you may be wrong? were you banned from xbox live for putting the disc in your system? just wondering . . .

nope..not banned...YET....but the gamerprofile does say kong kong kiosk demo..well...i always have walmart

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Moleman on December 27, 2005, 09:52:00 PM

I figure they CAN'T ban you. The disk has no media flag, so they don't know if you have a modded box, it's burnt on a piece of toast, or if you are running the kosher pressed disk, which IS legal AFAIK. How would they know which?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ybaig123 on December 27, 2005, 10:02:00 PM

QUOTE(Moleman @ Dec 28 2005, 04:59 AM)

my thoughts exactly

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: HyperG on December 27, 2005, 10:03:00 PM

if MS starts to care about this , you might end up seeing fired MS xbox reps that control most of the kiosks . Then again the kiosk at one of my local stores isn't run by a rep , it's just one of the kiosks that were bought for display at the store, so those aren't controlled or properly watched by anyone with high intelliegence of anyone wanting to copy the discs as I know when i worked at the store i'd get every new game that came out and so did another employee friend of mine.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Ninjaman on December 27, 2005, 10:05:00 PM

I was able to find a video where this person has a Ridata DVD-R disc...written on it....Xbox360 Kiosk demo....and you see him choose COD2 as the game is loading he zooms in to show that its a pre-release demo of the game.... not sure if I should post a link to it...as I don't want to get banned

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: CancerBoy on December 27, 2005, 10:12:00 PM

QUOTE

well this might be a dumb Idea. But we know that the dvd-rom flag is not set so this is why it all works.
but the demos are signed. So like intead of trying all these reverse enginer Ideas and trying to make a image of a full game work. why not just try to find the signuture on the game file and sign that to like a peice of homebrew software. or would that be too hard? I just would think that would make it easyer. I'm also wondering if they are checking hash values of the software to make sure that this demo is the demo it should be. I think thats why you can;t make a full game out of a demo disc. Most likely at least. and I do know MS likes to play with Hash Values as far as security. in my AD network they talk alot about doing that with the GP and stuff. so This will be intresting if ya all find a way to make this work

to sign you need the key you can not just cut out the sign then enter it for something else. Been discussed before with the first xbox. But keep brainstorming ideas are always welcome.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MrPhunkee on December 27, 2005, 10:13:00 PM

Who cares? Anyone with the disc can play cod2 demo

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: krawhitham on December 27, 2005, 10:47:00 PM

OK so the only way this is usefull is if someone can create a buffer overrun error (or something simular) with some of the datafiles on the disc and inject new code?

but you would still needed a signed xex file correct? The xex files on the disc are signed just do not have a media flag.

So the only way this is usefull is if someone can write a signed homebew app? and if they could do that they would not need the demo disc in the 1st place

I never used any of the soft mod for the xbox1, but once you create the buffer overrun error could you run unsigned code?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on December 27, 2005, 10:47:00 PM

QUOTE(alienindahizouse @ Dec 27 2005, 09:44 PM)

Banned? Are you freakin kidding me?!?!? We can't even speak of itt?!?!?!?!? What is it....the holy words that will summon all evil onto the Earth?!?!?!? The site says discuss it in the forums....now we cant?!?!?!?!?!
This is total crap, total crap.

If you don't like it then leave. There's an obvious reason why piracy is frowned upon here... I just don't think you grasp that.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Frentic Amnesic on December 27, 2005, 10:58:00 PM

Quick question. if you want to replace a trailer with something else, does it have to be a WMV-HD?

or can it be any old AVI, MPEG file?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: sgr215 on December 27, 2005, 11:09:00 PM

QUOTE(Frentic Amnesic @ Dec 28 2005, 07:05 AM)

Quick question. if you want to replace a trailer with something else, does it have to be a WMV-HD?

or can it be any old AVI, MPEG file?

Id Try, but I dont have a 360, not Can I find the ISO ANYWHERE!

It has to be WMV-HD. I tried a .TS HD video and it wouldn't play and of course DIVX won't play either.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: nstavros on December 27, 2005, 11:21:00 PM

yep i as well have been getting that damn disk dirty error..... i will try more tommrow.. its 2 am here.

"i started modding when i bought pgr3.. and was dissapointed"

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: feflicker on December 27, 2005, 11:45:00 PM

QUOTE

Dont think M$ is this dumb but what if you replace a demo with a full game and when burning the disc set the Booktype to DVD-ROM I would try but I dont have any dvd+r's

That really wouldn't be different than just burning the game with the booktype set to DVD-ROM, would it?

Good news today though, something interesting to read before bed

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: gamemaster14 on December 27, 2005, 11:55:00 PM

I was reading this whole topic and was just wondering two things. I read that you can replace the movies with wmv-hd files but has anyone tried a regular wmv file? I have read that you cant swap the demos for demos from other discs but can you swap a demo on this disc for a demo on this disc (ie: make COD2 run from the place Kameo should be in). Just wondering?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: HyperG on December 28, 2005, 12:06:00 AM

Since the xbox live arcade games are flash, has anyone thought of downloading the live arcade games and then hooking the 360 hard drive to a pc using the stuff made available to read the hard drive and then see if the data can be obtained? Just an idea . . . so we can compare the xex files to what we have now.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: illicitx on December 28, 2005, 12:10:00 AM

I got homemade flash files booting, check it out

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=474658

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Ne0 on December 28, 2005, 12:33:00 AM

Anyone ever think that maybe the mediaflags weren't a mistake? Maybe all demos are like this, so you can distribute demos yourself. Maybe M$ is confident enough in their security to do this. Makes sense...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: chuxterofdoom on December 28, 2005, 12:45:00 AM

QUOTE(Ne0 @ Dec 28 2005, 01:40 AM)

Thought about this also. I don't think this disc was meant for that but if they let you download updates and install them via burned cds then why not let us download demos and try them out via burned cds also. One thing I haven't tried but will in a little bit is burning the demos on the disc on a cdr by themselves to see if they boot without having to go thru the kiosk launcher.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: chuxterofdoom on December 28, 2005, 12:51:00 AM

another thing i figured out. If you open the gamedb.ini file in the (en-en folder) and remove all the semicolon's ";" on the left side of the page then it will enable the rest of the videos that are on the disc. which are quite a few. Most are old videos already seen before but nice to look at in hidef!

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: chuxterofdoom on December 28, 2005, 01:17:00 AM

ok just tried it and the demos will work if you just burn them by themselves to a cd-r. Just tried cod2 demo all the way thru and worked perfectly. I sure it is the same for kameo and king kong demo as well as the hexic demo which is intriguing. Here are the sizes for the demos

Call of Duty 2: 319mb

Kameo:463mb

King Kong:784mb

Hexic:67.7mb

Running flash games using hexic would be great as soon as it gets figured out.

heres to blundersofts mistake....everyone have some

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Guerrilla on December 28, 2005, 01:38:00 AM

Im not really into flash, but isnt it possible to do more with flash then just animations? cant you make some kind of flashbased webbrowser with it?(maybe something like this? http://www.softaward.com/5264.html) or maybe even a flashbased media player?

dont know if this is possible in any way but just wondering...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Wormz on December 28, 2005, 01:41:00 AM

Another idea to throw out there:

Do we now have two demos of the same game, identical except for the media flag, and in turn, the signature?

Could comparing these two shed any light on how the authentication works or where the media flag is?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: LuridSpectre on December 28, 2005, 01:52:00 AM

Has anyone tried decompiling the Hexic swf? Could we learn anything valuable from doing that?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: goboom225 on December 28, 2005, 02:03:00 AM

QUOTE(Wormz @ Dec 28 2005, 09:48 AM)

the exact kameo demo was avalible on the OXM disc... i have it and have played both.. hmm

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: HyperG on December 28, 2005, 02:09:00 AM

The only different demo would have to be king kong because the OXM disc didn't have an exe file it just had a default.xex and a kingkong.xex (exact file name is just off the top of my head, just an example , default.xex was like a 60 something kb file that linked to the other xex file). If the exe file is just a xex with wrong extension , some file comparing should be done to see if there are differences between the media file.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: LuridSpectre on December 28, 2005, 02:20:00 AM

QUOTE(GileS @ Dec 28 2005, 04:10 AM)

I tried decompiling the hexic swf and didnt find anything useful. Everything seemed to be directly related to the game. Maybe others could verify this.

I will as soon as I can. I'll probably do it tomorrow morning.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Ketterai on December 28, 2005, 03:00:00 AM

Someone ought to check and see if FlashVNC can be substituted for one
of the .swf files on this demo disc. It does require Flash v8.5, so this might give an indication of what version of Macromedia Flash was licensed by MS for the Xbox 360.

http://www.darronsch...ives/000192.cfm

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: naoneo on December 28, 2005, 03:08:00 AM

My findings :
You can delete all folders except /en-en/, /images/ and /items/, hex kioskmain.xzp to change "Play demo" to "Play game", also within kioskmain, searching through hex the secnd png is actually the xbox 360 logo shown when the software boots (fun!).
Reguardless of what media its burned to it will boot, cd-r, dvd-r etc, it doesn't matter.
In /en-en/gamedb.ini one can setup and configure the paths and parameters for the demo games, additionally you can set certain flags, such as consoletype, demo path etc.

QUOTE

; ConsoleTypeFlags possible values:
; 0=Xbox 360
; 1=Xbox 1
; 2=Xbox 1 and 360 (though backward compatibility)

In setting up my own game entry and transfering the files from a retail (and compatible game), for xbox 1 to the disk, with the paramter set to consoletypeflags=2, the menu still boots however when you attemp to launch the disk, you are given the error "Cannot play this game", if you attempt the same, with a game that is not yet compatible, you receive an 'incompatible' error.

Additionally, attempting to launch retail games from either the demo dir or the base dir of the dvd-r, (via changing the demopath= value to game:\gamename.xex), results in the xbox throwing out a "Check disk region and clean the disk then try again" style error.
the menu's contents can be completely changed via /en-en/kiosk.ini and /en-en/gamedb.ini providing you have the patience, personally i deleted the entires for all the games, and all the other content, deleted their images and added one item under game, with my own files and this worked fine.

Hexic is infact a flash game, with wma audio, the flash player (xex) would seem to map the xbox controller buttons to common inputs like A, as even mouse rollover still works.

Any attempt to replace the flash with flash files of different width/height and missing a certain segment of code, fails and the xbox freeses while trying to load.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: vydex on December 28, 2005, 03:16:00 AM

This is all intersting news, but excuse me for being paranoid and thinking the rest of you are pretty naive, but has anyone actually considered the possibility that this was a lets say "deliberate" mistake by ms.

Could it not be argued that with the release of this disk and people from all over seeing it go to thinking "omg 360 is on its way to being hacked, i think i will go buy one" And also consider that big brother on the 360 is watching those who are playing the disk while signed into xbox live. Now dont get me wrong here im sure the more astute of you have unpluged your network cables from the back of your 360?? Am i right in thinking this??.

But I think you get my point, I can see Allard and Gates over a beer in bar somewhere saying
"Hey Bill lets throw some fish at the hackers and see what they make of it!And oh yeah see if they come up with any more interesting homebrew apps we can steal for ourselves to make more profit he he"

Im sorry if I seem to be the pessimist here but this does seem a little too good to be true, im not debating the fact that the disk works from what I have read so far its pretty plain to see that it does, however when things are or seem to be too good to be true they often end up being something completely insanitory.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: zandy1 on December 28, 2005, 03:19:00 AM

Would it be a good idea to create a new profile not linked to xbox live and be signed in with your new profile when using this disc. You could disconnect the network cable and delete the new profile afterwards which would pretty much make the use of this disc invisible would it not? This way at least the kiosk demo disc wouldn't show up in your main xbox live gamer profile. Or is removing the HDD and disconnecting the network cable good enough, I don't really see how it the use of this disc can show up in your profile if you disconnect the HDD and network cable surely?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: JoCamel on December 28, 2005, 04:53:00 AM

You´ll probably know that already...
If you have a look at the file gamedb.ini in the folder de-de, you´ll see, why the demos aren´t playable with german language active... just because they aren´t listed in the gamedb.ini....

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Torx-T3D on December 28, 2005, 05:11:00 AM

they're gonna have us just like the 360 logo.

RUNNING IN CIRCLES.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: nickman on December 28, 2005, 05:53:00 AM

Got to ask one thing. But isn't it possible to put a memory card in the demo booths. Wouldn't that also be shown on the gamercard if you put that card in your 360 when you get home ?
If so then MS cant trace wich have run the game at home or at the shop.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: hamwbone on December 28, 2005, 07:31:00 AM

next mod up, external hard drive switch.... ON for normal use, OFF for WMVHD use

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Chancer on December 28, 2005, 08:58:00 AM

Do Not post fake Boot disc NFO files either.
And Hack_Bird if you are having trouble understanding what was said by Leppper earlier you will be getting a reminder shortly if you keep up the sort of posts that were made invisible

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Joergen on December 28, 2005, 09:00:00 AM

About the consipracy theories. If these demos were available on live marketplace (LIKE THEY SHOULD) most people would have no interest in this disc. The average joe just wants to play the demos, and the same goes for the full auto demo.

I think its almost sad enough to make me cry to think this time I thought we could get all these demos off live legally and not needing to pirate ANYTHING for my new 360 but MS sure is doing their best to make this happen with screwups and holding back the demos.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: BasicAir on December 28, 2005, 09:11:00 AM

"Chancer" I am just wondering why you claim it's 'Fake' -- What have you heard? I am curious because I want to know if it really is fake or not.

I just realized yet another 'new' Kiosk-related release has popped up today. Since someone earlier posted a release name for this original "PI" kiosk disc that this thread is mainly for, I think it's okay for me to post this:

Selfboot_Util_READNFO_XBOX360-L0sMaN0L0S

And the earlier release today:

XBOX.360.Boot.Disk.Edited.NTSC.READNFO-LiThIuM

Again, if this is against forum rules for any reason then this hasn't been made clear as people have been posting other release names in here before. So if it is not allowed, I am sorry. I understand now nfo information is not allowed as you deleted that so I won't post nfo information again.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Chancer on December 28, 2005, 09:12:00 AM

QUOTE

"Chancer" I am just wondering why you claim it's 'Fake'

Simple I have been closing/moving to garbage/ etc threads on the exact same thing for hours all full of users who have tried this.
The disc aint going to let you boot backups as per the dreamcast days. If you know different show me proof

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: BasicAir on December 28, 2005, 09:19:00 AM

QUOTE(Chancer @ Dec 28 2005, 05:19 PM)

Nope.. I don't know anything about these new releases that claim to let you play backups, other than the nfo's and what they state.

I didn't know that there were other forum posts on them because I have just woken up and haven't checked out the other threads. Then again I would have figured that someone would have said something in this thread by now, too, so since there wasn't I figured it was still relatively 'new' news. I suppose I was wrong.

So, with that said, these new releases are essentially junk then, eh? That sucks... Maybe they're meant for a different-region Xbox 360? i.e. NTSC-J or PAL?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Chancer on December 28, 2005, 09:30:00 AM

QUOTE

All i can say is ENOUGH WITH THE SPANISH APRIL FOOLS DAY, PLEASE STOP! , all these fake boot-disk posts are playing with my head.

Excellently put.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ksteiner on December 28, 2005, 09:46:00 AM

what about the exe files, its pretty odd why wouldnt be an xex file , ms put it there for a reason. Since this is an exe file then we could probly run it on a pc.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: excy on December 28, 2005, 10:42:00 AM

QUOTE(ksteiner @ Dec 28 2005, 06:53 PM)

what about the exe files, its pretty odd why wouldnt be an xex file , ms put it there for a reason. Since this is an exe file then we could probly run it on a pc.

They could have named it a .jpg file if they liked and it wouldn't mean it was a picture, would it? File extensions don't dictate the contents of a file.

It's probably just a normal xbox 360 (.xex) executable program with a different extension.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jungec on December 28, 2005, 10:43:00 AM

i tried the the new default.xex on its own. didn't boot. I am going to replace the kiosk disk with the new default.xex and test. will report back

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MrDarkflame on December 28, 2005, 11:04:00 AM

QUOTE(JoCamel @ Dec 28 2005, 12:20 PM)

In those fake boot images there´s a file default.xex (10.821.632 byte) and a gif file.

Didn´t try it on X360 yet

Other thing: Know n e thing about Livevision? In the images folder there´s a file called rel-LiveVision-01.png whitch shows a cam and a TEMP mark on it.... In the video folder there´s a promovideo with a samsung HDTV, which has the same cam on top.....

As far as I know, it could be referring to their webcam service they're supposedly adding in "spring 2006"

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cmay227 on December 28, 2005, 11:16:00 AM

does anyone know why on the oxm disc demos thier are 2 xex files, a default and (game name) xex. yet on the kiosk disc demos thier is only one?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: JoBlo69 on December 28, 2005, 11:43:00 AM

has anyone eather confirmed or not that the demos on the latest xbox 360 demo disk has a media check or not???

It would be interesting to see if the demos from the xbox mag disk can be placed into the kiosk disk.........

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MaTiAz on December 28, 2005, 11:52:00 AM

QUOTE(bios @ Dec 28 2005, 08:57 PM)

So if the menu is configable and it's possible to view hd, does that mean i can watch a custom 'lost' dvd on a 360???

Yeah, if it's in WMV HD format. Just make a WMV HD video, and replace some of the videos with your own

EDIT: Yeah babe, found it

(don't ask from me where to find it though)

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: hurlamania on December 28, 2005, 11:59:00 AM

QUOTE(MaTiAz @ Dec 28 2005, 07:59 PM)

Yeah, if it's in WMV HD format. Just make a WMV HD video, and replace some of the videos with your own

EDIT: Yeah babe, found it

(don't ask from me where to find it though)

If you edit the kiosks ini you can totaly relink to whatever you want add a logo ect...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: mokumba on December 28, 2005, 12:04:00 PM

Slowly the xbox360 is getting hacked

This disk is a great advantage, and I see a mod for next year.Cant wait to play the emus in hdtv!! If it wasnt for "the scene"...M$ wouldnt have had all the ideas they have now for the xbox360..media center.....downloadable ROMS from xbox live for old games...And what possible money does M$ lose from people who mod their systems?? Not everybody knows about "modding". Anyway I know C & linux so Ima take a look at this disk and see what exploits it may have

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Guerrilla on December 28, 2005, 12:26:00 PM

isnt it possible to just add more themes to the disk and install them through it? would be great to finally make my own...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: hurlamania on December 28, 2005, 01:20:00 PM

QUOTE(Gerry91 @ Dec 28 2005, 11:43 AM)

Can someone please confirm that if I was to remove all of the videos on the kiosk disc and all of the demos excpet Call of Duty that the disk woudl boot.

it will

QUOTE(Guerrilla @ Dec 28 2005, 02:33 PM)

isnt it possible to just add more themes to the disk and install them through it? would be great to finally make my own...

you can add 1 more as i talked of in my past post, it is on the disk already but not accesible the way it is as for adding more it is set up where if you have the file (no extention you could do it or add ones from other discs ) there are 2 more japanees ones but arnt on that disc mabey someone from japan has access to a disc with them on there they are water and pink.

if someone finds out how to make the files them you should be able to poip them on and edit the ini for them.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Bizquick on December 28, 2005, 02:29:00 PM

I bet the group doesn't even have a 360 to test with. I also belive that few groups even have a 360. Once the shortages are down I bet we will see more things. I think the best thing we can hope for from this disc is a Flash FTP sever or some sort of Flash Application that will do somthing. Maybe a way to make new skins or somthing might come from this. And that might be what MS wanted. Us to make that so they don't have to pay someone else to do the work. I don't think MS is going to get caught with a way to make a boot disc as easy as the dreamcast days. besides you would also need to find away to disable the bios's reset to dash after opening the dvd tray right? and that might have to be a hardware change or bios change. I also doubt there will be multi disc games sense it suports dvd9. I mean the day it does I'm sure MS will release a BIOS update thur live or the game that has more than 1 disc will have a way to update it. I'm not much or a programer so I'm not going to mess to much with this. But creating new skins for this would be cool I wonder if thoes are signed and how we could make our own if they are not.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cmay227 on December 28, 2005, 02:41:00 PM

ok itried something with the demo disc to see if i could get the demos off the oxm demo disc to work by placing them in the kiosk disc. failed. i then tried placing the oxm demos into the kiosk disc again but this time i deleted the default .xex file and replaced the kameo.xex file with the default .xex file from the kiosk kameo demo and it booted right up . this maybe old news and I'm a noob at this stuff . so the dvd check is in the xex file , and i guess thier is no way to alter it? just thought I'd try something to give my 2 cents.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: skyypunk on December 28, 2005, 02:45:00 PM

QUOTE(cmay227 @ Dec 28 2005, 04:48 PM)

can you reword that? it gets confusing...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: sebaliseb on December 28, 2005, 02:47:00 PM

QUOTE(axess68 @ Dec 28 2005, 12:53 PM)

Yep. I wasted 2 DVD's on this using two methods.. Complete fake. Someone should find those guys and flog them mercilessly.

Why do you need to find them ,their URL is in the release:

www.infinitymods.com

They just did that so people will order from them , i mean stupid one, as 80% are stupid, and 20% will hate them, they simply expect 20% to not say anything, and 80% to visit and may be buy.

Seems like crap spidergx way of doing

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: wildlele on December 28, 2005, 02:51:00 PM

QUOTE(Bizquick @ Dec 28 2005, 04:36 PM)

I also doubt there will be multi disc games sense it suports dvd9. I mean the day it does I'm sure MS will release a BIOS update thur live or the game that has more than 1 disc will have a way to update it

Are you kidding me there won't be multiple disc games? The games are already almost filling a DVD9 due to high resolution textures. To quote the opinion of developer Team Ninja's Tomonobu Itagaki:

The problem, in Itagaki's mind, is with the choice of storage medium, two layer DVD. Itagaki believes one reason MS went with the 9.4 gigabyte DVD format for Xbox 360 is that American and European developers use real time movies. Japanese developers like to use pre-rendered videos, and may feel a bit uneasy about the storage, especially with the space required for high definition videos (Itagaki makes a side comment that Team Ninja was originally going to distribute the E3 Dead or Alive 4 trailer as an uncompressed high definition 2 gigabyte movie file).

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cmay227 on December 28, 2005, 02:54:00 PM

ok sorry about the wording. the oxm demos have 2 xex files. the kiosk demos only have 1 xex file, like in the kameo demo in oxm disc i deleted the smaller of the 2 xex files which was default xex, the other is named kameo.xex well i then replaced the kameo xex file with the default.xex file from the kiosk demo kameo and then transfered the kameo demo into the demos section in the kiosk demo and it worked. maybe a useless thing to try but i'm new at this so sorry if this was useless to post , it was something to try and see what happed.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: StormLord on December 28, 2005, 03:04:00 PM

QUOTE(hurlamania @ Dec 28 2005, 08:04 PM)

Some of you may now there are 4 themes to download from the disc to a memorycard, but actually there are 5 on the disc if you mod the ini in the en-en folder you can make the 5th one show up it is a theme for japan only called Sun... if anyone is interested i can get you the instructions.

could you pm me or post it please

thanks

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 28, 2005, 03:08:00 PM

An update from me: (had to work this day)

Last night i added the oxm full auto to the disc, and deleted kameo. I added extra info to the ini file, and it shows up in the menu. When i try to launch it it gives me the error, about region code, or maybe dirty disc. Ill try some further but i don't think i can get it run.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: gehx on December 28, 2005, 03:09:00 PM

QUOTE(swanlee @ Dec 28 2005, 01:27 PM)

The King Kong Demo for the 360 is in this months OXM so is Kameo, I wouldn't worry about that showing up in your game profile.

So what do you make of this:

Most Recent Game and Achievements
King Kong Kiosk Demo

taken from a gamer profile @ xbox.com

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: xecuterbox on December 28, 2005, 04:03:00 PM

I guesse you cant FF or RW the videos on the kiosk disc

Even if this doesnt provide exploit to the 360 I bet it will be a handy Multi disc menu for launching several homebrew once 360 is modded

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 28, 2005, 04:28:00 PM

QUOTE(Wallow @ Dec 29 2005, 12:27 AM)

Now I haven't tried this and this is my first post here so I really hope I'm not making a fool of myself hehe, but for all the people that are worrying about getting banned from live using this demo cd...isn't that solvable by just creating an offline profile and using the demo with it? that way your live profile will be safe...right?

Just unplug the networkcable.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Daveid on December 28, 2005, 04:47:00 PM

QUOTE(neejoh @ Dec 28 2005, 11:35 PM)

Just unplug the networkcable.

Just unplugging isn't enough, he's right with the offline gamer profile

notice how yours says King Kong Kiosk Demo, it says that now even if you were online when you played or not

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Dawg605 on December 28, 2005, 04:48:00 PM

QUOTE(kohan69 @ Dec 28 2005, 06:52 PM)

cmay227- u replaced the kameo demo from another demo disk to this one and it worked??
The XBOX 360 Boot Disk Edited NTSC READNFO-LiThIuM
and
Selfboot Util READNFO XBOX360-L0sMaN0L0S

IS FAKE
Anyone saw this clip?
Doesnt look fake to me:

http://www.youtube.c...p?v=PlT7hfls88E

That video is FAKE.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: axess68 on December 28, 2005, 05:04:00 PM

Lots of fakes and jokers showing up in the wake of this. I think the key is through this disc. Once it is discovered how the media flag is dealt with, then we'll be up and running.

It's a pain having to go back to the menu system every time I get done playing the Full Auto Demo. It would be able to transfer that to a separate disc (or even the hard drive) and be able to avoid going back to the menu.

Funny thing is, the actual game might be out before it's figured out.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Ninjaman on December 28, 2005, 05:38:00 PM

How about this video?...*STOP LINKING TO THE RAPID SHARE SITE**..scroll down and click on FREE. Then scroll down and you will see a "Download - Ticket reserved please wait __ seconds"...seconds will countdown. Once the countdown finishes type in the letters or numbers that are in colour in the space provided and start download.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ravenslayer on December 28, 2005, 05:41:00 PM

i was trying some things out with the kameo demo that was included in the kiosk and my own kameo rip. I took the files of my rip deleted all languages that wern't needed then i replaced the default.xex with the demos default.Xex and burned it with nero. Result -> it boots but i can only play the first level because at the end gate it doesn't load the video it usually does i can just keep on walking and nothing happens

btw you can just take all files out of a demo map and burn only those files to a dvd. It loads perfectly

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cmay227 on December 28, 2005, 05:47:00 PM

what i did was delete the kameo on the kiosk demo but first copied the .xex file to my desktop, then i put the kameo from the oxm disc into the demo folder of the kiosk disc and deleted both .xex files and added the default .xex file i had copied to my desktop and the game launched, i don't know if this is a big deal but when i looked at both .xex file from both demos they were diffrent from each other.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 28, 2005, 06:10:00 PM

For every Body that want's to use it to watch wmv-hd maybe this might come in handy

Go to then /en-en/ folder then open up your kiosk.ini
Go to

CODE

[Attract]
InactiveTime=240
Attract0_Video=game:\videos\brandvision.wmv
Attract1_Video=game:\videos\accessories.wmv
Attract2_Video=game:\videos\kameo.wmv
Attract3_Video=game:\videos\pgr3.wmv
Attract4_Video=game:\videos\brandvision.wmv
Attract5_Video=game:\videos\cod2.wmv
Attract6_Video=game:\videos\nfs.wmv

And change it to

CODE

[Attract]
InactiveTime=2
Attract0_Video=game:\videos\yournamefromvideohere.wmv

As soon you put the disc in it will autostart your movie within 2 seconds. I haven't tried with 1 second, or with 0 to see what happends then. I assume you can delete your whole Demo directory and empty your whole video directory to have as much space as possible.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: axess68 on December 28, 2005, 06:15:00 PM

QUOTE(Mekapo @ Dec 29 2005, 01:21 AM)

Are you saying that somehow you were able to rip the full auto demo from the OXM Demo Disc and put it on the recently released KIOSK Demo disk and got it to boot? Or are you just talking about playing the OXM Demo Disc?

No, I was saying it would be nice to be ABLE to do that. I hate going back to the menu after every race.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: BasicAir on December 28, 2005, 06:15:00 PM

QUOTE(Ninjaman @ Dec 29 2005, 01:45 AM)

How about this video?....88888888888888888888888888888..scroll down and click on FREE. Then scroll down and you will see a "Download - Ticket reserved please wait __ seconds"...seconds will countdown. Once the countdown finishes type in the letters or numbers that are in colour in the space provided and start download.

OH MY.. I just wasted 10 minutes downloading and watching this. Why didn't you make it clear this was just a video of the kiosk disc working? I was thinking this was some other video showing something useful but it was a waste of my time.

Should have said -- "This video just shows how the demo disc loads" because to ppl with the disc this video is pointless. No offense, though.. :|

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: bradmeyers on December 28, 2005, 06:16:00 PM

just out of curiosity are there any good wmvhd movies to play? I don't see anything other than imax crap and a couple of movie trailers. am I missing something?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cmay227 on December 28, 2005, 06:17:00 PM

QUOTE(FlashKick @ Dec 29 2005, 02:15 AM)

cmay, that isn't such a big deal..it would be if you replaced the original kameo .xex with the one from the oxm disk.

that's what i did! actually to be more clear i did both put the actual kameo demo from the oxm dick in the demo folder of the kiosk disc and just i tried just swapping .xex both worked.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: BasicAir on December 28, 2005, 06:21:00 PM

QUOTE(bradmeyers @ Dec 29 2005, 02:23 AM)

just out of curiosity are there any good wmvhd movies to play? I don't see anything other than imax crap and a couple of movie trailers. am I missing something?

That's basically it.....

http://www.wmvhd.com/

http://www.atomfilms...lections/hidef/

Of course, if you have any of the WMV HD dvd discs, you can probably rip your own clips of the actual film in some kind of codec to play on the 360... I know you can do this to get them to play with the XP MCE link by rigging it this way. Of course for this demo disc, a full-length film would possibly take up too much space so you'd maybe need to make 2 of these demo discs and swap em (if we ever get to that point but I may be wrong anyway). I don't have any WMV HD discs b/c the 360 doesn't support them by straight playing them (which is CRAP!) If it did, I would have bought a couple dozen of them (probably every one on the market).

Since it's said that you can't pause, ff, or rw them, however on this demo disc - I think I'm just going to forget about it. That's just me, though. I get all the demos off Live Arcade and my OXM subscription as it is already plus I don't care about any other current possibility this demo disc has so I have yet to burn it and throw it in.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: BasicAir on December 28, 2005, 06:32:00 PM

QUOTE(poomobile @ Dec 29 2005, 02:34 AM)

I think there is some hd porn floating around out there....I wonder if these would work:

http://www.widescreen.net/

They are using the wmvhd logo.

anybody know?

Well there are some other companies putting out WMV-HD films that aren't advertised by MS (and adult-oriented) like the "PIRATES!" one that's very popular. I lost the url to the official site which is a great site but here's one of many links:

http://www.crossroadsedge.com/

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: WiFiSpy on December 28, 2005, 07:42:00 PM

Someone thats too pussy to post these themself sent these to me:

its a proof of concept for WMVHD movies and menus

im gonna email him back asking form more details.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cmay227 on December 28, 2005, 07:43:00 PM

QUOTE(FlashKick @ Dec 29 2005, 03:28 AM)

?? wow! they are different .xex's right?

yes! the .xex are diffrent from one disc to the other plus the oxm disc thier are two .xex for each game one is default and one is the (name of the game).xex but none of the contents match from one disc to another. atleast not that i can tell

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: NoVA iS SiCK on December 28, 2005, 07:53:00 PM

There's PLENTY of WMV-HD vids out there boys, just gotta go to the "usual places".

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: modthebox.tk on December 28, 2005, 08:20:00 PM

the sound files are not 'signed' you can replace them with anything and it still boots to the best of my knowledge.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: EverReadyEverWil on December 28, 2005, 08:22:00 PM

Is the brookeskye video on the Xbox Dashboard... or is that what the menus on the disk look like?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: muerte on December 28, 2005, 08:28:00 PM

QUOTE(cmay227 @ Dec 28 2005, 07:54 PM)

If this is true... release groups will be able to release the demos off of OXM's discs using an edited kiosk disc. I doubt this is true.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: socalbluetooth on December 28, 2005, 08:40:00 PM

Sorry if this is sort of off topic but I just d/l a ISO called ThemeDisc. It has a bunch of folders that have the name kiosk in them. The total ISO size is only 36.8MB. Is this the disc everyone is talking about? Forgive my ignorance I don't even have a 360 yet.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: axess68 on December 28, 2005, 08:54:00 PM

QUOTE(bottomline_2 @ Dec 29 2005, 04:46 AM)

Has anyone else tried that boot disk release? I tried on my PAL 360 and it recognized it as a game but said it was the wrong region

It's a fake, a bad joke, and it won't work.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: stanneh on December 28, 2005, 09:03:00 PM

is it not possible to edit the path in the gamedb.ini to launch WMV-HD from an external hdd?

For instance VideoPath=Hdd0:\videos\brookeskye.wmv

i dont have a 360 to try it but it will save you having to burn a disk for every movie no?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: bottomline_2 on December 28, 2005, 09:09:00 PM

Does anyfing happen if the files are placed on a memory stick and plugged into the 360 usb?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on December 28, 2005, 09:12:00 PM

Has anyone tried editing the demo disk to allow original xbox (.xbe's) to be run?

If it's already been mentioned, then I apologize, but I'm not going to read through all of this crap.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: crosseye on December 28, 2005, 09:35:00 PM

QUOTE(Videogamebuyer14 @ Dec 28 2005, 10:19 PM)

Has anyone tried editing the demo disk to allow original xbox (.xbe's) to be run?

If it's already been mentioned, then I apologize, but I'm not going to read through all of this crap.

You are talking about original Xbox game xbe's right? If so, it's not possible. The xbe's have a media flag just like 360 games have and they are not set to run from burned media.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: neejoh on December 28, 2005, 09:36:00 PM

I tried everything on the Full Auto demo, but i can't get it to work (yet) I added it succesfully to the disc, only when i have to start the game it says wrong region, or disc maybe dirty. I tried the default.xex and the fullauto.xex. Both wouldn't run. That from the HD is a very great idea. Now only see how the hd are mounted.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: field2line21 on December 28, 2005, 09:53:00 PM

QUOTE

Xboxgeek said: I also found this while a sniffing around the disk. It looks like a file listing of the OS files in TSOP?. Not sure why it is in the ISO though:-

CODE
Xenon target system 65.52.238.80 (65.52.238.80)

Drive FLASH is an Unknown Volume

Directory of flash:\

0 File(s) 0 bytes
09/06/2005 03:30p 397,312 bootanim.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 401,408 bootanim.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 81,920 connectx.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 81,920 connectx.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 40,960 createprofile.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 32,768 createprofile.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 2,596,864 dash.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 2,318,336 dash.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 256 dashboard.xbx
09/06/2005 03:30p 20,480 deviceselector.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 16,384 deviceselector.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 69,632 feedback.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 45,056 feedback.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 110,592 friends.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 90,112 friends.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 77,824 gamerprofile.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 57,344 gamerprofile.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 126,976 hud.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 110,592 hud.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 77,824 huduiskin.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 77,824 huduiskin.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 143,360 marketplace.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 98,304 marketplace.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 36,864 mfgbootlauncher.xex
09/06/2005 03:30p 36,864 minimediaplayer.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 32,768 minimediaplayer.xexp1
01/01/1601 00:00a 1,536 MobileB.dat
01/01/1601 00:00a 512 MobileC.dat
01/01/1601 00:00a 592 MobileH.dat
01/01/1601 00:00a 529 MobileJ.dat
09/06/2005 03:30p 409,600 processdump.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 409,600 processdump.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 28,672 quickchat.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 24,576 quickchat.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 29 recint.ini
09/06/2005 03:30p 257,636 recovery.ttf
09/06/2005 03:30p 1,233,340 rrbkgnd.bmp
09/06/2005 03:30p 921,656 saferec.bmp
09/06/2005 03:30p 49,152 signin.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 36,864 signin.xexp1
09/06/2005 04:02p 322,768 sysupdate.xexp1
09/01/2005 05:13p 16,384 testxex.xex
09/06/2005 03:30p 20,480 updater.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 20,480 updater.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 114,688 vk.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 110,592 vk.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 86,016 voicemail.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 86,016 voicemail.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 1,236,992 xam.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 1,216,512 xam.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 36,864 xapi.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 36,864 xapi.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 36,864 xapid.xex
09/06/2005 03:30p 102,400 xbdm.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 98,304 xbdm.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 405,504 xbupdate.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 303,104 xbupdate.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 1,159,168 xenonclatin.xtt
09/06/2005 03:30p 1,736,704 xenonjklatin.xtt
09/06/2005 03:30p 589,824 ximedic.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 589,824 ximedic.xexp1
09/06/2005 03:30p 9,183,232 xlaunch.fdf
09/06/2005 03:31p 92,672 xlaunch.strings
09/06/2005 03:31p 1,318,912 xshell.xex
09/06/2005 04:02p 1,318,912 xshell.xexp1
0 dir(s) 0 bytes free

Thats an amzing discovery. Its too bad no one really responded to this I had an acct a few years back and this post has made me want to post again. Xboxgeek have you seen this?

http://www.free60.org/wiki/Plaintext

Makes me think this disc has the ability to flash the dashboard chip on a 360. If the kiosk ones were just plain old 360s you could possibly flash any 360 with this disc.

Heres a snippet of that page

The following plaintext strings were found in the ROM image. IANAL, but this should not violate copyright, by the doctrine of de minimis (http://www.ivanhoffman.com/infringement2.html) and derivative work (http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ14.html). Please remove this page if this is incorrect.

Processed with strings -t x -n 6 foo.bin | grep -i .xex

a029f (\Device\Flash\mfgbootlauncher.xex
a0b78 xam.xex
ac6d0 \Device\Flash\xam.xex
1cd193 qxEx8E
1d8357 \Device\Flash\bootanim.xex
23c2d8 \Device\Flash\hud.xex
23c3a8 xam.xex
25c2bf \Device\Flash\signin.xex
25c384 xam.xex
2682ef \Device\Flash\friends.xex
2683b4 xam.xex
2842e0 \Device\Flash\vk.xex
284388 xam.xex
2a028f \Device\Flash\updater.xex
2a0354 xam.xex
2a82d7 \Device\Flash\feedback.xex
2a839c xam.xex
2bc297 (\Device\Flash\deviceselector.xex
2bc34c xam.xex
2c42a7 \Device\Flash\voicemail.xex
2c434c xam.xex
2dc2a7 (\Device\Flash\minimediaplayer.xex
2dc364 xam.xex
2e8367 $\Device\Flash\marketplace.xex
2e8430 xam.xex
30c28f \Device\Flash\quickchat.xex
30c354 xam.xex
3142d7 $\Device\Flash\gamerprofile.xex
3143a0 xam.xex
328297 $\Device\Flash\createprofile.xex
328368 xam.xex
5f8307 \Device\Flash\ximedic.xex
688e88 \Device\Flash\dash.xex
689970 xam.xex
90425f \Device\Flash\huduiskin.xex

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: DWells55 on December 28, 2005, 09:55:00 PM

I wonder why the disc signs me out of Live when I launch it... Also, I didn't get King Kong listed on my Games Played. MS getting wise?

Also, should I be able to access my dashboard menu via the middle button? At Target you couldn't.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: axess68 on December 28, 2005, 09:57:00 PM

Well, I tried everything with the Full Auto Demo as well. Somewhere, somehow, the media flag(s) MUST BE FOUND!!!! I honestly believe we can't go forward unless we find them.

The only alternative is a mod chip which bypasses the media flags somehow.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: stanneh on December 28, 2005, 10:14:00 PM

QUOTE(jizmo @ Dec 29 2005, 04:53 AM)

Someone should figure out to what external HD's are referred to in system, as in gamedb.ini shows the dvd game disc is referred as game:\

VideoPath=game:\videos\xxxxxxxx.wmv

This way one could have references to external usb HD's called from the kiosk disk and played from the big HD. Unless it's totally locked.

Or maybe it'd be better to start from trying to figure out the drive name for the x360's 20gb drive. There's a post somewhere on the forums showing the contents of the HDD, maybe someone should try to address those with their paths and file names. It should be something logical, like game:\, maybe hdd:\ or harddrive:\

VideoPath=hdd:\videos\somethingdownloadedfromlive.wmv

i just posted this idea about 20 mnts ago litterally 3 or 4 posts prior to this one?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jizmo on December 28, 2005, 10:19:00 PM

QUOTE(stanneh @ Dec 29 2005, 07:21 AM)

i just posted this idea about 20 mnts ago litterally 3 or 4 posts prior to this one?

Oh, I see you did, silly old me.

That must mean we're equally smart

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Dawg605 on December 28, 2005, 10:26:00 PM

QUOTE(kizmet @ Dec 29 2005, 12:32 AM)

when the kiosk where first appearing did anyone else notice that the actual dash never came up when the guide button was pressed while playing the disc?

Yup, I noticed that. There had to be something different with the system or something.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Dawg605 on December 28, 2005, 11:12:00 PM

QUOTE(Wormz @ Dec 29 2005, 01:16 AM)

Am I misunderstanding or does this mean that every .xex file on the kiosk DVD has their media flags set to "all" or "burned media and pressed media"?

If that is the case I'd have to say that this was def not a mistake.

Nooby question, but I have always wondered this:

What, exactly, is the difference between a pressed disk and a burned disk? What distinguishes the two?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Dawg605 on December 29, 2005, 12:16:00 AM

QUOTE(EverReadyEverWil @ Dec 29 2005, 02:14 AM)

From what I understand there is data on every type of DVD that tells the drive what kind it is. The Drive can detect that the DVD is a DVD-R and so on.

So there's no way to get hold of the disks that publishers print their games onto?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: krayzie on December 29, 2005, 12:37:00 AM

QUOTE(Dawg605 @ Dec 29 2005, 08:23 AM)

So there's no way to get hold of the disks that publishers print their games onto?

sure....just steal a pressing machine and discs out of their factory. you don't actually think you can just pop one of those in a normal dvd burner do you?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: poomobile on December 29, 2005, 12:45:00 AM

Ok I managed to get a WMVHD file to play but with a few problems...maybe you guys can help.

- I extracted the iso using Qwix.
- Then I deleted all of the items of the demo folder and all of the videos in the video folder.

I then tried several times, unsuccesfully, to edit the gamedb.ini file in the en-en folder like the previous poster had done burnt the disc and could not get the video to show up in the menu. So then I tried to change the gamedb.ini file in all of the folders that had one (all of the kiosk folders as well as the language folders) and that still did not do the trick.

- So next I just renamed the wmvhd file that I was trying to play to "kameo.wmv" and selected the Kameo game movie demo in the menu to play.
- Made a new iso with qwix and burned onto a cd-r with nero

This did the trick and the video played. The only problem is that the video played very choppy and stopped after about 10 seconds. I think this might have been a result of the fact that I burnt the image on a cd-r and not a dvd-r and/or the file size was too small (the whole disc was only 100 megs the movie was only 60)

I will try again tomorrow...maybe the previous poster can let me know which gamedb file he edited and if his movie played "chopply" thanks

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Wormz on December 29, 2005, 01:10:00 AM

QUOTE(brandon_r87 @ Dec 29 2005, 07:47 AM)

Second, I'm pretty sure pressed discs are different than burned ones in their make-up.

Here's how a pressed CD is made: first, a "glassmaster" is made from the master CDR, which is then used to make a negative plate. This plate is then used to make stampers which stamp all the zeros and ones into tiny pits on the CD surface ( sort of like how they make vinyl records). The data is PERMANENT. Then, a protective coating is put over the CD surface to protect it from scratches and what have you. These pressed CDs should last a hundred years if taken care of.

A burned CD uses dyes on the CD surface to hold the data from the laser in place. If the dyes deteriorate, the data will be lost and the disc will go bad. The cheap CDRs especially have this problem. These CDs will not last as long as pressed CDs, and also have no protective coating over the surface.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: wmadoss on December 29, 2005, 01:20:00 AM

Dont see why everyone wants wmvhd sooo bad.

If u really want it that bad get windows MCE and then u can stream wmvhd and more importantly .ts streams in 720p/1080i.

There arent that much wmvhd material out there but there´s tons of mpeg2 material in .ts "in the usual places".

Really see no point in getting hidef material going from a DVD since noone is probably ever going to be using it in this way(streaming is the only way to go).

However playback from an external HD could be somewhat useful I guess but still think MCE (or similar) is the best way.

But then again I figure most people are only playing around with this trying to discover something revolutionary and have no intent on using this "playbackmethod" for real

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: poomobile on December 29, 2005, 01:42:00 AM

well...for me I do not have wmce and I do not have a computer hooked up to either one of my two HDTV's so I would love to have the ability to view downloaded hd content via my xbox without having to invest in another computer...ideally, MS will allow xp users to stream video, which I think they will do eventually

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Mekapo on December 29, 2005, 01:44:00 AM

QUOTE(wmadoss @ Dec 29 2005, 12:27 AM)

Will MCE play .ts files that I download from the "usual places"? I was under the impression (not sure exactly why) that it would only play stuff that you recorded yourself. If so i'm just gonna throw MCE on a separate partition and do that since i've been archiving a ton of .TS files for the day I could actually view them on my TV. And if that day arrived on Nov. 22nd and I wasn't aware of it, then i'm gonna feel stupid.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: field2line21 on December 29, 2005, 01:50:00 AM

Someone should try running these files while network cable is unplugged from live.

processdump.xex -------------process dumper?
mfgbootlauncher.xex
testxex.xex
ximedic.xex -------------x-interface medic?

Put each one into a demo directory and rename them or change the gamedb.ini file. They might need the coresponding xp1 to run. Who knows. Most curious. I would but I dont have 360 or the disc, though interesting how much progress has been made.

Field

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: wmadoss on December 29, 2005, 02:04:00 AM

QUOTE(Mekapo @ Dec 29 2005, 09:51 AM)

Yes it will play .ts files if they dont show up rename them to mpeg.
Best thing would be if we could get a smaller "version" of MCE though, like an extendet media connect (with movie support) but thats for later I guess...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: monkeychris on December 30, 2005, 08:36:00 PM

why do people assume the 360s ident is in the same place as the original

why do people talk about hackin it like its the same machine

its not...

its very different...

all you lot who jumped on board with your 1.1s and so forth, its not the same bloody machine... your nonsense aint gonna help....

i'd willing put my rep out that you can beat the protection with this disc in its current state; and if its modded, you still aint running homebrew (which is what XS is about)

all you kiddies after BACKUPS get on the right forum, go look at our asian friends websites, they have lots to talk about...

as for homebrew, that a lot harder than running some shitty silver

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jizmo on December 31, 2005, 10:06:00 AM

Some further notes:

- The suffix in demo name being executed can be .exe too. In fact the name can be anything you can think of - as long as it's the same signed executable.

- game: references in .ini files can be changed to logical drive name d: (dvd-drive), and they still work.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: enixn on December 31, 2005, 11:43:00 AM

QUOTE(jizmo @ Dec 31 2005, 06:13 PM)

so then, Whenever you connect a USB device, like a thumb drive, does the 360 assign it a drive letter (i.e. E:, F:, G:, etc...)?...if so, that would be a quick way to tryout loading stuff (for whatever reason) instead of reburning a CD every time you wanna "try out" something...

someone should do a test just to see if it does infact assign a letter.....I might do it if no one else does hehe

Ok, so i had my ipod plugged into the top (or right if vertical) usb port and tried the drive letters E, F, and G, but to no avail...I'll prolly end up going throught the whole alphabet though

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jcsickz on December 31, 2005, 04:22:00 PM

yay! I can't wait to play MORE MODDERS in halo 3. this is going to end badly. give it up guys, the 360 is fine as it is.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: cyberg4 on December 31, 2005, 04:43:00 PM

Please don't let this forum go to pot, after numerous people stating that they got a certain "release" of the full auto demo, to those stating "2 more hours" before they get their disk it is pretty obvious that you don't have the official disk, and that your dvd reader/burner takes 2 more hours to transfer the files to you computer's HDD or that you have the full auto demo and made a certain "release" for it, (that you aren't distibuting because that too would be illegal). As well stop asking about whether or not another demo/ or a bootdisk work because once another disk is found to work as a "backup" it will certainly be all over every internet forum on the net, so stop asking "does dikhead_full_auto_demo_and_bootdisk_release work?"
Keep it legal, last thing you and I want is legal trouble coming to the scene

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: crosseye on December 31, 2005, 05:20:00 PM

QUOTE(jcsickz @ Dec 31 2005, 05:29 PM)

yay! I can't wait to play MORE MODDERS in halo 3. this is going to end badly. give it up guys, the 360 is fine as it is.

Yeah, last thing we want are more morons that don't know the difference between cheaters and modders. Give it up guy, modding is totally different than cheating.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Olipro on December 31, 2005, 08:50:00 PM

QUOTE(crosseye @ Jan 1 2006, 12:27 AM)

Yeah, last thing we want are more morons that don't know the difference between cheaters and modders. Give it up guy, modding is totally different than cheating.

and democracy leads to war, but it's the price you pay... (also, picking the right leader helps)
but before it flies OT, this disc is seeming pretty inconsequential, since I can't honestly believe they'd be idiotic enough (again) to sign things so willy nilly if they didn't think it was safe to do so

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: feflicker on January 01, 2006, 01:05:00 AM

QUOTE

Yes, but modding leads to cheating unfortunately. It's just one of those negative side effects of homebrew.

This is the most back-asswards thing I have heard in a while on these boards.

WTF does modding/cheating have to do with each other? You don't even have to mod to cheat most of the time... And where does homebrew come into the equation.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: crosseye on January 01, 2006, 10:45:00 AM

umm back-asswards. You really can't figure that out? Yeah, modding has NOTHING to do with people's ability to cheat. Look at HALO2 with all the BS that was found. Yipee a sword and rocket launcher can get me across the map for instakill. How about flying through the sky. So, the fact that people cheat has absolutely nothing to do with modding. Those same people cheating WITHOUT mods, are the ones doing it WITH mods. Cheaters will always cheat, mods did NOT make them that way.
On a side not, modding can be really cool and add to gameplay. Ever hear of a little game called Team Fortress Classic? WTF you say, that WAS a mod. No one complaining about that one. Then again, I bet those people were just trying to cheat weren't they

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 01, 2006, 06:00:00 PM

Was playing about stripping all the images from the skin files and I found that it has all the graphics for the different ratings from most countrys.

i.e. in gamedb.ini if you put RatingIcon=app:\BBFC_15.png instead of say RatingIcon=app:\ESRB_E.png you will get this icon up:-
IPB Image

In total there are 37 rating images.

Not a big deal, but hey it gave me somthing to do

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: assmonkey on January 01, 2006, 07:44:00 PM

lol,has anyone tried to play this while still signed in on live
cause i think i did cause i have a king kong on my achivements
And i dont got no king kong
funny thing is,the picture is diffrent and theres only 5 unlockable achivements unstead of the 50

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: skyypunk on January 02, 2006, 11:32:00 AM

QUOTE(XBoxgeek @ Jan 2 2006, 05:43 AM)

Okay have mapped out the images stored in kioskmain.xzp & skin.xzp.

kioskmain has 85 images:
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2

skin.xzp has 12 images:
Screenshot 3

Both files are unsigned and you can swapout images for your own. Below is a screenshot with the first image in the bridge replaced.
Screenshot 4

Been playing with the theme files and will post back on that later.

Cheers

how were you able to get to the images to view/change/extract? i saw at one point you saw adobe imageready in it, but those files dont directly open with imageready...is there something else that has to be done?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 02, 2006, 02:26:00 PM

They are in standard PNG format. Once extracted you can open them with photoshop or Imageready.

I used a hex editor to strip them out and replace. They have standard headers/footers so very easy to find.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: X2473D on January 02, 2006, 02:46:00 PM

ahhh great,

thanx for your quick reply.

Well i thought id would even be easier than that. Like just change file extension to .png and open them in PS/IR right away....

polite as always

X2473D

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 02, 2006, 03:37:00 PM

LOL I wish it was like that

This is the PNG header if you did not know 89504E47 and the footer is 49454E44AE426082
So if you open skin.xzp up in a hex editor you will find 12 occurrences of each.

If you wanted to extract the first image on the bridge you would extract the 10th image in skin.xzp. This can be found at offset 0x0DB676h to 0x118655h.

To insert you own image you just paste you own PNG starting at the same start offset. Note it can't be bigger than the image you are replacing i.e the 10th image in skin.xzp is 249,823 bytes. So your image must be the same or smaller. If smaller just pad out the remaining space with 00.

BTW the bridge is the first screen you see when the kiosk disc boots with the 4 images.

I am sure there must be a parser out there that can scan a binary file and spit out any images it can find embedded. I did search for about 5 minutes but came up blank.

Anyway good luck.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: MGFox on January 02, 2006, 03:44:00 PM

The one I use is called, conveniently enough, Extractor, and can be found here:-

http://www.volny.cz/nova-software/

Its not free, however, the trial version does allow you to extract upto 30 files at a time. Unfortunately, it only appears to extract, i've never needed to use it for file replacement, but I just checked and couldn't see any way to do it...maybe you can?!?

Cheers,
Fox

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 02, 2006, 03:59:00 PM

WOW thanks for the link. That's a nice app. It stripped the skin.xzp in a few seconds where it took me about 10 minutes by hand LOL.

May just buy that so I can get rid of the 30 file limit.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: skyypunk on January 02, 2006, 07:12:00 PM

well i quick made an app that will extract pngs from the files (though slow at the moment, as it goes through the file byte-by-byte...)

Feel free to use it...maybe i can work on making it faster

Requires .net 1.1
Img Extractor

IPB Image

let me know if you have any problems with it

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: psychstar on January 02, 2006, 07:45:00 PM

I have put together a trial at a Theme file. But I am to cheap to by a memory card. Is there someone that knows how to configure the hwdb.ini file and add be able to take pics if possible of them on the guide. If so let me know and I can email you the file. I will only be sending it to a couple of people that are respectibale in what they have put toward the disk effort. If so let me know.

PsychoStar

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: skyypunk on January 02, 2006, 10:41:00 PM

well i have a version thats running *significantly* faster now...however i have a few more things to do to it (instead of reading the file byte by byte, i am taking big chunks of it...however that causes data to be split, so i have to piece it back together) probably by tomorrow night i should have it to you

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Chris_F on January 02, 2006, 11:10:00 PM

QUOTE(skyypunk @ Jan 2 2006, 09:19 PM)

well i quick made an app that will extract pngs from the files (though slow at the moment, as it goes through the file byte-by-byte...)

Feel free to use it...maybe i can work on making it faster

Requires .net 1.1
Img Extractor

IPB Image

let me know if you have any problems with it

Yeah, it's extremely slow, even on my 3.8GHz PC...

I take it you programmed this in VB .NET because only VB is this god awful slow when it comes to file I/O.

I once did a test to compare VB to C++ in speed so I made a program that simply XORed every byte in a file. My C++ app was at least 20x faster.

If you'd like, you could send me your source and I could translate it into a super fast command-line based C++ program. EDIT: N/M, it would be faster to write it from scratch.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: skyypunk on January 02, 2006, 11:21:00 PM

try downloading it again...new version 1.2...MUCH faster (about a minute it takes now for the skin file)...i havent had problems with it...but let me know if it runs faster for you all too

Version 1.2:
ImgExtractor (requires .Net 1.1)

Change log:
*Speed improvements

Bugs:
*problem with end of file (i think i might be cutting off a byte or so) will work on that tomorrow...it only effects the image if its the last data in the file...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: jizmo on January 03, 2006, 12:34:00 AM

QUOTE(skyypunk @ Jan 3 2006, 08:28 AM)

try downloading it again...new version 1.2...MUCH faster (about a minute it takes now for the skin file)

Terrific work, man.

Now just make it remember the exact places and lenghts of files extracted and add an option to replace the PNGs with modified ones.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: RadiatedAnt on January 03, 2006, 06:23:00 AM

I forsee this disc is yet another coaster

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Caballero2005 on January 03, 2006, 07:17:00 AM

QUOTE(skyypunk @ Jan 3 2006, 07:28 AM)

try downloading it again...new version 1.2...MUCH faster (about a minute it takes now for the skin file)...i havent had problems with it...but let me know if it runs faster for you all too

very nice work man, soon we have customized Kiosk Discs

Btw: here are the Filenames for the 12 extracted files from skin.xzp:

CODE

A-Button-32x32.png
A-Button.png
B-Button.png
disabled-Button.png
X-Button.png
Y-Button.png
img-br-Games.png
img-br-Hardware.png
img-br-Media.png
img-br-XboxLive.png
ico_32x_error.png
glass.png

you can use it in the .ini files referencing like this (gamedb.ini):

CODE

IconPath=app:\ico_32x_error.png
BannerPath=app:\img-br-Hardware.png
ImagePath=app:\img-br-XboxLive.png

or in the kiosk.ini everywhere for imageX, XXX_ImagePath, XXX_IconPath= app:\...

And there is a hell lot more to play with for example the scene-files which are set by the path-command in kiosk.ini like this:

CODE

[Pictures]
; section to configure a generic scene
Path=generic2.xur

And here are the .xur´s available:

CODE

skin.xur
202_GameDetails.xur
206_GameSearchGenre.xur
208_GameSearchResults.xur
210_GameInfo.xur
212_LegalDisclaimer.xur
214_FamilySettingsMenu.xur
216_LegalDisclaimer.xur
218_DownloadProgress.xur
402_HardwareDetails.xur
230_HealthWarning.xur
Generic1.xur
Generic2.xur
Generic3.xur
SystemSpecs.xur
WhichSystem.xur
kioskmain.xur
video.xur
errorscene.xur

have Phun playing...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Caballero2005 on January 03, 2006, 08:33:00 AM

QUOTE(psychstar @ Jan 3 2006, 03:52 AM)

It should be no problem to replace this in the hwdb.ini-file :

CODE

[Entry]
Category=2
Title=MyTheme
Description=My personal Theme\n\n(Press the Y-Key on the controller, to download this theme.)
IconPath=game:\images\htn-fpwoodie.png
ImagePath=game:\images\mta-hw-fpwoodie.png
DownloadItemPath=game:\items\mytheme

But i am not sure if the theme-files in the itemsfolder are really unsigned or without some hash to prevent tampering on them... the five orginal themes (flames, hotrod, silver, sun, woody) work as expected and after copying to the memorycard the can be moved to the harddisk via Dashboard. The new ImgExtractor Tool here extracts some of the pngs but not all correctly. Only the first seems to be a png (guidetile.png) the others (wallpaper1-4) extracted do not work. Since it is a PIRS File as mentioned on another post maybe this simply doesnt work anyway...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Caballero2005 on January 03, 2006, 09:18:00 AM

QUOTE(skyypunk @ Jan 3 2006, 04:53 PM)

it appears to be grabbing parts of the images, then messing up the remainder for larger images

True i was testing imgextractor on the theme-files in the items folder... but as mentioned before, we can extract the images and maybe inject modified ones back... but to get the whole thing working theres a lot more to do, and since its a PIRS-File it has a signed hash in the headers of the file which most likely dosnt allow us to change the files and copy them to the memorycard via the copy-command in hwdb.ini (DownloadItemPath=game:\mytheme).

Btw. you can init the copyprocess by changing a button in the kiosk.ini to:
Button1_Action=DisplayScene
Button1_ActionParams=DownloadProgress
and inserting a new command like this:
[DownloadProgress]
Path=218_DownloadProgress.xur but since there´s no path to copy from it says "Can not copy to memcard..."

maybe someone can try a little more in this...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: PedrosPad on January 03, 2006, 09:49:00 AM

QUOTE(XBoxgeek @ Jan 3 2006, 06:28 PM)

Yeah I saw this issue when I extracted by hand (So it is not skypunk's code

)

The best skin to test is Hot Rod. Out of the 7 images in that theme the first 6 extract okay and the 7th has the bottom cut off.

Now I am not sure why this is as the whole image is extracted. I get a filter error when trying to open the corrupt images. I would post screen shots but if you extract thme you will see what I mean.

The free60 article also says "The hash entry in each struct is an SHA-1 hash of 4096 bytes starting at 0xc000.

If there is not enough room between 0xb000 and 0xc000 for the entire table, the table continues at a different place in the file. The mechanics of how this relocation is stored is not yet known. "

This could be causing the contamination of the 7th image - the furthest down the file!

It could be
| SHA1 hash | 12x4k blocks | SHA1 hash | 12x4k blocks |, etc. Could be the first 6 images all fit within the first segment, and the 7th spans into a new segment. (all actual numbers made up for illustration).

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 04, 2006, 03:56:00 PM

Okay I have been looking at the images that I extracted from skin.xzp and just having a general nose around and I am sure there are functions available to us on this kiosk disc that we have not found.

I think that MS made a general purpose demo xex that can do a lot more than we have found out. What I mean by that is there are images for:-
DownloadTrailer.png
copyvideo_64.png

Also in the string section regarding the mem unit where it says download Item, Copy this item to your memory unit, Your memory unit is full etc. There is a string called Copy Video.

Now it may mean nothing but I would not be surprised if there was an ini file entry that allows small video clips to be copied to the mem unit.

Not sure how to find out what that command is mind you or even if it exists, but nevertheless I found it interesting that there was an image and string reference to it.

Cheers

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Caballero2005 on January 04, 2006, 06:17:00 PM

QUOTE(XBoxgeek @ Jan 5 2006, 12:03 AM)

Now it may mean nothing but I would not be surprised if there was an ini file entry that allows small video clips to be copied to the mem unit.

As far as i could see in all the strings in default.xex, kioskmain.xzp and skin.xzp i think are only theme-related for copiing them to the memcard. As mentioned in a post earlier there are some more scenes which can be activated by the DisplayScene-command in the kiosk.ini. Sometimes this works, sometimes you receive the "Disc is dirt or wrong region" message. You can reference all demos, videos, and images by game:\ or d:\ and the integrated ones in kioskmain.xzp and skin.xzp by using app:\ and the corresponding names found via stringparse with a hexeditor (you have to filter all the x00s between the characters). That seems more or less everything thats possible with the kioskdashboard. I have tried mostly all combinations of other pathnames (a through z, hd, hdd, usb, flash and others), but they either dont work or getting you to the "Disc is dirt or wrong region" message...

so by now all you can do is a nice little KioskDemo which is showing various selfmade images, texts and playing wmv/wmv-hd videos.. playing the kingkong, hexic, kameo and Cod2 demos, showing some simple flashanimations... and copiing the five available themes to your memcard... thats it!!!

Maybe the shaderprogramming leads to somewhere new... (bit frustrated right now after burning a hell lot of cds/dvds...)

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ymgve on January 04, 2006, 08:09:00 PM

QUOTE(Caballero2005 @ Jan 5 2006, 02:24 AM)

As far as i could see in all the strings in default.xex

How do you see strings in the xex files? All I've seen is a few at the start of the file, the rest seems to be encrypted.

There is now documentation for the .xzp file format up at http://www.free60.org/wiki/XZP - I'm able to extract all files from kioskmain.xzp and skin.xzp. They have no signatures, so they are an easy target for experimentation. So far I've found the .xur files inside to be a bit interesting. They seem to contain the layout for the system in some flash-like vector format.

Through a bit of shotgun editing I've so far been able to create two effects - one where seconds after I boot the disc it returns to the dashbord, but without any of the standard messages. The other is that I've managed to push a lot text and button icons on one screen into the top right corner.

Since the format is probably quite limited I don't think there's much of a possibility for direct exploits, but it's a start.

Also, to those of you who have experimented with downloading the themes, have you tried pointing the DownloadItemPath to something else than the theme files? Would be nice if that command could be used to dump any file, maybe even flash memory?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Caballero2005 on January 04, 2006, 08:48:00 PM

QUOTE(ymgve @ Jan 5 2006, 04:16 AM)

How do you see strings in the xex files? All I've seen is a few at the start of the file, the rest seems to be encrypted.

yes thats true and they dont only seem so, they truly are encrypted! But i wrote "in default.xex and kioskmain.xzp and skin.xzp". The .xur are indeed the scene files which determine the layouts of the various kiosk-screens, the .xus-files may be some additional localisation info or effects (like switching , blending etc.) maybe you have found more here... the rest are normal pngs and some wma´s for sound-effects i think. I didnt try to load other files with the DownloadItemPath-command but i think most likely you will get the usual "disc dirt or wrong region" message... all tests so far make me believe that besides ms crafted the kiosk files in a hurry to get it out, they really thought about some security restrictions to open the doors not to wide for simple attacks...

Cheers...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 05, 2006, 01:10:00 AM

QUOTE(Caballero2005 @ Jan 5 2006, 01:24 AM)

I think you have missed the point of my post

I am well aware of what we currently know about the kiosk disc (check some of my other posts). But we don't know what we don't know.

I don't believe MS would build a mem slot in all it's kiosks just for a few themes. I am sure down the road you may be able to download say a trailer for the demo you are playing in Toys R Us that ties in with a movie etc.

I also think MS coded the kiosk xex to be flexible enough for the marketing guys to get all types of media out to users without live.

QUOTE

As far as i could see in all the strings in default.xex, kioskmain.xzp and skin.xzp i think are only theme-related for copiing them to the memcard.

I don't see how "Copy Video" or "Download Trailer" is theme related. But hey you maybe right.

I will have a play today and see what I can find.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: Caballero2005 on January 05, 2006, 04:18:00 AM

QUOTE(XBoxgeek @ Jan 5 2006, 09:17 AM)

I think you have missed the point of my post

I am well aware of what we currently know about the kiosk disc (check some of my other posts). But we don't know what we don't know.

you are right, never mind, was a bit late yesterday, i was just a bit frustrated after all the "hype" in the beginning, coming back to reality or ground now...

QUOTE

I don't believe MS would build a mem slot in all it's kiosks just for a few themes. I am sure down the road you may be able to download say a trailer for the demo you are playing in Toys R Us that ties in with a movie etc.

Could be, i have to check this out at my local dealer (electronics market) what exactly the kiosk looks and what version of kioskdisc they have running there... maybe a tip for others out there: go to your dealer and look what demo/kiosk-disc version they got running...

QUOTE

I also think MS coded the kiosk xex to be flexible enough for the marketing guys to get all types of media out to users without live.

Sure marketing guys want always throw their message into your homes...

btw. without live you miss an essential part of the nextgen-experience... the chat and online-gaming and their well integration (wirelesscontroller with headset) is one of the best features of the new xbox.

QUOTE

I don't see how "Copy Video" or "Download Trailer" is theme related. But hey you maybe right.

Ok so many strings in there maybe i missed the two.. my fault...

if i have a litte time later i try harder to find more of interest...

cheers...

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: danhrules on January 05, 2006, 12:58:00 PM

QUOTE(ymgve @ Jan 5 2006, 06:38 PM)

I've done a bit more testing today. It is now clear that the 360 verifies the signature of any theme downloaded through the DownloadItemPath command. Any change to the themes makes the download fail. (Somebody have probably already tested this, but I didn't see it mentioned yet.)

Oh well, there goes my hopes of custom themes!

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 05, 2006, 01:05:00 PM

QUOTE(ymgve @ Jan 5 2006, 06:38 PM)

Well not all the time. If you change the internal name of the theme then the transfer will fail. But I have swapped out images and got it to copy to mem card and then mem card to xbox. You can even select the modded skin in the dash and load it, but... the replaced image does not get displayed LOL

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: ymgve on January 05, 2006, 06:36:00 PM

QUOTE(XBoxgeek @ Jan 5 2006, 09:12 PM)

This sounds strange. Are you sure you are actually transfering the edited file and not just the original unmodified one? Which skin and which offsets into the file have you tried with?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: skyypunk on January 05, 2006, 10:08:00 PM

*almost* done with the imgextractor that lets you swap images...it seems like the image swap is working, the problem i have is with the extraction which generates the file needed for replacing the images inside. when it hits split data, my locations are not calculating right. after that, should be good to go

whether or not the files will work on the 360 beats me though.

the way it works:
check off that you want to create a png replacement report
choose the file to extract images from
--program extracts and creates report.
then you can modify the images it extracted (or save overtop)
then click on the png replacement button
choose the report file
---program backs up original file, and replaces pngs in it

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 06, 2006, 03:17:00 PM

QUOTE(ymgve @ Jan 6 2006, 01:43 AM)

This sounds strange. Are you sure you are actually transfering the edited file and not just the original unmodified one? Which skin and which offsets into the file have you tried with?

Extract the 5th image in Hotrod to a standalone png image
Start offset 0x03B000h to 0x061C14h
size 158740 bytes

Next null out the 6th image with 0x00h
Start offset 0x062000h to 0x095B4Fh

Now paste the bytes that make up the 5th image into the 6th image space
Start offset 0x062000h to 0x088C14h

Save file as mytheme and place in the items folder

Next open hwdb.ini and change this line:-
DownloadItemPath=game:\items\hotrod
to
DownloadItemPath=game:\items\mytheme

Save and burn kiosk disc to CDR or DVD

Now when you go to hardware > personalise you can copy your new Hot Rod theme to the mem card
Once copied go back to the main 360 dash and select your new theme

You will see:-
Xboxlive guide as it should be
Image 4 on blade 1
Image 5 on blade 2
Image 4 on blade 3
Image 5 on blade 4

what you would of expected to see:
Xboxlive guide as it should be
Image 4 on blade 1
Image 5 on blade 2
Image 6 on blade 3 (copy of image 5)
Image 7 on blade 4

So I am guessing what happens is that when it gets to our new image 6 it fails some check and image 4 & 5 are reused.

Anyway this does not prove anything. Other than the fact that you can edit the theme to some extent and still copy it across.

@ymgve if you have a problem checking this PM me and I will help you out

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: skyypunk on January 06, 2006, 04:26:00 PM

QUOTE(XBoxgeek @ Jan 6 2006, 05:24 PM)

So I am guessing what happens is that when it gets to our new image 6 it fails some check and image 4 & 5 are reused.

Anyway this does not prove anything. Other than the fact that you can edit the theme to some extent and still copy it across.

@ymgve if you have a problem checking this PM me and I will help you out

but what happens if you swap all images? dirty disc error?

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBoxgeek on January 06, 2006, 04:38:00 PM

No. If I change all 4 blade images it uses the default theme images for the blades but the modified themes xboxlive guide still works okay. So I end up with a hybid theme, xboxlive guide image from Hot Rod and blade images from the default theme.

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: xecuterbox on January 07, 2006, 04:16:00 PM

Nice to see progress is being made with generic stuff

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: XBOX War3z on January 14, 2006, 02:34:00 AM

CODE

        public override void Load(string fileName)
        {
            Load(new BufferedStream(File.OpenRead(fileName)));
        }

        public void Load(Stream stream)
        {
            file = stream;
            LoadFile();
        }

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: highdefinitionrentals.com on January 17, 2006, 02:53:00 PM

I just wanted to point out that all of these WMV-HD-DVD titles can be rented from www.HighDefinitionRentals.com today!

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: OpticNurv on January 17, 2006, 03:07:00 PM

I just wanted to point out that advertising isnt allowed on these forums

have a happy ban/suspension/mute

Title: Non Media Check 360 Disc Discovered
Post by: devine fate on January 17, 2006, 06:56:00 PM

idk if this has already been said or helps at all... but rember way back when in the xbox 1 days... we used to have these lil things... what were they called.... linux business card disc... idk... ran Damn Small Linux of CDrs... when inserting this and a DVD containing XBMC (with the default.xbe in the main directory so the xbox thinks its a game) it gives me that error saying you gotta have a hard drive to play xbox 1 games ( i gotta core obviously)... so appearantly xbox 360 thinks its a pressed game... maybe someone with a hdd could bring those DSL dics out of the closet and give 'em a try...

or is it that when you get a hard drive it goes online and checks if the XBE itself is compatible? idk... i'm no expert...

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