Post by: aarong11 on August 07, 2006, 03:42:00 PM
I'm not entirely sure (and please don't flame me if i'm wrong), but wouldn't it be possible for us to re-construct their MS's private key by comparing a signed executable with it's unsigned counterpart?
We could figure out exactly what happens to the file and try to reconstruct it!
Also, I was wondering if it would be possible to modify the 360 to use a different key? I understand the whole private / public keypair system and going by this the 360 needs to know the public key. Obviously it needs to store it somewhere. Doesn't that mean that we could create our own keypair and "re-program" the 360 to use it? It really would depend on where the console stored the key and how strongly it was encrypted.
Post by: bonevichio on August 08, 2006, 05:35:00 AM
QUOTE(aarong11 @ Aug 7 2006, 10:13 PM) 
Also, I was wondering if it would be possible to modify the 360 to use a different key? I understand the whole private / public keypair system and going by this the 360 needs to know the public key. Obviously it needs to store it somewhere. Doesn't that mean that we could create our own keypair and "re-program" the 360 to use it? It really would depend on where the console stored the key and how strongly it was encrypted.
It is rumored the key in kept deep inside the processor.
Forget it - you may as well break into M$ and steal the key; it may be easier.
Post by: PedrosPad on August 08, 2006, 06:00:00 AM
QUOTE(aarong11 @ Aug 7 2006, 10:13 PM)
I'm not entirely sure (and please don't flame me if i'm wrong), but wouldn't it be possible for us to re-construct their MS's private key by comparing a signed executable with it's unsigned counterpart?
We could figure out exactly what happens to the file and try to reconstruct it!
I suspect the only difference between a signed and unsigned executable would be the population of the signature. Comparing such binaries would only highlight the exact location of the signature.
Signing is distinct from compression and encryption.
Post by: ChipMIK on August 09, 2006, 07:39:00 AM
Post by: Mrcon on September 05, 2006, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: Reaper527 on September 05, 2006, 09:06:00 AM
QUOTE(Mrcon @ Sep 5 2006, 11:04 AM)
bit rich coming from a noob
post count != experience, don't forget that. you of all people shouldn't be running around calling people noobs
Post by: ViperXL2 on September 21, 2006, 06:56:00 PM
Post by: Chancer on September 24, 2006, 12:27:00 PM
QUOTE(ViperXL2 @ Sep 22 2006, 01:27 AM)
I have a friend who works at M$ and claims to have been in an area where they seem to keep the original xbox key.
I have friend that works at Tesco claims he manufactured the moon
Post by: mrjkwik on September 24, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
QUOTE(ViperXL2 @ Sep 21 2006, 08:27 PM)
I have a friend who works at M$ and claims to have been in an area where they seem to keep the original xbox key.
QUOTE(Chancer @ Sep 24 2006, 02:34 PM)
I have friend that works at Tesco claims he manufactured the moon
thats ok. i got a cousin that works at a sony plant. he operates their hype machine
Post by: ramtop on September 25, 2006, 01:36:00 PM
QUOTE(ViperXL2 @ Sep 22 2006, 01:27 AM) 
I have a friend who works at M$ and claims to have been in an area where they seem to keep the original xbox key.
original xbox key is no use to us though, plus the key is kept in a secure area, and only
certain people "as in 2 or three people" can use it to sign off software.
Post by: loosechangeracing on September 26, 2006, 02:46:00 PM
Post by: clintec on September 26, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
Like I said, this may be a completely different process for Xbox development however.
Post by: Wolves on September 29, 2006, 01:56:00 AM
QUOTE(Chancer @ Sep 24 2006, 12:34 PM)
I have friend that works at Tesco claims he manufactured the moon
I have a friend who works at Subway who claims he makes the secret sauce.
Post by: Taco Supreme on October 04, 2006, 07:12:00 AM
QUOTE(Wolves @ Sep 29 2006, 04:03 AM)
I have a friend who works at Subway who claims he makes the secret sauce.
ROFL HAHAHAHA THATS NASTY
Post by: Methadon on October 10, 2006, 08:52:00 PM
QUOTE(ChipMIK @ Aug 9 2006, 02:10 PM)
RTFM = Read The Fucking Manual in the n00b´s section before spending our time on a stupid "idea" like this..
Relax. The guy probably didn't see it explicitly stated anywhere, so he used the forums for what they're for: asking and answering. Nothing's stupid about someone wanting to learn. It's taking that same attitude and telling someone they're an idot for sharing their thoughts that scare people from the scene.
People wonder why there's so many pirates; because they're the only ones we don't get someone yelling at when they're at the beginning of the learning stage. Have some patience, and if it's been posted somewhere before, kindly tell someone that.