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Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: kfernandes29 on November 28, 2005, 01:11:00 PM
If everyone is saying the MCE PC does all the work and the 360 only displays it, then wouldn't it make sense that you would only need the codec on your comp?  Since the 360 is only acting as a "monitor for the MCE PC" all the decoding would come from the PC itself and not the 360. Maybe MS has something in the Local Settings for MCX1 in the Documents and Settings folder of the PC that restricts the streaming of other video types. Just speculating......but it does seem to make sense to me. Any thoughts on it?

I've looked through "\Documents and Settings\MCX1\Local Settings\Application Data\MS\Windows Media\10.0\WMSDKNS.XML" on my pc and it appears to be Internet Streaming settings/formats. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. There must be a similar file for decoders/allowed formats somewhere in the MCX1 user settings.

Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: Dannydeman on November 29, 2005, 06:59:00 AM
And what about subs? Guess Subtitles will never happem
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: mkjones on November 29, 2005, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE(kfernandes29 @ Nov 28 2005, 09:42 PM) View Post

If everyone is saying the MCE PC does all the work and the 360 only displays it, then wouldn't it make sense that you would only need the codec on your comp?  Since the 360 is only acting as a "monitor for the MCE PC" all the decoding would come from the PC itself and not the 360. Maybe MS has something in the Local Settings for MCX1 in the Documents and Settings folder of the PC that restricts the streaming of other video types. Just speculating......but it does seem to make sense to me. Any thoughts on it?


You really should look on Media Center specific sites. Find out if NORMAL extenders can/can be made to play DivX files. If they can then there is no reason the 360 cant be modded in a similer way.


Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: Nounou on December 04, 2005, 05:39:00 AM
I speak French and I use a translator but I have to find very a thing very interessant I have do one to seek in my register under the name of "MCX1" and I have to find all full with beautiful thing has you to look at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MS\MediaCenterPeripheral\DeviceTable
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: sp3cialk on December 09, 2005, 03:22:00 PM
No media Center Extender will play Divx... it's stated in the Media Center's SDK... your x360 is only a media center extender... it clearly states that the media center wasn't coded for either the x360 nor set-top extenders to play but what has been specified.  Sorry Fellas..  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by sp3cialk: Dec 9 2005, 11:25 PM
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: KeiKun on December 14, 2005, 03:38:00 PM
Hi !  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The x360 (like all Media Center Extenders) is acting as a "monitor for the MCE PC" only for menu, pictures and online contents (same way as Remote desktop for Windows XP).
But for music and video it's by streaming ! This mean x360 will receive the video (or audio) as it is : if it's a mpeg file the 360 needs to decode the mpeg stream , if it's wmv so x360 needs to decode wmv stream... and if it's divx so the x360 needs to decode divx stream BUT x360 haven't a divx codec !!! (you can see a "missing codec" error) and actually there is no way to add codecs in x360  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) !

x360 can only decode : mpeg, mpeg2, wmv (wmvHD too), and dvr-ms (it's mpeg2 when you record TV with MCE on PC)

x360 can't play nor DVD, nor CD from PC (but when you share the cd drive it works like a folder on a shared computer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )
Another thing, x360 doesn't interfer with MCE2005 settings on PC because x360 use a different session on MCE

I Hope what will help you ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif))

This post has been edited by KeiKun: Dec 14 2005, 11:51 PM
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: scooby_dooby on December 14, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
the only way we're gonna get DivX is if we can get a DivX coded installed on the 360 itself.

I've tested playing back DivX through internet explorer, and the performance is terrible. There's nowheer near enough bandwidth to stream uncompressed video on a 100T network (8mb/s)

So even if you manage to make the MCE machine decompress the DivX file, it will not work. Unless you can find a way it have it decompress DivX, then recompress to WMV or MPEG2 on the fly and stream it.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: ssj4android on December 21, 2005, 05:24:00 PM
Can it play mpeg encapsulated in an avi? Can it play uncompressed avi? Would it be possible to transcode divx into mpeg, mpeg2, or WMV on the fly? Would it be possible to make something like avisynth to do that? Also, can the media center extender play back WMV streams? Can you play asx files? If so, wouldn't it be possible to set up VLC to encode the video and stream it in a particular format? Then you could play the VLC stream on the 360?
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: SilentWatcher on December 21, 2005, 07:28:00 PM
Xbox 360 MCX functionality is locked so it only works with Windows Media Center- not any other video streaming server. Theres no way to transparently transcode to AVI on the fly, and it would be too slow anyway. The closest thing is Videora Converter, which does one-click transcoding. No AVI playback of any kind. it's not so much about codecs as it is about MS-imposed restrictions.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: ssj4android on December 21, 2005, 08:41:00 PM
So, I suppose it doesn't play asx streams then? Try downloading and trying to play this to test. Does the xbox/media center pc even see it?

This post has been edited by ssj4android: Dec 22 2005, 04:46 AM
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: tyraen on December 27, 2005, 01:58:00 PM
Hopefully this won't just be some retarded reply, buuut, yes, the 360 can play divx and crap from a MCE PC.  The MCE PC just needs the codecs.  All I did was install the divx codecs and now it'll stream Bleach (xvid) just fine to the 360.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: enixn on December 27, 2005, 02:43:00 PM
uhh....anyone tried what this guy said?  ^^
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: blueoasis on December 27, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
I have a windows media pc w/ the divx codecs loaded w/ a ton of divx video on it and the 360 can't play any of it. It plays the .wmv though

This post has been edited by blueoasis: Dec 27 2005, 11:01 PM
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: mkjones on December 28, 2005, 07:51:00 AM
QUOTE(blueoasis @ Dec 27 2005, 11:31 PM) View Post

I have a windows media pc w/ the divx codecs loaded w/ a ton of divx video on it and the 360 can't play any of it. It plays the .wmv though


He said Xvid.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: blueoasis on December 29, 2005, 10:54:00 AM
QUOTE(mkjones @ Dec 28 2005, 07:58 AM) View Post

He said Xvid.


Fine. I have both divx and Xvid codecs on my windows media pc. I can play videos in both formats fine on the pc, but not streamed to the 360.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: bin_jackson on December 29, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
QUOTE(tyraen @ Dec 27 2005, 09:29 PM) *

Hopefully this won't just be some retarded reply, buuut, yes, the 360 can play divx and crap from a MCE PC.  The MCE PC just needs the codecs.  All I did was install the divx codecs and now it'll stream Bleach (xvid) just fine to the 360.


Can you provide us with the codec's u used to get this working?
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: wmadoss on December 29, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
Forget it it wont work.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: Avenger 2.0 on December 29, 2005, 12:13:00 PM
Maybe it just didn't fit inside the 16MB flash. Don't forget divx started as a hacked MS mpeg4 codec. Maybe that's the reason they don't want to support it.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: tyraen on December 29, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
Woah woah, ok, I know this worked before, 100%.  I don't just make crap up.  I ended up downgrading my machine though (had 1024MB down to 512) and it sucks for streaming now.  With the 360 connected it slows down everything, something that hadn't happened before.  Also, and I can take some pictures or something, but I know it was working because it thumbnailed all the divx files previously.  Now, for some reason, it can't play them back.

I'm really sorry to have made such a claim and now seem like an idiot because it won't work for anyone.  I'll mess around tomorrow and see if I can get it back to working, sorry to disappoint...

Nick

EDIT:  Honestly, I could've sworn it was working.  The only thing I can see is getting which screen I was on mixed up??  I have a horrible memory to begin with.  But I could swear that it was playing just fine.  This is going to drive me insane before tomorrow...

EDIT2:  Well, my memory MUST be horrible, and myself full of crap.  From the Media Center Extender FAQ, you can't allow playback of other video formats by new codecs on the PC, but new audio codecs can be added.  So I don't what the heck I was seeing, but it wasn't divx on 360.  Apparently... I'm still not completely convinced, but in the meantime, I apologize for misleading anyone (and everyone).

This post has been edited by tyraen: Dec 30 2005, 05:44 AM
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: wmadoss on December 30, 2005, 02:04:00 AM
Well atleast u came clean saying that that u were probably mistaken. Many people dont.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: OpticNurv on December 30, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
no need for divx compatibility on the 360, wait until a modchip comes out for that, but for now check out videora xbox360 converter, i have it and am currently converting beavis and butthead do america from xvid to WMV. it's been about 10 min. and i'm already at 67%, definitly worth a lookin into if you ask me... but that's just my opinion but i also have win MCE as well
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Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: wmadoss on December 30, 2005, 01:02:00 PM
QUOTE(OpticNurv @ Dec 30 2005, 07:31 PM) View Post

no need for divx compatibility on the 360, wait until a modchip comes out for that, but for now check out videora xbox360 converter, i have it and am currently converting beavis and butthead do america from xvid to WMV. it's been about 10 min. and i'm already at 67%, definitly worth a lookin into if you ask me... but that's just my opinion but i also have win MCE as well
 ph34r.gif


Well a modchip is far far away and using videoora works but not good in my opinion.

Converting an already lossy format like divx only makes the quality worse and it takes about an hour per movie, I for one cant stand that...
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: ssj4android on December 30, 2005, 06:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Avenger 2.0 @ Dec 29 2005, 01:44 PM) View Post

Maybe it just didn't fit inside the 16MB flash. Don't forget divx started as a hacked MS mpeg4 codec. Maybe that's the reason they don't want to support it.

But now it is a standard mpeg4 codec. Same with XviD.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: tmaxx23 on January 03, 2006, 12:23:00 PM
Playing Divx on media center –

 Download Windows Media Encoder 9  from here and then Install.

 Put your divx video in “My Videos”  and then open up notepad, in the document write  - mms://*INSERT PC IP ADDRESS*:8080 and then save your notepad file as *name of video*.asx

 screen shot of what your notepad document should look like. (note ip address replaced with X's)

 **for example if your video is called perfectdarktrailer.avi the notepad file would be saved as perfectdarktrailer.asx**

 save the file to the directory  of the video your wanting to watch.

 Open up Windows Media Encoder

 In the wizard dialogue popup box click “Custom Session” screen shot

 In the sources tab change  “Source From” to File and then browse and open up the video you want. screen shot

Use the other tabs to change the quality of the output. In this case we have set it as “DVD quality video” screen shot

 When you’re happy with your settings click “apply” and then start encoding.

 Open up media center on your 360 and locate the .asx file  and play it, you should now be able to watch it on your xbox 360 J

Written by

Pezer and Pro Evolution
And thats how it is done folks enjoy.
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: wmadoss on January 03, 2006, 12:59:00 PM
QUOTE(tmaxx23 @ Jan 3 2006, 07:54 PM) View Post

Playing Divx on media center –

 Download Windows Media Encoder 9  from here and then Install.

 Put your divx video in “My Videos”  and then open up notepad, in the document write  - mms://*INSERT PC IP ADDRESS*:8080 and then save your notepad file as *name of video*.asx

 screen shot of what your notepad document should look like. (note ip address replaced with X's)

 **for example if your video is called perfectdarktrailer.avi the notepad file would be saved as perfectdarktrailer.asx**

 save the file to the directory  of the video your wanting to watch.

 Open up Windows Media Encoder

 In the wizard dialogue popup box click “Custom Session” screen shot

 In the sources tab change  “Source From” to File and then browse and open up the video you want. screen shot

Use the other tabs to change the quality of the output. In this case we have set it as “DVD quality video” screen shot

 When you’re happy with your settings click “apply” and then start encoding.

 Open up media center on your 360 and locate the .asx file  and play it, you should now be able to watch it on your xbox 360 J

Written by

Pezer and Pro Evolution
And thats how it is done folks enjoy.


Hehe read that before.. That "solution" is even worse than converting every divx movie u got...
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: detect on January 07, 2006, 09:08:00 AM
Guys, can anyone explain why the 360 will actually thumbnail the divx or xvid encoded files (by that I mean actually display a frame of the movie in the thumbnail) but not play them? It seems to me the ability to decode the divx file is included but disabled. Unless it is decoding the thumbnail on the actual Media Centre PC somehow?

This post has been edited by detect: Jan 7 2006, 05:09 PM
Title: Adding Divx Capabilities To 360
Post by: Guest_bin_jackson_Guest on January 07, 2006, 10:58:00 AM
Thumbnails are generated on the MCE pc, so it looks like its capable, but its really not wink.gif