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Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on July 18, 2007, 06:54:00 AM

I picked up a NME 1.2 to put in my 360. I thought i had everything installed right and it errors out even on original copy of gears of war. I rechecked everything and when testing gears again it spit the disc out during the game start up and the disc was still spinning (looked like i had something possess my xbox there). Now i get an E65 error. I have a samsung Ms28. My guess is its bricked, but i wanted to see what u guys say see what i can do to fix it. I'm about to try takin the mod chip off complete and see if i can get it back to normal.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on July 18, 2007, 08:48:00 AM

well after removing the NME v1.2 i now get a e64 error. So im pretty sure the drive is bricked. Does anyone know if the NME v1.2 is also bricked and is there a way to check to see if it is?

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: Terriff on July 18, 2007, 01:17:00 PM

Check your SST chip leads (with a multimeter) to ensure the pins aren't shorted.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on July 19, 2007, 03:15:00 AM

Let me ask you this, whenever you are at that E64 screen, does the DVD drive still eject?

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on July 19, 2007, 06:30:00 AM

I dont have a multimeter right now ill have to fine one borrow or buy. I will try open the disc drive and see if it opens with the e64 tho.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on July 19, 2007, 06:42:00 AM

Ok im not getting anything when i try to open the drive from when it starts up to when it errors out. It seems to hang along time on the part were the logo comes up (Probly waiting on the dvd drive).

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: ydgmms on July 19, 2007, 03:00:00 PM

sounds like something was/is shorting.

With samsung though the points aren't really close together and it'd be kinda hard to short something out.
I think if anything, you may have wired it up incorrectly and fried something.

MMm mm can u post any hi-res good shots of ur install?

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on July 20, 2007, 04:54:00 AM

thats what i was think. I don't have a access to a camera right now. I just used an old IDE cable for the wiring. I followed the directions from there website and looked over some of the tutorials that ppl have posted here. Im gusseing i must have messed up on the A or the 5v line. Would his have killed my mod chip as well or just the drive and is there a way to check my chip?

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on July 20, 2007, 01:25:00 PM

Most likely you just messed something up on the DVD drive board.  About the only way I could see you actually breaking the chip is if you soldered it to the 12v by accident! (and that has happened to people here)

Anyway, it shouldnt be that hard to fix your DVD drive.
From my experience, you definately want to check that 5v point and make absolutely sure there are no broken traces or capcitors.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on July 20, 2007, 06:42:00 PM

I saw a tutorial were somebody installed the 5v+ point to the back next to the 12v+ but are why are ppl doin it that way instead of they way the offical way?

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on July 22, 2007, 10:31:00 AM

No matter where you get your 5v from, its still 5v.  People just have different methods I guess, and maybe they find other 5v spots easier to reach than the recommended one by Team-Underdog.

I can tell you right now though that the Ground point they recommend is totally pointless, because you can simply solder your ground to the huge one next to the dvd power cable!

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on July 23, 2007, 11:10:00 AM

Yea the one spots that ppl were saying to solder to seemed alot better because the points were away from the black stuff and was just one less thing to deal with. There were a couple of points still in the black stuff.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on July 23, 2007, 03:06:00 PM

Well if you are still having problems you could maybe try recheking all of your points.  Maybe even desolder them, clean with rubbing alcohol, then resolder them.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on July 24, 2007, 02:50:00 AM

I will try that thank you for all the help

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on July 24, 2007, 11:43:00 AM

I forgot to mention also check for shorts, loose connections, solder spills, etc.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on August 08, 2007, 09:21:00 AM

Ok i got another xbox (i got it switched) Still a samsung drive i had my friend help put it in with me we both installed a old xecuter 2.3 pro before this. He can solder very well. We had everything soldered in we used the instructions from nme site. We checked all the points with a multimeter and its picking up the 5+v its suppost to be out putting. Also, used alot better soldering iron this time around. I'm getting the E65 error with the chip installed and even if i take the chip off now i still get the e 65 error. I used an old ide cable for the wires to install the nme 1.2. Could this have anything to do with that 470 coil? All the points look very well done I'm just having a hard time understanding what could have went wrong this time around with it. Plz tell me if there is anything else i can check or try different.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on August 10, 2007, 09:34:00 PM

Well I hate to say this but its obvious that is must be your soldering job gone bad; the only reason you would still get an error after the chip is removed is if you broke something.  Perhaps you ruined the pins removing the epoxy from the SST chip?  Or maybe cut a trace trying to solder to it?  Burned a cap? Broke a transistor?  Could be anything, you just have to know what to look for.

My guess is its the SST chip.  Thats what would cause an E65 (E65 stands for DVD Drive Timeout, Wrong FW, etc...).  Check to make sure you didn't pop the pins off the motherboard where you soldered at on the SST.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on August 15, 2007, 05:19:00 AM

Alright after getting a different xbox 360 and having my friend put the chip in the xbox 360 still works. We checked to see if the chip was getting its 5 v+ and it was and all the other points seem to be alright also. I tried backing up Dead rising by downloading a copy ( I own the game) that way it would cut out less chances of me screwing things up. So i could stick to the easy part just burning the game. It came with the .DVD file that had the layer break set right i opened it up to check it i burned with imgburn at 2.4x and another time with 2x. The chip wont turn on i get the "Please insert into an xbox 360...." message. The xbox 360 runs origanls just fine, but doesnt kick on when i put the burned back up in. I didnt know if this would work but i tried puting in a backed up movie to see if the chip would kick on and disable the ethernet and that didnt work either. I think i might have screwed up or gotten a broken nme 1.2 chip. Probly broke it. Is there away i could check the chip any farther to see if it is working properly. If the chip is broken can anyone tell me were is a good place to get another one? Seems since the mod chip raid ordeal they have kinda dissappered.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on August 15, 2007, 07:50:00 PM

Thanks to that post you are now going to get banned. Absolutely NO talking of downloading games!  Its in the pinned rules, and the rules also say no cute excuses like "I own the game" or "Its for a friend".

QUOTE(g00se_is_l00se @ Aug 15 2007, 12:19 PM)

Alright after getting a different xbox 360 and having my friend put the chip in the xbox 360 still works. We checked to see if the chip was getting its 5 v+ and it was and all the other points seem to be alright also. I tried backing up Dead rising by downloading a copy ( I own the game) that way it would cut out less chances of me screwing things up. So i could stick to the easy part just burning the game. It came with the .DVD file that had the layer break set right i opened it up to check it i burned with imgburn at 2.4x and another time with 2x. The chip wont turn on i get the "Please insert into an xbox 360...." message. The xbox 360 runs origanls just fine, but doesnt kick on when i put the burned back up in. I didnt know if this would work but i tried puting in a backed up movie to see if the chip would kick on and disable the ethernet and that didnt work either. I think i might have screwed up or gotten a broken nme 1.2 chip. Probly broke it. Is there away i could check the chip any farther to see if it is working properly. If the chip is broken can anyone tell me were is a good place to get another one? Seems since the mod chip raid ordeal they have kinda dissappered.

Anyway, yea Im not too sure where to buy a new chip at the moment.  You should have just made a backup of the game you own.  What you are doing is illegal, and is going to get you banned from these forums.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on August 16, 2007, 05:26:00 AM

Sorry my bad. I saw somebody else make a post like that so i didnt think it would matter as long as you owned the game. But is there anyway to know if my chip is dead?

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on August 16, 2007, 08:50:00 PM

Well you could have someone show you how to properly make a backup, or at least test a known working backup.  Or you could of course try it in another 360, but I doubt that is readily available for many people.

Let me ask you, do you actually know how to make a backup from a game you own?  Its really not hard, trust me, if you made it this far, the rest is easy (tho I think the whole process is entirely easy).  I would be willing to type you up a short and easy to understand version of how to do it.  

And btw, I wasn't trying to be rude or anything earlier, I was just stating the rules because I hate to see people get banned when all they want is help, but as it is, rules are rules ya know.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on August 17, 2007, 06:28:00 AM

Yea im the only person i know that is trying to back up there games. Nobody else wants to spend the time to do this. I know other people with xbox 360 but they havent done anything to theres. Is it ok to send someone a backup to test to see if it works?

Yes i was trying the wxRipper way of backing up the games after i change somethings around i got work without giving me any errors. After burning it and testing the game and nothing happening I tried the already ripped copy and couldn't get that to work either. You talked about the ground solder point and why you should put it on the dvd pin. Would it realy matter all that much if it is still getting ground? I have tested the wiring and they all seem to be connected fine and i get the 5v+ i should get. I didnt use the bigger wires for the ground and 5v+ i just used 80-conductor hardrive cable wires for all solder points. I have heard realy u arent suppost to use it for  the 5v+ and ground but lots of ppl say they did and it works fine.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on August 17, 2007, 09:27:00 PM

As far as the wiring I just used 30awg wire.  I dont think it really matters that much though, I mena I have used even IDE cable wire in the past.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: g00se_is_l00se on August 21, 2007, 09:48:00 AM

since i am unable to find a nme 1.2 chip i found this i found it odd that they would have this in but not any other mod chips http://www.divineo.cn/cgi-bin/div-cn/360-mod360s. I noticed it seemed to be a nme knock off or pretty close to it. It seemed to use most of the same solder points and used the same backup technicians as nme does and disables xbox live when burn media is in the drive. I was wondering if anyone had heard anything about this chip and since i cant find any nme chips around just changing i think a wire or 2 and installing this one instead also cheap which is cool.

Title: Nme 1.2 Install Gone Bad Probly Bricked It
Post by: LIVE Prophet on August 22, 2007, 03:10:00 PM

wow...thats pretty cheap!