Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 18, 2006, 04:58:00 PM
Post by: knodi on December 18, 2006, 07:10:00 PM
QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Dec 19 2006, 12:29 AM) 
Where are all the real modchips everyone was promising on release?? Im sick of dvd mods.. think there pointless unless you want to play illegal copied games.. I want to run homebrew.. I want XBMC v3... 60!! These chips like earth or whatever its called arnt even real modchips there crap! Has everyone given up hope? Come on Xecuter, get a move on!
If your so sick of it go find a way to make your own mod chip. Its not like people can snap there fingers and hack the security of the 360. So please do us all a favor and STFU.
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 18, 2006, 08:17:00 PM
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Post by: Heet on December 18, 2006, 07:51:00 PM
There is lots going on in the background dude. Just because its not slapped on the XS frontpage doesnt mean progress isnt being made.
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 18, 2006, 08:31:00 PM
Oh and yer i agree where the hell did linksbox go?!?!?
This post has been edited by jcdenton2003: Dec 19 2006, 04:32 AM
Post by: tmh88 on December 19, 2006, 02:31:00 AM
QUOTE(Heet @ Dec 18 2006, 09:58 PM) 
Im just trying to figure out how you know what is and isnt being done.
There is lots going on in the background dude. Just because its not slapped on the XS frontpage doesnt mean progress isnt being made.
well im sure if they figured out even a minor security hack something would've been posted in the x-s news. I know theyre working on it right now, but from what ive been seeing the only development going on is for dvd firmware. I just wish xecuter would just tell us what theyre currently working on. Theyre kinda mysterious. I dont know who they are, except theyre somewhere in asia, far far away from me. It'd be cool to get some more pictures of modchips in production. I forget which team did that before, but i thought it was interesting.
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 19, 2006, 05:08:00 AM
Post by: [email protected] on December 19, 2006, 09:54:00 AM
Post by: tmh88 on December 19, 2006, 02:42:00 PM
QUOTE([email protected] @ Dec 19 2006, 11:25 AM)
Everything is possible. It just takes time......
no, I doubt any human will ever be able to shoot lasers out of their eyes....there, thats something that is not possible.
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 19, 2006, 05:07:00 PM
Post by: somacast on December 20, 2006, 04:15:00 AM
but i agree with u , we wanna get a REAL mod-ship
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 20, 2006, 04:57:00 PM
Post by: evilgizmo on December 20, 2006, 05:37:00 PM
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 20, 2006, 05:53:00 PM
Post by: MaxP on December 21, 2006, 07:03:00 AM
i know its close to xmas but try not to stamp your feet too hard.
Post by: smokeman on December 21, 2006, 01:43:00 PM
oh, and my kids scratch too many discs to even bother with a console until you can play games right off the hard drive. Won't buy one, till it is wide open!
smokeman
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 26, 2006, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: grogger13 on December 26, 2006, 11:49:00 PM
Post by: MaxP on December 27, 2006, 04:15:00 AM
QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Dec 27 2006, 01:41 AM)
Just some coal and a busted album
atleast the lump of coal will come in handy.
Post by: MaxP on December 27, 2006, 04:42:00 AM
QUOTE(grogger13 @ Dec 27 2006, 06:20 AM)
i personally wont get a 360 till they create a modchip for it, but if you remember on the front page they had an article about some guy who explains the xbox secuirty and he said there would be some kind of update on the security of 360 on the 28th, so if your looking for information thats what your waiting for.
an extreamly good vid that first one.
it was shocking how many flaws there were with the secuirty on the original xbox consol.
the chap doing the presentation did make a brief comment on the 360 security being considerable tighter than the xbox. but when you watch the presentation you sort of understand exactly how difficult it is to make something secure.
with so many different things happeneing within the systems its not hard to see how backdoors can be found...
the challange is to find em.
looking forward to the next presentation.
Post by: ben1989 on December 27, 2006, 11:50:00 AM
QUOTE(somacast @ Dec 20 2006, 12:46 PM)
i`ve heard from a friend about a mod-chip works with the USB port, but didnt find any info about it yet ,,,,,,
but i agree with u , we wanna get a REAL mod-ship
i herd about that 2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 30, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
Post by: Spigger on December 31, 2006, 05:48:00 AM
QUOTE(tmh88 @ Dec 19 2006, 10:38 AM)
well im sure if they figured out even a minor security hack something would've been posted in the x-s news. I know theyre working on it right now, but from what ive been seeing the only development going on is for dvd firmware. I just wish xecuter would just tell us what theyre currently working on. Theyre kinda mysterious. I dont know who they are, except theyre somewhere in asia, far far away from me. It'd be cool to get some more pictures of modchips in production. I forget which team did that before, but i thought it was interesting.
The problem in creating a modchip with the xbox360 is that we are trying to please the people that use xbox live, everytime we think we are close to hacking it they release an update to stop it from doing what we want it to do (like the latest update with the embeded kernel to detect firmware hacks).
Only way that I can see being hacked properly is if we stop worrying about xbox live like we did with the original xbox where we gave them a choice that if they wanted to play online don't mod your xbox and if you didn't care for it mod it and enjoy the homebrews and other goodies that we have with this great machine; only then we can actually enjoy the true potential of this 360. but we must make a choice of what it is important.
Post by: iiw on December 31, 2006, 01:59:00 PM
Post by: cryptospartin on December 31, 2006, 04:46:00 PM
QUOTE(Spigger @ Dec 31 2006, 01:19 PM)
The problem in creating a modchip with the xbox360 is that we are trying to please the people that use xbox live, everytime we think we are close to hacking it they release an update to stop it from doing what we want it to do (like the latest update with the embeded kernel to detect firmware hacks).
Only way that I can see being hacked properly is if we stop worrying about xbox live like we did with the original xbox where we gave them a choice that if they wanted to play online don't mod your xbox and if you didn't care for it mod it and enjoy the homebrews and other goodies that we have with this great machine; only then we can actually enjoy the true potential of this 360. but we must make a choice of what it is important.
As far as I can see guys he is right either mod or live and with live you get all those need updates lol
That we love so much with HD 1080p and backwards comp but really guys this unit is pretty dam tough to crack not saying it wont be cracked but you have a lot of factors that come into play
and knowing good old Gates he is waiting on the right time to give us that back door " when Ps3 finally kicks off thats if they ever do but as far as this flaming goes why dont the guys that flame start to do some decoding and let us know of your progress as far as Team X goes they are doing all that they can to get a move on this chip and frankly I would not be surprised if they decide not to produce a chip because of all the work that goes into finding that right mod for the 360 lol i guess it is time for Team X to move over to the PS3 side of the world lol
Post by: eatingbabies on December 31, 2006, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: jcdenton2003 on January 02, 2007, 06:30:00 PM
Post by: sphighend on January 04, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
QUOTE(Spigger @ Dec 31 2006, 01:19 PM)
The problem in creating a modchip with the xbox360 is that we are trying to please the people that use xbox live, everytime we think we are close to hacking it they release an update to stop it from doing what we want it to do (like the latest update with the embeded kernel to detect firmware hacks).
Only way that I can see being hacked properly is if we stop worrying about xbox live like we did with the original xbox where we gave them a choice that if they wanted to play online don't mod your xbox and if you didn't care for it mod it and enjoy the homebrews and other goodies that we have with this great machine; only then we can actually enjoy the true potential of this 360. but we must make a choice of what it is important.
Im not sure how others feel about it, but heres my opinion.
To the teams presented with the above problem, do with the 360 as you did with the normal xbox. Forget live for now, and just put a switch on the chip to somewhat please both audiences. Those who play on live and those who dont. If the focus for live stops developers can at least get things like new xbmc's working and other great HD goodies rolling.
That way progress can be made without having to worry about a new security updates every week...and Im sure the teams working on things have talked about this idea. Kudos to the teams that are working on things!
Post by: DJ_L3ThAL on January 07, 2007, 04:51:00 PM
QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Dec 21 2006, 11:24 AM)
Dude its been a year.. I opened this thread in the hope some guy would come along and say.. Hey if got answers for you.. come and sit on my knee and ill tell you all about it. They give me a 360 chip at the end of it!
its impatient and ungrateful people like yourself who ruin the scene for everyone and eat away at the motivation that drives the great hackers who do these wonderful things for all of us...
Post by: jcdenton2003 on January 09, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
Post by: jcdenton2003 on January 14, 2007, 01:36:00 PM
Post by: Eksyte on January 14, 2007, 05:57:00 PM
QUOTE(cryptospartin @ Jan 1 2007, 12:53 AM)
As far as I can see guys he is right either mod or live and with live you get all those need updates lol
That we love so much with HD 1080p and backwards comp but really guys this unit is pretty dam tough to crack not saying it wont be cracked but you have a lot of factors that come into play
Post by: jcdenton2003 on January 17, 2007, 06:55:00 AM
Post by: Spidey29 on January 18, 2007, 10:04:00 AM
QUOTE(tmh88 @ Dec 19 2006, 01:49 PM)
no, I doubt any human will ever be able to shoot lasers out of their eyes....there, thats something that is not possible.
Actually, that one is very possible. If I ever get injured and need a proscetic eye, I will be sure to have them install a laser in it just to prove a point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: Hopeful on January 18, 2007, 02:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Spidey29 @ Jan 18 2007, 05:35 PM)
Actually, that one is very possible. If I ever get injured and need a proscetic eye, I will be sure to have them install a laser in it just to prove a point
WOW what lengths to prove the infeasible is possible.
His obvious point: Can a human possibly ever shoot lasers from their natural eyes, without installing a device?
Wordplay-based points only prove to the prover.
You found an excellent way to throw away precious time though.
If it was a joke, you spelled prosthetic wrong, ruining the (already corny) joke.
Post by: jcdenton2003 on January 19, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
Post by: djboogie on January 19, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Dec 19 2006, 12:29 AM)
Where are all the real modchips everyone was promising on release?? Im sick of dvd mods.. think there pointless unless you want to play illegal copied games.. I want to run homebrew.. I want XBMC v3... 60!! These chips like earth or whatever its called arnt even real modchips there crap! Has everyone given up hope? Come on Xecuter, get a move on!
You have to remember, MS went to town on the security with the 360, Im pretty sure a lot of research is being done all the time. When you say real modchip, you mean a mobo mod right, or a mod that can enable homebrew. Whilst that would be really great, and yea I would love to see that too, you also have to admit, a lot of breakthroughs have been done. I reckon we may be thinking a lot differently a year or so from now.
Post by: DrPepperFan15 on January 23, 2007, 07:45:00 AM
It's almost like I should be saying: "lions, tigers, bears! Oh my!!!" lol
Also the Xbox wasnt fully modded when it came out or the year that followed.... only exploits were conceived at first and then came the production of a hardware modification and this is "similar" with the 360 as it was with the Xbox a few years back.... so just allow the modchip creators a chance to get it right before they just say "the hell with it" and just produce what they've got and we all end up with fried xbox 360's or some other error.... just give it time.
This post has been edited by DrPepperFan15: Jan 23 2007, 03:50 PM
Post by: jcdenton2003 on January 29, 2007, 07:17:00 AM
Post by: SCVirus on January 30, 2007, 11:54:00 AM
QUOTE(tmh88 @ Dec 19 2006, 10:49 PM)
no, I doubt any human will ever be able to shoot lasers out of their eyes....there, thats something that is not possible.
WRONG.
How to preform the eye laser hack:
Items Required:
1 sharp knife
1 laser pointer
lots of paper towel
Instructions:
Use the knife to 'pop' your eye out of the socket.
Then stab firmly into the open eye sockets and carve out a place for the laser pointer to sit.
Now cut a whole in the back of the eye and fit it over the laser pointer
Replace eye in socket.
Post by: BlameSony on January 30, 2007, 05:14:00 PM
QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Jan 19 2007, 01:15 PM)
lol, you guys... I was offered a firmware upgrade today for free from a mate. Told him to stick it up his arse, im not a scummy pirate.
ya.....me either? well not for 360 at least, + i dont have an xbox1 anymore, i cant even figure out how to update the firmware on my dvd drive, im way to much of a plug, so until a mod chip comes out (im in your boat dude) i guess im not gettin a modded console. I really really want a chip also... i want to see some research on it too, would be cool to read.
Post by: PhunkyGam3r on January 31, 2007, 01:28:00 PM
Post by: No_Name on January 31, 2007, 03:04:00 PM
Seriously if it was that easy this topic would not exist.
Post by: belke on January 31, 2007, 07:07:00 PM
Post by: luther349 on February 01, 2007, 04:26:00 AM
and if it is another year befor a modchip is made my warrenty will be up and i whont have a problem opning it. for now i whontdare open my xbox 360 couse i dontwanna void the warrenty. a usb modchip would friggen own they did make one for the ps2 i think. perhaps where going abought modding the wrong way maybe insteed of tryingto bypass the securty maybewe can finda weakness in it maybe a swap type mod like ps2s.
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Post by: understood on February 01, 2007, 11:58:00 AM
I've pretty much given up waiting for XBMC360 just because I think MS have really thought the security through this time. Original Xbox on x86 was such a mistake for them.
BTW, it's funny how MS basically followed the recommendations the Xbox-Linux guys made. One of them was to divide the community into homebrew, backups, and modchips; instead of letting one exploit compromise the whole system, firmware mods seem to satisfied a part of the community.
This post has been edited by understood: Feb 1 2007, 07:59 PM
Post by: DrPepperFan15 on February 16, 2007, 12:11:00 AM
Talking about it makes me want to stop modding the 360 altogether since nobody has ever even mentioned the chip whatsoever but as from my other post in this topic I guess just waiting to see what will be done is the best possible solution but until then... firmware mods are the greatest thing that has come along so far.
I dont even have a flashed firmware on my 360.... just xcm clear case, talismoon whisper fan and 4" cathodes and I'm happy... Until a chip comes along then I'll do some serious hardware modifications but otherwise if nothing shows up then I guess it's off to the backup situation as it was with my xbox 1
I also would just like to know why nothing is being said about the modchip development or even reesearch at that by Xecuter or Xenium etc... maybe they arent even trying and just thinking that it's a joke taht we think theyre creating a chip?
Post by: jcdenton2003 on February 20, 2007, 07:48:00 AM
What ever happended to that 360 security presentation? Also that king Kong hacker at that conference?
JC
Post by: Nubbs on February 20, 2007, 08:05:00 AM
Post by: jman 31 on February 26, 2007, 02:02:00 PM
Jman
Post by: clevx on February 26, 2007, 06:51:00 PM
QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Dec 19 2006, 03:39 AM)
This guy knows what im on about! Ever thaught they might not be possible to mod?
They said the same thing about PSX mods, gameboy and N64 emulators and a host of other stuff...it will be modded completely, it's just a matter of time. Their time, not ours, so chill and enjoy the fact the people exist and do things you cannot do. That's how I see it...even if I have to wait awhile.
I have no doubt that the people doing these modifications are just as smart (and I would argue in some cases, smarter) then those creating the consoles.
Post by: DrPepperFan15 on February 27, 2007, 05:53:00 AM
Post by: Party Animal on February 27, 2007, 07:34:00 PM
QUOTE(clevx @ Feb 26 2007, 05:58 PM)
They said the same thing about PSX mods, gameboy and N64 emulators and a host of other stuff...it will be modded completely, it's just a matter of time. Their time, not ours, so chill and enjoy the fact the people exist and do things you cannot do. That's how I see it...even if I have to wait awhile.
I have no doubt that the people doing these modifications are just as smart (and I would argue in some cases, smarter) then those creating the consoles.
I second that! Gotta give props to the modchip developers. Without clear information being released about the inner-workings of the console, it's a very difficult process.
Though I gotta say that I'm with JC on this one. It's been too long, too many hoaxes have been out there, and we are all getting tired of waiting for something to happen other than firmware hacks! I know people are going to flame for remarks such as in this post, but seriously guys...look at all the work being done on consoles like the Wii, not to mention the PS3 with its ability to load LINUX KERNELS on it!!! Lately everyone I have been talking to will mention other consoles, but the 360 is not mentioned.
Post by: Party Animal on March 04, 2007, 12:54:00 AM
Check it out
So there is some progress, but very very slow. In regards to what JC said...indeed, where is the input from team Xecuter?? Why are we only hearing about a few random/wild exploits from lone hackers out there?
Post by: TheSpecialist on March 05, 2007, 04:50:00 AM
QUOTE(Party Animal @ Mar 4 2007, 09:01 AM)
indeed, where is the input from team Xecuter?? Why are we only hearing about a few random/wild exploits from lone hackers out there?
It seems you don't understand how it works. Input from Team Xecuter ? They are a very fine company with great products, but that's not where the hacking happens. Look at the XB1 hack, it was all done by hackers like Bunnie, discussing it on XBH. When it was published how to do it, the modcompanies used the knowledge to build modchips. It was the exact same way with the FW hack, everything was documented on XBH and then modchip companies used the knowledge to build modchips. And now it's the same with unsigned code.
So, it's a bit useless to 'wait for input from Team Xecuter'. I am sure they will build a very fine product (like we're used from them), once a useful hack comes out. But the real hacking is done in other places, like XBH.
Post by: jcdenton2003 on March 05, 2007, 06:47:00 AM
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Post by: Party Animal on March 05, 2007, 07:45:00 PM
QUOTE(TheSpecialist @ Mar 5 2007, 03:50 AM)
It seems you don't understand how it works. Input from Team Xecuter ? They are a very fine company with great products, but that's not where the hacking happens.
On the contrary, Team Xecuter does all kinds of work themselves with producing new mods/modchips.
See http://www.team-xecuter.com/
Look at their top 5 articles, and notice where they say...
>"After many many more tests we feel we finally nailed the problem regarding dumping game data."
>"...we had a final version manufactured to beta a few weeks ago, we have embarked on an exhaustive testing process"
Like I said, there are many lone hackers out there with their own (and mostly different) methods, but Team Xecuter should be leading the modchip development movement.
Post by: TheSpecialist on March 05, 2007, 08:36:00 PM
QUOTE(Party Animal @ Mar 6 2007, 03:52 AM)
On the contrary, Team Xecuter does all kinds of work themselves with producing new mods/modchips.
Your point being ? Of course they have to do work themselves, they create and sell modchips ! But that's not hacking, it's a whole different ballgame. And this is not meant to be disrespectful to Team x, quite the contrary, they've always produced high quality stuff. I'm just saying that the real hacking happens elsewhere (see the technical threads on XBH for example). It was already like that on the xbox 1 and it still is that way right now
This post has been edited by TheSpecialist: Mar 6 2007, 04:38 AM
Post by: Party Animal on March 05, 2007, 09:50:00 PM
QUOTE(TheSpecialist @ Mar 5 2007, 07:36 PM)
Your point being ?
QUOTE
See http://www.team-xecuter.com/
Look at their top 5 articles, and notice where they say...
>"After many many more tests we feel we finally nailed the problem regarding dumping game data."
>"...we had a final version manufactured to beta a few weeks ago, we have embarked on an exhaustive testing process"
Modchip development in and of itself is hacking. There's a big difference between the guy who plays with a 360 in his basement and finds how to desolder some stuff and an entire development team. They are the ones who make the chip which fits into part of the system to fundamentally change how the xbox functions. To make that modchip work requires "hacking" the system or at least overriding its security to gain control of it. For that matter, an entire development team (such as Xecuter) should be speaking more about progress on a modchip, rather than the guys sitting in their basements chipping in once in a while.
Post by: jcdenton2003 on March 06, 2007, 02:17:00 AM
Post by: jcdenton2003 on March 07, 2007, 10:24:00 AM
Post by: Party Animal on March 08, 2007, 12:30:00 AM
I already knew about hackers in XS contributing their own work, BUT it would be naive to say that team xecuter does not have their own team doing research and hacking, which results in a product produced by them, not just as a rumor on XS. Sure, XS ideas can come together for modchip manufs to capitalize on .(Why do you think there are so many flavors of modchip for xbox1?)
All of this is nice discussion
, but let's focus on the OP's intent of this topic.Awareness needs to be raised regarding the development of a modchip that can do more than just FW mods.
Post by: jcdenton2003 on March 13, 2007, 06:24:00 PM
Post by: jcdenton2003 on March 19, 2007, 08:44:00 AM
Post by: cisco7200 on May 17, 2007, 12:24:00 PM
QUOTE(belke @ Jan 31 2007, 10:07 PM)
Microsoft should just give us the back door to the console. In the end it will just increase sales dramatically and they will win the fight to be the best console. Maybe not allow XBL with a modded box so people are out buying 2 xbox's? hmm
I like his thinking. I only had 1 xbox until the mod chips came out. I ended up buy 2 more xboxes. How much money did they make off of this.
Post by: LIVE Prophet on May 19, 2007, 07:17:00 PM
Then again, that might just be the dumbest idea ever.