Post by: sharky98 on February 23, 2003, 06:38:00 PM
I was wondering if this was true or not.... I can't seem to find any information on the net anymore??
Just curious!!
Sharky98
Post by: Marmite on February 23, 2003, 10:28:00 PM
Post by: maximusg on February 24, 2003, 12:13:00 AM
Post by: xMonoxide187x on February 24, 2003, 05:25:00 PM
Post by: LumbraX on February 24, 2003, 07:37:00 PM
http://www.pcsx.net/
BTW: This emu has already been ported to the Sega Dreamcast. So dont underestimate the power of the X. hehehe
This post has been edited by LumbraX: Feb 25 2003, 03:44 AM
Post by: Chambers on February 25, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
Post by: LumbraX on February 25, 2003, 05:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (Chambers @ Feb 25 2003, 12:53 PM) |
| Great work! Do you guys plan on just porting the emu or also developing it some more to increase compatability and what not? Also, would having multiple ISO's on a DVDR seem like something that would work? |
First we port. Then after first public release we will get a coder that knows his shit for PSX and he can help us develop the emu to a more mature state.
This post has been edited by LumbraX: Feb 25 2003, 09:18 PM
Post by: socrates on February 25, 2003, 05:19:00 AM
Post by: chilin_dude on February 25, 2003, 07:13:00 AM
Post by: kaylapuppy on February 25, 2003, 08:42:00 AM
Which ones have you found to be the most compatible with the most games. And which one has the best plugin support, or do they all use the same plugins ?
Regards,
KP
Post by: Chambers on February 26, 2003, 04:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (kaylapuppy @ Feb 25 2003, 05:35 PM) |
| While we're on the PSX topic, what is the best PSX emu for the PC ? I have tried epsxe, but did not have alot of success. Which ones have you found to be the most compatible with the most games. And which one has the best plugin support, or do they all use the same plugins ? Regards, KP |
epsxe (for nice graphics) and vgs (for compatibility)
Post by: brinwe on February 28, 2003, 04:31:00 AM
so maybe i can get rid of the ol PS1 since the laser is going bad in it. i use ePSXe on my PC usually to test some games, but i still play the actual games on my PS1 or my bro's modded ps2.
Post by: razorrifh on March 01, 2003, 09:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (LumbraX @ Feb 25 2003, 03:30 AM) |
| We should have a release out to public by late march or maby even earlier, I cant promise anything though. |
is march 2nd considered late march? lol i can wish cant i?
Post by: ocojaa on March 02, 2003, 05:46:00 AM
Post by: LumbraX on March 02, 2003, 08:50:00 AM
| QUOTE (razorrifh @ Mar 2 2003, 05:40 AM) | ||
is march 2nd considered late march? lol i can wish cant i? |
lol. I should have said Late March/Early April.
It all depends on our coders though.
Post by: eXplague on March 02, 2003, 04:03:00 PM
Post by: azninvasion on March 02, 2003, 04:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (eXplague @ Mar 3 2003, 12:03 AM) |
| along with the line of thought about multiple ISO's on a DVD drive, the option to read the ISO off the HD would be an excellent alternative also !! most ppl are runnin anything up to 441G with a min of 10G - so it would be excellent (like xbox iso's) if you could just copy all the games to your PC, then to ur XBOX just a thought |
yeah that would be nice i was thinking the same thing too... Since i have a thompson drive i thought i would be out of luck, but extracting the files onto the hdd similar to how umm xbox --homebrew-- games are would be a very nice addition....
Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on March 02, 2003, 05:01:00 PM
Post by: Peddy on March 03, 2003, 06:20:00 AM
Peddy
Post by: xMonoxide187x on March 03, 2003, 08:02:00 AM
Post by: Penfoldian on March 03, 2003, 09:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (kaylapuppy @ Feb 25 2003, 05:35 PM) |
| While we're on the PSX topic, what is the best PSX emu for the PC ? I have tried epsxe, but did not have alot of success. Which ones have you found to be the most compatible with the most games. And which one has the best plugin support, or do they all use the same plugins ? Regards, KP |
Sorry, but what ever happened to BLEEM?
Post by: TB_88 on March 03, 2003, 11:33:00 AM
Post by: dankydoo on March 03, 2003, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: HeLiuM on March 03, 2003, 12:16:00 PM
"usual places"
Post by: akarnid on March 03, 2003, 02:05:00 PM
Post by: OlD-FaRt-2 on March 03, 2003, 02:26:00 PM
| QUOTE (e1x5x @ Mar 3 2003, 08:53 PM) |
| great news LumbraX. If i can ask a few questions, i will know, feel free to answer if you have time. Are you going to be using the official XDK? If so, how do you plan to publicly release it? Also, if you're looking for beta testers, i'd love to do so, i am going to have my modchip soon, and i have a bunch of psx games also. Thanks for your time. |
Your getting a bit too personal there, don't you think e1x5x?
hmmmmmmmm! smells a bit fishy to me.
But hey, that's just me.....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On another note.
Keep up the good work guys.....
Post by: LumbraX on March 03, 2003, 08:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (e1x5x @ Mar 3 2003, 07:53 PM) |
| great news LumbraX. If i can ask a few questions, i will know, feel free to answer if you have time. Are you going to be using the official XDK? If so, how do you plan to publicly release it? Also, if you're looking for beta testers, i'd love to do so, i am going to have my modchip soon, and i have a bunch of psx games also. Thanks for your time. |
Well its being built with "Illegal" Xbox SDK.
It will be distributed to #Xbins on EFNet and on alt.binaries.cd.image.xbox.
And guys dont get me wrong. Im not main coder for this project.
Im just a small coder. Our main coder has done 97% of the work.BenJeremy is going to be helping out alittle latter in the Project to.
So props go out to him.(Thanks TerrorShocked for posting that news) And No its not a April Fools Joke.
Post by: dankydoo on March 04, 2003, 10:09:00 AM
Post by: e1x5x on March 04, 2003, 03:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (OlD-FaRt-2 @ Mar 3 2003, 11:26 PM) | ||
Your getting a bit too personal there, don't you think e1x5x? hmmmmmmmm! smells a bit fishy to me. But hey, that's just me..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On another note. Keep up the good work guys..... |
sorry, didnt mean to get personal, i was just wondering, i am new to the scene, and i didnt know.
Post by: Roam on March 04, 2003, 05:44:00 PM
Post by: LumbraX on March 04, 2003, 05:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (Peddy @ Mar 4 2003, 09:01 PM) |
| Obviously, its the only viable option. Would it be possible to have some visable evidence of the emulator, say a screenshot or something? Anyway, good luck! Peddy |
Howabout you just wait.
We dont need proof. And besides we dont even have a compiled .xbe yet. Were just porting the Plugins to DX8 atm.Infact I want more people to bullshit and bullshit about this Emu. So me,dankydoo,BenJeremy,and VIDEOGAMEBUYER14 will Own them after first release. lol
(Even though their are always AssHoles who will flame us becuase it may not run at full speed, or it may not play this game, or that game. As Ive said before the only thing I can promise is something released, weather it be the Ported pcsx GFX Plugins to DX8.... But were looking forward to the first ever PSX Emulator for the Xbox. (I hope you guys still have hope)
(If I havnt answered your question already its because I feel uncomfortible answering them, Im not gonna promise anyone somethin that may not be possible) I will respond about Beta Testers when the time comes. But if we have Beta Testers that will back up our *hopefully* ontime release date. And I personally belive the first public release will be a Alpha or Early Beta.)
I would think that me posting the news would be enough visual evidence. lol
Post by: johnmiceter on March 05, 2003, 04:17:00 AM
, and so would a lot of others too.But I think peddy might be like me and sick of people with all these Fake Emulators for Xbox.
Because it just gets your hopes up, and really annoys you when you look forward to something so much and then you find out it's Fake
Anyway I wish you's luck and hope you get at least 1 game to work fully and at full speed hehe.
Well Good luck
Post by: lucas on March 05, 2003, 05:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (johnmiceter @ Mar 5 2003, 11:17 PM) |
| But I think peddy might be like me and sick of people with all these Fake Emulators for Xbox. Because it just gets your hopes up, and really annoys you when you look forward to something so much and then you find out it's Fake |
im sure you can take a head moderators word for it
Post by: brinwe on March 05, 2003, 07:57:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Infact I want more people to bullshit and bullshit about this Emu. |
ok there... i bullshitted, the problem is, i really want that emu
i can't wait for it. even if it's slow.. (well maybe only a lil slow) i'll be happy, hehe. anyway, good luck!!!
Post by: sith on March 05, 2003, 08:36:00 AM
.sith.
Post by: LumbraX on March 05, 2003, 01:15:00 PM
Post by: razorrifh on March 05, 2003, 10:17:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| I've decided to make my psx plugins Open Source, that way interested coders can have a look and help me to improve the plugins further. Currently my Soft GPU plugins, my SPU plugins and my CDR plugin are available, other plugins will follow somewhen The PeopsSoftGPUs is based on my old "Pete's Soft GPU 1.54", the PeopsSoundSPU is based on my 1.15 sound plugins, the PeopsCDR is based on my 1.11 Aspi/Ioctl cdr plugin. The gpu/spu projects are available as Windows and Linux versions, the cdr project is currently Windows only, but some other ports (AmigaPPC, BeOS) of the various plugins are also in development. Well, you can find the full sources of the P.E.Op.S. (Psx Emulation Open Source) project's plugins at sourceforge, the license is GPL, but I've placed the binary only archives (containing only the plugins, not the sources) on my homepage as well. So, peops, have fun |
and further more:
| QUOTE |
| Pete's Windows PSX GPUs * All hw/accel. gpu plugins (OpenGL, D3D DX7 and D3D DX6) are available in one zip archive. Enjoy! Pete's PSX GPUs Version 1.68 (492 KByte Zip-File) - small fixes and improved frame skipping |
just trying to help. i'm struggling with GBA programming, though its mostly because i have the graphics skills of a 2 year old, hehheh.
Post by: dankydoo on March 06, 2003, 12:48:00 PM
Yes, I got the sourcecode from sourceforge...
dankydoo
Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on March 08, 2003, 10:52:00 AM
Anyways, I'm still waiting on makin a credits section, cause, were not ready, and i still dont have a full team. But, keep around, and I also think that Halo 2 not comin out in 03' sucks, but look at it this way, it'll be better right? Anyways, you can at least look forward to the psx emu coming out this year, thats for sure. VG out.
Post by: razorrifh on March 10, 2003, 03:03:00 PM
*edit* lmao at directx 2!! @ dankydoo. does that make it any easier to port? id guess no cuz it wouldnt have all the datatypes and enums that there are in 8+.
Post by: johnney5 on March 10, 2003, 04:15:00 PM
Post by: MickeYd420 on March 11, 2003, 07:23:00 PM
Post by: razorrifh on March 12, 2003, 06:47:00 PM
Post by: LumbraX on March 13, 2003, 07:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (razorrifh @ Mar 13 2003, 02:47 AM) |
| how does that go again? oh yeah... bump |
Im not ignoring you razorrifh. I see you got alot of PSX Games. But their is no point in having Beta Testers if you dont even have a booting .xbe yet. HeHe. (Ill keep an eye on you though)
THIS IS IT. News Is
shutoff until release. A Release of somethin will come. KeyWord: "somethin".Please Pray With Us. hehe. (I will contact all testers that I think will actually test it to make the final better, not the ones that just want it so they can say they had it first.) This will only happen though if the Coding and Porting is successfull ( I dont doubt our main coder dankydoo one bit though), if pcsx isnt COMPLETLY ported, GFX Plugins will be released to devs who can finish it. But our goal is to provide you guys with a working PSX Emu.
Post by: johnmiceter on March 14, 2003, 03:49:00 AM
Good luck
Post by: rooicity on March 14, 2003, 04:52:00 AM
you are xbox-gods if you can pull this off
Post by: razorrifh on March 17, 2003, 06:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (rooicity @ Mar 14 2003, 12:52 PM) |
| lumbrax,dankydoo,BenJeremy,and VIDEOGAMEBUYER14 you are xbox-gods if you can pull this off |
i agree with rooicity.
and i bumped cuz i wanted this to get more attention, not cuz i wanna be a beta tester that bad, heh.
Post by: Clay_Trainor on March 17, 2003, 08:13:00 PM
Cheers
Post by: LumbraX on March 19, 2003, 05:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (Clay_Trainor @ Mar 18 2003, 04:13 AM) |
| Yeah man, good luck with this emulator, i'm highly lookign forward to it. Your next project should be PJ64 Cheers |
lol We Wish. Not a OpenSource Emu though. :-(
Im sure DankyDoo is gonna be on a long vacation after this is done. Worried about Sound and Saving though.
Post by: RSDeathscythe on March 19, 2003, 06:48:00 PM
Post by: sith on March 19, 2003, 08:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (LumbraX @ Mar 20 2003, 02:27 AM) | ||
lol We Wish. Not a OpenSource Emu though. :-( Im sure DankyDoo is gonna be on a long vacation after this is done. Worried about Sound and Saving though. |
then how about mugen or deadlous?? j/k i only wish.. if u guys can manage psx that would be just fine for me!!
again good luck..
.sith.
Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on March 21, 2003, 04:06:00 AM
Post by: mr jones on March 21, 2003, 09:17:00 AM
When its just a hobby project, and you're not getting paid for it, and you have to put ALOT of hours into implementing then debuging, it can become tedious, and a hobby isn't supposed to become a chore. It supposed to be challenging and fun. That's why alot of these homebrew emulator projects end up getting half done, and never completed.
I wish the programmer luck, and I really do hope that he's able to complete it, because we benefit from his efforts, but I honestly don't pay much attention to this unless the team just comes through, and announces a beta release. And since one of the team members said that there's only ONE programmer, that won't be for a while.
Good luck on your project guys!
mr jones
Post by: LumbraX on March 21, 2003, 01:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (mr jones @ Mar 21 2003, 05:17 PM) |
| I wish the programmer luck, and I really do hope that he's able to complete it, because we benefit from his efforts, but I honestly don't pay much attention to this unless the team just comes through, and announces a beta release. And since one of the team members said that there's only ONE programmer, that won't be for a while. Good luck on your project guys! mr jones |
2 Programmers actually. Only 1 main though. Dankydoo is the one coding it, BenJeremy is our (Backup/Spare) programmer mr jones. :-)
Post by: LumbraX on March 21, 2003, 02:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (caraeculo @ Mar 21 2003, 04:54 AM) |
| Hey !!! xboxdeveloper.net says that the psx emu project was cancelled, is that true? that you couldn't solve the sound and saves problems... Well, if that's true, i think that you could posted it here first and a bit earlier, not 2 weeks before the "release". you said that "something"was going to be released, what´s up with that guys? Lots and I mean LOTS of people was interested in this emu (I'm from Venezuela) the psx emu was going to be like a "reborn" of the xbox scene, that's getting boring lately. |
Not are emulator port. That emulator was ditched awhile ago, they just decided to announce it on the 16th.
. Did you ever here of a KingJok or KingJoke or whatever on our Team???. 
Does this make me a liar now, someone elses emulator got Canceled but nothing was released?!?
They cant complete a project (Thats not there fault im sure though), but they dont Release the Source Code. They said it had Loading issues which means it must of booted somethin.....? Right? I dont understand why a coder will do all that coding then put it in the Trash because of a few stupid issues. (Good Job For Trying Though).
Post by: LumbraX on March 22, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
| QUOTE (caraeculo @ Mar 22 2003, 07:27 AM) |
| Well, sorry about that guys, good luck with the emulator, and thanks for reply so soon. |
Im sure it made your day huh? To find out that there still is hope? hehe.
Post by: mr jones on March 22, 2003, 11:41:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| 2 Programmers actually. Only 1 main though. Dankydoo is the one coding it, BenJeremy is our (Backup/Spare) programmer mr jones. :-) |
I stand corrected. Thanks for the update, LumbraX.
Oh, I might as well ask while I'm here. How many folks are working on the project? Is it just Dankydoo (and BenJeremy) who is working on all programming aspects of the emu (core, graphics, sound, controls, and front end), or are there certain features that are being delegated to other team members? What role do you play in the project? Is this more or less a straight port of an existing PSX emulator on the PC, or has there been any features that are specific to the Xbox that have been added (or are being considered)?
Thanks again,
mr jones
Post by: LumbraX on March 22, 2003, 04:57:00 PM
| QUOTE (mr jones @ Mar 22 2003, 07:41 PM) | ||
I stand corrected. Thanks for the update, LumbraX. Oh, I might as well ask while I'm here. How many folks are working on the project? Is it just Dankydoo (and BenJeremy) who is working on all programming aspects of the emu (core, graphics, sound, controls, and front end), or are there certain features that are being delegated to other team members? What role do you play in the project? Is this more or less a straight port of an existing PSX emulator on the PC, or has there been any features that are specific to the Xbox that have been added (or are being considered)? Thanks again, mr jones |
Yes #1Dankydoo#1 and BenJeremy are the only coders as of now. Right now we just want to get a straight pc port over to Xbox, ISO9600 will be added to the code though. (Gonna have to go dig it from XBMP Source. hehehe). In the future there could be someone updating it but right now were just looking at gettin a PSX Game to run on Xbox, Full Speed or Not.
Post by: lucas on March 25, 2003, 10:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (azninvasion @ Mar 26 2003, 02:45 PM) |
| bump... trying to keep this on top =) |
why? think the programmers will code faster or something if you keep this at the top?
Post by: LumbraX on March 26, 2003, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: LumbraX on March 28, 2003, 01:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (razorrifh @ Mar 28 2003, 02:27 PM) |
| the xbox could probably run psx games (they run at a native resolution of 320x240 i beleive) to run at 640x480 without much lag, and full screen antialiasing, heh. aka, they'd look nicer, and its probably fun for the developers to code. just a quick question, how are you guys testing the stuff you're porting? with a simple psx.exe, or is it far enough along that you can actually run slus files *hint hint* give an update! *hint hint* lol |
Were testing our builds in a .exe format atm. :-)
Post by: LumbraX on March 28, 2003, 01:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (djmrm @ Mar 28 2003, 09:22 PM) |
| The Dreamcast was pretty shit for true emulation. Heck, it couldn't even run a SNES emu full speed. With the last build running around 80% tops with a lot of speed hacks. |
Xbox is very close to breaking Dreamcast's Emulator Record, Xbox has ALLOOOOOOT of Emulators for diffrent console's, and all of them run at full speed, DC 34% of them were slow.
Post by: senator on March 28, 2003, 02:37:00 PM
| QUOTE |
March 16th, 2003 Playstation Emulater Canceled KINGJOCK - March 16th, 2003 Playstation Emulater Canceled yes you heard right we have decided to stop production of the emulator and work on other things couldnt get sound to work, slow loading time, and save function not working. We will start another project soon so stay tuned in |
True OR NOT......
Post by: nazis X. on March 28, 2003, 05:35:00 PM
| QUOTE (djmrm @ Mar 29 2003, 01:57 AM) | ||
Umm, No they don't. The Amiga UAE Port, certainly doesn't reach full speed even when emulating an A500. Tons of lag, bad sound lag, and some dreadful slowdown at times. And forget AGA A1200 emulation. Then there's MAMEX, when even some simple arcade games have to have frameskip set to auto to reach a playable level. And forget about Neogeo ever reaching full speed. Then there's the PCEngine Hugo emulator that has some dreadful slowdown. |
MAME-X doesn't run some games because it simply doesn't have enough RAM to hold some of the uncompressed games. Metal Slug 3, for example, is 96MB uncompressed, which is more than the XBox's 64MB of RAM. Fair enough.
However, Hugo goes slow and buggy because the emulator it's based on isn't exactly full-speed or accurate. Try Hugo on the PC and tell me it runs most of the games fine, with no graphic or sound glitches. That's not the XBox's fault.
Oh and this little comment....
| QUOTE |
| Haven't any of you got a decent PC ? |
What do you consider a decent PC? I got a P3 1GHZ with 512MB RAM and a TNT2, which I believe has 64MB of RAM. Most of the PSX games (emulated on EPSXE) look like shit because, frankly, my graphics card isn't bleeding edge. I try it on my boss's computer (P4 1.8GHz, 512 DDR RAM, GeForce3 128MB RAM) and it STILL looks like shit, regardless of plugin, configuration, etc (albeit, at full speed). This leads me to ask: what do you think is a 'decent' PC? Not all of us have a grand every couple of months to upgrade our computers, and the XBox would be a nice solution.
Yes, I am being a fanboy, somewhat. It's pitiful when you see someone down development because they personally don't like it. So what that you won't use it? A vast majority of the scene would use it, and you know it.
EDIT: Corrected the name of the MAME game I was talking about. Thanks for the pointer lucas.
Post by: razorrifh on March 28, 2003, 05:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (djmrm @ Mar 28 2003, 04:22 PM) |
| Ever seen a PSX game at 1280x960, with 4xAA, and 4xAF, with 2xSAI, and all the eye candy of Pete's GPU turned on ?? |
id rather take an xbox and 24 psx isos on my hard drive around than my desktop pc and monitor personally. just my opinion.
Post by: nazis X. on March 28, 2003, 08:57:00 PM
Stupid me
Post by: Ronnie on March 28, 2003, 08:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (lucas @ Mar 28 2003, 11:35 PM) |
| WTF?!?! Theres an MGS3? |
Hey lucas you silly cocksmoker looks like I caught an error you made.
"An" should only be used before words that begin with a vowel or with an unpronounced "h"
Yeah check that shit out biatch!!!
Man you're such a stupid ass.
Don't screw up again because I watchin' you...
Post by: LumbraX on March 28, 2003, 09:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (senator @ Mar 28 2003, 10:37 PM) | ||
XboxDeveloper.net says
True OR NOT...... |
I guess its true, :-)
(Why does it matter though?)
Post by: nazis X. on March 28, 2003, 09:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ronnie @ Mar 29 2003, 05:59 AM) | ||
Hey lucas you silly cocksmoker looks like I caught an error you made. "An" should only be used before words that begin with a vowel or with an unpronounced "h" Yeah check that shit out biatch!!! Man you're such a stupid ass. Don't screw up again because I watchin' you... |
Now I feel left out. You didn't include my glaring error, even though it isn't grammical. =-)
You are right about the whole 'an' thing, tho.
Post by: Ronnie on March 28, 2003, 10:04:00 PM
And you...well what the frick is nazis X?
Post by: nazis X. on March 28, 2003, 11:32:00 PM
Post by: djmrm on March 29, 2003, 04:56:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| MAME-X doesn't run some games because it simply doesn't have enough RAM to hold some of the uncompressed games. Metal Slug 3, for example, is 96MB uncompressed, which is more than the XBox's 64MB of RAM. Fair enough. However, Hugo goes slow and buggy because the emulator it's based on isn't exactly full-speed or accurate. Try Hugo on the PC and tell me it runs most of the games fine, with no graphic or sound glitches. That's not the XBox's fault. |
I'm talking about the speed of the emulation, NOT the amount of RAM it needs. There is a HUGE difference and I think you should learn a little about emulation before making such stupid comments.
And I use Hugo, among others, and it certainly ain't buggy.
| QUOTE |
| MAME-X doesn't run some games because it simply doesn't have enough RAM to hold some of the uncompressed games. Metal Slug 3, for example, is 96MB uncompressed, which is more than the XBox's 64MB of RAM. Fair enough. However, Hugo goes slow and buggy because the emulator it's based on isn't exactly full-speed or accurate. Try Hugo on the PC and tell me it runs most of the games fine, with no graphic or sound glitches. That's not the XBox's fault. Oh and this little comment.... QUOTE Haven't any of you got a decent PC ? (In reference to PSX emulation) What do you consider a decent PC? I got a P3 1GHZ with 512MB RAM and a TNT2, which I believe has 64MB of RAM. Most of the PSX games (emulated on EPSXE) look like shit because, frankly, my graphics card isn't bleeding edge. I try it on my boss's computer (P4 1.8GHz, 512 DDR RAM, GeForce3 128MB RAM) and it STILL looks like shit, regardless of plugin, configuration, etc (albeit, at full speed). This leads me to ask: what do you think is a 'decent' PC? Not all of us have a grand every couple of months to upgrade our computers, and the XBox would be a nice solution. Yes, I am being a fanboy, somewhat. It's pitiful when you see someone down development because they personally don't like it. So what that you won't use it? A vast majority of the scene would use it, and you know it. |
Second most dumb ass post I've yet seen in these forums.
So you are telling me that you can't run PSX games, and make them look great, on those systems ?
What a f*cking load of utter tosh.
I've just set up ePSXe on a mates Athlon Thunderbird 1.2 + Geforce 3 + 256Mb + Pete's DX GPU. And it looks f*cking awesome.
Perhaps you should learn to configure a GPU plugin before you spout such utter tosh.
I'm guessing you've NEVER seen 2xSAI in action ? Or the use of AA and AF in an emulator ? And texture filtering that smooths out the poor PSX textures ?
And what do I consider a decent PC ?
How about what I mentioned above ?
And I'm not talking about uber spec PCs, more mid level machines.
You can talk all you want about Xbox, but when it comes to complex emulation of complex systems, it just doesn't cut it and NEVER will.
And all the coding in the world isn't going to magically transform a limited Celeron 733 mhz CPU, into the power of an Athlon XP or a P4. And thats what emulation is all about, CPU.
Post by: nazis X. on March 29, 2003, 08:35:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| I'm talking about the speed of the emulation, NOT the amount of RAM it needs. There is a HUGE difference and I think you should learn a little about emulation before making such stupid comments. And I use Hugo, among others, and it certainly ain't buggy. |
The amount of RAM it needs is directly related to the speed of the emulation. The ONLY reason some games in MAME run slowly is because most of the RAM is being taking up by the actual ROM it has loaded. MAME only needs, at most, 18MB of RAM to do all of the bells-and-whistles any ROM has to offer; the rest is taken up by the actual ROM, as stated above. Emulation isn't all about CPU, but, as always, that plays one of the few important factors. You'd be surprised what a small processor dedicated to one task can do. And please, don't turn this into a flame war by calling my comments 'stupid'. I didn't insult your intelligence, so don't insult mine.
Hugo IS buggy, the developer has admitted this himself on many occasions. The sound on that emulator has been buggy for years; it's been a thorn in the developer's side. Read the changelog and the readme that's packaged with Hugo for the PC.
I DO know how to configure a plugin. At least, after sitting in front of a PC for a few days straight and screwing around with trying to make it look good at a decent speed, I ought to. Read the EPSXE forums; hardly anyone comments that they've got a game running full-speed, no glitches, and hi-res on a P3; this is impossible, as there WILL be glitches and slowdowns because the emulation still isn't entirely perfect. They just report that it works.
And please, if you're just going to turn this into a flame war instead of a healthy debate, don't respond.
EDIT: A few grammical errors.
Post by: Ronnie on March 29, 2003, 10:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (lucas @ Mar 29 2003, 04:25 AM) |
| i only bitchslapped you before since you made a post with grammatical errors and calling someone dumb in the same sentence. i never claimed to to be perfect myself but find it amusing when someone makes errors like that. heck, its right up there with "your dum, fag!". get over it buddy |
I didn't call anyone a fag,little bitch.
I didn't say shit to you but you had to start something and why do you think your dumbass can stand up for someone?He's a big boy he does not need your help.
You should get over it,I got your ass with that mis-use of "an".Take that jerk off.
Anyway Im not a little kid and I don't want to keep insulting you and I don't want you to insult me.If you forget about it then so will I.
Post by: razorrifh on March 29, 2003, 01:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (HeLiuM @ Mar 29 2003, 02:15 PM) |
| dont get this thread locked, it was a healthy discussion |
i agree.
i like the name lumbra for some reason. heh. </randomness>
Post by: nazis X. on March 29, 2003, 01:57:00 PM
Post by: johnney5 on March 29, 2003, 06:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (ghettog @ Mar 30 2003, 01:13 AM) |
| Any updates on this project? Do they have a site? Is it out yet maybe? Is it cancelled? Sorry for playing 21 questions even though it's only 4. |
wanted to know the same, and that song is the worst on the cd as you may have known, and 'dont push me' isnt that good either, only the beginning is iight
Post by: Clay_Trainor on March 29, 2003, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: razorrifh on March 29, 2003, 09:04:00 PM
Post by: Ronnie on March 30, 2003, 04:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (nazis X. @ Mar 29 2003, 05:57 PM) |
| The processor in the XBox is a mobile Celeron going at 733MHz. I don't remember where this is posted anymore, but it's old news. |
Are you sure?Everyone seems to advertise it as a Pentium III.
Post by: nazis X. on March 30, 2003, 04:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ronnie @ Mar 31 2003, 01:10 AM) | ||
Are you sure?Everyone seems to advertise it as a Pentium III. |
I'm positive that it is a mobile Coppermine Celeron going at 733MHz. I'll post a link to proof ASAP.
Post by: razorrifh on March 30, 2003, 06:32:00 PM
Post by: Ronnie on March 31, 2003, 04:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (razorrifh @ Mar 30 2003, 10:32 PM) |
| its a celeron... ive never seen anyone say it was a p3. |
Here are some pages that never said the XBOX had a PIII.
http://www.webnweb.c...x-box_spec.html
http://www.pxdngamer...test/xboxsp.htm
just go to google and type xbox specs and you will see how mnay people thought/think it is/was a Pentium chip.
When it came out its what everyone was advertising.It may be a celeron but it was called a PIII for a long time.
Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on March 31, 2003, 04:51:00 PM
Post by: LumbraX on March 31, 2003, 05:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (Videogamebuyer14 @ Apr 1 2003, 12:51 AM) |
| For those of you who took up unneccecary badwidth, you should be ashamed of yourselves, taking up space in the announcement of a new emulator. That should be enough of a derrogatory comment to the authors of the emulator, (me, lumbrax, dankydoo, lantus, etc...) to stop it in it's tracks. But, since progress it great, and there are lots of people helping out on the team, I wouldn't think of doing such a thing. But please people, dont spam up the board with garbage, if you must flame each other, do it in pm, not publicly. For those of you who didn't do anything, I apoligize to you. In a while I will be recruiting beta testers for a future time. Later, for now. |
;-)
Post by: Ronnie on March 31, 2003, 07:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (LumbraX @ Mar 31 2003, 09:51 PM) | ||
;-) |
No one is flaming.Just make your emulator and quit crying.
And LumbraX
| QUOTE |
| Love and Respect DankyDoo and BenJeremy becuase they OWN all of you. |
They don't own me
Fix your sig dude
Post by: razorrifh on March 31, 2003, 07:30:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| i may not be a playa but you're still a playa hater |
but i must agree with ronnie on one point... make the emu
heh
Post by: LumbraX on March 31, 2003, 08:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ronnie @ Apr 1 2003, 03:22 AM) | ||||||
No one is flaming.Just make your emulator and quit crying. And LumbraX
They don't own me Fix your sig dude |
ShutUp, im sick of your bullshit. NOoNe in here is crying but YOU and how your not gonna use the Emu nomatter what... well personally none of us give a fuck...
And if you use EvoX, MediaXMenu, XSnes9X, DoomX, or FBA X, yes they do OWN you.
(I changed my sig so you would stop posting your BS in here).
Post by: DANNYstallone on March 31, 2003, 11:12:00 PM
Post by: LumbraX on April 01, 2003, 04:17:00 AM
You will be updated w/ news when we get our site up, thanks to razorrifh for making the layout for us. (Now we could just use a PHP Coder when the time comes, if anyone is interested PM).