Post by: spike4real on September 05, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
'Could not detect flash controller, Fatal Error'
I've checked the wiring and all looks perfect (the mod was done by a pro). The three 330 ohm resistors are on the end nearest the case (points 3-4-5) and the five 100 ohm resistors are on the LPT connector end of wires (1-2-14-16-17).
is this correct? Do the 100 ohm resistors need to be on the xbox end rather than connector end? Do i even need them at all?!
Any help is appreciated.
Post by: pledo2000 on September 05, 2009, 09:33:00 AM
http://img44.imageshack.us/i/wiringforxenondiagramre.jpg/
This post has been edited by pledo2000: Sep 5 2009, 04:35 PM
Post by: danked on September 05, 2009, 09:33:00 AM
I don't think the 100 ohm resistors position really matter mine are on the db25 connector but I have seen some on the mobo, both seem to work.
Post by: spike4real on September 05, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
Post by: Ski-lleR on September 06, 2009, 12:38:00 PM
I have exactly the same problem
* Tested on 3 different PC
* All LTP modes
* All wiring are ok (checked with multimeter)
* LTP port output 5v (so i use 5x100 ohm, tested in the cable, and on the motherboard, also checked with multimeter, and tested without resistor)
* 3x330 ohm
* LTP cable = 15cm
* 1N914 with black ring at motherboard side (tested without)
* Registry trick (disablewarmxxx)
* Tried to install old text printer on the ltp port
* PortNT95 installed
* Tested on Windows 98 and XP (also on linux)
* Xbox is the very first box (buyed the launch day of the 360), never returned to microsoft, never rrod
'Could not detect flash controller, Fatal Error'
This week i'll test with lcp2148 (usb)
Post by: Relapse75 on September 06, 2009, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: jayboy86 on September 07, 2009, 10:36:00 AM
Tested on a PC and laptop
I have tried all LTP modes
checked all the wiring twice
3x330 ohm
5x100 ohm
LTP cable is about 25-30cm long
1N914 diode installed with black ring at motherboard side
Tested on Windows xp
C:\Documents and Settings\trippy\Desktop\NandPro20>NandPro.exe lpt: -r16 nand.bin
NandPro v2.0 by Tiros
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
any help would be welcome. thanks
j
This post has been edited by jayboy86: Sep 7 2009, 05:38 PM
Post by: HotKnife420 on October 11, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
QUOTE(jayboy86 @ Sep 7 2009, 05:36 PM) 
I also have the exact same problem
Tested on a PC and laptop
I have tried all LTP modes
checked all the wiring twice
3x330 ohm
5x100 ohm
LTP cable is about 25-30cm long
1N914 diode installed with black ring at motherboard side
Tested on Windows xp
C:\Documents and Settings\trippy\Desktop\NandPro20>NandPro.exe lpt: -r16 nand.bin
NandPro v2.0 by Tiros
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
any help would be welcome. thanks
j
Remove the resistors (the ones on the lpt flasher, not the 330 ohms, as they're for running xell); I had the same error as you, and when I removed them, it worked.
Post by: carlitoB on November 28, 2009, 08:12:00 AM
QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Oct 11 2009, 08:06 PM) 
Remove the resistors (the ones on the lpt flasher, not the 330 ohms, as they're for running xell); I had the same error as you, and when I removed them, it worked.
thanks alot for this. I thought i must have had a bad solder point i could not see. however, removed the 5x 100ohm resistors and all is good. dumping nand as i type, takes a while!
got working using the 3x 1N4148 diodes only, just wires for the rest with no resistors.
thanks for you help guys.
Post by: jaluka on November 28, 2009, 10:05:00 AM
QUOTE(spike4real @ Sep 5 2009, 02:47 PM)
I'm having an issue reading my Nand using the LPT mod. I've tried two different age computers (P4 and Pentium-D) and all available LPT modes in the BIOS (Normal, ECP etc). Every time i get the same result.
'Could not detect flash controller, Fatal Error'
I've checked the wiring and all looks perfect (the mod was done by a pro). The three 330 ohm resistors are on the end nearest the case (points 3-4-5) and the five 100 ohm resistors are on the LPT connector end of wires (1-2-14-16-17).
is this correct? Do the 100 ohm resistors need to be on the xbox end rather than connector end? Do i even need them at all?!
Any help is appreciated.
I got the same error the first time i tried it, then i realised i hadnt plugged in the xbox to the power supply, worked great after that.
Post by: xygan on December 02, 2009, 10:19:00 PM
QUOTE(jaluka @ Nov 28 2009, 06:05 PM)
I got the same error the first time i tried it, then i realised i hadnt plugged in the xbox to the power supply, worked great after that.
Lol me too! but it was because I hadn't pushed the parallel port all the way in to my comp!
Post by: bennybullfrog on December 03, 2009, 01:55:00 AM
QUOTE(xygan @ Dec 3 2009, 04:19 PM)
Lol me too! but it was because I hadn't pushed the parallel port all the way in to my comp!
Wish I could fix mine with something that simple. I tried everything possible and still couldn't get nandpro to detect my flash controller. I gave up in the end, wasted 4 evenings on it
Post by: rubaff on December 04, 2009, 05:13:00 AM
CODE
NandPro v2.0 by Tiros
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
Exactly the same here. I tried every setting in the BIOS, resoldered the whole setup, with and without resistors and the diode. Any more ideas?
Maybe it's because my LPT ist on a PCI-board (and not onboard)?
Unfortunately don't have another PC with LPT to test.
Post by: OliSykesIsPro on December 05, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
Post by: woody21_1 on December 06, 2009, 12:00:00 AM
anyone else come across this problem and know how to manually install them?
Post by: notstarman on December 06, 2009, 04:50:00 AM
Status currently flashing....
Error reading block c0 through c9 and counting.
Next step is to add a diode to pin 11. Does anyone know if it matters if the diode is in the cable or on the motherboard?
This post has been edited by notstarman: Dec 6 2009, 01:01 PM
Post by: notstarman on December 06, 2009, 06:25:00 AM
Next step is to remove the resistors.
Post by: crysisfx on December 06, 2009, 08:11:00 PM
QUOTE(notstarman @ Dec 6 2009, 12:50 PM)
So I just verified that you need the AV plug in the xbox360 port to make this work. The HDMI just doesn't do it.
Status currently flashing....
Error reading block c0 through c9 and counting.
Next step is to add a diode to pin 11. Does anyone know if it matters if the diode is in the cable or on the motherboard?
for diodes and resistors it does not matter as long as its there.
but do you really need the AV cable in? i thought this was able to be done with just power and not turning the 360 on?
Post by: Mr.RedRing on December 07, 2009, 12:23:00 AM
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller!
Can not continue
I have messed around with the settings in the bios so many times, SPP, EPP, ECP, AT...nothing.
Post by: desktopwind on December 07, 2009, 07:53:00 AM
Post by: vintage_guitar on December 07, 2009, 09:10:00 AM
Post by: zeroprobe on December 07, 2009, 09:58:00 AM
Post by: Ranger72 on December 09, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Mr.RedRing @ Dec 7 2009, 02:23 AM)
I have tried removing the resistors, adding the resistors, adding the diode on 11, still nothing. My soldering is very well done, have been soldering for a long time, there are no shorts or solder splash any where. I saw this thread and gave removing the resistors a go...no dice. I still get this:
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller!
Can not continue
I have messed around with the settings in the bios so many times, SPP, EPP, ECP, AT...nothing.
Your not the only one man. I have been working on this for way over 80 hours now. I have tried 5 different PC's 3 different 360,s have made 8 cables every connection tested and retested with ohm meter, with and without resisters, with and without diodes, cables as short as 6 inches and as long as 4 feet, upside down, sideways and on the roof and for the life of me I cant get anything to detect a flash controller.
BTW I am a near master solderer and can fallow tutorials to the letter while being blindfolded and both hands tied behind my back and yet does no good for me.
Post by: Ranger72 on December 09, 2009, 12:56:00 PM
I did finally get it to detect the flash chip and start reading but all I get now is read errors. Any idea why?
Post by: Ranger72 on December 09, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
Post by: slikk on December 10, 2009, 02:34:00 AM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Dec 9 2009, 11:56 AM)
I did finally get it to detect the flash chip and start reading but all I get now is read errors. Any idea why?
Would you mind explaining how you got it to start reading? I've been tearing my hair out and poring over the forums, tried 3 different PCs and 2 different xboxes, resistors, no resistors, diode, no diode, it does not make a difference NandPro just says no flash controller detected.
At my wits end here...
Post by: Ranger72 on December 10, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
QUOTE(slikk @ Dec 10 2009, 04:34 AM)
Would you mind explaining how you got it to start reading? I've been tearing my hair out and poring over the forums, tried 3 different PCs and 2 different xboxes, resistors, no resistors, diode, no diode, it does not make a difference NandPro just says no flash controller detected.
At my wits end here...
When looking at the wiring diagram for the lpt connector make sure you are wiring yours up from the angle of the back of the connector. My problem was that I was looking at the diagram from the angle of the connector that connects to the PC and putting the wires in the corresponding pins behind the connector. After a few days pulling my hair I looked closer at the diagram and turned the connector around and it dawned on me that I may have been looking at it wrong and wiring it up all wrong. Moving the wires to the proper pins from the right way of looking at the diagram fixed my problem.
When I had mine wires wrong I was not able to get the board to power on at all unless the lpt was unplugged. This sounds like the same issue you are having. Willing to bet I am not the only dumbass that has made this mistake so give it a try.
Post by: slikk on December 10, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
I really don't know what else to do at this point. I'd like to try USB, but as far as I'm aware there's no working solution for 256mb jaspers yet. I'm also reluctant to invest in the hardware without being able to get it working on LPT...
Post by: shawndezy115 on December 11, 2009, 06:50:00 AM
when your 360 is plugged into the plt it should not power on.
if it powers on then there is somthing messed up.
make sure to play with your settings in the bios for your lpt port.
my issue was that my conector was flipped and i had to play with my bios settings for lpt.
now i have read erors. i was told to use 68ohms resistors. will try this tonight and confirm.
good luck
Post by: slikk on December 11, 2009, 09:52:00 AM
This post has been edited by slikk: Dec 11 2009, 05:53 PM
Post by: DemisesAngel on December 11, 2009, 10:29:00 AM
Post by: melux- on December 12, 2009, 05:56:00 AM
I tryed to install again port95nt drivers, after that it did read it but had error in every block, and readed it for a moment of course now it cant dedect it again, weird.
Post by: K0ld4 on December 12, 2009, 06:19:00 AM
Post by: melux- on December 12, 2009, 09:59:00 AM
Post by: maximilian0017 on December 13, 2009, 05:08:00 AM
Make sure you use Nandpro 2.0B
Try a lower value resistor, also make sure you have the right diode, some people say the diode has to go on the motherboard side(electrically it doesn't matter but maby worth a shot.
Try to disable all programs including Antivirus etc.
Try other bios LPT mode, or other pc (again watch out with the resistors
This post has been edited by maximilian0017: Dec 13 2009, 01:11 PM
Post by: humungusfungusamongus on December 14, 2009, 12:24:00 PM
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller!
Can not continue
Then put the diode on (the wrong way round) and I think it read it a little but immediately errored again. It's been doing the cannot find flash controller thing pretty much since. Tried it with lower value resistors and no resistors and no diode etc etc, more of the same.
But the console is RRoD'ing , 2 lights (the top and bottom left) with the cable unhooked but the wires and connector still on. Is it friar tucked? there's no crossed wire's or solder anywhere to cause shorts, I was under the impression the wires, resistors etc could be left on after???
To add: This pc was able to read and write back to the nand on another 360, altho it was for key retrieval... not that it worked, whatever he was writing back to the nand (xell / xenonhack.bin?) writes back ok but it Rrod's with one red light..
Anyone?
Post by: humungusfungusamongus on December 14, 2009, 03:42:00 PM
Post by: brando56894 on December 27, 2009, 06:06:00 PM
I've check my connection by eye and with the continuity setting on a Multi-Meter and everything was fine. I started out with the 5x100 ohm resistors on the DB-25 connector, tried it and it said that it couldn't find the flash controller, I had a lot of bare wires exposed so I wrapped them all in electrical tape but still got the same error.
I removed the 5x100 ohm resistors and tried again, same thing but this time on the first try when I tried to read the NAND the center light blinked green but it still said it couldn't find it. When I tried to read it again the light went off and hasn't come on again since.
My last attempt I tried to remove the diode on 11 but it still won't work and I'm at a complete loss of what to do next. With each modification I tried all four port settings (AT, PS/2, ECP and EPP), when the green light was blinking it was on PS/2. Any other suggestions?
This post has been edited by brando56894: Dec 28 2009, 02:29 AM
Post by: brando56894 on December 27, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
The only things I have left to try now are resistors below 100 ohms, Ill have to go buy those tomorrow though.
Post by: brando56894 on December 29, 2009, 04:04:00 AM
Post by: oic989 on December 29, 2009, 06:49:00 AM
QUOTE(K0ld4 @ Dec 12 2009, 01:19 PM)
Check if contacts are properly soldered and if contacts aren't shorting any others pieces of xbox...
I have this same problem. I just started working setting up xell last night. Wired everything up, and it wouldn't detect the flash controller. Then I noticed the xbox wouldn't boot up at all on it's own. I pulled all the connections, checked the xbox (which was ok) then put just the nand read/write connections back on. Then the flash detected just fine, and it read with no errors. I dumped the first 2 meg three times and they were all error free and the same. Ran CDInfo to check the CB value, and it's good.
So then I shut it down and put the jtag hack back in (to prepare for gentoo to dump the remainder). Ran a dump again just to be sure. First one had some errors, but the second try came out clean and matched the first 3 from before. But it was getting late, and I didn't have the liveCD on hand, so I shut it down for the day. And left it all exactly as was.
This morning, I fired it back up and tried to write the xell to the nand first thing - the flash config detected wrong (00CCsomething) and it errored on writing every block so I aborted it. Tried a read instead (which I should have done first) and got the could not detect flash. All the points still seem solid, and the xbox boots on it's own if the power button is pressed. But I'd randomly get not detected or flash controller 0044something on a read.
So close! Arg!
Post by: oic989 on December 29, 2009, 08:20:00 AM
"resoldered everything now it works again, i didnt move/touch anything it just stopped working when i woke up @ morning, guess it had bad soldering."
That's the similar problem I had.
Post by: spider861 on December 30, 2009, 05:52:00 PM
QUOTE(DemisesAngel @ Dec 11 2009, 06:29 PM)
Well my problem has to be the XBox 360 itself. The exact same wiring that I used on my 16 MB consoles does not work on the 512 MB Jasper system. I tried everything possible, resistors with/without diode and no resistors with/without diode. I even tried switching the ground. When I go back to my old 16 MB consoles and do my original wiring, I get no problems and reads fine. Tell me, does that make any sense? My only other option now is to try the USB Method and see if that will produce results. Short of that, I'm lost.
Please update if you try the USB method.
I was able to read a Jasper but I cannot read my zephyr (does not detect). Same wires setup etc. Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?
Post by: TingedAce on January 01, 2010, 07:18:00 AM
I eventually worked it out....
I'm admitting to my stupidity here just in case it helps others. I had soldered the wires to the JTAG set of pads i.e. J2D2 instead of J1D2. Checked all the wires, bleeped them out, double checked, resoldered. Totally couldn't see the wood for the trees.
Unsurprisingly soldering them onto the correct pads, it worked straight away. DOH!
Also, this worked both with and without the 100 ohm resistors.
Post by: Ketchup_Bomb on January 01, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
I've gone through all the BIOS settings, and I'm about to desolder my wires and try it without the resistors.
I have 100 ohm resistors and the 1N4148 diode directly on the board. Any suggestions on what I should try next? Remove just the diode? Remove all resistors, keep the diode? Remove everything? Just wondering because it takes forever for me to solder.
Edit: I decided to take a picture so if anyone can spot something I've done wrong, please let me know.
Edit2: I also tried powering on my 360 and it powers on when the LPT cable is NOT connected to the PC, but it does not when it is connected. Even when the computer is off, if it is connected, it won't boot. Is that the desired behavior?
Post by: inpherno3 on January 14, 2010, 03:27:00 PM
Post by: troy2000 on January 20, 2010, 03:17:00 PM
"Could not detect a flash controller."
Tried on 3 PCs.
Post by: nomar383 on January 20, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
Post by: fullfocus on January 20, 2010, 03:40:00 PM
i have done a zenon and a zepher both without resistors and diode with the wires under 15cm long definetly the wires were the problem
as for the cannot detect flash there is a way to short pins on nand and will be recognized
Post by: spider861 on January 21, 2010, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(fullfocus @ Jan 20 2010, 11:40 PM)
i had unbelievable amount of problems doing this to my xbox
i have done a zenon and a zepher both without resistors and diode with the wires under 15cm long definetly the wires were the problem
as for the cannot detect flash there is a way to short pins on nand and will be recognized
Can you please explain how to 'short pins on the nand' to get it to recognize?
Post by: fullfocus on January 21, 2010, 03:01:00 PM
Post by: myself123 on January 22, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
Resoldered everything, tried 2 pcs, tried every bios settings, tried to short pins on nand.
Nothing works, anyone have an idea? I really want to get this working... only reason i bought the xbox
Post by: kayinart on January 23, 2010, 07:55:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=703617
Post by: Ruby Danger on January 23, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
Did 2 boxes last night - both Xenon. 1 box worked perfectly after we did the following:
It would not read without the switching diode - and to those that are unsure - it did not work with the switching diode outside of the box (lpt connector) but did work when we soldered it directly to the mobo.
Without the diode it would recogniz but returned error 0: for every block. For us, the diode fixed that.
2nd box not so lucky (which is of curse my box). Still sitting on "could not detect a flash controller can not continue" and I have exhuasted my efforts for now. I am also afraid that I have destroyed one of my copper rings after numerous different soldering attempts. The box does still boot up fine and plays games fine so mobo appears to be fine!! Will probably tear it all down and start fresh again tomorrow. It's just frustrating to have 1 box work so perfectly and one box fail so miserably.
Some assumptions I am making that I would love to hear either confirmed or debunt (spelling?)
1) Since the 1 box worked, I am obviously using correct resistors and diodes, as well as bios LPT settings. So same settings should work for 2nd box. Is this correct?
2) If you run nandpro lpt: -r16 orig.bin without the lpt even connected to the PC, you get "could not detect a flash controller can not continue" which tells me that getting that message when it IS connected basically is saying - "nothing is recognized" which would lead me to think, if same exact layout as far as diodes and resistors works on one, that it is simply a soldering issue on the mobo????
3) One quick question - I am tempted to use some 24 guage solid wire rather than the flimsy braided CAT wire. Any reason I should not do that in anyones opinion??
Thanks guys - either way - I will hunt down another box if I have to just to get this going!!
Good luck fellow head scratchers!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
This post has been edited by Ruby Danger: Jan 24 2010, 03:19 AM
Post by: seanzscreams on January 24, 2010, 01:29:00 AM
first ditch the ethernet cables braided wire sux second if you must do the cat 5 cable please look at the coupler and make sure its a fucking cat 5 coupler mine was a patch which is what got me started on this so i soldered every box every time resistors to the board xenon falcon and zephyr tried xp vista 7 and 98 all worked all 3 boxes but my totall length of wire..... 6 inches total ..... 6 inches resisitors on every wire that needed and 1n914 switching diode on pin 11 so i had to lift my 360 off the ground with books to bring it to lpt level , again any computer any os any mode epp ecc epp+epp bidirectional normal alll worked wires wires wires length length lenght i cant stress it enough
(IMG:http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6508/1009373.jpg)
(IMG:http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9056/1009375.jpg)
This post has been edited by seanzscreams: Jan 24 2010, 09:35 AM
Post by: houndogs on January 24, 2010, 04:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Ketchup_Bomb @ Jan 2 2010, 04:10 AM)
I'm have this same error--"Could not detect flash controller"--with my Falcon board. This is my first attempt at it, and I'm an amateur solderer but I believe I've wired everything up correctly.
I've gone through all the BIOS settings, and I'm about to desolder my wires and try it without the resistors.
I have 100 ohm resistors and the 1N4148 diode directly on the board. Any suggestions on what I should try next? Remove just the diode? Remove all resistors, keep the diode? Remove everything? Just wondering because it takes forever for me to solder.
Edit: I decided to take a picture so if anyone can spot something I've done wrong, please let me know.
Edit2: I also tried powering on my 360 and it powers on when the LPT cable is NOT connected to the PC, but it does not when it is connected. Even when the computer is off, if it is connected, it won't boot. Is that the desired behavior?
I'd attach the resistors inside the DB25 connector, and try 1/2 watt 100 ohm resistors there the blue ones, make the cable length about 30cm, also put pin 18 to J2B1.12.One of your solder points looks like it hasn't enough solder on it, I can see the wire but not much solder, make sure you have enough on all the points to make a good connection, Also try using KYNAR WIRE 30AW its easier to solder than the thicker stuff. This is what I did on my first attempt at this and it worked for me & I'm not very good at soldering either.
Good luck I hope you get it working
Post by: Ruby Danger on January 24, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
I did find it much easier to simply solder the resistors directly to the board rather than trying to mess with the braided cat5 - then soldered the cat5 to the resistors - literally was able to solder the entire lpt section of the hack in 5 minutes time!! Feel I can pump these out pretty fast now!!
Post by: 0ctavion on January 24, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
Follow Grim's guide for wiring Grim's guide , Much better success rate then the Noob guide posted. Try to keep your cable under 2 feet in total.
If your sure your wiring is correct, and it still won't detect flash controller, lower the resistor value on the LPT: end of cable 66ohm, 50ohm, 33ohm etc (I use 33 ohm), some people even remove the resistors completely, someone mentioned possible motherboard damage from a high voltage parallel port with no resistors, so use caution.
If your still having problems after that play with the LPT port settings in BIOS, Standard is recommended (SPP) but many have used other settings with no problem.
Last option is to try another computer.
Once you have the controller detected, make sure you have the diodes set according to the guide(unlike resistors diodes are directional, make sure to pay attention to the black line) to fix most flash config/read errors.
This post has been edited by 0ctavion: Jan 24 2010, 08:57 PM
Post by: NLA on January 24, 2010, 12:55:00 PM
Details:
- Falcon revision
- 5x100 Ohm 1-watt resistors in the LPT housing, not soldered to the board
- Telephone wire soldered to the 360 (copper?)
- Shorted both the top and bottom NAND data lines (and accidentally hit the middle power pin one time! NAND seems ok.)
- NO diode.
- Hooked directly to PC from 360 LPT connector, no cable
- LPT mode used: Bidirectional
For me, connected the LPT connector in the 360 directly up to the PC did the trick. No LPT cable. Its all working great and I'm not having any read errors! Checked in a hex editor, it looks like a valid NAND dump. Dumping a second nand as I speak.
This post has been edited by NLA: Jan 24 2010, 09:07 PM
Post by: spider861 on January 24, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
QUOTE(NLA @ Jan 24 2010, 08:55 PM)
Just thought I'd tell what worked for me: I was having the same problem with "Could Not Detect Flash Controller" and I was a bit annoyed. I'll be honest, I could be better at soldering to those tiny little spots on the motherboard, but after a few hours I did it, and the wires seem to be firmly connected.
Details:
- Falcon revision
- 5x100 Ohm 1-watt resistors in the LPT housing, not soldered to the board
- Telephone wire soldered to the 360 (copper?)
- Shorted both the top and bottom NAND data lines (and accidentally hit the middle power pin one time! NAND seems ok.)
- NO diode.
- Hooked directly to PC from 360 LPT connector, no cable
- LPT mode used: Bidirectional
For me, connected the LPT connector in the 360 directly up to the PC did the trick. No LPT cable. Its all working great and I'm not having any read errors! Checked in a hex editor, it looks like a valid NAND dump. Dumping a second nand as I speak.
how did you short the pints on the nand? Which ones did you do?
Post by: NLA on January 24, 2010, 02:59:00 PM
QUOTE(spider861 @ Jan 24 2010, 02:46 PM)
how did you short the pints on the nand? Which ones did you do?
Use a flathead screwdriver, be very gentle and connect at most either the bottom 9 or top 8 pins on the right side of the HYNIX, as they are the data lines. Image shamelessly stolen from the NAND Write-Protect hack X-S post:
You can see the four lines on the top and bottom in the actual image, and then the power-related lines in the middle. Don't touch the power lines!!
Post by: Peckish on January 25, 2010, 12:28:00 PM
I also got the "Could not detect a flash controller" message everytime I tried to read/write my console, even though I had followed every guide I could find on the subject. I eventually got success by connecting everything up as normal (console supply and interface plugged into the parallel port), shorting the data pins (41 - 44) and then sending the read command while the pins were still shorted out. As soon as I done this Nandpro worked immediately, at which point I removed the short on the pins.
Just as a test I got out a second box and hooked it up the same way and tried to read/write but once again I got the "Could not detect a flash controller" message. I then proceeded to short out data pins 41 - 44 and while keeping the short in place, sent the Nandpro command. Once again nandpro started working and began dumping.
I'm not sure if this is just something unique to my setup but it would not do any harm for everyone that is having problems to try this. If it does not work with data pins 41 - 44 then try the same procedure on pins 29 - 32.
Regards to all,
Peckish
Post by: Ruby Danger on January 25, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
Post by: AZImmortal on January 25, 2010, 10:00:00 PM
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Post by: kwalsh24 on February 02, 2020, 08:18:00 PM
Post by: Ruby Danger on February 02, 2020, 09:13:00 PM
Anyone find any tricks on this issue yet?
Post by: Ruby Danger on February 03, 2020, 02:20:00 PM
Might sound silly but I fixed my problem. I was having no luck get 2 dumps to even come close to each other - over 1000 non-matching blocks. Here is how I fixed it
I realized we had used 2 different CAT5 cables, 1 end to make the lpt and one end to the mobo. We actually made numerous versions of the cables but on the machine I was trying to dump, I had 2 different ends, so I used ends from the same cable and matched 100%. Go figure
Post by: kwalsh24 on February 03, 2020, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: kwalsh24 on January 28, 2010, 08:52:00 AM
Post by: hetster on February 05, 2010, 07:06:00 AM
i wired everything up and checked and double checked wiring with a multimeter and everything seems fine.
as this is my first attempt at dumping / jtagging nand i am just making sure i havent missed amything out.
i have a xenon board and used the revised jtaging points using the bridge and 2 switching diodes.
i have wired the lpt up the same as every guide out there with 100ohm 1/4 resistors..the total length is approx 1 foot maybe very slightly over. with the reistors i continualy get Could not detect a flash controller!. so i attached a diode to pin 11 at the lpt end with the black ring facing towards the 360 and away from lpt and again got Could not detect a flash controller!. so i removed all the resistors and diode and got it to start to dump but got read errors every step of the way from 0 onwards..so i added the diode back and still get read errors.
i have no smaller resistors yet so i am going to go and buy some smaller ones as i hear a few success stories with smaller resistors...is it a sign the wires are all soldered well that it attempts to dumps even though it fails?
i am also using the rj45 coupler and made sure all the points from the mobo matched those on the ltp with a multimeter whilst it was plugged into rj45..
i am going to test with smaller resistors and if that doesnt work i am going to ditch the rj45 and wire directly to the mobo..
thought i would ask for advise and tips while not doing it lol..ive been at it for 24 hours solid and getting pissed off now so i have put it away to gather myself again lol
Post by: dragoscojan on February 05, 2010, 07:17:00 AM
i dumped and wrote the nand on a zephyr,to jtag it.
unfortunately,all i get is RROD (0020).if i disconnect the jtag cables,it gives me e79.
so i flashed about 3 different xbr versions,dumped to verify it was wrote ok.
after i flashed another version,the console wouldn't turn on.tried to wrote again the nand,and surprise: "could not detect flash controller".i thought i was fucked,and bricked my console.
then i pluged in the power supply,connected the lpt cable,and started shorting out the pins on the nand flash chip,with a flathead screwdriver.while i was doing this,i sent an erase command in nandpro (nandpro lpt: -e16 0x000000).and voila,it erased the nand,and i was able to write another xbr.bin image.
now it still gives me 0020,but at least it turns on lol.
Post by: NLA on February 17, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
Simple fix: separate the two with electrical tape, and oila, nand dumping works beautifully. Its likely more often than not that a simple bridge or problem with the wiring is what causes the problem.
Post by: Zo0N3x on February 18, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
I have resoldered about 4 times, with different cables (first used IDE cables and now 24awg), with 100 ohm resistors and without, the diod in the mother board. Its IMPOSSIBLE !!!
I dont know what to do I want my jtagged xbox 360 
. I connect the LPT connector when the motherboard is out of the steel case, and off, without the AV cable.
When I tried with my win98 pc the pc detected a new hardware in LPT port after booting up, but it still doesnt work.
the cable lenght is about 30 cm.
I upload some pictures to help me.
Post by: flammingcowz on February 26, 2010, 12:26:00 AM
Post by: GameAddict20 on March 02, 2010, 01:25:00 AM
I first had kynar wires, resistors,diode and it failed to find it lots of times so i replaced the kynar with an ethernet cable and checked all the points were working using a multimeter on the correct pin and the solder point visible from under the board. Another problem i had was that i pushed my wire too far into the solder point and it was shorting on the case so i cut the bottom extruding bits. I resoldered some points that were abit dodgy(not soldered into exsisting microsoft solder), put the resistors and diodes on and connected it up and it dumped perfectly twice. So i guess just keep messing with it until it gives good flash config
Post by: Zo0N3x on March 03, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
Post by: thejipster on March 04, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
The ground point is the most difficult and must apply more heat in order to solder to properly melt and secure a connection.
Post by: spider861 on March 05, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
Post by: Ruiner420 on February 03, 2020, 03:09:00 AM
I came across a xenon console today that the owner said had had a few mod attempts previously, but nobody could get it to dump, with usb or lpt flasher.
I took a look at it and it gave me the "cannot detect a flash controller" error, with my same PC and resistor/diode setup that works with every other 360 I've tried (about 8 or so boards).
I did EVERYTHING to try and get it to dump, and concluded that the flash controller in the SB was permanently damaged. The xbox booted fine though.
I swapped nands with a rrod xenon board, and am now reading the flash of the good xbox from the rrod.
So if all else fails it could be the xbox itself, this one had a bad flash controller it seems.
Post by: ruddlescounty on February 03, 2020, 09:33:00 AM
any advice on lifting that nand out - i tried this a couple of weeks ago but gave up - too fiddly. i tried solder braid to remove all solder (went quite well) but couldnt get anything under the chip to apply a little upward pressure while i heated. thought i would end up lifting pads or something so gave up for another day. i did think of trying a heat gun but there looks to be too much plastic around to risk it.
i also noticed that with nothing connected i was getting a very low resistance to ground (60 ohm) on one pin of the lpt points. the others were 2.4M. i had this resistance on 2 boxes exhibiting the same "cannot find controller" error. hence my though of removing the nand. so another option was to replace the southbridge - but also way too risky!!
one of my boxes still boots fine btw. the other gives 0110 iirc.
cheers
Ruddles
Post by: Ruiner420 on February 03, 2020, 12:51:00 PM
I'm just saying it is a viable method to read the flash if nothing else works, I didn't say it was easy. It's on a similar level of difficulty as doing a 128mb ram upgrade on XB1, though less pins
Another word of advice: practice removing the nand from your donor/parts/rrod board before removing it from your good board. The board doesn't need to power up (rrod, missing parts, etc is fine), it just needs to get standby power, have a southbridge, and a nand. Don't be too afraid if you lift a pad, most of the ones that lift do so because they aren't connected to anything anyways.
Post by: calvin48202 on February 03, 2020, 02:18:00 PM
I am trying to JTAG my Xenon 360. I am using the Universal JTAG adapter. After many trials I finally got Nandpro to see the flash controller. I finally had to use solid core cat5 cable.
The problem that I am now encountering is I run nandpro using the following command
nandpro lpt: -r16 nandbackup.bin
I get the following errors
Error: 600 reading block 01
Error: 600 reading block 02
etc
I have looked on the internet, but do not see anything specifically mentioning this error with nandpro. If anyone could please give me a hand, it would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Calvin
Post by: Copter64 on April 01, 2010, 06:03:00 PM
Should I have the Male connector facing me or should I be looking at the LPT port on the computer to line the pins the pins up.
This one
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Or this one?
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so when I am looking at the wiring diagram on the 7 sins site which am I to look at?
Post by: pricer420 on May 14, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
Thanks
Rob
Post by: pricer420 on May 14, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
Thx
Rob
Post by: aerofx on June 02, 2010, 03:46:00 AM
QUOTE(Peckish @ Jan 25 2010, 12:28 PM)
Hello everyone.
I also got the "Could not detect a flash controller" message everytime I tried to read/write my console, even though I had followed every guide I could find on the subject. I eventually got success by connecting everything up as normal (console supply and interface plugged into the parallel port), shorting the data pins (41 - 44) and then sending the read command while the pins were still shorted out. As soon as I done this Nandpro worked immediately, at which point I removed the short on the pins.
Just as a test I got out a second box and hooked it up the same way and tried to read/write but once again I got the "Could not detect a flash controller" message. I then proceeded to short out data pins 41 - 44 and while keeping the short in place, sent the Nandpro command. Once again nandpro started working and began dumping.
I'm not sure if this is just something unique to my setup but it would not do any harm for everyone that is having problems to try this. If it does not work with data pins 41 - 44 then try the same procedure on pins 29 - 32.
Regards to all,
Peckish
I can confirm that this works. Thanks. But I made a different mistake, flashed xenon xellous to a jasper system and it wouldn't allow the me access to the nand anymore so I shorted pin 41-44 and got it to read again.
Post by: brandvegn on June 03, 2010, 01:12:00 PM
Post by: erak on December 08, 2010, 07:15:00 AM
"Could not detect a flash controller!"
I've tried to resolder all wires and also remove the diode. Will try to remove the resistors next.
Any ideas? Can adding the transistors and such disturb the lpt connection?
Post by: erak on December 11, 2010, 06:41:00 AM
QUOTE(erak @ Dec 8 2010, 03:15 PM)
I've tried to resolder all wires and also remove the diode. Will try to remove the resistors next.
Resoldered everything one more time and also tried removing the resistors. Didn't help.
Will just have to remove the jtag-components and see if it works...
Post by: mike12345678 on February 21, 2011, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: digipimp75 on February 21, 2011, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: GvM on June 23, 2011, 11:53:00 AM
Tried to shortcut the nand's pins - nothing happend... it even didn't blow lol
Tried turning the console on - didn't checked the av-output but the green lights blink like they should.
ps running nandpro while the console is on makes it turn off...
pps also do I really need the daughter pluged in? (that has the power-on button)
Post by: GvM on June 23, 2011, 01:12:00 PM
Testing LPT device address:0378
Using LPT device at address:0378
Flash Config: 0x00003F00
Block Size: 16KB Block Limits: 0x000000..0x00007F
File: c0.bin
Reading
Error: 0 reading block 0
Error: 0 reading block 1
Error: 0 reading block 2
Error: 0 reading block 3
Error: 0 reading block 4
...
gotta do resoldering tomorrow then.
Post by: GvM on June 24, 2011, 04:26:00 AM
it was faulty soldering or shitty wires problem. (i used ide wires before, now - utp cat5).
soldering done right through - i mean the wire get into the hole while get hot.
NO DIODES, NO RESISTORS.
ps also i soldered gnd wire on mb (j2b1.12 i think, but left it not connected to anywhere)
still i didn't soldered jtag itself, because i have a question.
So when I get the nand backup what is my next step? there is a lot diffirences in random tutorials.
Do I need xellous or it's an old thing and I just use the fbbuild on my dump and then flash it back to xbox? (i heard that freeboot switches to another nand? so do i have to use xbrebooter then?)
Should I solder jtag before writing new nand? or can I write it now, then do jtag wiring and boot right in fb?
plox i need ur helpfull answers guys I'm so nervous now (:
Post by: GvM on June 24, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
I don't get any errors but I can't get identical dumps, there's a LOT of differences in dumps.
Sometimes it can't even get 'Microsoft corporation' right.
Any ideas?
ps: also nandpro works for me only in spp lpt mode.
Post by: rigger66 on June 24, 2011, 08:26:00 AM
QUOTE(GvM @ Jun 24 2011, 03:12 PM)
okay... it reads but...
I don't get any errors but I can't get identical dumps, there's a LOT of differences in dumps.
Sometimes it can't even get 'Microsoft corporation' right.
Any ideas?
ps: also nandpro works for me only in spp lpt mode.
Ground the lpt case to the xbox 360 case ...That may solve your problems .
Regards
Rigger66
Post by: GvM on June 24, 2011, 10:05:00 AM
I wonder how should I do this?
Currently i got one free wire shown at right bottom here as GND soldered to motherboard. Should it be touching lpt's connector or what?
Post by: rigger66 on June 24, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
QUOTE(GvM @ Jun 24 2011, 05:05 PM)
rigger66, well the mobo is out of the xbox case
I wonder how should I do this?
Currently i got one free wire shown at right bottom here as GND soldered to motherboard. Should it be touching lpt's connector or what?
Look to step 2 for guidance...am sure this may be why your dumps don`t compare
Just wrap , clip a wire from the lpt outer case to the copper screw holes of the motherboard.
Tutorial help
"Step 2 Quote"
If for whatever reason you can't get two matching NAND dumps, then please do as follows:
If you're getting no errors in NandPro, but when you compare your dumps they never match, you need to ground the LPT cable.The un-shielded wire on the LPT cable (ie no plastic sleeve) is the ground, or if you've built your own cable from scratch, attach a wire from the metal chassis of the DB-25 connector. Attach this to the metal shielding of the 360 or one of the copper grnd points around the screw holes in the mobo and that should sort the problem.
Regards
Rigger66
Post by: GvM on June 24, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
Mostly i get around 4kb fine, but then - a lot of differences and like a 3 of 10 reads I get some misspelled Microsoft
Post by: rigger66 on June 24, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
QUOTE(GvM @ Jun 24 2011, 05:50 PM)
I tried this... same problem...
Mostly i get around 4kb fine, but then - a lot of differences and like a 3 of 10 reads I get some misspelled Microsoft
Try to change the ports in Bios...This may help..worth a shot.
Make sure you disable all Anti virus & firewalls
Bios Help
Regards
Rigger66
Post by: GvM on June 25, 2011, 03:54:00 AM
anyway, thanks for your suggestions rigger66
Post by: rigger66 on June 25, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
QUOTE(GvM @ Jun 25 2011, 10:54 AM)
well, I've soldered resistors back and hence NOW IT READS LIKE CHARMED.
anyway, thanks for your suggestions rigger66
Great News Mate! ............Well Done!!...
Regards
Rigger66
Post by: sibsoner on July 03, 2011, 04:29:00 PM
Post by: hangover on July 03, 2011, 10:46:00 PM
QUOTE(sibsoner @ Jul 4 2011, 08:29 AM)
Can I use the Team Xecuter Nand-X USB 360 Programmer Kit instead of making this wire?
Yes, and it reads faster and is more reliable.