Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 02:36:00 AM
Download NandPro Use this for reading and writing the on board 360 NAND.
High Res Xenon LPT Flashing Diagram
Also be sure to check that your read is a valid bin. Read it twice just to be sure.
QUOTE
Supported device interfaces:
USB:
LPC2148 Olimex USB header board
High performance 16MB/2Mins
LibUsb driver
LPT:
Parallel Printer Port, SPP mode
Low performance, 16MB/35mins (cpu dependant)
Dlportio printer port driver
Seven connections must be made from MAINBRD to the HW device interface.
MAINBRD connects as specified to either Olimex board, or a PC printer port.
ArmLpc Olimex LPT MAINBRD
SS EXT1-3 DB25.1 J1D2.2
MISO EXT1-6 DB25.11 J1D2.4
P0.28 EXT2-1 DB25.16 J2B1.6
GND EXT1-26 DB25.18 J1D2.6 or J2B1.12
MOSI EXT1-7 DB25.14 J1D2.1
SCK EXT1-5 DB25.2 J1D2.3
P0.29 EXT2-2 DB25.17 J2B1.5
USB Install:
Flash the .hex file to the LPC2148.
Connect LPC2148 to computer USB.
Point "found new hardware" to the "custom.inf"
Windows reports: "Your new hardware is ready to use"
LPT Install:
Some parallel ports run at 3.3v others at 5v. The MAINBRD is 3.3 volts.
Testing with 5 volt lpt and NO resistors didn't burn anything up. YMMV
It is recomnened to use 100 ohm series resistors
for all lpt connections except for DB25.11 and DB25.18 (GND).
This solution isn't perfect but you typically dont leave it hooked up forever anyway.
If someone wants to design and post a buffer circuit go right ahead. I can't be bothered
Run the port95nt.exe application to install the DlPortio driver
Usage:
Make connections to MAINBRD and run the app.
MAINBRD needs to be plugged in to AC power.
Actually powered on or not does not matter.
While running NandPro application reset will occur.
After nand operation is complete, reset will be released.
Typical command line:
Read entire 16M flash, including ECC:
NandPro lpt: -r16 nand.bin
Write entire 16M flash, including ECC:
NandPro lpt: -w16 nand.bin
READING WILL OVER-WRITE AN EXISTING FILE WITHOUT WARNING!
NEW LOG FILE WILL OVERWRITE OLD WITHOUT WARNING!
USB:
LPC2148 Olimex USB header board
High performance 16MB/2Mins
LibUsb driver
LPT:
Parallel Printer Port, SPP mode
Low performance, 16MB/35mins (cpu dependant)
Dlportio printer port driver
Seven connections must be made from MAINBRD to the HW device interface.
MAINBRD connects as specified to either Olimex board, or a PC printer port.
ArmLpc Olimex LPT MAINBRD
SS EXT1-3 DB25.1 J1D2.2
MISO EXT1-6 DB25.11 J1D2.4
P0.28 EXT2-1 DB25.16 J2B1.6
GND EXT1-26 DB25.18 J1D2.6 or J2B1.12
MOSI EXT1-7 DB25.14 J1D2.1
SCK EXT1-5 DB25.2 J1D2.3
P0.29 EXT2-2 DB25.17 J2B1.5
USB Install:
Flash the .hex file to the LPC2148.
Connect LPC2148 to computer USB.
Point "found new hardware" to the "custom.inf"
Windows reports: "Your new hardware is ready to use"
LPT Install:
Some parallel ports run at 3.3v others at 5v. The MAINBRD is 3.3 volts.
Testing with 5 volt lpt and NO resistors didn't burn anything up. YMMV
It is recomnened to use 100 ohm series resistors
for all lpt connections except for DB25.11 and DB25.18 (GND).
This solution isn't perfect but you typically dont leave it hooked up forever anyway.
If someone wants to design and post a buffer circuit go right ahead. I can't be bothered
Run the port95nt.exe application to install the DlPortio driver
Usage:
Make connections to MAINBRD and run the app.
MAINBRD needs to be plugged in to AC power.
Actually powered on or not does not matter.
While running NandPro application reset will occur.
After nand operation is complete, reset will be released.
Typical command line:
Read entire 16M flash, including ECC:
NandPro lpt: -r16 nand.bin
Write entire 16M flash, including ECC:
NandPro lpt: -w16 nand.bin
READING WILL OVER-WRITE AN EXISTING FILE WITHOUT WARNING!
NEW LOG FILE WILL OVERWRITE OLD WITHOUT WARNING!
Hawk
Edit: If you encounter problems when using the LPT interface as shown above, please refer to this post.
Post by: majinsoftware on August 19, 2009, 03:38:00 AM
Post by: Mr.RedRing on August 19, 2009, 03:57:00 AM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 04:25:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 19 2009, 04:38 AM) 
Thanks Mhawk134, Just to clear it up are we meant to match the colours?
Yeah connect the dots with wire and your all set.
QUOTE(Mr.RedRing @ Aug 19 2009, 04:57 AM)
Now once we are done with the read/write, do we need unsolder everything? Or can I leave it all connected, make it look nice on the back of my system to flash in the future?
You can unhook the stuff for the lpt port, but if you need to reflash you will have to hook it back up, as for the 330 ohm resistors i'm not really sure about. I would leave everything hooked up so that when the rebooters or whatever you want to try comes out you will not have to hook it back up.
Hawk
Post by: cliffyboro on August 19, 2009, 06:02:00 AM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 06:40:00 AM
QUOTE(cliffyboro @ Aug 19 2009, 07:02 AM)
So does the xbox still do what it's supposed to do with everything connected? I'm pretty confident in my soldering skills to do this but not so confident about having to take it all off lol.
Yeah It will stilll work with everything connected just like normal as long as it's not connected to the pc you'll be fine.
Hawk
Post by: cliffyboro on August 19, 2009, 08:29:00 AM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Aug 19 2009, 01:40 PM) 
Yeah It will stilll work with everything connected just like normal as long as it's not connected to the pc you'll be fine.
Hawk
Cool.
Quick question, are these the correct resistors I need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/80-x-100-Ohm-carbon-...id=p3286.c0.m14
cheers
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 08:42:00 AM
QUOTE(cliffyboro @ Aug 19 2009, 09:29 AM)
Cool.
Quick question, are these the correct resistors I need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.u...id=p3286.c0.m14
cheers
For the LPT port yes, but 80 is alot of resistors, also it's not always a mandatory thing to have the resistors there, it depends on the pc. Also it's very IMPORTANT that you have the 3x 330 ohm resistors to solder to the jtag, or else this is useless. Right now we can just boo Xell, but in the future we'll be able to boot new dashes, programs, OS's, emulators, ect.
Hawk
Post by: cliffyboro on August 19, 2009, 08:52:00 AM
I'm kinda just getting things ready for this although, I might get everything soldered in on my banned xenon. It's only sat there gathering dust anyway
Post by: DiaM0nd99 on August 19, 2009, 08:56:00 AM
I am planning to build this tonight.
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 09:16:00 AM
QUOTE(cliffyboro @ Aug 19 2009, 09:52 AM)
I'm gonna buy the stuff I need from maplins but I can't find them resistors on the site so I just used that as a reference. I'm certain they will have them in store so I'll most likely just make a list of everything and take it in for the sales assistants.
I'm kinda just getting things ready for this although, I might get everything soldered in on my banned xenon. It's only sat there gathering dust anyway
Must haves are 3-330 ohm resistors, wire db25 connector, solder, soldering iron, xbox, ect.
Hawk
Post by: benjmole on August 19, 2009, 09:21:00 AM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 09:25:00 AM
QUOTE(benjmole @ Aug 19 2009, 10:21 AM)
Mhawk. Don't suppose you know the alternative points to J1F1? Cause i'm not gonna flash a Xenon?
Sorry but no, that information has not been released at this time.
Hawk
Post by: RRODXbox on August 19, 2009, 10:22:00 AM
So, if I do all this. all I need to do it make a backup of my NAND and just flash the xenon-hack.bin?
Nice guide btw
Post by: artik on August 19, 2009, 10:34:00 AM
C:\Documents and Settings\artik\Desktop\NandPro20>NandPro.exe lpt: -r16 nand.bin
NandPro v2.0 by Tiros
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on August 19, 2009, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: artik on August 19, 2009, 10:50:00 AM
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on August 19, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
Does the 360 need to be powered on during reading/writing for this to function?
Post by: RolF2 on August 19, 2009, 02:33:00 PM
here is pic of old motherboard and alternative points for it :
(IMG:http://www.rolf2.co.cc/nohdmi.jpg)
and here is pic of newer board with hdmi :
(IMG:http://www.rolf2.co.cc/hdmi.jpg)
so i think we can use R2B19 and R2B16 as alternative points on newer motherboards, but where is R2B18 ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
R.
Post by: benjmole on August 19, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
QUOTE(RolF2 @ Aug 19 2009, 09:33 PM)
ok ,lets talk about J1F1 alternative points
here is pic of old motherboard and alternative points for it :
and here is pic of newer board with hdmi :
so i think we can use R2B19 and R2B16 as alternative points on newer motherboards, but where is R2B18 ?
R.
Nice dude. The whole alternative points thing for my Falcon is really starting to wazz me off. Haha.
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
QUOTE(FrostyTheSnowman @ Aug 19 2009, 01:51 PM)
Mhawk134:
Does the 360 need to be powered on during reading/writing for this to function?
The 360 just needs to be plugged into the power brick. Also some people are getting errors when reading the NAND, this is a known issue and I think Tiros is working on it. It has to do with hard ware issues.
Hawk
Post by: utar on August 19, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
Hawk
I was just wondering what exact type of parallel socket you are soldering the resistors and wire to. Do you have any pictures of the other side available?
Cheers
Utar
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 03:10:00 PM
QUOTE(utar @ Aug 19 2009, 04:07 PM)
Hawk
I was just wondering what exact type of parallel socket you are soldering the resistors and wire to. Do you have any pictures of the other side available?
Cheers
Utar
No I don't have any of the other side, I figured that was kinda obvious that it had to be the type that would fit in the back of the pc.
Hawk
Post by: red_ring_of_box on August 19, 2009, 03:18:00 PM
Post by: utar on August 19, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:10 PM)
No I don't have any of the other side, I figured that was kinda obvious that it had to be the type that would fit in the back of the pc.
Hawk
Ahh, I assumed you connected a printer cable to the PC then connected a separate socket which was connected to the 360 to that cable.
Utar
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 19, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
QUOTE(red_ring_of_box @ Aug 19 2009, 04:18 PM)
hey Mhawk134 how would we compare the nand reads(what I can assume are dumps) just copy two reads into a folder then use the same method in the Im Rick James Bitch method with command prompt? Sry I don't have a Xenon but I'm just wondering what to expect when the falcon boards can be dumped.
You can use a hex editor, and hash checker, and the Nand tools.
QUOTE(utar @ Aug 19 2009, 04:23 PM)
Ahh, I assumed you connected a printer cable to the PC then connected a separate socket which was connected to the 360 to that cable.
Utar
No I connect that straight to the back of the pc mother board.
Hawk
Post by: RRODXbox on August 19, 2009, 09:49:00 PM
Sorry if my question is obvious, just I'm trying to understand all this stuff at once
cheers.
Post by: majinsoftware on August 19, 2009, 10:40:00 PM
So Im guessing there arnt any loaders use so you will just be left with command line.
Im in the process or doing it now. 29mins left to write lol dang print port is slow, slower then dial up.
Also if your not good at soldering wait for some one to come up with a easy solder board.
Like how you had the LPC rebuild board on the xbox 1.6
Post by: RRODXbox on August 20, 2009, 12:21:00 AM
Im ok with soldering, Picked up a LPT plug and the resistors today, just got to get hold of a VGA cable or mod my xbox with a VGA socket and borrow a monitor
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 20, 2009, 12:41:00 AM
Shows the same thing that was posted a while back booting Xell. Just posting this so that people know what everybody else can do it also.
Also some people have a problem with there LPT port reading the flash. You may have to install a 1N914 diode, Tiros said any switching diode should work.
Hawk
Post by: Mr.RedRing on August 20, 2009, 12:49:00 AM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Aug 20 2009, 02:41 AM)
Shows the same thing that was posted a while back booting Xell. Just posting this so that people know what everybody else can do it also.
Also some people have a problem with there LPT port reading the flash. You may have to install a 1N914 diode, Tiros said any switching diode should work.
Hawk
Hey, thanks for the video. I really want to give this a go, but after it boots into Xell, what can I do? Can I load one of the older linux discs for the 360? Im not worried about my soldering messing up or anything, im more interested in what I do after Xell
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 20, 2009, 01:18:00 AM
QUOTE(Mr.RedRing @ Aug 20 2009, 01:49 AM)
Hey, thanks for the video. I really want to give this a go, but after it boots into Xell, what can I do? Can I load one of the older linux discs for the 360? Im not worried about my soldering messing up or anything, im more interested in what I do after Xell
Right now there isn't much more that can be done. You just have to wait until the rebooters, emus, os' are ready to be released. You can get your dvd key from the mother board though if you lost it.
Also here you guys go with another diagram. Some people where having issues with the lpt port. This should fix the error for those people. Again this is made possible by tiros, and tmbinc.
High Res Xenon Diagram with Diode
Hawk
Post by: torne on August 20, 2009, 04:38:00 AM
QUOTE(Mr.RedRing @ Aug 20 2009, 07:49 AM)
Hey, thanks for the video. I really want to give this a go, but after it boots into Xell, what can I do? Can I load one of the older linux discs for the 360? Im not worried about my soldering messing up or anything, im more interested in what I do after Xell
Yes, any linux disc that booted from Xell started via the King Kong hack should also work booting this way.
Post by: cliffyboro on August 20, 2009, 05:42:00 AM
Post by: majinsoftware on August 20, 2009, 05:44:00 AM
Doing another xbox now I first read worked.
2nd read now its saying fatial error.
Nothing changed, and doubble checked all the solder points and they are fine.
Post by: Kieranl on August 20, 2009, 09:08:00 AM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 20, 2009, 09:14:00 AM
QUOTE(cliffyboro @ Aug 20 2009, 06:42 AM)
Hawk, about the diode on the diagram, does it go straight from the motherboard to pin 11 or does it go to the point on the motherboard where it says R2D8?
It's going from the motherboard at J1D2.4 and from there to the DB25 connector. It just happened that the pic landed there when I mad it.
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 20 2009, 06:44 AM)
What makes it so you need the 1N914.
Doing another xbox now I first read worked.
2nd read now its saying fatial error.
Nothing changed, and doubble checked all the solder points and they are fine.
This is hardware based, so I would think that it would work the same, as long as your using the same pc. The diode just makes it more compatible with the pc lpt ports.
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Aug 20 2009, 10:08 AM)
ok so ive got a succesful nand read, now what do i do with it:S
As long as you've checked your image you can flash the hacked bin and watch Xell boot up so you can get your cpu key, from there you can decrypt the NAND dump that you have.
Hawk
Post by: utar on August 20, 2009, 09:42:00 AM
Hawk
Can you confirm the direction the diode needs to be attached. I assume that the black ring on the diode attaches to the motherboard as per the picture, but just wanted to check.
Thanks
Utar
Post by: Kieranl on August 20, 2009, 09:46:00 AM
Sorry for noobie questions and thanks in advance:)
Edit: Figured it out, for those who were somewhat lost like me ftp into xbins, go to xbox 360>free60>images>xenon image, download and flash to nand for xell bootup screen to get key!
This post has been edited by Kieranl: Aug 20 2009, 05:03 PM
Post by: xxpittbullxx on August 20, 2009, 09:52:00 AM
QUOTE(utar @ Aug 20 2009, 04:42 PM)
Hawk
Can you confirm the direction the diode needs to be attached. I assume that the black ring on the diode attaches to the motherboard as per the picture, but just wanted to check.
Thanks
Utar
yea black ring to the motherboard I was having problems with getting a dump at first after i installed the 1N941 diode to the wire coming from pin 11 it dumped with no problems
Post by: shrekan on August 20, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
Im looking at my Xenon's warranty label as i type, all I wanna do is rip it off and get soldering.
Also, any news on a method which doesnt involve the ancient LPT? 45 mins to write NAND lol
Would it be possible via USB?
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 20, 2009, 10:28:00 AM
QUOTE(shrekan @ Aug 20 2009, 11:13 AM)
I have a Xenon but wanted to keep it for live and use my Jasper for homebrew, does anyone have any details for the Jasper lpt method or know where i could find it?
Im looking at my Xenon's warranty label as i type, all I wanna do is rip it off and get soldering.
Also, any news on a method which doesnt involve the ancient LPT? 45 mins to write NAND lol
Would it be possible via USB?
Yeah you can use USB to flash in less then 2 minutes. And if that xenon has been on live in the past couple weeks or you where int eh update program you can't do anything with it. Tiros should be releasing the information on the other consoles soon.
Hawk
Post by: spike4real on August 20, 2009, 01:13:00 PM
EDIT - Ah, u need to solder the same but then u plug the wires into a USB Board such as
http://www.equinox-tech.com/products/details.asp?ID=1044
This post has been edited by spike4real: Aug 20 2009, 08:19 PM
Post by: Kieranl on August 20, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
This post has been edited by Kieranl: Aug 20 2009, 09:01 PM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 20, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Aug 20 2009, 03:00 PM)
I just finished reading and writing my xbox nand, it was on when i started then turned off which i have heared is due to the SMC, now my xbox is unresponsive to turning on? is there a way to reactivate the SMC am i missing something here?
Yeah the system will go down once the pc detects it due to the reset. What NAND did you flash? Did you check your NAND dump when you first got it? How many dumps to you take?
Hawk
Post by: Kieranl on August 20, 2009, 04:58:00 PM
Post by: dave_birdi2007 on August 20, 2009, 04:59:00 PM
Post by: geep6 on August 20, 2009, 06:05:00 PM
Post by: majinsoftware on August 20, 2009, 08:15:00 PM
Also unplug the lpt port when you go to turn it on or it will just not boot or rrod.
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 20, 2009, 09:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Aug 20 2009, 05:58 PM)
Hey I took two dumps with proper id's then flashed with xenon_hacked image and it is just unresponsive to everything i'm not sure what to do with it
You have to use a VGA cable, does the unit turn on?
QUOTE(dave_birdi2007 @ Aug 20 2009, 05:59 PM)
Hey there, just dumped my nand. How do i go about obtaning the dvd key from the dump or do i need to flash over a the xell loader?
You have to flash xell and get ur cpu key to decrpt the file, I'll make a tut for this in the coming days.
QUOTE(geep6 @ Aug 20 2009, 07:05 PM)
i read out my nand and it looked good flashed with xeon.bin and it rrrod on me checked the error code 0022 flashed back with original bin and it does nothing so guess it was a bad dump flashed back with xeon.bin and it is rrod no problems with rrod before hand any ideas as to why it rrod should still work with xeon.bin right
you should of flashed xenon_hack.bin, also be sure you had a xenon motherboard, and that you put the 3 330ohm resistors in the right place. did you mess with any of the xclamps? If you flashed the hacked bin and it gave you the rrod I'm not sure what would cause that.
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 20 2009, 09:15 PM)
Make sure you have video cable in when you go to turn it on,
Also unplug the lpt port when you go to turn it on or it will just not boot or rrod.
Yeah and remember you must hve VGA at this moment in time.
Hawk
Post by: geep6 on August 20, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 20, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
QUOTE(geep6 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:27 PM)
bad spelling on my part xenon_hack.bin is what i flashed to my xenon motherboard is there any way to look at the image that i extracted to see if it a valid image at all this board is a microsoft refurb from about 8 months ago it had kernel 7xxx on it before i tried this is it possible that the image is just not right for this board for some reason it is a xenon motherboard
The good thing about a xenon is that the nand images can be interchanged at least for this hack anyway they can. Try to read your image in flash tool, how many times to u get a dump?
Hawk
Post by: geep6 on August 20, 2009, 10:12:00 PM
i also read about the chips having bad sectors would this have anything to do with this or does the smc correct this while writing
Post by: danked on August 20, 2009, 10:15:00 PM
This post has been edited by danked: Aug 21 2009, 05:16 AM
Post by: majinsoftware on August 20, 2009, 11:14:00 PM
Lol one computer pin 1 starts at the top of the port, My other computer thats I use for modding pin 1 starts on the bottom.
Post by: majinsoftware on August 20, 2009, 11:52:00 PM
but my 3rd doesnt want to read.
with fast switching diode it gives me
QUOTE
FlashConfig:00012000
Starting Block:0x000000
Ending Block:0x0003FF
Press any key to begin reading nand
Error: 0 reading block 0
Error: 0 reading block 1
with out it I just get
QUOTE
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 21, 2009, 12:14:00 AM
QUOTE(geep6 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:12 PM)
i only took one dump of the firmware and the flash tool will not open it or the xenon_hack.bin for me don't know if it just me not knowing how to use that tool or what
i also read about the chips having bad sectors would this have anything to do with this or does the smc correct this while writing
If you only took one dump and you couldn't open it you should of known something wasn't right. Pm me with a link of the dump and I'll look at it, your copy not the hacked version.
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 21 2009, 12:52 AM)
2 xboxs done and working
but my 3rd doesnt want to read.
with fast switching diode it gives me
with out it I just get
Try it without the diode, but I had that error and the diode was the cure.
Hawk
Post by: majinsoftware on August 21, 2009, 12:19:00 AM
QUOTE
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
Post by: kotix on August 21, 2009, 01:16:00 AM
QUOTE(danked @ Aug 21 2009, 04:15 AM)
Will Nand pro work with a 64bit OS ?, cause it not working for me.
A guy on xboxhacker post a link to 64bit drivers:
http://lcdhype.condense.de/index.php?act=A...986&index=0
Try it and tell us if it works (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: majinsoftware on August 21, 2009, 02:40:00 AM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 21, 2009, 03:46:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 21 2009, 01:19 AM)
with out the diode its giving me
Maybe check the mode for your lpt port in your bios settings. Try EPP or APC, recheck the wires, or you may have to try another pc.
Hawk
Post by: utar on August 21, 2009, 06:42:00 AM
Hawk
Can I trouble you with another question?
I've gone out and bought everything I need (thought I was given the wrong resistors at first before realising you read 5 band ones in a different way). My question is regarding the wire - I have bought some single strand 0.6mm wire and the guy in the shop said it was only rated for 1 amp. Now I'm guessing that this is plenty but just wanted to check.
Cheers
Utar
Post by: dave_birdi2007 on August 21, 2009, 06:48:00 AM
How does the NAND cryptography work? Is there any info out there on this?
Post by: majinsoftware on August 21, 2009, 07:00:00 AM
dvdkey
serial
region
drive make
mfd
Post by: dave_birdi2007 on August 21, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
This post has been edited by dave_birdi2007: Aug 21 2009, 04:05 PM
Post by: Kieranl on August 21, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Aug 21 2009, 04:09 AM)
You have to use a VGA cable, does the unit turn on?
Hawk
No i plug the unit in, plug the vga in, press the power button on the unit and it remains completely unresponsive, as if i were trying to turn it on wihtout the power plugged in, i feel like the unit has not reset the SMC after nand flashing has begun, maybe ill try reflashing the original nand dump and hope for the best (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
wait* just re read your post, you NEED a vga? not A/V? in that case ill go buy one but the xbox is still completely unresponsive? is this normal?
This post has been edited by Kieranl: Aug 21 2009, 06:19 PM
Post by: Kieranl on August 21, 2009, 12:55:00 PM
Post by: shrekan on August 21, 2009, 03:11:00 PM
This post has been edited by shrekan: Aug 21 2009, 10:15 PM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 21, 2009, 03:48:00 PM
QUOTE(utar @ Aug 21 2009, 07:42 AM)
Hawk
Can I trouble you with another question?
I've gone out and bought everything I need (thought I was given the wrong resistors at first before realising you read 5 band ones in a different way). My question is regarding the wire - I have bought some single strand 0.6mm wire and the guy in the shop said it was only rated for 1 amp. Now I'm guessing that this is plenty but just wanted to check.
Cheers
Utar
I use just ribbon cable oer 30gauge wire.
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 21 2009, 08:00 AM)
nand has the keyvault which has all the info, I belive.
dvdkey
serial
region
drive make
mfd
Yeah that is correct.
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Aug 21 2009, 01:55 PM)
still nothing after vga cable attached, attempting to reflash original dump after resoldering to make it cleaner
Yeah VGA is required it's the only mode supportes with the hacked_xenon.bin.
QUOTE(shrekan @ Aug 21 2009, 04:11 PM)
Out off interest, why is it neccessary to connect the 360 with a VGA cable? If I were to guess, i'd say that the GPU isn't fully functional when your dumping the NAND?
See above, the vga cable has to be connected when you go to test on the tv.
Hawk
Post by: HoRnEyDvL on August 21, 2009, 08:00:00 PM
Does the diode need to be directly soldered onto the motherboard or can we solder inside the D25 port shell next the same way we did with the 100ohm resistors its self? or anywhere on the cable for that matter?
Post by: RolF2 on August 21, 2009, 08:21:00 PM
QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Aug 22 2009, 05:00 AM)
Hawk or any 1 else out there.
Does the diode need to be directly soldered onto the motherboard or can we solder inside the D25 port shell next the same way we did with the 100ohm resistors its self? or anywhere on the cable for that matter?
same as resistors
R.
Post by: majinsoftware on August 21, 2009, 09:32:00 PM
It read everything but I get 3 errors in the same place with the same error code.
dumped it twice and hash matches even with that errors,
Error 250 block 24,27,29
Im guessing it might be corruption on the nand so do you think its ok to write the hack.bin or should I keep trying intill I dont get those errors.
Post by: RRODXbox on August 21, 2009, 10:57:00 PM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 21, 2009, 11:25:00 PM
QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Aug 21 2009, 09:00 PM)
Hawk or any 1 else out there.
Does the diode need to be directly soldered onto the motherboard or can we solder inside the D25 port shell next the same way we did with the 100ohm resistors its self? or anywhere on the cable for that matter?
The diode should be soldered to the board of the 360. As this has been the most effective way for most people. Those that solder to the db25 still get the same errors, but once soldered to the MB it was fine. I know from personal experience that this happened to me, and so I put the diode's on the board.
QUOTE(RRODXbox @ Aug 21 2009, 11:57 PM)
Best to run it past Tmpbinc, I had some 258 errors that were the same over a few reads, he said they should be nothing to worry about and he was right, My dump runs fine after flashing Xenon_hack.bin then flashing nand.bin back
tiros is who does the coding for NandPro not tmbinc. He knows about it of coarse, but tiros was the author.
Hawk
Post by: utar on August 22, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
Hawk
Just a quick post to say thanks for your great diagram. This made it really clear what need to be wired to where.
I have just successfully flashed one of my 360, and more surprising given my soldering skills it actually worked first time!
Cheers
Utar
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 22, 2009, 04:09:00 PM
Quick note for everyone out there if it doesn't work the first time and you have checked your wires, try a different pc because not all of them are the same and some are stubborn, also change different modes, like AT, EPP AND EPC in your bios settings.
Hawk
Post by: majinsoftware on August 22, 2009, 08:41:00 PM
And finally the older the computer is the more likely the parallel port will work.
Iv got a parallel port to usb adapter ordered so I try that out when it arrives on tuesday, Only cost me $3 so no loss if it doesn't.
The easyest wire iv found to use is solid core network cable.
Just get your soldering iron heat up the back of the board where your putting the wire and you can push it through the hole, Then trim it and add some more solder.
Post by: M37 on August 22, 2009, 09:24:00 PM
when reading I get
Error: 258 reading block 16F
when compared in winhex this is very few differences that all look something like
5EB712: C0 E0
5EB722: E0 C0
5EB901: C0 E0
5EB908: C0 E0
5EB918: C0 E0
Does this even matter? all the backups open in 360FlashTool so they are somewhat valid.
Post by: Hellzone on August 22, 2009, 09:42:00 PM
Post by: cory1492 on August 23, 2009, 01:15:00 AM
QUOTE(M37 @ Aug 22 2009, 09:24 PM)
I've made a few backups but so far none are 100% the same
when reading I get
Error: 258 reading block 16F
when compared in winhex this is very few differences that all look something like
5EB712: C0 E0
5EB722: E0 C0
5EB901: C0 E0
5EB908: C0 E0
5EB918: C0 E0
Does this even matter? all the backups open in 360FlashTool so they are somewhat valid.
Block 0x16F goes from 0x5E9E00 to 0x5EE000, as far as I can tell from tmbinc's comments error 258 is due to a 'bad block' (normal for NAND, though dumping software usually interprets such an error internally and dumps the equivalent of an erased block instead) - so long as your diffs all fall in the range it reports such a bad block error in then you should be fine.
Keep in mind, using a pre-built image from someone else with bad blocks in it could affect your ability to restore to original later or may even have issues because of an unreliable block where payload data is. At the same time, having bad blocks and flashing a pre-built image that has none could equally cause issues if the bad block is 'reset' (the spare area contains a bit that the software uses to tell a bad block - if it really is bad it may become impossible to set that bit again.) All in all bad blocks are a good thing (they stop NAND from being fully faulty when just a page is unreliable) but I'm not sure how well they are handled by this software considering no one seems to know exactly what errors mean what.
BTW, for 16M to 64M NAND each block has 32 pages, and each page has 528bytes of data to it (made of 512 data + 16 spare), in case you or anyone else wants to calculate it (0x16F*0d528*0d32).
Post by: majinsoftware on August 23, 2009, 01:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Hellzone @ Aug 23 2009, 05:42 AM)
So what about PCI cards that have parallel ports ? I feel like picking one up tomorrow
When you get one post back your resaults.
Should work if its in the address range nandpro checks.
Post by: Hellzone on August 23, 2009, 01:43:00 AM
Im referring to this btw http://www.logic-sunrise.com/forums/topic/...e-without-chip/
Post by: Hellzone on August 23, 2009, 02:56:00 AM
Forgot to show you my wireing.... i cant get close ups sadly because my 7.1mp cam wont focus like it should ..
"Note the FirstGen heat sink is getting abused" I bought falcon heatsinks for this box
, no need on making in mine and then having it break 
I think ill cut a hole in the back of the metal and mount it.
Post by: majinsoftware on August 23, 2009, 03:13:00 AM
You dont want the heat of the gpu heatsink to melt the plastic casing and short out.
Post by: Hellzone on August 23, 2009, 03:57:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 23 2009, 10:13 AM)
Personally id move the wires for the jtag hack to the go up by the hdd plug.
You dont want the heat of the gpu heatsink to melt the plastic casing and short out.
Thats the way they are now.
Btw this is the card that im getting tomorrow.
Made by Inland
http://www.frys.com/product/5850773?site=s...CH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
Cheep but hopefully it will work, ill let you know.
Post by: utar on August 23, 2009, 03:58:00 AM
QUOTE(M37 @ Aug 23 2009, 04:24 AM)
I've made a few backups but so far none are 100% the same
when reading I get
Error: 258 reading block 16F
when compared in winhex this is very few differences that all look something like
5EB712: C0 E0
5EB722: E0 C0
5EB901: C0 E0
5EB908: C0 E0
5EB918: C0 E0
Does this even matter? all the backups open in 360FlashTool so they are somewhat valid.
I had two 250 errors during my reading and there was a one byte difference between the two dumps I made. I decided to risk it and the reflash worked fine.
Utar
Post by: utar on August 23, 2009, 04:21:00 AM
One other thing - I see there is data in the hacked firmware in those locations. My errors weren't at the start so it may well be risky you attempting a reflash.
Utar
Post by: Kieranl on August 23, 2009, 09:18:00 AM
Post by: ToBbErT on August 23, 2009, 10:24:00 AM
Post by: Martinchris23 on August 23, 2009, 01:30:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Aug 23 2009, 05:24 PM)
I will be very gratefull if someone posted a simple tutorial on how to connect the LPC2148 Olimex USB header board. Tia!
Hi- from the original post:
QUOTE
USB:
LPC2148 Olimex USB header board
High performance 16MB/2Mins
LibUsb driver
LPC2148 Olimex USB header board
High performance 16MB/2Mins
LibUsb driver
Straightforward enough - here's a link to the product / pinout:
http://www.olimex.co.../lpc-h2148.html
QUOTE
Seven connections must be made from MAINBRD to the HW device interface.
MAINBRD connects as specified to either Olimex board, or a PC printer port.
ArmLpc Olimex LPT MAINBRD
SS EXT1-3 DB25.1 J1D2.2
MISO EXT1-6 DB25.11 J1D2.4
P0.28 EXT2-1 DB25.16 J2B1.6
GND EXT1-26 DB25.18 J1D2.6 or J2B1.12
MOSI EXT1-7 DB25.14 J1D2.1
SCK EXT1-5 DB25.2 J1D2.3
P0.29 EXT2-2 DB25.17 J2B1.5
MAINBRD connects as specified to either Olimex board, or a PC printer port.
ArmLpc Olimex LPT MAINBRD
SS EXT1-3 DB25.1 J1D2.2
MISO EXT1-6 DB25.11 J1D2.4
P0.28 EXT2-1 DB25.16 J2B1.6
GND EXT1-26 DB25.18 J1D2.6 or J2B1.12
MOSI EXT1-7 DB25.14 J1D2.1
SCK EXT1-5 DB25.2 J1D2.3
P0.29 EXT2-2 DB25.17 J2B1.5
Ok, this is a table but looks confusing due to forum text layout - strip out the stuff we don't need and use the LPT pinout as a reference as well as the LPT mainboard pinout (http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/lpc-h2148-pins.pdf). Instead of wiring from the 360 board to the LPT plug, you're going from the 360 board to the USB device.
So replace :
Pin 1 on LPT plug with EXT1-3 on USB Device
Pin 11 on LPT plug with EXT1-6 on USB Device
Pin 16 on LPT plug with EXT2-1 on USB Device
Pin 18 on LPT plug with EXT1-26 on USB Device
Pin 14 on LPT plug with EXT1-7 on USB Device
Pin 2 on LPT plug with EXT1-5 on USB Device
Pin 17 on LPT plug with EXT2-2 on USB Device
So the wiring to the 360 mainboard is exactly the same. The 3x330ohm bridges won't change either since they're needed to fire up the Xell (short them out or remove them and you'll get error 79).
QUOTE
USB Install:
Flash the .hex file to the LPC2148.
Connect LPC2148 to computer USB.
Point "found new hardware" to the "custom.inf"
Windows reports: "Your new hardware is ready to use"
Flash the .hex file to the LPC2148.
Connect LPC2148 to computer USB.
Point "found new hardware" to the "custom.inf"
Windows reports: "Your new hardware is ready to use"
As above - your new device should be accessible via nandpro as an lpt device.
Post by: ToBbErT on August 23, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
cheers
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Aug 23 2009, 09:35 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on August 23, 2009, 02:46:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Aug 23 2009, 09:34 PM)
You really explained it clear and simple, thanks alot man!
cheers
no probs. Now, if someone could let me know if it's possible to do this with an Infectus, I'd be very grateful
Post by: Hellzone on August 23, 2009, 07:12:00 PM
Im hooked into the power.
Here is what NandPro tells me
(IMG:http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8953/checki.png)
When the driver is installed and i try and power the 360 with the port hooked up it doesn't power on, how ever when its unplugged the system boots right up
Any Ideas ?
This post has been edited by Hellzone: Aug 24 2009, 02:14 AM
Post by: majinsoftware on August 23, 2009, 07:37:00 PM
Try changing the adress of the parrallel port card.
You can see the addresses it check on your image, go into device manager and see if you can set it as once of them.
Or if it has a bootable bios on computer powerup, Some times they do its like push CTRL+T, it should say anyway if it does.
Or you can ask Tiros to make a modified version that searches the address of you card.
This post has been edited by majinsoftware: Aug 24 2009, 02:39 AM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 23, 2009, 07:38:00 PM
Hawk
Post by: Hellzone on August 23, 2009, 10:51:00 PM
This post has been edited by Hellzone: Aug 24 2009, 05:53 AM
Post by: majinsoftware on August 23, 2009, 10:58:00 PM
Dont trash it, you just need to get nandpro to look on a different address. Wait a awhile and a new version should come out or some one will hex edit it to search on custom addresses.
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on August 24, 2009, 12:16:00 AM
1. As said before by Hawk, if you are getting an incorrect FlashConfig please MAKE SURE that your diode is on the motherboard side of the cable and not inside/connected to your LPT port connector. (I tried this both ways, even when wired correctly the diode STILL NEEDS to be on the motherboard side of the cable, not at the LPT connector side of the cable, I would imagine that the diode being too close to the LPT port causes timing issues, which is why you need to do it this way)
2. If you have a really long cable (1 meter or more in length) then the 100 Ohm resistors will cause NandPro to not detect the NAND controller. If you are unable to detect the NAND controller and you are using a fairly long cable (1 meter or more in length) you NEED to remove the resistors, or else it will not work.
3. If you are having reading issues (dumps not matching or multiple read errors) try using shielded cable instead of non-shielded cable. And if you are using shielded cable, MAKE SURE the shielding of the cable is grounded at both ends. (i.e. ground one end of the shielding in your cable to the plating of the DB25 connector, and ground the other end of the shielding in your cable to the 360's chassis)
I hope these tips help. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
This post has been edited by FrostyTheSnowman: Aug 24 2009, 07:18 AM
Post by: mafiafan123 on August 24, 2009, 01:10:00 AM
Post by: Mhawk134 on August 24, 2009, 01:59:00 AM
QUOTE(mafiafan123 @ Aug 24 2009, 02:10 AM)
linux using xell now but still no audio
Ha that video is old, check this one out it's actually running linux now.
Hawk
Post by: mafiafan123 on August 24, 2009, 02:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Aug 24 2009, 12:59 AM)
Ha that video is old, check this one out it's actually running linux now.
Hawk
lol u posted the video i ment to
Post by: HeenHill on August 24, 2009, 05:59:00 AM
Where does it lead?
Edit: Is it meant to go to pin 17 on the parallel port?
This post has been edited by HeenHill: Aug 24 2009, 01:01 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on August 24, 2009, 06:33:00 AM
QUOTE(HeenHill @ Aug 24 2009, 12:59 PM)
I got everything wired up, except for one wire: Pin 5 on J2B1 (Orange 5 on the rightmost jtag in the picture)
Where does it lead?
Edit: Is it meant to go to pin 17 on the parallel port?
Yes, it goes to pin 17 on the parallel port. The numbering is what confused me at first (as it refers to the position on the header) - it might have been clearer to do a simpler system showing pin 1 on parallel port = pin 1 on 360 etc, since the technical numbering is supplied with the nandpro download.
What I would suggest is once you've dumped the NAND, to run Degrader v1.1 with the 1BL key (DD88AD0C9ED669E7B56794FB68563EFA) and check to ensure that no bad blocks are showing. If they are, re-dump and try again. I didn't get any errors when dumping one of my NANDs but I got bad blocks when opening it up
. I've got the CPU key and the KV.bin tho - just got to work out a way to recover it
Post by: HeenHill on August 24, 2009, 06:56:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Aug 24 2009, 08:33 AM)
Yes, it goes to pin 17 on the parallel port. The numbering is what confused me at first (as it refers to the position on the header) - it might have been clearer to do a simpler system showing pin 1 on parallel port = pin 1 on 360 etc, since the technical numbering is supplied with the nandpro download.
All right, thanks. The colors didn't look the same to me, but I guess it was just an optical illusion since the numbers are black on the JTAG and white on the parallel port. Not the best diagram, but certainly not the worst.
Post by: maximilian0017 on August 24, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
QUOTE(FrostyTheSnowman @ Aug 24 2009, 07:16 AM)
2. If you have a really long cable (1 meter or more in length) then the 100 Ohm resistors will cause NandPro to not detect the NAND controller. If you are unable to detect the NAND controller and you are using a fairly long cable (1 meter or more in length) you NEED to remove the resistors, or else it will not work.
Please correct me when i'm wrong but if someone is using a 5volt lpt port and has problems with the wiring they could potentially blow up their xbox with this tip.
Just measured 14 meters of awg26 thin utp cable as a test and it had only 2,4 ohms per wire.....
Personaly i would not leave out the resistors, just replace the 100 ohms with a smaller value like 50/20/10 ohms when having trouble.( if they ask more than €0,15 per resistor they are expensive, so take home some more when you are making a cable)
You can easely check the resistor values here if you get them husseled up:
Resistor color code calculator
Also a simple multimeter will cost almost nothing at the hardware store, easy to have around
You can also check if you have a 3.3volt or a 5volt port by mesuring pin d0-7
Pinout LPT port
Please measure d0-7 because the other pins mostly have 5v for compatibility reasons
If you want to check if your port is stil working/debug your cable try the following:
1. Open C++ PortIO and select HEX under format( C++ PortIO is installed with the Port95nt.exe)
2. Adres is the adres of your parralel port (0x378 for lpt1 etc, check under the lpt1 properties of the windows device manager)
3. If you change "value", do-d7 will change to:
0x00 d0-d7 0v
0xFF d0-d7 3,3v
0x55 d0=3,3v, d1=0v, d2=3,3v, etc
0xAA d0=0v, d1=3,3v, d2=0v, etc
If you connect your cable(best without xbox connected or at least disconnected from 110/220v) and check the voltages at the end, it is easy to check for shorts etc if you use all of the above values.
You can easely make more values by setting windows calculator to scientific and to BIN, input something like 11110000 and clicking on HEX
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on August 24, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
Quoted from the NandPro readme:
QUOTE
Some parallel ports run at 3.3v others at 5v. The MAINBRD is 3.3 volts.
Testing with 5 volt lpt and NO resistors didn't burn anything up. YMMV (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
It is recomnened to use 100 ohm series resistors
for all lpt connections except for DB25.11 and DB25.18 (GND).
This solution isn't perfect but you typically dont leave it hooked up forever anyway.
If someone wants to design and post a buffer circuit go right ahead. I can't be bothered (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
So as far as I can tell, it should be safe, according to Tiros.
But yes you may be right about the 5v LPT port on *some* PCs being unsafe, but this is the only way I was able to make it work with a *fairly* long cable (1.5 meters), otherwise it refused to detect the NAND controller with the resistors in place.
This post has been edited by FrostyTheSnowman: Aug 24 2009, 10:23 PM
Post by: 4NZ33 on August 24, 2009, 03:29:00 PM
I want to try this on a 2006 box pre hdmi should this work?
Post by: X-hacker on August 24, 2009, 03:52:00 PM
Noone seems to have answered my question...
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on August 24, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
QUOTE(X-hacker @ Aug 24 2009, 03:52 PM)
Will this work by flashing with Infectus?
Noone seems to have answered my question...
Yes it should work just fine, as long as you have the JTAG resistors in place. (they are necessary to boot Xell, i'm assuming you are referring to this)
Post by: X-hacker on August 24, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on August 24, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
QUOTE(X-hacker @ Aug 25 2009, 12:02 AM)
Ah ok... So the 330ohm resistors are mandatory for this loader to work?
yes - if you don't connect the 330Ohm resistors, you'll just get E79..
Post by: X-hacker on August 24, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
I've tried the loader with a Zephyr (HDMI) console - DOES NOT POWER AT ALL after hacked.bin
ALTHOUGH... I may have found an alternative for the newer boards. I'll post up some pics in a sec...
Post by: majinsoftware on August 24, 2009, 10:05:00 PM
Post by: Relapse75 on August 24, 2009, 10:14:00 PM
QUOTE(X-hacker @ Aug 24 2009, 09:46 PM)
Ok, done my first machine.
I've tried the loader with a Zephyr (HDMI) console - DOES NOT POWER AT ALL after hacked.bin
ALTHOUGH... I may have found an alternative for the newer boards. I'll post up some pics in a sec...
Good luck on finding the last point because two are easy to find but the last one isn't labeled the same from what I've gathered. And that bin is called Xenon for a reason man, it's for xenon only, they dont wont to release them all at once so people would be cross flashing bins thats why it's going a few at a time. You better hope you can reflash that with the stock NAND, also it might not recognize it because the xenon bin is different then the one for a zephyr. Tiros said there was a trick to jumping a pin on the chip to make it think it was blank, but it's hard to do he said, but it's not impossible.
Post by: DuggyUK on August 25, 2009, 04:02:00 AM
Post by: MasterGouken on August 25, 2009, 04:39:00 AM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Aug 25 2009, 11:02 AM)
Would the extract work on a 3ROD box?. I have a Xenon that's dead and will get it heat gunned but just as a test was wondering if this will stop the extract of the EPROM. Logic tells me it wont as powering of the eprom should always happen, irrespective of the state of the xbox. It's a nice way to test the LPT setup works without risking too much if it all fails.
Im interested in knowing this too. I have my launch xenon here with 3rl (been fixed multiple times) and would like to use it for the hack if possible (as a test prior to using a newer console).
This post has been edited by MasterGouken: Aug 25 2009, 11:40 AM
Post by: majinsoftware on August 25, 2009, 04:52:00 AM
Post by: MasterGouken on August 25, 2009, 06:14:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 25 2009, 11:52 AM)
Should work fine aslong as the rrod isnt because of something power related and causing the power brick to go red.
Excellent, now i just need a pc with a parallel port
Post by: maximilian0017 on August 25, 2009, 08:56:00 AM
QUOTE(FrostyTheSnowman @ Aug 24 2009, 10:15 PM)
So as far as I can tell, it should be safe, according to Tiros.
YMMV (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) says enough i think.
The best way for this to work is when you have guidelines that work for everybody, noob proof.
It would be nice to have a guide that incorperates everything we learned here but everyone uses a different method so it is hard to filter the info.
Do you have an option to try 50/20/10 ohms resistors?, would be very interesting.
What kind of cable did you use? (gues: printer cable with the end cut off?)
Tiros: can you give us some insight for using the diode?, voltage drop or 4 ns delay?
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on August 25, 2009, 09:29:00 AM
QUOTE(maximilian0017 @ Aug 25 2009, 08:56 AM)
YMMV
says enough i think.The best way for this to work is when you have guidelines that work for everybody, noob proof.
It would be nice to have a guide that incorperates everything we learned here but everyone uses a different method so it is hard to filter the info.
Do you have an option to try 50/20/10 ohms resistors?, would be very interesting.
What kind of cable did you use? (gues: printer cable with the end cut off?)
Tiros: can you give us some insight for using the diode?, voltage drop or 4 ns delay?
Actually it is a shielded 8-wire PlayStation2 extension cable w/ends chopped off. (I chose this cable type for the shielding, IMO a cable that is meant to program a NAND chip should always be shielded)
Let it be known that my LPT port does work correctly with the 100 Ohm resistors in place, but only with cables that are less than 2ft in length, anything longer and I have to remove the resistors to detect the NAND controller.
I would imagine that you are correct about the lower ohm resistors, but I haven't tested this myself.
Post by: Relapse75 on August 25, 2009, 01:29:00 PM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Aug 25 2009, 06:02 AM)
Would the extract work on a 3ROD box?. I have a Xenon that's dead and will get it heat gunned but just as a test was wondering if this will stop the extract of the EPROM. Logic tells me it wont as powering of the eprom should always happen, irrespective of the state of the xbox. It's a nice way to test the LPT setup works without risking too much if it all fails.
Yes it will work, as I dont have heatsinks on once xbox and it just RROD, you will have to get it to boot at least once so you can get the CPU keys to decrypt the NAND if you want to fully test your NAND dump.
Post by: maximilian0017 on August 25, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
QUOTE(FrostyTheSnowman @ Aug 25 2009, 04:29 PM)
Actually it is a shielded 8-wire PlayStation2 extension cable w/ends chopped off.
Hahaha, a Playstation2 extension cable, no way i would guess that.
(Good use of the competitors parts)
Could you measure the resistance of one of the wires? and the voltage on d0-d7 of your printer port?
Shielded should be better, but it may also cause your problems with the longer cable.
Did you connect the shielding to the Xbox outer casing and the shield of the pc?
Use to work for a big telecom firm and have seen some weird shit with different sorts of cables.
Post by: ToBbErT on August 25, 2009, 02:27:00 PM
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1839/lpc2148.jpg
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Aug 25 2009, 09:32 PM
Post by: X-hacker on August 25, 2009, 08:23:00 PM
Read time - Approx. 3 minutes
Write time - Approx. 10 minutes
Erase time - 1 second
Post by: majinsoftware on August 25, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
Cant try intill I get something faster then flashing with lpt. Take a hour to write for me over lpt.
Also any one tryed changing the serial number and xbox id on a banned console then seeing if it will connect to live.
Post by: ToBbErT on August 25, 2009, 11:33:00 PM
Im glad im not gonna use lpt to read and flash. From what ive been reading its slow and unreliable.
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Aug 26 2009, 06:48 AM
Post by: Martinchris23 on August 26, 2009, 03:28:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 26 2009, 03:46 AM)
Any one tryed setting the dvdkey and model as blank and seeing if it works with any dvd drive.
Cant try intill I get something faster then flashing with lpt. Take a hour to write for me over lpt.
Also any one tryed changing the serial number and xbox id on a banned console then seeing if it will connect to live.
This has already been tried and different results occur when using invalid combinations (such as all 00000s) - none of them are good. Check the Xboxhacker BBS forums for more information.
Post by: DuggyUK on August 26, 2009, 03:41:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Aug 25 2009, 11:52 AM)
Should work fine aslong as the rrod isnt because of something power related and causing the power brick to go red.
Cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
QUOTE(Relapse75 @ Aug 25 2009, 08:29 PM)
Yes it will work, as I dont have heatsinks on once xbox and it just RROD, you will have to get it to boot at least once so you can get the CPU keys to decrypt the NAND if you want to fully test your NAND dump.
Aha.. thanks for pointing this out!
Post by: ToBbErT on August 26, 2009, 06:32:00 AM
Post by: xboxpirate11 on August 26, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
Post by: niai on August 26, 2009, 01:44:00 PM
just tried it with an other xbox and i got
QUOTE
error: 204 reading Block 2GB
i still did another dump and compared the 2 it says thy dont match and when i click next difference what it thinks is different is the same from what i can see
whats that error mien
Post by: Relapse75 on August 26, 2009, 02:37:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxpirate11 @ Aug 26 2009, 01:21 PM)
do you guys think CAT5 wires are too small? i want to rig something up using cat5, maybe a cat5 jack on the back of the xbox for future flashing.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=690718
There you can see what people are doing for the same thing that you said. Also I use ribbon cable, and I think cat5 wires will be just fine.
Post by: xboxpirate11 on August 26, 2009, 03:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Relapse75 @ Aug 26 2009, 09:37 PM)
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=690718
There you can see what people are doing for the same thing that you said. Also I use ribbon cable, and I think cat5 wires will be just fine.
thank you very much.. i guess great minds think alike. cat5 is cheap, one of those couplers are 99cents off ebay.. i have miles of cable too.. appreciate the link
Post by: Kieranl on August 27, 2009, 03:01:00 PM
ps all my soldering is clean
Post by: majinsoftware on August 27, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
Try use another computer to write to the nand.
Post by: DiaM0nd99 on August 28, 2009, 08:30:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Aug 25 2009, 09:27 PM)
Ive used your image and added a picture of the LPC2148. I hope you dont mind Mhawk134.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1839/lpc2148.jpg
Thanks for this info. My LPC2148 will be here tomorrow so I will be using this picture.
What kind of dump speeds do you get?
Post by: ToBbErT on August 28, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
Post by: cory1492 on August 28, 2009, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Aug 28 2009, 05:50 PM)
Wish me luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
DiaM0nd99: a 16M NAND should dump in around 2-3minutes with this LPC method (writing probably longer), apparently closer to 65min reading a 512M jasper NAND (seventhson mentioned this figure IIRC) - I'd hate to have to sit through a jasper 256 or 512 dump on those kind of LPT speeds, especially considering some of the quirkiness a few people have run across, that's for sure!
This post has been edited by cory1492: Aug 29 2009, 01:15 AM
Post by: shrekan on August 28, 2009, 07:53:00 PM
QUOTE(cory1492 @ Aug 29 2009, 01:10 AM)
DiaM0nd99: a 16M NAND should dump in around 2-3minutes with this LPC method (writing probably longer), apparently closer to 65min reading a 512M jasper NAND (seventhson mentioned this figure IIRC) - I'd hate to have to sit through a jasper 256 or 512 dump on those kind of LPT speeds, especially considering some of the quirkiness a few people have run across, that's for sure!
I f that is true, what time can we expect when reading a 512m jasper nand? 2 hours????
Post by: Relapse75 on August 28, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
QUOTE(cory1492 @ Aug 28 2009, 08:10 PM)
Good luck
DiaM0nd99: a 16M NAND should dump in around 2-3minutes with this LPC method (writing probably longer), apparently closer to 65min reading a 512M jasper NAND (seventhson mentioned this figure IIRC) - I'd hate to have to sit through a jasper 256 or 512 dump on those kind of LPT speeds, especially considering some of the quirkiness a few people have run across, that's for sure!
HAHA your funny it takes around 20 minutes to dump with LPT, and about 35-45 to flash.
Post by: Kieranl on August 28, 2009, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: majinsoftware on August 28, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: lenselijertje on August 29, 2009, 02:29:00 AM
Can someone tell me where the diagrams are to flash my jasper console.
I have 512mb nand so lpt is really no option
Post by: 4NZ33 on August 29, 2009, 02:30:00 AM
I do this with 4mb AMD TSOP chips and it reads in about 20 seconds this including a verify read to be sure it matches the firsrt read.
Post by: majinsoftware on August 29, 2009, 04:00:00 AM
Post by: RRODXbox on August 29, 2009, 06:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Aug 29 2009, 03:21 AM)
im unsure where to place the diode? do i put it on r2d8 or r2d7?
The diagram is a little misleading, it is just shown on the pic but goes between pin 11 on the LPT plug and pin 4 on the j1d2 header.
Post by: cory1492 on August 29, 2009, 08:39:00 AM
QUOTE(4NZ33 @ Aug 29 2009, 02:30 AM)
To speed up the reading process is it just possible to remove the nand and read it in an external reader?
I do this with 4mb AMD TSOP chips and it reads in about 20 seconds this including a verify read to be sure it matches the firsrt read.
Yep, entirely possible but you have to be able to lift and reattach tsop or wire directly to it while keeping nand vcc away from xbox rail, as well as have a capable programmer. I've use an old aluada based xd/sm card reader wired up to nand, with it dumping a 32M NAND takes about a minute and a half and erase+write takes around two and half minutes - not to shabby for a home adapted/made <$20 nand programmer and my own open source software. I've always had a theory that I could make a jig using needles to avoid soldering tsop nearly entirely... just haven't figured out how to apply pressure.
Post by: blackbelt/nl on August 29, 2009, 10:49:00 AM
so i tried this, but nandpro keeps giving the error :
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
I have added the diode, removed the 100ohm resistors, and dubbel checked my soldering + cables with a multimeter ..
When i turn the xbox on before scaning the lpt ports it does shut down the xbox, so shouldn't that mean the xbox has detected a connection ??
i checked the bios of the (old) pc i used for this, and all the lpt functions are active
i hope you guys know something i can try more.
thanks,
BlackBelt
Post by: sabbath_dude on August 29, 2009, 11:23:00 AM
QUOTE(blackbelt/nl @ Aug 29 2009, 05:49 PM)
Hello all,
so i tried this, but nandpro keeps giving the error :
Testing LPT device address:0378
Testing LPT device address:0278
Testing LPT device address:03BC
Could not detect a flash controller
Fatal Error
i hope you guys know something i can try more.
thanks,
BlackBelt
Post by: arielzadi on August 29, 2009, 11:38:00 AM
well i am planning to flash my falcon nand in the future(yes i know tiros hasent published anything about falcon boards Yet) and i want to do it using a usb interface -i am planning to use one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-Full-Speed-LPC...id=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB2-0-LPC2148-Module-...p3286.m20.l1116
1)now i was wondering-will it work?with both of them?i preffer the cheaper one.
2)and if it does work how do i flash the hex file to it?what program to use?
3)i know the soldering points on the mobo but i need to know the points on lpc2148-this specific one i mean cause i saw the pinout for the omilex one ?and more important will it work with all mobos?xenon'zypher'falcon'jasper?
4)can i use this Buffered LPT schematic for the NAND? http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?topic=12257.0
so i will have the mobo wired to this thing and this thing wierd to the lpc2148?
5)and one last q-what are the general applications for these type of boards?i mean what else can i do with it if i buy it cause its kind of expensive and ebay is the only place that i found someone selling it using paypal
i know i ask alot but thanks
by the way my soldering skills are excellent so no problems there
to bad my english is kind of bad
This post has been edited by arielzadi: Aug 29 2009, 06:41 PM
Post by: ToBbErT on August 29, 2009, 11:43:00 AM
I was able to dump the nand in exactly 2min without using any resistors and diode.
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Aug 29 2009, 06:49 PM
Post by: ToBbErT on August 29, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
Post by: arielzadi on August 29, 2009, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Aug 29 2009, 08:43 PM)
Only the LPC-H2148 is supported at the moment. Maybe more types get compatible if someone is kind enough to write software for it.
I was able to dump the nand in exactly 2min without using any resistors and diode.
so where ca i buy it from?and will it support other boards then xenon?
and one last question-if i buy it-how do i flash the hex file to it?
Post by: cory1492 on August 29, 2009, 12:31:00 PM
If you are in europe, you can get the olimex boards right from olimex for 35-50euro, probably plus shipping. If not, look on electronic component distributor sites for lpc2148 dev boards, mouser, digikey etc. or if you know what you are doing you can get the mcu from such part suppliers on it's own and build your own breakout board that has just the things you need. Or even wait a week or two, I'm sure some chinese fellow is slavering over selling knockoff boards on fleabay now that the simpler ones have a common use.
As to what you can do with dev boards like these... what can you imagine and what do you have the patience to code? I know after all the reading on them I did to help some other self proclaimed noob figure out their purchase I'd love to have one myself. Also, I'd be willing to bet LPT and LPC2148 are not going to be the last methods to do the same thing, just the first made with common and/or on hand hardware by those who made them - there are many many devices that can use the SPI protocols that they use to access NAND from the southbridge.
Last but not least, stop being impatient and do some actual research yourself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
This post has been edited by cory1492: Aug 29 2009, 07:35 PM
Post by: blackbelt/nl on August 29, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
QUOTE(sabbath_dude @ Aug 29 2009, 07:23 PM)
I had the same problem at first too. I tried everything, double checked soldering, added a diode etc etc. Turned out the cable I was using was too long. Make sure the cable running from your PC to Xbox is no longer than 2ft. The shorter the cable the better. Mine is now down to about 1ft and works perfectly. I can now dump and flash without a problem.
well i cut the cable down to 1ft like you sayed,.. but still no luck i realy have no idea what i can try more.
anyone have the same problem as me ?
Post by: arielzadi on August 29, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
would it take a month?
a week?
2 months?
i just need to know
thanks to everyone developing this hack
i love you guys
Post by: beremoka on August 29, 2009, 03:37:00 PM
Post by: ToBbErT on August 29, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
ive added the RS232 Shifter SMD. http://img188.images...2shiftersmd.jpg
I also made a little guide for flashing the device. Im a big noob so it might contain errors. Im just passing the info, use at your own risk.
Credits go to all the people who helped me specially cory1492!
Getting the device in ISP mode
In order to program the LPC-H2148 you need to put it in ISP mode.
You can do this by bridging the two points shown on the picture. Then hold the little reset button BEFORE you plug the usb in your pc and then release it. It should now be in ISP mode (red light only).
Flashing the device
I installed the LibUsb driver from the Nandpro20 directory before i soldered. I dont know if that's the correct order but it worked for me.
Download flash magic and Nandpro20a
Step 1 Install flash magic, unpack nandpro20a, start up flash magic and select your device from the list. Then fill in the value of the oscillator (mhz) 16.000. Now try reading the device signature found in the ISP tab. Start with COM port 1 and if it doesnt read anything try COM port 2 ect. Once you read the signature proceed.
Step 2 Check the box "Erase all Flash+Code Rd Prot".
Step 3 Browse for the xspiflash.hex located in the nandpro20a directory.
Step 4 Check the box "Verify after programming".
Step 5 Now press start to erase/flash.
I forgot to thank Tiron,Tmbinc ect ect ect for making it all happen!
Post by: ToBbErT on August 29, 2009, 04:01:00 PM
Post by: arielzadi on August 29, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
or do i need to wait for the official hack to come out?
Post by: ToBbErT on August 29, 2009, 06:18:00 PM
Post by: The Dude Z on August 29, 2009, 09:15:00 PM
I'm real lost here Ive tried them all on numerous boxes and always get an E79
CB1903 CD1888 should those pre made for xenon files work with that combo or do I need to wait for a 1888 or 1903 release?
I think anoter was CB1902 CD1888 ?
When I am flashing I use the command nandpro lpt: -w16 NewXell.bin and am flashing them directly to the dash that is on it.
Is there something ZI am doing wrong here ?
Please any help or ideas etc are greatly appreciated.
Post by: ToBbErT on August 30, 2009, 02:08:00 AM
Post by: lenselijertje on August 30, 2009, 07:48:00 AM
Is there anyone who figured out where alternative points are located?
Post by: MasterGouken on August 30, 2009, 08:33:00 AM
http://www.skpang.co...products_id=258
Just ordered mine, 37 GBP.
Post by: ExtendedCYGNUS on August 30, 2009, 10:08:00 AM
Boot up fine, got CPU key. Decrypet DVD key, got key with unknown type. I read, older board doesn't have drive type.
Than flash back to original dump, no error given. Desolder everything, connect as original.
Bootup, **BOOM**, on start loading dashboard E71.
Any clue?
Post by: ToBbErT on August 30, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: ExtendedCYGNUS on August 30, 2009, 11:19:00 AM
Xell was bootup and I got CPU key. Than run with 360 flash tools to extract DVD key from NAND.
Than I flash back to dumped NAND.bin to bootup with MS dashboard.
Do I need to leave 330 ohms resistor to run MS original NAND?
Post by: Kieranl on August 30, 2009, 11:40:00 AM
Post by: ToBbErT on August 30, 2009, 11:48:00 AM
QUOTE(ExtendedCYGNUS @ Aug 30 2009, 07:19 PM)
NewXell.bin was working fine. I was testing I can get the DVD key from NAND.
Xell was bootup and I got CPU key. Than run with 360 flash tools to extract DVD key from NAND.
Than I flash back to dumped NAND.bin to bootup with MS dashboard.
Do I need to leave 330 ohms resistor to run MS original NAND?
Nah i think they are not needed but im just guessing. If everything was working untill you removed all the wires and resistors and diode then i think you should first recconect the diode again and see what happens. I believe the resistors are only for protecting the components. Ive havent got any expierence with getting the dvd key couse my xenon died when i booted xell the first time but i do know its only possible to retrieve the dvd key from a xenon atm. So based on that info i think the dvd key is stored somewhere else, not the on nand.
Post by: ExtendedCYGNUS on August 30, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
Diode and resistor are dump NAND with LPT. Some PC did not require diode.
Following was from Wikipedia by user Bmgjet ---
"Return To Stock
If you want to be able to play games again you will need to return to stock. Xell is only good for home-brew and linux at the moment as there are no public replacement dashes.
To return back to stock you need to write your nand.bin back to your xbox 360. To do this is the same as you did with xell in the first instructions. Here is a reminder.
nandpro lpt -w16 nand.bin
Make sure you have -w as if you use -r it will read it and over write your nand.bin file with xell and you need your original nand.bin to return to stock. Best thing to do is write this file to a cd so you cant over write it. It will take 35mins to write back and onces it done unplug parallel port again and remove power computer xbox then insert power. It should now be back in stock and able to play games."
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This post has been edited by ExtendedCYGNUS: Aug 30 2009, 07:01 PM
Post by: dj_liss on August 31, 2009, 04:03:00 AM
Post by: RRODXbox on August 31, 2009, 07:38:00 AM
QUOTE(dj_liss @ Aug 31 2009, 11:03 AM)
could we use the d2prog, the programer for the d2pro chip for the wii, this is a usb to jtag programmer i belive, if someone with some more technical knowlege could confirm this. i belive drivers are avalable for it we only need nand pro to support it, just an idea.
No, because you dont flash over JTAG.
Post by: RRODXbox on August 31, 2009, 08:01:00 AM
QUOTE(ExtendedCYGNUS @ Aug 30 2009, 06:19 PM)
NewXell.bin was working fine. I was testing I can get the DVD key from NAND.
Xell was bootup and I got CPU key. Than run with 360 flash tools to extract DVD key from NAND.
Than I flash back to dumped NAND.bin to bootup with MS dashboard.
Do I need to leave 330 ohms resistor to run MS original NAND?
You don't need to remove anything, just leave everything as it is and tuck the LPT plug away in the xbox and it will be as normal when flashing your original dasgboard back
Post by: Hellzone on August 31, 2009, 02:03:00 PM
The old one never worked
Post by: thor99 on August 31, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
QUOTE(RRODXbox @ Aug 29 2009, 01:51 PM)
The diagram is a little misleading, it is just shown on the pic but goes between pin 11 on the LPT plug and pin 4 on the j1d2 header.
Ive edited the image to help make it a little easier to understand, I hope this is ok, and It helps others out..
thanx for the hard work on this hack..
Post by: Relapse75 on August 31, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Aug 30 2009, 01:40 PM)
Has anyone tried flashingthe new 1921 Xell? its a lot smaller, do you have to flash teh full 16mb old xell and then patch it with this new one? or just simply flash the 1921 xell and be done with it?
You flash the new 1921 xell over the original NAND. What you do is flash the original NAND back, even if your console doesn't power on for whatever reason, once that is complete flash the 1921 xell, it's only 50 blocks, doesn't take long at all and your updated.
You Tube video of new xell.
And about the diagrams it is beyond surprising to me that people can't match color for color. Resistors are NOT needed, and most of the time they are the reason for getting crappy results.
Post by: Hellzone on September 01, 2009, 04:12:00 AM
Btw im using the new XELL and i can confirm working and not much is changed... as i can see
Post by: Kieranl on September 01, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Post by: danked on September 01, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
Post by: Takashi on September 01, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Sep 1 2009, 06:46 PM)
I am looking to make a custom LPT cable, i was wondering if anyone has a colour diagram which shows what colour wire goes to which pin on the lpt pinout? thanks!
Try a Multimeter.
Post by: majinsoftware on September 01, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
Also iv got 2 parallel port cables from printers both have different colour wires so a colour chart wont help anyone.
Post by: Hellzone on September 01, 2009, 10:59:00 PM
QUOTE(danked @ Sep 2 2009, 02:24 AM)
My xbox won't power on, when the LPT is connected to a PC, is this a problem?
.. its normal, all you need to do now is just get NANDPro to detect the NAND.
Try using a non x64 OS and try using Windows XP
Also try adding or removing the diode on #11
If you want a pure linux system then all you really need to do is flash the NAND.
This post has been edited by Hellzone: Sep 2 2009, 06:04 AM
Post by: sjbwiii on September 02, 2009, 02:13:00 AM
Got my nand flashed.
Is there a Debian usb or tftp how to? - as i don't have a dvd on the box i'm testing with.
had a go with an ide dvd with sata to ide converter - surprisingly it works, well boots - but gets stuck
Post by: danked on September 02, 2009, 09:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Hellzone @ Sep 1 2009, 08:59 PM)
.. its normal, all you need to do now is just get NANDPro to detect the NAND.
Try using a non x64 OS and try using Windows XP
Also try adding or removing the diode on #11
If you want a pure linux system then all you really need to do is flash the NAND.
I got it working fine now, it powered on the first time it was reading the nand. And I did try the 64bit driver but it didn't work.
This post has been edited by danked: Sep 2 2009, 04:33 PM
Post by: DiaM0nd99 on September 02, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Aug 29 2009, 10:38 PM)
Here's a updated picture for anyone that needs some help connecting the LPC-H2148,
ive added the RS232 Shifter SMD. http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2601/lc...2shiftersmd.jpg
I also made a little guide for flashing the device. Im a big noob so it might contain errors. Im just passing the info, use at your own risk.
Credits go to all the people who helped me specially cory1492!
Getting the device in ISP mode
In order to program the LPC-H2148 you need to put it in ISP mode.
You can do this by bridging the two points shown on the picture. Then hold the little reset button BEFORE you plug the usb in your pc and then release it. It should now be in ISP mode (red light only).
Flashing the device
I installed the LibUsb driver from the Nandpro20 directory before i soldered. I dont know if that's the correct order but it worked for me.
Download flash magic and Nandpro20a
Step 1 Install flash magic, unpack nandpro20a, start up flash magic and select your device from the list. Then fill in the value of the oscillator (mhz) 16.000. Now try reading the device signature found in the ISP tab. Start with COM port 1 and if it doesnt read anything try COM port 2 ect. Once you read the signature proceed.
Step 2 Check the box "Erase all Flash+Code Rd Prot".
Step 3 Browse for the xspiflash.hex located in the nandpro20a directory.
Step 4 Check the box "Verify after programming".
Step 5 Now press start to erase/flash.
I forgot to thank Tiron,Tmbinc ect ect ect for making it all happen!
Hi,
Thanks for the tips for writing to the nand. Do you know what the commands are to dump the nand using the LPC-h2148, Also does it need to be in ISP mode for dumping?
Post by: Martinchris23 on September 03, 2009, 01:35:00 AM
QUOTE(DiaM0nd99 @ Sep 3 2009, 12:26 AM)
Hi,
Thanks for the tips for writing to the nand. Do you know what the commands are to dump the nand using the LPC-h2148, Also does it need to be in ISP mode for dumping?
ISP mode is only needed to reprogram the LPC-H2148 (which I can confirm will program fine with a Max232 serial interface too).
The commands will be the same as before, just substitute lpt: for usb:
Post by: Kieranl on September 03, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
Post by: DiaM0nd99 on September 03, 2009, 08:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Sep 3 2009, 08:35 AM)
ISP mode is only needed to reprogram the LPC-H2148 (which I can confirm will program fine with a Max232 serial interface too).
The commands will be the same as before, just substitute lpt: for usb:
Ah I got it now, Thanks for the info.
Post by: nagamin on September 03, 2009, 09:41:00 AM
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Sep 3 2009, 10:27 AM)
how do you enable/disable LPT polling? is it in bios settings or what? also i dont have the option for normal lpt all i have is bidirectional/ECP/EPP which should i use?
Yes, you must configure in Bios setup. My PC was work either EPP or ECP. It is old dell PIII.
Post by: majinsoftware on September 03, 2009, 07:07:00 PM
Post by: Hellzone on September 04, 2009, 01:06:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Sep 4 2009, 03:07 AM)
I had to use SPP and disable plug and plug in device manager.
Plug and plug ? LOL !!!
You mean "Plug and Play" ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)
This post has been edited by Hellzone: Sep 4 2009, 08:07 AM
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 04, 2009, 03:02:00 AM
QUOTE(ExtendedCYGNUS @ Aug 30 2009, 07:19 PM)
NewXell.bin was working fine. I was testing I can get the DVD key from NAND.
Xell was bootup and I got CPU key. Than run with 360 flash tools to extract DVD key from NAND.
Than I flash back to dumped NAND.bin to bootup with MS dashboard.
Do I need to leave 330 ohms resistor to run MS original NAND?
E71 is probably a bad Dashboard file, so something went wrong with dumping/flashing the NAND, maby you could try your other dump?, did you compare them?
If you remove the 3 resistors you will be going back top stock and the original NAND dump should work if its ok.
The only reason for removing the 3 resistors would be so that MS cant check if you modded your xbox.
If the above fails you could do the following:
As you are able to get your keyvault data out of the NAND dump maby a rebuild of the NAND would be a good option, examples are easy to find here on XB-Scene/XBHacker.
QUOTE(Kieranl @ Sep 3 2009, 04:27 PM)
how do you enable/disable LPT polling? is it in bios settings or what? also i dont have the option for normal lpt all i have is bidirectional/ECP/EPP which should i use?
Just search for DisableWarmPoll in Google.
At least 2 persons said that Bidirectional doesnt work for them, so i would try two dumps with ECP and two with EPP , if the all match up you have a winner(ofcourse try Degraded 1.1b etc.)
Post by: danked on September 04, 2009, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: The Dude Z on September 05, 2009, 04:06:00 AM
QUOTE(DiaM0nd99 @ Sep 2 2009, 07:26 PM)
Hi,
Thanks for the tips for writing to the nand. Do you know what the commands are to dump the nand using the LPC-h2148, Also does it need to be in ISP mode for dumping?
Be warned his diagram picture is wrong when it comes to the TX/RX points for flashing the Olimex LPC-H2148He has TX where RX should be and RX where TX should be on the board.
A quick look at the Schematics can show us that
http://www.olimex.co...c-h2148-sch.gif
Notice EXT1-26 in upper right of the schematics.
P0.0 - TX
P0.1 - RX
You can clearly see that he has TX going to P0.1 and RX going to P0.0 REVERSED!!!
I spent a good few hours getting couldn't Autobaud among other errors before looking at the schematics for the board and noticing the error and as soon as I corrected it BOOM it was detected and ready to flash.
Post by: The Dude Z on September 05, 2009, 04:29:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Aug 29 2009, 05:38 PM)
Here's a updated picture for anyone that needs some help connecting the LPC-H2148,
ive added the RS232 Shifter SMD. http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2601/lc...2shiftersmd.jpg
I also made a little guide for flashing the device. Im a big noob so it might contain errors. Im just passing the info, use at your own risk.
Credits go to all the people who helped me specially cory1492!
Getting the device in ISP mode
In order to program the LPC-H2148 you need to put it in ISP mode.
You can do this by bridging the two points shown on the picture. Then hold the little reset button BEFORE you plug the usb in your pc and then release it. It should now be in ISP mode (red light only).
Flashing the device
I installed the LibUsb driver from the Nandpro20 directory before i soldered. I dont know if that's the correct order but it worked for me.
Download flash magic and Nandpro20a
Step 1 Install flash magic, unpack nandpro20a, start up flash magic and select your device from the list. Then fill in the value of the oscillator (mhz) 16.000. Now try reading the device signature found in the ISP tab. Start with COM port 1 and if it doesnt read anything try COM port 2 ect. Once you read the signature proceed.
Step 2 Check the box "Erase all Flash+Code Rd Prot".
Step 3 Browse for the xspiflash.hex located in the nandpro20a directory.
Step 4 Check the box "Verify after programming".
Step 5 Now press start to erase/flash.
I forgot to thank Tiron,Tmbinc ect ect ect for making it all happen!
You have TX and RX Reversed see my post above !
Here is a proper diagram for the Max232 Shifter wiring for the Olimex LPC-H2148 for flashing the hex file from the Nandpro20A folder to make it ready for flashing.
I havn't had time yet to test any of the wires but the 4 for flashing the device via Serial signal shifter for flashing hex and that works flawless now with these connections.
(IMG:http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2601/lcph2148rs232shiftersmd.th.jpg)
This post has been edited by The Dude Z: Sep 5 2009, 11:30 AM
Post by: 4NZ33 on September 05, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
Flashed NewXell.bin and retrieved CPUKEY.
Used 360_Flash_Tool Retail v0.88 Retail to read the Key Vault:
Type , Serial, Region , DVD Key all show up correctly but the OSIG says unknown!
Does this matter and will this cause any issues?
It should say Samsung ms25!
Post by: nagamin on September 05, 2009, 12:03:00 PM
But it's wroking fine. But not sure for Xobox live with unknown OSIG.
Post by: lilhaywood on September 05, 2009, 12:34:00 PM
Anyway, I understand all the soldering stuff as to the motherboard to the 25pin din. Im confused with the Reading/writing of the nand. Do i just plug the din into the back of my computer and run nandpro or what? I read the tut many times but for some reason im just not getting it. . Thanks guys~
Post by: cory1492 on September 05, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
QUOTE(The Dude Z @ Sep 5 2009, 04:29 AM)
You have TX and RX Reversed see my post above !
Here is a proper diagram for the Max232 Shifter wiring for the Olimex LPC-H2148 for flashing the hex file from the Nandpro20A folder to make it ready for flashing.
I havn't had time yet to test any of the wires but the 4 for flashing the device via Serial signal shifter for flashing hex and that works flawless now with these connections.
It depends on your documentation, sometimes they change TX/RX - there is a reason the shifter he has pictured has TX-O (output) and RX-I (input) instead of just TX/RX. Normally it's not "connect the dots" tx to tx and rx to rx, it's connect the transmit of one device to the receive of the other and vice-versa... but again, it depends on your documentation - with the hardware depicted it is 100% accurate.
This post has been edited by cory1492: Sep 5 2009, 07:52 PM
Post by: nagamin on September 05, 2009, 01:39:00 PM
QUOTE(lilhaywood @ Sep 5 2009, 02:34 PM)
Great stuff guys. I have read through the 14 pages before asking my question, so please dont be mad at me
Anyway, I understand all the soldering stuff as to the motherboard to the 25pin din. Im confused with the Reading/writing of the nand. Do i just plug the din into the back of my computer and run nandpro or what? I read the tut many times but for some reason im just not getting it. . Thanks guys~
Yes, After you build 25 pin printer socket and JTAG connection on MOB, you can strat using NANDpro.
Make sure your LPT port was enable in PC's Bios setting SPP, EPP or ECP mode will be fine.
NANDPro must be run in DOS prompt. This is not win32 program. Each time you dump re name nand.bin. Otherwise it will over writen.
When you try to write Xell.bin or NAND.bin, that file must be present in the folder , which nandpro.exe running.
Good luck.
Post by: lilhaywood on September 05, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 5 2009, 03:39 PM)
Yes, After you build 25 pin printer socket and JTAG connection on MOB, you can strat using NANDpro.
Make sure your LPT port was enable in PC's Bios setting SPP, EPP or ECP mode will be fine.
NANDPro must be run in DOS prompt. This is not win32 program. Each time you dump re name nand.bin. Otherwise it will over writen.
When you try to write Xell.bin or NAND.bin, that file must be present in the folder , which nandpro.exe running.
Good luck.
So run through dos similarly to how modding 360's dvd drives used to be? like through a flash drive would work? Thanks lots. i will prob have more questions, but first i have to build this stuff.
Post by: shepcms on September 05, 2009, 08:06:00 PM
(IMG:http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8088/dsc01697tu.jpg)
(IMG:http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2492/dsc01698el.jpg)
This post has been edited by shepcms: Sep 6 2009, 03:08 AM
Post by: Takashi on September 05, 2009, 08:22:00 PM
Post by: The Dude Z on September 07, 2009, 12:33:00 AM
they usually give you a link that makes a real small picture show up and is the link to the picture in full size.
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This post has been edited by The Dude Z: Sep 7 2009, 07:49 AM
Post by: Ski-lleR on September 07, 2009, 05:24:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Aug 29 2009, 10:38 PM)
Here's a updated picture for anyone that needs some help connecting the LPC-H2148,
ive added the RS232 Shifter SMD. http://img188.images...2shiftersmd.jpg
I also made a little guide for flashing the device. Im a big noob so it might contain errors. Im just passing the info, use at your own risk.
Credits go to all the people who helped me specially cory1492!
Getting the device in ISP mode
In order to program the LPC-H2148 you need to put it in ISP mode.
You can do this by bridging the two points shown on the picture. Then hold the little reset button BEFORE you plug the usb in your pc and then release it. It should now be in ISP mode (red light only).
Flashing the device
I installed the LibUsb driver from the Nandpro20 directory before i soldered. I dont know if that's the correct order but it worked for me.
Download flash magic and Nandpro20a
Step 1 Install flash magic, unpack nandpro20a, start up flash magic and select your device from the list. Then fill in the value of the oscillator (mhz) 16.000. Now try reading the device signature found in the ISP tab. Start with COM port 1 and if it doesnt read anything try COM port 2 ect. Once you read the signature proceed.
Step 2 Check the box "Erase all Flash+Code Rd Prot".
Step 3 Browse for the xspiflash.hex located in the nandpro20a directory.
Step 4 Check the box "Verify after programming".
Step 5 Now press start to erase/flash.
I forgot to thank Tiron,Tmbinc ect ect ect for making it all happen!
Can you say when you plug the rs232 cable between lpc and the PC ?
Post by: ToBbErT on September 07, 2009, 05:17:00 PM
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Sep 8 2009, 12:18 AM
Post by: Kieranl on September 07, 2009, 06:47:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 8 2009, 12:17 AM)
Just make the bridge (for isp mode) then hook everyhing up and use the guide to flash. You need to switch TX with RX if your unable to read the device signature. I havent used a rs232 cable to flash the device but i used this adapter http://www.parallax.com/Store/Accessories/...ame,ProductName
hey just wondering if i understood you correctly... you used this device to read/write to xbox 360 nand? if so how?
Post by: Ski-lleR on September 08, 2009, 01:14:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 8 2009, 12:17 AM)
Just make the bridge (for isp mode) then hook everyhing up and use the guide to flash. You need to switch TX with RX if your unable to read the device signature. I havent used a rs232 cable to flash the device but i used this adapter http://www.parallax....ame,ProductName
Ok so you:
- add the rs232 shifter smd on LPC-H2148
- Add the Parallax USB to Serial (RS-232) Adapter to rs232 shifter smd
- Flash the hex in LPC-H2148 trough usb
But 14$ the Parallax, i think buy directly a rs232 cable ^^
Post by: tonny_online on September 08, 2009, 07:28:00 AM
I've done this whole process of extraction of the NAND and I have also noted the DVDKEY.
I wonder what the next step so I can get the DVDKEY to write to the Driver.
Thank you.
Post by: beremoka on September 08, 2009, 12:58:00 PM
QUOTE(tonny_online @ Sep 8 2009, 04:28 PM) 
Hi, I would like a help and I know that I helped ... Please!
I've done this whole process of extraction of the NAND and I have also noted the DVDKEY.
I wonder what the next step so I can get the DVDKEY to write to the Driver.
Thank you.
You mean you got the CPU key...well then you have to load your dump (Beavis & Butthead moment...sorry, couldn't help myself) into Degraded first (to check it for bad/empty pages) an d after that, start 360Flash tool, go to keys, enter your CPU key , exit and then load again and open dump.bin.....you should see your DVD key now and also DVD type, etc
Post by: ToBbErT on September 08, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
Doesnt look great but it works.
http://img6.imagesha...71/s5030337.jpg
http://img6.imagesha...04/s5030330.jpg
http://img248.images...22/s5030339.jpg
http://img201.images...50/s5030342.jpg
http://img201.images...96/s5030344.jpg
Now im gonna make a long dvd power cable couse it looks like shit as you can see in the picture. I used every cable i could at that moment, now i bought some (all black)
Post by: lilhaywood on September 08, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 8 2009, 03:23 PM)
I was bored today and i made this little box for the lpc2148 and smd shifter. I only had a hand saw and found some wood in the garage.
Doesnt look great but it works.
http://img6.imagesha...71/s5030337.jpg
http://img6.imagesha...04/s5030330.jpg
http://img248.images...22/s5030339.jpg
http://img201.images...50/s5030342.jpg
http://img201.images...96/s5030344.jpg
Now im gonna make a long dvd power cable couse it looks like shit as you can see in the picture. I used every cable i could at that moment, now i bought some (all black)
I like your getto riged fans.
Post by: OliSykesIsPro on September 08, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
QUOTE(lilhaywood @ Sep 8 2009, 04:25 PM)
I like your getto riged fans.
I second this motion.
Post by: modslave on September 08, 2009, 04:07:00 PM
Lovin it!
Post by: niai on September 08, 2009, 06:19:00 PM
i want to know if there's any other usb based boards i can use for this (will any jtag programer work)
i have also herd bout the new infectus homebrew with jtag programmer whats this all bout
thy also have a product called injectus could i use this as i have it all redy
i have also considers getting a parallel epresscard for my laptop but if i am to buy some thing that will cost this much i am better off going usb to speed things up
but the cheapest option that i dont thing will work to well is to use some thing like this but i realy dont thing this is going to work to well
whats the best option to go for thanks to any help
Post by: ToBbErT on September 09, 2009, 03:00:00 AM
And jtag has nothing to do with reading/writing the nand. Jtag is being used for the exploit.
Here's some more info about a other usb solution http://www.xboxhacke...p?topic=12306.0
Post by: niai on September 09, 2009, 04:51:00 AM
i have no case for it and the hdd doesn't all ways boot
and i dont always get a signal to the tv it take a few hours just to get the thing to work some times
and i didnt say i have an infectus i said injectus
the lpt is the parallel port to my knowledge and its slower then to use a lpc2148 the lpt takes bout 30 mins and the lpc2148 to my knowledge takes bout 2 mins
i didnt under stand what you say cos its slower i shouldnt switch to usb
i dont understand full whats going on with this hack thats why i am seeking help i have been trying my best to figure this out on my own and i am trying to lern more every day
Post by: ToBbErT on September 09, 2009, 05:16:00 AM
Reading a xenon's nand with LPT will take long but reading newer 360 models will take even longer. So switching to usb wouldnt be a bad idea, its faster and more secure.
I guess its your crappy english that doesnt let you understand it. No offence
Here's some nice info http://free60.cvs.so...amp;view=markup
I forgot to mention that the injectus wont work but i guess you allready figured that one out.
Post by: tonny_online on September 09, 2009, 07:45:00 AM
QUOTE(beremoka @ Sep 8 2009, 03:58 PM)
You mean you got the CPU key...well then you have to load your dump (Beavis & Butthead moment...sorry, couldn't help myself) into Degraded first (to check it for bad/empty pages) an d after that, start 360Flash tool, go to keys, enter your CPU key , exit and then load again and open dump.bin.....you should see your DVD key now and also DVD type, etc
Yes, I can do all this because I see the key of the DVD. My doubt is which program should I use to write the key on the DVD.
Which file should I save it, the file that I have is that the NAND so has 16KB.
The jungleflash request a file of 256kb.
Thanks
Post by: nagamin on September 09, 2009, 07:59:00 AM
Are you plan to change DVD key in NAND or spoof your MOB DVD key to DVD drive?
Looks like you mix up in NAND and DVD FW.
Post by: tonny_online on September 09, 2009, 08:36:00 AM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 9 2009, 10:59 AM)
NAND can't be work with JF. NAND must work with 360 Firmware Tool.
Are you plan to change DVD key in NAND or spoof your MOB DVD key to DVD drive?
Looks like you mix up in NAND and DVD FW.
Sorry...
I just want my xbox 360 plate Xenon working again.
For the beginning I tried to unlock then lost the key driver.
What do you suggest me?
Post by: nagamin on September 09, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
So you can retrive your DVD key.
Ues JF to flash with retived DVD key to your DVD drive. You must manualy spoof your DVD key.
If you need more for flashing, read JF manual from JF web site. You can download PDF manual from JF site.
Good Luck.
Post by: niai on September 09, 2009, 04:59:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 9 2009, 10:00 AM)
Just use the infectus and your laptop. I dont understand why your considering all the other options when you allready got all the equipment. Reading a xenon's nand with LPT will take long but reading newer 360 models will take even longer. So switching to usb wouldnt be a bad idea, its faster and more secure. And you will be able to read/write the nand with your laptop.
And jtag has nothing to do with reading/writing the nand. Jtag is being used for the exploit.
Here's some more info about a other usb solution http://www.xboxhacke...p?topic=12306.0
sorry i had just got up from a bad nights sleep i live in ireland and i am English so there nothing crappy bout my english but i am dyslexic so that with my tiredness meant i read it as would be a bad idea
i take it there no other prototype boards out there to do this then i am only just getting in to electronics and i am starting my 1st year at college next week to study it so most of this is foreign to me
its looking as if a parallel expresscard is the best thing to go for then still would like to go usb more
and btw the crappy english remark is a bit offensive i didnt take any from it but i think the majority of people would
Post by: InsaneNutter on September 09, 2009, 05:00:00 PM
Also where might I buy one in the UK?
Thanks a lot
Post by: nagamin on September 09, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
If you cant find that, buy parallel printer cable and cut it out.
Post by: niai on September 09, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
Post by: InsaneNutter on September 10, 2009, 02:34:00 AM
Post by: DuggyUK on September 10, 2009, 03:50:00 AM
QUOTE(InsaneNutter @ Sep 10 2009, 12:00 AM)
WhatÂ’s the correct name for this:
Also where might I buy one in the UK?
Thanks a lot
you can buy that from ebay/maplins/farnell and most electronic shops in the UK
Post by: ANGRY OZY on September 10, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SERIAL-RS232-DB25-25-PIN-MALE-TO-RJ45-FEMALE-ADAPTOR_W0QQitemZ400053762945QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Networking_SM?hash=item5d250ffb81&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
thanks !
Post by: nagamin on September 10, 2009, 11:35:00 AM
QUOTE(ANGRY OZY @ Sep 10 2009, 01:21 PM)
try this one, im going to buy one of these,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SERIAL-RS232-DB25-25-PIN-MALE-TO-RJ45-FEMALE-ADAPTOR_W0QQitemZ400053762945QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Networking_SM?hash=item5d250ffb81&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
thanks !
I'm sorry. You should by another type. Female DB 25.
Same connector as Printer Cable.
Post by: Martinchris23 on September 11, 2009, 03:17:00 AM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 10 2009, 06:35 PM)
I'm sorry. You should by another type. Female DB 25.
Same connector as Printer Cable.
The description says male, but it's in fact a female DB25 in the picture.
You want a male DB25 (as the port on your PC is a female DB25) and a length of cable long enough to get from the 360 to your PC. Unless you're making it a permanent feature, there's no point in adding extra components/lengths of cable to the equation.
Post by: tonny_online on September 11, 2009, 09:22:00 AM
someone has the link to download the file 1888FS.rar?
Post by: nagamin on September 11, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: tonny_online on September 11, 2009, 09:55:00 AM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 11 2009, 12:28 PM)
It is on usal place. xbin.org.
I have looked at xbins.org but did not.
Can you help me?
Post by: nagamin on September 11, 2009, 10:08:00 AM
QUOTE(tonny_online @ Sep 11 2009, 11:55 AM)
I have looked at xbins.org but did not.
Can you help me?
Post by: tonny_online on September 11, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 11 2009, 01:08 PM)
Sorry, I'm beginner.
Post by: tonny_online on September 11, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
QUOTE(tonny_online @ Sep 11 2009, 01:19 PM)
Sorry, I'm beginner.
someone has the link to download the file 1888FS.rar?
I have looked at xbins.org but did not.
I'm desperate for file 1888FS.RAR already tried in Xbins but I can not download.
Post by: nagamin on September 11, 2009, 11:51:00 AM
Post by: InsaneNutter on September 12, 2009, 03:51:00 AM
However the diagram posted a few pages back has the pins numbered in reverse as seen in the image below.
Should I wire mine up according to the numbers on my db25 connector or the diagram posted on here?
Edit – its also labelled mini gender changer, I presume both sides of the adapter should be male, guess I should have asked that before
Thanks for any advice.
Post by: nagamin on September 12, 2009, 05:37:00 AM
Yes, you must wire up according to this image. Forget about mini gender changer. That is not for DB25 setup. Do not forget to use 100 ohms resistor.
Good Luck.
Post by: InsaneNutter on September 12, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
(IMG:http://upload.digiex.net/files/00l2vz26hea8r6tj99r7.jpg)
So thats ok to use? Ignore the numbers and stick to the ones in the diagram. I will be soldering the wires on to the top side of the adaptor, the bottom side will connect to my pc.
Just want to be 100% before going ahead.
Sorry to be a pain, not done anything like this for many years now (although that probably shows) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
This post has been edited by InsaneNutter: Sep 12 2009, 02:09 PM
Post by: nagamin on September 12, 2009, 07:28:00 AM
That was gender changer. One side like that and other side must be solderable pin.
Tell the store man you want DB25 Male connector.
Ohh.. you from UK.
I don't know about UK. If you want to use with that pice you must follow the number.
That piece has PCB board in side, which is change connection of pin. Batter do not use it. Not good to solder on it.
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This post has been edited by nagamin: Sep 12 2009, 02:34 PM
Post by: Relapse75 on September 12, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
Post by: nagamin on September 12, 2009, 08:43:00 AM
I was using 47 ohms, but it is all yours. No special recommandation.
Happy modding.
Post by: Relapse75 on September 12, 2009, 09:19:00 AM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 12 2009, 10:43 AM)
If your PC LPT is using 3.3 V, no resistor needed. If you are not sure what voltage you are using, use the resistor. You can use lower value, like 68ohms or 47 ohms for batter result and protection.
I was using 47 ohms, but it is all yours. No special recommandation.
Happy modding. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Even if it's 5v i dont use the resistors, there still for the most part not needed. And only rarely actually help.
Post by: tonny_online on September 12, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Relapse75 @ Sep 12 2009, 12:19 PM)
Even if it's 5v i dont use the resistors, there still for the most part not needed. And only rarely actually help.
Hello, I managed to extract the Nand and also got the downgrade to 1888.
By placing a game Original (Black Site Area 51) he asked to update, I accepted the update and then to follow the Xbox 360 was no video.
Now when I turn on my Xbox 360 and the 3 red lights.
Could anyone help me?
Post by: InsaneNutter on September 12, 2009, 09:52:00 AM
So on this website http://www.bitsbox.co.uk/connects.html#dcon I want the 25-Way D-connector “plug” which has solder bucket connections?
(IMG:http://upload.digiex.net/files/rnmqoik2kdt761su6dk0.jpg)
Post by: nagamin on September 12, 2009, 10:31:00 AM
QUOTE(InsaneNutter @ Sep 12 2009, 11:52 AM)
Thought I might have the wrong thing somehow lol IÂ’m getting there, atleast I know what IÂ’m doing now!
So on this website http://www.bitsbox.co.uk/connects.html#dcon I want the 25-Way D-connector “plug” which has solder bucket connections?
(IMG:http://upload.digiex.net/files/rnmqoik2kdt761su6dk0.jpg)
Get the Plug. Every PC come with socket.
QUOTE(tonny_online @ Sep 12 2009, 11:43 AM)
Hello, I managed to extract the Nand and also got the downgrade to 1888.
By placing a game Original (Black Site Area 51) he asked to update, I accepted the update and then to follow the Xbox 360 was no video.
Now when I turn on my Xbox 360 and the 3 red lights.
Could anyone help me?
Find out what is your secondry errr code. Press and hold Syn button and press eject, note the flashinglights.Do it 4 times. Then post you flashing combination. Like 4-2-1-1.,, wha ever you saw.
Someone will help you out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Post by: DuggyUK on September 12, 2009, 11:04:00 AM
Post by: 4NZ33 on September 12, 2009, 11:26:00 AM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Sep 12 2009, 06:04 PM)
do you solder the 330Ohm resistors to the top of the board or through the holes to the underside of the board?
I did mine on top no need to push the whole way through!
Post by: ToBbErT on September 12, 2009, 11:48:00 AM
Post by: DuggyUK on September 12, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
the holes are HUGE so its not an issue of difficulty, rather which is right.
This post has been edited by DuggyUK: Sep 12 2009, 08:26 PM
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 12, 2009, 02:52:00 PM
QUOTE(Relapse75 @ Sep 12 2009, 04:34 PM)
Follow the pictures that all you have to do. I HIGHLY recommend NOT using the 100 ohm resistors. They normally cause a bad flash config, or errors when reading. But if you must use them then go ahead, but when it doesn't work take them off then it will work.
Uhm, 3 people cant read their nand anymore because their SMC is blown, and one other has a dead xbox, if they only used a couple of resistors for the lpt port.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Better do as Nagamin says, smaller resistor is ok, no problem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
There is probably a better value for the resistors that works in almost all cases, but unless anyone tries it that is having problems we wont know...
This post has been edited by maximilian0017: Sep 12 2009, 09:53 PM
Post by: Relapse75 on September 12, 2009, 04:11:00 PM
PS I'm pretty sure reading the NAND has nothing to do with the SMC, the SMC is what is used to enable the hack with the 3 points on the JTAG. The smc is hooked up to different points then the LPT. And you are correct that the SMC does HAVE to HAVE the 330 ohm resistors.
This post has been edited by Relapse75: Sep 12 2009, 11:15 PM
Post by: DuggyUK on September 12, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
QUOTE(maximilian0017 @ Sep 12 2009, 09:52 PM)
Uhm, 3 people cant read their nand anymore because their SMC is blown, and one other has a dead xbox, if they only used a couple of resistors for the lpt port.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Better do as Nagamin says, smaller resistor is ok, no problem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
There is probably a better value for the resistors that works in almost all cases, but unless anyone tries it that is having problems we wont know...
who are the three?
Post by: majinsoftware on September 12, 2009, 09:03:00 PM
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 13, 2009, 08:56:00 AM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Sep 13 2009, 02:02 AM)
who are the three?
Phew, dont remember al the people i talked to, but on XboxHacker Duggyuk and Cliffy++ are now unable to read their NAND anymore and Bolundu has a almost dead Xbox
If you look around more people are having problems, and i cannot confirm for 100% that the users damaged their xbox by not using the resistors(do not have the xboxes here for an autopsy), but kicking 5v into a 3,3v SMC without any kind of protection is very high in the list.
A lot of people arent as handy with a soldering iron etc and a smal mistake(like turning the db25 numbering around(At least 2 people)) can kill your box and a simple resistor goes a long way to prevent that.
Have replaced a lot of CIA's on the Amiga as a kid, all due to no protection of the parralel port/static discharge.....
Still thinking that a different value resistors would solve all problems
Post by: torne on September 14, 2009, 04:39:00 AM
The safe option is to start with a higher resistance and decrease it until it successfully IDs the flash chip. You want to be using the highest resistor values that don't prevent it working, if you care about having your console continue to work. Resistors are cheap and it should only take thirty seconds to swap them over...
Post by: tonny_online on September 14, 2009, 05:03:00 AM
By placing a game Original (Black Site Area 51) he asked to update, I accepted the update and then to follow the Xbox 360 was no video.
Now when I turn on my Xbox 360 and the 3 red lights.
Post by: ToBbErT on September 14, 2009, 05:22:00 AM
The specific type of hardware failure can be determined by a "hidden" error code
* Turn the xbox 360 on, and wait till the 3 red lights are flashing.
* Press and hold the sync up button (the small white one), while holding that button press the eject button.
* The LEDs will now blink the first number in the code (as described below).
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the second number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the third number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the forth number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will go back to the 3 red flashing lights.
You should be able to determine the difference between the 3 flashing lights and the error code lights by the rate in which they flash.
Here is how you interpret the LEDs to get the code number:
* All four lights flashing - 0
* One light flashing - 1
* Two Lights flashing - 2
* Three lights flashing - 3
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It dont think its gonna help if your gonna give the error code. Just try to re-flash it with your original dump. Im pretty sure the update screwed it up some somehow.
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Sep 14 2009, 12:41 PM
Post by: tonny_online on September 14, 2009, 06:14:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 14 2009, 08:22 AM)
Post the error code tonny
The specific type of hardware failure can be determined by a "hidden" error code
* Turn the xbox 360 on, and wait till the 3 red lights are flashing.
* Press and hold the sync up button (the small white one), while holding that button press the eject button.
* The LEDs will now blink the first number in the code (as described below).
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the second number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the third number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will now blink the forth number of the code.
* Release the eject button and press it again.
* The LEDs will go back to the 3 red flashing lights.
You should be able to determine the difference between the 3 flashing lights and the error code lights by the rate in which they flash.
Here is how you interpret the LEDs to get the code number:
* All four lights flashing - 0
* One light flashing - 1
* Two Lights flashing - 2
* Three lights flashing - 3
edit
It dont think its gonna help if your gonna give the error code. Just try to re-flash it with your original dump. Im pretty sure the update screwed it up some somehow.
History is as follows: I back up the NAND, I wrote the xenon_hack.bin, I saved my DVDKEY, wrote the backup nand, the Xbox 360 called the driver but usually did not read the original game, i decided to downgrade, I downgrade to 1888 put the game "Black site area 51" and asked to update, so I was happy but then I was sad because of the Xbox 3 red lights (0230), I decided to write again but the backup continues sending the 3 lights Red (0230), someone could help me?
Post by: nagamin on September 14, 2009, 06:51:00 AM
Anyone! did he blown efuse or whatever?
"0230"
What is that? You are in deep XXXX buddy.
Post by: ToBbErT on September 14, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Post by: tonny_online on September 14, 2009, 09:09:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 14 2009, 11:13 AM)
Just try restoring your nand with the back up you made. And if that fails try flashing it with Xell again and see if the rrod disapears. If the rrod stays then it could be a hardware failure, and afaik the 0230 is a unknown error. Only microsoft knows what the error means (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Thanks friend, I will try to mince Xell here give the answer.
I already tried to restore the NAND with the back-up but still RROD.
Thank`s
Post by: modslave on September 14, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
QUOTE(tonny_online @ Sep 14 2009, 04:09 PM)
I already tried to restore the NAND with the back-up but still RROD.
Please come the day when this hack will be possible on the Jasper unit so hopefully the RROD will not be such an issue and time can be better spent advancing the software
This post has been edited by modslave: Sep 14 2009, 06:46 PM
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 14, 2009, 02:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Relapse75 @ Sep 13 2009, 12:11 AM)
Every time somebody asks me why there isn't working and tells me they have resistors I tell them to ditch them and lo and behold it works.
Just like the guy who wired his LPT port the wrong way around and then removed the resistors because they were "Optional", tried x pc's before fixing his wiring and "still" could not read anything.
QUOTE(Relapse75 @ Sep 13 2009, 12:11 AM)
PS I'm pretty sure reading the NAND has nothing to do with the SMC, the SMC is what is used to enable the hack with the 3 points on the JTAG. The smc is hooked up to different points then the LPT. And you are correct that the SMC does HAVE to HAVE the 330 ohm resistors.
As:
QUOTE
The SMC is in the southbridge.
everyone means the same chip.
I probably should have said Southbridge as the SMC is part of it, that would be copletely correct, but they have everything to do with each other.
All the used connectors for the hack except 1 jtag debug port are connected to the southbridge:
Info
QUOTE(torne @ Sep 14 2009, 12:39 PM)
Whether you need the resistors depends on the LPT port voltage and on the length and resistance of the wire you are using.
The safe option is to start with a higher resistance and decrease it until it successfully IDs the flash chip. You want to be using the highest resistor values that don't prevent it working, if you care about having your console continue to work. Resistors are cheap and it should only take thirty seconds to swap them over...
Good advice,
But to make sure i measured a standard 2 Meter lpt cable and 100 meters of extra thin UTP cable and both resistor values were extremely low, so the long cable issue is probably interference of some kind.
A buffered design is much better but it isn't as reachable for Electronics Noobs.
Maby Seed studio could make a small buffered board for us at a low price, shipping should not be a problem for them as they already ship everywhere at low prices.
It would be interesting to see someone with a 3,3v lpt try different resistor value's so that we can determine the maximum resistor value that works for 3,3v
Take care to measure both the data(d0-d7) and the control lines, as i have a machine here that has 3,3v for data and 5v for control.
QUOTE(tonny_online @ Sep 14 2009, 02:14 PM)
History is as follows: I back up the NAND, I wrote the xenon_hack.bin, I saved my DVDKEY, wrote the backup nand, the Xbox 360 called the driver but usually did not read the original game, i decided to downgrade, I downgrade to 1888 put the game "Black site area 51" and asked to update, so I was happy but then I was sad because of the Xbox 3 red lights (0230), I decided to write again but the backup continues sending the 3 lights Red (0230), someone could help me?
Did you disable writing the fuses by removing the R6T3 resistor?
Was the Xbox repaired at some time?(X-clamp, etc)
As said by ToBbErT, Please flash XELL again and compare all the fuses with your previous dump, if you do not have an overview of the old fuse settings you can compare the fuses as they are now with your flash dump fuse setting.
This post has been edited by maximilian0017: Sep 14 2009, 09:09 PM
Post by: lilhaywood on September 14, 2009, 04:25:00 PM
also i dont have the diode on.. but i dont think im at that point yet. I did install the driver that nandpro comes with. so i dont know whats going on...
vista by the way.
This post has been edited by lilhaywood: Sep 14 2009, 11:25 PM
Post by: Antman1 on September 14, 2009, 06:00:00 PM
Post by: Antman1 on September 14, 2009, 07:30:00 PM
Post by: majinsoftware on September 14, 2009, 07:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Antman1 @ Sep 15 2009, 03:30 AM)
I also wanted to add to the above post. I am using the newest dashboard update, is this a problem too? I can read and write to the nand though without any problems.
Yes that is a problem, Newest update disables the exploit so it wont work on your xbox.
Post by: Antman1 on September 14, 2009, 11:00:00 PM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Sep 14 2009, 08:39 PM)
Yes that is a problem, Newest update disables the exploit so it wont work on your xbox.
Thats weird I dont have to load king kong explouit from what I understand. I have direct read/write access to the nand. What exploit was disabled?
Post by: majinsoftware on September 14, 2009, 11:49:00 PM
read write to nand has always been possible its nothing to do with the exploit.
Post by: Antman1 on September 15, 2009, 04:55:00 AM
Post by: majinsoftware on September 15, 2009, 05:02:00 AM
Post by: Antman1 on September 15, 2009, 05:06:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Sep 15 2009, 06:02 AM)
All 2 different nand dumps that section is just all FF
then mine is very strange. I have this 329D0E6936612C4XXF44BCE20EE2036F and it shows in a few different places. I changed a few characters but that shows in a few different spots.
do your dumps have the newest update from M$?
This post has been edited by Antman1: Sep 15 2009, 12:11 PM
Post by: majinsoftware on September 15, 2009, 05:32:00 AM
Post by: lilhaywood on September 15, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 15, 2009, 02:04:00 PM
QUOTE(lilhaywood @ Sep 15 2009, 12:25 AM)
Okay, so i wired everything up today with a friend, pluged it in, it red ringed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) and fixed it. I run nandpro and this is the error i get - http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t61/lilhaywod/error.jpg
also i dont have the diode on.. but i dont think im at that point yet. I did install the driver that nandpro comes with. so i dont know whats going on...
vista by the way.
Ok, the DlPortIO.sys warning is a clear indication that the port95nt.exe install did not go correctly or you did not reboot after install
Try the following:
If you did not reboot after install just reboot and try to read the flash
Otherwise
1. Uninstall port95nt.exe if possible and reboot,
2. After that press the left mouse button on the port95nt.exe icon and change the "interoperability mode" to "Windows XP (service pack 2)"
3. Run the port95nt.exe setup again and after that reboot.
4. Try to read the flash
This post has been edited by maximilian0017: Sep 15 2009, 09:06 PM
Post by: lilhaywood on September 15, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
This post has been edited by lilhaywood: Sep 15 2009, 09:51 PM
Post by: ANGRY OZY on September 15, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
i have just set this up a few questions, i haven't got the 100ohm resistors will i still be ok? and my bois doesn't have Spp mode, its Normal mode the same?
thanks
Post by: JTPaintball on September 15, 2009, 06:15:00 PM
Post by: ToBbErT on September 15, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
Post by: Tidyboy89 on September 15, 2009, 06:46:00 PM
bios flash so we could boot everything and change what ever we want.. like the xbox.....?
Post by: JTPaintball on September 15, 2009, 07:04:00 PM
hey well isn't there ways to do it via xd cards? or don't you think its really worth it to have dual kernels
Post by: ToBbErT on September 15, 2009, 07:23:00 PM
Post by: aspiretoshred on September 15, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
If I'm just wanting my dvd drive key can I simply read from the NAND or am I extracting it in the same process? Why is xenon.bin needed?
Post by: majinsoftware on September 15, 2009, 08:17:00 PM
And you need to be running dash version below 8XXX for xenon.bin to work.
Post by: JTPaintball on September 15, 2009, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: aspiretoshred on September 16, 2009, 07:57:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Sep 15 2009, 09:17 PM)
xenon.bin has xell in it which is needed to get the cpukey to decrypt the keyvault which has the dvdkey in it.
And you need to be running dash version below 8XXX for xenon.bin to work.
Alright, so I'll run Nand, it'll create a file with the info on it? Do I start Xenon.bin in cmd, or is it a windows app? what tool do I use to decrypt the keyvault, the one called 360 flasher. Yes I'm below that dash version.
Thanks and sorry for the trouble, just that there are so many different ways to "flash" that I'm not sure which one to follow.
Post by: tonny_online on September 16, 2009, 11:33:00 AM
Was the Xbox repaired at some time?(X-clamp, etc)
As said by ToBbErT, Please flash XELL again and compare all the fuses with your previous dump, if you do not have an overview of the old fuse settings you can compare the fuses as they are now with your flash dump fuse setting.
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Not the Xbox never had RROD.
Never needed Champ therefore never had RROD just had lost DVDKey.
Can someone else help me?
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 16, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
QUOTE(lilhaywood @ Sep 15 2009, 10:49 PM)
Thanks, i got it running, but i was now getting the typical error where it goes through the 3 addresses and then says fatal error cant detect a flash device.. im sure the 360 is pluged into the computer correctly now, because it wont turned on while connected to PC. so.. should i try without the resistors? or another PC first?
Removing the resistors is dangerous for your xbox, if you are absolutely positive about your wiring(test with a multimeter)please try an older pc, otherwise replace the 100ohm resistors by a smaller value like 50 ohms.
QUOTE(ANGRY OZY @ Sep 16 2009, 01:26 AM)
i have just set this up a few questions, i haven't got the 100ohm resistors will i still be ok? and my bois doesn't have Spp mode, its Normal mode the same?
Same as above, removing the resistors is dangerous for your xbox, if you have a multimeter please check the voltage level of your pc, if the data (see pinout D0-D7) and the controll lines are 3,3v it would be relatively safe but absolutely at your own risk.
QUOTE(aspiretoshred @ Sep 16 2009, 03:57 PM)
Alright, so I'll run Nand, it'll create a file with the info on it? Do I start Xenon.bin in cmd, or is it a windows app? what tool do I use to decrypt the keyvault, the one called 360 flasher. Yes I'm below that dash version.
Thanks and sorry for the trouble, just that there are so many different ways to "flash" that I'm not sure which one to follow.
Please read up before trying
Free60 read the NAND
QUOTE(tonny_online @ Sep 16 2009, 07:33 PM)
Not the Xbox never had RROD.
Never needed Champ therefore never had RROD just had lost DVDKey.
Can someone else help me?
Please try XELL again, post the fuse settings here, if you have the old fuse settings please also post, but first XXXXXX your cpukey for both
Get the ldv values out of the NAND dump
Did you take the motherboard out of the casing?
This post has been edited by maximilian0017: Sep 16 2009, 08:34 PM
Post by: ToBbErT on September 16, 2009, 01:42:00 PM
1. Use this tool to download the files you need http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/Ek...pAFGWFFStWd.php
2. Install the LPT cable ect for reading/writing the nand http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=690493
3. Go to your pc's bios and look if you can switch the lpt port to spp mode. According to other people a pci card wont work!
4. Once you've connected everything download NandPro20a and extract the files to c:\NandPro20a.
5. Install the port95nt.exe from the NandPro20a directory and once its finished restart your pc.
6. Download xenon_hack-20090911 and extract the xenon_hack.bin to the NandPro20a directory.
7. Go to run and type "cmd" and then copy/paste this text to the prompt screen "c:\NandPro20a\NandPro.exe lpt: -r16 nand.bin" without " ofcourse and hit enter. Nandpro should come with this info :
Testing LPT device address:0378
Using LPT device at address:0378
FlashConfig:01198010
Starting Block:0x000000
Ending Block:0x0003FF
03FF
Hit enter again to start reading the nand.
note. The flashconfig should be 01198010 but if its differend then check your wiring or try other resistors (lower ohm). Do the same if you get the "Fatal Error" message.Only change the resistors on the back of the LPT connector, not the 330 ohm resistors that are being used for the exploit! Also check
if you soldered the switch diode.
8. Make a few dumps and compare them to see if they are identical. Also check with degraded to see if the dump is valid. Here's how to use degraded 1.1b :
Start degraded 1.1b and go to settings and fill in the 1BL key and check the valid box. I cant post the 1BL key couse that seem to break the forum rules.
Google it and you will find. Now you should be able to open the dump.
note. If you get alot of errors you may need to check your wires ect to see if there's anything wrong. If you get a block error while reading dont worry!
Block errors on the nand are perfectly normal but the errors must return the same everytime you dump the nand. Its not good when you get differend block errors!
9. Once your sure you have a valid dump you can start writing xell to the nand by using this command "c:\NandPro20a\NandPro.exe lpt: -w16 xenon_hack.bin" Once the nand is flashed you can shutdown
your pc and unplug the LPT connector from your pc.
10. Boot your 360 and you will get a blue screen with text scrolling down wich contains the CPU KEY (combine fuseset 03 and 05 and you will have your cpu key).
note. The cpu key and 1BL key are used for decrypting the nand with the program called degraded. This allows you to downgrade and upgrade to differend kernels.
Dont go higher then 7371 couse that will stop this hack from working!
11. Now lets update XELL. Download updxell-20090911 and unpack the rar file. Rename the file "updxell-20090911.bin" to "updxell.bin" and copy the file to the root of your usb stick.
Insert the usb stick in your 360 and boot it up to update.
12. Now lets install a emulator! Download Snes9x-Gx-Beta001 and unpack the rar file. Copy the file Xenon.elf to the root of your usb stick.
Insert the usb stick in your 360 and boot it up to install.
Im sorry if i miss anything or made a mistake!
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Sep 16 2009, 08:43 PM
Post by: lilhaywood on September 16, 2009, 01:51:00 PM
QUOTE(maximilian0017 @ Sep 16 2009, 03:32 PM)
Removing the resistors is dangerous for your xbox, if you are absolutely positive about your wiring(test with a multimeter)please try an older pc, otherwise replace the 100ohm resistors by a smaller value like 50 ohms.
I cant test an older PC, this is the oldest one in the house (either 2001 or 2003) im using 47 ohms resistors. I figured it would be good cuz their right in the middle (between none and 100).
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 16, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 16 2009, 09:42 PM)
3. Go to your pc's bios and look if you can switch the lpt port to spp mode. According to other people a pci card wont work!
Most PCI cards dont work because the adresses it uses aren't standard, some PCI cards can remap to the old adressed, you could try to update to the latest drivers for your pci card and look at the settings under device manager.
SPP is "Standard Parallel Port" also called "Normal" mode
QUOTE(lilhaywood @ Sep 16 2009, 09:51 PM)
I cant test an older PC, this is the oldest one in the house (either 2001 or 2003) im using 47 ohms resistors. I figured it would be good cuz their right in the middle (between none and 100).
You could try to go lower, but first check your wiring and the lpt voltage level for data and control lines.
If all at 5v it should have worked with 100 or 50 Ohms, probably something else is wrong.
With all 3,3v you could go to something like 20 Ohms (Always at your own risk)
Are you sing the diode at the xbox side?
Post by: tonny_online on September 16, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
QUOTE
Please try XELL again, post the fuse settings here, if you have the old fuse settings please also post, but first XXXXXX your cpukey for both
Get the ldv values out of the NAND dump
Did you take the motherboard out of the casing?
I tried the XELL and keeps giving the same Fuses and LDV.
The motherboard is in the casing.
This post has been edited by tonny_online: Sep 16 2009, 09:51 PM
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 17, 2009, 02:05:00 AM
QUOTE(tonny_online @ Sep 16 2009, 10:50 PM)
I tried the XELL and keeps giving the same Fuses and LDV.
XELL runs so that is positive, at least homebrew is possible, maby later with a rebooter you can play xbox games again..
Ok, the (MAX) LDV match the NAND image if i understand correctly (you checked this right?)
If you did not have any problems dumping the NAND and later reflashing it to full standard function, and you did not change anything to your setup this is very strange.
Possibly something did change, like having a cell phone there causing interference while flashing or maby a page of the NAND went bad.
Flash a few times with the original image and look if the error code changes.
You could try to make a new downgraded image and flash that, afterwards if that works you can upgrade back to the dash you had, take care of the LDV fuse settings.
Other than that i have no idea as this is a new error code and i hope someone else has an idea.
What i meant with the motherboard remark is if you removed the motherboard while soldering the jtag/lpt hack.
This post has been edited by maximilian0017: Sep 17 2009, 09:07 AM
Post by: huskerman99 on September 17, 2009, 05:45:00 AM
I'm a cheap person and bargain shop.
The picture that starts this forum indicates the backside of an LPT port, labeled with colors and some numbers. I had read numerous posts to disregard the numbers, match up the colors to the respective point on the Mainboard..
So here is what I did...
I took my old computer motherboard I had laying around and unsoldered the LPT port that was built into the motherboard of this old computer. Boom! No need to order an adapter I will just use this bad boy. So I turned it around and soldered up exactly as shown. So on the backside of this LPT port starting from the top far right, as the picture shows, with 13 pins on top and 12 on bottom. This is my mistake that cost me a week of tinkering around. Apparently this is not the same as the adapter pictured. My "LPT adapter" is labeled pin 1 thru pin 25. and the numbers on the photo, must match this sequence. Take the photo from the Original Poster... it shows pin 1 to be on the top far right. If you have done what I did, this is not correct. Pin one would be on the far top left, counting up to thirteen, and then begin pin 14 bottom left thru pin 25(bottom right) . My"adapter" is pin 1 on both sides of the adapter, meaning its labeled on the female plug side and the hole is straight through. I wish I had photos to share of it.
Needless to say if you look at original poster photo, the numbers listed are the actual pin numbers you should be soldered to. In his/her photo pin thirteen is on top left, but this is not the case always. So those of you who get Fatal error Cannot detect flash controller, try flipping your wires with pin 1 on the top left instead of the right. and pin 14 on bottom left instead of bottom right. I had mine hooked up for a week incorrectly and did not burn anything up so even just trying should be OK.
The problems I experienced when it was hooked up the way the diagram shows, was that the Xbox would not power up when LPT is connected to computer, and also Nandpro would not find the flash controller. I switched my connections on a thought that maybe those numbers did have meaning, and it detected my flash right away, as well as dumped my nand.bin!!! FYI I had no resistors installed nor did i need a diode.
I do not know the reason for this, and the only thing I can speculate is that perhaps a REAL adapter switches the pinout or is not straight through? Just a thought that might help someone who is in the same boat. If this is not good enough I can get photos if you need them.
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 17, 2009, 08:06:00 AM
QUOTE(huskerman99 @ Sep 17 2009, 01:45 PM)
The picture that starts this forum indicates the backside of an LPT port, labeled with colors and some numbers. I had read numerous posts to disregard the numbers, match up the colors to the respective point on the Mainboard..
Removing the connector from a motherboard is really extreme, and using no resistors with an old pc and wiring it wrong the first time you should be really happy that your xbox survived.
The weight of €2,- of parts next to a €200,- xbox is well.......
Just to be clear,
On the solder side of the db25 the numbering is:
13-------------1
25------------14
I would really like a picture of a male db25 connector with other numering on it, have soldered at least 50 cables and a few projects and have never seen a connector with wrong numbering.
Also the 20 connectors i have lying around here are also correct.
People wont suspect the numbering being this way as the female connector has the normal 123456etc.
Just flipping the wires around is a bad idea, just make sure you have it the right way around, with all the pictures around here it should be simple.
This post has been edited by maximilian0017: Sep 17 2009, 03:10 PM
Post by: JTPaintball on September 17, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
Post by: nagamin on September 17, 2009, 04:14:00 PM
All I know those 3x330 ohms resistor for JTAG setup is mean for Xenon motherboard.
Elite 07 should be Zypher. For that type of console you need to wait alittle bit longer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: JTPaintball on September 17, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
Post by: nagamin on September 17, 2009, 05:38:00 PM
Somebody Help me!!!!!!
You should not try this method, if you don't know your MOB version.
Please read and learn through the other topic in this forum.
I can't explain that much. I'm gonna get suspend from forum. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: JTPaintball on September 17, 2009, 06:09:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: nagamin on September 17, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
Post by: Futaba on September 18, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
Zephyr mb, almost the same to xenon. Has anybody already discovered left part?
This post has been edited by Futaba: Sep 18 2009, 08:05 AM
Post by: InsaneNutter on September 18, 2009, 11:58:00 AM
I then flashed xenon_hack-20090911 which i got from xbins to my 360. After I disconnected the 360 from my pc and powered the 360 on. I was greeted with a black screen and after 10-15 seconds my 360 showed 3 red rings. Before the 360 shows the red rings i can press the button to sync controllers and the circle spins green.
Has anyone got any idea what the problem could be? Ive flashed my backed up nand back and the 360 boots to the dash perfectly.
Do I have to flash an older version of the xenon hack? I noticed the original is a full 16mb where as the one from the 11th of September is 1.28mb.
If its any help here is the command prompt log I got when flashing xenon, it appears to have flashed fine
(IMG:http://upload.digiex.net/files/9stmt29mtmfjizh7lezy.jpg)
Here is the command prompt log of when I flashed my nand back and the 360 booted the dash fine.
(IMG:http://upload.digiex.net/files/77p2623806ev9r0a1m0r.jpg)
Any advice would be appreciated, it seems like im so close (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) yet so far!
Post by: lilhaywood on September 18, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
QUOTE(maximilian0017 @ Sep 16 2009, 04:48 PM)
You could try to go lower, but first check your wiring and the lpt voltage level for data and control lines.
If all at 5v it should have worked with 100 or 50 Ohms, probably something else is wrong.
With all 3,3v you could go to something like 20 Ohms (Always at your own risk)
Are you sing the diode at the xbox side?
I just checked my wireing. im sure its right.. I have checked like 15 times. I cant check voltage i dont have a voltage meter. my friend has one so maybe he will come over this weekend and we will try.. If my volts is at 3.3 can i take resitors off and try?
Post by: aspiretoshred on September 18, 2009, 05:17:00 PM
I've soldered up everything, but I still don't know what "flashing the Nand" means. I need Xenon_hack.bin, which auto xbins isn't working at the moment (for me at least). once I have that do I put it in the Nand dir somewhere? Then I just double click on Nand executible with the 360 hooked up to PC but not on. Will it prompt me where to save the file it comes out with? Is it dos based, if so i need to be pointed in direction of commands. Also I tried to go educate myself at the Free60- reading/writing to the Nand wiki page, but someone had deleted it all! Please help me out, I'm not wanting to alter my 360 just get the DVD key somehow and enter it in my drive.
Post by: lilhaywood on September 18, 2009, 09:42:00 PM
Post by: nagamin on September 18, 2009, 10:07:00 PM
QUOTE(aspiretoshred @ Sep 18 2009, 07:17 PM)
Hey guys,
I've soldered up everything, but I still don't know what "flashing the Nand" means. I need Xenon_hack.bin, which auto xbins isn't working at the moment (for me at least). once I have that do I put it in the Nand dir somewhere? Then I just double click on Nand executible with the 360 hooked up to PC but not on. Will it prompt me where to save the file it comes out with? Is it dos based, if so i need to be pointed in direction of commands. Also I tried to go educate myself at the Free60- reading/writing to the Nand wiki page, but someone had deleted it all! Please help me out, I'm not wanting to alter my 360 just get the DVD key somehow and enter it in my drive.
NANDpro is not win32 program. Must run under DOS prompt. There is instruction file in that folder.
Name NANDPro.txt, read it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Post by: Futaba on September 19, 2009, 01:11:00 AM
QUOTE(RolF2 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:33 PM)
ok ,lets talk about J1F1 alternative points
here is pic of old motherboard and alternative points for it :
and here is pic of newer board with hdmi :
so i think we can use R2B19 and R2B16 as alternative points on newer motherboards, but where is R2B18 ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
R.
Can you trace that pin (red dot) on other side of xenon mb?
(IMG:http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5196/nohdmi.jpg)
Post by: ToBbErT on September 19, 2009, 02:22:00 AM
Post by: Futaba on September 19, 2009, 06:14:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 19 2009, 10:22 AM)
There's no point in searching the alternative point guys...... And if you accomplish to figure it out you still have nothing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Why?
Post by: ToBbErT on September 19, 2009, 07:13:00 AM
Post by: Futaba on September 19, 2009, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 19 2009, 03:13 PM)
Maybe becouse we dont have a xell version that runs on newer models? Im pretty sure they allready know the alternative points but they just wont reveal it, simply becouse there is no software for the newer models. Releasing the alternative points would only couse harm (bricking 360's).
Well... it can be just about reading\writing nand(if i want to knew my dvd\cpu keys, maybe change region), XELL is second thing....
Post by: ToBbErT on September 19, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
Post by: nagamin on September 19, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
May be I'm in bad mode. Or I'm s*****. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Post by: jayboy86 on September 19, 2009, 04:27:00 PM
file at this size, thanks guys
Post by: nagamin on September 19, 2009, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(jayboy86 @ Sep 19 2009, 06:27 PM)
hi guys, been having trouble with my xell lately then all of a sudden it decided it didnt want tot boot anymore. so i want to start ver problem is i cant remember which nand file is my original 360. im pretty sure i have found my original, its called nand.bin and its 16,896kb in size. can anyone tell me if they have their original nand i
file at this size, thanks guys
Hummmm..
Yes, it is correct. 16.5 MB, 16,896 KB or 17,310,504 bytes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: mx3 on September 19, 2009, 06:11:00 PM
(IMG:http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4797/jtagreaderror.th.jpg)
Post by: nagamin on September 19, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
QUOTE(mx3 @ Sep 19 2009, 08:11 PM)
I got my box wired up today , the diode but it not connected directly to the mainboard , also none of the 100ohm resistor are connected, is thats what cause the error .. here is the error i keep getting
(IMG:http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4797/jtagreaderror.th.jpg)
Make sure all cable are connect as tut, plug in your PSU to MOB, Diode was black side point at MOB, atleast 50 ohms resistor on place.
I'm also got that error when connection was wrong or not properly connected. Please check your wiring.
But you got wrong wiring and without resistor, you are in history. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
This post has been edited by nagamin: Sep 20 2009, 01:42 AM
Post by: mx3 on September 19, 2009, 06:51:00 PM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 19 2009, 07:41 PM)
Make sure all cable are connect as tut, plug in your PSU to MOB, Diode was black side point at MOB, atleast 50 ohms resistor on place.
I'm also got that error when connection was wrong or not properly connected. Please check your wiring.
But you got wrong wiring and without resistor, you are in history. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
yes the black side point to the mob ..
Post by: nagamin on September 19, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: mx3 on September 19, 2009, 09:07:00 PM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 19 2009, 08:25 PM)
Sorry! your flash config was something wrong. try with another pc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
i haven't tried another pc yet... since i don't want to kill the board, should i put on the resistor before i try another pc ?
Post by: nagamin on September 19, 2009, 09:17:00 PM
The person who release this method was descripted in instruction.
Also remember to unplug PSU when you solder or desolder. Nothing to be hurry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Happy modding.
Post by: mx3 on September 19, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 19 2009, 10:17 PM)
Please do that for safe, because LPT port voltage my 5v or 3.3v.
The person who release this method was descripted in instruction.
Also remember to unplug PSU when you solder or desolder. Nothing to be hurry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Happy modding.
Always unplug psu when solder and desolder ....
Post by: Futaba on September 20, 2009, 09:09:00 AM
Post by: mx3 on September 20, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Sep 19 2009, 08:25 PM)
Sorry! your flash config was something wrong. try with another pc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
I try again pc , and here is what i got.
(IMG:http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3185/dsc00465bo.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2947/dsc00468kk.th.jpg)
How can i check if the nand dump is good?
when i try open it in 360 flash, i get couldn't read file .
Are the 1BL and Cpu keys need for the software to be able to open it?
i should make a second nand backup.
Post by: majinsoftware on September 20, 2009, 11:40:00 PM
Also you can check for bad pages with downgrader. its on xbins.
Post by: mx3 on September 20, 2009, 11:43:00 PM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Sep 21 2009, 12:40 AM)
Yes make another dump and compare them in hex editor.
Also you can check for bad pages with downgrader. its on xbins.
I will take a pic of it and upload ..
Post by: mx3 on September 21, 2009, 01:27:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Sep 21 2009, 12:40 AM)
Yes make another dump and compare them in hex editor.
Also you can check for bad pages with downgrader. its on xbins.
What should i be looking for when i am comparing the flash in the hex editor?
When i try to load the file in downgrader i keep getting a error (couldn't read file)...
Post by: ToBbErT on September 21, 2009, 03:00:00 AM
A. You dont search manually for any difference. There's a option in your hex editor that lets you compare the two files. The program will tell if there are any differences.
Q. When i try to load the file in downgrader i keep getting a error (couldn't read file)...
A. You need to fill in the 1BL key in settings before opening the dump. Your nand dump might be corrupt if it still won't open after filling in the key.
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Sep 21 2009, 10:01 AM
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 21, 2009, 08:30:00 AM
QUOTE(lilhaywood @ Sep 19 2009, 05:42 AM)
Forget my previuse posts, figured it out, reading nand :3
What did you find??
Always nice to hear the resolution so we can help others.
QUOTE(Futaba @ Sep 19 2009, 02:14 PM)
Why?
Not only that we do not have the correct software, but the newer motherboards use these points for other things so we cannot use them anymore.
Just have to wait....
Post by: mx3 on September 21, 2009, 11:33:00 AM
(IMG:http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6898/dsc00469f.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/364/dsc00472l.th.jpg)
whats next after this.
This post has been edited by mx3: Sep 21 2009, 06:34 PM
Post by: ToBbErT on September 21, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: jayboy86 on September 21, 2009, 12:50:00 PM
thx guys
Post by: nagamin on September 21, 2009, 01:24:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 21 2009, 01:54 PM)
You need to stop asking questions and start reading ffs.
That's what I'm talking about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Post by: jayboy86 on September 21, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
Post by: ToBbErT on September 21, 2009, 02:43:00 PM
http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?action=%3Btopic=12307.0 You will need your CPU KEY in order to rebuild your nand.
Installing XELL to get your CPU KEY :
Im not sure if im right about what im gonna tell couse i have no xenon so i cant test anything. I think you first need to load your nand.bin in degraded and see what CB version you have (1920 or 1921). Then choose what XELL you need :
Full XELL ----> xenon_hack-20090911-----------newest XELL inserted into 1920 Xenon-Kernel
Full XELL ----> xenon_1921_hack-20090911--- newest XELL inserted into 1921 Xenon-Kernel
Install one of these hacks and then install this one :
Small update ----> updxell-20090911
You can also try to erase the whole nand with this command NandPro.exe lpt: -e16 0x000000 and then rewrite the nand.bin
This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Sep 21 2009, 09:59 PM
Post by: DuggyUK on September 22, 2009, 04:08:00 AM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 21 2009, 06:54 PM)
You need to stop asking questions and start reading ffs.
Chill out, if you want to help do so, if not ignore him. No need to bite his head off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 21 2009, 09:43 PM)
A corrupt nand.bin and problems with installing XELL are two seperate problems. First install your nand.bin again and see if your able to boot to your dashboard. If it doesnt boot then you most likely have a corrupt nand dump. Here's info about rebuilding your nand dump
http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?action=%3Btopic=12307.0 You will need your CPU KEY in order to rebuild your nand.
Installing XELL to get your CPU KEY :
Im not sure if im right about what im gonna tell couse i have no xenon so i cant test anything. I think you first need to load your nand.bin in degraded and see what CB version you have (1920 or 1921). Then choose what XELL you need :
Full XELL ----> xenon_hack-20090911-----------newest XELL inserted into 1920 Xenon-Kernel
Full XELL ----> xenon_1921_hack-20090911--- newest XELL inserted into 1921 Xenon-Kernel
Install one of these hacks and then install this one :
Small update ----> updxell-20090911
You can also try to erase the whole nand with this command NandPro.exe lpt: -e16 0x000000 and then rewrite the nand.bin
That's not strictly true IIRC, the new hack works with all CB versions where as the previous one was for 1920. I've flashed both on my xbox and they both seemed to work.
As a side (related) note, you have issues flashing the new xell you can use lflash to flash (just) that to your nand. You can get lflash from free60 git repository. I've done this and it works REALLY well (thank you tmbinc).
This post has been edited by DuggyUK: Sep 22 2009, 11:17 AM
Post by: DuggyUK on September 22, 2009, 04:28:00 AM
QUOTE(mx3 @ Sep 21 2009, 06:23 AM)
I try again pc , and here is what i got.
How can i check if the nand dump is good?
when i try open it in 360 flash, i get couldn't read file .
Are the 1BL and Cpu keys need for the software to be able to open it?
i should make a second nand backup.
open it in some tools as the other people say, also dump it a few times and compare the dumps, ensure they are the same!. On dos/windows you can use "fc" e.g.
fc /b dump1.bin dump2.bin
QUOTE(jayboy86 @ Sep 21 2009, 08:43 PM)
lol not going too well for me today, i tried one last time to re-flash and now the 360 wont even turn on anymore lol.
I had that every time i corrupted the nand (never a bad flash as i used infectus). Best thing to do is restore the good dump and start again :-)
Post by: DuggyUK on September 22, 2009, 05:13:00 AM
QUOTE(Grim187 @ Sep 19 2009, 06:58 AM)
xenon_hack will only work on pre 1921 cb's and is a full (16mb) nand.
xenon_hack1921 will work on all xenon cb's and is a patch (1mb) that takes less time to flash.
Post by: mx3 on September 22, 2009, 07:39:00 AM
QUOTE(DuggyUK @ Sep 22 2009, 05:28 AM)
open it in some tools as the other people say, also dump it a few times and compare the dumps, ensure they are the same!. On dos/windows you can use "fc" e.g.
fc /b dump1.bin dump2.bin
I had that every time i corrupted the nand (never a bad flash as i used infectus). Best thing to do is restore the good dump and start again :-)
I got it to work ,got a good dump with any error then make a second one which came without any error
I Flash with lastest xenon_hack it boot with problem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , it even display over composite it black and white ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
This post has been edited by mx3: Sep 22 2009, 02:40 PM
Post by: mx3 on September 22, 2009, 08:16:00 AM
QUOTE(mx3 @ Sep 22 2009, 08:39 AM)
I got it to work ,got a good dump with any error then make a second one which came without any error
I Flash with lastest xenon_hack it boot with problem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , it even display over composite it black and white ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I meant to say it boot without a problem
Post by: aspiretoshred on September 22, 2009, 08:22:00 AM
Alright, I've followed all the instructions to a T. I've been given no errors from Nandpro or degraded on my dump. Got my CPU Key off the xell boot or whatever (Blue screen). Then I open the 360 flash tool and extract my dvd key. After this I rewrite my orig nand to the 360. Now I've got the 3 flashing red lights RROD. I've tried this over and over (rewriting nand) same result. Also I've tried to downgrade to 1888 file system (as noted in Johnnyplok's? post on xboxhacker). Still same result. Has anyone else had similar probs, can anyone point me in right direction?
Post by: jayboy86 on September 22, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: ToBbErT on September 22, 2009, 11:04:00 AM
And DuggyUK i dont need to chill out. Those words i typed made perfect sence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Post by: DuggyUK on September 22, 2009, 01:58:00 PM
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 22 2009, 06:04 PM)
Can someone explain the size difference between the old Xell_DHCP_RGB_1024x786 hack (16.896 kb) and the new xenon_1921_hack-20090911 (1.320 kb)? From what i understand you only need to install the xenon_1921_hack-20090911 and the little update but why was the Xell_DHCP_RGB_1024x786 hack so big? Its confusing me.
And DuggyUK i dont need to chill out. Those words i typed made perfect sence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
They differ in the version of xell, and also the first one is a full dump of the nand, the other is JUST the Xell dumped. If you compile from source you'll end yo with a 1.3MB files yourself, thats about it. Just get the srcode from git and compile it yourself... oh and chilling out was so you go easy on the new guys, not about the accuracy of your posts (or otherwise).
Post by: ToBbErT on September 23, 2009, 09:04:00 AM
Post by: lilhaywood on September 23, 2009, 02:33:00 PM
Never mind. i tried it with another dump today and it worked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
This post has been edited by lilhaywood: Sep 23 2009, 09:47 PM
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 26, 2009, 11:36:00 AM
QUOTE(InsaneNutter @ Sep 18 2009, 07:58 PM)
Here is the command prompt log of when I flashed my nand back and the 360 booted the dash fine.
(IMG:http://upload.digiex.net/files/77p2623806ev9r0a1m0r.jpg)
Any advice would be appreciated, it seems like im so close (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) yet so far!
It's strage that anything happens at all as it is LPT in the commandline instead of LTP....
Post by: maximilian0017 on September 26, 2009, 12:02:00 PM
QUOTE(jayboy86 @ Sep 22 2009, 06:51 PM)
ok tried rebuilding nand with failure after failure, would anyone be willing to upload a backup for their nand so i can give it a try. if it doesnt work i can then rule it out. thx guys
You cannot use somebody elses NAND as they are encrypted differently (cpu key)
What you heard is probably that the Xbox will turn on again as the SMC part will work again, it will not go to the dashboard)
Watch you LDV value when downgrading to 1888!!
QUOTE(ToBbErT @ Sep 21 2009, 10:43 PM)
You can also try to erase the whole nand with this command NandPro.exe lpt: -e16 0x000000 and then rewrite the nand.bin
Sidenote:
If you erase the entire NAND you have to flash a complete 16 MB NAND file(Your original dump or the complete XELL version)) again before the xbox will turn on again.
This post has been edited by maximilian0017: Sep 26 2009, 07:05 PM
Post by: viper312005 on September 26, 2009, 07:13:00 PM
Post by: nagamin on September 27, 2009, 07:44:00 AM
QUOTE(viper312005 @ Sep 26 2009, 09:13 PM)
Haven't worked with resistors before and I found out theres different wattages, what size do I need to use to do this??? 1/4, 1/2??? Thxs
1/4 or 1/2 both are fine. You are only play in within 2 volt DC. 5 Volt and 3.3 Volt.
But try not in mix wattage.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Post by: p3pp8 on September 27, 2009, 10:22:00 AM
thanx in advance,
-p
Another question, is it possible to get da cpukey from original nand dump or xell is mandatory? coz i need only to recover my dvdkey....
thank you dudes
-p!
Post by: nagamin on September 27, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
You can dump with or without JTAG connection.
But for CPU key you must write Xell.bin on NAND and bootup with JTAG connection attached.
Without JTAG attached you can't bootup Xell.bin and you can't get CPU key.
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Post by: p3pp8 on September 27, 2009, 11:32:00 AM
thank you!
-p
Post by: nagamin on September 27, 2009, 11:38:00 AM
QUOTE(p3pp8 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:32 PM)
ok, many thanx dude, i've written down the xell.bin without any problem but i've to buy a vga cable to see if it boots up, i've just checked the lights and seems to be all right no rrod so i guess jtag is well connected, is there a way to verify the jtag, i'd like to be sure before buying a vga cable, i know the rca cable cannot be used at all.
thank you!
-p
If you have original component cable will be fine. The one with Blue, Green, Red and Red, White, Yellow cable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Post by: p3pp8 on September 27, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
thanx
-p
This post has been edited by p3pp8: Sep 27 2009, 06:53 PM
Post by: nagamin on September 27, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
QUOTE(p3pp8 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:50 PM)
yup i've that cable but no scart adapter, i use yellow white red, that is rca i guess. i dunno how to use rgb jacks, what can i do? i got an old tv that has just rca or scart input
thanx
-p
Just find TV with component input an dplug in that RED, Green, Blue to component socket.You can get Xell bootup with Blue and white screen. Take picture or note down keys. You have 5 sec to get it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Post by: p3pp8 on September 27, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
-p
Post by: niai on September 27, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
Post by: nagamin on September 27, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: mx3 on September 27, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
Post by: ToBbErT on September 29, 2009, 01:25:00 AM
Post by: BlueCop on September 30, 2009, 02:17:00 PM
I built my cable and tried a couple nandpro on a couple computers. neither found the device. I am trying to isolate the problem now but if someone could answer my question that would be great.
Post by: niai on September 30, 2009, 05:40:00 PM
QUOTE(mx3 @ Sep 28 2009, 01:33 AM)
The composite connection can work , it just show in black and white ...
theres not been any more news in a long time and due to the fact that thy only release the hack as m$ was patching the boot loader i would say he is working on getting the others working and then going to release all of them at ones
QUOTE(BlueCop @ Sep 30 2009, 09:17 PM)
Is it normal for the power supply led to turn red when the lpt cable is hooked up?
I built my cable and tried a couple nandpro on a couple computers. neither found the device. I am trying to isolate the problem now but if someone could answer my question that would be great.
no its not normal for the light to go red well it didnt happen to me with the 2 i flashed desolder and resolder the cable see if that helps
Post by: p3pp8 on October 01, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
Thanx in advance!
-p
Also, i had to solder resistors backward the motherboard becoz upper side one copper ring has been damaged, i think i've made a disaster with it. hope well
This post has been edited by p3pp8: Oct 1 2009, 08:49 PM
Post by: tta on October 02, 2009, 11:40:00 AM
QUOTE(p3pp8 @ Oct 1 2009, 12:43 PM)
Got the vga cable, connected but it shows nothing, uhmm, any idea? i'm going to totally erase the nand and put back the original one, i'm afraid the problem is at the 330 ohms resistor, no red light but no images too.
Thanx in advance!
-p
Also, i had to solder resistors backward the motherboard becoz upper side one copper ring has been damaged, i think i've made a disaster with it. hope well
For the resistors, it doesn't matter what side you you solder.
I think you were referring to the diode polarity.
Post by: Antman1 on October 02, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
This post has been edited by Antman1: Oct 2 2009, 06:56 PM
Post by: jayboy86 on October 02, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
i was trying to record the booting of the xell so i can have all the keys etc, so i tried using my easycap 2.0 but it wont show any picture, but my elite works fine. anyone have any idea why?
Post by: p3pp8 on October 02, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
I'm going to flash my lite-on drive with the right ixtreme re-spooffed(with the recovered key) firmware!!!
YEAH!
I think it would have worked the same without a vga cable but just as suggested by a friend here using one of the rgb jack as the composite so i think the problem was with the bad nand upload but anyway i wanted to buy it to use the console with my lcd monitor.
Thanx again!
Post by: p3pp8 on October 02, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
Thanx guys!
Post by: blackbelt/nl on October 03, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
Well i tryed everything.. with resistors without resistors, with diode without it.. every pc i have with an lpt port.. but nothing is working..
so now i am trying to get my old toshiba t1910 working to do this (this is the oldest computer i have)
my question is, does anyone know how i can get this to work under windows 95 (i have tryed but it gives the error that it is missing the cfgmgr32 dll file )
its a real hassle to get files on the laptop (as the floppy is shot, so i am forced to transplant the hdd to a diffrent laptop with a cd drive..) so before i want to go trough all thad again, does anyone know if i need more files.. or whatever to make this woprk under windows 95
thanks,
Blackbelt/nl
Post by: RRODXbox on October 05, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
If its any help I flash on a motherboard thats from around 2008 so new motherboards arent an issue. maybe you should poke around with the LPT settings in the bios?
Re the floppy drive, connect the laptop your router then install MSN or simalar and send yourself the files (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
No idea if w95 would work thou.
Post by: blob_54 on October 08, 2009, 05:37:00 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Introduction
This tutorial will explain the process required to mod your 360 so that it can play xbox 360 homebew emulators.. Please do not attempt this if you are not a advanced modder.
IMPORTANT
After peforming this hack the xbox 360 can only run homebrew not xbox games or dash unless you install a cynos chip, run the mod f/w on cynos chip and std f/w on the onboard nand chip or vise verser and switch between the 2 depending on what you want to run. If you do update with the latest xboxlive update homebrew will never run on that xbox again even if the update is done after the mod.
What you need
* xenon xbox360
* 5x 100ohm resistors
* 3x 330ohm resistors
* 1mtr kynar wire
* 1x old printer cable
(the type that you can unclick the plastic end bits to change pin config of the wires)
* pc with a printer port that operates in spp mode
(standard parallel port) most old pc's but some new pc's have it
* nandpro (put nandpro20 folder in the root of c drive)
* dlportio (comes with nandpro)
* xenon_hack.bin file (rename to hack and put in nandpro20 folder)
* hex comparison (or a md5 hash program)
What you need to do
1. solder in the lpt/jtag wires (as in the picture attached to this tutorial)
2. boot your pc to the bios settings ans set the lpt to spp mode
3. boot to windows xp (vista is incompatible) install dlportio driver and reboot pc
4. in the windows start menu click on run and type in command then press enter (opens command prompt)
5. plug the power into your xbox360 (does not need to be turned on) plug the lpt port into the pc
6. in command prompt type c: nandpro20 nandpro.exe lpt: -r16 nandbackup1.bin
7. in command prompt type c: nandpro20 nandpro.exe lpt: -r16 nandbackup2.bin
8. compare with hex comparison (if files are different repeat step 6,7,8 until they match so you are sure of a good backup)
9. in command prompt type c: nandpro20 nandpro.exe lpt: -w16 hack.bin
10. remove the lpt cable from the pc and boot the xbox360 and you should have a blue screen with writing (if you dont you *****ed up and need to repeat step 9)
11. unsolder the lptjtag wires but leave the ones with the 330ohm resistors they need to stay for life
12. just pop in a usb stick or disk with the desired apps or emulators and enjoy
This post has been edited by blob_54: Oct 8 2009, 12:55 PM
Post by: kspamhere on October 09, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: Reznik Akime on October 09, 2009, 06:59:00 PM
Post by: modman72 on October 09, 2009, 07:23:00 PM
Are there a good guide to retrieve dvd-keys?
Smoked alot of dope in the 60's
This post has been edited by modman72: Oct 10 2009, 02:27 AM
Post by: Antman1 on October 10, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
This post has been edited by Antman1: Oct 11 2009, 03:19 AM
Post by: blob_54 on October 10, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
QUOTE(Antman1 @ Oct 10 2009, 07:18 PM)
ok I got another 360 and this one is in the same boat as my other 360. this one has a bad hitachi drive that is dead. The dash on this console is the old pre NXE dash. is there anything special I need to do for it to work out? it is a Xenon board. I just simply want to solder the JTag and backup the nand twice then flash Xell to it then gab the CPU Key then decrypt the nand and open it up in the corresponding program for that and get me key. then reflash the nand with my backup I made and let the console update so my kids can use it on live again. does this all sound right? they dont care about homebrew and we need 2 xbox Live Consoles in home. Let me know if I am missing something. I am tackling this tomorrow.
yup that sounds right to me... I just did that to one I got from a guy months ago with a lost dvd key, AND IT WORKS AGAIN!!!!!!!! YUS!!!! lol.... do it and post back
Post by: Nothinbeter2do on October 11, 2009, 01:06:00 PM
Post by: blob_54 on October 11, 2009, 01:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Nothinbeter2do @ Oct 11 2009, 12:06 PM)
Can I just flash xenon_1921hack.bin? I found it on Xbins at /XBOX 360/development/free60/images/xenon_1921_hack-20090911.rar. Or do I have to build my own image? Because xenon_1921hack.bin is only 1.3mb and I thought you needed a 16mb file.
that's the right size... Just make
sure you make 2 backups of ur
NAND and make sure their good.... The hack file is
just a partial flash... Stated in the readme... That it
is correct... Just a partial flash
Post by: bluemimmosa on October 12, 2009, 12:45:00 AM
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Roshan>cd \
C:\>cd nandpro
C:\NandPro>nandpro.exe lpt: -r16 nana.bin
NandPro v2.0 by Tiros
Testing LPT device address:0378
Using LPT device at address:0378
FlashConfig:00012000
Starting Block:0x000000
Ending Block:0x0003FF
Press any key to begin reading nand
Error: 0 reading block 0
Error: 0 reading block 1
Error: 0 reading block 2
Error: 0 reading block 3
Error: 0 reading block 4
Error: 0 reading block 5
Error: 0 reading block 6
Error: 0 reading block 7
Error: 0 reading block 8
Error: 0 reading block 9
Error: 0 reading block A
Error: 0 reading block B
Error: 0 reading block C
Error: 0 reading block D
Error: 0 reading block E
^C0F
after putting diode....
C:\NandPro>nandpro.exe lpt: -r16 nana.bin
NandPro v2.0 by Tiros
Testing LPT device address:0378
Using LPT device at address:0378
FlashConfig:01198010
Starting Block:0x000000
Ending Block:0x0003FF
Press any key to begin reading nand
^C
C:\NandPro>nandpro.exe lpt: -r16 nana.bin
NandPro v2.0 by Tiros
Testing LPT device address:0378
Using LPT device at address:0378
FlashConfig:01198010
Starting Block:0x000000
Ending Block:0x0003FF
Press any key to begin reading nand
Error: 250 reading block 6C
Error: 250 reading block E1
Error: 250 reading block EF
Error: 250 reading block 1F1
Error: 250 reading block 2D4
Error: 250 reading block 2E9
Error: 380 reading block 384
Error: 3C0 reading block 385
Error: 300 reading block 386
Error: 300 reading block 387
Error: 300 reading block 388
Error: 300 reading block 389
Error: 300 reading block 38A
Error: 300 reading block 38B
Error: 300 reading block 38C
Error: 300 reading block 38D
Error: 300 reading block 38E
Error: 300 reading block 38F
Error: 300 reading block 390
Error: 300 reading block 391
Error: 300 reading block 392
Error: 300 reading block 393
Error: 300 reading block 394
Error: 300 reading block 395
Error: 300 reading block 396
Error: 350 reading block 397
Error: 300 reading block 398
Error: 300 reading block 399
Error: 300 reading block 39A
Error: 300 reading block 39B
Error: 300 reading block 39C
Error: 300 reading block 39D
Error: 300 reading block 39E
Error: 300 reading block 39F
Error: 300 reading block 3A0
Error: 300 reading block 3A1
Error: 300 reading block 3A2
Error: 300 reading block 3A3
Error: 300 reading block 3A4
Error: 300 reading block 3A5
Error: 300 reading block 3A6
Error: 300 reading block 3A7
Error: 300 reading block 3A8
Error: 300 reading block 3A9
Error: 300 reading block 3AA
Error: 300 reading block 3AB
Error: 300 reading block 3AC
Error: 300 reading block 3AD
Error: 300 reading block 3AE
Error: 300 reading block 3AF
Error: 300 reading block 3B0
Error: 300 reading block 3B1
Error: 300 reading block 3B2
Error: 300 reading block 3B3
Error: 300 reading block 3B4
Error: 300 reading block 3B5
Error: 300 reading block 3B6
Error: 300 reading block 3B7
Error: 300 reading block 3B8
Error: 300 reading block 3B9
Error: 300 reading block 3BA
Error: 300 reading block 3BB
Error: 300 reading block 3BC
Error: 300 reading block 3BD
Error: 300 reading block 3BE
Error: 300 reading block 3BF
Error: 300 reading block 3C0
Error: 300 reading block 3C1
Error: 300 reading block 3C2
Error: 300 reading block 3C3
Error: 300 reading block 3C4
Error: 300 reading block 3C5
Error: 300 reading block 3C6
Error: 300 reading block 3C7
Error: 300 reading block 3C8
Error: 300 reading block 3C9
Error: 300 reading block 3CA
Error: 300 reading block 3CB
Error: 300 reading block 3CC
Error: 300 reading block 3CD
Error: 300 reading block 3CE
Error: 300 reading block 3CF
Error: 300 reading block 3D0
Error: 300 reading block 3D1
Error: 300 reading block 3D2
Error: 300 reading block 3D3
Error: 300 reading block 3D4
Error: 300 reading block 3D5
Error: 300 reading block 3D6
Error: 300 reading block 3D7
Error: 300 reading block 3D8
Error: 300 reading block 3D9
Error: 300 reading block 3DA
Error: 300 reading block 3DB
Error: 300 reading block 3DC
Error: 300 reading block 3DD
Error: 300 reading block 3DE
Error: 300 reading block 3DF
Error: 300 reading block 3E0
Error: 300 reading block 3E1
Error: 300 reading block 3E2
Error: 300 reading block 3E3
Error: 300 reading block 3E4
Error: 300 reading block 3E5
Error: 300 reading block 3E6
Error: 300 reading block 3E7
Error: 300 reading block 3E8
Error: 300 reading block 3E9
Error: 300 reading block 3EA
Error: 300 reading block 3EB
Error: 300 reading block 3EC
Error: 300 reading block 3ED
Error: 300 reading block 3EE
Error: 300 reading block 3EF
Error: 300 reading block 3F0
Error: 300 reading block 3F1
Error: 300 reading block 3F2
Error: 300 reading block 3F3
Error: 300 reading block 3F4
Error: 300 reading block 3F5
Error: 300 reading block 3F6
Error: 300 reading block 3F7
Error: 300 reading block 3F8
Error: 300 reading block 3F9
Error: 300 reading block 3FA
Error: 300 reading block 3FB
Error: 300 reading block 3FC
Error: 300 reading block 3FD
Error: 300 reading block 3FE
Error: 300 reading block 3FF
C:\NandPro>
C:\NandPro>
what is this i cant do anything...
pls ghelp...
Post by: Antman1 on October 12, 2009, 04:19:00 AM
Post by: Nothinbeter2do on October 12, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
This post has been edited by Nothinbeter2do: Oct 12 2009, 08:56 PM
Post by: dog_seb on October 12, 2009, 05:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Aug 23 2009, 02:30 PM)
Hi- from the original post:
Straightforward enough - here's a link to the product / pinout:
http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-h2148.html
Ok, this is a table but looks confusing due to forum text layout - strip out the stuff we don't need and use the LPT pinout as a reference as well as the LPT mainboard pinout (http://www.olimex.com/dev/pdf/lpc-h2148-pins.pdf). Instead of wiring from the 360 board to the LPT plug, you're going from the 360 board to the USB device.
So replace :
Pin 1 on LPT plug with EXT1-3 on USB Device
Pin 11 on LPT plug with EXT1-6 on USB Device
Pin 16 on LPT plug with EXT2-1 on USB Device
Pin 18 on LPT plug with EXT1-26 on USB Device
Pin 14 on LPT plug with EXT1-7 on USB Device
Pin 2 on LPT plug with EXT1-5 on USB Device
Pin 17 on LPT plug with EXT2-2 on USB Device
So the wiring to the 360 mainboard is exactly the same. The 3x330ohm bridges won't change either since they're needed to fire up the Xell (short them out or remove them and you'll get error 79).
As above - your new device should be accessible via nandpro as an lpt device.
Hi all ,
I need mor information for this : Flash the .hex file to the LPC2148 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Where I find the .hex for the board lpc-h2148 ?
and the libusb ?
Thanks for help me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Dog_seb.
Post by: bluemimmosa on October 13, 2009, 12:13:00 AM
i have a xbox360 xenon.
i dumped its nand 4 times.
i calculated the crc and md5 hash of each .
the 1st dump was not identical to other three.
it means three were very good and identical to each other.
now i flashed the xell on to it (my cb version is 1902)
and error came across address 36A and continued to 3FF.
I pluged it out from the parallel port and hooked it up to a vga monitor and it didnt show up anything.
again i wrote the xell from begening and there were no error while writing but when i hooked it up and turned it on i got rrod (3 red light) after 20 to 30 seconds.)
i dont know what is wrong.
pls help me
now i am trying erasing the nand.
hope this works...
pls if u have any suggestions pls try to post it..
Post by: Grim187 on October 13, 2009, 01:17:00 AM
QUOTE(bluemimmosa @ Oct 12 2009, 11:13 PM)
turned it on i got rrod (3 red light)
whats the error code?
Post by: bluemimmosa on October 13, 2009, 04:01:00 AM
then flashed xell 1024x768
and got the cpukey.
extracted the keyvault and changed the offset at b8 from 02fe to 00ff and patched that kv to the nand and saved as nandmod.bin
wrote the nandmod.bin with nandpro
after finish writing took outthe jtag soldering .. (took out the 3 330 ohms resistor)
and started the xbox
gives e79
doesnt know what happened..
pls help.
Post by: bluemimmosa on October 14, 2009, 01:27:00 AM
QUOTE(bluemimmosa @ Oct 13 2009, 03:31 PM)
erased the nand
then flashed xell 1024x768
and got the cpukey.
extracted the keyvault and changed the offset at b8 from 02fe to 00ff and patched that kv to the nand and saved as nandmod.bin
wrote the nandmod.bin with nandpro
after finish writing took outthe jtag soldering .. (took out the 3 330 ohms resistor)
and started the xbox
gives e79
doesnt know what happened..
pls help.
opened the original nand with flashtool and patched the region from eu to us
saved the modfied nand.bin
and
erased the nand.
flashed the modfied nand
and voila....
xbox360 turning on and working...
and region change from eu to us sucessful..
thanks a lot for all...
Post by: tharindu.gamage on October 21, 2009, 12:52:00 PM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:36 PM)
I followed the guide by Tiros and this is just to make it easier for noobs. Thanks to TMBINC, TIROS, and who ever else made this possible, those that didn't want this to see the light of day and said it never would where you at now?
Download NandPro Use this for reading and writing the on board 360 NAND.
High Res Xenon LPT Flashing Diagram
Also be sure to check that your read is a valid bin. Read it twice just to be sure.
(IMG:http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8660/finishedt.jpg)
Hawk
Edit: If you encounter problems when using the LPT interface as shown above, please refer to this post.
Hey Mhawk.. i'm new to this site and i thought i'd ask u wats going wrong with my xbox. i've lost my dvd key and i wanted to recover it so i did your method. and wen i tried to flash the nand with da hack.bin to boot xell the xbox turns on and after about 20 secs gives me RROD with error code 0022. i then flashed back the backed up bin file to see if the box will boot properly but then nothing happens as in the xbox doesn't respond at all. doesnt even switch on and i flash the hack.bin it switches on but gives RROD. when i backed up the nand.bin they both were read without any errors. please help me. this is my console and i cant afford another one. please Mhawk.
Post by: kipper2k on October 31, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
QUOTE(Mhawk134 @ Aug 19 2009, 09:36 AM)
I followed the guide by Tiros and this is just to make it easier for noobs. Thanks to TMBINC, TIROS, and who ever else made this possible, those that didn't want this to see the light of day and said it never would where you at now?
Download NandPro Use this for reading and writing the on board 360 NAND.
High Res Xenon LPT Flashing Diagram
Also be sure to check that your read is a valid bin. Read it twice just to be sure.
(IMG:http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8660/finishedt.jpg)
Hawk
Edit: If you encounter problems when using the LPT interface as shown above, please refer to this post.
Post by: kipper2k on October 31, 2009, 02:29:00 PM
I have 4 working (boot to dashboard fine) 360's with no DVd Roms that i want to hopefully find the DVD key and the model of the DVD Rom so i can get them working again, they are the older dashoard versions...
Versions; 2868.0, 5759.0, 5787.0, and 4552.0
I do have a vga cable, and i was able to find all the files i need. Besides the 7 wires from the motherboard to the parallel connector, do any of ther points on the mortherboard need to go anywhere ?
Heres the pic
http://www.kipper2k.com/files/parallelconn.jpg
This post has been edited by RDC: Nov 6 2009, 04:09 AM
Post by: kipper2k on October 31, 2009, 06:06:00 PM
I have a question related to the actual Nand chip itself
Lets assume i dump a Nand chip from a 360 and save the Nand.bin file. I now take the update from M$ and upgrade the 360 to 8xxx which now means i cant get back into the Nand chip.
What happens if i remove the Nand chip from this 360 and replace it with a NAND chip from a broken pre 8xxx 360. I am assuming that i can now use the parallel connection to overwrite the new NAND chip with the original Nand.bin file. is this logical and correct ?
Also, can the Nand be programmed externally by using a programmer that supports these Eproms ?
Thanks
Post by: prenex on November 05, 2009, 12:17:00 PM
Tried on 2 computers... tried 7-8 times... SPP... ECP...
NandPro2 gives me always same error!
(IMG:http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4097/12615868.jpg)
Can I use this nand.bin safely?
Post by: niai on November 05, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
QUOTE(kipper2k @ Nov 1 2009, 12:06 AM)
I have a question related to the actual Nand chip itself
Lets assume i dump a Nand chip from a 360 and save the Nand.bin file. I now take the update from M$ and upgrade the 360 to 8xxx which now means i cant get back into the Nand chip.
What happens if i remove the Nand chip from this 360 and replace it with a NAND chip from a broken pre 8xxx 360. I am assuming that i can now use the parallel connection to overwrite the new NAND chip with the original Nand.bin file. is this logical and correct ?
Also, can the Nand be programmed externally by using a programmer that supports these Eproms ?
Thanks
the update dose make it so you cant read/write the nand it updates the bootloader to not let the kk exploit kernels run ie the save as the new xell kernel
and can some one remove that unnecessarily big pic its really annoying
Post by: niai on November 06, 2009, 04:23:00 AM
QUOTE(niai @ Nov 6 2009, 02:34 AM)
the update dose make it so you cant read/write the nand it updates the bootloader to not let the kk exploit kernels run ie the save as the new xell kernel
and can some one remove that unnecessarily big pic its really annoying
the update doesn't make it so you cant read/write the nand it updates the bootloader to not let the kk exploit kernels run ie the same as the new xell kernel
sorry bout the typo
This post has been edited by niai: Nov 6 2009, 12:25 PM
Post by: [email protected] on November 06, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
Post by: superdave16 on November 07, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Post by: mialex on November 08, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
I have read this thread couple of times already but still have got a solution yet.
1. i dump the nand 3x
2. compare it and it look all good
3. i flash with xell on it (all 50 blocks got flash without any error)
4. disconnect jtag to computer, plug vga cable in and power on didn't get anything on the screen.
any suggestion ?
Post by: Murteira_Nabo on November 10, 2009, 03:18:00 AM
Post by: Zheez on November 10, 2009, 03:44:00 AM
Post by: ccfman2004 on November 10, 2009, 02:04:00 PM
I have a Japer Board that does not have the extra 256 or 512MB storage.
This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Nov 10 2009, 10:05 PM
Post by: DarkEvilKen on November 10, 2009, 11:06:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Nov 10 2009, 10:04 PM)
How can I dump the Nand with a USB connector as my computer does not have an LPT printer port?
I have a Japer Board that does not have the extra 256 or 512MB storage.
I too want to find out. The JTAG for the Jasper is out.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=695658
but I cannot find the instruction as to backing up the Jasper NAND. Would it be similar to the Xenon?
Post by: majinsoftware on November 10, 2009, 11:13:00 PM
Post by: djstyles97 on November 16, 2009, 12:48:00 AM
Post by: bedojunkmail on November 16, 2009, 07:29:00 AM
QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Nov 11 2009, 06:13 AM)
exactly the same.
I believe I read that the 16MB nand takes about a half hour to dump. Does that mean the 256MB will take 8 hours using LPT?
Post by: mialex on November 17, 2009, 02:17:00 PM
Post by: xboxbman on November 17, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
QUOTE(superdave16 @ Nov 7 2009, 11:54 PM)
Ok so i did my xenon bored, got xell with dhcp off of xbins on to my nand. i got my offset numbers and managed to boot gentoo livecd xenon. anyways im wondering if i can install ubuntu to my 360 harddrive using tftp because xell says looking for boot files off of /tftp/xenon. Im running ubuntu anyone expierenced with network booting?
try this:
https://help.ubuntu....lation/LocalNet
i'm gonna try it tonite, hopefully
Post by: doveman007 on November 17, 2009, 08:39:00 PM
My original plan was to use a 15-pin D-Sub socket fixed to the back of the case, with a 15-pin plug joined to the end of the LPT cable, but I'm put off by having to cut a hole to mount the socket, which would require removing the motherboard to ensure I don't short anything with metal filings.
What I'm planning on doing now is using a PS/2 socket, which has 6 pins plus the outer metal body so making the required 7 connections, wired to the motherboard and then a PS/2 plug on the end of the LPT cable. This is a lot simpler as there's a hole in the back of the case through which I can poke the cable attached to the PS/2 socket (I butchered an extension cable so I've got two molded connectors each with a short length of cable attached), leaving the socket outside the case.
My only concern is whether it's safe to have the outer metal body, which will be connected to GND (J1D2.6 or J2B1.12), exposed. I can always wrap a bit of insulating tape around it when it's not in use, but it would be good to know whether that's necessary or not.
Post by: jqwest on November 19, 2009, 09:48:00 AM
Post by: dante1 on November 20, 2009, 06:17:00 AM
I dumped my NAND and got 1 error 250 bad block.
What is the next step I need to do with this NAND.bin file?
My console is not banned and the kernel is at 8507.
I don't need the DVDkey as I have a back up.
Please let me know what I need to do with this file or point me to a guide.
Thanks,
Dante1
Post by: niai on November 20, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
Post by: dante1 on November 20, 2009, 08:54:00 AM
QUOTE(niai @ Nov 20 2009, 08:43 AM)
you do know you cant run xell with a 8xxx kernel
No I didn't.
So what can I do with the NAND Dump?
I read that if my console gets banned and cripples my HD, I can flash back and it will uncripple my HDD.
Is this true?
Thanks
Post by: addies on November 22, 2009, 06:05:00 PM
So I'm in the process of making the LPT cable with an old printer cable I had laying around. I've just finished continuity testing all the wires inside, but I have one question. It seems that the only wire that is connected to pin #18 is also connected to pins #19 - #25. Will this pose an issue with the cable? Or will it be fine?
Thanks,
Addies
Post by: hawkeye06 on November 23, 2009, 05:14:00 PM
So I just order this:http://www.allelectr...N-MALE/-/1.html
Thanks again!
Post by: timhck on November 24, 2009, 11:40:00 AM
p.s Sorry about bad english....
Post by: kiwimods on November 25, 2009, 07:11:00 AM
QUOTE(timhck @ Nov 25 2009, 07:40 AM)
I want to ask you, if i do something wrong with soldering, there is any case to broke my console.
p.s Sorry about bad english....
Of course you could
Post by: Bukmop on November 25, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
QUOTE
I'm guessing my LPT cable is too long at 170cm
I agree - its too long. My cable is 40 cm. Try such lenght. And its better if all wires are twisted together (like a cable for LAN Ethernet).
Post by: doveman007 on November 25, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
I've checked the cable but something's obviously not right. 
80cm is about the shortest that I can use and allow me to get from the back of the PC to the Xbox in front, but if that's still too long I'll have to rearrange my PC so that I can put the xbox on top or something.
Post by: ccfman2004 on November 25, 2009, 10:31:00 PM
Is there a specific wattage I should get or it does not matter.
Post by: doveman007 on November 26, 2009, 07:01:00 PM
Installing a text printer driver was the final step to get me a dump with 0 bad pages
Post by: wolrahnaes on November 27, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
Some have also pointed at this one: http://www.sparkfun....products_id=714 but I'd much rather buy the one I linked first since it supports more microcontrollers than just the LPC21xx series.
Post by: Redsquirrel on November 28, 2009, 12:27:00 PM
Come home, tried it on the LPT plug but didnt work, but soldered direct to motherboard and its dumping fine.
Have got to go out now, so hopefully will have dumped the first one and ill get the second to dump later and hopefully finish off tommorrow =)
edit: I started getting errors at blocks 240?
I cancelled and will retry later/tommorrow.
any ideas?
cheers
Post by: Aldanga on November 28, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: Aldanga on November 28, 2009, 06:45:00 PM
I managed to get it to stick on one board (thankfully), but I'm glad I won't have to use that point again. It seems I can use any ground point on the 360 instead of J1D1.6 or J2B1.12.
My life just got a whole lot easier.
Post by: Aldanga on November 29, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
I don't know if that cable is too long. Mine wasn't more than a foot long, so I can't comment on how long is too long.
I haven't yet done my Falcon board, so I don't have any experience on potential issues with those points. However, I will try to help if I can. Are any of your wires touching each other? and is one of the ground points correctly placed? are your resistors and diode oriented correctly?
Post by: Folklore on November 29, 2009, 02:12:00 PM
Everything looks fine, diode is facing the mobo, no shorts.
Thanks for your reply, though!
Also, should i treat a Jasper the same way as a Xenon when reading the NAND?
Post by: Aldanga on November 29, 2009, 02:19:00 PM
Did you run port95nt.exe before running NandPro? That's the last thing I've got in terms of what could be causing the problem.
Post by: Folklore on November 29, 2009, 02:44:00 PM
Even installed some weird usb driver manually when all else failed, made no difference.
Post by: Aldanga on November 29, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on November 29, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
I bought 1/4 watt 100 ohm resistors. Will this be ok?
Post by: mialex on November 29, 2009, 05:19:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on November 29, 2009, 05:22:00 PM
QUOTE(mialex @ Nov 30 2009, 01:19 AM)
It's possible to boot run XELL and get the CPU KEY if the system has RROD with 0102 code ?
Do you know what your dashboard version was at?
If it was 84xx or higher than absolutely not.
Post by: Aldanga on November 29, 2009, 06:04:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Nov 29 2009, 04:57 PM)
Still waiting on what wattage everyone is using for the resistors.
I bought 1/4 watt 100 ohm resistors. Will this be ok?
1/4W is the arbitrary "standard," at least if memory serves me correctly. I used 1/2 watt 100 ohm resistors and they work just fine.
So, yes. That will be OK.
Post by: SoloStyl on November 30, 2009, 12:20:00 AM
What other other tools can I use to Verify the NANDs? HEX WorkShop shows a few "Insertion", Deletions,Etc.
I just dont want to Dump and Flash a NAND if it isnt 100% complete. Hex shows missing or extra bits in every dump.
Trying to get HDD Un-Banned for now, Linux later when we have a "FALCON_hack.bin"
I have dumped 5 different NANDs, File Compared in HEX WorkShop, and each is different. Event though I get NO errors in DOS Prompt from NandPro 2.
3x NAND Dumps with NO VGA cable plugged in, NO DVD installed, so just PLAIN Falcon Board powered by brick
2x NAND Dumps WITH VGA cable plugged in, NO DVD installed, so just PLAIN Falcon Board powered by brick
i dont thing VGA Cable isn't needed to Dump the NAND, but just in case I tried both.
This post has been edited by SoloStyl: Nov 30 2009, 08:22 AM
Post by: Aldanga on November 30, 2009, 12:53:00 AM
Forgive me if I give really basic suggestions of what to check, but even the best overlook the small things. I'd guess your connections are shorting out or something simple along those lines. Make sure none of your wires or resistors are touching and that the soldered points are not overlapping.
Are you using a diode on J1D2.4? If not, go ahead and use a diode and see if your NANDs match after that.
If all of these things are good, I'd recommend checking your LPT connection on the PC you're using. Make sure the cable is plugged in tightly and correctly.
If none of these suggestions changes anything, I'd recommend switching PCs and seeing if that gives you different results.
The VGA cable should not affect your NAND dumps in any way. The 360 isn't powered on during the operation so an unplugged or plugged VGA cable holds no sway over anything.
As for Linux: If your box is crippled, it's been updated with the Summer '09 Update which closed the necessary exploits for running XeLL and you won't be able to run XeLL or Linux on it... for now, at least.
Post by: SoloStyl on November 30, 2009, 01:50:00 AM
Yes, i have the Diode( 1N914 Black strip to 360 MoBo), 5x 100ohm 1/4 WATT res. on the 25p LPT. Cable length is about 12-16 inches.
The 5 Dumps i took were in ECP+EPP mode, my PC doesnt have SPP mode.
making 2 more dumps now in LPT Bi-Directional Mode thru the BIOS Settings on PC
Also, 360 Flash tool cant be used to verify my NANDs, it will only do .RAW files. Anything else i can use to verify the NANDs?
Thanks
This post has been edited by SoloStyl: Nov 30 2009, 09:54 AM
Post by: mialex on November 30, 2009, 02:44:00 AM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Nov 30 2009, 01:22 AM)
Do you know what your dashboard version was at?
If it was 84xx or higher than absolutely not.
It been collecting dust for at least 6 months. I flash xell onto it and when turn on it giving me 3 RROD (i have the 3 resistors in the correct pins) error code is 0102.
I remember when it died on me i tried the heat gun method couldn't get it back to live. Now i wanted to get the key vault from there and patch into my banned console but can't get the cpu key.
Post by: doveman007 on November 30, 2009, 03:32:00 AM
Try that if you haven't already and make sure you've deleted any other already installed printers
Post by: bennybullfrog on December 01, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
I have tried EVERYTHING and I just can't get nandpro to detect my flash controller.
I have tested my connections over and over from the underside of the board to the pins on the lpt plug. I have tried with resistors and without, with a diode on the motherboard and without. I have tried 3 PCs including a P4 with a 3.3v lpt and an old P3 laptop.
No matter what I do nandpro doesn't offer a whimper, it always says that it can't detect the flash controller.
I am able to switch on the 360 while it's connected up and if I run nandpro the 360 switches off while trying to detect the lpt (is this normal)
Can anyone help please? I've been messing with this for the last 3 days and it's driving me insane (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Do you think there is something wrong with my 360 that is stopping me from reading the nand? The 360 still functions as normal when I use it for games, etc
For the record I have tried every lpt in every mode (spp, ecp, epp, normal, bidirectional)
I have installed DLPortIO and tried in Windows 7 and Windows XP 32Bit.
I have a Falcon, if that makes any difference. I am only trying to read the nand and not do the jtag as my box has been updated since Summer 09.
This post has been edited by bennybullfrog: Dec 1 2009, 03:06 PM
Post by: bennybullfrog on December 02, 2009, 01:40:00 AM
Post by: Aldanga on December 02, 2009, 07:45:00 AM
Post by: ccfman2004 on December 02, 2009, 08:20:00 AM
I found it much easier to use to bottom of the motherboard as it had pads I could easily solder too. Since they were the same points as the top (used a continuity meter to make sure) I did not see a problem.
I will report back when I am either done or have problems.
I am using a 10+ year old computer with Windows 98 on it. Seems to read the nand with no problem.
Post by: bennybullfrog on December 02, 2009, 02:03:00 PM
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Dec 3 2009, 01:45 AM)
Why have you been using the bottom of the board instead of the top?
I didn't solder to the bottom, I tested for continuity from the bottom as an extra check after already testing from my top solder points. Tried some more last night and nandpro always goes through looking for the flash controller on the various lpt addresses and never finds it. Really frustrating.
This post has been edited by bennybullfrog: Dec 2 2009, 10:04 PM
Post by: Aldanga on December 03, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
QUOTE(bennybullfrog @ Dec 2 2009, 03:03 PM)
I didn't solder to the bottom, I tested for continuity from the bottom as an extra check after already testing from my top solder points. Tried some more last night and nandpro always goes through looking for the flash controller on the various lpt addresses and never finds it. Really frustrating.
Ah, I see. Seems I misread. The late night issues strike again!
Have you tried to install a printer driver? Is your parallel plug any good? That is to say, does it make contact with the pins on the motherboard? I've had issues with mine I salvaged because it's slightly bent. If ever NandPro doesn't find the flash controller it's been because the DB25 plug wasn't making good contact. After some adjustments it always reads the flash controller just fine. (I've had some issues with bad reads, but those have all been rectified with some ingenuity.)
Post by: bennybullfrog on December 03, 2009, 01:58:00 AM
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Dec 3 2009, 06:26 PM)
Ah, I see. Seems I misread. The late night issues strike again! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Have you tried to install a printer driver? Is your parallel plug any good? That is to say, does it make contact with the pins on the motherboard? I've had issues with mine I salvaged because it's slightly bent. If ever NandPro doesn't find the flash controller it's been because the DB25 plug wasn't making good contact. After some adjustments it always reads the flash controller just fine. (I've had some issues with bad reads, but those have all been rectified with some ingenuity.)
I haven't tried to install a printer driver but would it help?
I tried 3 different PCs so I'd be surprised if they all had bad lpt ports (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I tested the voltages coming from pins 2 - 9 and on one PC it was 4.7v and another was 3.3v.
I have tried 2 different lpt plugs and I also test voltages coming from the lpt port at the solder points on the back of the plug so I assume it is making good contact.
I am really out of ideas. Unless there is an issue with my switching diode, is it easy to blow these things? Maybe I should try another.
Post by: FinsternIRL on December 03, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
Post by: Aldanga on December 03, 2009, 11:23:00 AM
QUOTE(bennybullfrog @ Dec 3 2009, 02:58 AM)
I haven't tried to install a printer driver but would it help?
I tried 3 different PCs so I'd be surprised if they all had bad lpt ports
I tested the voltages coming from pins 2 - 9 and on one PC it was 4.7v and another was 3.3v.
I have tried 2 different lpt plugs and I also test voltages coming from the lpt port at the solder points on the back of the plug so I assume it is making good contact.
I am really out of ideas. Unless there is an issue with my switching diode, is it easy to blow these things? Maybe I should try another.
I haven't had issues and had to install the driver, but people have said installing the driver helped with bad block checks. So it could possibly help NandPro detect the flash controller.
I only have two ideas of what your problem could be: (1) the pins on your DB25 coming from your 360 are bent and not making good connections to the PC (as has happened to me) or (2) you've soldered the wrong pins/points on your motherboard or have resistors/diodes of the wrong type or on the wrong connections. That's all I've got. I can't imagine anything else could cause it.
Could you take some pics of your setup, including the pins of the DB25 plug you're using and a shot showing the wires running from that to the motherboard, and post them on here? That would for sure rule out any hardware errors if there are none.
Post by: chrisdot on December 03, 2009, 02:19:00 PM
Post by: xboxchan on December 05, 2009, 12:32:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: spider861 on December 05, 2009, 08:32:00 PM
This post has been edited by spider861: Dec 6 2009, 04:35 AM
Post by: leorimolo on December 06, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
Also right now I have the same error "cannot detect flash controler" I suck at soldering but all my joints seem fine, I shortend my cable, messed with bios settings nothing works its driving me crazy.
This is a RROD mobo, but I want to see if I can salvage the kv..
Post by: p3pp8 on December 06, 2009, 12:40:00 PM
Thanx in advance!
-P
Post by: leorimolo on December 06, 2009, 12:53:00 PM
Edit, I think its going to work this time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) it read them out perfectly
This post has been edited by leorimolo: Dec 6 2009, 08:56 PM
Post by: spider861 on December 06, 2009, 04:33:00 PM
QUOTE(leorimolo @ Dec 6 2009, 08:01 PM)
If it boots to the dashoboard your fine
Also right now I have the same error "cannot detect flash controler" I suck at soldering but all my joints seem fine, I shortend my cable, messed with bios settings nothing works its driving me crazy.
This is a RROD mobo, but I want to see if I can salvage the kv..
Thanks for the info. Ill keep on messing with it.
Post by: jqwest on December 08, 2009, 11:51:00 PM
Post by: kainthegreat on December 11, 2009, 04:58:00 PM
Post by: slimgrip on December 21, 2009, 04:21:00 AM
QUOTE(kainthegreat @ Dec 11 2009, 11:58 PM)
hi, i recently got all my soders done and i hooked up everything but i have an issue with nandpro, for some reason when i execute the program the dos screen only shows up for hardly a sec before disappearing, did i do something wrong with my sodering or hooking up my 360?
If yr executing the nandpro2.exe by double clicking it you will get that problem.
You need to open a CMD prompt window as specified in the Original post in this thread.
Post by: chase on December 22, 2009, 08:45:00 PM
i got the LPC-H218 and this SERIAL PROGRAMMER
i cant program it with the hex file..
i made the bridge wire.. i connected the other 4 wires..
i cant get flash magic to read device signature with or without the usb connected
it gives me autobaud error..
any help would be greatly appreciated.. thanks
This post has been edited by chase: Dec 23 2009, 04:46 AM
Post by: Martinchris23 on December 23, 2009, 12:28:00 AM
QUOTE(chase @ Dec 23 2009, 03:45 AM)
HEY..
i got the LPC-H218 and this SERIAL PROGRAMMER
i cant program it with the hex file..
i made the bridge wire.. i connected the other 4 wires..
i cant get flash magic to read device signature with or without the usb connected
it gives me autobaud error..
any help would be greatly appreciated.. thanks
1. Make sure you have the clock setting value from the crystal.
2. Try the Rx and Tx round the other way.
Failing all of that, I wrote a guide on how to do this with a cheap JTAG Wiggler clone without all the messing around of soldering bridges:
http://forums.xbox-s...t...63&t=699584
Post by: sid1747 on December 23, 2009, 07:54:00 PM
ive been following this guide, but i noticed that its a few months old and theres a couple others out there with different diodes and stuff, which i dont know nothing about to begin with.
anyway. i got just about everything wired up, but i thought i read somewhere i needed a switching diode? i dont see any in this diagram. but i bought them so i remember somthing saying i needed them.
anyway is this guide still good? or should i be following a more up too date one? do i need these switching diodes? if so where do they go?
im not very experienced im just matching the colored dots in the picture.
thanks
SiD
Post by: BrickSquad on December 24, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
QUOTE(sid1747 @ Dec 24 2009, 03:54 AM)
anyway. i got just about everything wired up, but i thought i read somewhere i needed a switching diode? i dont see any in this diagram. but i bought them so i remember somthing saying i needed them.
i was wondering the same thing, im thinking about ripping into it tomorrow so please lets get an update!
Post by: drogy on December 26, 2009, 07:29:00 AM
Post by: hazed69 on December 26, 2009, 10:17:00 PM
Post by: Antman1 on December 27, 2009, 03:58:00 AM
Post by: hazed69 on December 27, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
ive done everything listed and still i cant get it to work in dos
i type C: nandpro20 nandpro.exe lpt: -r16 nandbackup1.bin
it does nothing ive check my wires make sure they are making contact
i checked bois setting for spp thats good but im stuck
any help would be great thanks
i do have a xenon board no hdmi and dash of 7373 i belive
Post by: hazed69 on December 27, 2009, 03:28:00 PM
needed to change the dir to c:\
i was showing c:\documennts~1\xbox
now its c:\
c:\nandpro lpt: -r16 nand1.bin
it shows me that the the test its doing
at the end it says "could not detect a flash controller"?
what am i doing wrong?
Post by: brando56894 on December 27, 2009, 06:17:00 PM
Post by: hazed69 on December 27, 2009, 09:13:00 PM
100 ohms
and did a lil resoldering again make sure the were connected
Now once i made sure my BIn file i just got are exactly alike
i can go ahead and flash my drive with the hacked.bin i just got right ?
Post by: hazed69 on December 27, 2009, 10:19:00 PM
i flashed it GOOD
but now e79 error 1033
dammit so close and the door closes on me
anyone can help with this?
Post by: Antman1 on December 28, 2009, 04:04:00 AM
Post by: hazed69 on December 28, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
Post by: thehump2001 on January 05, 2010, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: foolkiller on January 06, 2010, 05:45:00 AM
QUOTE(thehump2001 @ Jan 5 2010, 08:36 PM)
Sorry don'think so.
Post by: CamaroGuy on January 07, 2010, 08:25:00 PM
Post by: craz3d on January 07, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
Post by: CamaroGuy on January 07, 2010, 08:31:00 PM
QUOTE(craz3d @ Jan 7 2010, 10:28 PM)
Wire gauge does matter. A lot of people recommend 30 gauge, but I personally used the individual braided wires from a length of CAT-5E cable. There are 4 twisted pairs of 24 gauge wire inside, which leaves you with one extra wire as a spare in case you mess up. 24 gauge is slightly thicker than 30 but you can still solder the points without issue.
fantastic thanks alot man i just happen to have a spool of 30 gauge wire from installing my wii modchip so i'm gonna do this tonight so I can uncripple my banned box and then homebrew one of my other RROD repairs that haven't been online in almost 2 years
Post by: Garyfez on January 09, 2010, 03:07:00 PM
I shortened the cable to about 8 inches now i can't get correct flashconfig on other pc i get correct flashconfig but errors reading every block
This post has been edited by Garyfez: Jan 9 2010, 11:13 PM
Post by: mioipe on January 10, 2010, 08:23:00 AM
and in CMD or DOS is 276,883
This size is right?
Thanks
Post by: jeffrey92 on January 10, 2010, 01:56:00 PM
when I connect it to my computer, it is able to find the flash controller, but every block gives errors. Is this characteristic of a jtag problem, or a wiring problem with the lpt cable? I messed up a pad on the top of the board where all the lpt wires go, can I used the bottom?
This post has been edited by jeffrey92: Jan 10 2010, 09:59 PM
Post by: Garyfez on January 11, 2010, 05:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Garyfez @ Jan 10 2010, 12:07 AM)
Hi I have followed the tutorial got my nand to read but i dumped the nand about 50 times and can't get any match I've even just dumped the key vault 10 times and can't get that to match any ideas on what i'm doing wrong.
I shortened the cable to about 8 inches now i can't get correct flashconfig on other pc i get correct flashconfig but errors reading every block
Got it sorted my wire was too long shortened it to 3 inch and got 2 good dumps straight off now running XBReboot
Post by: lcollier93 on January 21, 2010, 09:31:00 PM
Post by: craz3d on January 21, 2010, 10:57:00 PM
Post by: luckycool on March 02, 2010, 04:27:00 PM
i m new to this forum . so forgive neglegence ..thnx
i have managed to read the nand from my xbox 360 with LPT .. and i read it twice they both had the same size
and size of hacked.bin was also equal to my read nand..
after i write the hacked nand i turned it on on vga cable and read the cpu keys.. when i put it in the flashtool to retrieve the drive key it gave me message invalid key . then i flased it back with original nand.bin now the xbox360 is totally irresponsive. and wont even turn on . .. pls guide me right direction thnx alot guys
Post by: luckycool on March 03, 2010, 06:15:00 AM
Post by: thwack on March 03, 2010, 06:59:00 AM
QUOTE(luckycool @ Mar 3 2010, 01:15 PM)
guys im waiting so anxiously for your replies thnx
So you managed to get Xell to boot to get your CPU key?
If not, then you're having write problems, and possibly read one's as well. Did you open your NAND in Degraded? If so did it have any errors?
Post by: luckycool on March 03, 2010, 07:31:00 AM
and i made two original nand backups ..ie read it twice..the size is same..
and there was no error in reading it..
and writing is flawless too.. no errors. but xbox 360 is irresponsive.. i
dont know what u mean by open in degraded
Post by: Ranger72 on March 03, 2010, 07:39:00 AM
QUOTE(luckycool @ Mar 3 2010, 08:15 AM)
guys im waiting so anxiously for your replies thnx
Using the "Report this post to a moderator" button is NOT a way to get someone to answer your question. This is only for people who notice a post in violation of the sites policies. Make sure this does not happen again.
Post by: thwack on March 03, 2010, 07:42:00 AM
QUOTE(luckycool @ Mar 3 2010, 02:31 PM)
yes i did manage to boot thhe xell and got cpu keys now the writing back the original nand is flawless i opened the nand in notepad it says microsoft etc
and i made two original nand backups ..ie read it twice..the size is same..
and there was no error in reading it..
and writing is flawless too.. no errors. but xbox 360 is irresponsive.. i
dont know what u mean by open in degraded
and i made two original nand backups ..ie read it twice..the size is same..
and there was no error in reading it..
and writing is flawless too.. no errors. but xbox 360 is irresponsive.. i
dont know what u mean by open in degraded
Degraded is a program now primarily used by people to check their NAND dumps. You will find it in the usual places - have a look in my sig for a guide to use it. Post your results.
Post by: luckycool on March 03, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Mar 3 2010, 03:39 PM)
Using the "Report this post to a moderator" button is NOT a way to get someone to answer your question. This is only for people who notice a post in violation of the sites policies. Make sure this does not happen again.
Sorry mate i think i pressed the wrong button (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: luckycool on March 03, 2010, 09:04:00 AM
i m getting
(IMG:http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/360/19710322.gif)
Post by: thwack on March 03, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
And by the looks of the other piccies you sent me, they're not reallocated to the end of the NAND.You'll need to rebuild your NAND from scratch - have you ust flashed Xell over, or have you written over the entire NAND on the 360? If you have written over the entire NAND you're going to have to find a donor KV with CPU key to repair.
If you haven't written over the lot, then use Louuky's Xellous tut to repair.
Post by: luckycool on March 03, 2010, 04:10:00 PM
i have read 16 mb nand from xbox360 and write xenon_hack.bin..
using command
NandPro lpt: -r16 nand.bin
NandPro lpt: -w16 xenon_hack.bin
my two orginal backups and xenon_hack.bin had the same size .. so i carried on writing the hacked bin..
thanx
Post by: luckycool on March 03, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(thwack @ Mar 3 2010, 05:44 PM)
You've got multiple bad blocks in your NAND
And by the looks of the other piccies you sent me, they're not reallocated to the end of the NAND.You'll need to rebuild your NAND from scratch - have you ust flashed Xell over, or have you written over the entire NAND on the 360? If you have written over the entire NAND you're going to have to find a donor KV with CPU key to repair.
If you haven't written over the lot, then use Louuky's Xellous tut to repair.
i cant find louuky's xellous tut.. pls guide me thanx
Post by: cRaCKwHoRe on March 04, 2010, 05:45:00 AM
QUOTE(luckycool @ Mar 4 2010, 12:23 AM)
i cant find louuky's xellous tut.. pls guide me thanx
Well it took me about 2 seconds to get it... look next time
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=703757
Post by: luckycool on March 04, 2010, 08:33:00 AM
QUOTE(cRaCKwHoRe @ Mar 4 2010, 12:45 PM)
Thanks for point me in this direction mate.i think i have a little bit more problem..i have made a backup which wasnt valid .. and then i write xeon_hack.bin now i need to write valid nand so i can make my xbox360 work again..
Post by: luckycool on March 04, 2010, 09:18:00 AM
QUOTE(thwack @ Mar 3 2010, 05:44 PM)
If you have written over the entire NAND you're going to have to find a donor KV with CPU key to repair.
i cant get this in my head mate .. is there any instruction for this ?
Post by: cRaCKwHoRe on March 04, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
Sorry, I don't mean to bash you but c'mon, use your head. Always have a backup. Now you're sorely out of luck unless you can find someone willing to give you a dump of their NAND that is from a matching model (Xenon, Falcon, etc) as well as matching CB. Do you know what your CB was?
Post by: luckycool on March 04, 2010, 11:40:00 AM
QUOTE(cRaCKwHoRe @ Mar 4 2010, 05:28 PM)
Let me get this right- you made a backup of your NAND, found that it wasn't valid, and then proceeded to flash over your current NAND anyway? ... And now it doesn't work so you want to restore from, oh wait, no backup?
Sorry, I don't mean to bash you but c'mon, use your head. Always have a backup. Now you're sorely out of luck unless you can find someone willing to give you a dump of their NAND that is from a matching model (Xenon, Falcon, etc) as well as matching CB. Do you know what your CB was?
Yeam man lols what do you expect from a noobie.....:'( i did make a blunder ..i dint use degraded to check if my back was valid..any way my CB version is 1903 LDV0 i read it from degraded..
i checked the size of my readed nand with two dumps my mistake should have checked with degraded..now i got to read from a different xboxb 360 right
well i m not giving up i got few broken xbobxes will try my luck with them
cheers
Post by: jc33777 on April 13, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
what are my options now? i just want to be able to install games on my hdd again.
Post by: Sindyrello on September 07, 2010, 01:15:00 PM
Any help pls!
Post by: oztony on May 14, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
NandPro v2.0b by Tiros
Testing LPT device address:0378
FlashConfig:21221421
Using LPT device at address:0378
Starting Block:0x000000
Ending Block:0x0003FF
Writing
File: Xell.bin FileLen:14a000 Blocks:50
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 0
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 1
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 2
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 3
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 4
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 5
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 6
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 7
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 8
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block 9
Error:FFFFFFFE Programming block A
I have the original nand but not the cpu key just a couple of quick questions im using this guide here
How to do the JTAG Hack/Dump NAND/Xell - Se7enSins Forums http://www.se7ensins...kdump-nandxell/
But this guide here shows 3 330 ohm resistors
Do in need the 330 ohm resistors? also on my m/ board J2D2 4 and 7 has a resistor not a jumper wire do I need to bridge out the resistor? Note had to install diode to recognize flash controller and remove 100 ohm resistors.
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks Tony
Post by: oztony on May 15, 2011, 07:48:00 PM
Cheers Tony
Post by: redm1 on October 03, 2011, 10:55:00 AM