Post by: Astrum on October 18, 2008, 04:12:00 AM
If I can write a python script for X.B.M.C. to emulate X-BOX LIVE, I could then connect one end of an RJ-45 to an original X-BOX and the other end to the X-BOX 360, from there you can connect to 'X-BOX LIVE' from the X-BOX 360, but the python script running on X.B.M.C. will emulate the X-BOX Live, from there I could insert a 360 game or 360 content into the original X-BOX disc drive and rip it to its Hard Drive, thereby effectively transferring a signed X-BOX 360 game to the X-BOX 360's Hard Drive (or content).
You could emulate X-BOX Live by grabbing the corresponding DNS/IP of X-BOX Live's server(s) and creating a python script around these; it doesn't even need to be an original X-BOX as it could be a PC and a C++ script as the emulator.
If anyone would like to help with the script or investigate this further please PM me, respond here, or both.
This post has been edited by Astrum: Oct 18 2008, 11:13 AM
Post by: Astrum on October 18, 2008, 06:59:00 AM
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Post by: No_Name on October 18, 2008, 10:58:00 AM
Post by: Icedevil on October 21, 2008, 04:23:00 PM
Post by: Arakon on October 23, 2008, 12:24:00 AM
Post by: Guessswho on October 23, 2008, 07:48:00 AM
Post by: Astrum on October 27, 2008, 06:03:00 AM
QUOTE(Arakon @ Oct 23 2008, 07:24 AM) 
oh, and while you're writing an xbox live emulator and cracking the encryption of the datastream, why don't you crack the 2048 bit signature too? I mean, only if you have 5 minutes of time on the side. with python.
What.. you've never heard of brute-forcing a hash with a hash cracking CPU? It would probably only take about a week and I am going to try it as soon as I get mine in the mail.
Joking about the ordering of it, actually I don't even know if it will be hashed at all; how would I get the string I wonder? Could I use assembly and look through the dashboard? There might be a simpler way (I admit my programming skills are low, but maybe it would work like this?):Disassemble a Dashboard update, get string (if there is one).
(if there is a hash, use a cracker CPU to brute-force it (they cost like $25.00).
Create a modified dashboard version > latest (burn it with a game iso replaced with modified dashboard)
Inject the disc into the xbox 360.
The xbox will accept the disc with the proper hash and request to update the dashboard with the new dashboard on the disc.
The dashboard will then have the capability to connect to a live emulator with the 'content' item(s).
or
scenario two:
Connect the xbox 360 HDD directly to a sata port on a machine that has 'the' 'live emulator' (which could be written in C++, assembly, else?) and transfer the 'content' item(s) that way.
Maybe there is a simpler way?
Just throwing ideas in the pot, maybe they're no good because I am basing them off of my basic programming knowledge or maybe they do have some plausibility.
- Astrum
Post by: torne on October 27, 2008, 12:33:00 PM
Post by: No_Name on October 27, 2008, 03:39:00 PM
I would love to live in the same world as you do.
Seriously... a $25 chip to crack a key designed to be resistant to brute force attacks?
Give it up, what your talking about sounds like something from a Hollywood script.
My sig says it all.
Post by: Arakon on October 27, 2008, 04:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Astrum @ Oct 27 2008, 01:39 PM)
What.. you've never heard of brute-forcing a hash with a hash cracking CPU? It would probably only take about a week and I am going to try it as soon as I get mine in the mail.
Joking about the ordering of it, actually I don't even know if it will be hashed at all; how would I get the string I wonder? Could I use assembly and look through the dashboard? There might be a simpler way (I admit my programming skills are low, but maybe it would work like this?):Disassemble a Dashboard update, get string (if there is one).
(if there is a hash, use a cracker CPU to brute-force it (they cost like $25.00).
Create a modified dashboard version > latest (burn it with a game iso replaced with modified dashboard)
Inject the disc into the xbox 360.
The xbox will accept the disc with the proper hash and request to update the dashboard with the new dashboard on the disc.
The dashboard will then have the capability to connect to a live emulator with the 'content' item(s).
or
scenario two:
Connect the xbox 360 HDD directly to a sata port on a machine that has 'the' 'live emulator' (which could be written in C++, assembly, else?) and transfer the 'content' item(s) that way.
Maybe there is a simpler way?
Just throwing ideas in the pot, maybe they're no good because I am basing them off of my basic programming knowledge or maybe they do have some plausibility.
- Astrum
FYI, using all the computers on this planet to bruteforce that kind of encryption would still take thousands of years.
as for your other ideas, not possible. again, due to the signature.
Post by: Astrum on October 27, 2008, 07:30:00 PM
What about the 360 development kit microsuck has? Surely they must give a development kit to developers? If I/we could obtain a development kit then I/we could create whatever I/we want. (Yes, I/we, lol)
Would the previous be a plausible method?
(oh and for the previously previous scenario, would you even need a decrypted hash in order to get the 360 to accept content? I am wondering because I am comparing it to my knowledge of MD5 and most systems that I have come across that use MD5 only compare an MD5 hash to the second MD5 hash to see if the password is correct (I know that there is a very large difference between 32bit and 2048bit (combination-wise)), so it would seem (though I have no knowledge of how exactly the 360 security works) that developers would just insert the already hashed password into their game/content for it to be compared in hash to the string in the 360.
- Astrum
Post by: Arakon on October 28, 2008, 12:46:00 AM
quite a few people in the scene own a devkit, btw. but like I said, it's useless for any of that.
Post by: somethingdope on November 01, 2008, 05:59:00 AM
Post by: Robborboy on November 03, 2008, 12:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Astrum @ Oct 27 2008, 08:39 AM)
What.. you've never heard of brute-forcing a hash with a hash cracking CPU? It would probably only take about a week and I am going to try it as soon as I get mine in the mail.
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Post by: xtalent on November 03, 2008, 04:12:00 PM
Post by: Robborboy on November 03, 2008, 05:12:00 PM
QUOTE(xtalent @ Nov 3 2008, 07:48 PM)
You know what? Im just going to go and buy Microsoft and make xbox live free. How bout that guys?? Hmm
1. You don't have the money.
2. Xbox Live costing 5$ a month is what allows us to have the great updates we get.
Post by: Robborboy on November 03, 2008, 10:10:00 PM
QUOTE(SupaDawg @ Nov 4 2008, 12:34 AM)
Sarcasm not your strong suit eh?
Yes Sir it is. I just like answering things literally.
Post by: JDawg117 on December 10, 2008, 10:37:00 PM
LET THIS BE A LESSON TO EVERYBODY
It is not a good idea for pregnant women to try crystal meth or cocain or whatever his mom appearently did.
Post by: Mholt215 on December 10, 2008, 11:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Ultra_Extreme @ Oct 27 2008, 05:00 PM)
I just had a thought guys! What if i put a ps2 iso into my 360 so that it thought it was a PS2 then i could plug it into my kettle and brew a tea, the resulting leaf grind formations of which should reveal the security key alogrithm unlocking the secrets of the universe. Technicalities aside and all that, should work.
I laughed so hard reading that post I cryed for like 10 minutes LOL
Post by: xboxgamer733 on December 11, 2008, 04:40:00 AM
