Post by: ChiKoo on January 13, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
Post by: modthebox.tk on January 13, 2006, 07:58:00 PM
Splinter Cell will not be BC because MS has seen what we can do with the flaws. They will not repeat it. The exploit also uses buffer overflow (correct me if I'm wrong) and puts in modded code.
X360 is immune to buffer overflow.
Post by: Zanzang on January 15, 2006, 12:01:00 AM
QUOTE(modthebox.tk @ Jan 13 2006, 09:05 PM) 
it could be turned into a technical retorical post, though:
Splinter Cell will not be BC because MS has seen what we can do with the flaws. They will not repeat it. The exploit also uses buffer overflow (correct me if I'm wrong) and puts in modded code.
X360 is immune to buffer overflow.
Immunity is relative.
Post by: Schmoozer on January 15, 2006, 12:13:00 AM
Post by: Romps on January 15, 2006, 01:15:00 AM
QUOTE(modthebox.tk @ Jan 14 2006, 03:05 AM)
it could be turned into a technical retorical post, though:
Splinter Cell will not be BC because MS has seen what we can do with the flaws. They will not repeat it. The exploit also uses buffer overflow (correct me if I'm wrong) and puts in modded code.
X360 is immune to buffer overflow.
ERMMM are u sure about splinter cell not ever gona be BC on 360
Because if so i duno what i have done wrong but ive been able to play it since the december update on my 360..
Post by: Overloaded on January 15, 2006, 08:47:00 AM
http://www.xbox.com/...tygameslist.htm
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell®
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell® Chaos Theory
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell® Pandora Tomorrow
all 3 of them
QUOTE(kimbonious @ Jan 15 2006, 04:46 PM)
What does any of this have to do with hacking
This should be in the games forums
keep up with the scene and you would know that this has everything to do with hacking. we,ve the ability to add xbox1 gamesaves to the 360 hdd now and everyone wants someone to try and load the hacked gamesave splintercell with evox installer from the xbox360.
Post by: mandrake001 on January 15, 2006, 08:47:00 AM
Post by: Overloaded on January 15, 2006, 08:55:00 AM
QUOTE(mandrake001 @ Jan 15 2006, 04:54 PM)
true i tried splintercell on my 360 2day and it works fine after it downloaded the patch for it now i need a simple way 2 put the save on hd
yeah you said it m8. (need a simple way) linux,removal of the 360 hdd from its inclosure, hooking it to your pc, running cmds from linux, backing up a 20gb hdd image, opening the image inserting your save then sending the image back to the hdd. sounds like an all day job to me.
it might get easier with time:)
Post by: lordvader129 on January 15, 2006, 11:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Overloaded @ Jan 15 2006, 10:02 AM)
yeah you said it m8. (need a simple way) linux,removal of the 360 hdd from its inclosure, hooking it to your pc, running cmds from linux, backing up a 20gb hdd image, opening the image inserting your save then sending the image back to the hdd. sounds like an all day job to me.
it might get easier with time:)
no one has tried it because anyone smart enough to get the save on the HD is smart enough to know it wont work, lol
QUOTE
Immunity is relative.
true, but the whole point of MS making the 360 resistant to buffer overflows was so we couldnt use the same hacks we used in the past, would be kinda pointless if the SC exploit still worked, no?
Post by: i800phyco on January 16, 2006, 05:45:00 AM
QUOTE
no one has tried it because anyone smart enough to get the save on the HD is smart enough to know it wont work, lol
I couldent agree more.
Think about it ms is not that dumb.
Post by: slyt on January 16, 2006, 05:54:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Jan 15 2006, 08:15 PM)
no one has tried it because anyone smart enough to get the save on the HD is smart enough to know it wont work, lol
true, but the whole point of MS making the 360 resistant to buffer overflows was so we couldnt use the same hacks we used in the past, would be kinda pointless if the SC exploit still worked, no?
No offence, but in order to be certain, it must be tested first.
Things can be overlooked and the only way to rule something out is to try it.
Saying that anyone smart enough wouldnt bother is an odd comment. The cleverest people try things dispite what they are told/lead to believe and uncover new ideas...
Post by: Romps on January 16, 2006, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE(slyt @ Jan 16 2006, 01:01 PM)
No offence, but in order to be certain, it must be tested first.
Things can be overlooked and the only way to rule something out is to try it.
Saying that anyone smart enough wouldnt bother is an odd comment. The cleverest people try things dispite what they are told/lead to believe and uncover new ideas...
I agree with the comment of people trying even though they been told it cant be done
Like we wouldnt have a bigger hd then 136gig in xbox if it wasnt for oz_paul trying something the so called smart people told him was impossible..
But even if the splinter cell hack could work on the 360 as ms could of over looked the posible idea since they dont allow xbox saves to be transfered to 360...
I wouldnt agree there tbh as the game was patched in later editions for the savegame hack to not even work on the xbox the 360 BC file would also patch the game while running it..
So maybe a new game thats not had a hack but will work with a hack maybe able to do something but its doubtfull imo..
Post by: s0ftm0d on January 16, 2006, 12:54:00 PM
Post by: s0ftm0d on January 16, 2006, 04:29:00 PM
Post by: crosseye on January 16, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
Now, let's just say MS is totally clueless and comprised of complete morons. What about all the other logical problems that arise. So, they didn't do any of the above. Joe Schmoe goes through all the work of getting the save game with evox on his 360. He inserts SC and boots his savegame. Forget the fact that the 360 works on a software emulation that assuredly won't allow this exploit to work. Let's say it appears to go. Yippeeeeee, you just overflowed a VIRTUAL stack! It's not a real stack and voila, you've done nothing. Crashed the emulator at most.
Post by: jameswalter on January 16, 2006, 07:46:00 PM
QUOTE(crosseye @ Jan 16 2006, 03:44 PM)
Let's take a logical vote here. Who the hell thinks MS has NO access to the same exploits we do? Who here thinks they don't know how they work? Who here thinks they've never used an exploit on an xbox to get a good look at it? Finally, who here thinks they didn't FOOKIN try it themselves on the 360 BEFORE they made SC BC?
Now, let's just say MS is totally clueless and comprised of complete morons. What about all the other logical problems that arise. So, they didn't do any of the above. Joe Schmoe goes through all the work of getting the save game with evox on his 360. He inserts SC and boots his savegame. Forget the fact that the 360 works on a software emulation that assuredly won't allow this exploit to work. Let's say it appears to go. Yippeeeeee, you just overflowed a VIRTUAL stack! It's not a real stack and voila, you've done nothing. Crashed the emulator at most.
Ohhh....I think they are. I'm sure they spent 2 years on security and completely forgot how the xbox was broken into. It's so simple....
Come on people...drop this crap already...It won't work.
Post by: ymgve on January 17, 2006, 05:46:00 AM
QUOTE(dwall4 @ Jan 17 2006, 05:27 AM)
and even if u do get the save onto the HDD and u load it up in SC, then like its been said before, it would only crash the xbox emulator, but not the 360 itself.
would be amazing if it worked but so many things point to it not being possible. still waiting for someone to prove us wrong
It wouldn't even crash the emulator, only what's running inside the emulator. I still think it's worth an attempt - fixing old bugs was probably not MS's highest priority since we're limited to the emulated environment anyway.
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