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Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Xbox-Scene on October 26, 2009, 02:19:00 PM
Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Posted by XanTium | October 26 16:19 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From xboxlive.ign.com:
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The announcement that video streaming service Netflix would be headed to PlayStation 3 next month left many wondering if Microsoft would respond by dropping the Xbox Live Gold membership requirement to use the service on the Xbox 360.

That answer, as of today, is no.

A company spokesperson reiterated to IGN the value of Xbox Live Gold status, saying it's online experience is still "a generation ahead of the competition" despite a yearly subscription cost.

Full Story: xboxlive.ign.com



Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: xboxjason on October 26, 2009, 02:33:00 PM
But what about the users interested in netflix only, and not online gaming? No discounts, eh?    rolleyes.gif
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: jdsony on October 26, 2009, 02:33:00 PM
Really? That seems a bit strange that you have to pay Microsoft and Netflix for a movie. If you are already on Live Gold then it makes no difference but I'm sure there is a small subset of Xbox gamers that don't game online yet would rent movies.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: C_Ripper on October 26, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
Well once PS3 users complain of excessive buffer times and choppy overall performance, I will continue to happily play my $4.20/month for XBL.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: krawhitham on October 26, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
Only reason I have Live gold is for Netflix, At least now I do not have to renew it.  The PS3 just got better (at least for me, only thing I use my PS3 for is to watch streaming videos.  I have not played a game on my PS3 in over a year)
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: medievil on October 26, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
yea but then if they let everyone on live do the netflix thing, they can't claim that Gold has value...lol
I mean seriously..

Ps3 is now going to be a blu-ray player AND stream netflix.. for home entertainment , it seems to be the better value...
especially since there really are not any worthwhile xbox exclusive games(Not into halo or GOW or online gaming for that matter)

M$ is gonna need to add MUCH more to convince people that Live is worth $50 a year (Or more if the increase rumor is true)


and to the fella that said PS3 will be choppy/excessive buffering.. thats BS, you connect directly to Netflix (Even with a 360) live has nothing to do with it, except you have to have it in order to RUN the Netflix player

This post has been edited by medievil: Oct 26 2009, 09:41 PM
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: krawhitham on October 26, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
QUOTE(C_Ripper @ Oct 26 2009, 09:36 PM) View Post

Well once PS3 users complain of excessive buffer times and choppy overall performance, I will continue to happily play my $4.20/month for XBL.



It will be streamed off the netflix servers so I do not think we need to worry about Sony's crappy servers
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: supercheap007 on October 26, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
QUOTE(C_Ripper @ Oct 26 2009, 09:36 PM) *

Well once PS3 users complain of excessive buffer times and choppy overall performance, I will continue to happily play my $4.20/month for XBL.


Lets see how long that 4.20 stays at 4.20 and not 8.40.
Worth it then?
Because that whole free thing sounds really good to me.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: C_Ripper on October 26, 2009, 02:45:00 PM
QUOTE(krawhitham @ Oct 26 2009, 08:39 PM) View Post

It will be streamed off the netflix servers so I do not think we need to worry about Sony's crappy servers


Ah, true enough... well yeah, if I already had a PS3, that would be cool, but it's certainly not enough to make me go buy one.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: cRACKmONKEY421 on October 26, 2009, 02:52:00 PM
Without considering hacks, I'd choose PS3 now for sure.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: royvedas on October 26, 2009, 03:04:00 PM
QUOTE(cRACKmONKEY421 @ Oct 26 2009, 10:52 PM) View Post

Without considering hacks, I'd choose PS3 now for sure.


Yeah PS3 is looking better and better.

Having both consoles I don't have to decide, but PS3 is looking better and better. The price difference is practically nonexistent. The ps3 console is redisigned, smaller and makes almost no noise. The ps3 uses standard cables for power and controllers (usb for charging). It has bluray. It has a free online gaming service. It has some good games.

I really love GoW... but the Live deal is getting worse. They need to "free" it.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: commadore64 on October 26, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
I just got a ps3.
I still like NXE/Live interface a lot more. Netflix is good/okay on 360 but Netflix iself offers sub-average content.
Then with the new ZUNE Video Marketplace with immediate 1080 hd movies on demand, outside of high priced rental fees (in my opinion) there is a ton of content provided from there as well as CinemaNow on MediaCenter.

I hope Sony and MS get into a fist-fight over on-demand content. I will reap the rewards from either winner


*Also I am only 1 week owner of PS3 so I may be overlooking some PS3 features
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: PaddyPat on October 26, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
QUOTE(Xantium @ Oct 26 2009, 12:19 PM) View Post

'...[the Xbox 360] online experience is still "a generation ahead of the competition" despite a yearly subscription cost'


says the guy selling it
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Ranger72 on October 26, 2009, 04:09:00 PM
Just about any given day I have new Xbox 360's piles to the roof all around me. I can play a new 360 any time I want.

But I never feel a reason to turn one on to play when I got a PS3 hooked to each of my HDTV's.

To me this is yet another nail in the 360 coffin.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: spinr34 on October 26, 2009, 04:15:00 PM
netflix on the ps3 is going to use a disc. you have to insert the disc each time you want to stream something from netflix. so, i wonder, will netflix send this disc to any subscriber who wants it or is it going to be bought in the store. hmm....

This post has been edited by spinr34: Oct 26 2009, 11:16 PM
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: simpull7 on October 26, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
QUOTE(spinr34 @ Oct 26 2009, 11:15 PM) *

netflix on the ps3 is going to use a disc. you have to insert the disc each time you want to stream something from netflix. so, i wonder, will netflix send this disc to any subscriber who wants it or is it going to be bought in the store. hmm....


Looks like you can reserve the disc now and they will send you it for free.

"Netflix members and PS3 system owners can now reserve a free instant streaming disc for PS3 systems by going to www.netflix.com/ps3. Upon availability, the instant streaming disc will be delivered for free by first-class mail, generally one business day after members request it."

http://netflix.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=334

This post has been edited by simpull7: Oct 26 2009, 11:35 PM
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Paperstack.1 on October 26, 2009, 05:01:00 PM
+1 for Sony. Keep 'em coming... i'll definitely make the convert back and stay.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: K1LLERHORNET on October 26, 2009, 05:31:00 PM
Stupid Microsoft.

Atleast decrease the XBL Gold fee.

Reduce it by 40%-50%.

Does anyone know why they think they need payment for a P2P service?
They don't have dedicated servers for games - the devs have to provide that themselves.
One game that could really use dedicated servers is Epic (Fails) Gears of War.

Seeing as Microsoft are too money hungry, i doubt we'll see a price cut on Live memberships for atleast 1yr - maybe at E310.

This post has been edited by K1LLERHORNET: Oct 27 2009, 12:34 AM
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Tr00p3r on October 26, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
Maybe I'm in the minority with this, but I got the 360 for the games. The blue ray option is obviously failing or sony wouldn't be looking to a 3rd party to stream hd content. Is this not competing against yourself for the same dollars blink.gif ?
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: tomgreen99200 on October 26, 2009, 05:36:00 PM
This really makes M$ look like shit. I love the xbox but its begining to look less kool. The PS3 is really starting to look like a better console right now. Free online-gaming, free web-browser, blue-ray and now netflix. Come on  grr.gif ! Facebook, Twitter, and last.fm arent even real selling points. Those things are already offered completely free. Those have already been available via the PS3 since day one, just use the browser.

p.s.

Even the Wii has a broswer, that disgust me.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: C-5 on October 26, 2009, 07:28:00 PM
If the rumors of cross-game party voice chat coming to the PSN are true... then I cannot think of a single feature that makes XBL Gold worth the subscription cost anymore.

Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: eduardor2k on October 26, 2009, 07:33:00 PM
One question?

If i can stream movies to my PS3, why do i need bluray?

xD

PS: The Ps3 got better, i'm sure that in the future Netflix will be part of the ps3 as a download, not a dvd add-on
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: BasicAir on October 26, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
I have had a 360 since launch, and a PS3 since January 2007. I prefer my 360, and don't use my PS3 for gaming, but it is nice it's online service is free.

That said, XBL is far superior. There's no need to point out why, as there are lots of facts out there that do that job just fine.

I am not saying MS should raise the price, but I will say that I would gladly pay over $100/year for XBL. I'm just saying...
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: DemisesAngel on October 26, 2009, 09:28:00 PM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Oct 26 2009, 10:59 PM) View Post
I have had a 360 since launch, and a PS3 since January 2007. I prefer my 360, and don't use my PS3 for gaming, but it is nice it's online service is free.

That said, XBL is far superior. There's no need to point out why, as there are lots of facts out there that do that job just fine.

I am not saying MS should raise the price, but I will say that I would gladly pay over $100/year for XBL. I'm just saying...


Well then maybe you can give me the extra $50 that I wouldn't like to pay for if it gets that high.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: medievil on October 26, 2009, 09:49:00 PM
QUOTE(spinr34 @ Oct 26 2009, 11:15 PM) *

netflix on the ps3 is going to use a disc. you have to insert the disc each time you want to stream something from netflix. so, i wonder, will netflix send this disc to any subscriber who wants it or is it going to be bought in the store. hmm....


any subscriber, for free.. already got mine on reserve through netflix

QUOTE(eduardor2k @ Oct 27 2009, 02:33 AM) *

One question?

If i can stream movies to my PS3, why do i need bluray?

xD

PS: The Ps3 got better, i'm sure that in the future Netflix will be part of the ps3 as a download, not a dvd add-on


just because you can stream via Netflix, is that going to stop you from also buying Blu-rays of movies you really want to keep?

Personally a movie I really want, I wouldn't settle for streaming..
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: readmore on October 26, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
"... left many wondering if Microsoft would respond by dropping the Xbox Live Gold membership requirement to use the service on the Xbox 360...A company spokesperson reiterated to IGN the value of Xbox Live Gold status, saying it's online experience is still "a generation ahead of the competition" despite a yearly subscription cost."

How is that even an answer? They asked if MS was going to drop the Gold Requirement. If Netflix doesn't use LIVE servers then why require Gold? What does a superior online-service have to do with Netflix?

Is it just me or are all "reporters" giant pussies these days. Let me ask some hard-hitting questions and you'll get real answers.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: MaulerX on October 26, 2009, 09:59:00 PM
I have both systems. XBL is so much better than PSN it's not even funny.

XBL downloads are much faster than PSN.

Every single arcade game has a demo. Not on PSN.

When said game is downloaded I can play it instantly. On PSN, after download, I have to wait for it to install.

Cross game chat.

Cross game invites.

8 person party, no matter what each person is doing.

Using said party feature I can watch Netflix movies together with my friends and family. Not on PS3 Netflix.

Instant 1080p streaming. I'm in the beta and it is truly amazing. Has to be seen to be truly appreciated.



There's more but needless to say the PSN has a LONG way to go before it catches up to XBL.

This post has been edited by MaulerX: Oct 27 2009, 05:01 AM
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: dharrison on October 26, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Oct 26 2009, 06:09 PM) View Post

Just about any given day I have new Xbox 360's piles to the roof all around me. I can play a new 360 any time I want.

But I never feel a reason to turn one on to play when I got a PS3 hooked to each of my HDTV's.

To me this is yet another nail in the 360 coffin.


I couldn't agree with you more, Ranger. Microsoft might have the edge with services now, but when their rival companies fight back and offer the same services, except for free, that just makes Microsoft look (more) stupid and goes to show how bad Microsoft values money over customer satisfaction.

In the end, I'm still not a Sony platform fanboy. But, if they keep countering Microsoft's services by making them free.. put that together with free online play, and you might see me actually buy one. One question, though. Is PSN any different than XBOX LIVE in regards of how game companies deal with the console manufacturer in order to supply bandwidth for online gaming? I'm not too familiar with PSN, that is why I ask. I do know that Microsoft makes it easier on game developers by making it to where they don't have to worry about dishing out a lot of money for online capabilities in their games. Therefore, allowing Microsoft to cash in on that deal. So, what about Sony? How do they work their online service with game developers?
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: noodles2k on October 26, 2009, 11:56:00 PM
QUOTE(Tr00p3r @ Oct 26 2009, 11:32 PM) View Post
The blue ray option is obviously failing or sony wouldn't be looking to a 3rd party to stream hd content.

Failing? bluray isn't failing at all. It's certainly doing better than HD-DVD tongue.gif And the main supporters of HDDVD, Toshiba, have just started releasing bluray players. I think one of the reasons Sony have gone for netflix is to take the gauntlet away from MS.
QUOTE(eduardor2k @ Oct 27 2009, 01:33 AM) View Post

PS: The Ps3 got better, i'm sure that in the future Netflix will be part of the ps3 as a download, not a dvd add-on

it will be, but not till 2010. Sony currently has to use a disc for BD+ to get around the agreement that netflix made with MS which stated that only MS could have on hardware streaming software.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Martinchris23 on October 27, 2009, 01:21:00 AM
QUOTE(eduardor2k @ Oct 27 2009, 02:33 AM) View Post

One question?

If i can stream movies to my PS3, why do i need bluray?

xD




You are kidding, right?
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: biggnick on October 27, 2009, 01:56:00 AM
Funny, I've been watching Netflix streaming on my PS3 in HD for a long time now thanks to PlayOn media server. I guess this disk makes it so my PC doesn't HAVE to be on, although it will be anyways.


Well, even if that wasn't an option I already had, I wonder if people with an Xbox 360 AND a PS3 will have a problem streaming, since you can only "activate" Netflix directly through one system at a time. I remember when one of my 3 360's crapped out, I plugged my next one in and had to reactivate Netflix on it with a new code while I repaired the broken one.


For those without a Media server like PlayOn, I wonder if you can have multiple streaming netflix systems without a conflict?
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: RMF on October 27, 2009, 02:10:00 AM
QUOTE(MaulerX @ Oct 27 2009, 04:59 AM) View Post



XBL downloads are much faster than PSN.



Nope. I've had plenty of excruciatingly slow downloads from LIVE but the speeds that I get are generally acceptable. However, with the playstation store I download much faster. Approximately 3 to 4 MB/s.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Grumbledock on October 27, 2009, 02:16:00 AM
QUOTE(RMF @ Oct 27 2009, 10:10 AM) View Post

Nope. I've had plenty of excruciatingly slow downloads from LIVE but the speeds that I get are generally acceptable. However, with the playstation store I download much faster. Approximately 3 to 4 MB/s.


Sorry to say, but I think you're one of the few that ever has experienced PSN as fast as Live. PSN is slow as h*ll when downloading while live is fast (some MB/s at least), but if that makes it wort the money or not is wort dicussing.
Cheaper live or more for ethe money MS, otherwise Sony will kick you're but this generation too...
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: RMF on October 27, 2009, 07:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Grumbledock @ Oct 27 2009, 09:16 AM) View Post

Sorry to say, but I think you're one of the few that ever has experienced PSN as fast as Live. PSN is slow as h*ll when downloading while live is fast (some MB/s at least), but if that makes it wort the money or not is wort dicussing.
Cheaper live or more for ethe money MS, otherwise Sony will kick you're but this generation too...


I've heard people say that their PSN downloads have been very slow and every time that I'm aware of they've been connected wirelessly. The built in wireless adapter in the PS3 seems to be the main culprit, not their servers. Wire it up and it's very fast.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: JUANVAN on October 27, 2009, 07:46:00 AM
If this has to go thru Sony's servers at all it will be crap.

I tried watching a video on PSN sunday, and got sick of buffering.. Loaded up the 360 and everything was perfect for streaming.

Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: HotKnife420 on October 27, 2009, 08:52:00 AM
QUOTE(JUANVAN @ Oct 27 2009, 02:46 PM) View Post

If this has to go thru Sony's servers at all it will be crap.

I tried watching a video on PSN sunday, and got sick of buffering.. Loaded up the 360 and everything was perfect for streaming.


 Most people who have slow connections to the PSN are due to not setting up their router right. Google port forwarding + PS3.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Bradley687 on October 27, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
I bought a PS3 back in Aug when the new slim one came out. Again, I had buyer's remorse cause I really do not use PS3 for games, but more as a Blu Ray player. PS3 Media server made me love PS3 and not regret the purchase. Then Uncharted 2 just was amazing game, but thats it, just 1 game.

Now the netflix thing. If Sony keeps doing this I'll probably convert from my XBOX 360. I have both so I really don't have a preference.

I don't know why all the hate for PSN, its not that bad. It has demos, online play is OK but only tested with Uncharted 2.

One thing that does piss me off about PS3 is the whole "Install Game" I was so hyped to play Gran Turismo Prologue and by the time the game finished installed, 30 mins later I was ready to just turn it off and say th hell with this garbage. Even playing Metal Gear 4 gets to me when it installs the chapters.

But the biggest turnoff are the demos. Downloads, then installs. What I did to avoid the waiting, was downloaded a bunch of demos and left the PS3 on overnight.

For a media server, movie entertainment, High Def movies, PS3 wins hands down. If it had better games, more exclusive games like Uncharted 2, I'll convert to PS3.

Til then yes, XBOX 360 has the gaming thing down, PS3 is catching up, but its looking more and more appealing.

Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: ps2moduk on October 27, 2009, 10:11:00 AM
Never subscribed to XBL as i have never agreed with having to pay to go online. Just had a look at netflix and it seems to be an American thing, is this available to UK residents???

Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: wilson2010 on October 27, 2009, 10:24:00 AM
so the ps3 gets netflix. whoop di freaking do.

all you bitching people are so god damn cheap. for a whole 50 dollars a year you get decent download speeds and very reliable online gaming. if you get something for free you dont have any right to complain. if ms service fails i can call and say, hey shitbirds fix it or i demand my money back. whos going to give a damn on psn?

i do understand that people like their ps3s but please why post fanboy bs on xbox-scene. oooh psn is free - i want free - free is good.

fast reliable service thats free? you must be joking  love.gif
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: wassco on October 27, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
What are all these people complaining about PSN network.. slow? buffering? wtf.. ive never had a problem with any ps3 ive connected to my connection.. ive had a torrent downloading, a 2 360's online, and a ps3 online... nothing was fucken up...

now given i must have a sweet upload speed to pull this off im sure! but... never a buffering or lag spike or nothing.

PSN is fine..
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Martinchris23 on October 27, 2009, 10:55:00 AM
QUOTE(RMF @ Oct 27 2009, 09:10 AM) View Post

Nope. I've had plenty of excruciatingly slow downloads from LIVE but the speeds that I get are generally acceptable. However, with the playstation store I download much faster. Approximately 3 to 4 MB/s.


Then factor in the time it takes to install what you've downloaded (eg demos). With XBL it's ready once it's finished. With the PS3 however, you've then got to manually install once it's down.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: jdsony on October 27, 2009, 12:14:00 PM
QUOTE(noodles2k @ Oct 27 2009, 06:56 AM) *

MS have really got to pull their heads out their arses before they start falling behind.

Failing? bluray isn't failing at all. It's certainly doing better than HD-DVD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Not failing but they aren't flying off the shelves either. They wanted (and expected) universal adoption but that hasn't been happening. They expected the sequel to the DVD craze but the problem was it was too soon. If there had been a big HDTV adoption combined with a push for actual HD cable content first then a replacement for DVD would have been more easily accepted. Currently even now there are still a lot of people with HDTV's and either NO HD cable content of very little. DVD's look stunning compared to watching SD Cable on an HDTV.

I'm glad to see there aren't that many people standing up for Microsoft. I mean what's the point? I still think the Xbox 360 is a better gaming machine but you have to be insane to think paying for two services is better than paying for one.

QUOTE(wilson2010 @ Oct 27 2009, 05:24 PM) *

so the ps3 gets netflix. whoop di freaking do.

all you bitching people are so god damn cheap. for a whole 50 dollars a year you get decent download speeds and very reliable online gaming. if you get something for free you dont have any right to complain. if ms service fails i can call and say, hey shitbirds fix it or i demand my money back. whos going to give a damn on psn?

i do understand that people like their ps3s but please why post fanboy bs on xbox-scene. oooh psn is free - i want free - free is good.

fast reliable service thats free? you must be joking  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)


Hey you! This isn't about PSN vs LIVE this is about Netflix on Live. We're not talking about paying to play games online that's a different discussion. This is about paying for the privilege to use a third party's service. This has nothing to do with decent download speeds & reliable online gaming which may be true but has nothing to do with Netflix. Unless Sony is going to host all the Netflix movies then there should be no differences in streaming to the 360 or PS3. You seem to have forgotten that Netflix is the paid service in this instance so your sarcastic comment about a fast reliable free service is moot. Unless of course you think it's ok to pay a middle man.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: spurs2k5 on October 27, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
QUOTE(wilson2010 @ Oct 27 2009, 05:24 PM) View Post

so the ps3 gets netflix. whoop di freaking do.

all you bitching people are so god damn cheap. for a whole 50 dollars a year you get decent download speeds and very reliable online gaming. if you get something for free you dont have any right to complain. if ms service fails i can call and say, hey shitbirds fix it or i demand my money back. whos going to give a damn on psn?

i do understand that people like their ps3s but please why post fanboy bs on xbox-scene. oooh psn is free - i want free - free is good.

fast reliable service thats free? you must be joking  love.gif


Ok lets clear this up here. M$ does not use dedicated servers so you are your own server if you are hosting. Games like NBA2K use them as well as some others. So when you say "fast" i dont know what you are referring to. More than not GOW2 lags like shit is just shitty. That has to do with 2 things really Which is the netcode and the host. So to compare Sony and M$ on speed and game play performance is just stupid cause most games your connecting to some other player (this would be host and the server). Obviously M$ has a bigger install base so mathematically your gonna have a better chance of finding a lag free game.

As for the whole "cheap" statement......its statements like that is why M$ forces devs to charge on marketplace....even if they dont want to. They know they can do and charge whatever and people like you will defend it. Example being RE5 multipayer. I heard this from fan boys all over.... "Its ONLY". Yeah for something thats already on the game and just downloaded a key to unlock it. I can just see it now in the future..... "For ONLY 150 M$ points you can now pause the game". Money is not the point here, its a lot deeper than that.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: stevenalvarado on October 27, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
QUOTE
Because [PS3 and Wii] have open architecture Internet browsers built-in, the solution proposed for the PS3 would likely not violate the terms of Microsoft's exclusivity.


WOW just WOW.  muhaha.gif
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: medievil on October 27, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
QUOTE(biggnick @ Oct 27 2009, 08:56 AM) View Post

Funny, I've been watching Netflix streaming on my PS3 in HD for a long time now thanks to PlayOn media server. I guess this disk makes it so my PC doesn't HAVE to be on, although it will be anyways.
Well, even if that wasn't an option I already had, I wonder if people with an Xbox 360 AND a PS3 will have a problem streaming, since you can only "activate" Netflix directly through one system at a time. I remember when one of my 3 360's crapped out, I plugged my next one in and had to reactivate Netflix on it with a new code while I repaired the broken one.
For those without a Media server like PlayOn, I wonder if you can have multiple streaming netflix systems without a conflict?

ummm.>I have 3 360's and PC all on netflix..no conflict... you can have up to 6 devices per account..
 I'll just have to add the ps3 to the existing list
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: dokworm on October 27, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
Hmmm... I'm using my PS3 more and more.

Latest thing is that the Brutal Legend DLC is 400 points on live.... but FREE for the PS3.

I'm dropping my live subscription when it runs out this month, the value just isn't there any more and I'm sick of paying for an ad infested service.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Mushy2000 on October 27, 2009, 05:13:00 PM
my console got banned back on august 28th... I've been watching the developments between 360 and PS3 just to say I have a lot invested in my XBL account I've paid for 5 years of gold service and I've paid for hundreds of dollars of Rock Band DLC and DLC for Fallout 3 and CODWaw among other things I've built up in my account almost 60k gamerscore ... But I'm seriously considering buying a PS3, what they are offering now for the same price as the 360 you just can't beat it,

funny thing about it... I have like 2 real games for my 360,  when I get my PS3 I could care less that it can't be modded I would gladly pay for every game I enjoy on that console as it would be well worth it, and I could start myself as a legit paying consumer. MS is going to shit literally... there's a moderator here who is all gung ho about how good the ps3 is... and I think I flamed him once or twice, but I now I am actually seeing what the ps3 has to offer and I think maybe it's time I start anew on the ps3.

This post has been edited by Mushy2000: Oct 28 2009, 12:15 AM
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: hamwbone on October 27, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(Mushy2000 @ Oct 27 2009, 06:13 PM) View Post

my console got banned back on august 28th... I've been watching the developments between 360 and PS3 just to say I have a lot invested in my XBL account I've paid for 5 years of gold service and I've paid for hundreds of dollars of Rock Band DLC and DLC for Fallout 3 and CODWaw among other things I've built up in my account almost 60k gamerscore ... But I'm seriously considering buying a PS3, what they are offering now for the same price as the 360 you just can't beat it,

funny thing about it... I have like 2 real games for my 360,  when I get my PS3 I could care less that it can't be modded I would gladly pay for every game I enjoy on that console as it would be well worth it, and I could start myself as a legit paying consumer. MS is going to shit literally... there's a moderator here who is all gung ho about how good the ps3 is... and I think I flamed him once or twice, but I now I am actually seeing what the ps3 has to offer and I think maybe it's time I start anew on the ps3.


Microsoft doesn't give a SHIT if they loose you.  Sounds like you don't pay for shit anyway.

QUOTE(dokworm @ Oct 27 2009, 06:03 PM) View Post

Hmmm... I'm using my PS3 more and more.

Latest thing is that the Brutal Legend DLC is 400 points on live.... but FREE for the PS3.

I'm dropping my live subscription when it runs out this month, the value just isn't there any more and I'm sick of paying for an ad infested service.


Did you know you can turn that off in the preferences menu??????????

go to settings>profile>edit profile>privacy settings>xbox marketing> flag opt out
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: adrianc on October 27, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Mushy2000 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:13 AM) *

my console got banned back on august 28th... I've been watching the developments between 360 and PS3 just to say I have a lot invested in my XBL account I've paid for 5 years of gold service and I've paid for hundreds of dollars of Rock Band DLC and DLC for Fallout 3 and CODWaw among other things I've built up in my account almost 60k gamerscore ... But I'm seriously considering buying a PS3, what they are offering now for the same price as the 360 you just can't beat it,

funny thing about it... I have like 2 real games for my 360,  when I get my PS3 I could care less that it can't be modded I would gladly pay for every game I enjoy on that console as it would be well worth it, and I could start myself as a legit paying consumer. MS is going to shit literally... there's a moderator here who is all gung ho about how good the ps3 is... and I think I flamed him once or twice, but I now I am actually seeing what the ps3 has to offer and I think maybe it's time I start anew on the ps3.


Some people people believe that the current generation interacts so much with the consumer that its not worth hacking your machine and buying legit games is the way to go. I have a ps3 and buy all my games and I could easily buy another 360(because I sold mine) to mod it, but whats the point? If you dont pay for games you cant play online if you get banned you lose your DLC.

So paying for the games you actually love and you know you like from reviews and whatnot is well worth the money you spent on them. Maybe having a second console for modding is a good idea but lets get real if you want to enjoy the console to its fullest you got to pay for the content, you get a lot in features. When we had the ps1, ps2, xbox 1 we didnt have the kind of interaction we have today, the xbox1 dashboard was a joke. The ps1 was insert your disk and push power to play, we didnt interact with our benefactors like we do now. So stealing is not a the best option with the current generation and this wont change in fact I think we will have to interact even more with them in the future.

This post has been edited by adrianc: Oct 28 2009, 02:46 AM
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: DemisesAngel on October 27, 2009, 08:23:00 PM
QUOTE(medievil @ Oct 27 2009, 04:30 PM) View Post

ummm.>I have 3 360's and PC all on netflix..no conflict... you can have up to 6 devices per account..
 I'll just have to add the ps3 to the existing list


I'm not sure when they added the ability to have multiple devices added to your account, but when I first signed up for Netflix I tried adding my roommates to my netflix account, just in case we watched movies in their room instead of mine, it always replaced my XBox with their XBox.

I don't own a PS3, but doesn't it have a built-in browser? Couldn't you just log in to your netflix account from the browser or does it not allowed apps to be installed (like M$ Silverlight)?
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: hamwbone on October 27, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
QUOTE(DemisesAngel @ Oct 27 2009, 09:23 PM) View Post

I'm not sure when they added the ability to have multiple devices added to your account, but when I first signed up for Netflix I tried adding my roommates to my netflix account, just in case we watched movies in their room instead of mine, it always replaced my XBox with their XBox.

I don't own a PS3, but doesn't it have a built-in browser? Couldn't you just log in to your netflix account from the browser or does it not allowed apps to be installed (like M$ Silverlight)?


think you answered your own question  biggrin.gif

doesnt work hehe
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: RMF on October 28, 2009, 12:49:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Oct 27 2009, 05:55 PM) *

Then factor in the time it takes to install what you've downloaded (eg demos). With XBL it's ready once it's finished. With the PS3 however, you've then got to manually install once it's down.


If I factor that in then my PS3 downloads are still a hell of a lot faster. Nice try though.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: medievil on October 28, 2009, 03:54:00 AM
QUOTE(DemisesAngel @ Oct 28 2009, 03:23 AM) *

I'm not sure when they added the ability to have multiple devices added to your account, but when I first signed up for Netflix I tried adding my roommates to my netflix account, just in case we watched movies in their room instead of mine, it always replaced my XBox with their XBox.

I don't own a PS3, but doesn't it have a built-in browser? Couldn't you just log in to your netflix account from the browser or does it not allowed apps to be installed (like M$ Silverlight)?

don't think it works... but even if it did... I don't much like the browser streaming on netflix.. the plugins seem to produce less than stellar quality..streaming to a dedicated device (360, Roku[I have seen them in action]) gives a MUCH better result..
It's almost as if the Browser player plays them at a lower stream setting...
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: HotKnife420 on October 28, 2009, 08:17:00 AM
QUOTE(hamwbone @ Oct 28 2009, 02:42 AM) View Post

Microsoft doesn't give a SHIT if they loose you.  Sounds like you don't pay for shit anyway.
Did you know you can turn that off in the preferences menu??????????

go to settings>profile>edit profile>privacy settings>xbox marketing> flag opt out


 Someone (perhaps you) has suggested that in a previous thread. That doesn't really stop the ads, tho; it stops them from emailing you stuff. The ads will still be on the dash, and the only way to have it start on 'my xbox' is to boot it while disconnected from LIVE.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: trentdadi on October 28, 2009, 11:53:00 AM
QUOTE(xboxjason @ Oct 26 2009, 09:33 PM) *

But what about the users interested in netflix only, and not online gaming? No discounts, eh?    (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

For that, you mine as well just get the netflix box deal thing.  Forget what its called.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: hamwbone on October 28, 2009, 04:11:00 PM
QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Oct 28 2009, 09:17 AM) View Post

Someone (perhaps you) has suggested that in a previous thread. That doesn't really stop the ads, tho; it stops them from emailing you stuff. The ads will still be on the dash, and the only way to have it start on 'my xbox' is to boot it while disconnected from LIVE.


uh, yeah it does. i tried it and compared.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: Mushy2000 on October 28, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
QUOTE(hamwbone @ Oct 28 2009, 02:42 AM) *

Microsoft doesn't give a SHIT if they loose you.  Sounds like you don't pay for shit anyway.
Did you know you can turn that off in the preferences menu??????????

go to settings>profile>edit profile>privacy settings>xbox marketing> flag opt out


Obviously you can't read. I've bought over a thousand dollars of DLC over my 5 years. not even joking.

rock band makes up a big portion of that, I love guitar hero rock band and I have every single dlc song for rock band, I'm anything but cheap,
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: iceman72 on October 29, 2009, 08:37:00 PM
I guess I am in the minority. But even with this Netflix on my PS3. I just don't like the PS3 game selection. I hate the controllers. I hate that I can not swap batteries in my PS3 controllers. I just like the menu system and online play much much better on the 360. I dont care if its $49 bucks a year. Really thats nothing. People blow more than that on cigarettes. Heck I dont even watch BR movies on my PS3. For me its worthless. I just traded in all my games toward DJ Hero on the 360. If I though I could get a decent amount of cash for my PS3 it would be sold. But I hold on to it just in case that game comes along that just is on PS3.
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: hamwbone on October 30, 2009, 05:39:00 AM
QUOTE(iceman72 @ Oct 29 2009, 09:37 PM) View Post

I guess I am in the minority. But even with this Netflix on my PS3. I just don't like the PS3 game selection. I hate the controllers. I hate that I can not swap batteries in my PS3 controllers. I just like the menu system and online play much much better on the 360. I dont care if its $49 bucks a year. Really thats nothing. People blow more than that on cigarettes. Heck I dont even watch BR movies on my PS3. For me its worthless. I just traded in all my games toward DJ Hero on the 360. If I though I could get a decent amount of cash for my PS3 it would be sold. But I hold on to it just in case that game comes along that just is on PS3.


Uncharted 2 man!
Title: Microsoft Responds To PS3 Netflix Announcement
Post by: lcprove on October 30, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
PS3 has numerous good exclusive games now, here are some:  Metal Gear 4, uncharted 2, infamous, killzone 2, resistance 2, littlebigplanet, ninja gaiden sigma 1 and 2, ratchet and clank's, and more.  xbox 360 basically has GoW, forza and halo.

This post has been edited by lcprove: Oct 30 2009, 06:51 PM