Post by: -Natas- on March 03, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
This post has been edited by -Natas-: Mar 11 2004, 04:51 AM
Post by: billenglish on March 04, 2004, 02:28:00 PM
GentooX is still best
ShALLaX -- Great work on incorporating focus
Post by: morningla on March 06, 2004, 01:09:00 PM
i tried changing the section "screen" in XF86Config-4 to 800x600, and KDE woundn't start, so i restore the backup.
is there a way to change resolution?
Post by: Potato Bob on March 16, 2004, 04:50:00 PM
and it dosnt really take 2 hours to install but the update at first might take a while since they came out with the new kernel but other than that gentoox and icewm or xfce is great dont know about the res in kde tho
Post by: luther349 on March 17, 2004, 04:04:00 PM
xebain ownez at a quick easy installer and smokes gentoox at speed and quick installes of new apps mostly couse its binary based. but it does lack on updates and doesent support nowhere near what gentoox does when it comes to none standerd controlers such as mine a cheap gamestop controler whont work in xebain but works great in gentoox.
in the end gentoox gets my vote simply anything you throw at it works even thow the installer is dirt slow it makes up for it in the end.
oh as for the usb devices not laoding once i cought on to that and unplugged my dvd dongle gentoox always loads the usb devices aka my controler all the time no failers.
This post has been edited by luther349: Mar 18 2004, 12:06 AM
Post by: Potato Bob on March 17, 2004, 06:37:00 PM
mine always fails at somthing about writing to the hd
so i just ftp it to the hd e:\
then run my updates and magic f-drive then my stuff like ice-wm
but only thing that bugs me is the first update is long as hell like every one knows
<_<
but im not dissin xebian either
This post has been edited by Potato Bob: Mar 18 2004, 02:37 AM
Post by: flattspott on May 12, 2004, 05:29:00 AM
Post by: QuimbyDogg on May 13, 2004, 06:22:00 PM
I am lazy and more or less just installed gentoox for the factor of WOW I really can install linux on an xbox. I tried to put on debian but I had trouble with it. Gentoox was very easy to install. As far as normal releases go I use Mandrake on my PC just because it is really easy to install with the bootloader lilo so I can dual boot winXP. I dont use linux seriously so any release that works without problems is good for me. I like linux as a toy to play with... I guess all this computer stuff is more or less a toy to play with anyway though 
Post by: pSyCo on May 16, 2004, 08:37:00 PM
But i'm installing Xebian right now ... it's easy. Burn ISO, pop in, ftp, run file...
Anyways, from the looks of it, i'm keeping Xebian (although I dislike it's x86 pc counterpart ... well, the instalation)..
next i'm gonna see if VNC is already on here, if not .. gotta install the server, and Synergy...
Post by: chimpanzee on May 24, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
Post by: Taily on June 14, 2004, 10:59:00 AM
And as everyone else, i too think magic takes way too long, thats why i try to update it (and most other big things) on the computer.. well it gives a few errors here and there but it works, except i could never compile gdm on the comp, allways some error, but it doesn't matter =)
Post by: Drunkn_Munky on June 17, 2004, 08:03:00 AM
Xebian is ok, but I prefer gentoox
Post by: the_devil73 on July 01, 2004, 03:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (Potato Bob @ Nov 30 2003, 05:29 AM) |
Well the distros on xbox is different from pc But hell its fun to mess wit. Ecept for the thing that I keep doin stupid things in xbox linux lately. I hate it broke 3 times today and currently updateing to new kernel but wtf i cant connect to install new programs like emerge amsn or emerge -u world Xbox root # emerge amsn Calculating dependencies ...done! >>> emerge (1 of 2) dev-tcltk/tls-1.4.1 to / >>> Downloading ftp://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo///dist...ls1.4.1-src.tar. gz --05:24:04-- ftp://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/distfi....4.1-src.tar.gz => `/usr/portage/distfiles/tls1.4.1-src.tar.gz' Resolving ftp.easynet.nl... done. Connecting to ftp.easynet.nl[195.86.128.57]:21... and sits there. Then retries  If it's pernamently down then how do i switch to a different thing and which one |
never been a problem, if it weremt for gentooX, my xbox would be a peice of tuppaware holding chips and dip for parties lol.
good looks shallax
P.S. KDE is the shit
i got a mini-kb off ebay for .99 cents, gentooX and it work together well. Havent had a single prob!
Post by: Potato Bob on July 05, 2004, 07:11:00 AM
(well then again there where some modifications)
It seems that both Xebian and gentoox have reached a point where they are almost equal in their installs, but what about installing new apps?
I think it was with debian u use apt-get am I right? Which I can say doesnt compare to gentoo's emerge command.
It always happeneds to me with apt-get it doesnt install everything needed for u or
it installs it and doesnt install it right (no seriously). So I would have to usually install the apps by hand
example: apt-get install xmms
example: apt-get update
(sorry dont remeber more)
Gentoo here's emerge I never had a problem with other than some stupid commands of mine
.Gentoo Builds all of its apps from scratch so obviuosly it would be a little bit more optimized for the xbox since shallax has preconfigured them for us knowing that we all are on the same type of hardware except for the video encoders.
Although gentoo compile's all of its apps from scratch it seriously takes some time
maybe a day or three for somethings. (might I suggest distcc or openmosix?)
Don't forget uninstalling is easy and fast just use the unmerge command
example: emerge xmms
example: emerge -C xmms (-C means unmerge)
example: emerge unmerge xmms
example: emerge -s xmms (-s is to search for an app)
I'm pretty sure I didn't make this post a balanced one cuz im in a little hurry
Feel free to criticize
Post by: chimpanzee on August 03, 2004, 09:51:00 AM
| QUOTE (Meurig @ Aug 3 2004, 05:28 PM) |
| Really sorry if things are different on an xbox (only just looking into it), but I use Debian on a server PC at home and I feel apt-get deserves someone to stick up for it! I've never once had a problem with apt-get, it works flawlessly every time, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; are two commands no debian user could ever do without, completely and flawlessly keeping everything on the server up to date - simply! no fuss, no mess, and certainly no manual installs. apt-get install mypackage; installs, and apt-get remove mypackage; removes it - I'm not trying to put down gentoo, but this simplicity, and the speed benefits of binaries is the reason I use it. As for gentoos 'compile your own' style being more suited to the xbox than a binary distribution, I have to disagree. Since everyones xbox has the sme hardware all you need is one person to create an optimized binary and it's all set for every other xbox user. I'm afraid I don't know if there is anyone creating xbox optimized deb's, but if optimisation really makes a difference it would seem the most sensible route. Now I guess it's just time to find out how favourably xebian and gentoox compare to their PC (et. al.) counterparts. |
there is a repository that is geared towards xbox(mainly multimedia stuff) but it is this same repository that is causing problem for apt-get.
On a server which you are mostly running woody, apt-get is really solid as rock but when you begin to play with backports from various source and all of them try one way or another to work around the basic woody, problems surface.
Post by: roundyz on August 09, 2004, 03:25:00 PM
i thought id try gentoo for my pc.
4 attempts after and one big 89page install menu print off................
no luck.....
gonna try again next month.
so kudos to you shallaX, fair play kid.
Post by: crazy8 on August 15, 2004, 09:02:00 PM
Post by: joemonkey on August 27, 2004, 01:00:00 AM
Post by: joemonkey on September 03, 2004, 05:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (BlaCkAdDa @ Sep 3 2004, 07:35 AM) |
| Also are you guys saying that you can't run linux in 800*600 on an xbox through TV? |
I'm running mine at 800x600, it's just kinda blurry.
Post by: Potato Bob on September 16, 2004, 03:13:00 PM
I guess thats why my text is extremely readable
sucks now that i dont have an xbox
just an amd 2800+ server with 300gb
Post by: aaron1017 on October 03, 2004, 10:29:00 AM
Post by: bleugh on October 09, 2004, 02:27:00 PM
are there any comparisons of a 64 meg and a 128 meg gentoox installation
Post by: Supplicium on October 27, 2004, 09:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (bleugh @ Oct 9 2004, 10:30 PM) |
| any of you guys used 128 meg on gentoox, does it really make installing / updating much quicker? are there any comparisons of a 64 meg and a 128 meg gentoox installation |
i have, i see a huge difference in loading/running speed. esp with KDE.
Post by: desertboy on November 15, 2004, 07:00:00 AM
I still dual boot to XP but not for much longer there's less and less reason. (Half life 2 is the only reason I haven't already gone to gentoo full time)
But if I was to setup a linux xbox now I would use xebian probably (Except of course I am slowly getting a lot better with gentoo).
I don't use linux on the box anymore as it's just too painful (Damn your M$ why didn't you put 128meg in the xbox.)
Post by: LoganDzwon on January 07, 2005, 10:55:00 PM
Post by: Potato Bob on November 06, 2003, 01:42:00 PM
How about some more voters.
Since all the distros have been updated a few times since this poll opened
Post by: Potato Bob on November 06, 2003, 04:02:00 PM
lol
Post by: ShALLaX on November 08, 2003, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: netscan on November 08, 2003, 11:06:00 PM
Debian = took 2 months, 10-15 broken installs trying to make it install basic Linux programs (missing libraries, laundry list of other things).
Gentoox = 1 day, 1 install and had it doing everything I couldnt get Debian to do. I have been running it for about a month now with no trouble at all.
Many thanks to shallax
Again, just my 2 cents.
Post by: ShALLaX on November 09, 2003, 06:17:00 AM
I try my best hehe.
Post by: desertboy on November 11, 2003, 10:34:00 AM
| QUOTE (netscan @ Nov 9 2003, 07:06 AM) |
| My 2 cents: Debian = took 2 months, 10-15 broken installs trying to make it install basic Linux programs (missing libraries, laundry list of other things). Gentoox = 1 day, 1 install and had it doing everything I couldnt get Debian to do. I have been running it for about a month now with no trouble at all. Many thanks to shallax Again, just my 2 cents. |
If it wasn't for gentoox I wouldn't be using linux, peroid.
Post by: liemer on November 13, 2003, 08:45:00 AM
Post by: ShALLaX on November 29, 2003, 03:48:00 AM
Post by: Potato Bob on November 29, 2003, 05:50:00 AM
O ShaLLax you might wanna put all the information in one place on your website.
I had some trouble finding some information there
Post by: joele on November 29, 2003, 03:22:00 PM
Anyway seriously ATM I am leaning towards Xebian as I am a long time debian user on PC (tried many others including gentoo, slackware, manrape, redshat, the list goes on) and I just prefer debian.
Now for the XBOX the reason I am using debian is on the GentooX page it says for focus chips (I have a 1,4 xbox) Gentoox only supports resolution up to 640x480 but on the last two version of Xebain (0.5, 1.0) 800x600 has worked fine on my XBOX!
EDIT: The other reason I guess I went for debain over gentoo on Xbox is as I said I use debain (sid) on PC and am used to that!
This post has been edited by joele: Nov 29 2003, 11:24 PM
Post by: Potato Bob on November 29, 2003, 07:29:00 PM
But hell its fun to mess wit. Ecept for the thing that I keep doin stupid things in xbox linux lately.
I hate it broke 3 times today
and currently updateing to new kernel
but wtf i cant connect to install new programs
like emerge amsn
or emerge -u world
Xbox root # emerge amsn
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 2) dev-tcltk/tls-1.4.1 to /
>>> Downloading ftp://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo///dist...ls1.4.1-src.tar.
gz
--05:24:04-- ftp://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/distfi....4.1-src.tar.gz
=> `/usr/portage/distfiles/tls1.4.1-src.tar.gz'
Resolving ftp.easynet.nl... done.
Connecting to ftp.easynet.nl[195.86.128.57]:21...
and sits there. Then retries
If it's pernamently down then how do i switch to a different thing and which one
Post by: joele on November 29, 2003, 10:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (Potato Bob @ Nov 30 2003, 05:29 AM) |
| Well the distros on xbox is different from pc |
Why? Xebian is based on Debain and GentooX is based on Gentoo!!!
Post by: Potato Bob on November 29, 2003, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: ShALLaX on November 30, 2003, 01:00:00 PM
Btw, the easynet mirror is down, run "mirrorselect -a -s4 -D" and it will find you a bunch of new mirrors... i had to recompile 307 packages with it trying that mirror 10 times for each package (takes about 15 mins until it moves onto the next mirror)...
Post by: joele on November 30, 2003, 02:22:00 PM
We are both talking about changing X-Windows to 800-600 yeah? In which case I don't know what to say other than I will pull it apart in the next couple of days and check what chip is in it!
This post has been edited by joele on Nov 30 2003, 11:21 PM
Post by: Potato Bob on November 30, 2003, 01:32:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Btw, the easynet mirror is down, run "mirrorselect -a -s4 -D" and it will find you a bunch of new mirrors... i had to recompile 307 packages with it trying that mirror 10 times for each package (takes about 15 mins until it moves onto the next mirror)... |
ya i kinda learned that yesterday
Post by: Potato Bob on November 30, 2003, 01:35:00 PM
so you might just wanna check
Post by: joele on November 30, 2003, 01:51:00 PM