Post by: Xbox-Scene on February 19, 2008, 03:05:00 PM
Xboxfounder on HD-DVD/Blu-ray for Xbox 360 Posted by XanTium | February 19 17:05 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
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Post by: SuperStition on February 19, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
Post by: GamerBR on February 19, 2008, 03:57:00 PM
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Post by: SeNtReX on February 19, 2008, 04:03:00 PM
Blu Ray isn't only sony, lol. Its developed by sony with philips and i don't know if there where others.
Post by: warmaster_670 on February 19, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
Post by: sunn02 on February 19, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
"Simonis dismissed the notion that Sony might be uncomfortable with Microsoft joining the Blu-ray camp. Some say that it's unlikely that Sony would want Microsoft to put a Blu-ray drive in the Xbox - because then it would be an even bigger threat to the PS3. But Simonis said that Sony would not be able to stop such a move."
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Post by: leo5150 on February 19, 2008, 04:07:00 PM
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Post by: frieko on February 19, 2008, 04:34:00 PM
QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ Feb 19 2008, 11:41 PM) 
...or they will file suit to force Sony to share, in much the same way many others sue MS for the same reasons on Windows compatibility.
This is why it's sometimes helpful to have no soul
Post by: Seina on February 19, 2008, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: bucko on February 19, 2008, 04:40:00 PM
Post by: 88 Ecko Unltd 88 on February 19, 2008, 04:49:00 PM
QUOTE(bucko @ Feb 19 2008, 06:16 PM)
Meh I think youl see them push Video Market Place and IPTV more than Blu-Ray. It will be a long time before you see Blu-Ray on the 360 I think, do you want them to rush an addon? With all the RROD issues i'd rather let them concentrate on that most (which they are thank god) than rushing out a Blu-Ray drive, perseids most households I know still collect DVD's.
totaly agree with you bucko
Post by: davinator456 on February 19, 2008, 05:52:00 PM
Post by: BasicAir on February 19, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
It really just boils down to MS wanting to make a Blu-ray addon or not. Recent articles have stated that MS likely already has one in the works and could potentially release it by May. I'd bet MS will release a Blu-ray player for the 360 but I'd bet it'll be sometime from August to December this year and not May as that's too soon to seem realistic.
Post by: Elemino on February 19, 2008, 07:02:00 PM
Let's think about this though. If there are a big percentage of people buying PS3's for bluray capability, what will happen if the 360 starts playing bluray? After all, the ONLY reason I bought my PS3 was to have a bluray player. If the 360 played bluray before now, I probably would not own a PS3 at all.
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Post by: HackMy360 on February 19, 2008, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: HotKnife420 on February 19, 2008, 07:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Elemino @ Feb 20 2008, 03:38 AM)
Once again I will say, Sony & MS had relations LONG before the PS and Xbox came about. This is no different. I'm betting that Sony will do what they did to the PS3 again... sacrifice it's advantage for the success of their new HD format. They threw it under the bus to guarantee blu-ray's success, and they'll surely make the deal with MS cuz a collaborative effort could push them well into the homes of many potential buyers.
Let's think about this though. If there are a big percentage of people buying PS3's for bluray capability, what will happen if the 360 starts playing bluray? After all, the ONLY reason I bought my PS3 was to have a bluray player. If the 360 played bluray before now, I probably would not own a PS3 at all.
Won't be much of a hard decision for Sony. Someone who already has a 360, but doesn't want to spend a lot to enjoy BDs would be able to do so. Someone who doesn't own a PS3 or 360 will still be spending about the same on a 360 + BD preph ($350 + $1XX) vs. PS3 ($400). Someone who has a budget and a 360 will more than likely trade their 360 in if they want a PS3, and a 360 isn't exactly something that's easy to part with, so a BD add-on would be more of a win-win for everyone.
Post by: eduardor2k on February 19, 2008, 08:10:00 PM
MS only needs to buy the licence and nothing else.
Nowadays, they put everything they find on the net on the front page, even if its a comment of a john doe.
Post by: shodanjr_gr on February 19, 2008, 09:02:00 PM
I mean, having insider info is all well and good, but sensationalizing news like this goes over the top...
Post by: Arch0n on February 19, 2008, 09:32:00 PM
QUOTE(leo5150 @ Feb 20 2008, 12:43 AM)
The person who wrote the article is a ASSCLOWN the BLU-RAY group allready said they would welcome them with open arms
QUOTE(davinator456 @ Feb 20 2008, 02:28 AM)
This guy is a moron
100% Agreed. The article is complete dribble and author has the business accumen of a 2 year old.Is this the same guy who has been quoted in front-page news before and who used to work for Microsoft 6 months before the launch of the 360 and regularly comes out with BS predictions and inside info not relevant and that can't be substantiated? Wouldn't surprise me if it is.
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... "On to HD-DVD v Blu-ray. MS opposed Blu-ray because Sony supported it, plain and simple. I was in the room when the decision was made. But they hedged their bets by making the Media player a plug in. They could very quickly have a Blue Ray external plug in just like the HD, if Sony will cooperate."
I doubt this dude was in the room let alone the building where any real decision making was made. boardroom does not equal engineering water-cooler.
"We hate Sony so lets leave" is not a profit building methodology. "BR Consortium won't license HDi over Java from us" is.
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"Therein lays the rub. MS, one of the worst co's to get info out of to make products compatible, needs Sony to help a competitor do just that - compete with a compatible product that depends on the competitor's intellectual protocol. Sony knows that they cannot justify charging MS a fee that is larger than any other customer. Sony wants to make Blu-Ray ubiquitous so they have shaved down fees as much as possible. So MS must get the same deal as everyone else."
Blah Blah fking Blah. Sony, Sony, Sony etc. SONY is ONE chaired member of the Consortium. This guy needs to grow up (and read my licensing comments above and below
) leo5150 has set the record straight ^^ as well.QUOTE
"What would you do now if you were Sony? The same thing MS has done over the years. Make the technology intentionally incompatible, withhold information, withhold support for design input to make it compatible, etc."
Tin-foil hats ON!
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"We'll see over the next few months. Either MS will come out with a Blu-ray player, or they will file suit to force Sony to share, in much the same way many others sue MS for the same reasons on Windows compatibility. It will be interesting to watch this unfold."
File suit LOL WTF for? they can license the product like everyone else. Hell, Toshiba may even join the Commitee once it returns to semiconductor work and from there it could even be elected to the board at some point. The only real requirements are working with the technology (and in it's semiconductor capacity Tosh could easily do this and develop BR componentry) and to pay the annual membership fee.
Meanwhile, microsoft will be left out in the cold a bit (in terms of what it is used to) but that is because their one hope of getting anything out of this dissappeared when Java was selected for implementing interactivity. They didn't have any patents to conrtib to the security side and aren't involved with the physical engineering so they weren't going to ever get royalties for the players without their software.
However, in that way, they were never /are no worse off thany any other major OEM wanting to build and sell BR stuff.
Post by: tutu on February 20, 2008, 07:35:00 AM
I think they need to do something soon. Blu-Ray won, which means there is one less reason to wait to adapt the format. People will be looking at the PS3 as the best option (upgradeable, cheaper). So I hope they don't wait long.
Post by: HughDaHand on February 20, 2008, 09:56:00 AM
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