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Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: Xbox-Scene on February 13, 2007, 11:05:00 AM
HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Posted by XanTium | February 13 13:05 EST
 
From engadget.com:
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Those cooky kids over at the Doom9 forums hate themselves some DRM. Not more than two months after discovering a means to extract the HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc "volume keys" to decrypt AACS DRM on individual films, we're now getting word that DRM hacker arnezami has found the "processing key" used to decrypt the DRM on all HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc films. Let's break this down for what it is: instead of needing individual keys for each and every high-definition film -- of which there are many -- the processing key can be used to unlock, decrypt, and backup every HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc film released so far.

Full Story: engadget.com and doom9.org

Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: kowrip on February 13, 2007, 10:21:00 AM


Very nice !  That'll teach them to keep throwing DRM at us.  Way to go !

Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: Illithid on February 13, 2007, 10:28:00 AM
Lovely news!
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Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: JUANVAN on February 13, 2007, 10:41:00 AM
While it was expected, the speed that it was done matches that of the release of a Wii modchip.

Amazing
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Post by: DMAddict on February 13, 2007, 11:03:00 AM
LMAO. Let's just hope the prices drop as fast as the hacks have come out.
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Post by: ThaCrip on February 13, 2007, 11:18:00 AM
this is nice and all... but the thing is as of now it dont really matter if hddvd etc can be cracked since it's still far to expensive to backup your hd-dvd's to recordable media anyways.

as far im conserned... standard dvd's are still far better than hd-dvd's are overall.
Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: 0794 on February 13, 2007, 11:42:00 AM
QUOTE(ThaCrip @ Feb 13 2007, 12:25 PM) View Post

this is nice and all... but the thing is as of now it dont really matter if hddvd etc can be cracked since it's still far to expensive to backup your hd-dvd's to recordable media anyways.

as far im conserned... standard dvd's are still far better than hd-dvd's are overall.


nobody says that you have to back it up to recordable media...

all the DVDs that I buy only make it to my PC and then are distributed all over the house on my network to every media room...


I am glad to see that these "protection scams" have been cracked so that we can use and protect our purchased media as the consumer sees fit.
Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: MickRaider on February 13, 2007, 11:48:00 AM
Everytime someone says unbreakable these days I always have to laugh.
Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: the_jepper on February 13, 2007, 11:53:00 AM
QUOTE(MickRaider @ Feb 13 2007, 07:55 PM) View Post

Everytime someone says unbreakable these days I always have to laugh.


the xbox 360 kernel is still not broken though...

it will be broken in time but nobody knows how long it will take...
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Post by: DanITman on February 13, 2007, 11:54:00 AM
QUOTE(MickRaider @ Feb 13 2007, 01:55 PM) View Post

Everytime someone says unbreakable these days I always have to laugh.


No one has been successful in breaking DirecTV's encryption on their P4 or P5 cards.

Hackers have tried and still no success.  The last time DirecTV was hacked was in 2003.
Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: Mike Bowler on February 13, 2007, 11:57:00 AM
i must confess that even though i expected it to be beaten i am impressed with the speed as to which it was beaten.

And to the guy who says its too expensive to backup hd media then perhaps you should consider the fact that it being so expensive to buy the original makes it worthwhile to backup, then at least you'll have your original to re-backup once your original backup gets ruined. And if that doesn't suit you then wait till the prices drop.
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Post by: ProphetOfPain on February 13, 2007, 11:57:00 AM
QUOTE(DanITman @ Feb 13 2007, 08:01 PM) View Post

No one has been successful in breaking DirecTV's encryption on their P4 or P5 cards.

Hackers have tried and still no success.  The last time DirecTV was hacked was in 2003.


True, but they started focusing attention on Dishnet and FTA.  Same programming, why bother?  But I get your point about it.  Simply not hacked, but FTA is.
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Post by: Mike Bowler on February 13, 2007, 12:21:00 PM
i realise that, why take the hard way when you got the software to help you do it the easy way .. but don't forget that when codes for dvds were first revealed they got changed in newer dvds but since then not much has been done :)
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Post by: DanITman on February 13, 2007, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Mike Bowler @ Feb 13 2007, 02:28 PM) View Post

i realise that, why take the hard way when you got the software to help you do it the easy way .. but don't forget that when codes for dvds were first revealed they got changed in newer dvds but since then not much has been done smile.gif


Actually lots has been done.  In the beginning the keys were exposed.  Then they moved to brute forceing the keys since the encryption was minimal.  Now the actual decrypting processes of DVD's has been reverse engineered and any DVD can be unlocked.  Now the industry has turned to other forms of disc protection to try and circumvent DVD copying (Sony ARCOS).

Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: Mike Bowler on February 13, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
ok lol i stand corrected, but earlier i was thinking that changing the protection scheme would bring compatibility issues in the later years of an optical media, but of course in the very early stages you have the chance to experiment which is why its best to wait till the later years.
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Post by: throwingks on February 13, 2007, 12:37:00 PM
This is good news, cause now studios can't say 1 format's protection is better than the other. Just 1 less thing for the "war" to be fought over.
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Post by: PedrosPad on February 13, 2007, 01:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Mike Bowler @ Feb 13 2007, 09:04 PM) View Post

And to the guy who says its too expensive to backup hd media then perhaps you should consider the fact that it being so expensive to buy the original makes it worthwhile to backup, then at least you'll have your original to re-backup once your original backup gets ruined. And if that doesn't suit you then wait till the prices drop.


With 500GB HDDs for ~£100 (and these are  'UK' prices!), backing up isn't as expensive as it used to be.  I stopped burning stuff to DVD/CD media ages ago - I valued my time more.  Now I simply pick up another external USB HDD. - got a wardrobe full of 'em now   cool.gif
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Post by: Mike Bowler on February 13, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
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With 500GB HDDs for ~£100 (and these are 'UK' prices!), backing up isn't as expensive as it used to be. I stopped burnng stuff to DVD/CD media ages ago - I valued my time more. Now I simply pick up another external USB HDD. - got a wardrobe full of 'em now cool.gif
i live in the uk and love pcs i got 2 and a laptop. and i keep an eye on hardware prices quite a lot especially hds of which i have several and i quite agree that backing up isn't expensive but buying hd-dvd or blu-ray media may well turn out expensive which is the whole of backing up such media in the first place so you don't spend a fortune constantly replacing them anyway lol am not trying to argue here am just making a point smile.gif  smile.gif

 

edit: changed post icon, i managed to select one by accident originally .... note to self lay off the alcohol

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Post by: bourke on February 13, 2007, 04:22:00 PM
One key to rule them all and in the darkness bind them!
?9 F9 11 ?2 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C?

That's been my signature on Xbox forums for two days now.. no-one has noticed LOL!


I'm going to make some T-shirts depicting the AACS decryption diagram and that signature if anyone is interested?

Cheers,
Bourkie
Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: bourke on February 13, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
QUOTE(poisonousjuice @ Feb 14 2007, 08:19 AM) View Post


this is already a possibility.  WMV-HD rips are floating around the internet already that are 4.5 and 9 gigs.


And SlySoft just released a new version of AnyDVD-HD that can decrypt and re-author HD-DVDs!
Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: mlmadmax on February 13, 2007, 07:48:00 PM
This is good news, can't wait until a program like dvdfab decryper comes out for HDDVD and BLU-RAY tongue.gif
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Post by: hawkolugy on February 13, 2007, 11:47:00 PM
QUOTE(mlmadmax @ Feb 14 2007, 03:55 AM) View Post

This is good news, can't wait until a program like dvdfab decryper comes out for HDDVD and BLU-RAY tongue.gif


QUOTE(bourke @ Feb 14 2007, 12:56 AM) View Post

And SlySoft just released a new version of AnyDVD-HD that can decrypt and re-author HD-DVDs!


Pretty close i would say...this is cool even though I dont have Blu-Ray or HD-DVD
Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: DanITman on February 14, 2007, 06:42:00 AM
QUOTE(poisonousjuice @ Feb 13 2007, 04:19 PM) View Post

this is already a possibility.  WMV-HD rips are floating around the internet already that are 4.5 and 9 gigs.


I'm aware that it is possible but it is currently being done with commercial tools.  Right now there is no free solution to come to this result.  It's not as easy as using DVD Shrink.
Title: HD DVD and Blu-ray 'processing key' - all HD titles now exposed
Post by: Deihmos on February 14, 2007, 01:14:00 PM
QUOTE(sp1200 @ Feb 14 2007, 05:28 AM) View Post

If I was Nintendo, MS, Sony and the stakeholders of Bluray and HD, I'd be asking for a refund from the people who worked on the security for said systems.


Actually the blame should be on the playback software on the PC. If they keep these kind of software from the PC none of these things woul dbe possible. But they got the keys from Cyberlink I suspect so they would get the blame.