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Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: mike2355 on November 10, 2006, 12:31:00 PM
i have the same problem.. but i dont no if i was ever able to connect b4 my softmod since i didnt hae highspeed until later..  do you have to shut the mod off to even set up the account?
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: quank1half on November 10, 2006, 04:41:00 PM
I thought that if you booted to the MS Dash...the softmod does not kick on and it should work just as a normal xbox.  Unless there's some special boot method...I have an option to Go to MS Dashboard in my mod.  I tried that way.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: mike2355 on November 10, 2006, 06:48:00 PM
how do you shut the softmod off so you can go on xbox live and not get banned?
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 11, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
QUOTE(mike2355 @ Nov 10 2006, 08:55 PM) View Post

how do you shut the softmod off so you can go on xbox live and not get banned?

 coldboot a game.  turn on the xbox with the game you want to play on live already in the drive.   then you can play on live.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 12, 2006, 11:31:00 AM
QUOTE(mike2355 @ Nov 12 2006, 01:24 PM) View Post

i dont get it, what do you mean coldboot?  and can you explain it in more detail?



coldboot="turn on the xbox with the game you want to play on live already in the drive."

I don't think I can go into any more detail...
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: sidewinder33 on November 12, 2006, 01:05:00 PM
I believe he is asking turn it on with the eject button or the power button as both turn the console on. He's asking bc I couldn't remember which one would cold boot. I always get confused bc when i power on with my eject button I go to my chip os and then boot the retail bios smile.gif
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 12, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
QUOTE(sidewinder33 @ Nov 12 2006, 03:12 PM) View Post

I believe he is asking turn it on with the eject button or the power button as both turn the console on. He's asking bc I couldn't remember which one would cold boot. I always get confused bc when i power on with my eject button I go to my chip os and then boot the retail bios smile.gif



You obviously don't know what "coldboot" means either.  Coldboot means starting the xbox with a retail game in the disk drive.  That is "coldbooting" the game.  If someone tells me to coldboot Halo2,  I put Halo2 in the drive, turn it off, and turn it back on (via power button).  That is coldbooting.

Turning on with the eject button will go xbox Live dash (with most softmods) and turning on with no game and the power button goes to the modded dash.  Neither of those have anything to do with the word "coldbooting".

I'm guessing "bc" means "because"?  Actually I couldn't understand the last part of your comment at all, you "go to [your] chip os and then boot the retail bios"?  What the fuck?
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: ade_dnb on November 12, 2006, 02:11:00 PM
QUOTE(N3LDAN @ Nov 12 2006, 08:28 PM) View Post

I'm guessing "bc" means "because"?  Actually I couldn't understand the last part of your comment at all, you "go to [your] chip os and then boot the retail bios"?  What the fuck?


I think if you go to the MS dash from your modded dash then the exploit will still be running and you will be banned if you go online.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 12, 2006, 02:16:00 PM
QUOTE(ade_dnb @ Nov 12 2006, 04:18 PM) View Post

I think if you go to the MS dash from your modded dash then the exploit will still be running and you will be banned if you go online.


I dunno, he said "bios" not dash.  Maybe he's talking about the phoenix bios loader or something?

By the way, your signature should read "[...] your question would have been answered now".  The reason it sounds like "of" is because people often say "would've".
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 12, 2006, 04:39:00 PM
QUOTE(mike2355 @ Nov 12 2006, 06:37 PM) View Post

so many different tips... what exactly do i have to do? and i wont get banned right?



NO THERE AREN'T SO MANY TIPS.  THERE IS ONE FUCKIN WAY TO DO THIS, I ALREADY SPELLED IT OUT FOR YOU.

QUOTE
coldboot="turn on the xbox with the game you want to play on live already in the drive."

I don't think I can go into any more detail...


Just coldboot the fuckin' game and you'll be fine, don't listed to these stupid fuckers who go way off topic and confuse the hell out of simple minded folk like you.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 12, 2006, 05:01:00 PM
QUOTE(mike2355 @ Nov 12 2006, 07:03 PM) View Post

lol  i just want to make sure before i soft mod my buddies xbox since he plays on live and i dont want to fuck up his account...  so you cold boot with a retail game by putting it in, powering off and then powering on? and you cant do this with a backed up game right?



I told you how to coldboot.  Like 6 times.  Retails only.  Stock hard drive only (if he's played on live before).
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 13, 2006, 01:48:00 PM
QUOTE(mike2355 @ Nov 13 2006, 03:37 PM) View Post

ya he plays on live now, i just want to make sure he can do it before i mod his.. so all he has to do is put the retail game that he wants to play on live, in the drive, shut off the xbox then boot it back up by pressing the power button and then he can log onto live with no problem?


Yes, yes, yes, for the ninth time.  Would you like me to say it again?  Yes.

Another tip is to have the modded dash(es) change the status LED color, so you will know if you are in retail (green light) or modded (orange or red, most dashes let you choose).  That way you know to only go on live is the light is green smile.gif

Yeah, as long as you don't upgrade the hard drive he will be fine.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: sidewinder33 on November 13, 2006, 01:57:00 PM
QUOTE(N3LDAN @ Nov 12 2006, 02:28 PM) View Post

I'm guessing "bc" means "because"?  Actually I couldn't understand the last part of your comment at all, you "go to [your] chip os and then boot the retail bios"?  What the fuck?


You obviously have no idea about Xenium chips, they have an operating system on them. You can boot to it (via the eject button) and choose what bios you want to boot. I have two, the stock bios and m8_plus bios. When I boot my stock bios, my chip turns off and boots as if my xbox was stock, when I choose my m8 bios i go to XBMC which is my dash, simple enough? Modchips allow you to do so much more, easier than softmods, why anyone would want to use softmods is beyond me.  

You really should calm down, and be a bit mature about helping people. Everyone starts somewhere, and yelling at them bc you confuse them doesn't make it right to yell. Being condescending is no way to go through life.  

And yes mike is he coldboots he is fine to go online. It essentially disables the mod and runs stock, till its rebooted again.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 13, 2006, 02:14:00 PM
QUOTE(sidewinder33 @ Nov 13 2006, 04:04 PM) View Post

You obviously have no idea about Xenium chips, they have an operating system on them. You can boot to it (via the eject button) and choose what bios you want to boot. I have two, the stock bios and m8_plus bios. When I boot my stock bios, my chip turns off and boots as if my xbox was stock, when I choose my m8 bios i go to XBMC which is my dash, simple enough? Modchips allow you to do so much more, easier than softmods, why anyone would want to use softmods is beyond me.  

You really should calm down, and be a bit mature about helping people. Everyone starts somewhere, and yelling at them bc you confuse them doesn't make it right to yell. Being condescending is no way to go through life.  

And yes mike is he coldboots he is fine to go online. It essentially disables the mod and runs stock, till its rebooted again.



No, I have very little understanding of any modchip other than as far as I'm concerned it's a waste of time and money, not worth the risk.  I never said I did, I never said you were wrong, I just said I didn't understand what you were trying to say.  Honestly I don't think I confused him, you came in and started rambling off topic and uses bizarre abreviations.  By posting without proofreading (you actually said "He's asking [because] I can't remember which one would cold boot ") and going pretty far off topic talking about your modchip.  You used the term he was asking about, "coldboot" in a way that made your lack of understanding for the term evident, and at the very least managed to confuse the hell out of me and ade_dnb, and probably mike2355.  I wasn't trying to be condescending to him, I was just saying that having all these unfamiliar and unrelated terms thrown at him at the same time could easily confuse him, especially considering his newbie status.

Now that we've hijacked some poor kids thread for no reason other than disagreeing on how one should talk with another (and your off topic mentions of a modchip) can we get back to quank1half's original question?


quank1half: can you acces the internet from a modded dash? It seems like it's not a hardware issues (considering you can ping your xbox just fine), try connecting to the internet from xbmc.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: sidewinder33 on November 13, 2006, 02:57:00 PM
QUOTE(quank1half @ Nov 9 2006, 08:33 PM) View Post

So, I recently softmodded my box.  Before then, I had no problems connecting through my router to access xbox live.  I didn't have a live account but i was able to connect through a friends account no problem.  So now I'm trying to set up my own...on my softmodded box.  I get network errors.  Cables are connect properly, ports opened, upnp turned off, manually set my xbox IP.  I can ping it just fine from my computer, but I cannot connect to live to activate a new account.  Any clues?  Is this a softmod related issue?  I'm getting horribly frustrated.

Keeping your settings set to auto should help to if you are running a DHCP network. It takes away the possibility that another device has been assigned the same ip.

More than likely when you modded your system your retail bios were tweaked, if you run the network troubleshooter and wait for it to finish push y to view your xbox status codes, if you post them here it should give me an idea if its your bios or not, since live is very picky about "stock." Usually in the transition the eeprom is tweaked. How? we aren't quite sure but it is an all to common problem, the good news is there is an easy fix for it if the problem is eeprom related. Like I said just post your codes and we'll see.  

QUOTE(N3LDAN @ Nov 12 2006, 02:28 PM) View Post

You obviously don't know what "coldboot" means either.  Coldboot means starting the xbox with a retail game in the disk drive.  That is "coldbooting" the game.  If someone tells me to coldboot Halo2,  I put Halo2 in the drive, turn it off, and turn it back on (via power button).  That is coldbooting.

Turning on with the eject button will go xbox Live dash (with most softmods) and turning on with no game and the power button goes to the modded dash.  Neither of those have anything to do with the word "coldbooting".

I'm guessing "bc" means "because"?  Actually I couldn't understand the last part of your comment at all, you "go to [your] chip os and then boot the retail bios"?  What the fuck?

^I never claimed to know exactly what the term coldboot meant, but thank you for explaining it so clearly, along with the other booting options for a softmodded xbox, I learn something new everyday

QUOTE(N3LDAN @ Nov 12 2006, 05:46 PM) View Post

NO THERE AREN'T SO MANY TIPS.  THERE IS ONE FUCKIN WAY TO DO THIS, I ALREADY SPELLED IT OUT FOR YOU.
Just coldboot the fuckin' game and you'll be fine, don't listed to these stupid fuckers who go way off topic and confuse the hell out of simple minded folk like you.

^ Now I'm not sure but typing in caps and using a lot of profanity could be taken as acting arrogant, and then the last few words confirm it.

QUOTE(N3LDAN @ Nov 13 2006, 02:55 PM) View Post

Yes, yes, yes, for the ninth time.  Would you like me to say it again?  Yes.

^ Im sure you only meant to say yes once, so you wouldn't seem condescending to someone just asking a question.

QUOTE(N3LDAN @ Nov 13 2006, 03:21 PM) View Post

No, I have very little understanding of any modchip other than as far as I'm concerned it's a waste of time and money, not worth the risk.  I never said I did, I never said you were wrong, I just said I didn't understand what you were trying to say.  Honestly I don't think I confused him, you came in and started rambling off topic and uses bizarre abreviations.  By posting without proofreading (you actually said "He's asking [because] I can't remember which one would cold boot ") and going pretty far off topic talking about your modchip.  You used the term he was asking about, "coldboot" in a way that made your lack of understanding for the term evident, and at the very least managed to confuse the hell out of me and ade_dnb, and probably mike2355.  I wasn't trying to be condescending to him, I was just saying that having all these unfamiliar and unrelated terms thrown at him at the same time could easily confuse him, especially considering his newbie status.


Mike and myself had been discussing a similar problem (coldbooting) in a different topic. That is why I clarified his question since you were to  arrogant to ask him to clarify. Last time I checked bc wasn't all that bizarre for BeCause but I don't know thats just me, I mean, I could have meant Boston College or British Columbia, but those don't seem related to xbox in anyway, so it must be the obvious answer. Talking about my modchip was clarifying, once again to you, that i have little to no experience with softmods, but that I knew that they could coldboot but since i was unfamiliar with them i was not sure of the exact procedure to coldboot. I do have to say, after reading over you posts you don't seem to be condescending, you just seem to be a jackass with little patience.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 13, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
I think sayimg I'm a jackass with little patience pretty much sums me up.

Except that I'm not really a jackass, I just hate it when people go off topic in forums, abreviate things/typ lik ths (serious pet peeve, though you didn't do bad in that are), and offer advice that is either incorrect or extremely confusing.

Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: sidewinder33 on November 13, 2006, 03:35:00 PM
Well I am truly sorry that we got sideways, but one of my pet peeves is when people get in a hurry to explain stuff and expect people to just learn it right away. Hell I usually need exact steps the first time to understand stuff. But you are correct I should have clarified that Mike and I were previously discussing the subject to make it clear to everyone else so my comments would not have seemed to tangential. But I am glad that you explained it to me, now I know the different ways of booting a softmodded xbox.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on November 13, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
yeah I tend to be extremely impatient, but whatever, mike's set now we just need to help mr. 2 posts get his xbox working... as if he still checks this thread after we made it a war zone and then drama central.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: sidewinder33 on November 13, 2006, 04:03:00 PM
HAHAH No Shit, quank is probably surprised that his question could spark so much crap slinging. Now we play the waiting game.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: Alex548 on November 13, 2006, 05:08:00 PM
QUOTE(quank1half @ Nov 9 2006, 06:33 PM) View Post

So, I recently softmodded my box.  Before then, I had no problems connecting through my router to access xbox live.  I didn't have a live account but i was able to connect through a friends account no problem.  So now I'm trying to set up my own...on my softmodded box.  I get network errors.  Cables are connect properly, ports opened, upnp turned off, manually set my xbox IP.  I can ping it just fine from my computer, but I cannot connect to live to activate a new account.  Any clues?  Is this a softmod related issue?  I'm getting horribly frustrated.


Boot your xbox to an unmodded state (if you're using Ndure) or remove the softmod completely (if you're using an older softmod package), then create your xbox live account. . . done.

If using an older softmod (pre Ndure), you must remove the softmod completely so your xbox can access xbox live to create the account. Once you've created the account, you can go ahead and re-softmod the xbox. To access xbox live from the older softmods, just coldboot your game and you're done.  

The reason you can't create an XBL account when your xbox is softmodded is because the softmod automatically blocks the connection to xbox live (to prevent you from getting banned).


Such a simple answer yet this thread went 2 pages?  blink.gif
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: mike2355 on November 14, 2006, 05:58:00 PM
upp
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: sidewinder33 on November 22, 2006, 06:57:00 PM
You need to cold boot. Put a game in, then turn your xbox off. Power it on with the power button (not the eject button) and let the game boot up. Once it gets to its menu eject the disc to get to the Stock Ms dash with the stock bios running. This is also how you will boot when you want to play on live.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: sidewinder33 on December 02, 2006, 04:08:00 PM
Do you know if when they installed the softmod, if they removed your original MS dash? or used the defaulst.xbe as the name of the Evox xbe? Im not to much of a wiz about softmods but usually they leave both the stock bios and stock dash on so you can go on live if you wish so. But since it just boots to the Evox dash, just me guessing here, but they might have either gotten rid of your stock bios or the stock dash. If I'm right, I don't know others here maybe in the softmod section can give you a hand on getting that straightened out.
Title: Live & Softmod
Post by: N3LDAN on December 02, 2006, 08:04:00 PM
with the most common install, you can get to the XBOX live dash by turning on the xbox by opening the dvd drive.