QUOTE(STICKY_BUD @ Mar 12 2005, 11:43 AM - parts)
so i guess that means this xbox had not been on live since the latest dash update which i think was in november, right?
the mfg date is 10/2004
i have not looked into the xbox live settings codes for either console with an ethernet cable because i am unsure if that makes marriage
Your 5960 dash update very probably (but not certainly) means it's not been on XBL since the HDD tracking started. 
Hmm ... that mfg date doesn't jive with the 4034 kernel version.
(It's possible that connecting without signing-on might track something eh.)