Post by: CloakedHunter on November 02, 2004, 09:03:00 AM
This thread is a branch from the disastrous forty page thread in this forum, and the following procedure is basically the primary solution derived from that entire thread. So, if you are still unable to become unbanned from Xbox Live, test the following procedure. If you follow these steps EXACTLY, you should be able to become unbanned from Xbox Live!
1. Acquire and install a new unbanned HDD.
2. Format the HDD and install the retail MS Dashboard using Slayers 2.6.
3. Acquire and install a new unbanned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic.
4. Register a new Xbox Live account using a different GT. (CRITICAL!!!)
You do not have to do step four if and only if you are installing an unbanned stock HDD.
Do not copy anything directly from your old HDD. Install all software fresh and copy any saved games using a memory card.
If you test the above procedure, try to follow the steps EXACTLY. If you cannot, note what you did differently. After completing the above procedure, be sure to post your detailed test results. If you were able to follow the steps exactly, be sure to vote above indicating success or failure.
And lastly, GOOD LUCK!!!
This post has been edited by CloakedHunter: Nov 10 2004, 02:32 AM
Post by: miggidy on November 02, 2004, 10:44:00 AM
Everyone,
this procedure has proven to be the only solution thus far.
4 people tried it and IT WORKS!
Noob's, give this method a try....
Post by: exiva on November 02, 2004, 10:42:00 AM
Post by: deresDK on November 02, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
plese explain how?
any tutorial here?
Post by: exiva on November 02, 2004, 01:31:00 PM
Post by: blacksonic on November 02, 2004, 05:32:00 PM
, *for the good of cause*. ill do it probaly by this sat,or sun i get my paycheck on fridaycan someone list eeprom sellers that never sell eeproms twice thanks
Post by: A.Z.BEST on November 03, 2004, 07:18:00 AM
.Test it!
And copy some stuff into the 1st post from my thread, Cloaked. I think it could be a good idea to make this thread clear version of my mess
.
Post by: bbanka on November 03, 2004, 07:45:00 AM
1,2,3. I know the theory "GT is flaged" is believable but I don't wanna change old
GT. Is there any good method going back to XBL without doing procedure 4.
Is there any post about that? If you have a result about the test(going back to XBL
excepr for procedure 4) let me know.
thank you.
Post by: marcomanni on November 03, 2004, 01:40:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| going back to XBL excepr for procedure 4 excepr for procedure 4) let me know. |
This is the true test.
Post by: exiva on November 03, 2004, 03:27:00 PM
Post by: kyle! on November 03, 2004, 04:09:00 PM
Post by: heinrich on November 03, 2004, 04:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (kyle! @ Nov 3 2004, 09:12 PM) |
| I tried the second one, with no sucess too... |
the 2nd one?
The idea is to follow all 4, not pick and choose.
edit: typo
Post by: cavenger3 on November 03, 2004, 04:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (kyle! @ Nov 3 2004, 07:12 PM) |
| I tried the second one, with no sucess too... |
Can you clarify what you mean by this statement?
Post by: hybridstorm on November 03, 2004, 04:43:00 PM
Im pretty sure that you can use your old gamertag since I was told that I could when my xbox was banned by someone at MS.
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 03, 2004, 04:50:00 PM
nice to have this info in one place, rather than spread over 6 threads and almost 100 pages.
Post by: warbeast on November 03, 2004, 05:08:00 PM
are they only baning drives that have been banned along with the eeproms or are they also keeping a database with all hard drives and eeproms that are being used on live
so if i was to buy a new hdd or take a normal drive from a new xbox
and then try that hdd with another eeprom that has also not been banned but used on live will they know i've swapped still
This post has been edited by warbeast: Nov 4 2004, 01:10 AM
Post by: GamezMan on November 03, 2004, 07:25:00 PM
Mod\s please make this a sticky !!!
Post by: exiva on November 03, 2004, 07:48:00 PM
it looks as if gamer tags are NOT tagged by MS, i am back on XBL
This post has been edited by exiva: Nov 4 2004, 03:51 AM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 03, 2004, 10:46:00 PM
First of all, when we tell you that you must register a new GT to install a non-stock HDD, listen to us! We are right! If you think we are wrong, then PROVE us wrong!
Now, let me explain what we believe is happening with the GTs.
When your Xbox is banned from Xbox Live, MS is BANNING your EEPROM, BANNING your HDD, and FLAGGING your GT. Keep in mind that MS is NOT BANNING your GT, they are FLAGGING it. There is a huge difference!
Everyone with me? Good.
By flagging your GT, MS knows you have been previously banned, and will begin performing more extensive tests on any Xbox connecting with that GT, to determine if it has been modded. Part of these extensive tests is MS checking to see if you have a stock HDD installed. If you don't, then you're banned.
At this point, you're probably asking why MS isn't doing this for all GTs, instead of just certain GTs. I'll tell you. MS has just developed this banning system, and it is far from fully tested. The last thing MS wants to do is accidentally ban a clean Xbox. So for now, they're just running the extensive tests on Xboxes connecting with the flagged GTs. If this is the case, we can all expect it to change in the near future, which will suck beyond all recognition.
In summary, this means that your flagged GT will work in a clean Xbox, but not in a modded Xbox with a non-stock HDD for example.
Now, before you start posting random thoughts, make sure you understand what I just said. If you don't, start from the beginning and read it again. Repeat until every word is memorized. Then, read it twelve more times and you may post.
Let me remind you that none of this is necessarily 100% correct. It is nothing more than what we, or more specifically, I, believe is happening with the flagged GTs. The purpose of this post is to get people thinking slightly deeper into what MS is doing. So please, think before submitting arbitrary posts.
Post by: dafuzzbudd on November 04, 2004, 09:52:00 AM
Now with this whole eeprom/fresh hard drive swap.. what's keeping ms from knowing your mobo serial and banning you from that?
p.s. i dunno at all if this helps but i heard keep your GT on a mem card only
This post has been edited by dafuzzbudd: Nov 4 2004, 05:59 PM
Post by: jvanepps on November 04, 2004, 10:06:00 AM
Post by: GamezMan on November 04, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Nov 4 2004, 07:42 AM) |
| ........... At this point, you're probably asking why MS isn't doing this for all GTs, instead of just certain GTs. I'll tell you. MS has just developed this banning system, and it is far from fully tested............ |
Also to add to that, m$ know there are thousands of ppl with chipped xboxs who DONT GO LIVE WITH CHIPP ON (of which we are, just that we messed up once), and these ppl (us) buy "REAL" games to go live with so they dont want to ban all these ppl and lose mo-money.... (apart from those who messed up = us )
AND YEAH this post is correct in how to get back on and what it say about "flagging GT" and not Banning" ,,, this is no theory is it now a fact and a solution that works ...
Post by: Bohefus on November 04, 2004, 06:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (exiva @ Nov 4 2004, 12:23 AM) |
| ill let you know tomorrow if gamer tags are tagged. I'm purchasing a new xbox tomorrow just for live. |
I've been banned on my GT 3 or 4 times and I've had no problems connecting to live with my new unmodded xbox. If they are flagging GT's I believe they have the ability to do a thorough check of the xbox your using and can tell if it's modded or not. Have there been any reports of banning unmodded boxes?
I've only used 1 GT
Post by: kj1424 on November 04, 2004, 06:27:00 PM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 04, 2004, 06:51:00 PM
Post by: madd russian on November 05, 2004, 02:27:00 AM
Post by: Fofer on November 05, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
This post has been edited by Fofer: Nov 5 2004, 04:17 PM
Post by: miggidy on November 05, 2004, 12:36:00 PM
I bet the cats who failed didn't follow the steps correctly. (that's why they're not posting, they've realized they screwed up)
I am amazed at the people who are asking questions that are already covered in your procedure. Hell they're still asking questions even after your clarification.
Damn, come on people? Read!
And if you're reading, focus is a good idea.
Geezuz.... And if you still don't get it,
then maybe you're not ready for xbox modding.
Cloaked,
I'm going to install a new hdd and use the eeprom you gave me, (thanx again) this weekend. Then on Tuesday, I'll create a new Live account.
I bet that everything will be ok, even after gettin banned last time.
This will underline the fact that if you follow this procedure correctly,
you'll be back on Live!
This post has been edited by miggidy: Nov 5 2004, 08:39 PM
Post by: the_bond on November 05, 2004, 12:45:00 PM
If it doesnt work then i'll get a new stock HDD. I would rather get unmodded xbox than getting a new GT.
Cheers..
Post by: GamezMan on November 05, 2004, 01:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (the_bond @ Nov 5 2004, 09:41 PM) |
| I m gonna test it for a while and then have a go with my old GT. |
NO NO NO
DONT DO THAT
Ask miggidy, after a week of geting back on live he tryed his old Gt an got banned within 24 hrs
Post by: smokeingit on November 05, 2004, 03:50:00 PM
i have 10 clean EEproms that have not been used... which makes me think this guy is partly correct about this... I dont think its a HD issue or a GT issue at all. because i changed the eeprom for my friend on his SPLIT TSOP and he yet has not been banned on xbox live. he has
1.0 split
4983.06 and 3944
160 WD
samsung
and my "tagged" GT account.
yet for the past 48 hours he has been able to play online while i was banned twice already.
~Smokey
Post by: poiygon on November 05, 2004, 05:25:00 PM
Post by: GamezMan on November 05, 2004, 08:17:00 PM
Post by: smokeingit on November 05, 2004, 08:45:00 PM
Post by: bbanka on November 06, 2004, 02:23:00 AM
1. Acquire and install a new unbanned HDD.
2. Format the HDD and install the retail MS Dashboard using Slayers 2.6.
3. Acquire and install a new unbanned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic.
4. Register a new Xbox Live account using a different GT.
I followed 4 steps by my own way.
1. I used original 8G HDD have never been banned before(and never been on XBL)
2. I used autoinstallar made by a friend of mine. that means I have a
evox dashborad on my 8g Hdd (position is F:) and original dash board
(position is C:) as well. and I transfer XBMC with using FTP program.
3. I changed unbaned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic.
4. I used my old GT. I didn't change it to new one.
the result is I'm ok so far(for 48 hours)
I have been banned 3 times before. however after I have followed ClokedHunter's
4 steps (exactly 3 steps)I'm ok until now. but I can't vote right now because It has just passed
only 48 hours. so I'll post again after this weekend gone . I'm not still convinced
clearly about this solution but I think there is a point changing HDD and eeprom.
thank you
This post has been edited by bbanka: Nov 6 2004, 10:25 AM
Post by: smokeingit on November 06, 2004, 07:48:00 AM
but anyways... i will now make the statement that it is the HD.
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 06, 2004, 09:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 6 2004, 08:44 AM) |
| well i can confirm now that it does have something to do with the large hard drive serial number. clokedHunter method was extreme in any case. he didnt take the time to make sure that what he was was the only way of getting back online. its like bombing every fucking cave in middle east to find the one the one that bin laden is in. but anyways... i will now make the statement that it is the HD. |
This post is pointed directly at 'smokeingit'.
Let me start by saying that you are a freakin' moron!
You join this forum two weeks late without reading a single post and start insulting people just because their post doesn't agree with the first random thought that enters your mind!
Let me now direct you to the forty page thread where I DIDN'T spend two weeks of my personal time analyzing 590 posts, and I DIDN'T write 80 posts only do develop this EXTREME solution to share with the rest of the community out of pure generosity! I have been unbanned for 252 hours using our solution and I DO NOT have to be here!
Take a look, not that you will, to the origins of this solution:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=293690
Keep in mind that this is not just my solution. There are many XS members who have also spent weeks crawling the forum to help arrive at this solution. So, if you require a second opinion to what I have said in this post, feel free to contact one of those members. Here are the primary analysts that have developed this solution: miggidy, GamezMan, A.Z.BEST®, Optimus
There is nothing wrong with you repeating our complete analysis to arrive at the same solution. Just stop sharing it with us! We've read it ALL before. You've already made a good start with your *extraordinary* HDD discovery!
Now STFU and stop posting until you have something constructive to post.
(1:1000000000000000 chance of his next post being constructive).
For the rest of the users on this forum, excuse this post. I find it necessary to cleanse the forum of filth. Continue testing and good luck!
Post by: GamezMan on November 06, 2004, 09:50:00 AM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 6 2004, 05:41 AM) |
| since it seems that game man didnt read my post, i have now installed a new eprom went online with it with the same 200 WD drive i have and am waiting to be banned. its been 3 hours since i changed the eprom changed and no banned yet. i will post my resaults tomorrow to shut most of you up. . |
Hey what post should i have read ??? i read what u said in that 40 page post but haven't seen ur own post ..
And if our way is corect u will get banned with in 48 hrs.. i do hope though that its wrong and u dont get banned but ppl have already tested this and got bannned .... so how long has it been now ??? are u shutting us up or are u shutting up ???
And bbanka, good to see it worked for u, u didn't need to do step 4 cus u have a stock hdd in,,, same as me, but if u put a bigger one in useing same GT u will get banned ..
Post by: smokeingit on November 06, 2004, 11:48:00 AM
2 things to look at. and i dont even think you know a thing about programing so here it is.
1.In the FAT file system, the 'Serial Number' is stored at offset 0x27 starting from the boot sector origin. if so then maybe its not the hard drive's serial just the volume serial.
2. changing serial number on the hard drive providing that i have one that can be changed...
so please shut the fuck up and do something to help me find a VB source since i cant do C. or dont say anything more you n00b.
update: something intresting.... my friend's xbox that i did a TSOP split and has a 160gig WD HD is still able to go online...
This post has been edited by smokeingit: Nov 6 2004, 08:00 PM
Post by: GamezMan on November 06, 2004, 12:54:00 PM
There many things we dont yet understand about the bannings and sh*t, and only in these kindda forums can it be figured out by vibing with each other and not fighting... get DOA online to sort this fight out and lets keep this about finding out the problems
smokeingit, what about ur test, did u get banned or what ???
And poiygon, what say you, did u get banned or u still on ???
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 06, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (GamezMan @ Nov 6 2004, 01:50 PM) |
| oH ooH the war has started. smokeingit, u did attack CloakedHunter 1st, and in his own thred... Any way i hope this thred dont turn out to be a slagin match ... |
Exactly! Which is why I would like to end this before it clutters the thread more than it already has. But first, I need to make a few points. First, this solution works. It is not the only solution, but when the steps are followed properly, it works. Second, I did not "take" this solution from anyone. This exact solution is the result of several tests and analysis completed by Miggidy and I.
Now, smokingit, ease up a little bit, and continue working on your idea about changing the HDD serial numbers. It would be a good idea to start a new thread about your idea, if you haven't already. It would give more attention to your idea, and leave more room in this thread for its original purpose.
And as I said before, if anyone thinks we're wrong, then PROVE us wrong!
Case closed and good luck!
Post by: kp84 on November 06, 2004, 02:57:00 PM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 06, 2004, 03:00:00 PM
Post by: kp84 on November 06, 2004, 03:04:00 PM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 06, 2004, 03:07:00 PM
Post by: kp84 on November 06, 2004, 03:19:00 PM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 06, 2004, 03:45:00 PM
Post by: kp84 on November 06, 2004, 03:54:00 PM
Post by: GamezMan on November 06, 2004, 04:40:00 PM
to CloakedHunter, it take Real Balls to say what u did and not continue the argument ...And kp84, yeah it should work ok, its only the v1.6 that need another v1.6 eeprom
-------
Edit
OOh and whats with the 5 failures ???? y'all talking sh*t, if it was u'd post and say ...
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 06, 2004, 05:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (GamezMan @ Nov 6 2004, 05:43 PM) |
| OOh and whats with the 5 failures ???? y'all talking sh*t, if it was u'd post and say ... |
Yeah, I was wondering about those five failures as well. Obviously just people who didn't follow the steps quite exact enough, especially because none of them posted with their results.
Post by: kp84 on November 06, 2004, 05:58:00 PM
Post by: TECbox on November 07, 2004, 01:20:00 PM
First banning was a stupid move by me. Chip was on, playing something from the HD, and was busying talking while the game was loading. Hit the screen that asked if I wanted to sign into xbox live, and clicked on through. Whoops. Banned. Fair enough, I did everything wrong.
Been reading through tons of these posts the last couple days.
New eeprom, New large HDD (Hitachi 160GB). Formated the partitions C, E, and F (nothing installed on F) Restored base files on C and E.
(From here on mod chip always was disabled) Recovered gamertag. Played PGR2, Rallisport 2 (downloaded free content), SW Battlefront, and ESPN NFL 2005 off and on yesterday. Was shutting down the xbox inbetween tests. I had did the recovery around 10am CDT, and last played online last night around 11pm CDT.
Logged on this morning and was banned.
Me thinks MS is processing some data back at the mothership overnight. Otherwise wouldnt you expect the second time I logged on the box would have been banned if it was the large hard drive or something? The only things not stock was the hard drive and the fact I had formatted the F.
*Note: orginial eeprom was v1.6 NTSC Region 1.
New one was v1.6 PAL Region 4.
Used ltools (xtools) and my xenium to convert the Game region to 1 and the video mode to NTSC.
Trying to decide course of actions: Have a second xbox, which has never been on live.
Recover gamertag and see what happens?
New gamertag and large (Seagate 200G) hard drive?
New gamertag and stock drive?
IMHO: I dont think they do anything to the gamertag, but who knows. Was hoping to be on Live with Halo 2 tomorrow night (or is that technically morning?).
Post by: kp84 on November 07, 2004, 03:26:00 PM
Post by: X-iRuZ on November 07, 2004, 03:50:00 PM
back in march i got a 2month free trial and got banned on my stock harddrive
since then ive got a new 120gb locked hardrive with the same eeprom
if i get a new eeprom tomorrow and use my friends gamertag to test if live works and i get banned does that also mean that when he uses his gamertag on his xbox again will get banned on his non-modded xbox
another question can i use an NTSC eeprom on a PAL xbox
thanks for any help
Post by: TECbox on November 07, 2004, 03:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (kp84 @ Nov 8 2004, 12:22 AM) |
| did u lock ur Hard drive? and i need to know if u get banned when there is extra files on the hard drive such as evox and homebrew software is any1 doing this who is unbanned with xbl working? |
hdd has to be locked to boot with mod chip off. second banning, didnt have anything extra on the drive.
Post by: X-iRuZ on November 07, 2004, 04:17:00 PM
Post by: neomits on November 07, 2004, 05:07:00 PM
Thanks for having a temp solution though. If no one is able to figure out what is causing it I'll probably give it a go in the next few weeks.
Post by: Inkarnate on November 07, 2004, 07:44:00 PM
Swapped the xbox for an unmodded one plus a bit of cash and aquired another stock xbox from a friend. So now i have 2 stock box's.
Recovered account on friends xbox 2 weeks ago and still on.
Next step is gunna be to mod and upgrade my new xbox and try and recover my account on it. So it's a brand new xbox, with a brand new chip, brand new hdd.
Anyone see any flaws in what i'm tryin?
Post by: neomits on November 07, 2004, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: solid7x2 on November 08, 2004, 05:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (Inkarnate @ Nov 8 2004, 04:40 AM) |
| Next step is gunna be to mod and upgrade my new xbox and try and recover my account on it. So it's a brand new xbox, with a brand new chip, brand new hdd. Anyone see any flaws in what i'm tryin? |
According to testing and theories of members of this forum, this will result in banning because of the larger hard drive. The collective thinking is that M$ checks for stock hard drive once your GT has been banned at least once. (however some poeple have done similar things and managed not to get re-banned, so you never know) If I was you and I really wanted to have a larger HD, i would buckle down and get a new GT.
Post by: TECbox on November 08, 2004, 06:36:00 AM
| QUOTE (X-iRuZ @ Nov 8 2004, 01:13 AM) |
| TEC what did u do to get your xbox unbanned 1st time round |
As I stated in my post, I got a new eeprom, and new hdd. But the unbanning only last for a day. MS must be getting something else off the xbox, or is something tied to the GT.
On my second xbox, I will sign up with a new GT once I finish off the single player campaign sometime tomorrow.
Post by: supernewbie on November 08, 2004, 07:14:00 AM
F drive. do u think ms could see something different with the hdd and ban me??? thanx in advance
Post by: Natooken on November 08, 2004, 08:12:00 AM
Post by: solid7x2 on November 08, 2004, 09:24:00 AM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 08, 2004, 10:09:00 AM
http://www.smartxx.com/news/modsonlive.jpg
Post by: X-iRuZ on November 08, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
correct me if im wrong
Post by: solid7x2 on November 08, 2004, 10:45:00 AM
Post by: the_bond on November 08, 2004, 12:05:00 PM
Now wat i did my HD was, got the old stock one out and formatted it with factory settings. C drive havin what it should have, E drive with default directories, CACHE (i guess), UDATA and TDATA. I got evoxdash.xbe on F drive and m booting it from that if the chip is switched on. I made sure that there wasnt anything suspecious saved on my saved games, so checked it using MS dash and removed it. Since i really wanted XBL i dont have anything on my F drive yet. i guess i would rather use swapping HD for my future use of applications. I might use my old eeprom again while doing that.
So far i m on and hopefully i'll stay on.
Cheers!!
Post by: qck on November 08, 2004, 04:02:00 PM
do i need to use slayer 2.6. I only have 2.0
Also i've never used any of the auto installers before. Do they do anything special or are they just easy to use?
Post by: GamezMan on November 08, 2004, 05:56:00 PM
X-iRuZ, as long as ur friiends GT has never been banned it will be fine...
| QUOTE |
| the_bond i never voted in this thread. It says that i have. |
Hey me too i was 1 of the 1st to get back online but i have not voted here but it says i have
Hey CloakedHunter, u need to edit ur 1st post, it seems ppl cant seem to see the part about u need a new GameTag IF ur putting in a big hdd and add a few more points ppl keep missing and in big letters so they cant miss it ...
qck try it, if u get a c and e and it all works ok like a none chipped xbox then it will work (back up ur current c and e just in case it dont work, )
Post by: kj1424 on November 08, 2004, 06:46:00 PM
I read all the stuff about GT and need a little more info on that...
Do i need to get a new accout i.e. pay more money for live...or how do I go about this...
Post by: Natooken on November 09, 2004, 01:18:00 PM
60 hours, extensive play through Live with Halo 2 (retail
).I Followed the steps EXACT, using the stock/old (banned 3 times) gamer tag.
NOTHING is on my HDD, I currently swap my HDD when I need too. Taking very damn safe precausions to prevent a ban. I'd just like to reiterate how following EVERY STEP OUTLINED will WORK. Getting Unbanned is not a pic and choose proccess anymore
.Thank you very much CloakedHunter, GamezMan, A.Z.BEST®, and miggidy.
Post by: StefanProdan on November 09, 2004, 01:47:00 PM
I have put a new EEPROM on it. It is the exact same hard drive that came witih the Xbox, but it does have Evox and some stuff on it.
I really really hope it won't get banned. I guess we'll see.
Post by: LunchboxDom on November 09, 2004, 04:32:00 PM
Post by: solid7x2 on November 09, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
I slayered It, but I get service error if i try to turn off mod chip
Im almost positive this is because the drive is not locked.
Are there some hard drives that cant be locked? pretty sure the answer is yes, some cant be locked, but looking for conformation.
Post by: miggidy on November 09, 2004, 07:17:00 PM
I have used this method for the second time and it worked again.
Well at least so far,
I've been on Live for 17 hours now and everything is working fine.
Just a recap, I got a hold of a new eeprom (thanx again Cloaked) and a new 120 gig WD HDD. And a new Live account....
I just took a break from some Halo2 deathmatch action to fill you guys in.
As for those who ask:
"What about me? I was banned in the past and got my xbox unbanned by using the old eeprom swap method and everything was working fine last time I checked. I since then closed my Xbox Live account, well before "ban day". I want to know if I'll get banned if I open a new account?"
Well peeps, I got a friend who's caught in this scenario.
Tonight he will open a new Live account, I'll let ya'll know how it goes....
Post by: Natooken on November 09, 2004, 07:37:00 PM
I say 90 becuase I can't recall if some did "fail" with the exact procedure or not.
Post by: shanafan on November 09, 2004, 07:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Nov 8 2004, 12:05 PM) |
| I found this link in another thread. I decided to post it here just because it agrees exactly to what I have been saying for the past three weeks. Just a little extra proof. http://www.smartxx.c.../modsonlive.jpg |
That article is really old
Post by: dfroot on November 09, 2004, 08:01:00 PM
Post by: golightning on November 09, 2004, 08:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (dfroot @ Nov 9 2004, 11:57 PM) |
| I just ordered a new harddrive from ebay for .99 cents. I will tell you guys if this method worked for me. It sounds like it should work, its more than likely overkill tho. Im sure in a matter of weeks we will be able to just change a certain file or serial in our HD that will fix the problem, but until then, nice work guys. I cant believe all of this was posted within a day of the incident. M$ aint got nothin on us. |
I sincerely hope so. I went to sign on today to play some Halo 2 multi (I have the retail copy) and found out I was banned
This sucks.
If anyone is curious, here is my setup and situation:
Xbox V1.0
120GB Maxtor drive
Xenium ICE
I only have 2 bioses - 4034 (original xbox bios)
and Xecuter 2 4983 (blocks live)
I had XBL with my old setup (non-modded box, stock HD), and despite the fact that I changed HD's, I've been able to sign in as recently as Sunday (to play ESPN NFL 2K5).
Damn you MS! I want my Halo 2!
Post by: MogKnight on November 09, 2004, 08:25:00 PM
Right now I have a WD2500 (250gigs) which was banned with the current eeprom. I also have the stock harddrive which I originally used to start my Xbox Live Account. So basically, if they did keep track of hard drives, I entered Xbox Live with my stock and my new one.
What I intend to do is aquire an eeprom for my Xbox, reformat the stock hard drive with the slayers disc (to retail of course). Then, with my one of my 2 Month Free Trials, create a new GT (with the same Credit Card info as my old GT mind you) and see where I go from there. I will transfer absolutely nothing from my old hard drive at all. I will try to make it as close to "unmodded" as I can. Maybe even rip out the modchip (good thing it's solderless) just to be extremely safe.
If anyone sees anything fishy that you know I'll fail, please tell me so I'll know. Once I hear some opinions about this, I guess I'll find someone who has a 1.1 unbanned eeprom lying about.
Post by: lazarus18 on November 09, 2004, 09:52:00 PM
-Rob
Post by: MogKnight on November 09, 2004, 11:48:00 PM
So many friggen factors... why not just leave us alone?
Post by: Kamakazie on November 10, 2004, 12:22:00 AM
Post by: otherguy on November 10, 2004, 01:25:00 AM
I'd be willing to part with them for $10 plus shipping.
Post by: ScoopyBadBoy on November 10, 2004, 01:51:00 AM
Post by: lazarus18 on November 10, 2004, 02:20:00 AM
-Rob
Post by: feet14 on November 10, 2004, 05:16:00 AM
| QUOTE (lazarus18 @ Nov 10 2004, 10:16 AM) |
| Well I bit the bullet and went with my original HD. So far so good. I reflashed eeprom, made a new gamertag and got online without incident. Others have reported getting back online only to be banned later, but I think that was all with the larger HD. We'll see how this goes, but I'm cautiously optimistic. Now I have to work on making an ugly external dual HD arrangement. As if the Xbox wasn't ugly enough... thanks again MS. -Rob |
Do you have any non-standard files e.g. EvoX, XBMC on your HD?
I'm getting a new EEPROM and reformating my old stock HD, which has been on live before. It will be interesting to see if my old drive got flagged even though I was banned whilst using my new HD. They might have tracked HD changes, noted both serial numbers, then delayed the ban until Nov 9th.
Post by: DeathwishCrew on November 10, 2004, 07:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (otherguy @ Nov 10 2004, 09:21 AM) |
| If anyone needs stock hard drives (with all default files loaded) i can supply t hem cheap. I have a stack of 7 available right now. I'd be willing to part with them for $10 plus shipping. |
I am interested.... what is the procedure for replacing them? Just swap? or?
Post by: xfiendx on November 10, 2004, 07:50:00 AM
Post by: supermario80 on November 10, 2004, 08:24:00 AM
but my friend just get banned while playing halo 2...he has an originale HD and a switch to turn off the mod.
He has also evox installed, and I think it's the real cause of the ban...
am I wrong?
Doas he need another original hard disk and eeprom?
I hope it will need only a fresh eeprom....
Post by: miggidy on November 10, 2004, 10:14:00 AM
Your friend should be fine with a new eeprom and a "Xbox Live VIRGIN" stock hdd.
If not a stock hdd, and will be using a "Xbox Live Virgin" upgraded hdd then he will need a new Xbox Live account.
Post by: lazarus18 on November 10, 2004, 11:19:00 AM
I DID have Avalaunch etc on my original HD, but I am restoring it to stock with Slayers and then reflashing with a new eeprom (just like the instructions on the first page, but without using a new HD). I realize that this is a risk, as it's possible MS may record HD serial #s, but I'm willing to take that chance. We'll see how it goes. As of this morning I'm not banned, and it's been a good 8 or so hours since I first went on Live with this new eeprom, new GT, old (reformatted) HD. Will surely post back here if I get banned again.
-Rob
Post by: supermario80 on November 10, 2004, 11:22:00 AM
but for a week a friend (banned before) used his account on this xbox with a memory card...
don't let banned peolpe use their account on your xbox then!
your xbox get flagged and it's not your fault!
last question...
if he clear the original hd flagged with this ban and refresh the eeprom he can connect to live?
is it sure that he must change his stock hd?
Post by: Kamakazie on November 10, 2004, 11:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (supermario80 @ Nov 10 2004, 08:18 PM) |
| don't let banned peolpe use their account on your xbox then! your xbox get flagged and it's not your fault! |
I dont think this matters, as I have played on my friend's unmodded console with him, each of us using our own gamertags, and he did not get banned.
Post by: supermario80 on November 10, 2004, 11:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (lazarus18 @ Nov 10 2004, 08:15 PM) |
| feet14, I DID have Avalaunch etc on my original HD, but I am restoring it to stock with Slayers and then reflashing with a new eeprom (just like the instructions on the first page, but without using a new HD). I realize that this is a risk, as it's possible MS may record HD serial #s, but I'm willing to take that chance. We'll see how it goes. As of this morning I'm not banned, and it's been a good 8 or so hours since I first went on Live with this new eeprom, new GT, old (reformatted) HD. Will surely post back here if I get banned again. -Rob |
why don't you try with your old GT?
I think that it should works with a clear stock HD and a new eeprom
Post by: Phunnybonz on November 10, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (lazarus18 @ Nov 10 2004, 08:15 PM) |
| As of this morning I'm not banned, and it's been a good 8 or so hours since I first went on Live with this new eeprom, new GT, old (reformatted) HD. |
I'm not sure if anyone has tried that combination yet, but I'd be very interested to hear your status updates.
If a person sucks on XBL and doesn't have any stats, or doesn't care about their stats, then this would be a cheaper alternative. But a lot of guys, me included, would prefer to spend the cash and get a safe XBL xbox rather than lose our established GT.
Post by: supermario80 on November 10, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (Kamakazie @ Nov 10 2004, 08:21 PM) |
| I dont think this matters, as I have played on my friend's unmodded console with him, each of us using our own gamertags, and he did not get banned. |
just because he got an unmodded xbox...
but now his xbox is flagged and MS will take care of it if he mod and install evox
Post by: smokeingit on November 10, 2004, 11:50:00 AM
Post by: feet14 on November 10, 2004, 12:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 10 2004, 07:46 PM) |
| its not a flag anymore guys... its anyone with a large hard drive... There is no flag... that was just BS, everyone with a large hard drive will be banned as i am with this new xbox with a large new hard drive that has not even booted with evox and the chip was removed as soon as i was able to lock it and put all the hacked software on the F:\ drive. |
I presume from what you've said that you didn't go onto live until you installed the new HD.
Post by: savah on November 10, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
just a simple question...
i still have 11 months of subscription (i bought starter kit)... in case i get banned, can I use the remaining 11 months with a new GT ????
Post by: bonzy on November 10, 2004, 12:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 10 2004, 08:46 PM) |
| its not a flag anymore guys... its anyone with a large hard drive... There is no flag... that was just BS, everyone with a large hard drive will be banned as i am with this new xbox with a large new hard drive that has not even booted with evox and the chip was removed as soon as i was able to lock it and put all the hacked software on the F:\ drive. |
Bull. Why has my friend been playing Halo2 on live with a 120 gig hd for the past few days?
Post by: qck on November 10, 2004, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: Edgedamage on November 10, 2004, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: handles25 on November 10, 2004, 01:06:00 PM
Post by: dfroot on November 10, 2004, 01:08:00 PM
Post by: smokeingit on November 10, 2004, 02:21:00 PM
Post by: MogKnight on November 10, 2004, 02:31:00 PM
Post by: handles25 on November 10, 2004, 02:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 10 2004, 11:17 PM) |
| bonzy, i dont care what your friend said. this makes it the 6th time i get banned on testing every thoery there is. he will get banned. thats a fact and take that shit to the bank. i was online last night with my xbox and a new unbanned 250gig HD. today i wake up and its banned. |
Im using a 250 gig and comming up roses. I dont think you did the "start a new GT"step. Correct me if Im wrong.
Post by: MogKnight on November 10, 2004, 03:16:00 PM
Post by: Phunnybonz on November 10, 2004, 03:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 10 2004, 11:17 PM) |
| this makes it the 6th time i get banned on testing every thoery there is...... i was online last night with my xbox and a new unbanned 250gig HD. today i wake up and its banned. |
Well, unless you had a new eeprom AND a new gamer tag that's hardly a revelation or a surprise.
Post by: lazarus18 on November 10, 2004, 03:41:00 PM
-Rob
Post by: dfroot on November 10, 2004, 05:54:00 PM
Post by: handles25 on November 10, 2004, 06:08:00 PM
Post by: lazarus18 on November 10, 2004, 06:17:00 PM
That being said I can't explain the success I've had so far with a stock HD they've already theoretically seen. It's possible that changes in HD serial are noted and the eeprom is flagged/banned, but no record is kept of the HD serial. Or they could just be toying with me and I'll be banned soon enough
If so I just have to go through the annoying process of getting another eeprom and swap my big Xbox HD for the slightly smaller HD with my MP3s on it because they'll never have seen that. But I sure hope to avoid doing that (bought all the switches and junk necessary to have an external HD today).-Rob
Post by: bbanka on November 10, 2004, 06:36:00 PM
2. Format the HDD and install the retail MS Dashboard using Slayers 2.6.
3. Acquire and install a new unbanned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic.
4. Register a new Xbox Live account using a different GT. (CRITICAL!!!)
If you use original HDD, the point of 4 steps is buying a new eeprom never been
used. even though you changed EEPROM and HDD at the same time, you could be
screwed up because of wrong EEPROM. I sure that If you follow 4 steps exactly,
with a clean EEPROM you can go back to XBL. one more thing If you want to use
your orginal HDD, you don't need to follow step 4(Register a new Xbox Live
account using a different GT). using old GT is enough.
Post by: lazarus18 on November 10, 2004, 06:51:00 PM
-Rob
Post by: dfroot on November 10, 2004, 07:07:00 PM
Post by: Dijital on November 10, 2004, 07:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (dfroot @ Nov 11 2004, 04:03 AM) |
| alright, now im hoping mine works. I thought lazarus got banned on his stock HD, cause thats what happened to me. Maybe we do just have to format and redo eeprom even on a large harddrive. Maybe if you format then it whipes your HD clean of what they are looking for. Im gonna try formatting the stock HD I got banned with. |
please report back if that works along with using a new EEPROM and possibly a new serial # for the hdd possibly
Post by: mjortman on November 10, 2004, 08:32:00 PM
Thanks.
Post by: bbanka on November 10, 2004, 08:38:00 PM
I've never heard about anybody changed his GT in his Xbox or via xbox.com
If I was wrong tell me the case
Post by: kwyjibo on November 10, 2004, 08:48:00 PM
I had a modded xbox, I reverted back stock (old hard drive, removed chip entirely) on 11/9/04. I called M$ because I couldn't sign in to XBL. They said my account was in good standing and I just need to do an account recovery. I did that, and it worked. Wheeeee!
So we had a big LAN party last night, I tried out XBL, and it worked fine. I get my box home today and try to go on live, and says I'm banned. They say I should buy another xbox and hung up on me.
So to review:
Stock hard drive
No Mod chip
Haven't previously play XBL for months
Never been banned
M$ said GamerTag was in good standing
WTF??? I just got Halo 2, and can't do crap with it. Grrrrrrrr.
Post by: mangup1987 on November 10, 2004, 08:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (kwyjibo @ Nov 11 2004, 05:44 AM) |
| Just to chime in with my findings. I had a modded xbox, I reverted back stock (old hard drive, removed chip entirely) on 11/9/04. I called M$ because I couldn't sign in to XBL. They said my account was in good standing and I just need to do an account recovery. I did that, and it worked. Wheeeee! So we had a big LAN party last night, I tried out XBL, and it worked fine. I get my box home today and try to go on live, and says I'm banned. They say I should buy another xbox and hung up on me. So to review: Stock hard drive No Mod chip Haven't previously play XBL for months Never been banned M$ said GamerTag was in good standing WTF??? I just got Halo 2, and can't do crap with it. Grrrrrrrr. |
Wow, they told u to get another xbox and they hung up on you? I would keep calling and try to bother the heck out of them. I hope I don't get banned, but I can see that there is always the possibility.
Seriously though, I would keep calling them and complain over and over.
Post by: Sage2050 on November 10, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
Post by: dfroot on November 10, 2004, 09:02:00 PM
Post by: dfroot on November 10, 2004, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: dannymak on November 10, 2004, 09:37:00 PM
Im currently testing new eeprom and a stock hdd(never been to live before), no problems so far, i can connect to Live, let see for sometimes to prove it
Post by: bengu on November 10, 2004, 09:53:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Im currently testing new eeprom and a stock hdd(never been to live before), no problems so far, i can connect to Live, let see for sometimes to prove it |
I have done the same and so far I can connect to live no problem. However I have not attempted to play halo 2 yet.
Have you dannymak
Post by: R3PL1C4 on November 10, 2004, 10:03:00 PM
I also purchased a new xbox and can also confirm GT are not banned, i am able to use live fine now.
Post by: dannymak on November 10, 2004, 11:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (bengu @ Nov 11 2004, 06:49 AM) |
| I have done the same and so far I can connect to live no problem. However I have not attempted to play halo 2 yet. Have you dannymak |
I havent purchase Halo2 yet,but i'll get it later
Good luck for all modded xbox
Post by: Shiro on November 11, 2004, 12:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (R3PL1C4 @ Nov 11 2004, 06:59 AM) |
| I have been banned before too and when i went on live a couple days ago i was too faced with a modified xbox error but i still and always have been using the stock HD. So my GT must be tagged and one of these "rigerous tests" must be scanning HD contents because i still have the stock HD. Well thats my 2 cents. I also purchased a new xbox and can also confirm GT are not banned, i am able to use live fine now. |
What are your specs?
And did you sign on live before or after the xbox was modded?
hmm this question doesnt make sense, original hard disk and Eeprom and still banned.
This would indicate M$ has more scanning powers of other things too
Post by: Kamakazie on November 11, 2004, 01:40:00 AM
Post by: Sage2050 on November 11, 2004, 04:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (Sage2050 @ Nov 11 2004, 05:49 AM) |
| i have a newly modded box that has never been on live before. i am about to install a 160gb Seagate hdd BEFORE ever putting halo 2 (which is thought to do some hdd scanning) and using the stock EEPROM (i have a spare). do you think i'll be banned, or do you need more information to determine it? |
anyone?
Post by: feet14 on November 11, 2004, 05:17:00 AM
If I do get banned in the next few weeks, then MS must have recorded the serial number of this HD when I signed up and linked it to my original EEPROM. If not, it would seem that they only ban the larger HD and the EEPROM in the Xbox at the time.
Post by: rakshas on November 11, 2004, 06:27:00 AM
I have been banned several times probably because I had an upgraded HD. Every time I reflashed the eeprom I was able to get online for only a day or two before I'd get banned again. I still had my stock HD somewhere and according to this thread, returning the xbox to it's stock state would get me back on.
However, when I plugged the drive back in I got an error6. This was because the eeprom that my xbox was flashed with wasn't the one that was hard coded on the drive. Fortunately for me, I had a backup eeprom stashed somewhere. Once my xbox was flashed with the old eeprom, my stock drive started reading fine.
Used slayers to wipe my xbox to factory state, flashed it with an NEW UNBANNED EEPROM, hopped on live, and lots of halo2 fun was had by me. My xbox is open and I guess when I want to use the old hd I'll just do a quick IDE cable switch and I'm ready to go. Small price to pay I think.
Hope this helps someone.
Post by: solid7x2 on November 11, 2004, 07:05:00 AM
i am swapping hard drives to play my backups, and its nice to hear people talk in english when playing games now!
Post by: DeathwishCrew on November 11, 2004, 07:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (kwyjibo @ Nov 11 2004, 04:44 AM) |
| Just to chime in with my findings. I had a modded xbox, I reverted back stock (old hard drive, removed chip entirely) on 11/9/04. I called M$ because I couldn't sign in to XBL. They said my account was in good standing and I just need to do an account recovery. I did that, and it worked. Wheeeee! So we had a big LAN party last night, I tried out XBL, and it worked fine. I get my box home today and try to go on live, and says I'm banned. They say I should buy another xbox and hung up on me. So to review: Stock hard drive No Mod chip Haven't previously play XBL for months Never been banned M$ said GamerTag was in good standing WTF??? I just got Halo 2, and can't do crap with it. Grrrrrrrr. |
Exactly what happened to me... Stock HARD DRIVE... Modchip off. It was a different XBOX than when I first signed up on LIVE a year ago. The only thing is that this stock drive had evox, and XBMC.
Let me get it straight, you called them after the ban? Did they tell you why they banned you?
Post by: kwyjibo on November 11, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (DeathwishCrew @ Nov 11 2004, 04:29 PM) |
| Exactly what happened to me... Stock HARD DRIVE... Modchip off. It was a different XBOX than when I first signed up on LIVE a year ago. The only thing is that this stock drive had evox, and XBMC. Let me get it straight, you called them after the ban? Did they tell you why they banned you? |
Let me get it straight, you called them after the ban? Did they tell you why they banned you?
Yes, I called them to ask what was up. They didn't tell me why other that it appears my box had been modified. He suggested I take it back to the retailer where I bought it as there was nothing MS could/would do to fix the situation. He then proceeded to hang up on me after I tried to escalate the issue to a supervisor.
My Stock hard Drive was completely stock. The only thing i can think is that they were expecting to see my larger HDD since that was what I used when last on live. I am wondering what would happen if I just put that back in and left the mod chip out. Or would I need a new eeprom also?
Any thoughts??
Post by: Fofer on November 11, 2004, 08:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (DeathwishCrew @ Nov 11 2004, 04:29 PM) |
| Exactly what happened to me... Stock HARD DRIVE... Modchip off. It was a different XBOX than when I first signed up on LIVE a year ago. The only thing is that this stock drive had evox, and XBMC. |
Can I ask - how did you transfer your GamerTag from your old box to your new box? I ask because we're in similar boats. I signed up for LIVE a year ago on a different box. I recovered my Live account to a new box, after doing the mod.
Let's step back for a moment. Let's say I have an Xbox that dies, and I go out and buy a new one. I recover my GT to the new one, M$ can't ban me for that, I haven't done anything wrong. They obviously are looking for EEPROM and HDD# marriages. So what I'm curious about, DeathwishCrew, is how you would have gotten banned if your Xbox has the stock drive and has only been on Live with that EEPROM/HDD# combo.
Post by: kwyjibo on November 11, 2004, 08:27:00 AM
| QUOTE (Fofer @ Nov 11 2004, 05:09 PM) |
| So what I'm curious about, DeathwishCrew, is how you would have gotten banned if your Xbox has the stock drive and has only been on Live with that EEPROM/HDD# combo. |
He said he had evox on the stock HDD. So it was essentially not stock.
The banning message says "your software or hardware has been modified"
Post by: gottimanu on November 11, 2004, 08:33:00 AM
Ive modded my xbox 2 month ago: thats what i did:
1st installed a tsop switch (x2-498x /original m$)
2nd burned a software cd (with dashes /programms etc...) to have no unsigned /other files on my hdd
3rd:every time before i went online ive checked with the data manager if i have some files on the hd.
4th: checked savegames for some "illegal" entries befor i go online
this went for 2 months well but now i got banned.
WHY???? i have the stock hdd (8gb) and NO files on it!!!!!
WHY!!!!!!!!!!!
fuck m$
Post by: Fofer on November 11, 2004, 09:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (kwyjibo @ Nov 11 2004, 05:23 PM) |
| He said he had evox on the stock HDD. So it was essentially not stock. The banning message says "your software or hardware has been modified" |
I recognize that. But that seems to fly in the face of the "Marriage theory" that is making the rounds now. Unless M$ is banning for that, as well as other things (like scanning HD contents.) But if that were the case, lots of other folks would be reporting that they've been banned too.
There are many people who modded, installed lots of software, then went on XBL and have been on ever since, including Halo 2, who are not banned.
Post by: lancerx on November 11, 2004, 09:34:00 AM
| QUOTE (exiva @ Nov 4 2004, 12:23 AM) |
| ill let you know tomorrow if gamer tags are tagged. I'm purchasing a new xbox tomorrow just for live. |
Don´t do that bro that´s what MS wants you to do, just wait to see what solutions come in the forum.
Post by: asstractor on November 11, 2004, 10:00:00 AM
I bought an Xbox Live subscription when it first came out and played it for about 2 months using my unmodded Xbox. About 3 months later I modded the Xbox and upgraded the hard drive and never went on Xbox Live after that (I canceled my subscription as soon as it ran out).
My question is, have they been recording EEPROM / HDD combinations since Live first launched, or did they start doing this later?
I still have my stock HDD, but I'd like to keep my Maxtor 80 gig drive, and I'm not too excited about swapping back and forth. So, here is how I see my options (let me know if any of these are incorrect):
1.) If Live has been recording EEPROM / HDD combination since the beginning, they have my EEPROM tied to my stock HDD and they have no idea about my upgraded drive. In this case, I should get a new EEPROM (no idea how to do this), clean up my hard drive and sign up for a new GT. This is esentially following the steps in the solution exactly with the assumption that I never screwed up after I modded and upgraded the drive.
2.) If Live started recording the EEPROM / HDD combination after some upgrade that happened after I stopped using Live, they don't have my EEPROM tied to my stock HDD and all I should need to do is clean up my C and E partitions on the upgraded drive and maybe sign up for a new GT to be safe (although I've never been banned before). If I try this and I'm wrong (that is, they do have my info recorded), Live will have my HDD on record, and I can't use it with another EEPROM, thus I'd have to buy either a new HDD or a new Xbox.
3.) Bite the bullet and deal with swapping in my old hard drive if I want to play on live.
Anything sound wrong with this assesment?
Post by: MogKnight on November 11, 2004, 11:45:00 AM
I have done everything pointed out EXCEPT I decided to keep my old gamer tag. So basically new eeprom, new (stock) hard drive, same gamer tag.
The only thing that I have on the new HD that shouldn't be in there is the backup folder on the C drive and a few log files on the E
Lets see how long this lasts...
Post by: R3PL1C4 on November 11, 2004, 12:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (Shiro @ Nov 11 2004, 09:02 AM) |
| What are your specs? And did you sign on live before or after the xbox was modded? hmm this question doesnt make sense, original hard disk and Eeprom and still banned. This would indicate M$ has more scanning powers of other things too |
Sorry for the confusing post it was late at night after playing halo 2 for like 7 hours.
I have a ver 1.1 xbox with a xecuter 2.2 and the stock HD.
Yes i had modded my xbox after i signed on to live for the first time and the first time i was banned was some time ago. (possibly a year ago about)
Post by: feet14 on November 11, 2004, 12:35:00 PM
| QUOTE |
2.) If Live started recording the EEPROM / HDD combination after some upgrade that happened after I stopped using Live, they don't have my EEPROM tied to my stock HDD and all I should need to do is clean up my C and E partitions on the upgraded drive and maybe sign up for a new GT to be safe (although I've never been banned before) |
Nobody is certain in this regard. I've gone back to my stock HDD (with new EEPROM) which was used until August/September. If they started tracking HD's early this year, then I will get banned again. I wouldn't bother with a new GT - they either spot your HD is tied to a different EEPROM or they don't.
Post by: kwyjibo on November 11, 2004, 08:28:00 PM
I reverted back to stock HDD and removed my mod chip, played Halo 2. I was banned.
Previously, I had used the larger HDD with mod chip off. If I put the larger HDD back in, will I be ok? or will I need a new eeprom? If so, how do I get one?
Post by: ydgmms on November 11, 2004, 08:34:00 PM
XBOX 1.0
XeniumICE.
iND-Bios now, was X2 4981 for a while.
I've always had the stealth install (everything non-stock on F:\), however indbios doesn't allow this 100%, it looks for the config file on C:\ (really should change that, whoever makes ind).
I bought it used in August. Went on live stock.
added chip. went on live a cpoule of days.
added a 250GB HD, went on live.
changed mobo/eeprom and to 160GB hd, went on live w/ the same account.
Didn't go on live much. Went on tuesday to check if I was banned after reading all this, was good.
Banned as of 10minutes ago.
I have a number of fresh HDs, but no fresh eeprom. If I can get an eeprom, I'll switch out HDs and eeprom and go on w/ same gamertag to check the flagging/banning of GamerTags. However, sicne I dont have any free trials, I can't test the all new gamertag.
If anyone can supply me with a new eeprom and/or free trial, I'll setup a new HD and eeprom and gamertag to help confirm/bust this theory.
PM me.
(update)
I ordered 2 new eeproms, waiting for the email with them.
Still need a free trial card. Be more than happy to test this theory out.
I can test out:
1) New EEPROM / New HD / Same GT
2) New EEPROM / New HD / New GT (if I get a free trial card)
I have 2 unopened HDs sittin around. And ordered 2 new EEPROMs.
Just need that card.
Post by: teknow on November 11, 2004, 09:52:00 PM
placed new eeprom and a virgin to XBL hard drive.
Signed for new Gamer Tag
Played Halo2 for a few hours
by 11.am. banned again
This solution does not work consistently, and certainly didn't work for me
This was with v1.0
160gb hdd
xenium ice solderless
that was my second eeprom I lost so I said screw it and got a used 1.0 from Blockbuster , ended up having Bad boys 2 in the drive, a halo controller, and 8 months left of XBL subscription I'm currently using. After trading in some games with them, and selling one I bought for a special price, on ebay for 30.00
the entire deal was 85... so not too bad
MS one the battle, but didn't get extra money from this player
Post by: -Gadget- on November 12, 2004, 06:23:00 AM
and YES the mariage thing is DEFINATLY a bannable offense here
BUT also on some posts ive read, were peeps have put up there details
where they have a bigger HDD and logged on for first time but are STILL getting banned (that is, Mod of, HDD NEW but not logged in before, and all clean etc)
i think a factor thats been overlooked is the actual LOCK CODE that was used to LOCK it
as this info is all inside the eeprom so then thats all they need to get (the eprom dump)
is this true ??? is the lock code in the eeprom, along with the last log of the HDD srial etc (as this is whats used to generate the lock code etc)
and the lock code is definatly in the eeprom as it uses this to unlock the HDD on booting etc ..
so then this info needs to be added when people give box detail.... HOW they locked there HDD.
config magic? Evox? etc etc
Mick ..
Post by: pingrr on November 12, 2004, 06:31:00 AM
Post by: dzv on November 12, 2004, 07:27:00 AM
| QUOTE (-Gadget- @ Nov 13 2004, 01:19 AM) |
| as this info is all inside the eeprom so then thats all they need to get (the eprom dump) is this true ??? is the lock code in the eeprom, along with the last log of the HDD srial etc (as this is whats used to generate the lock code etc) and the lock code is definatly in the eeprom as it uses this to unlock the HDD on booting etc .. |
Every Xbox has a unique HDD lock password, and no, I don't believe it is actually contained in the EEPROM. When you see the HDD password in a program like Config Magic, it was not read directly from the EEPROM. Config Magic has calculated the password using the Xbox Serial number and some other bits of information. I'm not 100% sure about this, as it has been a long time since I read any of the discussions about hacking the HDD password (it was hacked a long time ago).
| QUOTE |
so then this info needs to be added when people give box detail.... HOW they locked there HDD. config magic? Evox? etc etc Mick .. |
Config Magic, EvoX, and the Xenium OS all lock the HDDs in the same way, and all set the same Master password of TEAMASSEMBLY (different from the HDD unlock code). I'm not sure about other progams (eg. X3, SmartXX), but I would guess that they all do the same.
Post by: dmauro on November 12, 2004, 07:46:00 AM
Post by: keroji on November 12, 2004, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: -Gadget- on November 12, 2004, 10:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (dzv @ Nov 12 2004, 04:23 PM) |
| Every Xbox has a unique HDD lock password, Config Magic, EvoX, and the Xenium OS all lock the HDDs in the same way, and all set the same Master password of TEAMASSEMBLY (different from the HDD unlock code) I'm not sure about other progams (eg. X3, SmartXX), but I would guess that they all do the same. |
arrr now this is good dzv
ok, maybe there looking at this uniqe LOCK code ?
as if cofigmagic can get this info, then sure as hell they can !
so maybe they look at this when ya GT is flageged ?
if the lock code IS teamassembly then ya out ?
maybe we SHOULD be locking with a uniqe code
calculated from the eprom (mac address ??) and HDD serial .. ?
its just a thought ?
BUT then against this idea,
if there banning on this code then all they would look for is TEAMASSEMBLY !
lock codes to start with ?
(maybe there were going to but found that way to many people would go ! lol)
and also against this idea, this code would not change on just a eprom change, which does indeed get people back on .. so
but the thought is here, and the lock code is worth considering as a vunrabiltiy ! ...
because this is something else thats visibly even if ya got chip off, and a clean HDD
u still got a 'dirty' lock code ! (if indeed this is what people lockcode are!)
think Mick ..
Post by: ssj4android on November 12, 2004, 10:44:00 AM
Post by: krajyk on November 12, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
Post by: shishtawoo on November 12, 2004, 09:49:00 PM
Post by: smokeingit on November 12, 2004, 11:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (dzv @ Nov 12 2004, 08:23 AM) |
| Every Xbox has a unique HDD lock password, and no, I don't believe it is actually contained in the EEPROM. When you see the HDD password in a program like Config Magic, it was not read directly from the EEPROM. Config Magic has calculated the password using the Xbox Serial number and some other bits of information. I'm not 100% sure about this, as it has been a long time since I read any of the discussions about hacking the HDD password (it was hacked a long time ago). Config Magic, EvoX, and the Xenium OS all lock the HDDs in the same way, and all set the same Master password of TEAMASSEMBLY (different from the HDD unlock code). I'm not sure about other progams (eg. X3, SmartXX), but I would guess that they all do the same. |
this theroy is also wrong... i locked an old 8 gig to my xbox because my 200 gig was banned and i have been on live still ever since... and i locked it with config magic.
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 13, 2004, 12:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 13 2004, 12:03 AM) |
| this theroy is also wrong... i locked an old 8 gig to my xbox because my 200 gig was banned and i have been on live still ever since... and i locked it with config magic. |
It's good to see that you were able to become unbanned. It's just too bad that your larger HDD was banned and you have to use a stock HDD, although it is much easier to stay unbanned that way. If you happen to get another larger HDD, you should try to register a new GT, as that's the only known way to get unbanned with a non-stock HDD installed. Also, how is your project about changing the HDD serial numbers coming along?
Just as a personal update, I have been playing a retail copy of Halo 2 on Xbox Live since Tuesday, after installing its updates, and I am still unbanned for about 18 days now, using the procedure at the first of this thread.
And to those of you who have been posting new arbitrary theories in this thread, let me remind you of the first line of the first post in this thread. It states "THIS THREAD IS DEDICATED TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE ONLY!!!" If you somehow can't figure out what that means, let me rephrase it for you:
DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD UNLESS IT IS SPECIFICALLY RELEVANT TO THE PROCEDURE AT THE FIRST OF THIS THREAD!!!
Thanks and good luck!
Post by: smokeingit on November 13, 2004, 09:53:00 AM
Post by: dzv on November 13, 2004, 10:08:00 AM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 13 2004, 06:03 PM) |
| this theroy is also wrong... i locked an old 8 gig to my xbox because my 200 gig was banned and i have been on live still ever since... and i locked it with config magic. |
I'm not sure why you quoted my post when you said this. I never put forth any theory.
I personally don't believe that MS is checking HDD master passwords.
Post by: mastiha on November 13, 2004, 04:19:00 PM
I do have a question though (sorry if it has been asked before). Now that I've created a new gamertag for this Xbox would it be OK to use an old gamertag that was not the one I was actually using on the Xbox at the time of the banning?
Post by: smokeingit on November 13, 2004, 05:36:00 PM
Post by: GamezMan on November 14, 2004, 11:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (mastiha @ Nov 14 2004, 01:15 AM) |
| My Xbox got banned and I followed the instruction on page one and I've been up and running now for three days. I do have a question though (sorry if it has been asked before). Now that I've created a new gamertag for this Xbox would it be OK to use an old gamertag that was not the one I was actually using on the Xbox at the time of the banning? |
As long as that GT has never been banned it will be ok. but the GT that u got banned with is now only good for a non-moded box or a modded one BUT WITH STOCK HDD...
Post by: rhoads46 on November 14, 2004, 12:01:00 PM
So, if I swap back my stock HDD, and turn off the modchip; I shouldn't have any probs playing on Live, by today's theories, correct?
Alright, now, how crazy does this sound??::
Find a IDE cable switch, and keep both the stock HDD and the modded HDD on there; when playing on XBL, flip to stock; when off Live flip back to modded.
Post by: GamezMan on November 14, 2004, 03:15:00 PM
http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Mods/xbox_4_connector_ide_cable_udma_.htm
However, if u'v never been banned or your xbox had never been banned then u dont need to do this ,,,,,, WE THINK ! ... but as no 1 is really 100% sure whats causing the bans, the two hdd would be the safest,,, but u would have to keep it that way once u have an acount and signed on live ...
Post by: fiveohhh on November 14, 2004, 04:10:00 PM
Post by: BamElementCH on November 14, 2004, 06:02:00 PM
Post by: BuBBeR on November 15, 2004, 06:22:00 AM
I have a 120g Hd and been banned.
If a change for another 120g hdd an change my eeprom, i will be banned again?
Thanks for the help!
Post by: Gumba on November 15, 2004, 06:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (BuBBeR @ Nov 15 2004, 03:18 PM) |
| I have a question! I have a 120g Hd and been banned. If a change for another 120g hdd an change my eeprom, i will be banned again? Thanks for the help! |
You need to change your GamerTag too
Post by: BuBBeR on November 15, 2004, 07:50:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Nov 15 2004, 03:25 PM) |
| You need to change your GamerTag too |
I can't use my old???why?
Post by: Gumba on November 15, 2004, 07:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (BuBBeR @ Nov 15 2004, 04:46 PM) |
| I can't use my old???why? |
Did you read the first post in this thread?
Anywho, read this http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=304652
it says why.
Post by: myballsa_ritchey on November 15, 2004, 08:13:00 AM
will keep u updated
Post by: kdoggtriad on November 15, 2004, 09:21:00 AM
I've got an Xecuter2 mod chip that was installed for me by a friend. Now, I don't really know how to install it or format anything, that's why he did it. I just recently bought Live, and noticed that people are becoming banned whether or not the mod chip is on or off. This has kind of delayed my registration process because I don't want to waste $70
So, I guess my question is:How do I go about formatting the HDD and installing Slayers?
If this is proven to work, and 18 days of ban-free experience, it's something I'd like to try. Again, I've never connected to Live before, or created my GT. Just looking for serious help, preferably Cloaked. Thanks!
Post by: BuBBeR on November 15, 2004, 10:29:00 AM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 15, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (BuBBeR @ Nov 15 2004, 11:25 AM) |
| One more about my game saves....i really heve to copy them to memory card???because some games don't copy...like ninja gaiden......and i don't want to lost this saves....if i copy them to the new hdd, i will be banned???why? |
This is more or less a precaution than a necessary step. I just put that there because some people were discussing how directly copying saved games, specifically downloaded content, could get you banned as well. I have no idea how true that is. I personally did not copy any saved games whatsoever, again, as a precaution. So it's up to you. There hasn't been any direct focus on that issue lately.
Post by: bengu on November 15, 2004, 11:04:00 AM
Post by: otherguy on November 15, 2004, 11:34:00 AM
contact me if you are interested
Post by: BuBBeR on November 15, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Nov 15 2004, 07:34 PM) |
| This is more or less a precaution than a necessary step. I just put that there because some people were discussing how directly copying saved games, specifically downloaded content, could get you banned as well. I have no idea how true that is. I personally did not copy any saved games whatsoever, again, as a precaution. So it's up to you. There hasn't been any direct focus on that issue lately. |
Ok! One more, if i transfered my saves via memory card im saved......
So A change my HD, Chenge EEprom and ganhe my GT and come back to live and im 100% saved right?
Post by: CFinch106 on November 15, 2004, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: BuBBeR on November 15, 2004, 03:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (BuBBeR @ Nov 15 2004, 09:36 PM) |
| Ok! One more, if i transfered my saves via memory card im saved...... So A change my HD, Chenge EEprom and ganhe my GT and come back to live and im 100% saved right? |
One more, can i pick an hdd alredy in use in a pc???
Post by: BamElementCH on November 15, 2004, 03:29:00 PM
Post by: kwyjibo on November 15, 2004, 03:51:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: BuBBeR on November 15, 2004, 04:54:00 PM
is it in the way it formats de hdd???
if somebody knows.please tell me!
Ah, can i change the hdd if it is in use on a pc???
And, if i can put games on F, aps and everything else?
Thanks guys, sorry for the noob questions!
Post by: Leafz on November 15, 2004, 06:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (kwyjibo @ Nov 15 2004, 06:47 PM) |
| noob question. how do I get an eeprom, and how do I install it. any FAQ's on the subject? Thanks |
get it from a friend who has a chip and no intention to go on live. Using Config Magic FINAL of cource!
Post by: mc_365 on November 15, 2004, 06:29:00 PM
All the steps have been covered in numerous tuts on this site.
This is aimed at the noobs askin "how do I change my Hd?"
And those askin "do I realy need a new GT?"
Its frustrating when I come to see the progress on circumventing the bann and people are asking basic questions that can be found in the noob threads and tuts.
I like to see more pertinent info. As of this post it seems to be 50/50, but who know given all the comments if you guys are following the instructions to the letter?
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 15, 2004, 07:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (mc_365 @ Nov 15 2004, 07:25 PM) |
| As of this post it seems to be 50/50, but who know given all the comments if you guys are following the instructions to the letter? |
Believe me, they're not.
There would probably be zero Failure votes in the poll if those who voted would have actually followed the procedure EXACTLY, as the poll requested. I say this because I have yet to read a post in this thread containg detailed steps from a test of this procedure which failed. People just vote Failure and run away. Everyone, this procedure works, seriously!
If you are not going to test the procedure EXACTLY, then don't even bother posting!
Post by: jpainter99 on November 15, 2004, 09:08:00 PM
I suspect the eeprom I got is not from the right version of xbox (I need a v1.1 eeprom). It's doing wierd stuff like changing the MAC on every boot, and on the live network test its not showing a serial number for my box. If someone could supply a 1.1 eeprom would be happy to test again.
I can't really justify spending any additional cash that I could be spending on a new xbox on shady eeprom websites.
Post by: prplehz on November 15, 2004, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: Leafz on November 15, 2004, 09:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Nov 15 2004, 10:12 PM) |
| Believe me, they're not. There would probably be zero Failure votes in the poll if those who voted would have actually followed the procedure EXACTLY, as the poll requested. I say this because I have yet to read a post in this thread containg detailed steps from a test of this procedure which failed. People just vote Failure and run away. Everyone, this procedure works, seriously! If you are not going to test the procedure EXACTLY, then don't even bother posting! |
CH, i wont try your theory untill i get an EEPROM from one of my friends which i can trust. Its just hard to find a friend with the same xbox version as you and with a modded xbox.
It sounds like your theory works, just people need to post more on this subject how and why it faild, or why it worked (if they did something different).
Post by: HL_101 on November 16, 2004, 04:17:00 AM
This have been discused here but I have never seen any one confirm it.
Post by: lordashram on November 16, 2004, 05:16:00 AM
Post by: Leafz on November 16, 2004, 05:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (lordashram @ Nov 16 2004, 08:12 AM) |
| just tried this out last night, and so far so good. i was able to play DOA:U with no issue. checked again this morning and i'm still on. |
are you using this method on page one?
Post by: Gumba on November 16, 2004, 06:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (BuBBeR @ Nov 16 2004, 12:05 AM) |
| One more, can i pick an hdd alredy in use in a pc??? |
yes
Post by: BuBBeR on November 16, 2004, 06:36:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Nov 16 2004, 03:19 PM) |
| yes |
Nice!! i will try another 120gb hdd with new gamertag, eeprom.
And be whatever god wants!
PS: Is Slayers 2.6 really necessary? What is the diference of this program instead evolution?
Thanks!
Post by: lordashram on November 16, 2004, 07:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (Leafz @ Nov 16 2004, 08:52 AM) |
| are you using this method on page one? |
yes
Post by: miggidy on November 16, 2004, 08:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (prplehz @ Nov 16 2004, 06:06 AM) |
| Failure and not running away here. After being banned I used an unbanned xbox drive and eeprom and cannont even connect to xbox live... |
I bet that drive has been on live before.
Listen people, use hdd's that have NEVER been on Xbox Live.
I've tried this procedure twice,
and it has worked flawlessly.
Some of you people aren't paying attention to the details....
Post by: BuBBeR on November 16, 2004, 08:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (miggidy @ Nov 16 2004, 05:28 PM) |
| I bet that drive has been on live before. Listen people, use hdd's that have NEVER been on Xbox Live. I've tried this procedure twice, and it has worked flawlessly. Some of you people aren't paying attention to the details.... |
so, i have the stock hdd here......and i have used live with it......so now i cant anymore??
Post by: kdoggtriad on November 16, 2004, 09:00:00 AM
Post by: Kleath on November 16, 2004, 10:29:00 AM
I have a modded Xbox with a non stock HDD, have modded it very recently, and went on live before modding it. The thing is, I heard about the bannings before I had a chance to log on so I've stayed away. Now, I need to know what preemptive options I have for getting a Live box. First off, am I banned even though I haven't logged on since the crackdown, or is the trigger logging on after Nov 9th for sure? 2nd, obviously I can get a new box, and that's probably what I want to do, but would I be safe to mod that box in any way, hopefully softmod, w/o getting banned?
Post by: Gumba on November 16, 2004, 10:35:00 AM
| QUOTE (Kleath @ Nov 16 2004, 07:25 PM) |
| OK, I've got a question. I have a modded Xbox with a non stock HDD, have modded it very recently, and went on live before modding it. The thing is, I heard about the bannings before I had a chance to log on so I've stayed away. Now, I need to know what preemptive options I have for getting a Live box. First off, am I banned even though I haven't logged on since the crackdown, or is the trigger logging on after Nov 9th for sure? |
We're not actually sure
| QUOTE |
| 2nd, obviously I can get a new box, and that's probably what I want to do, but would I be safe to mod that box in any way, hopefully softmod, w/o getting banned? |
if you get a new eeprom and you go on live with an hd which has never been on live, you should be okay, as long as your gamertag is not flagged (and when you get flagged... i suspect it is when you actually get banned, as opposed to when you commit the initial 'offense' which causes the ban
Post by: kdoggtriad on November 16, 2004, 10:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (kdoggtriad @ Nov 16 2004, 05:56 PM) |
| Question: Is Slayers just a mirror image of a retail dash, or does it convert it back? I have a modded Xecuter box and never connected to live, so I THINK that I can skip to installing Slayers...right? Where can I get Slayer 2.6 from as well? Thanks |
ugh
Post by: krajyk on November 16, 2004, 11:19:00 AM
Post by: CFinch106 on November 16, 2004, 11:32:00 AM
Post by: Lord-Icon on November 16, 2004, 11:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (CFinch106 @ Nov 16 2004, 08:28 PM) |
| I got banned, again. I did all 4 steps, with a new HD and new gamertag, and got banned within 24 hours. M$ can keep their live service, this is rediculous. |
Yup ...
Sorry to here this ...
Im still not convinced about this eeprom HDD matching ...
sorry .
I grabbed all the traffic from a working xbox and looked at it .
I found my MAC , Xbox s/n . but NO HDD s/n or HDD DCM ...
Post by: myballsa_ritchey on November 16, 2004, 01:31:00 PM
update sorry i now think i put his stock drive that he had been on live with back in
Post by: GamezMan on November 16, 2004, 02:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (CFinch106 @ Nov 16 2004, 08:28 PM) |
| I got banned, again. I did all 4 steps, with a new HD and new gamertag, and got banned within 24 hours. M$ can keep their live service, this is rediculous. |
Hey that sucks ! and after all four steps ???
Did u copy any download content from old hdd ? or and saves ? ( not mem-card) .
how long did u last ? Did u use tha same credit card ?
PEOPLE PLEASE, IF it didn't work for u, then u need to post EXACTLY WHAT U DID AND DID'T DO !!! .
Thats the only way we can figure out what went wrong, or\and what new steps to take if any...
Post by: hnic6040 on November 16, 2004, 02:18:00 PM
Best of luck to all.
Post by: krajyk on November 16, 2004, 03:01:00 PM
Post by: CFinch106 on November 16, 2004, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: SpydaL on November 16, 2004, 09:36:00 PM
Post by: prplehz on November 16, 2004, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: Gumba on November 17, 2004, 02:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (CFinch106 @ Nov 16 2004, 08:28 PM) |
| I got banned, again. I did all 4 steps, with a new HD and new gamertag, and got banned within 24 hours. M$ can keep their live service, this is rediculous. |
There must be something unusual with the way you perform your mods or upgrades or *something*
can you please be as specific as possible so we can work out exactly what is going wrong in your case.
Thankyou
Post by: lordashram on November 17, 2004, 06:04:00 AM
Post by: BuBBeR on November 17, 2004, 06:41:00 AM
Post by: prplehz on November 17, 2004, 09:21:00 AM
Post by: bengu on November 17, 2004, 10:10:00 AM
here is my history.
1. I played mortal combat deception for about two weeks, and comes nov.8 I was banned. My hd has never been switched from live since I started live, and I am certain my mod was off. I am using a chameleon with the power and eject option to turn off my chip.
2. I switched to a stock hd I bought off of ebay that was suppose to be a unmodified hd that has never been on live before. Weather it was on live before or not I dont know, but I do know that it was modified. Any way I switched to this hd put a new eeprom in but used the same gamer tage. I was good for a day. But when I finally got enough courage to try it on halo 2 I was banned.
3. I currently am in the process of switching my pc 120 gig hd to my xbox. I have to get all my games switched over first, but ounce I do I am going to use this new hd which I am certain ha never been in a xbox before. I kneed to get an eeprom (if any one is willing to send me one I would be grateful). I am also planning on using a new gamer tag.
Post by: pixeljunky on November 17, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (bengu @ Nov 17 2004, 07:06 PM) |
| well I am about to try again. here is my history. 1. I played mortal combat deception for about two weeks, and comes nov.8 I was banned. My hd has never been switched from live since I started live, and I am certain my mod was off. I am using a chameleon with the power and eject option to turn off my chip. 2. I switched to a stock hd I bought off of ebay that was suppose to be a unmodified hd that has never been on live before. Weather it was on live before or not I dont know, but I do know that it was modified. Any way I switched to this hd put a new eeprom in but used the same gamer tage. I was good for a day. But when I finally got enough courage to try it on halo 2 I was banned. 3. I currently am in the process of switching my pc 120 gig hd to my xbox. I have to get all my games switched over first, but ounce I do I am going to use this new hd which I am certain ha never been in a xbox before. I kneed to get an eeprom (if any one is willing to send me one I would be grateful). I am also planning on using a new gamer tag. |
You will be banned again if you do this, did the same changened hdd gamertag and eeprom and i was banned with the chip off, aslong as you got a new dashboard on there you will be banned, my little bro did the same thing too and he was banned,
what i have going on is i have to diffrent hdd, on stock that i took from a buddies xbox that has never been on live, took his eeprom too flashed my xbox with it and the locked his stock hdd to mine, i alos have a 120gig hdd with modded dash and games on it, so whenever i wanna play live swap for the stock and when i wanna play other nonlive games i put the 120 in, and i have an external hdd mod going on so its easy, been on live since last thursday and i haven't been banned yet so i know it works, and yes i have been kicking ass on halo 2
Post by: bengu on November 17, 2004, 10:31:00 AM
Do you think I could do the same if I re build my stock to original state that it would work?
Does any one know how I would go about doing that. right know I used slayers 2.6 and selected re format stock hd. and then rebuilt it to original state. will that work, or am I just screwed?
Post by: prplehz on November 17, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
Post by: prplehz on November 17, 2004, 11:40:00 PM
So basicly most of my probs came from my damn router for some reason.. I must have changed security on it somewhere along the line and dont remember.
But my question is now that I set it up with a new account, should it be safe to use my old gamertag on it? That way I can keep my old gamer tag and cancel the account after the 2 months is up...
Post by: GamezMan on November 18, 2004, 03:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (prplehz @ Nov 18 2004, 08:36 AM) |
| .......But my question is now that I set it up with a new account, should it be safe to use my old gamertag on it? That way I can keep my old gamer tag and cancel the account after the 2 months is up... |
!!! NO !!!!
Dont do this if u were banned before, if u do this u will be banned, middgy tryed it after a week onlive and got bannned ...
Post by: -Gadget- on November 18, 2004, 04:00:00 PM
is because that GT is flagged and flagged GT, get more checks ..
so if ya keep the drive as stock as stock can get.. then ya shouldne get banned !!
remove ya chip as well .. !!
and if ya dont get banned then u can be the new test subject !
as then ya can slowly put stuff back modded entill ya banned again !
as this is what need to be done to find out what else there checking on tagged GT !!
Mick ..
Post by: prplehz on November 18, 2004, 04:39:00 PM
Post by: unitEvolution on November 18, 2004, 04:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (deresDK @ Nov 2 2004, 09:22 PM) |
| "Acquire and install a new unbanned HDD." plese explain how? any tutorial here? |
i own a 1.1 and a 1.4, they both have Western Digital WD80EB-28CGH2 drives in them.
these particular drives were made SPECIFICALLY for the xbox...
if u are lucky enough to aquire one of these bad boys, how do u expect to get m$ software ALONG with unbanned hdd-key that match the kernal version and dash version
matchin origional eeprom/motherboard version which also inturn lines up with the full prostitutial mackalumous in the md5-93.e=mc2 checksum.. not to mention the........
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') smilie i started off making sense, even to myself. i forget where i was goin with it.. i was having too much fun makin shit up, and to stoned to remember my point..
i hope i remember later..
Post by: unitEvolution on November 18, 2004, 05:12:00 PM
TeXLink & tha XCondor and.. sorry if i forgot anyone..)
OH JESUS THANK THE WHOLE KAI CREW FOR GIVIN US OUR VERY OWN PLAYGROUND TO FROLIC IN!!! who needs xbl anyways......
Post by: dejaydreams on November 18, 2004, 06:25:00 PM
1. got a new eeprom from xbupgrade.com
2. put in a new 160gb hd
3. formatted with slayers 2.6 to retail
4. new gamer tag (same cc & email info)
banned in less than 24 hours
I'd be willing to try another eeprom if i knew it would work!
Post by: prplehz on November 19, 2004, 12:46:00 AM
Post by: zukspeed on November 19, 2004, 01:24:00 AM
I've got a v1.0 box. Stock optical drive and Stock HDD. I do have "foreign" files in the C: drive, however.
I was running the box with the chip on (SmartXX) and booted to UnleashX. From there I started the MS Dashboard with the chip on. I wanted to test burnt DVD's with the factory dash.
Anyway, the xbox live screen pops up automatically, and I'm banned the next time I try to go on live. Crap. N00b moment.
So, I acquired a new EEPROM, and I was able to play Halo 2 off and on for approx 48 hours with the chip off. Now, I'm banned again. This sucks.
Guess I'll be buying a new xbox to play online with.
Post by: myballsa_ritchey on November 19, 2004, 03:13:00 AM
Post by: dejaydreams on November 19, 2004, 05:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (prplehz @ Nov 19 2004, 09:42 AM) |
| Have you tried it with a stock drive with all stock files? |
No I haven't, I wanted to only have 1 hard drive, but looks like I might have to do a two drive setup or buy another xbox
Post by: lancerx on November 19, 2004, 09:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (dejaydreams @ Nov 19 2004, 02:36 PM) |
| No I haven't, I wanted to only have 1 hard drive, but looks like I might have to do a two drive setup or buy another xbox |
that´s what i did, used unmodd xbox for 80$ poblem solved, i´m tired of too much reading my eyes hurts.
Post by: prplehz on November 19, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: Replex on November 19, 2004, 12:17:00 PM
My XBL account came after I modded, about 2 weeks ago I modded a friends xbox AFTER he got live and copied his Live name to my memory card, from there I copied the memory card save onto my xbox for safe keeping.
We then began to do split screen xbox live with our 2 GTs, his flagged GT probably triggered a search/ban on my xbox.
Also this would imply that my other (barely softmodded, all I have is the Run Linux) save on it) would now be subject to search/ban by MS. It has yet to be banned, however, all I have on there being the Run Linux SG, if I am banned then it will be 100% confirmed that the problem(or part of it) will reside in save games.
Post by: Kobe46 on November 19, 2004, 12:20:00 PM
if i had gone onto live with my original HD before i got the mod in my system.
Could I still use my original HD from my xbox?
or would i need to buy a brand new 8GB HD so that it can work.
Since I would like to know, since I have had this problem because of the damn banning.
So i would like to know for sure which method can work properly, like would it be better to purchase a brand new 8GB Hd or is it better to use the 8GB HD that came with my Xbox(live was enabled with that same HD).
So this would relaly help me out because of it.
Thank you for your time, and I hope there can be a better fix
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 19, 2004, 09:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (prplehz @ Nov 19 2004, 11:28 AM) |
| From recent readings it seems ot be that if you have any non ms saves on e you will either get banned or not get on at all. by the way 48 hours and counting with the new setup. The best way to do it is just leave the drive with all ms files. Which is a big waste if your using a big drive. But I think that is what it is gonna come down to. I am dying to try my old gamer tag though..lol |
It's good to see that you were finally able to get unbanned!
Two things regarding your last post:
1. I am very interested to see what would happen if you try connecting with your old GT. Considering you installed an unbanned stock HDD, you should be fine using your old GT. Give it a try!
2. MS is not scanning HDDs and you can pretty much put whatever you want on your HDD, given nothing connects to Xbox Live with your modchip on, of course.
It's also good to see that we're still at 50/50 on the poll!
Post by: dejaydreams on November 19, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
Used Config Magic to load the new EEPROM
Used Slayers 2.6 to set the drive back to normal factory condition.
I'll grab a new GT (bought NFSU2 so I have another 2 month trial)
The only thing I haven't changed from last time is a new HD, I don't think that really matters, after all I got banned doing the steps exactly once already
Also, for those of you that are wanting their old GTs, just call up XBOX and cancel it. Anyone else can use that GT after the account is cancelled, and I KNOW they can't keep it flagged in case someone else wants to use it after you cancelled it. Just a thought, the lady when I called asked if I wanted to give this to someone or let anyone have it after I cancelled my first banned GT.
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 20, 2004, 04:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (dejaydreams @ Nov 19 2004, 11:17 PM) |
| The only thing I haven't changed from last time is a new HD, I don't think that really matters, after all I got banned doing the steps exactly once already |
I don't know what went wrong the first time, but I can assure you that you are going to get banned if you don't install a new unbanned HDD. If you install your old banned HDD, you WILL get banned!
Post by: dejaydreams on November 20, 2004, 04:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Nov 21 2004, 01:11 AM) |
| I don't know what went wrong the first time, but I can assure you that you are going to get banned if you don't install a new unbanned HDD. If you install your old banned HDD, you WILL get banned! |
damn...the only non-banned hd i have is the stock drive and i dont want to switch.
i thought that people were able to get on with a banned hd and a new eeprom because the hdkey was changed and that was all that needed to be changed.
Post by: smokeingit on November 20, 2004, 06:14:00 PM
so there will be no success for people with large drives.
Post by: dejaydreams on November 20, 2004, 07:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 20 2004, 08:10 PM) |
| Big drives will get banned anyways.... its a fact of life. i got a 1.0 mobo that never seen the day of light with xbox live... i installed the large hard drive installed chip formatted large drive that bought brand spanking new and new gamer tag. removed the chip went online with the new drive, new name and still got banned... so there will be no success for people with large drives. |
Angerwound has a larger drive and he just changed the HDD KEY, that's why I was wondering about it.
Good thing xmas is coming soon, I'll just ask for another xbox from my parents!
Post by: Kobe46 on November 21, 2004, 12:34:00 AM
Anyone know? and is there only 1 way to get a new EEPROM (purchase online?)
or can i just try to rip one off my friends 1.6 box, that has not gone onto live or never will go on live.
Thanks for the help
Post by: Duff Man on November 21, 2004, 01:02:00 AM
havent got a gamer tag as yet if i turned my chip off and got a gamer tag would i be banned coz im not gonna make a gamer tag if i am can some plz help.
thanks
Post by: Duff Man on November 21, 2004, 01:25:00 AM
havent got a gamer tag as yet if i turned my chip off and got a gamer tag would i be banned coz im not gonna make a gamer tag if i am can some plz help.
thanks
Post by: Acidball on November 22, 2004, 07:41:00 PM
Im going on Xbox live in two days from now...with Halo 2
My Box is a V1.6 , 200gig seagate HD (same brand as originall drive) and a xenium ice , " couple of movies and games backed up "
ITS NEVER been on LIVE ..,, EVER ,,,,,so im trying it out !
Please post any sugestions ,, " i want to help out ", " use my Xbox as an example " on what to Look for, or look out for , files i should delete or ad in , C drive etc .
Ive already read everything here , but as with everything new info always arises .
" this is why i havent gone live till now "
Im expecting NOT to get Banned ,, ( marriage theory) ,, But who knows for sure ,people are giving diferent info ,,,
if no one replies to this,, ill inform any "happenings " with this set up "
Post by: miggidy on November 23, 2004, 09:05:00 AM
I regret to inform all of you that after 2 weeks, I've been banned.
How are you doing so far CloakedHunter?
This proves the theory that M$ is now checking the HDD key
since I was using a 120 gig hdd.
It also tells us that M$ is now checking ALL Xbox's and not just flagged gamertags or Xbox units that have been banned in the past.
I got a hold of an old Xbox that isn't working, I'll extract the HDD key and apply it to my 120 gig hdd and according to the newer tuts, I should be back online.
I'll let you cats know how it goes....
Post by: clouzot on November 23, 2004, 10:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 21 2004, 03:10 AM) |
| Big drives will get banned anyways.... its a fact of life. i got a 1.0 mobo that never seen the day of light with xbox live... i installed the large hard drive installed chip formatted large drive that bought brand spanking new and new gamer tag. removed the chip went online with the new drive, new name and still got banned... so there will be no success for people with large drives. |
Wrong !
I am on with 120gb, Clean C and Clean E, all junk on F.
Running Xenium Ice with 2.0.1 os on a V1.5
Post by: clouzot on November 23, 2004, 10:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (Acidball @ Nov 23 2004, 04:37 AM) |
| OK people , Im going on Xbox live in two days from now...with Halo 2 My Box is a V1.6 , 200gig seagate HD (same brand as originall drive) and a xenium ice , " couple of movies and games backed up " ITS NEVER been on LIVE ..,, EVER ,,,,,so im trying it out ! Please post any sugestions ,, " i want to help out ", " use my Xbox as an example " on what to Look for, or look out for , files i should delete or ad in , C drive etc . Ive already read everything here , but as with everything new info always arises . " this is why i havent gone live till now " Im expecting NOT to get Banned ,, ( marriage theory) ,, But who knows for sure ,people are giving diferent info ,,, if no one replies to this,, ill inform any "happenings " with this set up " |
Just to be safe, make sure C and E are stock ! ie only M$ files. Move all the junk to your F or G
Post by: Acidball on November 23, 2004, 11:03:00 AM
should work , MS will only see a stock drive , and if they are comparing serial numbers ( taken during production ) then everything will be ok ,,,
seems way easyer to just ad my originall hard drive ..
i cant find that thread where they were discusing wich "single wire " DATA ,, and/or POWER, could be disconnected ,for HD not to function ...
this way eprom and HD /with serial would be stock ,,,
Post by: zX_Storm on November 23, 2004, 11:44:00 AM
P.S. Is what they're doing legal btw? For them to ban us? Modding your xbox is not illegal so why should be allowed to legally ban us for doing nothing wrong?
If the above sentence is out of line with rules, please remove it, but I would like my statement above to be noted please, thank you.
Thanks again to the idiot who made M$ go crazy with bans -- we all know who I'm talking about.
Post by: idc on November 23, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (zX_Storm @ Nov 23 2004, 08:40 PM) |
| P.S. Is what they're doing legal btw? For them to ban us? Modding your xbox is not illegal so why should be allowed to legally ban us for doing nothing wrong? |
When signing up to Xbox Live, the Terms and Conditions state that you must not use a modified console to access the Xbox Live servers.
So whilst modifying your Xbox is not illegal, nor is connecting to the servers with a modified Xbox, it is still in breach of the terms and conditions that all Xbox Live users agree to when the sign up for Xbox Live.
In other words, you will not be prosecuted, but they have the right to block your access for breaking the contract.
Post by: zX_Storm on November 23, 2004, 12:11:00 PM
Post by: Stryker112 on November 23, 2004, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 23, 2004, 09:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (miggidy @ Nov 23 2004, 10:01 AM) |
| Ok folks, I regret to inform all of you that after 2 weeks, I've been banned. How are you doing so far CloakedHunter? This proves the theory that M$ is now checking the HDD key since I was using a 120 gig hdd. It also tells us that M$ is now checking ALL Xbox's and not just flagged gamertags or Xbox units that have been banned in the past. I got a hold of an old Xbox that isn't working, I'll extract the HDD key and apply it to my 120 gig hdd and according to the newer tuts, I should be back online. I'll let you cats know how it goes.... |
Well, I am currently unbanned for four weeks as of tonight, with a Western Digital 120GB HDD installed.
I think Miggidy's statement about MS now checking all Gamer Tags and Xbox Live connections is not entirely true, just because I am still unbanned.
Could someone please explain to me what exactly the HDD key theory is?
Post by: Gumba on November 23, 2004, 11:26:00 PM
Basically, its not the whole eeprom which gets banned, but rather the HDD Key which is in the eeprom.
I actually think this information is interesting, but not really that critical, as you still need to get a new eeprom to get the HDD Key to replace in your current eeprom.
...
There is another, more interesting new theory I think, which is most interesting because it explains the results Marriage Theory predicts, as well as the results it doesn't predict
This theory is basically when you first go on XBL (after June, with XBL2) (as per Marriage Theory) instead of MS marrying the drive and eeprom (ahem, HDD Key) in their database, actually they marry the eeprom by writing metadata to your HD in a place which doesn't get erased by formats. Then if that data is missing when it should be there, or not missing when it shouldn't, or wrong, you get banned. This explains why peoples HDs can't be used again once they get banned.
The exciting thing is if this is true then a solution to 'restore' an HD to an XBL virgin would be to low-level format it (which you need special software... like autoclave... to do)
NOW, this new theory (which is sortof a more advanced marriage theory) has NOT been confirmed. But there are people working on confirming it as we speak
So, what this means is that the HDD Key info is interesting, but doesn't change anything, and the Marriage Theory predictions are still correct for the most part, its just that the Marriage Theory's theory of *why* the predictions work is probably wrong.
We shall see
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 24, 2004, 08:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Nov 24 2004, 12:29 AM) |
| This theory is basically when you first go on XBL (after June, with XBL2) (as per Marriage Theory) instead of MS marrying the drive and eeprom (ahem, HDD Key) in their database, actually they marry the eeprom by writing metadata to your HD in a place which doesn't get erased by formats. Then if that data is missing when it should be there, or not missing when it shouldn't, or wrong, you get banned. This explains why peoples HDs can't be used again once they get banned. The exciting thing is if this is true then a solution to 'restore' an HD to an XBL virgin would be to low-level format it (which you need special software... like autoclave... to do) |
A long time ago, A.Z.BEST had one of his friends test the low-level HDD format and it failed. I don't remember the exact details of the test, but I know it was basically what you just described. We'll of course learn more as additional tests are completed.
Like you said, we have basically answered the HOW (to get unbanned) question, now we are just trying to answer the WHY (we are getting banned) question.
Post by: smokeingit on November 24, 2004, 11:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Nov 24 2004, 12:29 AM) |
| The HDD Key theory is really jsut a refinement on the original "Your eeprom gets banned if you get banned" theory... you know, the one we've had since XBL started banning people for going on live with mod chips Basically, its not the whole eeprom which gets banned, but rather the HDD Key which is in the eeprom. I actually think this information is interesting, but not really that critical, as you still need to get a new eeprom to get the HDD Key to replace in your current eeprom. ... There is another, more interesting new theory I think, which is most interesting because it explains the results Marriage Theory predicts, as well as the results it doesn't predict This theory is basically when you first go on XBL (after June, with XBL2) (as per Marriage Theory) instead of MS marrying the drive and eeprom (ahem, HDD Key) in their database, actually they marry the eeprom by writing metadata to your HD in a place which doesn't get erased by formats. Then if that data is missing when it should be there, or not missing when it shouldn't, or wrong, you get banned. This explains why peoples HDs can't be used again once they get banned. The exciting thing is if this is true then a solution to 'restore' an HD to an XBL virgin would be to low-level format it (which you need special software... like autoclave... to do) NOW, this new theory (which is sortof a more advanced marriage theory) has NOT been confirmed. But there are people working on confirming it as we speak So, what this means is that the HDD Key info is interesting, but doesn't change anything, and the Marriage Theory predictions are still correct for the most part, its just that the Marriage Theory's theory of *why* the predictions work is probably wrong. We shall see |
well if that were the case. then the solution is simple. get the old ass MS dash board and install it. then let MS update the drive, with there software... seeing that some kernals dont support old MS dash's the only real way to test this theory is by using a 1.0 or a 1.1 mobo. i didnt think about after the fact that i got banned so many times testing different theory's. seeing that i have an 1.0 mobo and an unbanned HD... i guess i can post results tomorrow. BTW, i think AZ was trying to low level format a locked drive
Post by: Stryker112 on November 24, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
I have a version 1 xbox.
I've had it for a couple of years now
I got on live prior to having a modchip.
About a year and 2 months ago I installed a Xectutor 2.2lite+chip
2 weeks after that I installed a 120 gig maxtor harddrive
i continued playing on live
I had difficulties updating to live 2.0 so i had my friend send me his live files
I installed a Samsung 616T drive into my xbox.
continued playing on live fine
After the halo bannings I put my stock harddrive back into my xbox
i used slayers 2.6 to revert it to original retail.
I got halo 2 yesterday and played all day.
about 27 hours later I have been banned.
I have never been banned prior to this and my modchip has the on off switch so i do not believe it could have been powered on like the other chips. It must either be the xbl v2 marriage theory (which i thought to be somewhat untrue because my friend had the exact same setup as me and still got banned) or they found my modified samsung 616T dvd drive. Oh well guess i will be trying to go find a used xbox.
Post by: Gumba on November 24, 2004, 06:36:00 PM
Which just tends to backup the original Marriage Theory
Oh well, I'd still like to see some tests with trying to upgrade from an unbanned HD to a bigger HD by doing a sector copy from one to the other
Post by: luther349 on November 24, 2004, 08:45:00 PM
so in thery and more then lickly fact being his xbox was never on live befor the new hd was installed by me and was locked with the same key as his stock hd. so in his case his eprom and hd match so the marrege didnt get a devorce lol. hes never been banned from live so his gamer tage isnt flaged so if this guy hear is correct there not scanning his hd.
i think all these new systems are probly just along the lines of a more powerfull banning system for a few reasions and probly for more good then everyone sees. what i beleve is going on hear is a few things there rebanning those that replaced there eproms for having there chips on and trying to use live and they got what was coming to them for it. also these upgrades are also due to a securty flaw in xbox live this is why they are checking the dash xbe out. there was a way to get on live with a backup game i whont go into detail abought that couse it was a big secret and still is even thow it no longer works. also those who had the leak or have pirat versions of halo 2 are getting banned buy the checks in the game and they should be lined up and shot for not buying halo 2. thats one of those games you just dont steal kiddys.
wile they may be some victoms in this that did no wrong and got banned be it somene else using there system and trying to use live with chip on or something along those lines and changed there eproms and now are getting banned again even worse then last time that number is alot lower then those who where just trying to be stupid.
Post by: bagofice on November 24, 2004, 10:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Nov 24 2004, 08:23 PM) |
| well if that were the case. then the solution is simple. get the old ass MS dash board and install it. then let MS update the drive, with there software... |
Yeah, shouldn't installing old ms dash work?
Post by: X2Gamer on November 25, 2004, 12:16:00 AM
Post by: mesazoa on November 25, 2004, 01:24:00 AM
| QUOTE |
also those who had the leak or have pirat versions of halo 2 are getting banned buy the checks in the game and they should be lined up and shot for not buying halo 2. thats one of those games you just dont steal kiddys. |
way off topic but ....
That phrase bothers me so much, either you think no game should be pirated for no reason whatever, or you're of the school of thought that pirating games is 'ok', since ou may not have bought that game anyway or whatever....
I hate it when ppl make it seem like certain games should be bought and others are ok to pirate, and moreover Halo 2 if any game deserves to be pirated it IS halo 2.... bunigie is rolling in the money from MS and now even more so after their sales went through the roof and those bonus's are coming in from mr gates....
I am not for the pirating of _ANY_ games, but I just hate that statement
/rant
Post by: XboxFAN33 on November 26, 2004, 10:53:00 AM
Post by: tch2003 on November 26, 2004, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: 975873 on November 29, 2004, 10:22:00 AM
THanks
Post by: mc_365 on November 29, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
Post by: uk_dan2k on November 29, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
It was something i did a year ago i think, clicking live content in a game when the modchip was on, it nuked my xbox if i remember right.
1.0 pal xbox
matrix modchip w/ original harddrive
evoX dashboard
being reading alot of post about getting me back on need some stuff clearing up
i've ordered another eeprom (clean 1) & clean original harddrive and want to keep my GT(12 months subscription left).
i cant run my dashboard from dvd-rom is there no way of hiding it on the new harddrive without me getting banned again?
if i signed a new GT could i keep evoX dash on there or will i get banned again?
if it comes down to having to swap harddrives around when i want to play xbl and when i want evoX dash running, will i have to keep flashing the old & new eeproms to match the old & new harddrives when they are swapped around?
thanks,
Post by: AzimAli on November 29, 2004, 08:15:00 PM
This post has been edited by AzimAli: Nov 30 2004, 04:22 AM
Post by: Gumba on November 29, 2004, 11:53:00 PM
BUT there have been reports of success using an unbanned but not virgin stock HD with a different EEPROM.
Also, you could try doing a low-level format on the drive.
Post by: feet14 on November 30, 2004, 04:21:00 AM
Post by: goober0709 on November 30, 2004, 06:03:00 AM
if ya can, i owe u a beer
Thanks!
Post by: feet14 on November 30, 2004, 07:55:00 AM
| QUOTE (goober0709 @ Nov 30 2004, 02:06 PM) |
| my question is how do you put a new eeprom in a factory hdd?? i've purchased my new eeprom but doing a clean install from slayers 2.6 on my factory hdd gives me no way to use configmagic....i'm totally confused and stayed up half the night because of this. Also, i can only run configmagic from my slayers 2.6 disc....i can't just install the software into my hdd even if i do a complete install of dash, apps, etc....can ya help me w/ that one? if ya can, i owe u a beer Thanks! |
Use Qwix to extract the Slayer ISO to C:\ on your PC. Save your eeprom.bin file to C:\SlaYers_EvoX_Auto-Installer_v2.6FINAL\SYSTEM\ALL\ConfigMagic\Data and say yes to the overwrite file prompt. Then use Qwix to compile a new ISO from C:\SlaYers_EvoX_Auto-Installer_v2.6FINAL. Burn the ISO, boot up Xbox, load Configmagic. Unlock HD, choose "Load EEPROM from .bin file", Lock HD.
Post by: miggidy on November 30, 2004, 08:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Nov 24 2004, 06:24 AM) |
| Well, I am currently unbanned for four weeks as of tonight, with a Western Digital 120GB HDD installed. I think Miggidy's statement about MS now checking all Gamer Tags and Xbox Live connections is not entirely true, just because I am still unbanned. Could someone please explain to me what exactly the HDD key theory is? |
There's only one other thing I can think of, the new mandatory XBL download for Halo 2.
Have you been playing Halo 2 online Cloaked? (the retail version of course for u noobs)
If not, then this might be the answer as to why I was banned.
Even though it was a few days after, there's a good chance it was this download that took me out.
I heard M$ has admitted that the new download helps track down modded Xbox units....
Currently, I'm tryin to get back online with a new Xbox and a 200 gig hdd.
New gamertag of course.
If all goes well, I should never have to worry about getting banned again,
that is if I don't fuck up and log on Live with my chip on....
But if I end up getting banned again, then it's definately the new Halo 2 download that allows M$ to do a more extensive check on your hard drive.
Upgraded HDD's that is....
This post has been edited by miggidy: Nov 30 2004, 04:52 PM
Post by: g0tr3wt23 on November 30, 2004, 09:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Nov 30 2004, 08:49 AM) |
| Marriage Theory says you will be banned. BUT there have been reports of success using an unbanned but not virgin stock HD with a different EEPROM. Also, you could try doing a low-level format on the drive. |
Why would you recommend doing a low level format? If MS is scanning partitions, that doesn't have anything to do with an MBR scan which they wouldn't do in the first place... you couldn't prove anything with it. No one should ever need to do a low level format unless they've been tagged with an mbr virus or they're afraid of their hard drive getting "investigated"... as in... by the FBI if you expect your house is gonna get raided. :-p
Post by: alg20 on November 30, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: CloakedHunter on November 30, 2004, 03:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (miggidy @ Nov 30 2004, 09:40 AM) |
| There's only one other thing I can think of, the new mandatory XBL download for Halo 2. Have you been playing Halo 2 online Cloaked? (the retail version of course for u noobs) If not, then this might be the answer as to why I was banned. Even though it was a few days after, there's a good chance it was this download that took me out. I heard M$ has admitted that the new download helps track down modded Xbox units.... Currently, I'm tryin to get back online with a new Xbox and a 200 gig hdd. New gamertag of course. If all goes well, I should never have to worry about getting banned again, that is if I don't fuck up and log on Live with my chip on.... But if I end up getting banned again, then it's definately the new Halo 2 download that allows M$ to do a more extensive check on your hard drive. Upgraded HDD's that is.... |
Miggidy,
Yes, I have played the retail version of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I have installed both the initial update as well as the second update that was just released. I have been playing Halo 2 on Xbox Live since November 9th, and I am currently unbanned for exactly five weeks as of tonight.
So, no, I don't think it has anything to do with the Halo 2 updates.
Post by: ororick on November 30, 2004, 03:48:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: goober0709 on November 30, 2004, 05:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (feet14 @ Nov 30 2004, 04:58 PM) |
| Use Qwix to extract the Slayer ISO to C:\ on your PC. Save your eeprom.bin file to C:\SlaYers_EvoX_Auto-Installer_v2.6FINAL\SYSTEM\ALL\ConfigMagic\Data and say yes to the overwrite file prompt. Then use Qwix to compile a new ISO from C:\SlaYers_EvoX_Auto-Installer_v2.6FINAL. Burn the ISO, boot up Xbox, load Configmagic. Unlock HD, choose "Load EEPROM from .bin file", Lock HD. |
ok i tried that but my xbox isn't reading my cdr even though i have a samsung 605. i know i'm close to getting this done, but still no luck.....omg i'm pissed
Post by: Gumba on November 30, 2004, 05:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (g0tr3wt23 @ Nov 30 2004, 05:59 PM) |
| Why would you recommend doing a low level format? If MS is scanning partitions, that doesn't have anything to do with an MBR scan which they wouldn't do in the first place... you couldn't prove anything with it. No one should ever need to do a low level format unless they've been tagged with an mbr virus or they're afraid of their hard drive getting "investigated"... as in... by the FBI if you expect your house is gonna get raided. :-p |
Okay, there is one new theory which is basically that the marriage data is recorded locally... possibly in the MBR.
If you low-level format a drive you virginize it. Then providing that you use a virgin EEPROM you can take it back on Live.
This has been confirmed, but I wouldn't say rigorously yet.
Post by: ydgmms on November 30, 2004, 06:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (miggidy @ Nov 30 2004, 05:40 PM) |
| There's only one other thing I can think of, the new mandatory XBL download for Halo 2. Have you been playing Halo 2 online Cloaked? (the retail version of course for u noobs) If not, then this might be the answer as to why I was banned. Even though it was a few days after, there's a good chance it was this download that took me out. I heard M$ has admitted that the new download helps track down modded Xbox units.... Currently, I'm tryin to get back online with a new Xbox and a 200 gig hdd. New gamertag of course. If all goes well, I should never have to worry about getting banned again, that is if I don't fuck up and log on Live with my chip on.... But if I end up getting banned again, then it's definately the new Halo 2 download that allows M$ to do a more extensive check on your hard drive. Upgraded HDD's that is.... |
Its nothing to do w/ Halo2.
I hadn't played Halo 2 until Turkey Day. But I was banned weeks before.
Post by: miggidy on December 01, 2004, 04:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Dec 1 2004, 12:16 AM) |
| Miggidy, Yes, I have played the retail version of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I have installed both the initial update as well as the second update that was just released. I have been playing Halo 2 on Xbox Live since November 9th, and I am currently unbanned for exactly five weeks as of tonight. So, no, I don't think it has anything to do with the Halo 2 updates. |
Damn I'm still puzzled as to how they got me....
Oh well, I got a hold of a new xbox with a new 200 gig hd and a new Live account.
Played fine last night, and everything should be fine when I get home tonight.
Now if I get banned again then I'll have to conclude that M$ is keeping tabs on our Live account user details.
I've been using different credit cards with slightly altered names, but my address has remained the same.
We'll see what happens....
This post has been edited by miggidy: Dec 2 2004, 12:40 AM
Post by: miggidy on December 01, 2004, 08:35:00 PM
I'm still puzzled as to how and why I was banned last week.
Oh well....
Post by: TECbox on December 01, 2004, 09:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (goober0709 @ Dec 1 2004, 02:33 AM) |
| ok i tried that but my xbox isn't reading my cdr even though i have a samsung 605. i know i'm close to getting this done, but still no luck.....omg i'm pissed |
Make sure you use a cd-rw not cdr. None of the xbox dvd drives read cdr (I know a select few drive can read a few select media brands, but thats it)
Post by: goober0709 on December 03, 2004, 05:47:00 PM
Post by: deacon187 on December 03, 2004, 09:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (TECbox @ Dec 1 2004, 11:54 PM) |
| Make sure you use a cd-rw not cdr. None of the xbox dvd drives read cdr (I know a select few drive can read a few select media brands, but thats it) |
my original xbox sammy reads anything and everything not matter what media ive used thus far has worked fine, and when making boot disks ive never used a dummy file ever
Post by: ombouwweert on December 03, 2004, 11:31:00 PM
because if you format it with slayers disk, it will be using a .bin file off the disk, with another hdd-key then your own hdd-key on your retail hdd disk.....
so concluding, your disk will be formatted and locked with an invalid/ or already banned key!!
i don't say i'm 100% right, but i believe you all need to read more before taking any actions......because if you lose your original retail disk hdd-key, you can't easily get a new working registered one to get on live again!!!
offcourse all steps off this solution guide are correct, because you need to remove every non proper files on C and E, and put them on F where the original bios can;t find em!!!
Post by: ThaG on December 06, 2004, 01:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (ombouwweert @ Dec 4 2004, 08:27 AM) |
| this is plain stupid, after readin a whole bunch off shit, it seems slayers disk get's ppl banned with their disk within 24hours... because if you format it with slayers disk, it will be using a .bin file off the disk, with another hdd-key then your own hdd-key on your retail hdd disk..... so concluding, your disk will be formatted and locked with an invalid/ or already banned key!! i don't say i'm 100% right, but i believe you all need to read more before taking any actions......because if you lose your original retail disk hdd-key, you can't easily get a new working registered one to get on live again!!! offcourse all steps off this solution guide are correct, because you need to remove every non proper files on C and E, and put them on F where the original bios can;t find em!!! |
Don't think this is correct. The disk.bin on the slayer disc is empty.
Anyway, the disk.bin does not contain a HD-key (as far as I know)
, the EEPROM contains the HD-key.Disk.bin
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Serial Number
Gamertag
EEPROM
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HD-Key
So if you use your own disk.bin, I think M$ will at least see your flagged gamertag and do extensive HD-search/checks/whatever..
If you use the disk.bin from the slayers disk, it is like using a 'virgin' disk.bin (never been on LIVE).
So, I don't think using the slayers disk.bin will get you banned. Heck, I even think using your own will get you banned earlier (because of the flagged GT).
Could the pro's give their opinion about this (what disk.bin to use). Linox?? Angerwound??
Post by: miggidy on December 06, 2004, 08:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (ombouwweert @ Dec 4 2004, 08:27 AM) |
| this is plain stupid, after readin a whole bunch off shit, it seems slayers disk get's ppl banned with their disk within 24hours... |
There's some people in here who have been up for over a month now.
Both on upgraded HDD's and retail HDD's (using Slayer's 2.6).
I for one have been up for about a week now on an upgraded HDD.
I expect to be online for as long as I don't screw up and forget to turn my chip off. Or when M$ decides to scan "every" Live account for upgraded HDD's....
Until then, I'll be having a blast playing Halo 2 online....
Post by: feet14 on December 06, 2004, 08:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (miggidy @ Dec 6 2004, 03:58 PM) |
| There's some people in here who have been up for over a month now. Both on upgraded HDD's and retail HDD's (using Slayer's 2.6). I for one have been up for about a week now on an upgraded HDD. I expect to be online for as long as I don't screw up and forget to turn my chip off. Or when M$ decides to scan "every" Live account for upgraded HDD's.... Until then, I'll be having a blast playing Halo 2 online.... |
Same here - Slayer's worked fine on my stock HD, been going since 12th Nov.
Post by: solid7x2 on December 06, 2004, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: uk_dan2k on December 07, 2004, 05:03:00 PM
full install/rebuild retail HD - 5960
restore retail xbox HD to factory
?
Post by: feet14 on December 08, 2004, 06:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (uk_dan2k @ Dec 8 2004, 12:59 AM) |
| i have the slayer disc but which format option do i use full install/rebuild retail HD - 5960 restore retail xbox HD to factory ? |
Backup all your savegames. Choose option
3b2) RESTORE RETAIL XBOX HD TO FACTORY
which does a complete format of c,e,x,y,z and copies only the files found on a retail HD. It installs the 5960 dash. It also uses a blank disk.bin file so all "cookies" on the HD will be erased. I'm assuming you are using a retail HD.
Post by: uk_dan2k on December 08, 2004, 06:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (feet14 @ Dec 8 2004, 03:08 PM) |
| Backup all your savegames. Choose option 3b2) RESTORE RETAIL XBOX HD TO FACTORY which does a complete format of c,e,x,y,z and copies only the files found on a retail HD. It installs the 5960 dash. It also uses a blank disk.bin file so all "cookies" on the HD will be erased. I'm assuming you are using a retail HD. |
thanks m8
Post by: CloakedHunter on December 14, 2004, 09:58:00 PM
Hopefully that's a sign that people are learning more and finding it easier to become unbanned.
Personally, I've been unbanned for exactly 49 days (seven weeks) as of tonight.
Congratulations to those who have beaten MS to the ground by getting unbanned without having to purchase a new Xbox, and Good Luck to those still fighting!
Post by: rossarmstrong on December 17, 2004, 08:22:00 PM
I am back up and running for last four hours.
Let's hope it last much longer.
Post by: Sogay toregister on December 17, 2004, 11:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Nov 2 2004, 05:59 PM) |
| THIS THREAD IS DEDICATED TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE ONLY!!! This thread is a branch from the disastrous forty page thread in this forum, and the following procedure is basically the primary solution derived from that entire thread. So, if you are still unable to become unbanned from Xbox Live, test the following procedure. If you follow these steps EXACTLY, you should be able to become unbanned from Xbox Live! 1. Acquire and install a new unbanned HDD. 2. Format the HDD and install the retail MS Dashboard using Slayers 2.6. 3. Acquire and install a new unbanned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic. 4. Register a new Xbox Live account using a different GT. (CRITICAL!!!) You do not have to do step four if and only if you are installing an unbanned stock HDD. Do not copy anything directly from your old HDD. Install all software fresh and copy any saved games using a memory card. If you test the above procedure, try to follow the steps EXACTLY. If you cannot, note what you did differently. After completing the above procedure, be sure to post your detailed test results. If you were able to follow the steps exactly, be sure to vote above indicating success or failure. And lastly, GOOD LUCK!!! |
Even if you do all those step your going to need a different credit/debit card... I recommend using a relative because you can probably be flagged again.
Post by: rossarmstrong on December 18, 2004, 12:18:00 PM
I did use a different credit card just in case it was a factor. But I kept the same address because I assume it needs to match the credit card billing address.
I enjoy the ease of use and speed of starting a game better with Xlink Kia and Ava/XBMC. But, there is a different selection of playing locations and the speech works better on Xbox Live.
Just my thoughts.
Happy holidays everyone!
Post by: kingnbajam on December 26, 2004, 01:48:00 AM
I want to give the outlined method in this topic a try too, to get unbanned again.
I have a few questions though, before making an attempt:
1) I want to get on xbox live again with my old banned GT. If I change to a original stock HDD with unbanned EEPROM and all original files on my HDD again, can I get back on xbox live??
2) What if I want to get unbanned with my old GT, but also with my old savegames on the banned HDD, can I copy those savegames to the new stock/unbanned HDD again, after I get on xbox live succesfully??
The most important part for me is to get unbanned with my old GT on a modded xbox. If I can get back on xbox-live again with my old GT, I don't need a larger HDD. Hope someone can give me that last bit of information, before I screw up again
Post by: dalime on December 26, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
1. Using banned large HDD, Flash in new eeprom - banned withing 12 hours
2. Reconfigure sectors on banned large HDD using blank disk.bin, flash new eeprom, recover OLD gametag - banned withing 12 hours
3. Reconfigure sectors on banned large HDD using blank disk.bin, flash new eeprom, create NEW gametag - banned withing 12 hours.
3. Reconfigure sectors on banned STOCK HDD using blank disk.bin, flash new eeprom, create NEW gametag - this worked for about two weeks until I wanted my large HDD back, so I did the following:
4. Backed up disk.bin (with unbanned account info) and drive partitions from unbanned STOCK HDD, reconfigured banned LARGE HDD using the valid disk.bin from my stocker, FTP'd drive partitions, flashed new eeprom, transferred account from memory card - banned within 12 hours.
5. About a week ago I put in a brand new 120gb HDD, did a F: install using Slayer's 2.6, flashed new eeprom, created new account, and I've been good ever since. I did the Halo2 update yesterday and I'm still on this morning, so I figure I'm good.
Post by: dalime on December 26, 2004, 09:39:00 AM
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1) I want to get on xbox live again with my old banned GT. If I change to a original stock HDD with unbanned EEPROM and all original files on my HDD again, can I get back on xbox live??
2) What if I want to get unbanned with my old GT, but also with my old savegames on the banned HDD, can I copy those savegames to the new stock/unbanned HDD again, after I get on xbox live succesfully??
2) What if I want to get unbanned with my old GT, but also with my old savegames on the banned HDD, can I copy those savegames to the new stock/unbanned HDD again, after I get on xbox live succesfully??
1. The general concensus is that you'll be ok using your old gametag and a stock drive. I can't say for certain as I've never done it.
2. Your save data has nothing to do with your live account. You can back up your TDATA and UDATA folders on your E:\ and transfer them to the new drive.
Post by: kingnbajam on December 26, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
QUOTE(dalime @ Dec 26 2004, 06:10 PM)
1. The general concensus is that you'll be ok using your old gametag and a stock drive. I can't say for certain as I've never done it.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: RoCk-Box on December 26, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
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yo , i replaced old eeprom/hdd (from my old box) on my new box , and im back on , both eeprom and hdd are stock , never seperated , but also never married
andive been up for the past 3 days . i was just wondering , can i switch to an unlocked hdd (80 gig unlocked) to run avalanch and stepmaniaX and such , then switch back to original stock drive when i wanna go online and not be banned ??
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: dalime on December 26, 2004, 03:36:00 PM
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IMHO You'll get banned. Other people have been successful though.
Here are some helpful threads:
HDD Key Theory
Marriage Theory
Marriage/Local Marriage Theory
It's a long read but informative. It's really hard to say what's going on. As you can see from my post, things that have worked for others don't work for everybody. All you can do is read the threads on the board and try to make an informed decision.
Now they are.
Right now this is the only fool proof way not to get banned, other than having a second unmodded XBOX dedicated to live.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: RoCk-Box on December 26, 2004, 03:45:00 PM
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o thats totally cool , il leave my top of case open , (closed but no screws) and swap whenever i want to , its not much of a hasstle people are so lazy these days but ill wont be banned ever unless i go on with wrong hd which i wont! or go on with chip oin which i WONT!
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Calpico on January 01, 2005, 03:16:00 AM
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I was banned for switching my HDD to a larger one but did not change the eeprom. I got a new eeprom, new WD250gig drive and a new GT. I used the F: install from Slayers (stealth) and have been successfully on live for 2 days now.
XBOX v1.0
Xecuter3
Western Digital 250 gig
New Gamertg
Slayers F: boot Install (stealth)
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Calpico on January 12, 2005, 02:30:00 AM
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Im still online with this setup
I guess thats why nobody is posting anymore, kuz everybody is on.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: kingnbajam on January 13, 2005, 03:41:00 AM
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this is a noob question, but what is this F: install from Slayer's 2.6?? What does this do?
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Lord Magnus on January 14, 2005, 05:48:00 AM
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Post by: RoCk-Box on December 26, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
andive been up for the past 3 days . i was just wondering , can i switch to an unlocked hdd (80 gig unlocked) to run avalanch and stepmaniaX and such , then switch back to original stock drive when i wanna go online and not be banned
??Post by: dalime on December 26, 2004, 03:36:00 PM
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Thanks bro. What if I try out your method nr. 5 and first get on live again with a stock HDD and my old GT and then swapping to a larger HDD (with files from stock HDD copied to large HDD)?
IMHO You'll get banned. Other people have been successful though.
Here are some helpful threads:
HDD Key Theory
Marriage Theory
Marriage/Local Marriage Theory
It's a long read but informative. It's really hard to say what's going on. As you can see from my post, things that have worked for others don't work for everybody. All you can do is read the threads on the board and try to make an informed decision.
QUOTE
both eeprom and hdd are stock , never seperated , but also never married
Now they are.
QUOTE
i was just wondering , can i switch to an unlocked hdd (80 gig unlocked) to run avalanch and stepmaniaX and such , then switch back to original stock drive when i wanna go online and not be banned ??
Right now this is the only fool proof way not to get banned, other than having a second unmodded XBOX dedicated to live.
Post by: RoCk-Box on December 26, 2004, 03:45:00 PM
but ill wont be banned ever unless i go on with wrong hd which i wont! or go on with chip oin which i WONT!
Post by: Calpico on January 01, 2005, 03:16:00 AM
XBOX v1.0
Xecuter3
Western Digital 250 gig
New Gamertg
Slayers F: boot Install (stealth)
Post by: Calpico on January 12, 2005, 02:30:00 AM
I guess thats why nobody is posting anymore, kuz everybody is on.
Post by: kingnbajam on January 13, 2005, 03:41:00 AM
Post by: Lord Magnus on January 14, 2005, 05:48:00 AM
QUOTE(kingnbajam @ Jan 13 2005, 12:12 PM)
this is a noob question, but what is this F: install from Slayer's 2.6?? What does this do?
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: gunit202 on January 15, 2005, 05:57:00 PM
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Is it possible to jus change the harddrive key with configmagic with a differnt harddrive key...?
b/c my frend had a soft mod xbox ver 1.4 n he cant get on live so can i just copy his harddrive key..?
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: mixar on January 18, 2005, 09:22:00 AM
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i was banned around june/ july and now just got an eeprom to fix my xbox with. does anyone know if they were tracking hard drives at that time because i do not want to purchase a new hard drive.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Calpico on January 19, 2005, 01:11:00 AM
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yes if were banned you will need an new hdd
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: jonnyv on January 23, 2005, 10:56:00 AM
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Just to add my bit :
I have been running an xbox with a chip (switched off) on Live for ages, all the rest of the machine is as MS intended it. Ie original HDD etc.
One day (after a few beers) i switched the xbox on only to find I was banned (turns out I left the chip on - clever)
Luckily for me I had another EEPROM , which I installed and was back on Live , for about 12 hours when i got banned again. I'm presuming this is because I didnt change my HDD over to an unseen "virigin" model ?
Anyway thats my story.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: aqmlswnk on January 23, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
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Step 1 is okay
Step 2 - I think - it would be better if you just downlaod your original Bios from Xbins and then Flash it.
Step 3 - Correct
Step 4 - Exactly - it's better.
What I did was - I got a new HDD and new unbanned Eeprom (from Zodiiak $10 each) then upgrade HDD - update EEprom - downlaod original biops from Xbins - create new Xbox Live account - and no problems at all.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: SMH Command on January 26, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
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I got banned because xbox dash tryed to connect while I had the chip on, I pulled the plug but seemly not fast enough. That means my eeprom and hd are banned, but is my gt flagged? I have two gt on the box and they are both pass protected, so how could they know my gt if I did not sign in?
I am planning to swap my xbox with a friend, his is also modded but has the stock HD and has never been on live, therefore his box is not even registered on live. Do you guys think it is safe to use my old GT on this box?
Another quick one: If my GT is flagged and I take it to another modded xbox which is currently not banned, will my flagged GT get my friends box banned?
Thanx
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: FlashKick on March 25, 2005, 02:19:00 AM
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yeah, your flagged account may get your friend's xbox banned.
if you recently got banned, you'll have to follow the steps outlined in the earlier pages.
goodluck!
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Xanium4332 on April 12, 2005, 02:00:00 PM
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Hi, I've been banned recently, and I'm going to get a new EEPROM, Hard-Drive and gamer tag, but I also want to have a fully working evox etc.., should I get a bios that can launch evox from the F: partition, so it is hidden, and if so, does anyone know of a bios that can do this AND has xbox live protection built in, I know the x2 4981/4983 has inbuilt Live protection, and the New Evox 8 blah (cnt remember name exatly) can boot evox from F: but does anyone know of a bios that does BOTH, or of a way to change the the x2 4983 so it can boot from f:
Any info would be appreciated,
Regards, Xanium4322
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: prplehz on April 12, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
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Just make your own with 4981 and xbtool.. Then you can make it just how you want it.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: feet14 on April 16, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
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Well said, my friend. Who cares about a modchip between {enemies/friends} when you're buying shrink-wrapped legit copies. The ALX+ R2 is a damn fine modchip.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: jaysrt4 on May 10, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
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Well heres a question. If I want a new gamer tag for live do I have to pay for the subscription over again or can I use the same account. Like do I have to make a whole new setup I just freaking bought my subscription and I guess I left the chip on.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: neverbefore on May 10, 2005, 05:50:00 PM
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Same sort of deal happened with me (I have eight months left on my sub).
It is my understanding from the last two days of doing research and posting that you can use the same gamertag on your xbox as long as you get a new hard drive (must be a stock hard drive) and a new, virgin eeprom. The hard drive must be for an xbox (or at least the same size, contents, etc.) but the eeprom must be virgin to xbox live as well.
Also, I want to know whether or not I could still use xbox live if I still have my chip physically in my xbox but just in 'live safe mode'
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Ghost_13 on May 12, 2005, 12:01:00 AM
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i have a quick question, i have bought and installed my new 120gig WD hdd today. i still want to play on live, i have not been banned yet, so i wanted to know if i have to get a new eeprom, and if i can still use my same account?
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: lordvader129 on May 12, 2005, 12:30:00 AM
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flash a new virgin eeprom and youll be fine
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: friedrice on May 12, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
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My understanding is that you DO NOT need to get a new hard drive. You only need a new EEPROM and a new GamerTag thing (basically set up a new live account). This is so since you are banned by your EEPROM not your HHD number.
Well, this is what i'm going to try anyway. Let me know otherwise please before I have to spend another $10 on a new eeprom
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: CloakedHunter on May 12, 2005, 09:40:00 PM
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Actually, you are incorrect. In fact, upon connecting to Xbox Live, your EEPROM and HDD are "married." This means, to become unbanned, you will need a new unbanned EEPROM, a new unbanned HDD, and a new GT (unless you intend to install a stock HDD). Reference the first post in this thread for the exact process to become unbanned. Good Luck!
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: BlackVenym on May 13, 2005, 02:21:00 PM
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The exciting thing is if this is true then a solution to 'restore' an HD to an XBL virgin would be to low-level format it (which you need special software... like autoclave... to do)
so if i do a low level format.
get a new EEPROM.
and get a new GT.
what are the odds of it working.
(how hard is it to use autoclave?)
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: CloakedHunter on May 13, 2005, 03:45:00 PM
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I have yet to see any success with low-level formatting. It is actually the serial number of your HDD that is banned, so a low-level format would not change anything. Simply, you should get a new HDD. To be certain, you may want to find and ask Gumba, as he was doing some tests with this. Good Luck!
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: lordvader129 on May 13, 2005, 04:15:00 PM
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actually i dont think theres nay need at all to 're-virginize" HDs, MS doesnt seem to care if the HDs are used with multiple eeproms, just the eeproms can only be used with 1 HD (MS is scanning for HD changes, not eeprom changes)
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: BlackVenym on May 13, 2005, 04:27:00 PM
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what about having Avalaunch on C and emu on E
wil that matter
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: lordvader129 on May 13, 2005, 04:37:00 PM
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doesnt matter
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: jaysrt4 on May 16, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
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So now heres something I noticed. Before I was banned my IP for the xbox was 192.168.0.102 After I was banned it automatically changed itself to 192.168.0.100 Now I think when you get banned that xbox does something to our eeprom to make it change the ip address. After I installed a new hard drive the ip address was still .100 but after the new eeprom was installed I got .102 back as the ip address and I didnt change anything else. Now I was wondering if theres some way to look at what is inside the eeprom to see if they "Tag" that eeprom or change it to make the ip change. Has anyone looked into this yet?
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: lordvader129 on May 16, 2005, 03:53:00 PM
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the new eeprom contains a new MAC address for the network card, on the network it appears to be an entirely different device so your router assigned it a new IP address
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: neverbefore on May 21, 2005, 09:41:00 PM
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Good method here, tried it and it has worked for 4 days now. I skipped the last step because I wanted to use my old gamertag, so I got a stock hard drive and used it. Thanks alot for everyone's help.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Jack The Lad on May 28, 2005, 04:27:00 PM
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About flagged gamertags.
I know you say you cannot use the same one but what about getting a new one with a similar GT, for example if you had J1mB0B that was flagged then got a new one called Jimbob 69 or Jimbob Overlord ? would that be o.k or would it get flagged automaticly because it is similar ?
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: manobano on May 28, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
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that is one of the stupidest questions i have ever heard. why wud they bana 'similiar' gt??? that doesnt make any sense....
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Jack The Lad on May 28, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
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i said flagged not ban & you never know with these gits.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: manobano on May 28, 2005, 05:07:00 PM
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1st of all...what are gits??? and it wudnt matter either way, why wud they flag a gamertag just cuz its similar to another alrdy flagged gt??? so if my gamertag is poophead and im flagged, and then someone makes poophead23 they get flagged??? thats stupid why would they do that....????
This post has been edited by manobano: May 29 2005, 12:07 AM
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Chux on May 29, 2005, 08:48:00 AM
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I have an old stock HDD, but it's been made into a mod hdd, I have my 120 in and I got banned twice in two days (Should have read this thread) How can I make the old 10 gigger back into a regular MS hdd.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Chux on May 29, 2005, 08:50:00 AM
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Also of note, my previous, smaller hdd has never been banned.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: lordvader129 on May 29, 2005, 10:27:00 AM
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get a new eeprom, use slayers to restore the 10gb to factory setting
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Chux on May 29, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
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Sounds good.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: dude696zan on June 01, 2005, 07:45:00 AM
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Yay it works woot. I did all of the steps. you can ask me in xbox live if u need help my GT is: Operation Theta
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: vampirexxi on June 01, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
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a dumb question - how do you change your gamertag? or don't you? you just set up a new account? if that's the case, why wouldn't m$ register your name/address/cc#, etc w the new tag and banned info?
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: lordvader129 on June 01, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
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you have to set up a new account
MS doesnt flag addresses or CC numbers (why i dont know, maybe legally they cant blacklist an address like that)
personally i always thought they banned from Live, but made it relatively easy to get back on so we keep paying our subscriptions, lol
This post has been edited by lordvader129: Jun 1 2005, 06:40 PM
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: feet14 on June 02, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
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personally i always thought they banned from Live, but made it relatively easy to get back on so we keep paying our subscriptions, lol
lol, sounds right B)
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: malevolent000 on June 03, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
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What if you replace step 4 with account recovery from your current account? Anyone tried this yet??
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Chux on June 03, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
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If I use configmagic to switch the eeprom, then put in the old hd, run slayers from a dvd to restore my old 10 gigger back to normal, if I put in my 80 gig, I'll still be good for my offline stuff, right? (I'm just saying my switch will still work and I'll still have my ms dash and unleash)
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: denvercg on June 28, 2005, 10:44:00 AM
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Hello,
I have moded my XBOX with the Executer 3 CE, installed a new 200 gigs HD. Everything worked great. I had to restore my account with Xbox Live which work for a couples of day. I did not format nor add any files to my new HD prior to restoring my account.
Let me recap:
1) Xbox 1.1
2) XBL account setup prior to modding
3) Modded Xbox
3) Installed new 200 gigs HD
4) Installed Hacked BIOS
5) I did not load any new Dashboard.
6) Restore my XBL account.
7) Played games for a couple of days
8) Got a message Stating that I had changed my hardware and should send my xbox for repair.
9) Re-intalled original HD
10) New message "Network Error Cannot connect to XBL" (this is not the exact term but you get the picture) This probably tells me that I am banned?
Is this the way for MS to tell you that you are banned? Can someone tell me if this is correct?
I tested my network and it working fine.
Ok I just bought a very unexpensive Xbox.
Now here is my question.
Can I restore my account with my banned name tag on my new xbox?
As for my modded banned xbox:
Where can I buy a new eeprom?
Do not tell me to take it from the xbox that I just bought, because I would like to test my modded xbox with out going live. I have not been able to load the Evolution X dashboard yet. This is an other problem that I will have to resolve, some time in the futur.
Can someone help me with these three questions.
Sorry about the long post.
Thank very much.
This post has been edited by denvercg: Jun 28 2005, 05:51 PM
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: clouzot on June 28, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
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Here is your mistake !!!!
2) XBL account setup prior to modding
You are banned.
You must mod your box before you ever connect it to xbl !
As soon as you set-up your account, XBL record EEPROM and HDD info.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: denvercg on June 28, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
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DR. Clouzot,
Thank you, for you help. My even bigger mistake is that before doing the mod I should of research more on the subject. My bad "Live and Learn".
Now about my two other questions, any input? Or should I find where to get that eeprom by myself? Is it tabou to ask this question?
So to try to answer my other question, Before I set a new account with MS Live with the Xbox I have just bought, I should do the modding install a new HD (not the one I was tagged with in first place) and only then go with registering a new account with XBL. Is this correct?
This brings a new question.
I think I have read somewhere in this thread, that XLB could find the capacity of my new HD and its serial number. Is this correct?
I think if this is true then I would be tagged again.
Please let me know.
Thank you.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Spasm on June 29, 2005, 11:47:00 PM
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OK, I'm working on getting my buddies Xbox unbanned. I've put in a brand new 120gig HD. Used Slayer's to restore it to factory with an F: drive, and am going to put a new eeprom on in the next couple of days and plan on registering a brand new XBL account.
I've installed Avalaunch and all my apps to the F: drive only. The problem is, Avalaunch, MameOX and other apps keep writing files to the E:\TDATA folder. Is this something that's going to get the box banned again, or do I not need to worry about it. If it is something to worry about, how do I get those apps to quit shitting on my stealth install?
I've searched the docs and the forums for Avalaunch and MameOX with no luck.
Sorry if this has already been covered.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: wolvorine4424 on August 03, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
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I have a v1.3 or 1.4 box... (i think it's a 1.3)
Running an X-Bit chip, 350GB HDD as MOD.
I need a new/neverused eeprom... I already have a new 12gb hd...
E-mail me if you have one i can get from you...
If it works out good, i will get 2+ more eeproms just as a safety, if i get banned again...
I got banned because i let my friend borrow my box and he went online with it...
And after i checked it, He coppied my account from the live HDD to the modded HDD to play some game i loaded from the internet... His excuse was, I wanted to play it so bad.... SMACK, DAMN KIDS...
He did this after i gave him a lecture for about an hour, what he can and cannot do on each HDD and how to power the box to Orriginal/Live and MOD chip Bois...
Roman
[email protected]
[email protected]
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Jrgong420 on September 25, 2005, 09:58:00 PM
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I was banned(I'm a stoner so I can't remember if it was b/c I tried to go online with my upgraded hdd or there was something on my previously softmodded stock hdd anyway hopefully shouldn't matter why). I then took the hdd I was banned on (stock) reformatted using slayers back to the original M$ dash, changed eeprom registered new GT and I was banned agian, in the interim I had been changing eeproms to install an upgraded hdd for a freind but I never went online until my original eeprom was back on the xbox. I don't cheat on live in any way shape or form I think that it defeats the purpose. Next time I changed the eeprom I made sure to keep my upgraded hdd on the banned eeprom and I kept the stock hdd on an unbanned eeprom. I was promptly banned(which after reading this forum I understand why,. I just can't figure out why I was banned in the first place.). I was using an x3ce on a v1.0 always disabled for online play and xbl blocking option on, I would switch between evox 2.6 bios and x3 3294 occasionally. What exactly should I do to prevent being banned again, I have multiple stock hdd that have unfortunatly already been online. I read the initial instructions on how to prevent banning but I figured that reformatting and new GT would have done the trick the first time I changed my eeprom. And I'm sorry if an answer to my problem has already been posted, I'm trying right now to read all of the posts in this thread as we speak but there is quite a few of them. Any explanation would be appreciated.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: lordvader129 on September 25, 2005, 10:09:00 PM
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you need a stock HD that has not been abnned (its ok if its been online)
or
a new HD of any size and a new gamertag
with both options youll need a neww virgin eeprom
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Jrgong420 on October 03, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
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Yeah thanks lordvader I should have checked your post on the marriage theory earlier. Well thats what I get for not researching my shit. Appreciate the help now I just gotta scrounge up a virgen eeprom and I'm set.
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: bigboss745 on October 04, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
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okay sorry guys if this is annoying but i just want to clarafy one thing if i have a hard drive taken from an xbox that has never been online and put it in my xbox create a new gamer tag will i be able to go online
p.s i was banned b4
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: bigboss745 on October 04, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
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i finally got my hands on a hard drive that has been online can i put it in my xbox and create a new account and be able to go online, the hard drvie has never been online and im gonna create a new gt
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: Salblock on October 07, 2005, 01:40:00 PM
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Ok so i have a brand new xbox soft modded running evox 3095 and a 160gb WD. The xbox has never been online, the question i have if i sign online can MS detect my hard drive/softmodd and will they ban me? If i just get a new gamer tag will it be ok? and IN evox I can load the stock bios, should i start the game through this to not get banned or can i go from evox?
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: lordvader129 on October 07, 2005, 02:28:00 PM
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i think step3 is the most difficult there, how can be be 100% sure a purchased eeprom is virgin? and especially considering many people still dont even know about marriage theory they equate "virgin" with "unbanned" and of course even an unbanned nonvirgin eeprom is as good as banned without the married HD
and i think its quite possible thats what happened to you, Salblock
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: CloakedHunter on October 26, 2005, 11:15:00 PM
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Well, it looks as if my thread has served its purpose for nearly a year now. I've been unbanned ever since I started this thread in November 2004, and now, after all the updates, I'm happy to say that I'm still alive and kicking. Although, it's only been a few hours since I first logged in, so I'm not confirming anything yet. After Miggidy and I finalized the details of the Marriage Theory almost one year ago, I certainly hope we don't have to go through that again. It was a lot of work and a lot of bans to finally beat it. So, hopefully, they've finally given up on the original Xbox (knock on wood). Now I just need my 360...
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: CloakedHunter on January 02, 2006, 08:53:00 PM
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Out of curiosity, has anyone gotten banned on the 360 yet??
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Title: ATTENTION: Solution For Xbox Live Bannings
Post by: striker754 on January 04, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
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Hey guys
I am wondering if I can get unbanned. Can I install a switch to go between 2 hard drives to play on live?
I have a bigger hard drive, but i was banned for modded xbox.
I have my old stock hard drive. I am NOT sure if it has been on live or not, I do not believe it has. I think I had the bigger one the whole time that I played on live.
Can I install a switch to switch to the stock hard drive to play on live, update my eeprom and still be ok with my old gamertag? Or should I find a 2 month?
Weird thing is, my brother has a modded box and he is not banned, yet one of his friends also has a modded box and is banned.
Post by: gunit202 on January 15, 2005, 05:57:00 PM
b/c my frend had a soft mod xbox ver 1.4 n he cant get on live so can i just copy his harddrive key..?
Post by: mixar on January 18, 2005, 09:22:00 AM
Post by: Calpico on January 19, 2005, 01:11:00 AM
QUOTE(mixar @ Jan 18 2005, 05:46 PM)
i was banned around june/ july and now just got an eeprom to fix my xbox with. does anyone know if they were tracking hard drives at that time because i do not want to purchase a new hard drive.
yes if were banned you will need an new hdd
Post by: jonnyv on January 23, 2005, 10:56:00 AM
I have been running an xbox with a chip (switched off) on Live for ages, all the rest of the machine is as MS intended it. Ie original HDD etc.
One day (after a few beers) i switched the xbox on only to find I was banned (turns out I left the chip on - clever)
Luckily for me I had another EEPROM , which I installed and was back on Live , for about 12 hours when i got banned again. I'm presuming this is because I didnt change my HDD over to an unseen "virigin" model ?
Anyway thats my story.
Post by: aqmlswnk on January 23, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
QUOTE
1. Acquire and install a new unbanned HDD.
2. Format the HDD and install the retail MS Dashboard using Slayers 2.6.
3. Acquire and install a new unbanned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic.
4. Register a new Xbox Live account using a different GT. (CRITICAL!!!)
2. Format the HDD and install the retail MS Dashboard using Slayers 2.6.
3. Acquire and install a new unbanned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic.
4. Register a new Xbox Live account using a different GT. (CRITICAL!!!)
Step 1 is okay
Step 2 - I think - it would be better if you just downlaod your original Bios from Xbins and then Flash it.
Step 3 - Correct
Step 4 - Exactly - it's better.
What I did was - I got a new HDD and new unbanned Eeprom (from Zodiiak $10 each) then upgrade HDD - update EEprom - downlaod original biops from Xbins - create new Xbox Live account - and no problems at all.
Post by: SMH Command on January 26, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
I am planning to swap my xbox with a friend, his is also modded but has the stock HD and has never been on live, therefore his box is not even registered on live. Do you guys think it is safe to use my old GT on this box?
Another quick one: If my GT is flagged and I take it to another modded xbox which is currently not banned, will my flagged GT get my friends box banned?
Thanx
Post by: FlashKick on March 25, 2005, 02:19:00 AM
if you recently got banned, you'll have to follow the steps outlined in the earlier pages.
goodluck!
Post by: Xanium4332 on April 12, 2005, 02:00:00 PM
Any info would be appreciated,
Regards, Xanium4322
Post by: prplehz on April 12, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: feet14 on April 16, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
QUOTE(prplehz @ Apr 12 2005, 08:51 PM)
Just make your own with 4981 and xbtool.. Then you can make it just how you want it.
Well said, my friend. Who cares about a modchip between {enemies/friends} when you're buying shrink-wrapped legit copies. The ALX+ R2 is a damn fine modchip.
Post by: jaysrt4 on May 10, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
Post by: neverbefore on May 10, 2005, 05:50:00 PM
It is my understanding from the last two days of doing research and posting that you can use the same gamertag on your xbox as long as you get a new hard drive (must be a stock hard drive) and a new, virgin eeprom. The hard drive must be for an xbox (or at least the same size, contents, etc.) but the eeprom must be virgin to xbox live as well.
Also, I want to know whether or not I could still use xbox live if I still have my chip physically in my xbox but just in 'live safe mode'
Post by: Ghost_13 on May 12, 2005, 12:01:00 AM
Post by: lordvader129 on May 12, 2005, 12:30:00 AM
Post by: friedrice on May 12, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
Well, this is what i'm going to try anyway. Let me know otherwise please before I have to spend another $10 on a new eeprom
Post by: CloakedHunter on May 12, 2005, 09:40:00 PM
QUOTE(friedrice @ May 12 2005, 09:15 PM)
My understanding is that you DO NOT need to get a new hard drive. You only need a new EEPROM and a new GamerTag thing (basically set up a new live account). This is so since you are banned by your EEPROM not your HHD number.
Well, this is what i'm going to try anyway. Let me know otherwise please before I have to spend another $10 on a new eeprom
Well, this is what i'm going to try anyway. Let me know otherwise please before I have to spend another $10 on a new eeprom
Actually, you are incorrect. In fact, upon connecting to Xbox Live, your EEPROM and HDD are "married." This means, to become unbanned, you will need a new unbanned EEPROM, a new unbanned HDD, and a new GT (unless you intend to install a stock HDD). Reference the first post in this thread for the exact process to become unbanned. Good Luck!
Post by: BlackVenym on May 13, 2005, 02:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Gumba @ Nov 24 2004, 06:32 AM)
The exciting thing is if this is true then a solution to 'restore' an HD to an XBL virgin would be to low-level format it (which you need special software... like autoclave... to do)
so if i do a low level format.
get a new EEPROM.
and get a new GT.
what are the odds of it working.
(how hard is it to use autoclave?)
Post by: CloakedHunter on May 13, 2005, 03:45:00 PM
QUOTE(BlackVenym @ May 13 2005, 02:20 PM)
so if i do a low level format.
get a new EEPROM.
and get a new GT.
what are the odds of it working.
(how hard is it to use autoclave?)
get a new EEPROM.
and get a new GT.
what are the odds of it working.
(how hard is it to use autoclave?)
I have yet to see any success with low-level formatting. It is actually the serial number of your HDD that is banned, so a low-level format would not change anything. Simply, you should get a new HDD. To be certain, you may want to find and ask Gumba, as he was doing some tests with this. Good Luck!
Post by: lordvader129 on May 13, 2005, 04:15:00 PM
Post by: BlackVenym on May 13, 2005, 04:27:00 PM
wil that matter
Post by: lordvader129 on May 13, 2005, 04:37:00 PM
QUOTE(BlackVenym @ May 13 2005, 04:26 PM)
what about having Avalaunch on C and emu on E
wil that matter
wil that matter
doesnt matter
Post by: jaysrt4 on May 16, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: lordvader129 on May 16, 2005, 03:53:00 PM
QUOTE(jaysrt4 @ May 16 2005, 03:08 PM)
So now heres something I noticed. Before I was banned my IP for the xbox was 192.168.0.102 After I was banned it automatically changed itself to 192.168.0.100 Now I think when you get banned that xbox does something to our eeprom to make it change the ip address. After I installed a new hard drive the ip address was still .100 but after the new eeprom was installed I got .102 back as the ip address and I didnt change anything else. Now I was wondering if theres some way to look at what is inside the eeprom to see if they "Tag" that eeprom or change it to make the ip change. Has anyone looked into this yet?
the new eeprom contains a new MAC address for the network card, on the network it appears to be an entirely different device so your router assigned it a new IP address
Post by: neverbefore on May 21, 2005, 09:41:00 PM
Post by: Jack The Lad on May 28, 2005, 04:27:00 PM
I know you say you cannot use the same one but what about getting a new one with a similar GT, for example if you had J1mB0B that was flagged then got a new one called Jimbob 69 or Jimbob Overlord ? would that be o.k or would it get flagged automaticly because it is similar ?
Post by: manobano on May 28, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Jack The Lad @ May 29 2005, 12:31 AM)
About flagged gamertags.
I know you say you cannot use the same one but what about getting a new one with a similar GT, for example if you had J1mB0B that was flagged then got a new one called Jimbob 69 or Jimbob Overlord ? would that be o.k or would it get flagged automaticly because it is similar ?
I know you say you cannot use the same one but what about getting a new one with a similar GT, for example if you had J1mB0B that was flagged then got a new one called Jimbob 69 or Jimbob Overlord ? would that be o.k or would it get flagged automaticly because it is similar ?
that is one of the stupidest questions i have ever heard. why wud they bana 'similiar' gt??? that doesnt make any sense....
Post by: Jack The Lad on May 28, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
Post by: manobano on May 28, 2005, 05:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Jack The Lad @ May 29 2005, 12:58 AM)
i said flagged not ban & you never know with these gits.
1st of all...what are gits??? and it wudnt matter either way, why wud they flag a gamertag just cuz its similar to another alrdy flagged gt??? so if my gamertag is poophead and im flagged, and then someone makes poophead23 they get flagged??? thats stupid why would they do that....????
This post has been edited by manobano: May 29 2005, 12:07 AM
Post by: Chux on May 29, 2005, 08:48:00 AM
Post by: Chux on May 29, 2005, 08:50:00 AM
Post by: lordvader129 on May 29, 2005, 10:27:00 AM
Post by: Chux on May 29, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
Post by: dude696zan on June 01, 2005, 07:45:00 AM
Post by: vampirexxi on June 01, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
Post by: lordvader129 on June 01, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
QUOTE(vampirexxi @ Jun 1 2005, 01:31 PM)
a dumb question - how do you change your gamertag? or don't you? you just set up a new account? if that's the case, why wouldn't m$ register your name/address/cc#, etc w the new tag and banned info?
you have to set up a new account
MS doesnt flag addresses or CC numbers (why i dont know, maybe legally they cant blacklist an address like that)
personally i always thought they banned from Live, but made it relatively easy to get back on so we keep paying our subscriptions, lol
This post has been edited by lordvader129: Jun 1 2005, 06:40 PM
Post by: feet14 on June 02, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Jun 1 2005, 06:43 PM)
personally i always thought they banned from Live, but made it relatively easy to get back on so we keep paying our subscriptions, lol
lol, sounds right B)
Post by: malevolent000 on June 03, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
Post by: Chux on June 03, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
Post by: denvercg on June 28, 2005, 10:44:00 AM
I have moded my XBOX with the Executer 3 CE, installed a new 200 gigs HD. Everything worked great. I had to restore my account with Xbox Live which work for a couples of day. I did not format nor add any files to my new HD prior to restoring my account.
Let me recap:
1) Xbox 1.1
2) XBL account setup prior to modding
3) Modded Xbox
3) Installed new 200 gigs HD
4) Installed Hacked BIOS
5) I did not load any new Dashboard.
6) Restore my XBL account.
7) Played games for a couple of days
8) Got a message Stating that I had changed my hardware and should send my xbox for repair.
9) Re-intalled original HD
10) New message "Network Error Cannot connect to XBL" (this is not the exact term but you get the picture) This probably tells me that I am banned?
Is this the way for MS to tell you that you are banned? Can someone tell me if this is correct?
I tested my network and it working fine.
Ok I just bought a very unexpensive Xbox.
Now here is my question.
Can I restore my account with my banned name tag on my new xbox?
As for my modded banned xbox:
Where can I buy a new eeprom?
Do not tell me to take it from the xbox that I just bought, because I would like to test my modded xbox with out going live. I have not been able to load the Evolution X dashboard yet. This is an other problem that I will have to resolve, some time in the futur.
Can someone help me with these three questions.
Sorry about the long post.
Thank very much.
This post has been edited by denvercg: Jun 28 2005, 05:51 PM
Post by: clouzot on June 28, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
QUOTE(denvercg @ Jun 28 2005, 06:48 PM)
Hello,
I have moded my XBOX with the Executer 3 CE, installed a new 200 gigs HD. Everything worked great. I had to restore my account with Xbox Live which work for a couples of day. I did not format nor add any files to my new HD prior to restoring my account.
Let me recap:
1) Xbox 1.1
2) XBL account setup prior to modding
3) Modded Xbox
3) Installed new 200 gigs HD
4) Installed Hacked BIOS
5) I did not load any new Dashboard.
6) Restore my XBL account.
7) Played games for a couple of days
8) Got a message Stating that I had changed my hardware and should send my xbox for repair.
9) Re-intalled original HD
10) New message "Network Error Cannot connect to XBL" (this is not the exact term but you get the picture) This probably tells me that I am banned?
Is this the way for MS to tell you that you are banned? Can someone tell me if this is correct?
I tested my network and it working fine.
Ok I just bought a very unexpensive Xbox.
Now here is my question.
Can I restore my account with my banned name tag on my new xbox?
As for my modded banned xbox:
Where can I buy a new eeprom?
Do not tell me to take it from the xbox that I just bought, because I would like to test my modded xbox with out going live. I have not been able to load the Evolution X dashboard yet. This is an other problem that I will have to resolve, some time in the futur.
Can someone help me with these three questions.
Sorry about the long post.
Thank very much.
I have moded my XBOX with the Executer 3 CE, installed a new 200 gigs HD. Everything worked great. I had to restore my account with Xbox Live which work for a couples of day. I did not format nor add any files to my new HD prior to restoring my account.
Let me recap:
1) Xbox 1.1
2) XBL account setup prior to modding
3) Modded Xbox
3) Installed new 200 gigs HD
4) Installed Hacked BIOS
5) I did not load any new Dashboard.
6) Restore my XBL account.
7) Played games for a couple of days
8) Got a message Stating that I had changed my hardware and should send my xbox for repair.
9) Re-intalled original HD
10) New message "Network Error Cannot connect to XBL" (this is not the exact term but you get the picture) This probably tells me that I am banned?
Is this the way for MS to tell you that you are banned? Can someone tell me if this is correct?
I tested my network and it working fine.
Ok I just bought a very unexpensive Xbox.
Now here is my question.
Can I restore my account with my banned name tag on my new xbox?
As for my modded banned xbox:
Where can I buy a new eeprom?
Do not tell me to take it from the xbox that I just bought, because I would like to test my modded xbox with out going live. I have not been able to load the Evolution X dashboard yet. This is an other problem that I will have to resolve, some time in the futur.
Can someone help me with these three questions.
Sorry about the long post.
Thank very much.
Here is your mistake !!!!
2) XBL account setup prior to modding
You are banned.
You must mod your box before you ever connect it to xbl !
As soon as you set-up your account, XBL record EEPROM and HDD info.
Post by: denvercg on June 28, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
QUOTE(clouzot @ Jun 28 2005, 12:12 PM)
Here is your mistake !!!!
2) XBL account setup prior to modding
You are banned.
You must mod your box before you ever connect it to xbl !
As soon as you set-up your account, XBL record EEPROM and HDD info.
2) XBL account setup prior to modding
You are banned.
You must mod your box before you ever connect it to xbl !
As soon as you set-up your account, XBL record EEPROM and HDD info.
DR. Clouzot,
Thank you, for you help. My even bigger mistake is that before doing the mod I should of research more on the subject. My bad "Live and Learn".
Now about my two other questions, any input? Or should I find where to get that eeprom by myself? Is it tabou to ask this question?
So to try to answer my other question, Before I set a new account with MS Live with the Xbox I have just bought, I should do the modding install a new HD (not the one I was tagged with in first place) and only then go with registering a new account with XBL. Is this correct?
This brings a new question.
I think I have read somewhere in this thread, that XLB could find the capacity of my new HD and its serial number. Is this correct?
I think if this is true then I would be tagged again.
Please let me know.
Thank you.
Post by: Spasm on June 29, 2005, 11:47:00 PM
I've installed Avalaunch and all my apps to the F: drive only. The problem is, Avalaunch, MameOX and other apps keep writing files to the E:\TDATA folder. Is this something that's going to get the box banned again, or do I not need to worry about it. If it is something to worry about, how do I get those apps to quit shitting on my stealth install?
I've searched the docs and the forums for Avalaunch and MameOX with no luck.
Sorry if this has already been covered.
Post by: wolvorine4424 on August 03, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
Running an X-Bit chip, 350GB HDD as MOD.
I need a new/neverused eeprom... I already have a new 12gb hd...
E-mail me if you have one i can get from you...
If it works out good, i will get 2+ more eeproms just as a safety, if i get banned again...
I got banned because i let my friend borrow my box and he went online with it...
And after i checked it, He coppied my account from the live HDD to the modded HDD to play some game i loaded from the internet... His excuse was, I wanted to play it so bad.... SMACK, DAMN KIDS...
He did this after i gave him a lecture for about an hour, what he can and cannot do on each HDD and how to power the box to Orriginal/Live and MOD chip Bois...
Roman
[email protected]
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Post by: Jrgong420 on September 25, 2005, 09:58:00 PM
Post by: lordvader129 on September 25, 2005, 10:09:00 PM
or
a new HD of any size and a new gamertag
with both options youll need a neww virgin eeprom
Post by: Jrgong420 on October 03, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Sep 26 2005, 12:13 AM)
you need a stock HD that has not been abnned (its ok if its been online)
or
a new HD of any size and a new gamertag
with both options youll need a neww virgin eeprom
or
a new HD of any size and a new gamertag
with both options youll need a neww virgin eeprom
Yeah thanks lordvader I should have checked your post on the marriage theory earlier. Well thats what I get for not researching my shit. Appreciate the help now I just gotta scrounge up a virgen eeprom and I'm set.
Post by: bigboss745 on October 04, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
p.s i was banned b4
Post by: bigboss745 on October 04, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
Post by: Salblock on October 07, 2005, 01:40:00 PM
Post by: lordvader129 on October 07, 2005, 02:28:00 PM
QUOTE
1. Acquire and install a new unbanned HDD.
2. Format the HDD and install the retail MS Dashboard using Slayers 2.6.
3. Acquire and install a new unbanned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic.
4. Register a new Xbox Live account using a different GT. (CRITICAL!!!)
2. Format the HDD and install the retail MS Dashboard using Slayers 2.6.
3. Acquire and install a new unbanned/unused EEPROM using ConfigMagic.
4. Register a new Xbox Live account using a different GT. (CRITICAL!!!)
i think step3 is the most difficult there, how can be be 100% sure a purchased eeprom is virgin? and especially considering many people still dont even know about marriage theory they equate "virgin" with "unbanned" and of course even an unbanned nonvirgin eeprom is as good as banned without the married HD
and i think its quite possible thats what happened to you, Salblock
Post by: CloakedHunter on October 26, 2005, 11:15:00 PM
Post by: CloakedHunter on January 02, 2006, 08:53:00 PM
Post by: striker754 on January 04, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
I am wondering if I can get unbanned. Can I install a switch to go between 2 hard drives to play on live?
I have a bigger hard drive, but i was banned for modded xbox.
I have my old stock hard drive. I am NOT sure if it has been on live or not, I do not believe it has. I think I had the bigger one the whole time that I played on live.
Can I install a switch to switch to the stock hard drive to play on live, update my eeprom and still be ok with my old gamertag? Or should I find a 2 month?
Weird thing is, my brother has a modded box and he is not banned, yet one of his friends also has a modded box and is banned.