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Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 12, 2003, 07:25:00 PM
First some info...
Xbox 1.0
Thomson DVD
Western Digi HD
Xecuter 2.0
evox D6 grey logo BIOS
latest evox dash

Ok.. I installed live today.  I made sure to backup my c and e drive and also to turn off my chip before inserting the cd.  I installed it and everything went fine, played a couple games and all.  I turn off the system.. turn the chip back on and evox doesn't load.  The grey logo doesn't load either.  So I try a different combination of switches and nothing works.  So I make an evox boot cd (cd-rw) and I am unable to get it to load (which I was able when first installing the cd last year).  So it must have wiped my chip clean..  but how?!
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: shanafan on November 12, 2003, 08:26:00 PM
No, Live does not delete a BIOS on a modchip..

Check the alignment of your modchip.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 12, 2003, 08:40:00 PM
it's soldered on.  It's xecutor 2 pro.

You tell me then what happened to it.  I was playing a backup and then I do the backup and all and right after I install live (never moving the box itself) the chip is erased.  I'm not a n00b, I know what I'm saying doesn't sound right or possible but it's what happened... I NEVER once had a problem with the chip before now and I've had it since it's release.  If xbox live isn't the reason for it then this is one hell of a big coincidense.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: shanafan on November 12, 2003, 08:59:00 PM
QUOTE (DuDeR MaN @ Nov 13 2003, 12:40 AM)
it's soldered on.  It's xecutor 2 pro.

You tell me then what happened to it.  I was playing a backup and then I do the backup and all and right after I install live (never moving the box itself) the chip is erased.  I'm not a n00b, I know what I'm saying doesn't sound right or possible but it's what happened... I NEVER once had a problem with the chip before now and I've had it since it's release.  If xbox live isn't the reason for it then this is one hell of a big coincidense.

Then it is a big concidence. Are you able to re-flash it?
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 13, 2003, 06:03:00 AM
well neither my comp or my laptop can't detect it just like it couldn't when I first got the chip so I'm going over a buddie's house today to reflash it.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: Xeero on November 13, 2003, 06:24:00 AM
Don't waste your time trying to reflash your mod; Live did NOT flash the chip with MS BIOS.

I'd say your D0 is no longer grounded.  Check that.

EDIT:  When you say "neither my comp or my laptop can't detect it just like it couldn't when I first got the chip", are you implying that the state of the flashROM (hacked BIOS, MS BIOS, or blank) has anything to do with whether or not the computer can detect it??  If so, this is untrue.  The contents of the flashROM have nothing to do with it.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2003, 08:17:00 AM
I was told by other source that the a high amount of static got into your modchip and deleted the BIOS.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: Xeero on November 13, 2003, 08:19:00 AM
QUOTE (shanafan @ Nov 13 2003, 12:17 PM)
I was told by other source that the a high amount of static got into your modchip and deleted the BIOS.

That would cause the Xbox to frag.  The only way it would appear to be unmodded is if the static miraculously wrote the MS BIOS to the chip.  laugh.gif

Again, I vote for him to check the D0.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2003, 08:21:00 AM
QUOTE (Xeero @ Nov 13 2003, 12:19 PM)
QUOTE (shanafan @ Nov 13 2003, 12:17 PM)
I was told by other source that the a high amount of static got into your modchip and deleted the BIOS.

That would cause the Xbox to frag.  The only way it would appear to be unmodded is if the static miraculously wrote the MS BIOS to the chip.  laugh.gif

Again, I vote for him to check the D0.

As I said, told by other source  wink.gif

Someone who likes Hank  unsure.gif
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 13, 2003, 11:26:00 AM
the D0 is on there fine... this makes no sense to me.  How could it have happened?  What I meant about flashing it was this... when I first got the chip my computer couldn't detect it with the parrallel cable so I had to get someone else to flash it on their computer.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: Xeero on November 13, 2003, 11:38:00 AM
If the mod chip isn't even active, what good is flashing it going to do?
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: mrRobinson on November 13, 2003, 12:00:00 PM
yea it doesn't make sense that it was "wiped".  something happened to it but it wasn't caused by msft.  I would resolder... maybe it just went bad, its unlikely but possible.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 13, 2003, 02:20:00 PM
I don't know guys... I was just talking to one of my contacts and he said he's gotten about 5 other calls from people who had this problem with their chip right after installing live.  Maybe this is something new...


xeero- I meant I had to write the bios onto the chip
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: Intelligoth on November 13, 2003, 02:31:00 PM
I can't see how anything can write to your chip if you had the protection switch set to Enabled, which I'm assuming you did.  I'm with Xeero, check your d0.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 13, 2003, 03:12:00 PM
write protection was not on since I would flash it through evox sometimes

I checked the D0... it's fine
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: toasted69 on November 13, 2003, 03:25:00 PM
out of curiousty what was your evox default.xbe named was it evoxdash.xbe or xboxdash.xbe ?
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 13, 2003, 03:32:00 PM
evoxdash.xbe

like I said.. I'm not a n00b, I don't have an explanation for this and now i'm out of a chip for now.  I couldn't get it to write the bios today so I'm send my box to someone to see if they can get the chip working, they are more experienced witht he hardware than I am.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: Xeero on November 13, 2003, 03:36:00 PM
Try hard-grounding D0 using a single wire.  If the Xbox frags, then your chip might be damaged.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 14, 2003, 06:53:00 AM
I don't believe th chip was damaged but I'm more concerned with why this happened?  how the hell could this happen?  it doesn't make sense!
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: Xeero on November 14, 2003, 06:56:00 AM
Perhaps some heavy static discharge damaged the chip, preventing it from soft-grounding.  It certainly didn't overwrite the BIOS with the MS BIOS.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 14, 2003, 08:42:00 AM
but if that was true then wouldn't the box give an error when I turn the chip back on?  instead it just loaded the box as if there was no chip inside at all.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: moistness on November 14, 2003, 08:50:00 AM
whatever did it, it seems a good idea not to leave your mod flash protect switch off!

its not impossible for it to have been done by microtoss, but unlikley i would say!!

best be on the safe side methinks!
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 30, 2003, 07:04:00 PM
well I had to replace my chip.  It would not reflash.  The person who I buy from said he had 3 other people send him chips that were busted from the same problem.   Instead of throwing this aside saying it's "impossible" is childish... this may be a serious issue.  Though I guess it could be avoided with flash protection.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: shanafan on November 30, 2003, 07:06:00 PM
Duder man, thanks for the update. But I honestly think it is just a faulty modchip. As Xbox Live does not delete the BIOS on a modchip. Seems very impossible to do, since the modchip is not on when you use Live. And, even if it was on, still would be impossible.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: lordvader129 on November 30, 2003, 08:35:00 PM
not only does it seem impossible, it IS impossible, first off, Live cannot detect a disabled LPC modchip, and second, a disabled LPC chip cannot be flashed by any sort of software if the xbox is booted from the TSOP (chip disabled) same reason a TSOP cannot be flashed after booting from an LPC chip, doesnt matter if your write protect was enabled or not

just an odd coincidence, perhaps a bad batch of chips from the installer (not even xecuters are perfect, lol) and the 2.0 is a little on the old side (yes, i realize there are still alot of people running enigmas with no problem, im justs aying is all)
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: joerack on December 01, 2003, 04:54:00 AM
uhh.gif

I'm thinking the d0 point on the front got isolated in some way from the modchip d0 point , but if he said that it was soldered on...
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: HeLiuM on December 02, 2003, 09:51:00 AM
just out of curiousity.. he said he turned off his chip prior to installing live. my question is, did he even check the switch before calling the modchip a failure?
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: DuDeR MaN on December 02, 2003, 07:46:00 PM
it did not overwrite the BIOS.. it seemed to fry the chip altogether.  Whether it was live or not I don't know but I didn't have flash protection on and I know alot of people usually have that installed.  

Yes my chip was turned off during install.. yes I made sure it was on after ward when testing.. yes a reprogrammed it and it still isn't working meaning the chip is busted since I checked the points and everything is in tact.

Yes my theory sounds extreme but it could be possible.  All signs (on my end at least) point to it as the answer... I have no ther answer.
Title: Live Deleted My Modchip Bios
Post by: shanafan on December 02, 2003, 07:54:00 PM
Your modchip was faulty. Got it?

Live does not delete, or reflash, or whatever to modchips.