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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rahula on August 05, 2003, 05:28:00 PM
Hopefully not. As long as you turn off your chip and lock your Hdd.  Damn..this makes me nervous, after all ,some good Live games are coming out soon.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 05, 2003, 05:31:00 PM
We will know once it comes out.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rahula on August 05, 2003, 05:35:00 PM
yeah. shanafan, wanna take one for the group?   tongue.gif .
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: RayTwoOneThree on August 05, 2003, 09:30:00 PM
I really dont care about the update.I have 2 XBOX's 1 chipped the other isnt.I dont know what everyone is all worried about you can just unplug your cablea and there for your xbox wont be able to log on....
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 05, 2003, 11:06:00 PM
QUOTE (RayTwoOneThree @ Aug 6 2003, 01:30 AM)
I really dont care about the update.I have 2 XBOX's 1 chipped the other isnt.I dont know what everyone is all worried about you can just unplug your cablea and there for your xbox wont be able to log on....

But then you won't be able to play backups on XBConnect, etc. And, maybe plugging the cable in when the game is going, it will still connect to Live.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: stlmike on August 06, 2003, 01:34:00 AM
ohh shit sad.gif, looks like ill be hd swaping.  for awhile! i would except few days after its released. ppl getting banned from live! that probably would put the demand out for erpoms wink.gif


thinking.......
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: MeNaCe911 on August 06, 2003, 05:58:00 AM
wow they can really screw us over...oh well i guess we will all see...not even beta testers can avoid this
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 06, 2003, 07:40:00 AM
QUOTE (stlmike @ Aug 6 2003, 05:34 AM)
ohh shit sad.gif, looks like ill be hd swaping.  for awhile! i would except few days after its released. ppl getting banned from live! that probably would put the demand out for erpoms wink.gif


thinking.......

HD swapping won't work. It detects a modchip, not a HD.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Krill123 on August 06, 2003, 07:50:00 AM
The way I see it.. MS should not let Xbox Live check for mod chips.. that way, they'd make more money... I mean.. They are loosing potential customers.. Mod chip or not. Why ban users from playing on a service which they have to pay for.

Not smart business..
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 06, 2003, 07:53:00 AM
QUOTE (Achtung @ Aug 6 2003, 11:46 AM)
QUOTE (shanafan @ Aug 6 2003, 04:40 PM)
QUOTE (stlmike @ Aug 6 2003, 05:34 AM)
ohh shit sad.gif, looks like ill be hd swaping.  for awhile! i would except few days after its released. ppl getting banned from live! that probably would put the demand out for erpoms wink.gif


thinking.......

HD swapping won't work. It detects a modchip, not a HD.

How wont it, Turn your mod chip off and swap to your original Xbox HD to play live games. problem solved.

Just have the MS dash be xboxdash.xbe on the upgraded HD, and have the HD always locked. There isn't a point yet for HD swapping for Xbox Live. Live doesn't search your HD at all yet.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 06, 2003, 07:54:00 AM
QUOTE (Krill123 @ Aug 6 2003, 11:50 AM)
The way I see it.. MS should not let Xbox Live check for mod chips.. that way, they'd make more money... I mean.. They are loosing potential customers.. Mod chip or not. Why ban users from playing on a service which they have to pay for.

Not smart business..

Yeah and let people cheat on Xbox's crown jewel right now? Hell, I won't be playing then.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Xeero on August 06, 2003, 08:00:00 AM
QUOTE (Krill123 @ Aug 6 2003, 11:50 AM)
The way I see it.. MS should not let Xbox Live check for mod chips.. that way, they'd make more money... I mean.. They are loosing potential customers.. Mod chip or not. Why ban users from playing on a service which they have to pay for.

Not smart business..

I think they're more concerned about protecting developers and keeping them around for Xbox2 than they are about pissing off modded XBL users, which may account for like 0.2% of the entire Xbox customerbase.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rahula on August 06, 2003, 08:09:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: sp8rky on August 06, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rahula on August 06, 2003, 09:39:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: ImpulseAdidas on August 06, 2003, 10:40:00 AM
If we turn off the modchip MS willnot be able to scan our F drive. The F drive was created from the modified bios from the modchip. When the modchip is turned off, the F drive is not evident anymore. Maybe we can put everything on the F if everything comes to worse. I pretty sure about the F drive though.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 06, 2003, 11:30:00 AM
QUOTE (Ice Rich @ Aug 6 2003, 01:04 PM)
Ive got a modded xbox but original hard drive, as long as I turn the chip off ill be ok wont I?

Thanks

Rich

Right now, yes. Read the pinned topic please.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: AkumAPRIME on August 06, 2003, 01:23:00 PM
I predict......... On august 25th, Xbox-scene forums explode in waves of questions about live 2.0. Hopefully no major damage'll be done. I just found out I may not have been banned afterall. Finding out I can go live, only to find out that I may then not be able to is depressing!
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: NaughtyNu on August 06, 2003, 03:37:00 PM
If it peeks at the Friends list whenever you turn on the Xbox then expect it to check the perimeter for mods.

What I have been doing for awhile now with my old mod and on/off switch is I've left the default dashboard the default one and boot EvoX off a CDRW disc.  Any other game I have are on DVDRs and I'd boot them up normally.  Unless I'm forgetting something this method sounds fine for a new age of Live dashboards as long as you pay attention closer then logging onto Live with the switch still left on....

...unless it does a connection to Live if it has a hard time reading a disc.  I get that the odd time (The disc cannot be read check if it's dirty etc)  That would screw this plan over
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: brienj on August 06, 2003, 04:19:00 PM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: dante2010 on August 06, 2003, 07:17:00 PM
"And finally (although not technically part of the August 25th Launch) - new "Live Aware" games will be hitting the shelves this holiday season. These will auto-magically log on to the Live service while you are playing so that even though you're not playing on Live currently - you can still see what's happening on live and receive game invites that will pop up in the game you're playing"

From http://www.consolegold.com/
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rahula on August 06, 2003, 08:09:00 PM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Glex25 on August 06, 2003, 08:43:00 PM
well there is always a simpler solution as far as those that are using router as iam you can just put your xbox on a static ip and then go into your router config page and disable that ip from reacing the net even though it will still be able to go thru your lan like if u still want to use xbmp. I have a linksys router n in there is a tab that says filters where u can specify what range of ip you dont want to get on the internet meaning outside your lan. So no need to disconnect lan cable and what not
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: bebrewer1 on August 07, 2003, 08:01:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Nathan561 on August 07, 2003, 08:28:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: cainedna on August 07, 2003, 08:42:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Xeero on August 07, 2003, 08:51:00 AM
Can anyone donate an already-banned EEPROM to me so I can F around with the new dash when it hits???
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Xeero on August 07, 2003, 09:15:00 AM
QUOTE (happypaul @ Aug 7 2003, 01:13 PM)
QUOTE (RayTwoOneThree @ Aug 6 2003, 06:30 AM)
I really dont care about the update.I have 2 XBOX's 1 chipped the other isnt.I dont know what everyone is all worried about you can just unplug your cablea and there for your xbox wont be able to log on....

2 xboxs are the best! one for live. one for backups... no need to worry about getting banned.

Well, it's certainly no economical solution.  The people that cannot afford multiple Xboxes are just being prudent about this upcoming dash, and justifiably so.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 07, 2003, 10:39:00 AM
QUOTE (Nathan561 @ Aug 7 2003, 12:28 PM)
There is a simple solution to the Live Aware games, just keep the xbox unplugged from the internet!
To be honest, the only real problem is if the new dashboard or games have some kind of new inbuilt mod-chip detection that flags something even if you have the cable unplugged.

If however the updates and new detection techniques only occur while the xbox is connected to live.. just keep the damn thing unplugged fullstop.

My xbox is never plugged into the net when my modchip is turned on, and when i want to use live i just flick the switch and plug the cable in.

That is fine for now, hopefully that will be enough for this.. but you never know  blink.gif

So then you are screwed when you want to play games on XBConnect for example.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 07, 2003, 10:40:00 AM
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 7 2003, 12:51 PM)
Can anyone donate an already-banned EEPROM to me so I can F around with the new dash when it hits???

BANNED EEPROM
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: BiCX on August 07, 2003, 11:38:00 AM
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I hope it is in 480p so we with our XBOXs' hooked up to a Monitor can finally see the Dashboard without a Mod-Chip and patched Dashboard
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: echto on August 07, 2003, 02:37:00 PM
I think its a privacy issue.  I wouldn't be surprised if some watch dog group is already watching this with a BIG eye.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: vintage_guitar on August 07, 2003, 08:36:00 PM
or you can change your XBL network settings too where it won't work..everything else will but it won't connect too live
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: brienj on August 07, 2003, 09:38:00 PM
For all the paranoid freaks, the easiest way to do it is to delete your Xbox Live account in the memory manager of the dashboard, after making a backup to a memory card, then when you want, just re-install Live to the memory manager with your memory card.  Without a Live account on the Xbox, you can't connect to Live.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: MrSelfDestruct on August 08, 2003, 12:14:00 PM
QUOTE (brienj @ Aug 8 2003, 06:38 AM)
For all the paranoid freaks, the easiest way to do it is to delete your Xbox Live account in the memory manager of the dashboard, after making a backup to a memory card, then when you want, just re-install Live to the memory manager with your memory card.  Without a Live account on the Xbox, you can't connect to Live.

Well im a newbie around these forums, and im not SUPER into the modding scene, but i do have my box modded, and I have been giving this new dash alot of thought. Brienj here, has a very good point, and i honestly think that it would work. If you deleted your gamertag account off of your HDD, and just stored it on a memory card....when you turn your xbox on, it wont connect to LIVE, no matter how the new dashboard is setup. MS wouldnt connect you to their service unless you have their gamertag. Then whenever you want to play, you just put your memory card in, and login to the game with it.

The only problem that I really see being an issue, is will evox (or whatever OS you got) still even be there when they DO update the dashboard. I mean....for us who use the "no-modchip" glitch in the dashboard to access evox (or whatever), we are completely dependant on the audio or font glitch in order to access that diffrent OS. Well.....if they do infact fix those glitches in the dashboard, will the custom OS (evox, avalaunch...etc) still be there? who knows..... unsure.gif

Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rahula on August 08, 2003, 04:19:00 PM
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" ok guys..lets just put mod scanning,bios checking, instant banning and frying Hdd altogether"(M$ Xbox team)....lol  laugh.gif
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rocketman121 on August 08, 2003, 04:24:00 PM
Schedule for New Xbox Live Features
Xbox Live will be down for planned maintenance at 12:01 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time on August 14 for an estimated eight hours. This is part one of a four-part rollout of new Xbox Live features. Here's exactly what's coming with each part of the upgrade:

August 14
At 12:01 a.m. PDT, we will perform routine server maintenance to keep the service running as smoothly as possible. Despite a lot of speculation in online forums and in the press, the upgrade will begin and end on August 14.

August 25
You'll see a fresh new Web site at www.xbox.com/live. This will include an option for Xbox Live subscribers to use their Gamertags to log on to a special area of the site called My Live. Here subscribers will be able to see their Friends List and the games their friends are playing on Xbox Live.

A few days later, you'll see the birth of XSN Sports, a Web site powered by the same technology as the new Xbox Live Web site. XSN Sports will enable Xbox Live subscribers to create leagues and tournaments for NFL Fever 2004 and other XSN Sports titles coming later this year.

Mid-September
We'll release an update of the Xbox Dashboard. The new Xbox Live Dashboard, called Xbox Live Now, will give subscribers the ability to see their Friends List, see what their friends are doing, and send game invites. It will also display their stats and provide a common place to voice chat with friends before and after Xbox Live games.

A lot of great things are coming to gamers in the next few weeks on Xbox Live. Check it out! And get ready for all the hot games coming this holiday!

Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: BraveBen on August 08, 2003, 09:42:00 PM
Man I'm nervous. I'm not gonna even go to my original xbox dash until any of you guys find a solution or some info, lol
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: happypaul on August 08, 2003, 09:53:00 PM
QUOTE (rocketman121 @ Aug 9 2003, 01:24 AM)
Schedule for New Xbox Live Features
Xbox Live will be down for planned maintenance at 12:01 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time on August 14 for an estimated eight hours. This is part one of a four-part rollout of new Xbox Live features. Here's exactly what's coming with each part of the upgrade:

August 14
At 12:01 a.m. PDT, we will perform routine server maintenance to keep the service running as smoothly as possible. Despite a lot of speculation in online forums and in the press, the upgrade will begin and end on August 14.

August 25
You'll see a fresh new Web site at www.xbox.com/live. This will include an option for Xbox Live subscribers to use their Gamertags to log on to a special area of the site called My Live. Here subscribers will be able to see their Friends List and the games their friends are playing on Xbox Live.

A few days later, you'll see the birth of XSN Sports, a Web site powered by the same technology as the new Xbox Live Web site. XSN Sports will enable Xbox Live subscribers to create leagues and tournaments for NFL Fever 2004 and other XSN Sports titles coming later this year.

Mid-September
We'll release an update of the Xbox Dashboard. The new Xbox Live Dashboard, called Xbox Live Now, will give subscribers the ability to see their Friends List, see what their friends are doing, and send game invites. It will also display their stats and provide a common place to voice chat with friends before and after Xbox Live games.

A lot of great things are coming to gamers in the next few weeks on Xbox Live. Check it out! And get ready for all the hot games coming this holiday!

this is written so nicely, it's like he works for m$. hahahaha unsure.gif
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: ChrisF on August 09, 2003, 09:40:00 AM
Although I doubt the MS is in love with the modding community I would hope that they understand that no one here supports or is currently trying to hack live or play copies on live.  We aren't messing with their business model in anyway (other than some people pirating games to their HDD - non Live of course).  Still this is a small % of total xbox users.  I wouldn't think MS is deliberately attacking chip users with this release (hopefully).  The first time they just had to make sure no one was running unsigned code on Live and they didn't want to give people a bunch of chances to experiment.  We'll see what happens but I doubt they are going to go overboard.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rocketman121 on August 09, 2003, 09:16:00 PM
QUOTE (happypaul @ Aug 9 2003, 12:53 AM)
QUOTE (rocketman121 @ Aug 9 2003, 01:24 AM)
Schedule for New Xbox Live Features
Xbox Live will be down for planned maintenance at 12:01 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time on August 14 for an estimated eight hours. This is part one of a four-part rollout of new Xbox Live features. Here's exactly what's coming with each part of the upgrade:

August 14
At 12:01 a.m. PDT, we will perform routine server maintenance to keep the service running as smoothly as possible. Despite a lot of speculation in online forums and in the press, the upgrade will begin and end on August 14.

August 25
You'll see a fresh new Web site at www.xbox.com/live. This will include an option for Xbox Live subscribers to use their Gamertags to log on to a special area of the site called My Live. Here subscribers will be able to see their Friends List and the games their friends are playing on Xbox Live.

A few days later, you'll see the birth of XSN Sports, a Web site powered by the same technology as the new Xbox Live Web site. XSN Sports will enable Xbox Live subscribers to create leagues and tournaments for NFL Fever 2004 and other XSN Sports titles coming later this year.

Mid-September
We'll release an update of the Xbox Dashboard. The new Xbox Live Dashboard, called Xbox Live Now, will give subscribers the ability to see their Friends List, see what their friends are doing, and send game invites. It will also display their stats and provide a common place to voice chat with friends before and after Xbox Live games.

A lot of great things are coming to gamers in the next few weeks on Xbox Live. Check it out! And get ready for all the hot games coming this holiday!

this is written so nicely, it's like he works for m$. hahahaha unsure.gif

LoL, Its on the Xbox.com website. Just a copy and paste job.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Fofer on August 24, 2003, 08:03:00 AM
The way my LinkSys router's filter works is, I can filter just a specific port range.  Do XBConnect and Xbox Live use the same ports?  If not, perhaps I could block JUST the access to Xbox Live?  

As has been discussed though, simply unplugging the cable (or even disabling 'net access via a router) might not necessarily do the trick, if the new XBox Live scans your hard drive, or if new games scan for a mod chip, and cache it later for when you next connect to Xbox Live.

It will be interesting to see how the next few weeks play out, that's for sure.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Fofer on August 24, 2003, 08:36:00 AM
QUOTE (Evergreen98 @ Aug 7 2003, 09:13 PM)
A game like Midtown Madness 3 or MotoGP2 is approximately the preview of a Live Aware game. You can be signed in while playing campaign/single player missions, and then Live alerts will pop up if you receive an invite. I doubt a Live connection will be required for these games: not everybody has an available broadband connection whereever they bring their Xbox. Therefore there always must be an option to cancel out of the connection -- although these games will attempt to find a connection with all their might.

Whoah - I'm curious about what you've said here.  I play my copy of Midtown Madness 3 off my HD all the time, modchip enabled, net cable plugged in.  I just avoid connecting to any "Xbox Live" features, and have yet to be banned in any way.

Are you saying that Xbox Live will still try to connect behind my back, without me specifically requesting it?  If so, why hasn't this happened yet to me?

I've imagined for a while now that all future games will have some kind of Live content, or be "Live enabled" -- these seem to be the games that folks are buying (even mod chippers) and the one area where MS has some sort of control.  I wouldn't be surprised if M$ required some sort of "Live" content from all of theirt developers.  But I didn't think it happened yet, so soon, with MM3.  

(My hope was that the new Xbox Live 2.0 features wouldn't scan or cache or flag anything, but modchippers still wouldn't be allowed on Live -- and that any and all future games would have some sort of compelling Live content that would encourage them to actually buy the game.  I'd be willing to live with that arrangement, I think.)

Any more info on MM3's "Live" capabilities would be appreciated.  I'd just as soon delete it from my HD.


Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 24, 2003, 12:21:00 PM
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Whoah - I'm curious about what you've said here. I play my copy of Midtown Madness 3 off my HD all the time, modchip enabled, net cable plugged in. I just avoid connecting to any "Xbox Live" features, and have yet to be banned in any way.

Same here. I know that MM3 does not connect to Live in single player mode. Why would it anyways?

As for MotoGP 2, when the game starts, if asks for to choose a profile. Of course, the only profile that you see first is your gamertag for Live. If you select it, it automatically connects to Live. BUT, you can create an offline profile for MotoGP 2.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Evergreen98 on August 25, 2003, 09:10:00 AM
QUOTE (Fofer @ Aug 24 2003, 05:36 PM)
Any more info on MM3's "Live" capabilities would be appreciated.  I'd just as soon delete it from my HD.

From what I know (I have a retail version of MM3, that I play off the original retail DVD), there's a "Sign In" option from the main menu. If you don't select it, the game doesn't connect to Live. If you do (and select the account, and enter the password) Live will monitor your Friends list and do evil things in the background.

There should be no problem running it off your hard drive though (provided you don't use the Live option.)
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: nza on August 25, 2003, 10:24:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: HaloAssault on August 25, 2003, 10:44:00 AM
The only real way to ruin modchips and live would be to release a patch every 1 or 2 weeks so by the time someone figures a work around there will be a new patch.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Fofer on August 26, 2003, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE (Hitcher @ Aug 25 2003, 03:02 PM)
When I have my chip switched on the IP address is manually set to 192.168.000.001 for file transferring, so there's no way the Xbox can connect to Live with it on.

And why is that?  My laptop gets the same address (192.168.0.1) and I can get on the internet just fine.  There's nothing inherently *wrong* with that IP address, it's an internal IP that gets TCP/IP traffic via NAT (Network Address Translation.)

You would have to specifically prevent 192.168.0.1 from having WAN access if you wanted to be safe from connecting to Xbox Live.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xxxandyxxx on August 28, 2003, 05:52:00 AM
I have to agree with ChrisF. Maybe at the end of September I will have to edit this post tho !!!!!

I don't think m$ will be scanning the HDD for evox, however I do think they will patch up the font exploit. Their main concern if that no XBLers are on live with backups or modified code.

Hell how many on this forum just say they will buy another xbox for live and keep the moded on for Emu/XBMP/Backups ! I will for sure - at £120 on amazon its still cheaper than my PS1 was when that came out (£300 by the way). And remember M$ loses money on each one the sell.

I don't think M$ are all that fussed about what we do offline with homebrew. I would even go as far as to say they are taking a close note on some of it for xbox2 !!

I think that they want their XBL baby to be clean from hackers and cheats just the same as most of us. Don't get me wrong, if a HDD scan did that, then I am sure they would do it. However a HDD scan would not tell them you are running modded code on live, just that you have a modchip that is currently disabled.

Well there is my two pence worth. Font exploit patch, but no HDD scan. I guess we will just have to wait and see ..........
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: phunki on August 28, 2003, 08:23:00 AM
i am wondering if MS will start banning modchip users even if they have their modchip turned off..   it would be possible for them to tell if u have put in a skins directory or if u have evoxdash.xbe or something in C drive wouldnt it??  who is to say that they wont ban our accounts even if the modchip is turned off...  is there something we can do?    any insight????
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Xeero on August 28, 2003, 08:29:00 AM
There are a variety of things they can check:
-other files on C partition
-data recorded beyond the end of the Z partition
-make/model of HDD
-voltage drawn from LPC points

All are residual effects that are visible even with the modchip disabeld (D0 ungrounded).  There is no indication of what MS will implement until it's actually upon us, so let's just wait.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: phunki on August 28, 2003, 08:32:00 AM
Well i have been wanting to get live for some time now.  and with all of this new stuff coming out i really want to get it.  especially for when counterstrike comes out..   i just dont like the fact that i would be putting down all of the money and knowing that i could get zapped in a second..   we all could..   in an instant..   they could actually put in code that would check our systems when we were offline...  and then let it run in the background for a month or two to store up as many people as possible..  then next time we all get online it would be notified at a certain date..    they could easily do that...  they could catch most of us all at once....   SCARY
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Xeero on August 28, 2003, 08:37:00 AM
Wait until late September.  By then we should have a pretty good handle on how to get around Live's new quirks.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Ces2k3 on August 28, 2003, 08:42:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on August 28, 2003, 11:53:00 AM
as u all may know xbox live users get an automatic download in a random time in september,

Basically what I need is the rules laid straight out for me, what to do, and what not to do, I've asked this question before but never got exactly what I should do.

For example, should I keep my ethernet cable out the whole entire month of september, becuz it might contain new checks, or what, please help, Thanks!
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 28, 2003, 01:34:00 PM
QUOTE (xbox11334)
as u all may know xbox live users get an automatic download in a random time in september,

Basically what I need is the rules laid straight out for me, what to do, and what not to do, I've asked this question before but never got exactly what I should do.

For example, should I keep my ethernet cable out the whole entire month of september, becuz it might contain new checks, or what, please help, Thanks!
We do not know yet. Wait till the new dash comes out. But, don't worry, MS will tell you that an update will come, as a message from Xbox Live (like when you got the down time message for the changes in the TOS this month)
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: DaShiZNiT on August 28, 2003, 09:29:00 PM
I too use the password feature. And I am not very worried, as it says, were just getting a new dashboard. I mean there is no way that they can update out BIOS'. So when the NEW dashboard is loaded up, youll be logged into Live. But if your switch is on, and your starting Evo-X, then how is it going to go on live?

Its always going to be a cat and mouse game, this "new" dashboard, will not only get us all going, but yuo can bet your ass, that newer boxes, will come with this version, making current hacks unusable..

Only time will tell.

Xeero, I have a few UNBANNED eeproms if you need one, get @ me.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: onemonkey on August 29, 2003, 10:11:00 AM
The new dashboard will automatically connect to live when you turn your xbox on. This presents a problem to gamers playing games on xbox connect with a modded xbox. As soon as you plug in the ethernet cord your xbox will connect to live... even if you don't want to.

Just to clear some things up...

Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: heinrich on August 29, 2003, 10:33:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 29, 2003, 12:49:00 PM
QUOTE (onemonkey @ Aug 29 2003, 02:11 PM)
The new dashboard will automatically connect to live when you turn your xbox on. This presents a problem to gamers playing games on xbox connect with a modded xbox. As soon as you plug in the ethernet cord your xbox will connect to live... even if you don't want to.

Just to clear some things up...

Are you serious?!  blink.gif

....merging with PINNED thread....
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: echto on August 29, 2003, 06:30:00 PM
QUOTE (shanafan @ Aug 29 2003, 12:49 PM)
QUOTE (onemonkey @ Aug 29 2003, 02:11 PM)
The new dashboard will automatically connect to live when you turn your xbox on. This presents a problem to gamers playing games on xbox connect with a modded xbox. As soon as you plug in the ethernet cord your xbox will connect to live... even if you don't want to.

Just to clear some things up...

Are you serious?!  blink.gif

....merging with PINNED thread....

I seriously doubt it.  There is going to have to be a opt out option.  If not this will be a serious privacy issue AND unauthorized use of someone's paid for service.  MS DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO USE SOMEONES BROADBAND SERVICE WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT PERIOD!  Simply purchasing an appliance, an xbox for example, or game is not an authorization or consent.

If MS is going to use my broadband when they feel like it while I am playing my xbox are they going to help cover the monthly cost of it?  I will expect them to.

Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: MrSelfDestruct on August 30, 2003, 10:08:00 AM
Here are some new pics of the LIVE 2.0 dash. these pics were released today.......

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Also....I got these off of Teamxbox.com. TXB is an independent website, meaning...they have no affiliation with MS. They somehow got a copy of the new dash and got to check it out (noteL the gamertags in the pics are all TXB gamertags). I bet if some of you guys emailed them from their website, and just kinda asked like you were curious about the technical aspects of the dash....I bet they would tell you. Even better yet....I am going to add both of those gamertags to my friends list, and see if i can find them online, and ask them about it
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 30, 2003, 10:42:00 AM
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See the back button in the third pictureI wonder what it goes back to?
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: MrSelfDestruct on August 30, 2003, 04:08:00 PM
yea, but I what I think M$ has been proposing, is to have your dash connect to LIVE whenever you turn your xbox on, which would be a nuisance. I know a while back someone proposed the idea of just keeping your LIVE account on a memory card, and delete it off your xbox HDD. Then you will login to LIVE when YOU want to, and not when m$ wants you to.

But...all we can really do is hold our breath and wait with fingers crossed, hoping that m$ isnt hell bent screwing modders
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: MrSelfDestruct on August 30, 2003, 09:15:00 PM
interesting.....

I HAVE heard rumors that MS is already implementing their new LIVE features. right now, and they will just add the cosmetics to it in mid sept.

How exactly did you get banned? did it tell you that you were banned? or can you just not login to LIVE now
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Crusader on August 31, 2003, 04:22:00 AM
QUOTE (Prophet210 @ Aug 31 2003, 07:39 AM)
I double checked to see if my mod chip was off booted up put the game in told it which account to use nothing new then it started to connect, then popped up with an error that it could connect and launched the Network Troubleshooter. Began auto detecting everything went fine then on the last step it gave me the error

Error Message: "Your Xbox console cannot communicate with Xbox Live because the software or hardware may have been modified"

that was it.

P.S. never had a problem before, I played Wolfenstein alot.

I've played dozens of NFL Fever online games the past several days with my modchip off and have not been banned.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: pimpkid on August 31, 2003, 09:10:00 AM
Prophet210 what chip do you have?  It'd be nice to know just in case it was an older chip or an lpc mod simply fitted with a switch on the d0 line.  

Also, do you have evox or other software on your hd?  if so ...which partition?  Do you have an upgraded hd?
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on August 31, 2003, 02:44:00 PM
QUOTE (fury @ Aug 31 2003, 02:13 PM)
my brother told me yesterday that he had been banned as well.  he got the same error as Prophet, and said it happened after his xboxlive got updated on the 25th i believe.

he has a matrix btw, stock hdd, evox installed on c partition

There was no Xbox Live update on the 25th. The only "update" that has been told about was the downtime on Live on August 14th when MS was updating their TOS.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Prophet210 on August 31, 2003, 06:03:00 PM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on September 01, 2003, 10:33:00 AM
Can someone please just do me one favor, just tell me what to do to be safe until this thing comes out, can I ftp via evox????  or will that leave me unsecure with this thing updating me?



Thank You for Your Time
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on September 01, 2003, 06:24:00 PM
QUOTE (SkiLLz2g2 @ Sep 1 2003, 10:17 PM)
ph34r.gif  im scared i dont understand how you get banned with a modchip off playing fever 2004

You can't....don't listen to what people say....
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on September 01, 2003, 06:26:00 PM
QUOTE (xbox11334 @ Sep 1 2003, 02:33 PM)
Can someone please just do me one favor, just tell me what to do to be safe until this thing comes out, can I ftp via evox????  or will that leave me unsecure with this thing updating me?



Thank You for Your Time

Don't use Live after the update to know what has happened.

Yes, you can still FTP to your Xbox without connecting to Live...

Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Sir Auros on September 01, 2003, 08:17:00 PM
Hey, how's about posting in this thread? That way we can start seeing the consistency or who's full of bullshit or is just a dumbass who got his ass banned for doing something ignorant.

I'm sick of seeing all these people complaining about getting banned with their chips off when they don't even have the cajones to call MS when they're likely either...

A-Lying to scare people.
B-dumbasses who did something dumbasstardly to get banned.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: SkiLLz2g2 on September 02, 2003, 04:12:00 AM
if they did do a scan more than once HD swapping would do the trick... just have your old hd with just your msdash
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: scottrico on September 03, 2003, 10:35:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: scottrico on September 03, 2003, 11:23:00 AM
I am here at  home and I am able to log onto xbox live with nfl fever 2004 and everything is fine.

rummor squashed!

peace
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on September 03, 2003, 12:21:00 PM
quote:f they did do a scan more than once HD swapping would do the trick... just have your old hd with just your msdash:end quote


wait a second, i have an idea, what if we did this, hdd swapping might do the trick, but people still wanna play there games on their hdd that they spent lots of good $$ on...so...what if we added a hdd switcher, but, then, how would we fit it in the box, can someone help me, i'm not letting m$ ban me, and i'm gonna play my games on my hdd...

thanks
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on September 03, 2003, 06:41:00 PM
QUOTE (scottrico @ Sep 3 2003, 07:42 PM)
Someone here had a moddified ghost recon save and they was thought they got band but when he erased the save, he was unbanded again.

So relax, they not scaning hard drives. at lease not yet.

But I think a program to scan your hard drive would have to be installed on your system to work, I dont think they can legally search your hard drive from the internet (live).

I know one way they can do it but I not going to say because they read these boards too.

What? They had a hacked Ghost Recon save file, got banned from Live, they erased the file from their Xbox, and then got unbanned?
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: DaShiZNiT on September 04, 2003, 07:47:00 AM
All I want to add to this thread is

Any "software" that could be downloaded to the xbox to "scan" files, would only see whats on the "e" drive. With out a HACKED BIOS, there is no way for US, or THEM to see ANYTHING ON THE F DRIVE.

Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: mrRobinson on September 04, 2003, 10:34:00 AM
what would be the big deal if the dash tries to connect to live as soon as you turn your xbox on?  I mean it would only run the ms dash if you mod chip was off so you wouldn't be banned.  and if modchip on you'd be loadin evox or mxm etc so nothing could log on to live unless you wanted it to at that point...
I mean it would make for a lot more "mistakes" of people getting banned but if thats all they do then its not so bad.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on September 04, 2003, 10:47:00 AM
QUOTE (mrRobinson @ Sep 4 2003, 02:34 PM)
what would be the big deal if the dash tries to connect to live as soon as you turn your xbox on?  I mean it would only run the ms dash if you mod chip was off so you wouldn't be banned.  and if modchip on you'd be loadin evox or mxm etc so nothing could log on to live unless you wanted it to at that point...
I mean it would make for a lot more "mistakes" of people getting banned but if thats all they do then its not so bad.

Yeah, but what happens when you load a Live game? MS acts like this Live games will always be online when you are playing them, even offline. Does the connectivity carry over from the dash...questions that need answering, but won't be answered till the dash comes out
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on September 04, 2003, 11:56:00 AM
QUOTE (scottrico @ Sep 4 2003, 12:42 AM)
Someone here had a moddified ghost recon save and they was thought they got band but when he erased the save, he was unbanded again.

So relax, they not scaning hard drives. at lease not yet.

But I think a program to scan your hard drive would have to be installed on your system to work, I dont think they can legally search your hard drive from the internet (live).

I know one way they can do it but I not going to say because they read these boards too.

they read these boards, man, it's a good thing they don't know who we are
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: RuFf rYdA on September 05, 2003, 08:02:00 AM
thats true
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: SkiLLz2g2 on September 05, 2003, 08:15:00 AM
so that means theres going to be service through all your games hmm thats strange.. if i was suppose to play halo and xbox live was searching for it that means we would still be connected to the dash in someway.. if im right (hopefully) then backups should work with the modchip on because maybe when you put a cd in and load it on the msdash and when the MS title appears under the logo it probably detects live then and when you use evox or w.e dash it wouldnt know to detect for live.. probably wrong but all i know is that ill be doing a little HD swapping for a while
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Thornn on September 05, 2003, 01:39:00 PM
Hey all,

Trying to figure out if any changes have been made already to the live front end yet or if the kid staying with me got me banned by not paying attention to what I told him over and over not to do.

I am banned now and he says he didn't mess up.  Is it possible m$ has pushed down new live features yet?

Thanks,
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: electricd7 on September 05, 2003, 01:57:00 PM
Think you better smack your friend.  No new dash yet.

ED7
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Thornn on September 05, 2003, 02:09:00 PM
Thanks ED7

That is what I thought but wanted to make sure after reading some of the latest posts here with some people claiming to of been mysteriously banned.

So I just need to go buy a new xbox and can use the same live account or get a hold an eeprom?  Anyone know a place that sells eeproms?  If that information can not be posted please message me.

Thanks,
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: MemphisReins on September 05, 2003, 02:31:00 PM
Personally I would go buy another Xbox if you can afford to and use that one specifically for Live. Save you the hassle of trying to get another EEPROM (Unless you have a friend with a modded box who never uses live in which case convince him to let you use his EEPROM).

That way you will never have to worry about getting banned. All you have to do is perform the Account Recovery on the new box and there you go.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on September 06, 2003, 10:54:00 AM
QUOTE (Booger2003 @ Sep 6 2003, 10:35 AM)
If I already used the account recovery once after I did th switch mod, can I use it again if I get a new box, and are we even sure we need a new box yet, won't we be able to do something with the new dash so people with a locked hd and switch will be ok?

Yes, you can do Account Recovery as many times as you want.

About the new dash, we really do not know. If you want to play a Live-enabled backup, will it connect to Live at the main menu "behind the scenes"?

This stuff we do not know.

Your best bet is don't access Live after the update so we know what to expect.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on September 06, 2003, 08:50:00 PM
QUOTE (SkiLLz2g2 @ Sep 7 2003, 12:15 AM)
what is the exact date of live 2.0?

From Xbox Live.com...

Mid-September (probably will get a message in Xbox Live shortly before the update to make the users aware)
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Crusader on September 07, 2003, 05:14:00 AM
QUOTE (MemphisReins @ Sep 5 2003, 11:31 PM)
Personally I would go buy another Xbox if you can afford to and use that one specifically for Live. Save you the hassle of trying to get another EEPROM (Unless you have a friend with a modded box who never uses live in which case convince him to let you use his EEPROM).

That way you will never have to worry about getting banned. All you have to do is perform the Account Recovery on the new box and there you go.

I disagree. Most people will sell you a new eeprom for 10 bucks. Installing them is easy, just ask for help if you need it. Once you do it once, you'll have no problem doing it again.

I doubt you will screw up enough times to warrant buying another Xbox, even taking into account the minor hassle of worrying about it and dealing with eeproms.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: DaShiZNiT on September 07, 2003, 11:08:00 AM
Ok heres the deal, if your using a pc with a router and your xbox is pluged into the router, you more than likely have an ip adress like 192.168.0.* to your xbox...

When evox is first ran it resets your IP, to whatever is set in its *.ini, so if you run a game from your HDD, the system STILL has the IP from that. I know this becuase every time I "flip the switch" to go on live, I get the "cannot connect to live" and then it goes to the trouble shooter, where it shows that my IP settings are on MANUAL and set to what EVoX had. When I put it back on automatic, I am connected.

Another great way to bypass Live with the chip on is to have a password for your acct.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Bravo on September 08, 2003, 05:37:00 AM
Just remove your dam live account. With the new Dash that's comming out I'm betting that it'll mess up alot of modded box's anyways. Buy another xbox, used even, and use that for live, that's what I did
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Ces2k3 on September 08, 2003, 06:18:00 AM
OR U CAN  just have your live account saved to a memory card and just pop it in when ever u wanna play and remove it when u dont
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: brienj on September 09, 2003, 06:12:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on September 09, 2003, 11:30:00 AM
What if...someone made something, not software, but hardware, that will block the lpc ports and the switch will turn off the d0 point when wanted....couldn't we do that?
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on September 09, 2003, 11:49:00 AM
another question, if MS did hdd scanning, could they search on the F drive, if so, is ther e a way to put evox on there and launch it?
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Squirrel_ESS_GEN on September 09, 2003, 01:12:00 PM
QUOTE (happypaul @ Aug 7 2003, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (RayTwoOneThree @ Aug 6 2003, 06:30 AM)
I really dont care about the update.I have 2 XBOX's 1 chipped the other isnt.I dont know what everyone is all worried about you can just unplug your cablea and there for your xbox wont be able to log on....

2 xboxs are the best! one for live. one for backups... no need to worry about getting banned.

I couldnt agree more, and for those who say that it isnt economical, just use the money your saving from NOT BUYING GAMES (i know we are supposed to have the original copies, but some of us dont think this way).
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on September 09, 2003, 01:12:00 PM
QUOTE (xbox11334 @ Sep 9 2003, 03:49 PM)
another question, if MS did hdd scanning, could they search on the F drive, if so, is ther e a way to put evox on there and launch it?

Yes, you can boot EvolutionX from F:

Edit your BIOS using XBTool
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Drexon on September 09, 2003, 01:14:00 PM
When I know It's out for sure, and I have to get a Live-enabled game, I'm building a god damn HDD-switch, that's for sure.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on September 09, 2003, 03:56:00 PM
if i put a banned eeprom on my xbox for the time being, then ms could DEFINENTLY  NOT update me with the update, right???
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: shanafan on September 09, 2003, 04:12:00 PM
QUOTE (xbox11334 @ Sep 9 2003, 07:56 PM)
if i put a banned eeprom on my xbox for the time being, then ms could DEFINENTLY  NOT update me with the update, right???

Can't get an update from Live when you can't get on  cool.gif
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on September 09, 2003, 04:40:00 PM
and, if when evox does the ip settings, and then i switch my modchip off and log onto live, and says it can't log in, so i troubleshoot, and it says it can't log in cuzza ip, cuz it was set to evox settings before, does this mean that i am also safe from the update, lol


Thanks!
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Telemachus on September 09, 2003, 05:16:00 PM
Wow.. EBgames is now offering Xbox live starter kit AND PSO for $50.  For the first time, I am really tempted to go Live.

When does that new dashboard come out?
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Slipknot6d9 on September 09, 2003, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE (Telemachus @ Sep 9 2003, 06:16 PM)
Wow.. EBgames is now offering Xbox live starter kit AND PSO for $50.  For the first time, I am really tempted to go Live.

When does that new dashboard come out?

sweet, i'll go get my #2 subscription, even though i've never played PSO, i'll try it!!
......XBL 2.0 comes out September 12

------back to topic

wouldn't that be fucking funny as hell if Xbox Live Now 2.0 is installed on the xbox named "evoxdash.xbe" in the root of C:\??? I think it would be a halarious weak attempt to disable us from usin our modded xbox's!!
( i know, don't insult me, just trying to make a joke)

p.s. I'LL BE A TEST DUMMY AND TRY XBOX LIVE 2.0 THE FIRST DAY IT COMES OUT!!!!------I'LL POST MY RESULTZ!!!!!

Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Telemachus on September 09, 2003, 05:48:00 PM
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Slipknot, do wou just have a switch to turn off the chip?
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Slipknot6d9 on September 09, 2003, 08:26:00 PM
yea, i have an X2: pro, so i just switch all the switches off to play online
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: CloudEx on September 09, 2003, 09:07:00 PM
Your help is greatly appreciated!  Trust me!
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Telemachus on September 10, 2003, 10:03:00 AM
QUOTE (Slipknot6d9 @ Sep 10 2003, 05:26 AM)
yea, i have an X2: pro, so i just switch all the switches off to play online

I am thinking of installing a switch for my Chameleon.  The Eject button will turn it off, but it would seem safer to have a hard switch.  I wish I could make it default to off, and turn it on when I want it.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: rahula on September 10, 2003, 10:28:00 AM
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Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: xbox11334 on September 10, 2003, 11:41:00 AM
if they did hard drive scanning, then, could we install a hard drive switch between the original hd with it's original hd contents and the other hd we bought with it's contents
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Telemachus on September 10, 2003, 12:10:00 PM
QUOTE (xbox11334 @ Sep 10 2003, 08:41 PM)
if they did hard drive scanning, then, could we install a hard drive switch between the original hd with it's original hd contents and the other hd we bought with it's contents

The problem would be if you ever modified the dates on your old HD.  If you never touched it, you are in great shape.

I doubt they will scan it.  2 more days, and we will know.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: whoknew on September 10, 2003, 05:15:00 PM
QUOTE (xbox11334 @ Sep 9 2003, 03:49 PM)
another question, if MS did hdd scanning, could they search on the F drive, if so, is ther e a way to put evox on there and launch it?

/me was just thinking... they can't update your TSOP becuz you need to solder those 2 jumpers... so they couldnt update the bios. the partition table support for F isn't built into the original BIOS.. soo they couldnt find anything on the F partion, right? Or am I underestimating the software capabilities? If i am correct, copying everything to F would instantly protect you from live, granted your 'chip is off and you locked your HD.
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: Slipknot6d9 on September 10, 2003, 06:56:00 PM
sounds good to me, but i'm too lazy to move it all... plus someones gotta try it out
Title: Pre-XBOX LIVE NOW 2.0
Post by: PerfectModifications on September 10, 2003, 08:10:00 PM
What about this? http://www.xbox.com/...res-Roaming.htm
I would think this would work too?