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Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: hump on May 07, 2003, 08:04:00 AM
i dont even know if its possible but i thought i would ask and find out.

thx hump smile.gif
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: chilin_dude on May 07, 2003, 08:26:00 AM
QUOTE (hump @ May 7 2003, 05:04 PM)
i dont even know if its possible but i thought i would ask and find out.

thx hump smile.gif

it WILL be done in the near future...however MS will manage to find a way around it i think and then everyone will be screwed again!
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Xeero on May 07, 2003, 08:29:00 AM
I can be done (at some point) but I very much hope that everyone has the integrity to abstain from doing so and cheating the entire network.
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: fizgig10 on May 07, 2003, 08:39:00 AM
I think one of the choices should be:

I don't have the knowledge to make an educated guess
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: hump on May 07, 2003, 08:40:00 AM
will m$ know the scecond you log on that your running a mod or a game thats backed up?

will the cracked or cracked live be a permenent thing or will you have to update your codes?

thx hump
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Large Dopant white on May 07, 2003, 08:58:00 AM
Anyone remember PSO on the DC and going online with it? How you got Nolled and PKed to shit because you could use a Gameshark or an Xploder? That's how XBox Live would be if it got 'cracked'. I pray to the sun god that a loophole is never found to allow mods online with it, or otherwise it'd be PSO on the DC all over again, except it'd affect EVERY game that's XBox Live compatable.
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Notorious_eater on May 07, 2003, 09:08:00 AM
i hope that they can crack it but only to a degree where you can play with your backups   rolleyes.gif
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: leigao84 on May 07, 2003, 10:50:00 AM
Well, the day it's cracked it's the day we come up with the key to sign our own software.

Cause M$ will do everything in their power to stop people from modding. If it becomes too rampant, they may simply start to bann accounts...

I wish it never gets cracked.
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: hump on May 07, 2003, 05:42:00 PM
thats a different point of view but i hope they do crack it. i just dont have the funds to to play online but i realy like to.

thx hump

Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: sulfur on May 07, 2003, 07:23:00 PM
hm... new xbox live update soon hope is doesn't screw us modders....
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: RenHoek on May 08, 2003, 05:50:00 AM
If u want to play online with a modded box, go and download a tunnel software, such as xbconnect.com. Lets keep LIVE uncracked, ppl!
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: leigao84 on May 08, 2003, 12:06:00 PM
Anyone remeber bnet? What about Everquest? Anyone have cracked PSO yet??
Hump, we're talking about playing backups online, you're thinking of playing online for free, which is just next to impossible to be done, since no one would like to go to jail so some lamer 12 year olds who got no money can play for free for like 3 days.
Now, I'll be careful with the new patch and see what it do for others before I download it, I'm kinda sacred...
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: lc204 on May 08, 2003, 12:44:00 PM
QUOTE (mitsu50 @ May 8 2003, 12:27 PM)
And for those that want to play so called "backups" on xbox live, why not just use the "original" you paid for??????

I "misplaced" all my originals so I'm left with backups.  wink.gif
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Notorious_eater on May 08, 2003, 12:54:00 PM
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no but serious i dont wanne see xbl hacked in a way where every one can cheat and edit the rankings etc.
but if you could play with backups on xbl it would be cool
and its true i dont have enough money to get every game i want legally (not 12 tho)
now i know what your thinking:just get a job then,well i have one but there are more things that you have to pay for then xbox games  wink.gif
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: leigao84 on May 08, 2003, 07:49:00 PM
QUOTE (Yankee427 @ May 8 2003, 10:05 PM)
It would be great to be able to play backups on LIVE because then I could just load them from the hard drive and not have to get out of my chair to change or put in games.  I am lazy and the least I have to get up the better.  They are all games that I own and I like them better on the hard drive because the games load a lot faster and are easier to play.  Also, my DVD ROM drive gives me a lot of dirty disk errors so its good when I can load from the hard drive and get none of these errors.

That would be the only reason to get LIVE cracked.   It would suck if people started going on there with cheat codes or crap like that.

right, we believe you..... not
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: XeroKitsune on May 08, 2003, 08:39:00 PM
I don't want XBox Live to be cracked, but it would be nice if there was a way to emulate xbl on a diffrent server and do a redirect to the new server. =^.^=
The xbox connect will work with link games but some of the newer games nolonger support this. The idea of a Capcom VS SNK 2 eo lanparty sounds fun.
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: painless on May 09, 2003, 01:16:00 AM
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Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Notorious_eater on May 09, 2003, 02:23:00 AM
but isnt there a way to make xbl think the backup is an original game so no one can cheat anymore then there doing now but everyone will be able to play on live with backups
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: XbOxGoD on May 09, 2003, 03:46:00 AM
QUOTE (Notorious_eater @ May 9 2003, 10:23 AM)
but isnt there a way to make xbl think the backup is an original game so no one can cheat anymore then there doing now but everyone will be able to play on live with backups

wtf does that mean?

i'm sorry but if it really was backups that werte being played, i.e god honest 100% unmoddified copies of peoples actually owned original games. then i wouldn't mind at all. but i think this clearly about playing cheap, illegal pirate copies of games! I pay for my live service and i'm happy to pay for games that are great on it, and if when janurary rolls around halo 2 hits the market i don't want to log onto live and find some twat who downloaded the pre release ProjectWhatever Scene release and has being playing on live before me who has waited for the privelidge to play a great game online. If you are that desperate to play backups on the internet use xbconnect at least u can play halo.
sorry for the rant but i hope live never ever gets hacked, i have a 2nd xbox purely for live and every live enable game "except whacked cos it's shit" i bout 80% of them second hand cos i'm by no means full of cash!

Never ever hack live! Boycott any chip that is ever released that allows this.
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Notorious_eater on May 09, 2003, 07:55:00 AM
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Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Notorious_eater on May 09, 2003, 02:13:00 PM
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Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: XeroKitsune on May 09, 2003, 02:44:00 PM
The problem with playing backups means the xbox is nolonger checking the if the software is valid. If you can play on the real XBLive with a backup, what would show to the service if the item was patched?
Upon all things rember, if it can go wrong it will especialy where trust of a person is involved. For if people were not exploiting trusted systems in ways that agrivate otheres, there would be no e-mail Spam. =^.^=
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: XbOxGoD on May 09, 2003, 03:20:00 PM
QUOTE (Notorious_eater @ May 9 2003, 10:13 PM)
i mean other people's backups that i have wink.gif

that still being illegal of course you inbred fool  mad.gif
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Rebel-Soul on May 09, 2003, 03:57:00 PM
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Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: Rebel-Soul on May 09, 2003, 04:00:00 PM
QUOTE (painless @ May 9 2003, 10:16 AM)
All of those that are now hoping that they can play 'backup' games on LIVE in the near future, will reconsider once it actually is possible.. Lots of people will begin cheating, and you will never know if that other guy is just really good, or is using cheats to become invincible.

LETS ALL HOPE THAT LIVE NEVER GETS CRACKED. unsure.gif

you seemed confused! have you ever heard of HALO HACK it is basically cheats for halo you CANT use it on XBC of SPY it jst done work that way. YOur right in the sense that it is POSIBLE but not likely
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: spIdeZ on May 09, 2003, 07:45:00 PM
beerchug.gif I usually only play on servers that are just jacking around and not for competition
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: PillMonster on May 10, 2003, 01:55:00 AM
** HOW TO HACK XBOX LIVE **

It can be done, but the moment it is MS will release a new set up updates which will require hacking again.
I suspect the way forward on hacking Xbox live is to use the James Bond - Agent Under Fire save game trick with code to launch an unsigned disk. This would get around the BIOS detection problem. (Dont know if you'd need to mess with the DVD drive to disable reboot on eject or if this code be done in code)
I guess the second problem would be disabling any protection checks being done by the game itself during loads, etc. This could require a lot of work and mean writing your own loader code instead of calling the default one in the BIOS.
Thirdly would be the problem of the game potentially doing CRC checks on the code in memory etc (Perhaps even dynamically via xbox live updates in future protection!)
This is a hell of a lot of work just to get one game working on Xbox live - but possible. The crucial key here is that you are getting rid of the MS BIOS CRC check protection by not altering the BIOS - and it should be relatively easy to track down the calling points in the game itself that need patching. Quite a bit of code to write your own loader methods, but possible!
Title: Cracking Xbox Live
Post by: J Do on May 16, 2003, 06:56:00 PM
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And for those that want to play so called "backups" on xbox live, why not just use the "original" you paid for??????

Ehhh....last time I checked....that was the point of making a backup, so you didnt have to use your original!!!   Might be wrong though!! cool.gif