Post by: rewen on December 29, 2002, 06:07:00 PM
If the C partition was big enough to fit any of my games I would have already put a game on it and renamed the game's default.xbe as xboxdash.xbe, but there's a 2nd problem to my idea, the C partition is too small. This brings up another idea, can we modify the xbox hdprepar13 program to format a HDD and make the C partition bigger, and would the original MS bios accept this change? That way we could put the games on C and even though it would be a little bit of work, we would turn on the MOD, copy the game to C, rename the game's default.xbe to xboxdash.xbe, turn off the mod, play the game on Xbox Live. Then for the next game you want to play you have to move your previous game into another folder/partition, move the new game into the root, rename the xbes, etc etc.
All in all it's worth playing on Xbox Live (at least, it is in my opinion).
What are your opinion's and views on this? Does anyone have a game or signed program that is under 300mb (I think that's what the C partition size is, I can't remember)?
Post by: rewen on December 29, 2002, 06:25:00 PM
But the 2nd idea which is more acessable would be flawed =/
Post by: shanafan on December 29, 2002, 06:30:00 PM
Where is opjose when we need him?!
Post by: ArMaGeDdOn on December 29, 2002, 10:33:00 PM
Post by: fatbastard911 on December 29, 2002, 10:55:00 PM
i think it won't would work cause the modchip would be off and the backup has to be a digitally signed xbe in order to launch...I must say U can start trying by just using a simple backup like crazy taxi 3, see if it works then move up to a game like unreal championship deleting all movie files, etc....
I'll test and try this theory fot the hell of it and get back to you all....
I'm absolute that Im just wasting my time... and I know it...!
Post by: rewen on December 30, 2002, 02:33:00 AM
How big is C?
EDIT: C is about 400mb and about 333mb is free (for me at least). Are any games this small? I might even try just copying over the xbox live demo disc, but that doesn't do a whole lot for my satisfaction, even if it works. However that will launch 2 files on C if you were to use it as the dash, so we have a signed program that can launch files - 1 step closer to lanching files on another partition. If I'm not making sense, ask me again tomorrow (it's now 5:20am here
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Post by: rewen on December 30, 2002, 02:36:00 AM
http://www.backup-so...ox_ini_crc.html
Maybe I'm misinformed
EDIT: I thought that had to do with putting CRCs onto Bios files (it's 5am and I haven't gone to bed yet lol). I still haven't been able to read it and keep track of where I am on it but I think it has to do with FINDING CRCs of bios and adding them to the evox.ini so that it doens't say unknown). Sorry for any confusion. Send your complants to [email protected]
Post by: rewen on December 30, 2002, 11:53:00 PM
Post by: shanafan on December 31, 2002, 12:29:00 AM
IT WILL NOT WORK
Post by: fatbastard911 on December 31, 2002, 09:42:00 PM
So in the end; 1) w/ modchip off or on and the game as xboxdash.xbe the game did not load up
2) But; BoXplorer loaded the game up fine in EvoX afterwards so all the files were intact.
Sorry guys but it aint going to happen w/ modchip off or even on. Life sucks. Im out!!!!
Good luck with any other experiments....
Post by: shanafan on December 31, 2002, 09:44:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| I did it and to no avail, I tried with Crazy taxi 3 high roller: and it did not boot up, just hung in the loading screen. To do this I had just deleted the Audio folder and xodash folder (first backing it up obviously) and the game fit just perfectly at 374MB but it did not load. To test to see if I had moved the files corectly I had just used BoXplorer and loaded the file I placed as xboxdash.xbe - which is the crazy taxi High Roller 3 file. BoXplorer loaded the game up perfectly and I played it through to make sure there was no defects. So in the end; 1) w/ modchip off or on and the game as xboxdash.xbe the game did not load up 2) But; BoXplorer loaded the game up fine in EvoX afterwards so all the files were intact. Sorry guys but it aint going to happen w/ modchip off or even on. Life sucks. Im out!!!! Good luck with any other experiments.... |
Well duh. I told you guys that this won't work.
Post by: shanafan on December 31, 2002, 09:59:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| oh yeah my hdd is locked fully and plays live well~ and when the modchip is switched off w/ Xecuter modchip the Xbox goes back into default state.... |
Stating the obvious...
Post by: rewen on December 31, 2002, 10:40:00 PM
Maybe the bios has something to do with emulating the HDD as a disc, god knows, oh well, damnit all to hell
Post by: ArMaGeDdOn on January 01, 2003, 12:34:00 AM
i mean, really. how stupid do you think MS is? this is basic stuff. for fucks sake.
note: i did try it. and as i expected, it failed with an error 13. works with modchip on, but not with modchip off. now please, someone fucking close this thread!
Post by: shanafan on January 01, 2003, 01:17:00 AM
Post by: ArMaGeDdOn on January 01, 2003, 08:33:00 AM
Post by: shanafan on January 01, 2003, 12:22:00 PM
Post by: fatbastard911 on January 01, 2003, 01:39:00 PM
I knew it was flawed but I wanted to prove it because then no more questions would be asked about it.....The xboxdash.xbe is signed while the default.xbe (ripped ct3) is not. That's all there is to it.....
The weird part is when I tried this with modchip on the default.xbe for ct3 didn't even try to boot aswell. Only boxplorer worked. That's weird......Anyways I know It was a waste but who knows w/ all of the diferent bioses out there....
Post by: ArMaGeDdOn on January 01, 2003, 03:38:00 PM
Post by: rewen on January 01, 2003, 04:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (Aspect @ Jan 1 2003, 05:42 AM) |
| Wont work for a few reasons. First, when you remove an XBE from its disc, and plop it down onto your hard disc, its not going to run. Only after you set the flag to allow it to boot from the hard disc will it run with a mod chip. Without a mod chip, the signature will be incorrect (due to setting of the HDD flag) and the game will not boot. It cant be done. There are two ways to play your "backup" *cough* warez *cough* games on xbox live. First, would be to bootstrap a cracked bios into memory and execute it from there hoping that xbox live will think that the normal bios in its normal memory region is good. The next way is to emulate the DVD drive. Andy is working on such a device. Parata (http://www.warmcat.c...sop/parata.html) will emulate any ide device. So, if you make the drive think theres a correct disc in, the xbox should let that "backed up" game onto live. Did I lose anyone? -Aspect |
Aspect - What's the point in emulating the DVD drive if the program that does it won't run with the mod disabled...
ArMaGeDdOn - if you don't like it, go start your own board and get nothing accomplished because you're afraid to try things and you seem to think you know all, but there are always holes and flaws that will allow things to work, and not to work, which you DON'T always know about.
Post by: shanafan on January 01, 2003, 04:15:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| ArMaGeDdOn - if you don't like it, go start your own board and get nothing accomplished because you're afraid to try things and you seem to think you know all, but there are always holes and flaws that will allow things to work, and not to work, which you DON'T always know about. |
The reason he was against it is because the idea was flawed. Yes, it is good to try things, but the idea has to seem logical.
Post by: ArMaGeDdOn on January 01, 2003, 05:35:00 PM
| QUOTE (rewen @ Jan 1 2003, 11:11 PM) | ||
Aspect - What's the point in emulating the DVD drive if the program that does it won't run with the mod disabled... ArMaGeDdOn - if you don't like it, go start your own board and get nothing accomplished because you're afraid to try things and you seem to think you know all, but there are always holes and flaws that will allow things to work, and not to work, which you DON'T always know about. |
as i mentioned in my post above, it's good that at least people are trying it. but i hate people that create completely false hope for others!
Post by: rewen on January 01, 2003, 08:27:00 PM
Other people can still gather from flawed ideas and improve upon them.
Post by: shanafan on January 01, 2003, 09:45:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| As for shanafan and armageddon, I don't see how it isn't logical, how was I or anyone else supposed to know that you can't have another file as the dash. |
Let's say that you have an X-ecutor1 and your EvolutionX dash is xboxdash.xbe. When you switch your X-ecutor1 off, does EvolutionX, let alone your Xbox, still boot? NOPE
I wish Opjose was here...
Post by: ElementXP on January 01, 2003, 10:01:00 PM
couldn't that load as your main dash with you modchip off, and use that to browse for game files you wanted to play?
Post by: ElementXP on January 01, 2003, 10:07:00 PM
Post by: shanafan on January 01, 2003, 10:12:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| what if you where to upload Boxplorer as your xboxdash.xbe, couldn't that load as your main dash with you modchip off, and use that to browse for game files you wanted to play? |
NO!!
Post by: rewen on January 01, 2003, 10:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (shanafan @ Jan 2 2003, 04:45 AM) | ||
Let's say that you have an X-ecutor1 and your EvolutionX dash is xboxdash.xbe. When you switch your X-ecutor1 off, does EvolutionX, let alone your Xbox, still boot? NOPE I wish Opjose was here... |
Well of course not, that's not digitally signed, what the point of this was, is that the games ARE 'signed'........
Post by: shanafan on January 01, 2003, 10:44:00 PM
Post by: shanafan on January 01, 2003, 10:58:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Well of course not, that's not digitally signed, what the point of this was, is that the games ARE 'signed'........ |
Then going by logic, backups on CD should work without a modchip...
Post by: ArMaGeDdOn on January 02, 2003, 02:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (shanafan @ Jan 2 2003, 04:45 AM) | ||
Let's say that you have an X-ecutor1 and your EvolutionX dash is xboxdash.xbe. When you switch your X-ecutor1 off, does EvolutionX, let alone your Xbox, still boot? NOPE I wish Opjose was here... |
well, that's because the bios is pointing to a different file. but yes, that is correct. also to the other guy, how were you supposed to know? a CRC CHECK! it's not hard at all, and is effective. you can expect at LEAST that from MS.
Post by: ArMaGeDdOn on January 02, 2003, 02:27:00 AM
| QUOTE (ElementXP @ Jan 2 2003, 05:07 AM) |
| has some one tried renaming an xboxplorer .xbe to the xboxdash.xbe and tried booting it that way? |
that is fucking gay. did he not read the other posts? if not, let me help you:
THE ORIGINAL XBOX BIOS DOES AT LEAST A CRC CHECK ON XBOXDASH.XBE. IF IT IS NOT THE SAME FILE, IT WILL FUCK YOU UP SOOO HARD!!!
Ooh, incase opjose reads this. Opjose, I noticed that when you install xbox live, your dashboard files change. that includes drive c directory structure and files. i saw that xboxdash.xbe had changed in size. so, the file size change occurred, but the bios wasn't updated. Sorry if i'm sounding like a n00b, but how do you think/know the xboxdash.xbe file is being checked?
Post by: Cheerio on January 02, 2003, 02:31:00 AM