Post by: Oger on November 27, 2002, 12:14:00 AM
Post by: ice1138 on November 27, 2002, 07:54:00 AM
I also would have preferred a temp ban, but we have no control over MS's policy decision (and should we? No.)
-ice1138
Post by: BenJeremy on November 27, 2002, 08:24:00 AM
If it's turned off, they should let them on.... no banning.
When the mod is turned off, nobody can run unsigned code, meaning that XBL's integrity is intact - no cheaters - which is the point of their crusade, right?
Post by: BenJeremy on November 27, 2002, 08:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (zombie4rave @ Nov 27 2002, 11:35 AM) |
| What they are doing here is trying to stop the modding. All they are accomplishing is pissing people off and leading to more mods - eeprom swapping for example. I wouldn't be surprised to see a change in policy at some point. |
Yes, but they legally *can't* stop modding in places like Australia, so their little hissy fit is going to cost them a lawsuit or two, probably, there.
Post by: ice1138 on November 27, 2002, 02:21:00 PM
Everyone who was willing to play the odds that MS would not ban xboxs, you lost. Stop blaiming MS, if I get banned then I'll accept it, in the mean time, ill try everything in my power (short of stealing other people's experience) to stay online.
-ice1138
Post by: shanafan on November 27, 2002, 02:24:00 PM
Post by: Katonta on November 27, 2002, 03:03:00 PM
NO on XBL Banning
Yes to XBL Checking
Post by: yasman on November 27, 2002, 07:58:00 PM
Yes, we wish Ms was not permanetly banning our xbox's. We also wish we can fill our cars with free gas. And EB was a free rental store.
But we can't and its not, so life goes on.
Post by: N00bvin on November 27, 2002, 08:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Nov 28 2002, 12:46 AM) | ||
Yes, but they legally *can't* stop modding in places like Australia, so their little hissy fit is going to cost them a lawsuit or two, probably, there. |
Class action lawsuits? I can see it now... and people will end up getting paid... juries LOVE to stick it to big companies.
I just saw recently... and I pay attention to Japanese news because I used to live there... that a bunch of people won a lawsuit against the US/Japanese government because of the noise from one of the Naval Bases (NAF Atsugi). Each person got like $13,000 because of NOISE!
Not only that, but this NOISE is one thing protecting them from being run over by North Korea! That's why the US is still there. The Japanese gov't pays them to stay!
My point... people sue, people win.
Post by: Spree on November 27, 2002, 08:29:00 PM
I don't give a damn sam flim flam. Skip the peanut butter and jelly i'm ready to jam.
Post by: Spree on November 27, 2002, 08:57:00 PM
Post by: BenJeremy on November 27, 2002, 10:22:00 PM
Of course, it will lead to M$ to concentrate on the users themselves, but perhaps they will abandon the silly S/N ban.
Post by: joeflux on November 27, 2002, 11:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (N00bvin @ Nov 28 2002, 04:25 AM) | ||||
Class action lawsuits? I can see it now... and people will end up getting paid... juries LOVE to stick it to big companies. I just saw recently... and I pay attention to Japanese news because I used to live there... that a bunch of people won a lawsuit against the US/Japanese government because of the noise from one of the Naval Bases (NAF Atsugi). Each person got like $13,000 because of NOISE! Not only that, but this NOISE is one thing protecting them from being run over by North Korea! That's why the US is still there. The Japanese gov't pays them to stay! My point... people sue, people win. |
Class action lawsuit, I received from Apple suit. I bought a G4 450mhz for video editing 2 years ago which DVD didn't play well without skipping.
5 months ago, settlement and I got a stupid OS 9 CD, while Mac os X was out. I already had 9. Oh and they gave me coupons for $10 off a $69 apple keyboard and $10 off a $69 mouse. Are they on crack!
Post by: Spree on November 27, 2002, 11:57:00 PM
Post by: XBOB LIVE on November 28, 2002, 01:23:00 AM
no i meant they said its cause of cheating wich is bullshit. cause you can do as above with no problems.thanx
Post by: trithe on November 28, 2002, 08:12:00 AM
Post by: stratjakt on November 28, 2002, 08:23:00 AM
1) copying a save game is not cheating.
patching the .xbe so you have infinite lives, invulnerability, whatever, is cheating
And there's already such a pach about for halo, which makes xbconnect even lamer.
2) You cant sue, even in australia. Frankly, it's their service, and have the right to deny anyone they want.
Though, I've been hearing they're banning MAC addresses - which is just fucked. It's not like you have to replace the xbox, but your cablemodem as well?
I think the policy, and the service, suck. But it's theirs, they have the right to suck all they want.
AFAIK, there are no such restrictions on the PS2. MSFT is in no position to boss around the console market.
3) If they ban a box, they need to stop billing you immediately. (when the monthly debits kick in, of course - the ride is free for 12 months, then watch 50$ a month getting tacked onto mommas CC)
4) We all knew this would happen for at least a year. If you knew XBL wouldnt work, and modded anyways, you made your own bed, frankly.
Personally I have 2 xboxes, one modded, one not. I had planned on leaving the unmodded one for XBL and originals and whatnot. But now I worry about getting XBL, and someone accidentally taking my modded box online. If they banned the modded box - big deal. If they banned my cablemodems MAC addy, that'd suck, since I own the modem.
I guess my money will go to the BBA for PS2. Twisted Metal Black will be fun online.
Post by: ice1138 on November 29, 2002, 08:51:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Though, I've been hearing they're banning MAC addresses - which is just fucked. It's not like you have to replace the xbox, but your cablemodem as well? |
Im not sure about mac address banning, but it would be the MAC address of the built-in NIC not the MAC address of your cable modem. Thats used for authentication with your ISP, and is not what MS is looking at.
-ice1138
Post by: trithe on November 30, 2002, 07:08:00 AM
Post by: dsswarehouse on November 30, 2002, 01:42:00 PM
Post by: Metroid-X on November 30, 2002, 02:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (trithe @ Nov 30 2002, 02:08 PM) |
| i think you were asking anyone who wanted to read your useless question. Oh and i am someone. Im not a noob either. your the one asking a rediculous question. i think the only who would say the it is fair is ms dingleberry. |
Well then shut the fuck up then. If you didn't like the question, why reply with a smart ass response, and yeah you are a noob thinking you're so hotshot. You're nothing more than a troll, go back to the cave and shut up!!!!
Post by: Satan00 on November 30, 2002, 04:37:00 PM
sorry but trithe is right
you should read the other posts before making yourself feel special, youre acting like a lil kid, this is a forum, expect to get flamed, live with it and calm your nipples
Post by: trithe on November 30, 2002, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: Metroid-X on November 30, 2002, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: forcelite on November 30, 2002, 09:20:00 PM
also I have seen so many damn posts about this, why couldnt you talk in one of those instead of putting yourself is such a tempting place to be flamed.
Post by: trithe on December 01, 2002, 09:38:00 AM
Post by: Fuzzy on December 01, 2002, 09:48:00 AM
