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Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2002, 01:46:00 PM
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Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: {XBX}FrankDawg on November 13, 2002, 01:49:00 PM
QUOTE (shanafan @ Nov 13 2002, 08:46 PM)
NUFF SAID

                                    could you give us faqs
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2002, 01:51:00 PM
1) The service is NOT officially launched yet (I am a beta tester, but still, the service is not officially launched yet)
2) MS is doing work with the service until the official launch so that is why people are experiencing problems.
3) I received my Xbox Live retail disc in the mail and it says that my service will be activated on 11.14.02
4) I have tried disabling my Matrix and using my original HD, and XBox Live is still not found. This "blocking of Xboxes" is just lame.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2002, 01:53:00 PM
Also, when Lord of the Rings was released to the usual places, the game did not work for people. Suddenly, people were saying it was detecting a modded system and won't work! LOL, day later, the case was revealed it was a bad rip.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: benji on November 13, 2002, 01:54:00 PM
i am a beta tester also....

i have tried to log on this eve with my modded box - didnt work

i logged on with my mates unmodded box with my account - it worked

the difference - i think that's obvious.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2002, 01:55:00 PM
I will say that you should be able to connect starting tomorrow or possible Friday. Setting up a global online network is not an easy task. MS will be bombarded with new users this week and they are just preparing for it. I don't understand why people just do not get this.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2002, 01:57:00 PM
QUOTE
i am a beta tester also....

i have tried to log on this eve with my modded box - didnt work

i logged on with my mates unmodded box with my account - it worked

the difference - i think that's obvious.


Yes, it is obvious that MS is preparing to officially launch the service this week.  Give it a couple days.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: Bboy on November 13, 2002, 01:59:00 PM

I can't logon with MotoGp/Whacked demo new or beta. I can not logon to Mechassault. I can logon with Fever demo and dash. This is from a modded system. Not sure what to think.

B
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2002, 01:59:00 PM
What the hell is wrong with you people? This is not hard to understand.

XBOX LIVE IS NOT OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED YET. PEOPLE WILL GET PROBLEMS BEFORE THE OFFICIAL LAUNCH. IS THIS TOO OF A COMPLEX IDEA TO UNDERSTAND?

I wish opjose was here right now...
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2002, 02:02:00 PM
QUOTE
could you give us faqs


Xbox Live FAQ v1.0

Questions

Q)Why can't I connect to Xbox Live? I got the retail kit at Walmart but it says I can't connect. What the hell? Are they blocking my modded system?

A)Xbox Live is not officially launched yet. Try Thursday/Friday.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: benji on November 13, 2002, 02:02:00 PM
i know what your saying shanafan, i really hope you're right.

im in the UK and have had my beta kit for just 3 days now and only managed to play twice, once on monday and once this eve on my mates xbox.

im gutted to say the least.

i know all you guts are experts and stuff, but the only connection i can make between logging on and not is a mod.

it would be fair to say that the majority of ppl that cant get on now are ppl with modded boxes.

i do hope im so wrong and you're spot on.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: DaGamePimp on November 13, 2002, 02:06:00 PM
let us all hope than shanafan is correct with his assumption here [ he probably is , but then again like he said it is not launched YET - so only time will tell ] . I would say that eveyone should relax and just wait until the 15th to see what happens .
--- DGP ---
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: shanafan on November 13, 2002, 02:09:00 PM
I am beta tester too and I haven't been able to connect since Nov 11. I have been enjoying it since September
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: Sarkoon on November 13, 2002, 02:32:00 PM
Ok, It is NOT a server issue. Nor coincedence.. I did repeated tests. Here are my findings:

Starting at Noon today on a NEVER BEEN MODDED Xbox.

12pm - Xbox LIVE retail version WORKING on the new retail servers. (didn't try the beta disc)

12:30pm today - flashed Matrix modchip with EvoX2.5 color bios, installed. Works. (see orange/red Xbox logo)

12:45pm - Launch MotoGP Online Demo Retail disc. Select my username, long pause, "Your Xbox console cannot connect to Xbox Live".

12:50pm - Removed Matrix completely, launch same MotoGP disc, Xbox Live WORKS.

1:00pm - Install Matrix, set to "Swap Mode". Launch MotoGP retail disc, "Your Xbox console cannot connect to Xbox Live". Hit Eject, push tray back in, launch MotoGP, and I get in!

This cannot be a coincidence!!!!


P.S. The connection test in the dashboard works. Says Connected regardless of bios mod.

-Sarkoon
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: genomods on November 13, 2002, 02:36:00 PM
If it is modchip detection why is that people with new systems that have never been modded are having problems as well. Some can get on and some cant. Also people with modded systems, some can get on and some cant. Check xbox.com beta forum. A lot of people are having problems, both with modded and non-modded systems.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: Sarkoon on November 13, 2002, 02:40:00 PM

Not sure about everyone elses problem.. For all we know they can all be newbies with router/firewall problems. Perhaps xbox live also detects tampering with the hard drive and is causing problems for all those who installed Evox on it. So many possibilities.

But what i do know for sure is that the color of the little LEDs on my Matrix chip is completely in sync with my (in)ability to successfully login to Xbox Live. Red = Can Login, Green = "Your Xbox cannot connect to Xbox Live"

-Sarkoon
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: genomods on November 13, 2002, 02:43:00 PM
Well we had problems yesterday and some today but not as bad.  Our modded Evo 2.5 TSOP system can connect and we can play NFL 2K3, NFL Fever and NBA 2K3.  Same with our unmodded new system.  MotoGP is not working with either.  We are using beta and not retail live cd.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: Azadar on November 13, 2002, 02:44:00 PM
Silly goose here is the answer

Try using a NEW XBOX MODDED or NOT and you will get connected at least temporary. Use an OLDER XBOX that was modded that worked before the 11th and ot wont work now. MS has temporarly blocked RETAIL clients and some Betas from boggin down the server before the real deal is ready. Come friday Modded and Unmodded will be online and playing.

Azadar

I know NOTHING
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: stealth on November 13, 2002, 02:52:00 PM
Argument: Both modded and non-modded boxes are having trouble

I think it is important to note that I have not seen a report that ANYONE has been able to connect with a modchip enabled (In the US).  It is likely that yes there are server problems and people with non-modded boxes are having issues connecting because of that.  But that is most likely a red herring as NOONE can connect with a modded xbox (mod enabled).

I think there have been plenty of tests done where an xbox can connect with modchip turned off but can't when the modchip is enabled.  Very repeatably too.

The only interesting thing is that some people with modchips cannot connect even when they disable their modchips.  Even when they are booting from a yboxdash with the original hard drive.  Though it may just be server issues preventing people from connecting when they have the modchips disabled.

Unfortunately due to the server ups and downs this is a very confusing time to sort these problems out.

I do believe, however, that there has been enough proof showing that they are detecting modchips.

Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: lucasz on November 13, 2002, 02:54:00 PM
Never mind.  Found the link at the very bottom right of the home page.  Would be easier to see in the menu at the top.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: genomods on November 13, 2002, 03:01:00 PM
Well that's funny because our modded system is connecting and someone is playing NFL 2K3 right now.  As I said in my last post, only game that is not working is MotoGP for us.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: stealth on November 13, 2002, 03:02:00 PM
Nfl2k3 has never posed any problem for modded/unmodded boxes.

Only motogp / whacked have had consistent issues.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: genomods on November 13, 2002, 03:06:00 PM
Well your last post you just stated that noone has been able to connect with a modded system or mod enabled.   Or you have seen no posts of anyone getting on when we just stated we have.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: M3_DeL on November 13, 2002, 03:21:00 PM
Ok let me step in here and just say........hold your horses folks!!!!! At this point no one can know if modded boxes are getting blocked. Why??? cause some people with modded boxes are having problems and some aren't. Same with unmodded boxes....so just wait and don't make outrageous claims one way or the other......NO ONE KNOWS Except M$ that is a fact, like it or not. so no more posts say "it does/doesn't detect modchips I have proof!!!" Cause you don't



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Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: Fuzzy on November 13, 2002, 06:24:00 PM
thats not true IT IS A BIOS CHECK FOR NOW THAT IS ALL the new disks arent suposed to work yet and if you have matrix it only works (when the servers arent spasaming) when you put in a real game then take it out, the evox dasboard link wont help So go out there and start playing live (if you got a matrix hehe)
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: mek334 on November 13, 2002, 07:46:00 PM
M3_DeL,if u read previous 20 posts ALL people with mods have problems with live.
I still dont have live but i will get it next week.
If u think that i will risk  and use it with my moded xbox you are wrong.
If you are saying that M$ does not detect our xbox why you dont try it yourself to see if its true or not?


Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on November 13, 2002, 07:57:00 PM
Dude...everyone shut the fuck up...wait a few days...shit...get an OP in here to close this...don't bitch and moan untill the service is FULLY OUT AND OPERATIONAL..shit...i dont care if some people conducted tests and shit...THATS GREAT! BUT WHY THE FUCK WOULD IT MATTER IF IT IS W/ MODDED SYSTEMS>?!??!?! WHAT THE HELL ARE WE GONNA DO BOUT IT RIGHT NOW?!?!?! Sorry...just a little pissed...:-)
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: brywalker on November 13, 2002, 08:13:00 PM
I am torn.

5 systems:

1) TSOP EVOX2.5 evoxdash 120GB. XBox Live not found.
2) TSOP EVOX2.5 evoxdash 120GB. XBox Live not found.
3) TSOP EVOX2.5 evoxdash  80GB. Connected to XBox Live, connectivity problems.
4) TSOP Complex Orig. HDD. Connected to XBox Live, no problems at all.
5) Retail Non Modded. Connected to XBox Live, no problems at all.

Yeah, it has to be something where they are blocking serials of ppl that have been in beta for a while to reduce server load until Friday.

Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: NaughtyNu on November 13, 2002, 08:25:00 PM
Just a reminder from something I discovered in beta with my modded box:

Everytime I put in my EvoX cd (because of Live I made the origanal MS dash the xboxdash.xbe file and leaving it as that, just using EvoX on a cdrw now) my Xbox's IP gets buggered to, you guessed it, the IP that I have in the config file (192.168.0.2) so I can connect to the box from my PC.

After using said EvoX, I go load up something and it cannot connect.  From here, go back to the MS Dashboard the Live settings, IP settings and it's been changed from Automatic to 192.168.02.  Hmm, no wonder it can't connect, that's the IP addy for internal stuff.  Change that back to automatic and let it find the network again and all is good.

Then I go back to the game, and all is good.  I haven't tried a Live game for a week though however because I knew of the transition the network would be taking, that and I'm bored with MotoGP and want to play hockey.

Maybe tommorow (14th) I'll try the final retail Live disc they;ve sent me and try to connect and report my findings.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: MajestacaL on November 13, 2002, 09:49:00 PM
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Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: upstatenyguy22 on November 14, 2002, 06:27:00 AM
QUOTE (lucasz @ Nov 13 2002, 09:50 PM)
I'll bring home a plain old hub tomorrow and get a network capture of the login and post it on here if I can't discover anything myself. If someone could get a network capture of a successful login and a failed one using the same account, that would be awesome for analysis. If someone has a regular hub (Not a switch) and two Xboxes using the same account (One connects, the other doesn’t) and you are willing to help, just ask for assistance in capturing the network traffic.

                                    My retail kit connects fine (I'm one of 3 people that didn't get in on the beta).  I just set up my account last night with my matrix disabled.  Like others have posted, I can put in a live disk with the matrix turned on and get the "could not connect to live" message, but the dash connects fine.  I take out the disk and put it back in to disabled the matrix (mode 3), and hit connect again, and connect with no problem.  I did this about 5 times in a row to verify last night.

Unfortunately, I only had a switch at home, too, so I couldn't get a capture of this either - even though that was my first inclination.  I'm looking to try again tonight with a capture of what each looks like - works (no matrix) and does not work (with matrix), but I was just wondering what kind of luck you had last night, too.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: thebeagle on November 14, 2002, 06:51:00 AM
if i take my messiah chip out of my xbox, i will b able to connect to live??? i use to be able to connect in the dashboard but now i cant connect to games or the dash
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: M3_DeL on November 16, 2002, 01:39:00 AM
QUOTE (mek334 @ Nov 13 2002, 06:46 PM)
M3_DeL,if u read previous 20 posts ALL people with mods have problems with live.
I still dont have live but i will get it next week.
If u think that i will risk  and use it with my moded xbox you are wrong.
If you are saying that M$ does not detect our xbox why you dont try it yourself to see if its true or not?

                                    Did you not read what I wrote?????? I said no one knows either way!!!!!!!!!
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: opjose on November 16, 2002, 02:06:00 AM
QUOTE (M3_DeL @ Nov 16 2002, 08:39 AM)
QUOTE (mek334 @ Nov 13 2002, 06:46 PM)
M3_DeL,if u read previous 20 posts ALL people with mods have problems with live.
I still dont have live but i will get it next week.
If u think that i will risk  and use it with my moded xbox you are wrong.
If you are saying that M$ does not detect our xbox why you dont try it yourself to see if its true or not?

Did you not read what I wrote?????? I said no one knows either way!!!!!!!!!

                                    Eh, go to my pinned topic.

Quite a bit -IS- known at this point.
Title: Xbox Live Is Not Detecting Modchips
Post by: M3_DeL on November 16, 2002, 11:24:00 AM
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