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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Shadow_Ryo on November 09, 2004, 01:47:00 AM
WARNING: This reviewish thing is kinda harsh, please only read if you want to know my opinion.

Ok first off I want to tell you I'm not totally I love with, nor am I totaly against
Halo, I'm netural I like it alot and play it, but I would have a stroke over it.
(Oh and I won't tell any story spoilers).

Man I played Halo 2 tonight or I guess this morning, and well the multi-player was pretty good, it was like Halo 1 but with little additions (that I'm sure most of you guys know about) but it was really fun for about the first couple of hours, but will be great for link-ups.

Now Single player wasn't that great at all, actually it was awful, the voices sounded weird and the story really didn't have much to do with what they have been advetising, and it takes a second to draw the bump-mapping. the graphics were about the same (more polies in levels, less in players), but the bump-mapping for me didn't really make it look THAT good, and the level were about 4 times longer like bungie but 3 times more stretched out and take 2 times the time to load. But I think that the over-hype is much to blame for some of the downfalls.

To sum it up multiplayer was good but not much is new (most of the stuff you can get in H1 with PC, CXE, NMP) mostly like a finished Halo 1, but is still very great fun. Single (I thought) was very lame, seemed... I dunno... kinda thrown together. But it is still a pretty good story, and continues the saga with our hero Master Chief.

In the end the ups prolly will outnumer the downs.
But anyways its still a pretty good game, if you like the 1st be very sure to get your self a copy!

I still think it's a good game, just doesn't live up hype (which is almost impossible for a game to do, look at bute force)
MC is still cool.
I'm just saying this is what "I" thought of the game you (and others) may have a completly diffrent opinion, I may have been a little harsh, but these are all the low points I VERY sure the good points like multiplaye will cover up these problems!

I'm not tring to hurt anyones feelings or Halo pride.

PS: plz go easy on me

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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: broadd on November 09, 2004, 07:30:00 AM
I agree.  <
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: nikeskateboarding.net on November 09, 2004, 07:42:00 AM
As I have already said, HALO 2 does suck, personally any first person shooter on a console is bound to bite, Multiplayer is a bit amusing but XL will carry the weight, I mean all you do in the game is walk around and shoot at the same aliens and enemys, I do agree that Bungie could have done a lot better, Basically Halo 2 is any FPS with a bunch of disco lights and neon colors from batman forever with purple glow sticks. Hence Halo should be renounced Gaylo
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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: phokus on November 09, 2004, 07:53:00 AM
I agree also, while I really enjoy the multi-player part of the game I am really disappointed by the story line. I will mainly stick to the multi-player myself as you can see the work really has gone in to developing some of the maps. I do however get the feeling that some of the multi-player maps had no time spent on them at all.

I have also discovered that Juggernaut is alot more fun this time around, I hadn't touched it too much on Halo1, but I am really enjoying it at the moment. Ninjanaut is really fun with a couple of mates. With unlimited ammo enabled, a rocket launcher and energy sword is a deadly combination.

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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: 3dfx on November 09, 2004, 09:42:00 AM
Ok, no offence but Halo 2 has top notch sound and voice acting all in 5.1 and tbh you are talking out of your ass when it comes to loading times as apart from the initial load you get halfway through the campaign with no load times just the odd one that lasts less than a second.

and please proof read before you post in future  dry.gif
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: adeelmysore on November 09, 2004, 12:21:00 PM
I played it its a cool game but I think its way toooo short!!  <
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Shadow_Ryo on November 09, 2004, 01:30:00 PM
I not saying the acting was bad, It's just Cortana and MC sound wierd some times
like at a part with the bomb he doesn't sound like MC,
and by load I meant each level sperately (Otherwise the levels preload)
and no ATV's

Keep in mind this is MY opinion, you don't have to listen, you many have a totally diffrent  view on it, everybody's diffrent.

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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 10, 2004, 12:17:00 AM
i was in line at midnight with everyone else and I got to say... campaign to fun if you liked the first one...though the story is messed up in my opinion.  But XBL is what makes this game stand out.. no system link or splitscreen can show how great this game is in multiplayer than xbl.  <
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Renthal on November 10, 2004, 11:08:00 AM
You are aware system link multiplayer is nearly identical to xbl multiplayer I hope. The only difference might be rankings and other misc. small stuff.  <
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: inuyasha44720 on November 10, 2004, 12:33:00 PM
Halo 2 does suck.  I played the first Halo at least once a week with friends and this game , to me, is not nearly as good as the first.  The grapics are awesome but that is about it.  The single player is terrible.  It's so boring and repeative and the multiplayer isn't fun either.  I thought this game was going to be absolutely amazing, shit, I stood out in the cold at midnight to get it.  I'm just sad that it could'nt live up to the fun of the original unsure.gif
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: _SCaRfaCe on November 10, 2004, 01:47:00 PM
QUOTE (nikeskateboarding.net @ Nov 9 2004, 03:34 PM)
As I have already said, HALO 2 does suck, personally any first person shooter on a console is bound to bite, Multiplayer is a bit amusing but XL will carry the weight, I mean all you do in the game is walk around and shoot at the same aliens and enemys, I do agree that Bungie could have done a lot better, Basically Halo 2 is any FPS with a bunch of disco lights and neon colors from batman forever with purple glow sticks. Hence Halo should be renounced Gaylo

lmao

that's easily the best analogy i've heard.

ok, regarding halo 2, i wanna go pick up the collectors edition (+ the new crystal xbox).  anyway, my question is does it support hdtv resolution (720p or 1080i)?  widscreen?  480p?

u gotta give it production quality though.  especially the musical score of the game.  the one song that comes to mind is the main title song from Halo 1, sounds somewhat like Vangellis?  anyway, i swear that fucking shit gives me goosebumps.  it sounds so angelic.  really sets the atmosphere/mood.  <
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: gsgleason on November 10, 2004, 08:02:00 PM
I thought that bungie would make a great title that was halo 2, being that the first was so marvelous.

I was wrong.  

I can't believe it took them so long to come out with this.  Seriously, it only takes me a couple minutes to produce a pile of shit.  It took them several years.  wtf?

The view is terrible.  It's like they took halo and zoomed it in 50%.   It makes close combat a lot harder to deal with, and it feels like you're running around with blinders.

Grenades are all of a sudden a lot heavier for some reason, and the kickback on the SMG is retarded.   Master chief is a super cyborg who can flip over a tank, for craps sake, I think he can handle a SMG without shootng the ceiling.  

Oh, and there's the ranged reticle red thing.  Now, your reticle will only turn red if it's within the pre-designated range for the weapon you're holding AND it's current zoom setting.  stupid.

oh, speaking of zoom, first click zoom on snipers = 5x = stupid.

The weapons are horribly mispowered.  When someone with an SMG 50 feet awat can kill me before I can get the 6 face bursts required to kill someone with the battle rifle, something's wrong.  And, instead of just making the rocket less strong, they make it slower to shoot and slower in general and give it a bunch of error in it's path.  

The banshee is worthless.

Dual weilding is stupid.  With the right combo, you can kill someone before they can even turn to see their attacker.  Lame.

blah blah blah.  

I don't understand why development teams totally change the engine of a game that's so popular.  This game feels like a chap rip-off of unreal tournament only without the coolness.

Halo2 = C-

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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: overdrive on November 11, 2004, 04:00:00 AM
QUOTE (_SCaRfaCe @ Nov 10 2004, 09:39 PM)


u gotta give it production quality though.  especially the musical score of the game.  the one song that comes to mind is the main title song from Halo 1, sounds somewhat like Vangellis?  anyway, i swear that fucking shit gives me goosebumps.  it sounds so angelic.  really sets the atmosphere/mood.

I totaly agree with you there Scarface. listening to the game on my 5.1 in the living room for the first time blew me away off the bat.  I mean, I'm a recording engineer and after listening to it all, WOW.  They definately put some time into the soundtrack and score.

Now for the rest of the game....  I won't even go there.  I posted my thoughts in the other thread.  <
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: nikeskateboarding.net on November 11, 2004, 06:40:00 AM
I have to say, everyone that posts in here can agree the game was overhyped, I do find myself still playing xbox live on it getting waxed by 12 yr olds but its great, single player is crap and the soundtrack is amazing, though, it still bewilders me how some game magazines rate this game so high, maybe they are on m$ payroll ? who knows, they are def more about gaming then any of us to an extent I imagine but I cannot say for sure, any how broken down here is my review after playing the game for some time..


Graphics (6.5)- Somewhat blocky characters and studio 51 flameboy colors that make you want to puke. Could of been better for all the delays

Sound (9.5)- Not much to say here other than it is very well produced

Replay Single Player (-.15915) - Ha single player YEAH RIGHT !! Any halofanboy will either admit it or deny it and know in the back of their peebrained mind that this is horrible !!! ABSOLUTLY DISAPPOINTING... I get more amuzement scratching my balls.

Replay Multiplayer - (8.5) This is very entertaining on xbox live, runs hella smooth and multiplayer is very easy to join


Overall = 6.16

Do the math it works smile.gif
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: lord_jeebuz on November 11, 2004, 08:34:00 AM
Its a new game, who plyed half-life more than a few times. i played CS to death a few times over. every one knows at the end of the day you will be playing multi player h2 more and more. yeah the story needed more ( i dont know what ) and if YOU can tell me any ideas on how you would have made the h2 better without being h1 (but just different levels) please fell free. XBOX is not for little kids but it sounds like everyone has made such a big F****g deal about the fact that what they thought the game would be like, and what the game is like are different. remember game developers are there for years making good games. i thought h2 would be a great multi player game that my girlfriend could play with me rather than finding a decent place with good players. ( doesnt h2 have that new thing with online that puts people of similar skill level together rather than BUNNY EGO SMASHING) its new, live with it, your the one that made it a dissapointment. if you think its a dissapointment make me something even better. in 6 months you will probably have h1 sitting on your drive not played for a while and you will go play it and reminisce that it was straight forward and reasonably easy. it was new you probly got h1 with your console. you probably thought it wasnt that great but then as you played more and more (like me) you grew to love it, it will be the same for h2 ( that is unless you make a better game in the meantime ). lets see what the reviews for half life 2 are in a week. i bet everyone will say oh the game is crap its not like the first..... blah blah blah. come on we are adults with penis envy. the fact we didnt make the game and the fact it is a SEQUEL. have you ever seen a sequel you liked as much as the first movie, the only one i can say yes to is the alien series (except ressurection, it was good, but not alien 2). YOU WILL BE AN ADDICT IN A FEW MONTHS, ADMIT IT. CHEERS  <
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: nikeskateboarding.net on November 11, 2004, 07:58:00 AM
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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: cap269 on November 11, 2004, 05:34:00 PM
I too was disappointed in the game, overall. After watching the teasers and E3 movies for months, I was looking forward to being blown away by the technological masterpiece that Halo 2 was touted to be. I didn't fall into the hype trap, no, I was expecting more on the technical level. The only things about the game that I found exceptional were the environmental sound effects and Marty O'Donnell's musical score. He's a genius. The graphics, they were choppy, low-res images all the sudden popping into high-res when you get close to them, that's gay. Jagged edges on everything when you're zoomed in - ridiculous. The first game was just soooo smooth, graphics-wise. I would have rather H2 used the same quality of graphics in H1 than what they did here. The "improvements" they made don't quite seem to offset the flaws enough for my liking. One thing I miss is the health bar, especially in multiplayer. I used to gauge how "healthy" I was when I was attacking, so that if I was fairly evenly matched with a foe, I could break off my attack and take cover before I died. The new shields/health thing sucks, IMO, plus, I don't like it at the bottom over the gaydar. I don't like the new menu system. I find it clumsy and awkward. The H1 menus were so straightforward and simple. I do like being able to adjust controller settings inside the match though. That is a nice improvement. In single-player mode, I don't like how you switch sides during the game. The story could have been told (better) differently if you played the campaign through once as one side, and then again as the other side, similar to how Star Wars: Battlefront does it. It was difficult for me to be in the mindframe of the main character in one storyline and then all of the sudden, cutscene, and now I am a different player and have to take a few seconds to rewind the story in my head, remember my objectives, what weapons I'm holding, where I'm at on the map, etc.

I could go on, but this is getting long enough. Bottom line, I did like the game, but it didn't live up to my expectations of a game that's been in dev for three years. Sorry, but I have to give this a 7/10.

(BTW, for the post that mentioned how MC and Cortana's voice sounded different when they were in the bomb area, that's supposed to sound that way. It is because they are out in SPACE, not inside the ship.)
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 11, 2004, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE (nikeskateboarding.net @ Nov 11 2004, 12:01 PM)
no half-life 2 will own halo 2 because it doesnt have gay colors that make you dizzy, no cheers for you  dry.gif

wow... I feel sorry for you.  you're so narrow minded that you're missing out on some great games.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: nikeskateboarding.net on November 12, 2004, 05:51:00 AM
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wow... I feel sorry for you. you're so narrow minded that you're missing out on some great games.



No i'm not narrow minded obviously if i am taking time to review the game you will have to see that I have played it and do enjoy some aspects of it, for anyone that doesnt own a pc and/or doesnt enjoy pc gaming then this game is their savior, dudu man before you have this post put in the garabe bin like the other halo 2 post that was bashing this game, why dont you have an open mind and understand that i agree the fact that console gaming is fun without a question. if you look at my review you can see, but FACE REALITY !! First person shooters are typically very poor compared to the PC Gaming industry, consoles get there technology from PC's but the biggest kicker is that you can upgrade processors,graphic cards, etc.... So get a grip we understand the fact that your whinning is due to the fact the eagles lost so bad to the raiders 19+ years ago which is probably older than yourself
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: _SCaRfaCe on November 12, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
correct me if im wrong - and i know this is going towards pc platforming but who gives a shit nowadays with all the windows media centre pcs and whatnot - but why in the blue fuck doesn't no one consider having a precise aiming accessory (aka possible a mouse) available for a console.  there's no comparison between using a mouse to aim vs analog sticks.  hopefully ms or sony will improvise when their new consoles hit the street.  and the mouse wont have to be generic lookin... im sure they could add some eye candy.  picture a trackball for example with the trackball glowing green with an xbox logo somewhere on it?  i'd line up at midnight to buy that.  thats my 2 cents anyways.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 12, 2004, 02:29:00 PM
QUOTE (nikeskateboarding.net @ Nov 12 2004, 09:54 AM)


No i'm not narrow minded obviously if i am taking time to review the game you will have to see that I have played it and do enjoy some aspects of it, for anyone that doesnt own a pc and/or doesnt enjoy pc gaming then this game is their savior, dudu man before you have this post put in the garabe bin like the other halo 2 post that was bashing this game, why dont you have an open mind and understand that i agree the fact that console gaming is fun without a question. if you look at my review you can see, but FACE REALITY !! First person shooters are typically very poor compared to the PC Gaming industry, consoles get there technology from PC's but the biggest kicker is that you can upgrade processors,graphic cards, etc.... So get a grip we understand the fact that your whinning is due to the fact the eagles lost so bad to the raiders 19+ years ago which is probably older than yourself

wow... where do I start?

ok... maybe saying "narrow minded" was a bit harsh seeing you took so much offense to it.  But if you read your own review what else am I, and everyone else who reads it suppose to think.  I at least can say PC gaming is great, better than console?  thats a matter of opinion.  you say it's better because you can upgrade it?  once again... opinion.  some people still say the best games were on their 2600 way back when.  It really truley seems you went into this game wanting to not like it.  If I'm wrong I aplogize, no need to waste more of this thread with flames.

As for the other threads bashing this game... guess who put them in the garbage.. I did.  They weren't reviews.  saying "HALo fuckin sucks 0/10" is not a review and obviously will cause a debate.  You talk as if I make myself to be all high and mighty.  I'm not.  I have a life.  I check this site for 5 minutes at night to do the moderating job that was assigned to me.

The fact that you brought up an eagle superbowl loss from 20 years ago is laughable.  It was unnesessary.  Am I offended?  hell no, like I said I thought it was funny you brought it up.  Why should I care about the past when I the present to keep me etertained every sunday.  was that superbowl older than I am?  nope... but I don't mind admitting I'm no more than a couple years older that it has been, I was old enough that I remember watching it with my father.  once again, why bring my age into question... it's just funny to read the same flame arguments over and over again.

I hope I haven't offended you in anyway... it was not my intention.  But take a second look at some console games you may have forgotten... technology isn't always key for greatness.


PS - Don't ever make me out to be some freakin kiddie who roams the forum looking for a flame... I'm barely on this site and spend less than an hour a day on a computer off work.  If there is anything I take offense to,  it's people trying to make other people out to be something they're not.  Now back on topic.  Flame Ends here....this is your ONLY warning.. if you want to reply to this it better be a mature post or if you can't help yourself, then PM me about it.


So halo 2....
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: jcupp114 on November 13, 2004, 05:26:00 AM
I think that bungie's crew made a great game Halo1. Then when M$ came into the picture and they took what was an awesome spin off for the future of Halo 2 (BUNGIE) and crapped all over HALO 2 as well as us, the consumer, all the 1.5 million of people who either preorder or bought Halo 2.
I believe that this is not the end of HALO 2 due to the annoucement that xbox live content will fuel the game's ongoing levels of play. Yet, I deeply sad for the Halo 2. What a wait for an ordinary game!!!
__________The gameplay was not there M$ / BUNGIE.____________
Who ever is the responsible party for the game play failed!
Go back to the drawing boards people, maybe this time lock the door behind you and leave the "strong arms" out! You just might get some work done!

Take care

jcupp114

P.S. Could I atleast get 25.00 back off the price for an 8 hour run through of HALO2 M$? Only seems fair.



Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Master-Chief on November 13, 2004, 05:47:00 PM
QUOTE (nikeskateboarding.net @ Nov 11 2004, 09:43 AM)
I have to say, everyone that posts in here can agree the game was overhyped, I do find myself still playing xbox live on it getting waxed by 12 yr olds but its great, single player is crap and the soundtrack is amazing, though, it still bewilders me how some game magazines rate this game so high, maybe they are on m$ payroll ? who knows, they are def more about gaming then any of us to an extent I imagine but I cannot say for sure, any how broken down here is my review after playing the game for some time..


Graphics (6.5)- Somewhat blocky characters and studio 51 flameboy colors that make you want to puke. Could of been better for all the delays

Sound (9.5)- Not much to say here other than it is very well produced

Replay Single Player (-.15915) - Ha single player YEAH RIGHT !! Any halofanboy will either admit it or deny it and know in the back of their peebrained mind that this is horrible !!! ABSOLUTLY DISAPPOINTING... I get more amuzement scratching my balls.

Replay Multiplayer - (8.5) This is very entertaining on xbox live, runs hella smooth and multiplayer is very easy to join


Overall = 6.16

Do the math it works smile.gif

You are really on crack. To give a game like Halo 2 a 6.5 in graphics you must have had a real life perspective of the game in your head and you have too high of expectations to be giving Halo 2 a 6.5 on graphics. Everything in the game is made up and it's made up well with good graphics. What kind of crack are you on?  dry.gif
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: gamefreakgcb on November 13, 2004, 11:59:00 PM
QUOTE (Shadow_Ryo @ Nov 9 2004, 04:22 PM)
I not saying the acting was bad, It's just Cortana and MC sound wierd some times
like at a part with the bomb he doesn't sound like MC,
and by load I meant each level sperately (Otherwise the levels preload)
and no ATV's

Keep in mind this is MY opinion, you don't have to listen, you many have a totally diffrent  view on it, everybody's diffrent.

He was in space. Hes supposed to sound wierd. Notice that when you walk into space in the first level, your voices and gun effects and many other sounds get muffled. A very cool thing Bungie was able to do. Also graphics are top-notch. This game handles Rag Doll Physics unlike any game I've played before. Also normal mappin according to many many reviewers out there is a tought beast to tame and Bungie also did an excellent job with this. The cinematics have a tought time in the beginning because its all on the Game Engine and it is really stressing the XBox to its limits that is why there is an abrupt sort of loading of particles as the scened play. And loading times are non-existant as the game does the loading under the guise of cut-scenes. If you actually took your time to play the game beyond the first level, you'll notice that you can make it to the middle of the game(where I am now) with no load screens except for the first one. Just some corrections as the OP seems to have played the first level only. This is not a flame. Please respond back with rational comments. Halo 2 did disappoint many but remember there is still XBox Live Downloadble content on the way. A link I found while browsing on XS. Click me, Im a link
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: ORGANIC_PEPSI on November 14, 2004, 12:51:00 AM
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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: lowsodium on November 15, 2004, 10:40:00 AM
Hopefully not already mentioned, but the Multiplayer Fucking Sux!!!! What kind of dumb ass set up the Multiplayer engine so poorly.  Annoying as hell that after every game you have to wait to rejoin a game.   Just when you are getting warmed up and into the game, you have to wait a few minutes for everyone to reassemble for a new game.  Talking about Big Battle, not sure about smaller 4on4 games.  But this is so lame, I sold my copy back to Gamestop.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: nikeskateboarding.net on November 15, 2004, 11:37:00 AM
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You are really on crack. To give a game like Halo 2 a 6.5 in graphics you must have had a real life perspective of the game in your head and you have too high of expectations to be giving Halo 2 a 6.5 on graphics. Everything in the game is made up and it's made up well with good graphics. What kind of crack are you on? 


Coming from someone who's name is master cheif i'm not impressed, try using something more creative, for instance, instead of crack, use crystal methamphetamines or maybe on acid mixed with free base, words like these will draw more conclusion to the point your trying to make. Also like everyone else in this thread we were all under the impression halo 2 was real, and would include such gaming enhancements as smell-o-vision with neuron inhibitors ? what happend?!? high expectations, never !! only that everyone waited 2 years for a game how could i get higher expectations... Flame on little solder flame on...  dry.gif
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: DoCnUpe on November 16, 2004, 07:01:00 AM
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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: meth2cal on November 17, 2004, 12:20:00 AM
holy cow XBL sucks
i dont care if your in a 16 player party or a 6 player party
gernades disappear, maps shift suddenly, you kill someone but get no credit
and its laggy and glitchy to the fucking max
MS charges for these subscriptions?
its like paying my light bill nad have the fucking lights flicker constantly
they are ripping gamers off and making them take it up the ass in the name of capitalism on XBL
i was and still am pissed because i thought i could handle a little lag but the amount of shit i had to put up with for hte past couple of days is horseshit
i even lost sound because it couldnt process a dam fucking thing.  i couldnt respawn for about 20 seconds becaues the stupid xbox or XBL servers didnt know what hte fuck was going on
in all honesty fuck halo2 and fuck xbl ..........rip off big time
they can take their lag and go fuck themselves up the booty hole
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: socrates on November 17, 2004, 01:30:00 PM
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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: P@nz3R on November 17, 2004, 01:57:00 PM
QUOTE (socrates @ Nov 17 2004, 10:33 PM)
Ya i agree, halo 2 was hyped halo 1 was much better and had that "feel: to it, this one just feels like all the other fps games.....oh well atleast i can still play halo 1 smile.gif

that was perfectly put.    Halo 1 had Perfect controls.  COMPLETELY natural feel.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: esc1 on November 17, 2004, 01:59:00 PM
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Seriously 90% of all you haters don't like it because it wasn't your vision.  Too freggin bad.  Have fun bitching.   jester.gif
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Musashi on November 17, 2004, 09:38:00 PM
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btw I love this fukin game!! biggrin.gif
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Rustmonkey on November 18, 2004, 12:43:00 AM
Good game

*slaps somebody on the butt*


Honestly liked the game... interesting story-line... a little sketchy but the ending and all the crap kinda keep it going... other than that, multiplayer is better than Halo 1... and sound/graphics kick ass....

overall, its a pretty kickass game.

Title: About Halo 2
Post by: mattyj25 on November 20, 2004, 05:34:00 PM
You know what, after playing it more, I am liking it alot more.  Score now is 9.5.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: K98 on November 20, 2004, 09:26:00 PM
QUOTE
it was awful, the voices sounded weird and the story really didn't have much to do with what they have been advetising,


They didnt advertise a story if i remember correctly it was kept pretty secret.

QUOTE
It's so boring and repeative and the multiplayer isn't fun either


Like i said put it on legendary and see how long you last just running around like a moron. The AI is so much more realistic. They attack in numbers, hide to heal, and marines actually help more. The enemies just dont stand there to let you shoot them.

QUOTE
Grenades are all of a sudden a lot heavier for some reason, and the kickback on the SMG is retarded. Master chief is a super cyborg who can flip over a tank, for craps sake, I think he can handle a SMG without shootng the ceiling.


I can see your a fool and just want the game to be easier. Its called a trade off do you want close firepower or long range, or even mid range. I doubt you'd understand that though sorry.

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SMG 50 feet awat can kill me before I can get the 6 face bursts required to kill someone with the battle rifle, something's wrong


SMGs are supposed to be powerful in close ranges and like 50 feet is pretty damn close.

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Dual weilding is stupid. With the right combo, you can kill someone before they can even turn to see their attacker. Lame.


Don't use it.


I went through and most complaints are just stupid ass moans of people who look like they played halo 2 for like 10 minutes.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 21, 2004, 01:04:00 AM
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I went through and most complaints are just stupid ass moans of people who look like they played halo 2 for like 10 minutes.


*applause*

thank you for putting it they way we wanted to hear it.

The people who play this game for less than one hour can be considered narrow minded.  Now before I get flamed once again, hear me out.  It's fine if you don't enjoy something right off the bat, and it is your choice whether you want to continue with it and see if it has potential or let it sit on the shelf.  However, don't go preaching how bad the game is because of that, nor should you compare it to the god-like status of the original halo.  I can't believe any of them can get through a book with that attitude.  99% of all books start out slow to set the grounds of the story... same for movies and you guessed it...video games.  But out of the 3 categories, you can actually have some fun while they build the story for you in video games.  I'm I'm not just talking about story, it also uses the first two levels to let you get use to the new controls and interface.  Now...to me... those who make a hardcore decision after a few minutes of gameplay are narrow minded because they don't want to see it any other way.

I too, like everyone else, was dissappointed at first when I played the first level, by the third or fourth level I was hooked.  I say 100% that this game is better than the first halo.

And to reply to whoever said about the lag issue on live.  I use to use xbconnect and then I decided to try the 2 month free of live.  I've been paying for it ever since and for this game.  you have got to be kidding me about the lag.  I cannot hold more than 6 players usual in one of my rooms in any other game without complaints of lag but halo 2 (excuse me for not knowing the technical part of it) "shares" the connection between all the players.  Which means I hold 16 people every night... no problem.  Now, yes... once in awhile you find a room with about 3 people that have horrible connections and it will be laggy, but according to the ones I've experienced, and comparing to the amount of games I'm played on live since halo 2 launch (bungie.net does a great job at keeping track of everyone's stats without the need of signing up for anything) I'd say less than... yes, LESS THAN 1% of the games I have played have lagged out, or been noticebly laggy for more than a couple seconds.  As for the changing of maps and all.. never experienced it, and I have played ALOT of games since launch, and I usually don't get hooked on game like this one.  I'm tired of people who think they know xbox live when they only use xbconnect (and I'm not talking about the person who I was replying to).  I have had discussions in this forum and in others here on xbox-scene and most people think that xbconnect is just as good as xbox live.  If anyone of you just try xbox live (with an open mind of course) most of you will agree.  and the price tag is not bad at all.

Anyway, I have fun on halo 2...... or for you PC fans who think fps should only be on pc... have fun with half life 2... and for the rest of you.... i'm sure you'll find something that suites you.  But please, don't bash such a well made game, even if you hate it...sound, graphics, level design... amazing when compared to what else is offered on xbox... scratch that... amazing in general.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Foe-hammer on November 21, 2004, 04:30:00 AM
QUOTE (DuDeR MaN @ Nov 21 2004, 10:07 AM)
I say 100% that this game is better than the first halo.


DuDeR MaN,
I respect your opinion, and it holds a lot of weight considering your love for the first halo is right on par with mine.  I have not made up my mind if i like Halo 2 better then the first; i have beat it once only on Heroic, and played a good amount of MP.  The two things that bother me the most is the actual real-estate in halo 2's levels seem to be much smaller then halo 1's, and the levels are a lot more linear.  The other is the outside environments looks less impressive; less detailed textures up close, and everything is overly grey.  Oh, and what's up with the damn flashlight in halo 2 shutting off in the campaign after only 5 secs in most areas; things look so much better when your able to shed some light on it.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 21, 2004, 01:56:00 PM
the flashlight is odd in this game because it will constantly stay on it the REALLY dark levels later in the game but will shut off if there is any visible light around you.  It has it's own battery saver and I'll admit I don't like it.  As for the worlds being greyer.  You're right but there are still some fantasic views, the levels are more dense will trees and shrubs which block light.  The light in this game is really well done in my opinion.


Also, the biggest problem I have with this game is the restrictions with invisible walls.  in the first game you could say..."i want to get up to the really high ledge".  and if you were able to pull it off somehow, you could go there.  But no there are invisible walls and I am disappointed.  And I don't even know if warthog launching is possible anymore with the new physics engine, anyone try it yet?  and finally I also dislike that the bansee can no longer hover.  It's alot harder to control when it's almost always constantly falling.  I can see why they do it for multiplayer, but they should keep the hover feature in single player at least.  Oh I I almost forgot that the texture loading can be annoying at times but is barely noticeble and doesn't ruin the gameplay at all.


and those are basically the only problems I have encountered... all minor.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Musashi on November 21, 2004, 08:49:00 PM
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I also dislike that the bansee can no longer hover. It's alot harder to control when it's almost always constantly falling. I can see why they do it for multiplayer, but they should keep the hover feature in single player at least.


They only changed the way hovering worked. On Halo (1) you had to hold the left thumbstick backwards to "fly" backwards or "hover". On Halo 2, to "hover" you only need to quit using the left thumbstick at-all, this will bring you to a very low speed, which is similar to Halo (1)'s but instead of going backwards it moves forward.

I hope this may be of help wink.gif .

PS: Halo 2 rruulleess!!!!!
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: southbark on November 22, 2004, 09:20:00 PM
QUOTE (ernld @ Nov 22 2004, 04:38 PM)
Im glad to see that a lot of people share my opinion.

To be honest i think they've ruined the original, like when a really good film is spoiled by the sequel.

I cant beleive its taken them so long, and essentially all theyve done is cheapen the feel of the game, they've concentrated too much on xbox live and in doing so they've given it the messy, buggy feel of an online pc game.

Personally i cant see anything wrong with the single player story, but they've done nothing to make it more exciting or interesting than the original single player.
The levels are way too long and it inevitably gets dull and repetative.

All theyve done is:
1.) Added a few new (not very exciting) weapons
2.) Added a few new enemies
3.) Made the old vehicles drivable
4.) Touched up the graphics slightly, the chief is the only really noticable improvment but he 's supposed to be a hardened war hero and as such shouldnt be so fucking shiny. Also this makes him stand out from the rest of the graphics which surprisingly enough isnt shiny.
5.)Tweaked the AI, I think the elites are easier to kill now and arent as much of a threat which takes away the element of danger and stuggling to survive which everyone enjoyed so much in the first game.
6.) Dual weilding, a good idea but it maybe doesnt sit right in halo. This has been executed better in other games.

Why have they taken so much out that we heard about during the ridiculous period of hype over the last few years.
Link up Co-op is something that people have have been asking for since the announment of halo. All the different kinds of warthogs, they would have been so easy to put in, just a case of changing the models and the attributes of the existing warthogs. And what happened to the volumetric flamethrower that we heard so much about.

Having said all this, Halo 2 is still a really good game. It could never be anything but seen as its based on arguably the greatest game of all time, but it could, and should have been so, so much more and personally I will be choosing the original halo for my LAN partys.


Ive rambled on slightly, but im outraged at the quality of the game given all the hype they put on it and i needed to get it off my chest.

If you want a real step forward in the FPS genre then half life 2 is the game to play

Well it's your opinon i suppose,But i bet you don't remember all the people complaining of no live when halo was out all they did was give what "The masses" wanted an online multi player shooter,Even thougfh i think call of duty is better for that but thats my opinion.So the masses got what they wanted and M$ got the biggest selling console platform game ever,Whats funny is there is so much stock of halo2 i bet ya next year the price drops to 30 bucks or they include them in the xbox bundles
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: P@nz3R on November 25, 2004, 01:29:00 PM
QUOTE (southbark @ Nov 23 2004, 06:23 AM)
Well it's your opinon i suppose,But i bet you don't remember all the people complaining of no live when halo was out all they did was give what "The masses" wanted an online multi player shooter,Even thougfh i think call of duty is better for that but thats my opinion.So the masses got what they wanted and M$ got the biggest selling console platform game ever,Whats funny is there is so much stock of halo2 i bet ya next year the price drops to 30 bucks or they include them in the xbox bundles

Call of duty rocks!   biggrin.gif   totally agree with you there,   i do agree with the buggy feeling of H2 however.   i havn't played it in about 3 weeks now.  Half life 2...  godly.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Maverick0984 on November 26, 2004, 07:46:00 PM
QUOTE (gsgleason @ Nov 11 2004, 03:54 AM)
I thought that bungie would make a great title that was halo 2, being that the first was so marvelous.

I was wrong.  

I can't believe it took them so long to come out with this.  Seriously, it only takes me a couple minutes to produce a pile of shit.  It took them several years.  wtf?

The view is terrible.  It's like they took halo and zoomed it in 50%.   It makes close combat a lot harder to deal with, and it feels like you're running around with blinders.

Grenades are all of a sudden a lot heavier for some reason, and the kickback on the SMG is retarded.   Master chief is a super cyborg who can flip over a tank, for craps sake, I think he can handle a SMG without shootng the ceiling.  

Oh, and there's the ranged reticle red thing.  Now, your reticle will only turn red if it's within the pre-designated range for the weapon you're holding AND it's current zoom setting.  stupid.

oh, speaking of zoom, first click zoom on snipers = 5x = stupid.

The weapons are horribly mispowered.  When someone with an SMG 50 feet awat can kill me before I can get the 6 face bursts required to kill someone with the battle rifle, something's wrong.  And, instead of just making the rocket less strong, they make it slower to shoot and slower in general and give it a bunch of error in it's path.  

The banshee is worthless.

Dual weilding is stupid.  With the right combo, you can kill someone before they can even turn to see their attacker.  Lame.

blah blah blah.  

I don't understand why development teams totally change the engine of a game that's so popular.  This game feels like a chap rip-off of unreal tournament only without the coolness.

Halo2 = C-

say stupid enough?  what are you 12? 75% of your critisms have absoltuely no merrit.  you just call stuff stupid....no reason why.  that is your opinion, you can have it if you want i guess, but that was the most god awful review/sum up/whatever the hell it was, i've ever seen for any game.

you kids need to play on harder difficulties to experience this game, normal ain't gonna cut it.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Maverick0984 on November 26, 2004, 07:49:00 PM
QUOTE (ernld @ Nov 24 2004, 11:26 PM)


Only about 1 million people have xbox live, as opposed to over 15 million that have xboxes so the masses havent got what they want.
The majority of people cant afford or physically cant get broadband or a credit card to get xbox live and system link would have been simple to add into the game, they have it for multiplayer, why not co-op?

Also m$ only got those sales on the back of halo, i bet the sales will drop dramatically now that people have the chance to try it before the decide to buy a copy

the comment about the majority is just flat wrong, unless you live in some small as middle of nowhere country......broadband is cheaper than dialup with 4/5 providers....and it is available in more heavily populated areas....ie MORE PEOPLE.  

that means, that the MAJORITY has this access to broadband, not the MINORITY that doesn't have the services available.  i'm sorry but your statement is just flat uneducated and wrong.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: obietitch on November 28, 2004, 12:49:00 PM
sorry about the spelling error, in the bottom paragraph i meant you CAN complete it.

i spent 3hours 20mins on HALO 2, including ten mins of net play......

i completed it on hard,,,,,

which was a total put-off, (what's the point in playin through again when HARD was such a let down)

and the ten minutes of net play..... well .....

i soon turned off and went to rainbow 6 black arrow,

It was too easy, on a stealth game mode, just grab a sword, and on any other multiplayer game type grab 2 needlers.

too much power makes short work and repetative play.

So dish the dirt, chuck away the halo....

be a devil.............

you want a shooter, play ghost recon 2, black arrow,,,, or call of duty..........

much better multi-player.......and much much longer in campaign
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: ernld on November 29, 2004, 04:41:00 AM
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the comment about the majority is just flat wrong, unless you live in some small as middle of nowhere country......broadband is cheaper than dialup with 4/5 providers....and it is available in more heavily populated areas....ie MORE PEOPLE.

that means, that the MAJORITY has this access to broadband, not the MINORITY that doesn't have the services available. i'm sorry but your statement is just flat uneducated and wrong.


By majority of people, i meant people that cant get broadband or xbox live combined. The main problem with it is the credit card, even if you can get broadband without one, you still need it to sign up to xbox live. Access to broadband is very different to getting xbox live.
Also Id like to know which providers have broadband cheaper than dial up?!!?!
(Maybe your talking about america or canada, i live in britain)

The point is that only 1 in 15 people have xbox live,  why do they spend so much money time and effort into this small section of the community. Seems to break the first rule of business in my opinion. Go after the majority
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: DuDeR MaN on November 29, 2004, 04:02:00 PM
because they're whole point is to get more xbox live sales... seems like a great bussiness idea to me.  Sure alot of people "can't" get xbox live but those that have it will renew it and those who don't but "can" will probably sign up.  I wouldn't be suprised if they sign up at least a quarter million new subscribers their first month.  And when they release the ending to the game (they said they will release new single player missions over live), more people will order it just so they can finish the single player.  Mean....sure, but it's a great plan for the company.


And to whoever said that their "10 minutes of netplay" was.... you really got to try more.  Needlers are horrible in most games as people don't tend to sit still and it's homing is not very good.  The sword, although a good weapon, has great dissavantages, especially when someone is just out of reach, you don't stand a chance.  The game is very well balanced and don't even argue against me when you play for only 10 minutes.  people may love the game or hate it but it is balanced.  Now you may encounter somehow who is incredible with the sword or with a sniper and think the weapons are cheap, or you may play against some noobs and think the game is too easy.  but how would you know from only 10 minutes.  I have to think you are exaggerating but even an hour doesn't show how great the online is.  I seggest playing the stategy games like ctf and assault.  You can't always win that by run and gun.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Heet on November 30, 2004, 03:21:00 AM
I quit playing halo online after about 30 mins.  Yuck.  I have found love in Ghost Recon 2 tho.  Wow what a game.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: SpookieStylez on December 06, 2004, 04:26:00 PM
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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: ReN3G@dE on December 08, 2004, 12:24:00 AM
i have to say i agree as well to most of the replys,,, i just dont understnad how they delayed the game like for a year jsut to add 5 new weapons and put in like 10 new charectors?????????????????????

and the story line was very short,, from what we have seen from what they did in halo 1 they could of done a lot better in halo 2 considering ti was one of the most anticapated games ever.....................
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: NecroNomic on December 17, 2004, 02:45:00 PM
i didnt think the story's presentation was good. the story itself was pretty good, i like the idea of the covenant coming to earth, but it wasnt shown very well....and i think the bump mapping and bloom effects made it look alot better than halo 1.....
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: GameMasta24 on December 19, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
I didnt really like h2 CAmpaign mode. I like the convenant mode where u could go CAMO but still i didnt like it a lot. Halo 2
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: Neil on December 21, 2004, 06:09:00 PM
the game has it's good points and it's bad points. Surprise, surprise. I would say it needed more work still if it was gonna be the game that was supposed to rock your world and make kiddies camp outside in the cold just to get it.

Bottom line:
This should not win game of the year (in any category).
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: VitoDauelo on December 27, 2004, 06:44:00 PM
I love halo 2 in practically every way...the only complaint i had about the single player was its length, and the extremely annoying cliffhanger at the end of the game.  Multi-player should keep me going until the next halo game, the first games multi-player sure did.
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: nikeskateboarding.net on December 30, 2004, 11:35:00 AM
I truly prefer lion king 1.5
Title: About Halo 2
Post by: mb3k on January 18, 2005, 12:28:00 PM
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Title: About Halo 2
Post by: ThaCrip on March 01, 2005, 12:24:00 PM
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