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Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: CattyKid on February 05, 2006, 01:57:00 PM
First off, I have NEVER used a modded Halo 2 map or anything of the like.  This thread is only posted here as "modding" is the biggest problem in Halo 2.

From Wikipedia
QUOTE
Modding is a slang expression for the act of modifying a piece of hardware or software to perform a function not intended or authorized by the original manufacturer.


To get to the point, we have a bad name.  Us, the Xbox Modders.  I used to tell all my friends on my friends list about Xbox-Scene and things of the like.  I also told them that I really enjoyed modding.  I'm sure you can imagine some of the reactions I got, expecially when playing with people not on my friends list.  This was at a time when I was naive to the whole modding problem.  
After talking with people like that for a while, I realized what some of them had come to think of me (I used to play a lot and got pretty good).  They thought that I was using modified content.  It cast me in a bad light.
In summary, whenever someone mentions "modding" around the average (especially hardcore) Xbox fan (we at X-S are niot average), they are looked down upon.  It is assumed that they simply mod to unbalance the fairness in online gaming.
At least, this has been my experience.

What do you guys think about this?
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: BirdofPrey on February 06, 2006, 02:52:00 PM
Its just an excuse, I got accused of modding a couple days ago because i completely owned their team. People use it to whine because they're upset. The average user doesnt even understand what mods are.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: CattyKid on February 06, 2006, 08:13:00 PM
QUOTE(BirdofPrey @ Feb 6 2006, 04:23 PM) View Post

Its just an excuse, I got accused of modding a couple days ago because i completely owned their team. People use it to whine because they're upset. The average user doesnt even understand what mods are.

Yup, I agree.  It certainly is an excuse, and sometimes you'll even get reported for it.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: Alex548 on February 06, 2006, 08:58:00 PM
The word modding is used constantly to refer to people who are using hacked maps on H2. It has nothing to do with us, but since we also use that word to describe what we do with consoles... we tend to get grouped together & unfortunately we get cast in the same bad light as those cheating bastards.

I stopped using the phrase "I mod xboxes" a long time ago because of this crap.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: BanjoK on February 06, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
Most people are ignorant and do not understand most things. Most people are influenced on how to think by the media and the media generally portrays subjects that have a large possibility of negativity as completely negative. Realizing that the ratio of negative coverage is much greater than the non-negative coverage sees this. Modding and hacking are subject areas, which in the media are shown in a very bad light. Most people are ignorant and do not care to learn about the world so they keep on thinking that all they see and hear is the whole picture. People generally do not think for themselves. That needs to stop.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: melongstrike on February 06, 2006, 09:36:00 PM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Feb 5 2006, 09:28 PM) View Post

I used to tell all my friends on my friends list about Xbox-Scene and things of the like.



Big mistake, I never tell anyone about this place especailly on-line jerks I don't know. Soon word gets around and people are trying to shut the site down for shit they they don't fully comprehend. Only 2 of my really good friends ever heard me talk about the scene.


Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: chorizo1 on February 06, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
there are also 2 types of "modders"

1) the guy who mods a map to LOOK different, adds skins and alt. cars  etc. (harmless)

and

2) The Fucking cheaters that brought this shit all down. all they want to do is mod the game to CHEAT on LIVE.

I feel for the first group, as you can't get any help with doing any of the basic thigs  mentioned, because you get lumped to those other fuckheads.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: Maertz on February 07, 2006, 08:23:00 AM
i agree with the 2 types of modder but it does seem lame when people say your modding just beacause your etter than them. i agree we have a bad name also in a way.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: CattyKid on February 07, 2006, 07:45:00 PM
QUOTE(chorizo1 @ Feb 7 2006, 12:01 AM) View Post

1) the guy who mods a map to LOOK different, adds skins and alt. cars  etc. (harmless)

Yeah, this stuff is fine and can really extend the life of a game that someone has purchased.  It's too bad that these things couldn't be released on LIVE as free downloads.  Some of them are amazing (at least they look amazing, I've nver used any).  Maybe, in the 360 era, MS will allow for user-created content.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: Maertz on February 08, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
maybe at least like unreal tournament where they give you tools to mod it and have a competition for skinning the game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: guitarfrk on February 08, 2006, 02:01:00 PM
agreed..
 what really pissed me off was seeing the same ppf of warock every damn time id get it..

theyd think theyre all studly jus bc they know how to apply a ppf to the map

Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: koala-sniper on February 08, 2006, 04:21:00 PM
In my opinion, to use modded skins or possibly even stuff is fine just as long as they stay off of live and just play with friends on 1 console.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: BanjoK on February 08, 2006, 04:35:00 PM
Any modification at all is harmless. The only thing wrong is cheating.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: CattyKid on February 08, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
Once again, I totally agree with what everyone is saying.  We should be able to use things for our own pleasure that extend the life of the game and place EVERYONE on equal ground, but as soon as someone cheats, they should burn muhaha.gif .
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: koala-sniper on February 09, 2006, 05:55:00 AM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Feb 8 2006, 09:38 PM) View Post

Once again, I totally agree with what everyone is saying.  We should be able to use things for our own pleasure that extend the life of the game and place EVERYONE on equal ground, but as soon as someone cheats, they should burn muhaha.gif .

Agreed. Cheating is what kills the fun in games.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: yaazz on February 24, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
Halo 2 mods arent that interesting.
Halo 1 mods, now those were sweet... you could get giant fighting robots ph34r.gif
and the CZN trainer was the coolest thing around backin the day

plus you couldnt use them online unless everyone else did the same


Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: esc1 on February 25, 2006, 05:07:00 PM
I don't think you can really say "We" b/c there is no halo 2 modding on the scene, but when referring to xbox modding, then yes it is looked down upon on the community when they misinterpret.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: Daedric Masterchief on March 06, 2006, 12:28:00 PM
I use XLink Kai, and I don't like the cheaters who can escape the level and can't be killed.

I've been accused of cheating, because I wasted an entire team of idiots.
I never cheat in Halo! Mostly because of two things
1) I can beat you without them
2) I'm don't have the patience to deal with Mods. Although I have Soft-modded my XBox.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: kezor on March 07, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
you wanna blame someone for all these mods on xbox live blame these douche bags:
http://www.projectmimesis.com


Before you start to tell me, oh that is the good type of mods.
No he released a lil program to his buddies that when they edited those halo 2 maps and the signature changed this program would change the signature back to the orginal one. he is the one who should be blamed. CLUIS i am guessing his name was. Yeah don't blame anyone else he fucked up the whole Halo 2 modding scene.
Title: We Have A Bad Name
Post by: slidellsimba2 on March 23, 2006, 08:41:00 PM
if he didnt someone would've... right i mean in halo 1 i remember being in plenty of games when someone-who shall remain unnamed-first said he found  way to glass mod the walls on almost all maps.  now at first this was ok, because he refused to share them..... great, you found it and wont release it, good looking out, but then someone else comes along and does the same thing..... i used to love modding maps to look slightly different as i didnt have much time to do some of the wonderful things i had seen being done close to the halo 2 launch....  and thinking about the publicity some of them got, i wouldnt be suprised if this wasnt an added bonus to the ms/bungie buyout, i mean gamespy was the way to play halo 1, anyone i knew was using it then eventually xbc and kai, man i loved those days because the mods were bearable, and even on a bad connection you could adjust to the lag, now we have standby.... wonderful /end rant