Post by: da_shiznit on November 13, 2004, 09:50:00 AM
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Post by: Morglum on November 14, 2004, 12:04:00 AM
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Post by: Rooble on November 14, 2004, 12:10:00 AM
, so i went and got halo2 because of all the fuss and good reviews its had. i was expecting a bit more really.. the multiplayer gets a tad boring after a while, and with the amount of bandwidth this game use's 
the campaign mode is pretty good i must admit, its kept me going and ive still to finish it 
Post by: jesusphreak on November 14, 2004, 12:24:00 AM
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| and with the amount of bandwidth this game use's |
What do you mean by this exactly?
The MP is a bit repetetive, I will say that.
Post by: SupaDawg on November 14, 2004, 12:37:00 PM
I was disappointed when i was handed a copy of the leak around a month back... wasnt 100% impressed, but now that i've played it on live and on a huge lan (we had 15 xboxes here last nite) it shows that its a great games.
not many other games offer a nearly lagless experience on live, but this ones does.
and the tracking on bungie.net is unreal.... you can even get a graphical representation of every one of your games online.
It is BY FAR the BEST online multiplayer game i have ever played. I've played blenty of PC multiplayer(farcry, Doom3, Battlefield....), but felt like quite a loser sitting in front of a monitor alone in my room playing games... PS2 offers nothing anywhere near comparable.
so get off your ass and dont bitch till you've tried it all. its "ok" on kai and xbc, but you really havent played this game till u play on live.
speaking of which i have a clanmatch planned.
-out
Post by: jesusphreak on November 14, 2004, 01:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (SupaDawg @ Nov 14 2004, 04:40 PM) |
| Obviosly the bulk of you dont play on LiVE. I was disappointed when i was handed a copy of the leak around a month back... wasnt 100% impressed, but now that i've played it on live and on a huge lan (we had 15 xboxes here last nite) it shows that its a great games. not many other games offer a nearly lagless experience on live, but this ones does. and the tracking on bungie.net is unreal.... you can even get a graphical representation of every one of your games online. It is BY FAR the BEST online multiplayer game i have ever played. I've played blenty of PC multiplayer(farcry, Doom3, Battlefield....), but felt like quite a loser sitting in front of a monitor alone in my room playing games... PS2 offers nothing anywhere near comparable. so get off your ass and dont bitch till you've tried it all. its "ok" on kai and xbc, but you really havent played this game till u play on live. speaking of which i have a clanmatch planned. -out |
I've played on LIVE plenty.
The game, while lagless sometimes, lags horribly others.
The gameplay is still very repetetive, whether you play on LIVE or not.
PC games have been offering the same thing for 5 years.
There's not much new, its just more public than anything previously.
Post by: gnutellafan on November 14, 2004, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: Rattled_by_the_Rush on November 14, 2004, 05:14:00 PM
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| Was halo 2 overhyped? |
It hyped up as much as possible, a total saturation bombing of hype. it didn't live up to it, imo. i don't think any game could live up to that kind of hype.
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| Not Worth It? |
hmmmm.....well, live play is pretty fun, but it's hard to say. I kinda regret paying $50 for it. Live is a lot of fun though.
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| are you just a console junkie, and have never been exposed to the other side of gaming. (PC) |
You make it sound like this is a bad thing. Yeah, i'm a console junky, always have been always will be. but i won't argue over what is better. you get certain kinds of games and a certain kind of feel in a console that you don't get with a PC and vice versa.
I've played through some games on my pc and it wasn't right. just the way i was raised, i suppose
Post by: Errant on November 14, 2004, 07:39:00 PM
Finished it in less than 12 hours of play (approximately)
But it was a fun game none the less.
Post by: doompatroller on November 14, 2004, 07:50:00 PM
While I am sure many of you will wax on about the incredible multiplayer benefits and the addtion of playing the game on Live, but consider this:
Wouldn't you have been just as well served with a Halo Expansion Pack with new multiplayer maps and Live support?
Because Gents...this is exactly what you got.
Halo was a GREAT game not only because of the multiplayer experience, but because the single player campaign was engrossing, well written, and something that a lot of other games could only aspire to...
This..."Halo 2"...appears (at least to me, before the personal attacks begin...), to be nothing more than a MS attempt to further entrench it's Xbox Live program into gaming.
Not worth the $59.99 I spent on the game.
As a result of this I will be highly suspcious of the inevitable "Halo 3" when it arrives...
(Note: Was it just my Xbox or did anyone else have a problem with "layering" of textures during cut scenes? The game would cut to scene and for like the first second or so...I literally watched the textures applied?! This is unforgivable in a game in development this long....)
Post by: Mr Clown on November 14, 2004, 09:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (doompatroller @ Nov 15 2004, 04:53 AM) |
| This..."Halo 2"...appears (at least to me, before the personal attacks begin...), to be nothing more than a MS attempt to further entrench it's Xbox Live program into gaming. |
Give the man a prize
Post by: neverwill on November 15, 2004, 02:05:00 AM
I don't understand all these people that say they loved Halo 1 but don't like Halo2, that just sounds crazy to me...I don't know, maybe it's because bungie took away your god pistol. The riffle is a much better alternative anyway. I will agree that the game is too short though, but I'm replaying it now on Heroic and I'm about half way through, and it's a much better experience on the harder difficulty levels.
As far as multiplayer, I can't get enough of it on XBLive, I never had bothered to purchase live before, but this game came with a free two month trial, so I gave it a shot, and wow...perfect, I think I'll probably keep my subscription after the two months is up just because of how much fun it is.
Post by: Sentient on November 15, 2004, 01:57:00 PM
With that out of the way, are you guys fucking insane????
Comparing duke nukem 3d to either of the halo games is a joke, the physics(edit: spelling phisics oops) in halo slaps duke nukem in the sack and keeps walkin. Yeah, jetpacks would be the shit. The elites have them in single player, so if they aren't going to be downloadable content, someone will hack them. Which I know you shouldnt account for hacks as part of how you rate a game but entire games are based on other games that were hacked (Counter Strike for example) But back to my point, duke nukem 3D is comperable to doom2.
As for PC versus console, if your PC is up to par it will smoke any console on the market, the xbox (which has the most powerful hardware in a console) is only the equivalent of a 733 pentium w/ 64 mb shared memory, that is it shares 64 megs between the system and video... aka a really weak PC. But consoles have the advantage of number of games available. Theres alot of developers that develop w/ consoles in mind then port their games to PC.
For those saying that the graphics on halo 2 suck, you must be watching the game with your dicks. EVERYTHING has been stepped up from halo 1 bump mapping is used to the fullest effect, there are no prerendered backdrops, only 3d world. All of the cutscenes are run on the games physics and graphic engine, something that most game developers dont have the ability to do, bc their cutscenes would look alot like a wookie's asshole... UGLY. dont even flame me w/ the "omg you fag you like wookie assholes". Back to the point yet again. If you say that either of the halo games are average or call the second one an updated first one, you are a tard.. no offense, but really which bus do you ride? I bet its the short one.
Halo 2 is a continuation of halo 1 so if you are bitching because of similarities in gameplay do us a favor and kick yourself in the nuts. Halo 2 is halo with WAY more features the physics engine is alot different, the character models have been changed, they now use fewer polygons and achive a better look (w/ bump mapping and advanced normal mapping techniques) so that now when there are 16 character models on your screen the xbox doesnt lag. There are alot more vehicles and they are damagable in multiple layers, YOU CAN FUCKING STEAL YOUR OPPONENTS VEHICLE I MEAN COME ON THAT FUCKIN ROCKS. And im not talking about some 3rd person realtime strategy mutant hijacker bullshit, you jump on the vehicle and melee the hatch until it breaks, then you punch them to death or stick em w/ a grenade. What game offers that shit? None that I know of. The weapons are Balanced VERY well. There is no getting good with 1 gun and owning the game, because different weapons behave better or worse depending on the situation... except the covenant carbine I predict that gun is going to piss alot of people off, but still the weapons are fucking sweet. Do i even need to bring up the sword? I will anyway, some people complain that "the sword is a noob weapon and is too easy to use" RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT thats why you don't get any kills w/ it because you are too l337 to understand the noobness of it. WRONG, the truth is that you dont know how to sneak around and ambush people, you just charge and spray. As for Halo 1 not being a good game. It set the standard for what a new FPS was supposed to be.... I'm rambling and I'm at work sooooo I gotta go but FOR FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED THE GAME??@?@?@?@?@?@?!?!?!?!?!???!?@#!$!@$!@$
Post by: Infamous_One on November 15, 2004, 09:53:00 PM
the above is a person that has been blinded by Bungie. the story sucks , at some point of the game i got bored. while on HALO you have that action and music that keeps you going.
Halo 2 music is the same one from HALO with just a little guitar and drums on it , more than half of the soundtrack is from other people and it sucks , not very HALO related songs.
and i can keep on and on but im just bored of talking about HALO 2 or should i say HALO 1.5.
Post by: melongstrike on November 15, 2004, 10:10:00 PM
However, this game was overhyped and was very lackluster.
Has anyone else noticed that all the cool stuff in the previews were stripped away... for example the combo melee ability ... I mean where the hell did it go?
The stage I guess the first one Cairo ... the preview showed Master Chief manning the gun in the warthog shooting Wraiths and Banshees through a city to his surprise brutes came out of nowhere and started kicking ass.
The same stage where the marine tells M.C. to follow me and the wounded soldier first gave him the gun (dual weilding) and some ship flew by and dropped a bomb on some structure.
I feel ripped off in a sense, I won't fuss about this or that weapon, or falling and no damage, or any other complaint others brought up. But I thought my concerns were valid.
All the cool stuff (even though it was only in the first stage) are not present in the finished version ... at least not my copy ... ok enough with with this, time to try and win 10000 with ESPN 2K5.
Post by: Heet on November 15, 2004, 10:36:00 PM
Post by: gcskate27 on November 15, 2004, 10:57:00 PM
Post by: Kira Yamoto on November 16, 2004, 09:12:00 AM
)also they did not fix everything they were supposed to fix in halo 1 for halo 2. for instance the repetitive levels, more often than not, i find myself wandering for i dont know how long trying to find which way is the right way to go, i heard that halo 1 had horrible level design and this one apparently is just as bad. i mean after 3 years in development you'd expect them to fix it but they didnt. wtf is wrong with them????
on the subject of Xlink and XBC vs live, really there is no difference when it comes to the gameplay, while Xbl is less laggy and has more players + clan support and matching services, Xlink and XBC also offers rooms to play in which under the right conditions perform exactly like those of xbl with the same features such as voice chat. of course i prefer xbl but i somehow have the feeling that people cheat on those free networks. still theres a lot of good games out there that have no lag and arent abound with cheaters, its still a good experience if you dont have the money to pay for xbl or dont want to pay for xbl. in short, its just good to have it there when you need it even if you dont.
but while everyone is overhyping Halo 2, there are gamers that are awaiting the release of Half-Life 2 and have already played FPS greats like Farcry, Doom 3, Unreal. PC FPSes have ALWAYS been superior to console and whoever said controller is better than a mouse obviously never played using a mouse. its like comparing joysticks to pads and they just dont compare, you have much more control over a joystick than you do a pad, all the buttons are just laid out for you.
halo and part 2 may have not offered much new stuff (but it has made its contributions) but its still a pretty fun game, worth the 50bucks i spent. (at least its offered more new stuff than Doom 3)
Post by: hockeyguy on November 16, 2004, 09:15:00 AM
Post by: Sentient on November 16, 2004, 05:15:00 PM
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| the above is a person that has been blinded by Bungie. the story sucks , at some point of the game i got bored. while on HALO you have that action and music that keeps you going. Halo 2 music is the same one from HALO with just a little guitar and drums on it , more than half of the soundtrack is from other people and it sucks , not very HALO related songs. and i can keep on and on but im just bored of talking about HALO 2 or should i say HALO 1.5. |
Which part of my statement shows that I have been "blinded by bungie"?
Although the way that I assembled my previous statement might have leaned toward worship of halo 2 (it is godlike
) I used mostly facts. Excluding the wookie asshole bit. You on the other hand used opinions about how the single player sucked because "there wasn't enough action" and "the soundtrack"
My suggestion to remedy the "lack of action" is: turn the dificulty off of normal.
As for the soundtrack, you actually contradicted yourself:
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| while on HALO you have that action and music that keeps you going. Halo 2 music is the same one from HALO with just a little guitar and drums on it , more than half of the soundtrack is from other people and it sucks , not very HALO related songs. |
So which is it? Halo 2 has new music that sucks and Halo 1 had music that "keeps you going". Or does Halo 2 just use the same soundtrack from halo 1 with half of the songs different?
ahhhhhh....
okay I feel better, I hate to flame but I'm just about fed up w/ the halo bashing because it didn't live up to what you created in your mind.
Post by: Foe-hammer on November 16, 2004, 06:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (Sentient @ Nov 15 2004, 11:00 PM) |
| As for PC versus console, if your PC is up to par it will smoke any console on the market, the xbox (which has the most powerful hardware in a console) is only the equivalent of a 733 pentium w/ 64 mb shared memory, that is it shares 64 megs between the system and video... aka a really weak PC. |
You cannot compare the xbox's specs directly to a pc's specs. While the xbox specs look pathetic, you don't need half (probably even less) of the cpu speed and ram that a pc would need for games. With a pc, you have a lot more overhead to deal with, such as windows running in the background, and different gpu chip compatibility. With the xbox, developers can use all of the available resources specifically for a game, and because everyone has the exact same hardware, they can squeeze every drop out of it. You are never going to run halo 1 on a pc with a 733 cpu, and only 64 megs of ram, even at 640 x 480 res. No way no how.
Post by: NixNamz on November 16, 2004, 07:21:00 PM
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Post by: Will_Die_Trying on November 17, 2004, 02:25:00 AM
Also, to anyone defendind halo 2 based off of the live or online play. let us go back to the days before online play and the days when online play was a fledgling concept. A game must first satisfy the single player aspect before moving on and gaining merit in the multi-player/online aspects. Remeber less than half the xbox owners are online with the xbox. this means that while less than half can brag on the online features, most people with xbox and halo 2 are stuck on the sidelines and asking, "what happened to this savure of console gaming that was to be halo 2". why was it a savure? because unlike pc's, PC quality FPS on consoles are rare. halo: CE/1 reached this mark for the most part, halo 2 raises this benchmark, but anyone that is familure with programming sees how simple halo 2 is. it is a less polygon, better shaded version of halo 1 with similar maps and a few new maps. add a minimal amount of new vehicals and few new weapons, advertise as if it where an apocolyptic save the earth game, and put that in the demos, on the covers(games and guides and postures), and on every advertisement and halo 2 display in the nation, neh the world, and you have yourself a, "change at the last minute because MS is not sure it can garauntee enough sales with the new xbox 2 so we're going to strectch this game for all its worth", game
In sort good game for consoles, bad customer/fan loyalty to make an extra dollar. which is not illegal or bad business. But, MS has learned the value of a dollar and still has not yet learned the value of delivering what was said to be delivered.
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 17, 2004, 02:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (Will_Die_Trying @ Nov 17 2004, 11:28 AM) |
| Also, to anyone defendind halo 2 based off of the live or online play. let us go back to the days before online play and the days when online play was a fledgling concept. A game must first satisfy the single player aspect before moving on and gaining merit in the multi-player/online aspects. |
i dont know... i knew 1 player would be like halo 1 with new levels and new guns.. nothing else too new.
when halo 1 came out it was fresh, now this was just too hyped... so i didnt expect much, and what i did get, i was alright with...
about the online statement.. certain games are just made for online play.. this, in my opinion, is one that without the online abilities wouldnt be worth the purchase.
it gave us all something to look forward to though right?
Post by: Will_Die_Trying on November 17, 2004, 04:06:00 PM
Also, not to be a D1CK, but from your comment you bought halo: ce. i wasn't online compatible, unless you have a modded box. was it worth buying? maybe you maight consider games that aren't online compatible. some are better than you think. online gets repeatative and old to me. its the same characters killing eachother over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.
Post by: gcskate27 on November 17, 2004, 04:22:00 PM
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| but anyone that is familure with programming sees how simple halo 2 is. it is a less polygon, better shaded version of halo 1 with similar maps and a few new maps. add a minimal amount of new vehicals and few new weapons |
this here shows how unfamiliar you are with game programming...
*either that or you didnt notice all the 'little things' in halo2... which you would if you knew about game programing, so i take that back...
Post by: durbancic on November 18, 2004, 09:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (gondzur @ Nov 18 2004, 11:27 PM) |
| Just a stupid thought....but MAYBE they took forEVER to release Halo2 because they wanted to be closer to completing Halo3 at the time or release? The ending definitely sets things up for a Halo3 and they need to hurry up with it. My only gripe is that the game was WAY too short. |
you make a very good point here, especially since we are just over one year away from the xenon, and (most likely) halo3 (or whatever) will be released with the system when it comes out. This allows people one year to get over it be excited for a new system, and a new great game that will definately be like a NEW, different game because of the xenon's abilities.
-dan