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Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 16, 2005, 08:04:00 AM
Hey guys, by now all hockey fans should know that the NHL is back.

I know because i'm canadian that hockey will just pick up where it left off up here. But my question goes towards those who live in the US.

Are you guys happy and ready to see the new nhl? or are you just going to ignore it and watch your baseball/basketball/football?

Odog
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: melongstrike on July 16, 2005, 08:38:00 AM
Not excited at all... I was (dare I say it) kind of glad when they stopped playing... but for those who do enjoy the sport I am hapy for you. I will just do as I did before and not watch it problem solved and everyone wins.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Spency234 on July 16, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
All I have to say is:

(IMG:http://fightclub.canalblog.com/GoLeafsGo_800x600_1_.jpg)

This post has been edited by Spency234: Jul 16 2005, 04:14 PM
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 16, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
Well I am glad that it's back but Salery Caps WTF? I hate them and they wasted a whole year on nothing. The good news is that the Red Wings got a good coach and are going to contend for the cup this year. Go Wings Go
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 16, 2005, 08:57:00 PM
with who? Manny? Give me a break. I hear Cujo is heading back Toronto. I'm a leaf fan and hope that day never comes.

GO LEAFZ GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 16, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Spency234 @ Jul 16 2005, 12:17 PM)


HA HA , Nice

Love the Avatar.

This post has been edited by TheODog: Jul 17 2005, 04:22 AM
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: BinaryMod on July 17, 2005, 11:25:00 AM
TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING!!!  Whoo Hoo.... we play hockey in Florida! haha.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 17, 2005, 05:47:00 PM
QUOTE(BinaryMod @ Jul 17 2005, 02:29 PM)
TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING!!!  Whoo Hoo.... we play hockey in Florida! haha.
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Thats my gateway to watch hockey. I cant fucking (you'll know if your a leaf fan) watch hockey live up here. Tickets cost wayyyy to much. I usually go down to Ft.Lauerdale and watch the Panthers vs Leafs all the dam time. I went last year twice and it was 20CAD per ticket 200 level!!!!!!!!

Well i really wanna come see it again down there, i just love it!
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 18, 2005, 03:11:00 PM
QUOTE(TheODog @ Jul 17 2005, 06:51 PM)
Thats my gateway to watch hockey. I cant fucking (you'll know if your a leaf fan) watch hockey live up here. Tickets cost wayyyy to much.

Well i really wanna come see it again down there, i just love it!
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I agree with you 100% Tickets are way to much for hockey, Damn I wanted to see Detroit vs. Toronto and they were 200 each. Wow talk about a rip off. Well it's good to see Canada's game back, I hope Stevie Yzerman is back he is awsome what a superstar IMO the best in the game.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 18, 2005, 03:24:00 PM
QUOTE(XBL_SUCKS @ Jul 18 2005, 06:15 PM)
I agree with you 100% Tickets are way to much for hockey, Damn I wanted to see Detroit vs. Toronto and they were 200 each. Wow talk about a rip off. Well it's good to see Canada's game back, I hope Stevie Yzerman is back he is awsome what a superstar IMO the best in the game.
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I totally agree, Stevey Y is the best when he was at his prime.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Megaherz on July 18, 2005, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE(XBL_SUCKS @ Jul 18 2005, 11:15 PM)
I agree with you 100% Tickets are way to much for hockey, Damn I wanted to see Detroit vs. Toronto and they were 200 each. Wow talk about a rip off. Well it's good to see Canada's game back, I hope Stevie Yzerman is back he is awsome what a superstar IMO the best in the game.
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Are you kidding me? You hope Steve Yzerman is back?!? That fool is ancient! He barely made it through the last full NHL season. I think he's pretty much done for.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 19, 2005, 09:55:00 AM
QUOTE(Megaherz @ Jul 18 2005, 05:44 PM)
Are you kidding me? You hope Steve Yzerman is back?!? That fool is ancient! He barely made it through the last full NHL season. I think he's pretty much done for.
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I have respect for him he is the only player not named Lemieux or Gretzky to score more the 150 points in a single season he had 90 assits and 60 goals in '89'-90, Also Stevie Y has 3 "stanley" cups, 2 gold medals, a heart trophy, conn smythe and is the longest searving captain in NHL history. I am a loyal Wings fan and would like to see him return for leadership and to add depth to a allready strong team
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 19, 2005, 01:44:00 PM
Your all stupid the devils will win. I have wanted a salery cap for so long, no team will benifit more than the devils with a cap. Anyway i have lost almost all excitment over hockey, and this is coming from i diehard fan. Im sure things will change when it actully starts again, but for now its a distant memory.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Spency234 on July 19, 2005, 02:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Jul 19 2005, 04:48 PM)
Your all stupid the devils will win. I have wanted a salery cap for so long, no team will benifit more than the devils with a cap. Anyway i have lost almost all excitment over hockey, and this is coming from i diehard fan. Im sure things will change when it actully starts again, but for now its a distant memory.
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You guys have the most expensive goalie in hockey, and have 11 mil tied up in 1 defenceman plus the goalie.  Don't get me wrong, you can't argue with giving Brodeur whatever the hell he wants, since I think he is the best goalie/player in the sport.

Martin Brodeur

Scott Niedermayer

Also, although you think the cap may help your team, the rule changes where the goalie may not be able to come out of the net to play the puck will by FAR hurt the Devils the most.  Followed by my beloved Maple Leafs.

We really can't say what affect all of this has on any of these teams because the rosters are FAR from being finished.  Players will be leaving, going to different teams, not to mention we still have to draft Sid the Kid.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 19, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
I prodict Sidney Crosby is going to the Buffalo Sabers, They have a legit chance of getting him. Most teams like Toronto, Detroit and the "elite" of the league will not have a chance of signing him. I wish Toronto well because they are my home team but I want the Red Wings to win the cup  biggrin.gif
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 19, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
I agree, but up here hockey is in everyones mind 24/7 even in the summer time.
Well i know its in mind at least.

Odog
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 19, 2005, 05:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Spency234 @ Jul 19 2005, 10:19 PM)
You guys have the most expensive goalie in hockey, and have 11 mil tied up in 1 defenceman plus the goalie.  Don't get me wrong, you can't argue with giving Brodeur whatever the hell he wants, since I think he is the best goalie/player in the sport.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 20, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Jul 19 2005, 06:21 PM)
God do i agree on the rule about goalies playing the puck hurting us. I guess im biased but i think thats the dumbest rule ever. While we might have alot of money in a few players that it mostly. Out of the championship caliber teams (Leafs, Wings, Avs, Flyers, Etc) we have the advantage to not being able to spend as much since we are as good of a team without spending alot of money (wich we cant afford to anyway).
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 20, 2005, 10:47:00 AM
Yeah, i dont like many of the changes. Although i guess i could tolerate them if they actually help bring in fans and make it so i can actually watch non-local games on TV without paying for center ice.

I did hear something about 3 on 3 overtime, it might be interesting to watch. Although i dont know for how long.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 20, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
Oh yeah and the Devils got Larry Robinson back!

Our best coach ever! Ive wanted him back since he left.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 20, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
Ah, Larry R was on OTR this evening talking about the deal. Larry is a great guy but I doubt he will bring the cup back to the swamp without his number2 guy, Scott Stevens.

Odog
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 21, 2005, 08:50:00 AM
The Sidney draft is tomarrow I hope a Canadian team lands him, if not I hope he goes to Buffalo he can really make a difference there. My sleaper pick this year is going to be Philly watch out for them J.R. is hungry this year and he is a proven goal scorer. I just wish the season starts soon.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 22, 2005, 10:37:00 AM
I hope this years season makes up for all the bull we as fans put it with last year.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: jaroc on July 22, 2005, 11:20:00 PM
The penguins should have a playoff team in a year or 2.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 23, 2005, 07:49:00 AM
It was all luck of the draw. It’s sad how the NHL is reduced to just picking their balls out of a wheel. Just shows you how the players together don’t have the balls to drag this out another year. I'm glad after 310 it’s over, but the fact is most teams will stay alive but as for being competitive it’s not going to change. Teams with money will always find a way to avoid any cap restrictions. You will always see a team like Toronto make dumb moves and pick up vet's from Random XYZ team and say "well they went with my hockey club the whole year, so their salary does not count." This cap was a total fucking waste of time on the players part for delaying it an extra 4 months, the owners part for being dickheads and wanting it all or nothing, and most of all wasting our time a whole year especially to those who lost jobs or didn’t get the revenue they would have if their was hockey on.

Don’t get me wrong, I'm happy their back, but from here on in it’s all an uphill battle to win back fans, bar owners and to those who lost their job.

Odog
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 23, 2005, 07:58:00 AM
QUOTE(TheODog @ Jul 23 2005, 09:00 AM)
It was all luck of the draw. It’s sad how the NHL is reduced to just picking their balls out of a wheel. Just shows you how the players together don’t have the balls to drag this out another year. I'm glad after 310 it’s over, but the fact is most teams will stay alive but as for being competitive it’s not going to change. Teams with money will always find a way to avoid any cap restrictions. You will always see a team like Toronto make dumb moves and pick up vet's from Random XYZ team and say "well they went with my hockey club the whole year, so their salary does not count." This cap was a total fucking waste of time on the players part for delaying it an extra 4 months, the owners part for being dickheads and wanting it all or nothing, and most of all wasting our time a whole year especially to those who lost jobs or didn’t get the revenue they would have if their was hockey on.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 23, 2005, 02:12:00 PM
First buyouts, Tony Amonte and John LeClair have had their contracts bought out by the Flyers, The Pittsburgh Penguins should look into LeClair because he is a proven goal scorer and him with Sidney Crosby and Mario Lemieux would be a great line. If you have any updates regarding contract signing's and buyouts please post here.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 23, 2005, 02:22:00 PM
QUOTE(XBL_SUCKS @ Jul 23 2005, 10:23 PM)
First buyouts, Tony Amonte and John LeClair have had their contracts bought out by the Flyers, The Pittsburgh Penguins should look into LeClair because he is a proven goal scorer and him with Sidney Crosby and Mario Lemieux would be a great line. If you have any updates regarding contract signing's and buyouts please post here.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on July 23, 2005, 03:29:00 PM
I'm from pittsburgh and i was so pumped for this last season i thought they were going to do pretty well with recchi, lemieux, and their young team that did very well in the second half of the season along with the #1 and #2 draft pics the last 2 years.

then i get the news that the NHL is back and i didn't think i could be happier

I just got back from pittsburgh with my brother and i can't explain the energy that is in that city after the big news yesterday, it's really great to see the fans back in it there after rough times recently.

In the paper this morning there were articles all over the sprots section, mentioning how people were waiting on the phone for over an hour just to get tickets to a game... i'm so fucking excited.

And they plan to have both lemieux and crosby on the ice together for the first game which is oct 5th, also lemieux's bday.

I think with the growing young players, still strong veterans like lemieux and recchi, and the #1, #2, and #1 draft picks the last 3 years the pens will be contending for a playoff spot this year and i think will be one of the better teams withing a couple years.


sry if i sounded selfish about my team getting crosby, but i hostestly think that team in that city needs this more than any other team.

so pumped hockey is back,
thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 26, 2005, 09:07:00 AM
The Detroit Red Wings, began a busy week in the National Hockey League's buyout barn by eliminating the contracts of defenceman Derian Hatcher, left winger Ray Whitney and right winger Darren McCarty.

The contracts, all purchased at two-thirds the value of the deal, clears more than $9 million US to spend on free agents after Detroit had less than $7 million to play with under the new $39-million NHL cap.

It also adds Hatcher's name to a growing list of prominent free-agent defencemen, such as Scott Niedermayer, Sergei Gonchar and Adam Foote. Hatcher is expected to talk to the Dallas Stars, his first NHL team, where he won a Stanley Cup in 1999. McCarty was a three-time Cup winner and career Red Wing.

Niedermayer, the 2004 Norris Trophy winner, has been linked to the Maple Leafs, among others, but it's expected his destination of choice if he leaves the Meadowlands would be Vancouver, near his Edmonton birthplace and junior hockey roots in Kamloops.

The Canucks have about $28 million in cap room, but must sign a whack of restricted free agents and most importantly, get unrestricted captain Markus Naslund under contract.
 

Niedermayer would give them a reliable power-play quarterback, but many feel the money is better spent on a goaltender such as Nikolai Khabibulin, given Dan Cloutier's ups and downs.

A radio report had Khabibulin going back to his former team, the Phoenix Coyotes, when the free-agency signing period begins on Monday.

The Coyotes bought out forward Brian Savage yesterday, while the Montreal Canadiens did not pick up the option on defenceman Patrice Brisbois.


AS THE Colorado Avalanche and Peter Forsberg appear headed for divorce, teams such as the Maple Leafs are expected to be strong suitors.

In Sweden, hockey fans already are fantasizing about a Mats Sundin-Forsberg union, though there also are rumours that Forsberg and fellow unrestricted free agent and Vancouver Canucks captain Markus Naslund will shop themselves as a package.

Forsberg's future with Colorado has been in doubt. To keep Joe Sakic and Rob Blake and restock the Avs -- Sakic and Blake were invited to a team news conference yesterday as a signal they're staying -- Forsberg would have to be sacrificed, with Alex Tanguay possibly moving to centre.

Forsberg has told friends that he prefers to stay in Denver but if that club's hefty payroll has no wiggle room under the $39-million US salary cap, he wants to go to a competitive team in a big hockey market. Cue the Blue and White bandwagon to welcome him at Union Station. The Leafs would even have jersey No. 21 ready thanks to Robert Reichel's convenient departure.

But Toronto general manager John Ferguson won't talk about Forsberg, citing NHL tampering rules, though it's interesting that he has met his agent, Don Baizley, in the past few days regarding another client, Swedish prospect Alexander Steen.
 

Before landing Forsberg or anyone else in the free-agent free-for-all that begins Monday, Ferguson has to iron out the Owen Nolan situation, with the expensive winger scheduled for right knee surgery today in Cleveland. Plans to buy out Nolan's $5.6-million US contract by Friday are snagged on the issue of how the knee still can be so wonky 16 months after he injured it. Was it his fault or a misdiagnosis by Leaf doctors?

The cost to dump Nolan could fall between $4 million and almost $12 million as agent J.P. Barry considers a second grievance against the Leafs. Ferguson continues to thrash it out with Barry this week.

Ferguson also is trying to see if he can keep some or all of Gary Roberts, Joe Nieuwendyk, Tie Domi and Alex Mogilny during this week's exclusive period for all teams to haggle with their free agents.

"We've continued discussions the past couple of days," said Rick Curran, agent for Roberts and Nieuwendyk.

Curran doesn't expect another client, defenceman Tomas Kaberle, to be bought out by Ferguson this week, echoing the agents for Bryan McCabe and Ken Klee. If so, that means Ferguson is counting heavily on shedding Nolan's contract to help build their current $12 million cap space to fill about 16 spots on the roster with restricted free agents, farmhands and UFAs.

I hate this damn salery cap thing, I would hate to see a bull shit season. Damn stupid Garry Bettman, I hatehim he should give up his position.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 26, 2005, 10:12:00 AM
QUOTE(xbox beat box @ Jul 26 2005, 11:16 AM)
My Sens are gonna win Lord Stanley's Cup, no questions asked.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Spency234 on July 26, 2005, 12:18:00 PM
XBL_SUCKS: where are you getting all of this info?  I'm seriously interested since the only news they had really on Sportscenter last night was that Gonchar may be coming to the Leafs because he loves the city and lives here in the summer.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: xbox beat box on July 26, 2005, 12:47:00 PM
This is going to be a good year
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: xbox beat box on July 26, 2005, 12:49:00 PM
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Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 26, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Spency234 @ Jul 26 2005, 01:29 PM)
XBL_SUCKS: where are you getting all of this info?  I'm seriously interested since the only news they had really on Sportscenter last night was that Gonchar may be coming to the Leafs because he loves the city and lives here in the summer.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 26, 2005, 07:52:00 PM
If you or anyone reading this does not like foul language please dont waste your time reading this, theres plently of it (Nothing like GTA: San Andreas but close enough)
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 26, 2005, 11:36:00 PM
*Edit of my last post*

Sorry XBL, I just heard about forsberg coming to Toronto. Looks like it will happen.

also i just heard Domi Leaving TORONTO? Wtf is that shit. Hes are main beat up guy who out of no where went on a scoring rampage last se during the playoff's when all the big names where not producing.

Well lets just see whats the deal in the next few days. We'll know whos bought out or not by Friday and Starting monday it will be a free agent heaven.

Odog

Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 27, 2005, 09:55:00 AM
QUOTE(jaroc @ Jul 27 2005, 10:13 AM)
No way Tie is leaving t.o. I don't believe it.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 27, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
wow, lets hope this continues. I love all the talk about hockey and anything hockey related. Its nice to see the league picking right back up here in Torotno with the media and what not, but one thing is forsure the Leafs will have to make a run for the cup this year as eddie belfour aint getting any younger.

As for hatcher, i heard more about him going to Dallas then I heard him going to VanCouver. Vancouver with a guy like Hatcher will have a solid defence with a mix of young and old. With Hatcher they can roll 3 defence lines just as good as NJ's 2003 Stanley cup winner team did.


Odog
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 27, 2005, 08:56:00 PM
You can add Piere Turgeon to the bought out list he was waved by the Stars and if no team picks him up he will be bought out. Also Joe Thorton is mad with the Bruins looks like he might be out of there soon.

I will update as soon as I get more info
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 27, 2005, 09:39:00 PM
Man, your awsome in keeping this thread uptodate. lol

Odog
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 27, 2005, 09:51:00 PM
2005-2006 Sced came out. Looks like the Leafs just have to beat the sens more times in one year.  

What i cant believe. Your gonna hate this XBL. There is no TORONTO DETROIT matchup.

CAN YOU FUCKING BELIEVE THAT????

Bastards.

Odog
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 27, 2005, 09:59:00 PM
QUOTE(TheODog @ Jul 27 2005, 10:50 PM)
Man, your awsome in keeping this thread uptodate. lol
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: xbox beat box on July 28, 2005, 07:55:00 AM
Sens to hold on to Spezza and Hasek.....Todd White prolly not.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 28, 2005, 08:06:00 AM
Here's a nother update.lol THE BOSTON Bruins' big pitch to keep centre Joe Thornton for five years seems only to have pushed him closer to leaving Beantown as a free agent next year.

On the surface, general manager Mike O'Connell's reported offer of five years at close to $25 million US is a generous one. But the average of just over $5 million is less than what he's due as a qualifying offer this year and Thornton, as an eight-year NHL veteran, can become unrestricted next summer.

"It makes you wonder if they truly understand what kind of hockey player they have with Joe," agent J.P. Barry told the Canadian Press. "We'll see where this is going very soon."

O'Connell insists he's trying to keep Thornton happy and ice a competitive team, too. With just three players under contract and more than $37 million to spend, he fired off long-term offers to winger Sergei Samsonov (three years), winger P.J. Axelsson (three years), defenceman Sergei Gonchar (four years) and winger Martin Lapointe (three years). Like Thornton, Samsonov and Axelsson are restricted while Gonchar and Lapointe will be unrestricted on Monday.

BLUES WANT PRONGER
 

St. Louis GM Larry Pleau submitted qualifying offers to retain the rights to 12 players including defenceman Chris Pronger.

The Blues have thus committed $19.7 million -- about one-half the $39 million team cap -- to keep Pronger ($7.2 million), Keith Tkachuk ($6.84 million) and Doug Weight ($5.7 million).

"Even with those three players on our roster, we will still be well below the salary cap," said Pleau.

YOUNG GUNS

The Philadelphia Flyers took a huge step towards their first Stanley Cup in 30 years yesterday, signing forwards Jeff Carter and Michael Richards to three-year contracts. They were were first-round draft picks in 2003 and considered two of the best prospects in their class.

Flyers general manager Bob Clarke said recently both players deserved the maximum salary of $942,400 US per year.

LEETCH IN LIMBO

Little has been said about Brian Leetch's plans for 2005-06. Sources say the unrestricted free agent, who was traded by the Rangers to the Leafs for the 2004 playoffs, yearns to return to Manhattan and would take a big pay cut to do so, but remains cool towards general manager Glen Sather for trading him.

The 37-year-old enjoyed his brief Leaf experience, particularly playing with Bryan McCabe, but is apparently not comfortable being under the hockey microscope in Toronto.

RETURN OF HNIC

Hockey Night In Canada re-launches on Oct. 8 with Jim Hughson moving in behind play-by-play man Bob Cole, more games broadcast in High Definition TV and mix of new and old intermission features
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 28, 2005, 02:49:00 PM
Yet even more info HE IS A BIG defenceman, he has played with Mats Sundin, was coached by Pat Quinn and has lacrosse connections in Whitby.

That's enough to make Adam Foote feel welcome at the Air Canada Centre on any day of the week. But with unrestricted free agents up for grabs as of Monday and sources saying Toronto has always been high on Foote's list of new teams, no further background checks should be required.

Foote, like Peter Forsberg, appears to be caught in the salary cap squeeze of the Colorado Avalanche, who have indicated Joe Sakic and Rob Blake, both contracted, are their first priorities in staying under $39 million US, the National Hockey League limit. However, Avs general manager Pierre Lacroix might not want to lose both Forsberg and Foote, unless he has his own free agent in mind as a replacement.

Foote, 34, has been obscured in recent weeks as Scott Niedermayer, Sergei Gonchar and Derian Hatcher were shoved toward the door by their respective clubs. But Foote would be a catch, a two-time Canadian Olympian and Stanley Cup winner with the Avalanche.

TIGHT-LIPPED

 
 
 
 

Sundin's one-time teammate on the Quebec Nordiques is busy in the Whitby lacrosse scene (he once played the sport in the same area as Leafs' Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyk) and is laying low until next week. Leafs GM John Ferguson and Quinn, the Toronto and Team Canada coach, are tight-lipped on the subject of free agents. This week, Ferguson is negotiating with Roberts, Nieuwendyk and Tie Domi, the latter keeping curiously close to Pittsburgh Penguins' owner Mario Lemieux these days.

Ferguson has until tomorrow -- at 5 p.m. -- to decide if he is buying out any Leafs to clear room for his own restricted and unrestricted free agents and next week's league-wide shopping spree.

Foote won't be cheap (he was worth $4.4 million US to Denver in the pre-rollback days), but never underestimate what players will do if they want badly enough to be Leafs. Richard Peddie, president and CEO of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment Ltd., spoke of the club's intangible "star power" on The Fan 590 radio earlier this week.

"Maybe someone would want to play (strongly enough) for Toronto for a little bit less money," Peddie said.

TORONTO (CP) - Bob Goodenow stepped down as head of the NHL Players' Association on Thursday, saying the time was right to hand the baton to his lieutenant Ted Saskin.

The news comes one week after the players' held their noses and voted in favour of a new labour deal. At the time Goodenow said he enjoyed his work and planned to serve out his contract.

That changed, he said Thursday, after discussions with the NHLPA executive committee. There was always going to be a transition, Goodenow told a news conference. He just "accelerated" the process.

"I've enjoyed very much my involvement and I think that the transition which would have occurred in the future, being moved up as it has been today, is the right step at the right time," he explained.

"There's the old saying, when it feels good and it looks good, go ahead and do it, and that's what we've done."

 
 
 
 

Goodenow had "a couple of years left" on a contract that reportedly paid him $2.5 million US a year. Apparently a settlement was negotiated to take care of that deal.

"What we've worked out is an accommodation that's satisfactory to everyone," he said.

The hard-nosed Goodenow officially took as NHLPA executive director in 1992, but had been running the show behind the scenes as early as 1991 in the messy departure of Alan Eagleson.

He said he had no immediate plans.

"I have no plans for anything right now. I'm going to take a few months off and think about what I might want to do in the future. I really haven't given it any thought."

Goodenow called his time with the NHLPA "a tremendous pleasure."

"It's a tremendous sport, it's a great group of people and I get to tell you that I think the future is very bright for the sport and for everyone involved in it," he said.

Saskin, the NHLPA's senior director of business affairs and licensing, will succeed Goodenow as executive director and general counsel. Saskin served as the union's lead negotiator on the labour deal, sparring with Bill Daly of the NHL.

Goodenow said Saskin was "uniquely situated" to take over given his work on the collective bargaining agreement.

It is widely believed that the new labour deal, with its salary cap and linkage to league revenues, was not favoured by Goodenow.

But as the lockout wiped out the entire 2004-05 season, players made their voices heard. NHLPA president Trevor Linden stepped in and the union returned to the bargaining table ready to negotiate

On Thursday, Goodenow dismissed a suggestion the agreement was a failure. And he showed some emotion when asked about suggestions he had played a smaller role in the negotiations as the months wore on.

He rejected the suggestion, growing emotional when talking about how a "personal matter" had taken him away from the process at one point.

"My mother passed away last week and I had some days where I was preoccupied," he said.

In its statement announcing Goodenow's departure, the NHLPA said: "This decision followed discussions between Goodenow and members of the executive committee about the organization's future."

Linden spoke warmly of Goodenow in the statement announcing his departure.

"Every NHL player has benefited enormously from Bob's leadership and dedication. He has been a tireless advocate for the players and he dramatically improved the players' situation in every respect. Bob built the NHLPA into a first-class organization and we are all very grateful to him."

Linden also praised Saskin in Thursday's statement.

"Ted has worked closely with Bob every step of the way and has done an excellent job for the players in our recently concluded CBA negotiations. We have every confidence that he will be able to lead our association well in the years to come."

The moves mean both of the lead negotiators in the labour deal have been promoted: Saskin to executive director and Daly to deputy commissioner.

Commissioner Gary Bettman issued his own statement Thursday.

"I have always respected Bob's tenacity, passion and professionalism, and I wish him well in his future endeavours. We congratulate Ted and look forward to working with him."

Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 28, 2005, 10:22:00 PM
not only is it a sweet offseason, its just nice to see all this talk about hockey. Brings a tingle down my spine.

Regarding jagr, hes gonna be second most over paid player. Looks like Pronger will be if he accepts the deal from St. Louis.

We'll see come monday, free agent heaven.

Wtf is up with this NO ALL STAR GAME. I dont care if there is allready a 2 week break, they need the all-star game just to gain some fans again. Its always sweet to watch those.

Odog
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 29, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
QUOTE(xbox beat box @ Jul 29 2005, 10:08 AM)
God I hope Don Cherry fuckin dies before the start of the season. The fact that my tax dollars are going to this guys salary just infuriates me. Maybe if he was less biased I wouldnt mind.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: xbox beat box on July 29, 2005, 09:16:00 AM
QUOTE(XBL_SUCKS @ Jul 29 2005, 05:11 PM)
Well I think your wrong, He knows Hockey, and he took Boston to the Stanley Cup back in the day. I would like to see him on TSN not CBC.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 29, 2005, 06:02:00 PM
QUOTE(jaroc @ Jul 29 2005, 02:14 AM)
Did anyone else find the title of this funny  laugh.gif
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 30, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
Well it's a new day so I have more news. Chris Pronger is most likey going to Flordia or Atlanta. Both teams have expressed intrest in him and he played with Mike Keenen (Spelling) in the past and Altanta needs a vertern to protect thier stars and add some leadership. As for buyouts Chris Gratton, Bobby Holik, Scott Lachance, Mathieu Biron and Matt Johnson have all been all bought out to save money. As for the Draft Brian Burke has the number 2 pick and the Canucks have expressed intrest in it offering Ed Jovanovski for the pick, Also St Louis has talked with Burke trying to send Chris Pronger there for the pick but have to get his (Prongers) premission and word that he will sign a multi year deal. The last team that wants the 2nd pick is the Avs the wanted to send either Milan Hejduk and/or Alex Tanguay to the Ducks for their pick. I can't wait to see how this one plays out.

It also looks like Tie Domi is out of Toronto and off to Pittsburgh Penguins. Also reports have Roberts going to Flordia and Joe Nieuwendyk to Dallas. So they (Leafs) can sign Adam Foote.

And yes jroc I did find HNIC funny it's the name of Prodigy's c.d. a classic album by the way
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on July 31, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
Well Keeping the thread up to date,

Trade Update:

To Toronto:
JEFF O'NEILL

To Carolina:
4'th Round Draft pick in 2006.

GO LEAFZ GO
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 31, 2005, 11:12:00 AM
Cant wait untill tomorrow. The FA signings begin.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on July 31, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
yeah i know i'm pumped (penguins)

where do you guys think some of bigger named players are gonna go?


the pens said they were gonna sign some name players which sure has me excited being used to them only giving up big name players

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 01, 2005, 04:38:00 PM
tongue.gif I hope Jeff O'Neil works out for Toronto after what happened to his brother, The one thing that pisses me off is the Leafs cut their tickets by a whoping 5% wow and no freebies whats up with that? Ottawa is at least giving out freebies such as jersey's and promo items throughout the first week of play. The Penguins have all ready sold triple the amount of season tickets as compared to 2 years ago.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 01, 2005, 05:05:00 PM
does detroit have enough money left under the cap to sign a big name player like fors or nas?

thomes08


ps.... c'mon pens make some moves i'm axious
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on August 01, 2005, 11:10:00 PM
Well Foote went to the Blue Jackets.

And now that Satan is a free agent i think we can all agree he NEEDS to go to the Devils.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 01, 2005, 11:53:00 PM
haha that would be a pretty good fit i guess... however i wouldn't mind the pens picking him up

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 02, 2005, 08:27:00 AM
damn i read that and got pretty excited but then heard that boston was the front runner for him.  I dunno i do want him but the pens already have have some old vets in lemieux and recchi so i'm not sure another would be smart.

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 02, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
Zigmund Palffy might end up in Toronto, Detroit or Flordia if the Kings don't sign him to a 3 year deal. Defence remains a concern in Toronto, though an offensive-minded type to run the Leafs' inconsistent power play could see a Sergei Gonchar like player.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on August 02, 2005, 10:09:00 AM
Hatcher and Rathje went to philly.

Edit: I dont think modano, would be good for Pits. They already have leaders.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 02, 2005, 03:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Spency234 @ Aug 2 2005, 01:43 PM)
Yeah you guys make a good point about the leadership, but I think all around Madano is just a better player then Satan.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 02, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Spency234 @ Aug 2 2005, 08:43 PM)
Yeah you guys make a good point about the leadership, but I think all around Madano is just a better player then Satan.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 02, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
yeah, i'm going to be confused when the season starts and i won't remember where everyone is playing now, but i'll know enough that it won't be that long before i'm used to it.

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hoogabooga on August 02, 2005, 09:06:00 PM
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Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 03, 2005, 10:58:00 AM
QUOTE(Hoogabooga @ Aug 2 2005, 10:17 PM)
Go redwings go, gotta love hockey and lacrosse love.gif
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 03, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
laugh.gif I don't see anything in their future maybe Peter Forsberg if they play their cards right
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 03, 2005, 02:51:00 PM
I just read that the Leafs lost Brain Leach to the Bruins. The Blue Jackets have signed Brain Berard. the Habs signed Mathieu Dandenault. It looks like Mike Modano is out of Dallas I reported that he was close to a deal but it looks like Chicago and Boston have offered him a four year deal worth $20 million and Dallas only offered 5 years at $17.5 million

Toronto has expressed intrest in Chris Osgood of St. Louis I say he should sign with Detroit again. The Leafs should have bought out Belfour when they had the chance.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 03, 2005, 05:12:00 PM
Sorry about all the posts or updates but Peter Forsberg is a Flyer now. They are over the cap and are looking to send Jeremy Roenick to the Kings. The Oliers have been busy trading Mike York and a conditional draft choice to the Islanders in exchange for Micheal Peca. Peca adds grit and is a great defensive minded foward who can dish out huge open ice hits. Thats it for now, hope this years season is a success
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on August 04, 2005, 05:19:00 AM
Damn..... its not confirmed but everywhere is saying neidermayer signed to the ducks with a 5yr 33mil contract so he can play with his brother.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 04, 2005, 08:08:00 AM
Blackhawks just got Lapointe

edit:  Martin Lapointe. not claude
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 04, 2005, 08:31:00 AM
yup... the ducks have both neidermayers

edit:  From TSN.CA "Mighty Ducks of Anaheim - Signed unrestricted free agent defenceman Scott Niedermayer. Re-signed restricted free agent forward Rob Niedermayer."
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 04, 2005, 09:11:00 AM
The Sabers signed Teppo Numminen. Also reports say that  Alexei Zhamnov is very close to signing a 3 year $12 million deal since Mike Modano resigned with the Dallas Stars. Thats all I know for now, I will keep you all updated.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 04, 2005, 11:50:00 AM
the Philadelphia Flyers have traded veteran centre Jeremy Roenick and a third round pick in the 2006 NHL Entry Draft to the Los Angeles Kings on Thursday in exchange for future considerations. Hmm it looks like the Kings might have a good team this year. All I can say is every team is even now except for a few exceptions. Can't wait till opening night 63 days away
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 05, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
Nikolai Khabibulin has signed with the Chicago Blackhawks at $6.75 million per season over the next 4 years. Also the Penguins have expressed intrest in Curtis Joesph I think this is a good move for the Red Wings to get rid of him. Also the Oilers, Sharks and Kings are all after Paul Kariya offering him a salery worth between $2.5 million to $3 million. The Oilers also said they would like to sign Mark Messier if they get Kariya. Brendon Morrison has resigned with the Canucks
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: jaroc on August 05, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
Did you guys see on the score, the interview with Talk 640 and Tie? I only saw the end bit wtf was that about?
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 05, 2005, 11:52:00 PM
wtf r u talking about?
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 06, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
QUOTE(thomes08 @ Aug 6 2005, 01:03 AM)
wtf r u talking about?
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 06, 2005, 02:11:00 PM
Colorado Avalanche - Re-signed restricted free agent forward Milan Hejduk.   (tsn.ca)
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 06, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
Pens sign Ziggy Palffy to 3 year deal!!!!!!!

Fuck yeah i'm so glad they signed another big name player


thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Andy51 on August 07, 2005, 09:39:00 PM
Hm.. I just found out about this topic....

Do you know that the Leafs are toying around with the signing of Eric Lindros? (Can't say his name correctly)

What you think guys? I think the Leafs need some really defense, they make way too much defense mistake last year... or whatever the last NHL season was?
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: SHiZNO on August 08, 2005, 12:12:00 PM
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Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 08, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
tsn.ca reports that Wayne Gretzky will be Pheonix's new head coach. Buffalo has reported that they have signed Mike Greir to a 1 year $1.4 million contract. He had 22 points in 68 games in 2003/2004. Columbis has also reported that they have signed Rick Nash to a 5 year $27 million contract.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 08, 2005, 05:39:00 PM
QUOTE(SHiZNO @ Aug 8 2005, 08:23 PM)
user posted image
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Andy51 on August 08, 2005, 08:53:00 PM
Hey guys... Is there any good free agents left? I'm wondering....
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 08, 2005, 09:17:00 PM
ya i was wondering if there was a site that had all the free agents on it and then which ones were left but i haven't stumbled across one yet

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Andy51 on August 09, 2005, 09:03:00 AM
QUOTE(thomes08 @ Aug 9 2005, 05:28 AM)
ya i was wondering if there was a site that had all the free agents on it and then which ones were left but i haven't stumbled across one yet
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 09, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
tsn.ca has annouced the fallowing, Chris Osgood is back with the Red Wings, Also Washington has signed Andrew Cassels it looks like Brendon Witt wants out of Washington now to joing a stanley cup calibur team. Kim Johnsson has resigned with the Flyers accepting a one year deal worth $2.2 million if any one wants to read anything else on the free agent frenzy here's the link http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 10, 2005, 05:49:00 PM
Pittsburgh Penguins - Acquired goaltender Jocelyn Thibault from the Chicago Blackhawks for a fourth round pick in the 2006 Entry Draft. Re-signed forward Kris Beech.
(From tsn.ca)

This is pretty cool, it's gonna be nice to have a good veteran goalie mentoring up-and-comming Marc Andre Fleury.  I'm happy as a pens fan anyways

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Andy51 on August 10, 2005, 06:37:00 PM
Looks like Eric Lindros may come to the Leafs... Personally I'm not impressed, the Leafs need some defense, and some young talent..
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 11, 2005, 08:28:00 AM
if he can stay healthy he's not a abd guy to have on your team, him and domi are tough mofo's and would make an interesting line together imo

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 11, 2005, 03:42:00 PM
thomes08  where you one of those crazy people that went out to see Sidney Crosby? Reports say that Joe Thorton has agreed on a 3 year $20 Million doller deal. I can't wait for the season to start
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Andy51 on August 11, 2005, 04:14:00 PM
ohmy.gif
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: TheODog on August 11, 2005, 07:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Andy51 @ Aug 11 2005, 07:25 PM)
Just in! the Leafs sign Eric Lindros!!!  ohmy.gif
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 11, 2005, 09:48:00 PM
sad.gif

i wish i could live with lemieux like he gets to though


thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Andy51 on August 12, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
He can be a good player, if he doesn't get hurt anymore.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 12, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
I say Eric Lindros I going to get in between 20-30 points this season. Somehow I feel Mario Lemieux is going to win the Art Roos trophy and also get the Hart. I see Sidney getting the Rookie of the Year and maybe either Palffy or Rick Nash getting the Rocket Richard trophy thats just my 2 cents anyway
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 12, 2005, 11:36:00 PM
QUOTE(XBL_SUCKS @ Aug 12 2005, 09:01 PM)
I say Eric Lindros I going to get in between 20-30 points this season. Somehow I feel Mario Lemieux is going to win the Art Roos trophy and also get the Hart. I see Sidney getting the Rookie of the Year and maybe either Palffy or Rick Nash getting the Rocket Richard trophy thats just my 2 cents anyway
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Andy51 on August 13, 2005, 07:50:00 AM
ohmy.gif
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 15, 2005, 01:21:00 PM
Man the Penguins have signed a nother goal scorer in John LeClair, Mentreal has resigned Saku Koivu. Here's the rest of the signings http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 15, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
i'm glad they got leclair..... don't think they're going to have to pay him too much cause of his buyout

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: SniperKilla on August 15, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
hjaha YES hockey is BACK here in pittsburgh baby.. we are STACKED this year.. taking the cup.. brining it back home.. been gone too long
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 17, 2005, 01:07:00 PM
Yes, Detroit finally is getting rid of Curtis Joesph's contract stupid Coyotes man he is going to be crap. All we need now is a good young right winger and 3rd or 4th line center and where stacked
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on August 17, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
Devils got Mogilny back.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 17, 2005, 03:24:00 PM
QUOTE(Hercules Q Einstein @ Aug 17 2005, 03:13 PM)
Devils got Mogilny back.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 23, 2005, 09:56:00 AM
The Ducks resigned Temu Selanne you can read about the signings here http://tsn.ca/nhl/
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: xbox beat box on August 24, 2005, 06:28:00 AM
Hossa traded for Heatley...bullshit

Fuckin Europeans
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 24, 2005, 05:02:00 PM
QUOTE(xbox beat box @ Aug 23 2005, 01:02 PM)
You did didnt you XBL_SUCKS.
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: thomes08 on August 29, 2005, 04:06:00 PM
sweet!!  The pens are keeping tarnsrtom for at least another eyar at 1.6 mil.  They have some sweet offensive defensman with him, gonchar, jackman, and whitney.  Hope the new rules and the penguins' tradition of all-offense will work out.

thomes08
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on August 31, 2005, 02:28:00 PM
grr.gif I guess I will have to see how it plays out this year
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: reidtheweed03 on September 01, 2005, 07:24:00 PM
id like to see ted ginn on the ice
Title: Nhl Is Back
Post by: jaroc on September 11, 2005, 02:04:00 PM
Has Steve Thomas signed with Toronto yet or what