Post by: psyberxian on November 11, 2004, 11:04:00 AM
-Psyber
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Post by: Ween311 on November 11, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
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From the poll itself. <
Post by: The unProfessional on November 11, 2004, 01:05:00 PM
CNN Internet Poll... gimme a break. <
Post by: thomes08 on November 11, 2004, 07:16:00 PM
even if it's not fake less than 5000 people voted, that's not accurate <
Post by: Heet on November 11, 2004, 08:55:00 PM
*I hope thats not where your getting your information psyber, but judging from the types of topics you post, im betting it is.
Post by: T-1200 on November 13, 2004, 07:19:00 AM
A missile struck the Pentagon, not a plane, FACT!!!
The 2nd plane that struck the twin tower was a cargo plane not a passenger plane, FACT!!! <
Post by: brandogg on November 13, 2004, 09:45:00 AM
Post by: Ronnie on November 15, 2004, 03:18:00 PM
I cant say a place hit the pentagon cus there is no evidence.I saw a fucking hole but lots of shit could do that...
Think for 1 minute.Were talking about the pentagon,the center of the US military,which is the most powerful and most funded in the world.
Couldnt they get a security camera installed?
And you must know by now that a steel building has never collapsed due to fire?You knew that was the primary cause given for the collapse right?
nearly 100 percent of the jet fuel was ignited outside of the building.You know that fireball,that was jet fuel,NOT burning on the INSIDE of the building.The smoke was black also a sign that the fire that was burning was ineffeciant.Also the people standing around the gaping holes were waving shirts and all kinds of things trying to signal for help.If there was a huge fire going on that was hot enough to melt steel then those people had to be some kind of mutants or maybe aliens,possibly mexicans to withstand the temperature of 2800°F.
All you have to do is look at evidence provided by third parties to see these things.I wouldnt trust any media to decide fact from fiction and neither should you.
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Post by: brandogg on November 15, 2004, 06:04:00 PM
Post by: The unProfessional on November 15, 2004, 07:22:00 PM
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Couldnt they get a security camera installed? And you must know by now that a steel building has never collapsed due to fire?You knew that was the primary cause given for the collapse right? |
Yeah... because security cameras shoot down rogue planes.
Also, steel buildings haven't collapsed due to fire. However, they also haven't been pumped full of jet fuel.... the hottest burning fuel used in combustion engines. Wake up. I believe it burns at roughly 2000-3000 degrees fahrenheit (correct me if I'm wrong).
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nearly 100 percent of the jet fuel was ignited outside of the building.You know that fireball,that was jet fuel,NOT burning on the INSIDE of the building.The smoke was black also a sign that the fire that was burning was ineffeciant.Also the people standing around the gaping holes were waving shirts and all kinds of things trying to signal for help.If there was a huge fire going on that was hot enough to melt steel then those people had to be some kind of mutants or maybe aliens |
Continuing to ramble on... making no sense. Making of numbers, etc.
Black smoke is generated when things like plaster, drywall, carpet, desks, walls, and the link are BURNING. It has nothing to do with efficiency. You're probably simply thinking about cars, and how they generate black smoke when they start to burn oil.
The planes did partially explode when they hit the building. However, their wings are filled to the brim with jet fuel. Do you honestly think that all the fuel (or even most of it) combused in an instant when the plane hit the building? Gimme a break.
It's also clear that you know nothing of metal working, chemistry, or physics for that matter. As materials heat up, and surpass temperatures specific to their characteristics, they soften. Metal doesn't immediately turn to liquid when heat is applied. Here in the real world, it would continue to soften under the relentless heat of thousands of gallons of burning jet fuel until it succumbed to the force of the floors above. It would take some time. In fact, the steel beams in the WTC were designed to withstand only a few hours of extreme heat. Even still, it clearly didn't live up to it's full potential.
Think... then type. It really does work.
Post by: Ronnie on November 15, 2004, 09:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (brandogg @ Nov 15 2004, 07:56 PM) |
| I belileve there is footage from the Pentagon available on the internet. If this was all a conspiracy, CNN would have reported it 3 years ago. Shut up, the conspiracies are ALL bull shit. No one has changed their mind on this based on your posting of pure crap, and no one will. Get a life and try to change the world in a positive way. |
What you believe is wrong.Youre a fucking tool.There is no tape dumbass. <
Post by: Ronnie on November 15, 2004, 08:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (The unProfessional @ Nov 15 2004, 10:25 PM) |
Yeah... because security cameras shoot down rogue planes. Also, steel buildings haven't collapsed due to fire. However, they also haven't been pumped full of jet fuel.... the hottest burning fuel used in combustion engines. Wake up. I believe it burns at roughly 2000-3000 degrees fahrenheit (correct me if I'm wrong). Continuing to ramble on... making no sense. Making of numbers, etc. Black smoke is generated when things like plaster, drywall, carpet, desks, walls, and the link are BURNING. It has nothing to do with efficiency. You're probably simply thinking about cars, and how they generate black smoke when they start to burn oil. The planes did partially explode when they hit the building. However, their wings are filled to the brim with jet fuel. Do you honestly think that all the fuel (or even most of it) combused in an instant when the plane hit the building? Gimme a break. It's also clear that you know nothing of metal working, chemistry, or physics for that matter. As materials heat up, and surpass temperatures specific to their characteristics, they soften. Metal doesn't immediately turn to liquid when heat is applied. Here in the real world, it would continue to soften under the relentless heat of thousands of gallons of burning jet fuel until it succumbed to the force of the floors above. It would take some time. In fact, the steel beams in the WTC were designed to withstand only a few hours of extreme heat. Even still, it clearly didn't live up to it's full potential. Think... then type. It really does work. |
No security cameras dont shoot anything but VIDEO!
And there isnt any like I said.
The fucking pentagon has not 1 damn security camera?Why dont you look at the fucking obvious shit right in your stupid face?
Hey smart guy...why dont you go get some gasoline and throw it on the ground then light it on fire.You know what happens??Its burns a hole straight to hell....um I mean it burns for like a few seconds then goes out.The same rules apply to jet fuel.
And as stated before most of the fuel exploded outside of the buildings.Even if 10,000 gallons of jet fuel were pooled up inside the towers it would burn up in 5 minutes.After that was gone it was just those other things burning like you said.those things couldnt heat up enough to melt steel.
When there is black smoke it means that a fire is starved for oxygen.Dont disagree unless you have some science to back you up.
JET FUEL BURNING OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway douche's,youre fools for not looking for the truth or the facts.
Keep thinking that the government is on your side and Ill keep writing my wish lists to Santa.
Post by: brandogg on November 15, 2004, 09:38:00 PM
Post by: brandogg on November 15, 2004, 09:41:00 PM
Post by: Ronnie on November 15, 2004, 09:48:00 PM
YOURE A LIAR,
There is no video.
You want me to believe someone on the XBOX scene forums has this one of a kind video and CNN or any fucking new channel hasnt shown it?BULL SHIT.
Like I said 10,000 gallons would burn in 5 minutes.
You fucking idiot.
So after that jet fuel was gone I guess you think the carpet was able to burn hot enough to melt the steel right?
I guess youre still in 5th grade or something and dont know how things are.
Certain things burn and melt and other things burn and turn to ash(everything else in the WTC besides the steel).Ash isnt hot.Ash wouldnt melt steel.I could put your trailor in a steel box and set it ablaze and it wouldnt melt that box.
Damn youre really stupid.
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Post by: The unProfessional on November 15, 2004, 08:45:00 PM
Post by: AkumAPRIME on November 15, 2004, 08:48:00 PM
not sure about conspiracy theories, but one things for sure, its POSSIBLE that they're real
ehb
Post by: Ronnie on November 15, 2004, 08:51:00 PM
Sorry Unprofessional shitty game maker 
Post by: The unProfessional on November 15, 2004, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: Ronnie on November 15, 2004, 08:55:00 PM
| QUOTE (AkumAPRIME @ Nov 15 2004, 11:51 PM) |
| You could sound WAY more credible if you wouldn't insult people. I know your avatar is an insulter, so Im not sure if thats what you're going for, but calling names doesnt convince anyone. not sure about conspiracy theories, but one things for sure, its POSSIBLE that they're real ehb |
Brandogg talks shit to everyone so I do the same to him.
I dont mean to insult people so much but Im not usually the first to start the name calling.Of course Ill always do it when I got to say something to brandogg.
And look at what people say to me...its not like Im just throwing shit at them and theyre sitting there ttaking it and being all nice about it,they reciprocate.
Post by: AkumAPRIME on November 15, 2004, 09:03:00 PM
ehb
Post by: brandogg on November 16, 2004, 10:17:00 AM
Post by: damam on November 16, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
Lets say for instance that explosives were used, They would have had to line most of the building with explosives to make sure they got explosives where the planes actually hit without raising suspicion, then somehow keep them from going off when the plane hit that section of the building, have them withstand a 1/2 an hour of extreme heat (even 5 minutes would be too long. ) then detonate???
whats the alternate theory here?
and there is a film of the plane, missile or something hitting the pentagon. I saw it too. Although it is really hard to tell exactly what it is, something clearly goes across the video and hits the pentagon.
heres to one page that has it - but i have seen it on several others as well
http://www.the7thfir...-Flight-77.html
Post by: Ronnie on November 16, 2004, 03:50:00 PM
| QUOTE (brandogg @ Nov 16 2004, 01:20 PM) |
| Ronnie, the video was posted in some "the Pentagon was hit by a missle" conspiracy thread. I'm not going to waste my time digging it up or bumping it. Just because you haven't seen things does not mean they don't exist. |
No it wasnt.There is no video.
I do however have the cure for cancer in a shoebox in my closet but i got other shit in there too and I dont wanna really move stuff around trying to get it.
ASSHOLIO
Post by: damam on November 16, 2004, 04:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ronnie @ Nov 17 2004, 12:53 AM) |
| No it wasnt.There is no video. |
read my post above - I gave you a direct link to a page that has the video on it
clearly somethin big is smashing into it
Post by: brandogg on November 16, 2004, 07:34:00 PM
Post by: Shoue on November 16, 2004, 08:14:00 PM
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| BTW project jihad sucks and no one will play it..... |
that project looks awesome dude what are you talking about?
As for the conspiracy theories.. um.. not really working for me. sorry.
Post by: damam on November 16, 2004, 08:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (brandogg @ Nov 17 2004, 04:37 AM) |
| That site does show the waek video ecidence, but the person writing that article is a dumbass. A missle is basically defined by any flying object, hence a plane is a missle. |
no arguement about the weak article - I wasnt endorsing it, I was just pointing out where the video could be seen
Is there a site tha has a better quality video? If so please post it. Thanks
Post by: Ronnie on November 16, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
| QUOTE (Shoue @ Nov 16 2004, 11:17 PM) |
| that project looks awesome dude what are you talking about? As for the conspiracy theories.. um.. not really working for me. sorry. |
Project Jihad is shitty.
You really wanna play a game like that?Quit being a cheap ass and get HALO 2.
No way this guy could make a game that is anywhere near the level of any good game put out by any game studio.
Yeah that got lots of money and my point is he should even try,it will suck.
WHAT VIDEO MAN???
I dont see it.the only thing I see about video is for the 9/11 Air Traffic Tapes.
Post by: The unProfessional on November 16, 2004, 09:52:00 PM
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No way this guy could make a game that is anywhere near the level of any good game put out by any game studio. Yeah that got lots of money and my point is he should even try,it will suck. |
The words of a man with no ambition or self worth. Perhaps independent scientists should stop researching cancer -- surely one of the large research organizations will develop one first.
And if you don't like my game, fine by me, don't play it. But stop whining like a school girl.
Post by: Ronnie on November 16, 2004, 10:58:00 PM
Ehh?
Yeah thats right,QUIT WHININIG!Im a cop you idiot!My name's John Kimble.
Anyway youre not looking for a cure for cancer,youre making a shitty ass game that cant compare to any good game made for the PSX let alone the XBOX.
I dont think there is another 30 old virgin living in his mom's basement like you looking for a cure for cancer on his imac.
Any group looking for cancer is still funded with government grants or getting help from normal people in some other way.
You just keep make shitty looking tanks.No one got a modchip to play homebrew games...did you think someone was serious when they told you that?
Post by: Ronnie on November 16, 2004, 11:09:00 PM
Sorry man.Forget I said anything about your project.
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on November 20, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (T-1200 @ Nov 20 2004, 05:52 AM) |
| http://www.questioni...Evil-of-911.wmv |
government coverup.... jeezus you conspiracy nuts are just... nutty.... to say the least...
just because it was a coincidence doesn't mean it was a "government coverup"...
sure Bush took advantage of 9/11 but he didn't cause it....
sure it does seem fishy and rather odd....
sure the government is probably plotting to kill us all...
BTW: i think unprofessional's project will be a great game....
seriously though... it was just a coincidence
EDIT: ah so i guess i was wrong lol
Post by: buckwheat on November 28, 2004, 08:17:00 PM
http://www.mindprod.com/bush911.html
The first links I posted states, with actual footage and audio as evidence, the following:
-47 Story WTC building 7 was "pulled" on the order of the owner Larry Silverstein (stated on the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds")
Post by: buckwheat on December 01, 2004, 08:15:00 PM
BBC knows more about the suspects than the FBI. I wonder If they'll even update their website.
Post by: T-1200 on December 02, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
The American Government are the most crooked bastards on the planet and there even framing Osama Bin-Laden for it.
Post by: buckwheat on December 02, 2004, 01:26:00 PM
| QUOTE (T-1200 @ Dec 2 2004, 02:23 PM) |
| The FBI are fucking cunts who along with Bush, CIA etc plotted 9/11 to use that as an excuse to start a war on terror. The American Government are the most crooked bastards on the planet and there even framing Osama Bin-Laden for it. |
I know Bush has had some dealings with the Bin Ladens in the past. I don't even think Osama is being framed. I think just as the American people are being deceived by their leaders, so are the Arabs.
Post by: Neg.Nance on December 02, 2004, 05:43:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ronnie @ Nov 15 2004, 11:30 PM) |
| No security cameras dont shoot anything but VIDEO! And there isnt any like I said. The fucking pentagon has not 1 damn security camera?Why dont you look at the fucking obvious shit right in your stupid face? Hey smart guy...why dont you go get some gasoline and throw it on the ground then light it on fire.You know what happens??Its burns a hole straight to hell....um I mean it burns for like a few seconds then goes out.The same rules apply to jet fuel. And as stated before most of the fuel exploded outside of the buildings.Even if 10,000 gallons of jet fuel were pooled up inside the towers it would burn up in 5 minutes.After that was gone it was just those other things burning like you said.those things couldnt heat up enough to melt steel. When there is black smoke it means that a fire is starved for oxygen.Dont disagree unless you have some science to back you up. JET FUEL BURNING OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway douche's,youre fools for not looking for the truth or the facts. Keep thinking that the government is on your side and Ill keep writing my wish lists to Santa. |
so im assuming that you burn thousands of gallons of jet fuel on a regular basis and know how long it takes, right
Post by: enderandrew on December 05, 2004, 09:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (T-1200 @ Dec 2 2004, 07:23 PM) |
| The FBI are fucking cunts who along with Bush, CIA etc plotted 9/11 to use that as an excuse to start a war on terror. The American Government are the most crooked bastards on the planet and there even framing Osama Bin-Laden for it. |
What about world governments that openly practice genocide and transmigration or slavery?
Everyone is so quick to point out how horrid this country is, and look over true villians in this world.
The fact that you draw parralels between conservatives and Nazi's demonstrates your ignorant, bigotrous, close-minded zealotry.
Extreme fundamentalists of any kind are wrong.
Post by: tupac on December 06, 2004, 09:03:00 AM
Post by: Arvarden on December 06, 2004, 09:20:00 AM
Waits for the "Chem trail" theory's
Post by: FektionFekler on December 06, 2004, 11:10:00 AM
Here are those same airliners minutes after entering New York.
Yes you saw correctly, the white house (and most of DC) doesn't exist anymore, anything you see reported by the media is actually hijacked transmissions being fed by Jonathans mother ship. Fortunately because of our plentiful supply of water, we were able to quickly defeat Jonathan.
Post by: tupac on December 06, 2004, 11:12:00 AM
Post by: FektionFekler on December 06, 2004, 01:54:00 PM
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Post by: tupac on December 07, 2004, 09:28:00 AM