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Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Ween311 on October 19, 2004, 12:56:00 PM
CNN.com

Wow...Just wow.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Arvarden on October 19, 2004, 02:51:00 PM
The re deployment of British troops south west of Baghdad is a more obvious election tatic by Bush and his cronies, thats if the commons vote's in favour of it.

Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: gcskate27 on October 19, 2004, 03:03:00 PM
well this should show people how well our allies think of the current administration...
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: brandogg on October 19, 2004, 03:18:00 PM
Because of a liberal newspaper in England? I don't think so.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: gcskate27 on October 19, 2004, 03:24:00 PM
im just saying its a pretty big clue... has this happened during any other election? maybe ive got an inside look as ive lived in england and still talk to many of my friends over there, but by talking to the people, england isnt exactly waht id call a strong* ally right now...

*as in 100% behind us, nothing to do with military or money...

This post has been edited by gcskate27 on Oct 19 2004, 10:25 PM
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Baner on October 19, 2004, 03:30:00 PM
Not sure we have any strong* allies anymore.
Gc what part of England did you live in?
I was born in Bridgend, Wales. About an .5 - 1.5 hours away from Cardiff(been awhile).
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: gcskate27 on October 19, 2004, 02:32:00 PM
in a few different places... i went to school at keele which is outside of stoke... ive also lived near sheffield in a town called chesterfield... and ive spent a fair ammount of time in liverpool... went ot wales on a day trip once...  laugh.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: dss311 on October 19, 2004, 03:58:00 PM
More influence from other countries.  Russia's Putin is now backing Bush.

http://www.sptimes.r...top/t_13963.htm

Who is next, Chirac?   smile.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: melon on October 20, 2004, 02:14:00 AM
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  in a few different places... i went to school at keele which is outside of stoke... ive also lived near sheffield in a town called chesterfield... and ive spent a fair ammount of time in liverpool... went ot wales on a day trip once... laugh.gif

I think im following you. Where about in Liverpool did you live?
I have lived in Sheffield for the last 5 years but was born in Liverpool and im moving back there in a couple of months. Ive even been on day trips to Wales wink.gif


Come on the Guardian may be left wing but so is most of this country. I think its funny. I buy the Guardian (alternate between a few newspapers), and it wasnt the most sensible thing to do but so what.
I was watching a news program this morning and they had a poll to see if the public supported the sending of more troops. 8000 people rang up and 86% did not want to send more troops.

Whats more disturbing is the quote from the bottom of the page of the link.
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"Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with you own worthless corner of it," wrote one from Texas.

I cant see why anyone in Britain would be offended by this......
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Arvarden on October 20, 2004, 09:04:00 AM
The US and Britain have very different ways of dealing with hostile situations.  The US steams in flattening anything it's path where as the brits think about what they are getting into before going off on a crusade of the just and righteous.

A good example was when a Iraqi threatened british troops with a AK, Us soldiers would have shot him dead.  The British troops steamed him with battons and gave him a good kicking.

 :jester:
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: gcskate27 on October 20, 2004, 10:14:00 PM
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Where about in Liverpool did you live?

some place called aigburth... went to school there a while as well... granted it wasnt that long but if youre an american over in england it doesnt take long for politics to pop into conversation...  laugh.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: bluedeath on October 22, 2004, 08:40:00 PM
QUOTE (Arvarden @ Oct 20 2004, 04:04 PM)
The US and Britain have very different ways of dealing with hostile situations.  The US steams in flattening anything it's path where as the brits think about what they are getting into before going off on a crusade of the just and righteous.

 So Britian's occupation of India never happened etc. etc.
the list goes on
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: estin on October 22, 2004, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE (dss311 @ Oct 20 2004, 12:01 AM)
More influence from other countries.  Russia's Putin is now backing Bush.

http://www.sptimes.r...top/t_13963.htm

Who is next, Chirac?   smile.gif

yeah thats a complement. did you know he now controlls the media over there? seems things are heading back to the communist ways.  what a great backing for bush.  altho i'm sure they'd get along great, that have the same goal.  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and controll.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: elfey1 on October 22, 2004, 07:52:00 PM
HEY MELON AN GCSKATE, we should have a game on kai some time as wee all live in the same area, im live in sheffield smile.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Arvarden on October 22, 2004, 08:55:00 PM
"So Britian's occupation of India never happened etc. etc.
the list goes on"

If you want to debate past war crimes go ahead and make another thread but at present it is world wide known fact that the US is being very heavy handed in Iraq to say the least.

Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: bluedeath on October 22, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
QUOTE (Arvarden @ Oct 23 2004, 03:55 AM)
"So Britian's occupation of India never happened etc. etc.
the list goes on"

If you want to debate past war crimes go ahead and make another thread but at present it is world wide known fact that the US is being very heavy handed in Iraq to say the least.

It really is sad how the British spines have jellied over the past fifty years.  What happened to the Empire?  Nothing but a bunch of teary eyed school girls.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: estin on October 22, 2004, 10:54:00 PM
rotfl.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: bluedeath on October 23, 2004, 01:21:00 PM
We should have let the Natzis have Europe.  The way things are going in East Germany right now that still may be an option.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: total_ass on October 23, 2004, 01:27:00 PM
QUOTE (bluedeath @ Oct 23 2004, 08:24 PM)
We should have let the Natzis have Europe.  The way things are going in East Germany right now that still may be an option.

you really are a twat.

sorry but its true.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: melon on October 23, 2004, 06:01:00 PM
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It really is sad how the British spines have jellied over the past fifty years. What happened to the Empire? Nothing but a bunch of teary eyed school girls.


What did the empire get us? Hated all over the world.

It is so obvious you think its funny to wind people up to spark a reaction I'm not going to lower myself to your level.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: estin on October 23, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
QUOTE (melon @ Oct 24 2004, 02:04 AM)

What did the empire get us? Hated all over the world.

It is so obvious you think its funny to wind people up to spark a reaction I'm not going to lower myself to your level.

i totally agree. i think everyone should just stop acknowledging bluedeath's comments altogether.  they have no merit.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: gcskate27 on October 23, 2004, 10:12:00 PM
but he was a MARINE! you have no idea what it was like... nacyboy...

</sarcasm>
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: estin on October 23, 2004, 10:20:00 PM
thats right, i keep forgetting that.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: bluedeath on October 24, 2004, 11:59:00 AM
you will all get your chance soon enough.  The thought of loading up the war machine with worthless young men like yourselves and cleaning the gene pool at the same time gives me a chubby.  Our DNA has become so tainted by the weak that we need to kill them off in mass.  Thank God for war.  Like a spring rain washing away the winter filth.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: The unProfessional on October 24, 2004, 12:52:00 PM
uhh.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: melon on October 24, 2004, 02:00:00 PM
Its funny because everyone knows the SAS or the SBS would crush the US marines, the US standing for Utterely Shite.

All US marines are jumped up muppets whose only brain cells belong to the regiment pet.

Your posts are proof that if you stick a monkey in front of a computer long enough.................
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: bluedeath on October 24, 2004, 08:11:00 PM
QUOTE (iranhasblts @ Oct 24 2004, 10:07 PM)
Melon you are a fucking idiot. The marines are a fucking branch of the military not a unit. Yes SAS is one of the most skilled and well equiped tactical fighting units out there, but so are the Marine RECON, the Navy SEALS, Army Delta Force, Army Green Barrets. Anyway the best fighting unit period is still the Waffen-SS. Too bad France ass raped Germany, and now has them pussy whipped.

The Russians ass raped all of Europe.  Certainly Germany.  I am thoroughly enjoying Putin's tactics.  His latest scam fronting actual Chechens with KGB in that school takeover was beautiful.  They actually executed the kids.  I love to watch a master at work.  He has successfully turned the tide on the Russian Mafia and turned oil futures into one of Russia's most lucrative investments.  Watching Putin at work gives me a Semi.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: estin on October 24, 2004, 09:50:00 PM
QUOTE (The unProfessional @ Oct 24 2004, 08:55 PM)
Don't you mean a fall rain washing away the summer filth?   uhh.gif

ah well, he quotes things just about as well as his fearless leader president bush.  i'd swear he's almost bush's offspring.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: bluedeath on October 24, 2004, 10:07:00 PM
QUOTE (estin @ Oct 25 2004, 05:53 AM)
ah well, he quotes things just about as well as his fearless leader president bush.  i'd swear he's almost bush's offspring.

I do not mean a fall rain.  Hasn't anyone lived where it snows?  The grime from city snow is never completely cleaned off until the spring rains.  Morons.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: The unProfessional on October 24, 2004, 10:52:00 PM
Actually I grew up where it snowed, and snowed alot.  It was seldom very grungy at the end of the winter.  Melting snow pretty much took all the mixed-in nastiness with it.  Then again, if by filth you mean a little dirt, I suppose you make sense.  But I also didn't live in a big city with the accompanying human-added garbage everywhere.

I don't think you're capable of writing a post without including ridicule.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: bluedeath on October 25, 2004, 01:23:00 AM
QUOTE (The unProfessional @ Oct 25 2004, 06:55 AM)
I don't think you're capable of writing a post without including ridicule.

Don't patronize me.  You attempt to act like some kind of King Solomon and guess what...

They are not going to make you a mod.  I have seen you campaigning and all of the edited wisdom you can muster wont get you there.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: The unProfessional on October 25, 2004, 02:29:00 AM
what in the hell are you talking about...
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Baner on October 25, 2004, 11:03:00 AM
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France ass raped Germany

Did everyone miss that? The only wat France would have ass raped Germany is if the German Soldiers were allergic to white flags.
Estin, I've yet to see an intelligent and on-topic post by you in the Politics, News and Religion forums.
Melon, I agree, the SAS would rape any special forces group America, and many other nations for that matter, tossed at them.
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Anyway the best fighting unit period is still the Waffen-SS.

"you are a fucking idiot"
$20 says I could defeat the Waffen-SS with a toothpick and a swis army knife that's equiped with a usb drive (wtf were they thinking), considering they were already defeated a good 60 years back.

So much ammo, so little time biggrin.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Baner on October 25, 2004, 11:55:00 AM
Wait, that was suppose to support this? "France ass raped Germany"
None of that has to do with France defeating Germany... It states that France has and is scared of Germany. If you really want to post a whole bunch of crap that everyone knows, go right ahead. Too bad it's not proving your point to say the least.
Did you mean France got ass raped by Germany?
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: melon on October 25, 2004, 03:07:00 PM
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Melon you are a fucking idiot. The marines are a fucking branch of the military not a unit. Yes SAS is one of the most skilled and well equiped tactical fighting units out there, but so are the Marine RECON, the Navy SEALS, Army Delta Force, Army Green Barrets. Anyway the best fighting unit period is still the Waffen-SS. Too bad France ass raped Germany, and now has them pussy whipped.

Firstly i was taking the piss I couldnt give a fuck whose soldiers are hardest, only idiots care so they can go yeah are country rules and kicks ass yeah!!


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who was actually the best off of all the countries in Europe, since none of the battles took place within its boarders

Try England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Israel, Im pretty sure you can include a shit load of other countries as well. Why dont you look it up in some history books.

And due to our Empire at the time there was no doubt we were the best off country.


You talk absolute bullshit and constantly confuse WWI and WWII

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Anyway France didn't want the Berlin Wall to be dismantled because they were afraid that if Germany were to reunite that they would become too nationalistic and would ultimately embrace Nazism
You are talking out of your arse!

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(actually 4 if I recall correctly, USA, Brit, France, and the rest USSR)
actually 2, the US, UK and France were a coallition.

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many historians argue that Hitler was the best thing to ever happen to Germany
uhh.gif

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West Germany has been democratic for only 50 years or so

Again complete bullshit!

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You also might find it somewhat surprising how one could actually link France to just about every major fuckup in the history of the modern world: Africa, Canada, Vietnam, and World War II just to name a few, this of course due to France's bullshit attempts at foreign policy.


Africa is the fault of most western countries, it is crippled by debt and repayments to institutes like the IMF.

A few Canadians will want an explanation to why there country is a fuck up.

France were at war with Vietnam before America but who was responsible for 4 MILLION deaths? It was America in case you didnt know.

World War II ??????????

The ongoing situation in Africa and the Vietnam conflict were worsened by American involvment.

Little boy a lot of people on this forum are very educated and know a lot about history. Virtually all of what you wrote is factually incorrect, your post was so full of holes and ill logic it was quite frankly embarrassing. I shouldnt be this harsh on you because it is obvious you are about twelve but you exude arrogance that what youre saying is correct. You obviously dont listen in history class and if you do you should sack your teacher for teaching you bullshit.


edit: spot the retarded mistake of including Israel
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: iranhasblts on October 27, 2004, 10:47:00 AM
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Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: melon on October 27, 2004, 12:51:00 PM
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(Ireland still has yet to receive home rule)?

I can assure you this is incorrect as half my family is from County Wicklow.
Obviously you will know more than me about this though. Maybe you were thinking of Northern Ireland not Eire which has the Euro as currency and a completely independent Government? I could be wrong its not like my mum is Irish or anything, oh i forgot she is!


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Firstly i was taking the piss I couldnt give a fuck whose soldiers are hardest, only idiots care so they can go yeah are country rules and kicks ass yeah!!

rotfl.gif You have to be jse. Only idiots are proud of their country? Only idiots die so that others can enjoy the freedoms they did while living in their country? You sound like an ungrateful little prick, whose mind is weak and easily swayed by various conspiracy theories. I also it is funny how you call me arrogant yet you feel your opinion is absolute; you my friend are an asshole.


When did America or Britain last fight because it had to? WWII (unless you count Falklands for us but thats debatable). No soldier in Iraq is dying to save my life or preserve my freedom because Iraq was not a risk to either of our countries.
Anyway I didnt even slag off the army. I slagged off people who are a bit obsessed with the military, people like yourself who are proud because you think the marines are the hardest or brits who are like SAS kicks ass or whatever.

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Or not. France is so scared of Germany (especially after the France-Prussian War) that they will do everything in their power to make sure they do not become a super power again. That included the dividing Berlin into 4 parts (yes for you fucking idiot, 1 half comprised of the Allies (UK, USA, France), the other of the USSR), and approving the Soviet's erection of the Berlin Wall. It feels good being right.

You talk in the present tense, France is now a close Ally of Germany and Europe has largely forgiven it for its past crimes.
Sorry but my memory is a bit blurry I forget if Germany was once known as East Germany and West Germany? It might of been North, East, South, and West Germany????
It was split in 2 if you cant grasp this there is no hope for you. It had two football teams and two Governments.
Russia was the enemy after WWII why would France approve anything they done.

I would love you to back up any of what your saying because it is so much bullshit

here is a few links read up then come back and admit you talk out of your arse.
http://www.firstworl..._off_(1600).jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk...ailles_01.shtml

you will see you are wrong about germany being overly burdened after the war, and i should point out that no troops landed on british soil during the war, and since Ireland is still Europe you are proven wrong again.

I havent even touche on Africa, Vietnam, Canada???

and just because I am anti-you does not mean I am anti-american.


I cant be arsed debating with you because nothing you say has any merit.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: moistness on October 27, 2004, 07:35:00 PM
QUOTE (iranhasblts @ Oct 27 2004, 10:21 PM)


I stand by my remarks, if you look at France's past actions towards Germany you will see that it is out of fear

Yup, france historically bends over and spreads its arse cheeks at the slightest hint of trouble!! Beacause of this, us brits had to bomb the shit out of a few of their ships when the nazis made them try to attack us,even though we gave them every chance to back the fuck off and go home so we could help them out!! Its one of the main reasons they dislike us!! wink.gif They should think themselves lucky they had a resistance movement that saw sense and worked with us to get them out of the shit they got themselves into in the first place!! rolleyes.gif

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To my knowledge Ireland still, to this day, does not have home-rule (only the limited one, granted to them in the Government of Ireland Act of 1920). If I recall correctly Sinn Fein rejected it, and continued to support the IRA in its campaign for a united Irish republic.


Sorry iran, but Eire does have its own government, the deal with england was to let ireland have the southern bit (Eire), but for England to continue to rule the northern part, which obviously they werent too pleased about, hence sinn fein rejecting it and continuing the fight for a united irish republic with the IRA terroritsts bombing the living shit out of us for years after!! The treaty still stood even though not recognised by sinn fein. Dont tell me you havent seen michael collins?  tongue.gif   http://www2.cruzio.c...tt/mcollins.htm

Keep it clenched!! beerchug.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: estin on October 27, 2004, 07:44:00 PM
QUOTE (Baner @ Oct 25 2004, 07:06 PM)
Estin, I've yet to see an intelligent and on-topic post by you in the Politics, News and Religion forums.


glad i could help.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: melon on October 28, 2004, 10:12:00 AM
Has anyone noticed how Iranhasbits edits his posts to change what he says when i pull him up??
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: bluedeath on October 28, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE (melon @ Oct 28 2004, 06:15 PM)
Has anyone noticed how Iranhasbits edits his posts to change what he says when i pull him up??

I haven't seen nemt for a while.  Is it him?
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Baner on October 28, 2004, 12:32:00 PM
No, the relations isn't close enough, nemt wouldn't quote that much.
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: melon on October 28, 2004, 02:05:00 PM
sad.gif

we can but live on.

Bush is gay and shags devil worshipers and is actually a clone of his dad the CIA created, i have seen all this on a website so its true but i havnt got a link and you cant prove me wrong wink.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: moistness on October 28, 2004, 02:29:00 PM
QUOTE (melon @ Oct 28 2004, 05:15 PM)
Has anyone noticed how Iranhasbits edits his posts to change what he says when i pull him up??

Nope, not me, didnt notice a thing! unsure.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: moistness on October 28, 2004, 02:31:00 PM
QUOTE (bluedeath @ Oct 28 2004, 07:29 PM)
I haven't seen nemt for a while.  Is it him?

Absolutely not! wink.gif
Title: Brits Trying To Influence Elections
Post by: Intensecure on October 31, 2004, 06:18:00 AM
QUOTE (iranhasblts @ Oct 28 2004, 11:52 PM)

rolleyes.gif You got me, how did you know?

EDIT: foaj30asdjfdlsdfa3asf

This one hasn't even the intelligence to pretend to be nemt.
Shame, I really liked that opinionated half-wit!
This one is no good at all laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif