Post by: krawhitham on June 16, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
this is for MVP baseball 2005 but should work with any EA games that uses XSH files
I would perfer a command line program but at this point I'm not to picky
here is a image of what needs deswizzled
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=2461431
Post by: UnReAlMaCk on June 16, 2005, 11:35:00 AM
just wondering if this tool has already been created?
p.s krawhitham
im sure they will be releasing a swizzled/unswizzle tool for GTA SA, so you can check that out to!
Post by: krawhitham on June 16, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
Post by: yardguy00 on June 16, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
hope it works for you
http://forums.maxcon...hp?postid=24128
please go to ninjahacker.net for your donation
Post by: krawhitham on June 18, 2005, 10:30:00 AM
QUOTE(yardguy00)
please go to ninjahacker.net for your donation
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: brienj on June 18, 2005, 12:16:00 PM
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Search on Google for a program called The Compressonator.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on June 18, 2005, 01:52:00 PM
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Hey Yardyguy, that Swizzle program that comes with the doau trainer, i think it really is crap, it odesnt work for me, at all. Ask magus about a deswizzling program, he does a lot with screenshot stuff.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: krawhitham on June 29, 2005, 01:23:00 AM
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Post by: brienj on June 18, 2005, 12:16:00 PM
Post by: BILLS on June 18, 2005, 01:52:00 PM
Post by: krawhitham on June 29, 2005, 01:23:00 AM
QUOTE(Kazaki @ Jun 29 2005, 01:14 AM)
Must you unswizzle the MVP graphics from the Xbox?
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: brienj on June 29, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
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Yes, it would be very helpful if we had a sample graphic to work with.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: krawhitham on July 01, 2005, 03:39:00 AM
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Post by: brienj on June 29, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
Post by: krawhitham on July 01, 2005, 03:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Instigator @ Jun 29 2005, 06:37 PM)
Is PNG the native image format for MVP, or was it converted from something else?
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Keshire on July 01, 2005, 05:53:00 AM
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I was doing some research myself into this for fable.
Came up with this. Haven't messed with it yet.
http://playstation2-...ects/ezswizzle/
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Zdemon29958 on July 01, 2005, 11:46:00 PM
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A tool like that would help all game hackers
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: cypher35 on July 05, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
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After working woth soul calibur for so long, i've come to realize that there are many different types of what people refer to as "swizzled/unswizzled".
Seeing as i'm out of a job and up to my ears in legal fees, i wouldn't mind taking on the challenge... But if someone here is going to crack this format, the first thing we'll need it a picture of what this image is *supposed* to look like. (screenshot from the game, etc...) I'll also need the file itself as opposed to a screenshot of it.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on July 11, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
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yea guess so, but others havent, it would still be nice to have
Are you gonna jump into cypher? We kinda need a decent de-swizzler at wp's place, maybe i can ask magus....or boss to try to wip up something.....
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: cypher35 on July 14, 2005, 01:40:00 AM
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perfect. i'll take a look at them.
also, if you don't mind me being a little picky, is it possible to get an example with a bit more color variation? when it's only a couple shades of grey/green and white it's hard to tell exactly how it was swizzled...
[EDIT]
these look fairly simple... i think with a slight modification to my sc2 image unswizzler, i should be able to pull something off.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: cypher35 on July 14, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
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well, after my first try i came up with a strange result, but i think i'm on the right track.
check it out:
it's not completely unscrambled, but it's getting there...
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Zdemon29958 on July 15, 2005, 02:46:00 AM
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Woah, that is good!
Here is one for Grand Theft Auto San Andreas:
What it is supposed to look like on PC:
The swizzled image on xbox:
I open them with txdworkshop, download it here if you want.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: cypher35 on July 15, 2005, 12:49:00 PM
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Post by: Keshire on July 01, 2005, 05:53:00 AM
Came up with this. Haven't messed with it yet.
http://playstation2-...ects/ezswizzle/
Post by: Zdemon29958 on July 01, 2005, 11:46:00 PM
Post by: cypher35 on July 05, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
Seeing as i'm out of a job and up to my ears in legal fees, i wouldn't mind taking on the challenge... But if someone here is going to crack this format, the first thing we'll need it a picture of what this image is *supposed* to look like. (screenshot from the game, etc...) I'll also need the file itself as opposed to a screenshot of it.
Post by: BILLS on July 11, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
Are you gonna jump into cypher? We kinda need a decent de-swizzler at wp's place, maybe i can ask magus....or boss to try to wip up something.....
Post by: cypher35 on July 14, 2005, 01:40:00 AM
also, if you don't mind me being a little picky, is it possible to get an example with a bit more color variation? when it's only a couple shades of grey/green and white it's hard to tell exactly how it was swizzled...
[EDIT]
these look fairly simple... i think with a slight modification to my sc2 image unswizzler, i should be able to pull something off.
Post by: cypher35 on July 14, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
check it out:
it's not completely unscrambled, but it's getting there...
Post by: Zdemon29958 on July 15, 2005, 02:46:00 AM
Here is one for Grand Theft Auto San Andreas:
What it is supposed to look like on PC:
The swizzled image on xbox:
I open them with txdworkshop, download it here if you want.
Post by: cypher35 on July 15, 2005, 12:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Zdemon29958 @ Jul 15 2005, 04:57 AM)
Woah, that is good!
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Horscht on July 15, 2005, 12:56:00 PM
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well, it probably has to do with the fact that the first pic is from the PC-version therefore having a higher resolution than the xbox one.
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Post by: Zdemon29958 on July 15, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
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All gta xbox images are compressed. That's how the game uses it.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on July 17, 2005, 09:48:00 AM
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good job cypher
Up to usual bussiness i see
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: krawhitham on July 17, 2005, 11:53:00 AM
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Post by: Horscht on July 15, 2005, 12:56:00 PM
Post by: Zdemon29958 on July 15, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
Post by: BILLS on July 17, 2005, 09:48:00 AM
Up to usual bussiness i see
Post by: krawhitham on July 17, 2005, 11:53:00 AM
QUOTE(cypher35 @ Jul 15 2005, 08:57 PM)
Success! i figured out the only reason that the image unswizzled strangely the first time was because the row order was reversed on the original file...
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: cypher35 on July 17, 2005, 05:11:00 PM
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Cool, i'll get to work on a swizzling/unswizzling utility...
I need to find some documentation on the bmp file format so that the app can auto-detect 24bpp vs 32bpp as well as the "reverse row order" tag that caused me problems before. After that's done it's simply a matter of writing an algorythm that does the exact opposite of the one i've already written.
I may be a little busy over the next few days, but i'll see if i can get a command line app with wildcard support and all that fun stuff by the end of the week.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on July 17, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
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Post by: cypher35 on July 17, 2005, 05:11:00 PM
I need to find some documentation on the bmp file format so that the app can auto-detect 24bpp vs 32bpp as well as the "reverse row order" tag that caused me problems before. After that's done it's simply a matter of writing an algorythm that does the exact opposite of the one i've already written.
I may be a little busy over the next few days, but i'll see if i can get a command line app with wildcard support and all that fun stuff by the end of the week.
Post by: BILLS on July 17, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
QUOTE(cypher35 @ Jul 17 2005, 08:22 PM)
Cool, i'll get to work on a swizzling/unswizzling utility...
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: NAMA on July 18, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
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Post by: NAMA on July 18, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
QUOTE(aruaru @ Jul 18 2005, 09:13 PM)
If it helps you or anyone else.... here's some code I wrote for a texture editing util for NFSU... never released the XBOX version though. Sorry for the VB code... It will need some modification as CTpkTexture is a class that's used for NFSU textures, but the property names should be enough to explain what data is needed. "Swizzle" and "Unswizzle" are the main functions, "SwizBlock" and "UnswizBlock" are just helpers.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: NAMA on July 18, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
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ok, i got some time to modify proge to handle bmp. and here is the result
original:
unswizzled:
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: aruaru on July 18, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
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It will need some modification as CTpkTexture is a class that's used for NFSU textures, but the property names should be enough to explain what data is needed. "Swizzle" and "Unswizzle" are the main functions, "SwizBlock" and "UnswizBlock" are just helpers.Post by: NAMA on July 18, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
original:
unswizzled:
Post by: aruaru on July 18, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
QUOTE(NAMA @ Jul 18 2005, 05:41 PM)
Are you sure the code was written by you or it's not converted from C/C++?
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: themewin on July 18, 2005, 03:19:00 PM
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Post by: themewin on July 18, 2005, 03:19:00 PM
QUOTE(cypher35 @ Jul 18 2005, 01:22 AM)
Cool, i'll get to work on a swizzling/unswizzling utility...
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Drilus on July 18, 2005, 07:38:00 PM
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there's a big different between visual basic and batch scripting.
that's not the full code anyway. he provided as an example to others on how it swizzling/unswizzling might be done.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: brienj on July 18, 2005, 10:58:00 PM
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I think it's VERY ironic that such an AWESOME program will be made, because of such a POS game.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: guido on July 19, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Hardcore Legend on July 19, 2005, 09:06:00 AM
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Post by: Drilus on July 18, 2005, 07:38:00 PM
that's not the full code anyway. he provided as an example to others on how it swizzling/unswizzling might be done.
Post by: brienj on July 18, 2005, 10:58:00 PM
I think it's VERY ironic that such an AWESOME program will be made, because of such a POS game.
Post by: guido on July 19, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
Post by: Hardcore Legend on July 19, 2005, 09:06:00 AM
QUOTE(guido @ Jul 19 2005, 04:57 PM)
MVP a POS game? Are you kidding me? Maybe you don't like sports games or something.. but with some datafile mods this is one of the best baseball games out there.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: brienj on July 19, 2005, 09:49:00 AM
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But hey, if you love Baseball, I guess you'd prolly like the game. I always wanted a swizzle/unswizzle app to be made, and finally it looks like there will be one made. It was such a pain trying to make one myself, and now I don't have to. So thanks to all the people that put money out there to get others motivated to make the program.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on July 19, 2005, 06:37:00 PM
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too bad, when DOAU was being looked into at the Hiveq we could never really use the swizzled screenshots of skins too effectively, now that part of the scene is out of commision, it doesnt really matter , for now.......
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: cypher35 on July 19, 2005, 11:13:00 PM
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Also, one minor note. I have not encountered any swizzled images that have either:
1) a width greater than 2x it's height
2) a height greater than it's width
Due to the nature of the method for swizzling images, every swizzled image comes out as a horizontal rectangle or a perfect square. However, in the event that an oddly sized file comes along, i have had to guess how to handle it. It should work, but if you find that the program is producing strange results with images meeting the above criteria, let me know and send me an example file so i can fix the problem.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: themewin on July 19, 2005, 11:18:00 PM
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Hardcore Legend on July 20, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
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Well, I think I've got the hang of it, but it tells me on every BMP that it is unable to open them.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: cypher35 on July 20, 2005, 12:47:00 PM
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did you read the readme file?
if you are getting a "file not found error"
the filename needs to be in quotes if it is more than one word.
if it says "unable to open file"
make sure the file is not open in another application.
if it's still unable to open it, send me the bitmap so i can figure out the problem.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Hardcore Legend on July 20, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
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I figured it out. Well, not really but I put it in a batch file and it worked that time. Works to perfection. You've done a bang up job.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Zdemon29958 on July 21, 2005, 07:50:00 AM
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Zdemon
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: darkblizzard on July 21, 2005, 10:32:00 PM
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any update if anyone plans to share the wealth? we can make some very good mods with it..
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Keshire on July 25, 2005, 11:30:00 PM
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www.rapidshare.de
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: krawhitham on July 26, 2005, 01:23:00 AM
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Post by: brienj on July 19, 2005, 09:49:00 AM
But hey, if you love Baseball, I guess you'd prolly like the game. I always wanted a swizzle/unswizzle app to be made, and finally it looks like there will be one made. It was such a pain trying to make one myself, and now I don't have to. So thanks to all the people that put money out there to get others motivated to make the program.
Post by: BILLS on July 19, 2005, 06:37:00 PM
too bad, when DOAU was being looked into at the Hiveq we could never really use the swizzled screenshots of skins too effectively, now that part of the scene is out of commision, it doesnt really matter , for now.......
Post by: cypher35 on July 19, 2005, 11:13:00 PM
CODE
swizzle.exe - written by cypher35 on 7-19-05
================================================================
This is a simple bitmap swizzling utility that i have created
in my spare time. This program was created for educational
purposes and what you do with it is your own business.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Useage:
swizzle [filename.ext] -s -u -inplace
Parameters:
-s swizzles the image(s) selected (default)
-u unswizzles the image(s) selected
-inplace swizzles or unswizzles the files in place, deleting
the original file
if the filename is one or more word, put it in quotes.
wildcards are accepted (ex. *.bmp)
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if -inplace is not added, the images will simply be renamed
with a _uns or _swi appended to them. No files will be
overwritten. If a file with the same name already exists in
the current directory, a number is appended to the name.
================================================================
This is a simple bitmap swizzling utility that i have created
in my spare time. This program was created for educational
purposes and what you do with it is your own business.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Useage:
swizzle [filename.ext] -s -u -inplace
Parameters:
-s swizzles the image(s) selected (default)
-u unswizzles the image(s) selected
-inplace swizzles or unswizzles the files in place, deleting
the original file
if the filename is one or more word, put it in quotes.
wildcards are accepted (ex. *.bmp)
----------------------------------------------------------------
if -inplace is not added, the images will simply be renamed
with a _uns or _swi appended to them. No files will be
overwritten. If a file with the same name already exists in
the current directory, a number is appended to the name.
Also, one minor note. I have not encountered any swizzled images that have either:
1) a width greater than 2x it's height
2) a height greater than it's width
Due to the nature of the method for swizzling images, every swizzled image comes out as a horizontal rectangle or a perfect square. However, in the event that an oddly sized file comes along, i have had to guess how to handle it. It should work, but if you find that the program is producing strange results with images meeting the above criteria, let me know and send me an example file so i can fix the problem.
Post by: themewin on July 19, 2005, 11:18:00 PM
Post by: Hardcore Legend on July 20, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
Post by: cypher35 on July 20, 2005, 12:47:00 PM
if you are getting a "file not found error"
the filename needs to be in quotes if it is more than one word.
if it says "unable to open file"
make sure the file is not open in another application.
if it's still unable to open it, send me the bitmap so i can figure out the problem.
Post by: Hardcore Legend on July 20, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
Post by: Zdemon29958 on July 21, 2005, 07:50:00 AM
Zdemon
Post by: darkblizzard on July 21, 2005, 10:32:00 PM
Post by: Keshire on July 25, 2005, 11:30:00 PM
Post by: krawhitham on July 26, 2005, 01:23:00 AM
QUOTE(cypher35 @ Jul 26 2005, 07:02 AM)
as i said before, i've given copies to both Kazaki and krawhitham and they can share the app if they feel like it...
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Keshire on July 26, 2005, 02:50:00 AM
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Post by: Keshire on July 26, 2005, 02:50:00 AM
QUOTE(krawhitham @ Jul 26 2005, 03:34 AM)
Yeah I have not figured that out yet, I started the thread willing to pay $75 for a program I wanted, someone else comes along and offers $20 and he gets a copy of a program I paid $75 for
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on July 26, 2005, 11:03:00 AM
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Post by: BILLS on July 26, 2005, 11:03:00 AM
QUOTE(cypher35 @ Jul 26 2005, 02:02 AM)
as i said before, i've given copies to both Kazaki and krawhitham and they can share the app if they feel like it...
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: themewin on July 26, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
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Well, as you can see it's already hosted somewhere...
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on July 26, 2005, 08:03:00 PM
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mmm, ud have to ask cypher bout that..BTW, im hosting it at my site also
http://therockerscab...dex.php?act=idx
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Keshire on July 26, 2005, 10:16:00 PM
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Post by: themewin on July 26, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
Post by: BILLS on July 26, 2005, 08:03:00 PM
http://therockerscab...dex.php?act=idx
Post by: Keshire on July 26, 2005, 10:16:00 PM
QUOTE(cypher35 @ Jul 27 2005, 12:21 AM)
Sorry dude, i'm not trying to cheat you. I guess i just misunderstood your request.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on July 26, 2005, 10:51:00 PM
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oh shite...woops Now i got a copy of the program also.. and its on my site.."clean up on aisle 12" little bit of a mess no, biggie, ithink
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Vampyr_X on August 05, 2005, 05:05:00 AM
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This program looks cool, does it work with grand theft auto san andreas textures?
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: Potman on June 22, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
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sry for replying this old thread,
but is there a new swizzle/unswizzle tool available with better stuff and easier to work with?
i havent been able to figure out how to make the tool here work.
man, need a stable tool for gta sa.
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Title: Need A Bmp Swizzle/unswizzle Util
Post by: BILLS on June 23, 2006, 05:28:00 PM
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gta sa? Did you check their forum? There were a few unswizzle apps released at that old GTA site..
Anyway, this unswizzler is for this baseball game not gta.
Post by: BILLS on July 26, 2005, 10:51:00 PM
Now i got a copy of the program also.. and its on my site.."clean up on aisle 12" little bit of a mess no, biggie, ithink
Post by: Vampyr_X on August 05, 2005, 05:05:00 AM
Post by: Potman on June 22, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
but is there a new swizzle/unswizzle tool available with better stuff and easier to work with?
i havent been able to figure out how to make the tool here work.
man, need a stable tool for gta sa.
Post by: BILLS on June 23, 2006, 05:28:00 PM
Anyway, this unswizzler is for this baseball game not gta.