Post by: Ripasser on December 13, 2004, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: FektionFekler on December 13, 2004, 11:43:00 AM
Post by: krustytheclown on December 13, 2004, 12:12:00 PM
Shut the fuck up.
Post by: FektionFekler on December 13, 2004, 12:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (krustytheclown @ Dec 13 2004, 08:44 PM) |
| Then why are you in the automotive forum? Are you gay? It would appear so. Shut the fuck up. |
You read me like a book.
Post by: yaazz on December 13, 2004, 12:34:00 PM
| QUOTE (FektionFekler @ Dec 13 2004, 08:15 PM) |
| Talking about cars is for homosexuals. |
WTF? your in the automotive forum dude. If you don't like talking about cars, there are plenty of other forums here on X-S. Chances are you can find something you like to talk about here at XS (hey, maybe Xbox!
). Just a warning though, if you flame entire Forum topics, especially when you are new here, you are going to get banned pretty quick.
Anyhoo back on topic, I personally drive a ricer ( just because I am in love with the car
), but I like muscle cars too. A freind of mine has a Z28 Camaro, that is suped up, and it is damn awesome!
Post by: Rylinkus on December 13, 2004, 01:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (FektionFekler @ Dec 13 2004, 08:15 PM) |
| Talking about cars is for homosexuals. |
Then stay out of this section of the forum. Frankly I've yet to see you post anything of any real use in any post yet. Unless calling everyone gay is your idea of an intelligent post.
Post by: Baner on December 13, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Just a warning though, if you flame entire Forum topics, especially when you are new here, you are going to get banned pretty quick. |
He ain't new.
Post by: fishlord on December 13, 2004, 11:22:00 PM
I find this to be something of a myth. Generally increasing HP in a car increases gas consumption. You're gonna get nailed one way or the other. I also find it amusing that ther 200HP S2000 gets similar gas mileage to a Z28 with an LS1 engine. There's a pretty decent HP difference. And displacement difference.
This post has been edited by Rylinkus: Dec 14 2004, 09:50 PM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 14, 2004, 12:22:00 AM
Plus i like the feel/noise of muscle cars. I cant stand the buzzing noise imports make plus you dont get that feel of power.
Altough i really like big cars (Lincolns, Caddys).
Post by: blueshogun96 on December 14, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| He ain't new. |
December 2 is new to me
| QUOTE |
| Talking about cars is for homosexuals. |
I'm not much of a car person, but calling us all gay is going a bit too far
Anyway, I prefer imports because they last longer and the ricers go the extra mile for the customers. Muscle is good too, but that just doesn't matter to me.-
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Post by: xboxhackern00b on December 19, 2004, 03:40:00 PM
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American Muscle all the way i love the feel of the car torqueing from the sheer power of the big block just idling
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Post by: nemt on December 19, 2004, 05:36:00 PM
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GTOwn
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Post by: jesterrace777 on December 25, 2004, 03:56:00 PM
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I tend to be more of an import person myself. Simple reason=handling. It is true that no import will give you as much as an american vehicle (for your money) on a dragstrip, but I just can't stand the handling systems of american cars. I know that improvements can be made but I just don't like them as much. As for gas consumption, that kind of depends. If a good chunk of your HP comes from a big turbo then you can still get decent gas milage provided you keep your RPMs low. So you could still get decent gas milage while you aren't racing. With that said I do love the classic muscle cars.
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Post by: arowana1027 on December 25, 2004, 07:44:00 PM
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FORD MUSCLE! Nothing like doin' 155(fastest I've had her up too then lifted off the pedal) in a 347ci supercharged, nos injected 94 Stang!That's with the Warlock mufflers capped!And it HANDLES too.Been to Road Atlanta on many a track day with her.I also have a 72 Maverick Grabber that'll do 147mph in the 1/4mi.I love the big cam lumpy idle it has too.MPG in both kinda sux, that's why I also drive an '87 Honda.
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Post by: the black box on December 25, 2004, 08:11:00 PM
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I like muscle cars a lot better than ricers, just the sound and power of them compared to a ricer. Those shitty so called performance exhuasts with like 8 iinch tips that you put on ricers just make it sound worse than it already is. My favorite thing is to see a true muscle car pull up beside a riced out Civic and rev it up, frame almost tearing apart from the power and not to mention the rumble it makes....unbelievable! And this is stock. Then the ricer revs it right out and it sounds like shit, the buzzing from the exhuast makes you wanna go up to it and tear it off.
Well I like muscle cars better and I would chose one over a ricer any day.
My favortie muscle car is the 1967 Shelby GT500E, you might know it as "Eleanor" if you seen the movie "Gone In 60 Seconds" That car is amazing, and then you can get a supersnake model with a supercharged engine which produces 750hp....ohhhh what a car.
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Post by: ..[[ModBoxMaster]].. on December 26, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
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It's all about those 1970's HemiS!
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Post by: arowana1027 on December 26, 2004, 06:07:00 PM
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Anyway, I prefer imports because they last longer and the ricers go the extra mile for the customers. Muscle is good too, but that just doesn't matter to me.
Post by: xboxhackern00b on December 19, 2004, 03:40:00 PM
Post by: nemt on December 19, 2004, 05:36:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on December 25, 2004, 03:56:00 PM
Post by: arowana1027 on December 25, 2004, 07:44:00 PM
Post by: the black box on December 25, 2004, 08:11:00 PM
Well I like muscle cars better and I would chose one over a ricer any day.
My favortie muscle car is the 1967 Shelby GT500E, you might know it as "Eleanor" if you seen the movie "Gone In 60 Seconds" That car is amazing, and then you can get a supersnake model with a supercharged engine which produces 750hp....ohhhh what a car.
Post by: ..[[ModBoxMaster]].. on December 26, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: arowana1027 on December 26, 2004, 06:07:00 PM
QUOTE(..[[ModBoxMaster]].. @ Dec 26 2004, 03:23 AM)
It's all about those 1970's HemiS!
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Post by: Ripasser on December 26, 2004, 11:44:00 PM
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Even got the shaker hood... simply amazing
ADD:
1970 Hemi Cuda
That is on of my favorite cars... All about the muscle
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Post by: havocaose on December 28, 2004, 12:39:00 AM
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what do the wires going to the hoddpins do?
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Post by: fishlord on December 30, 2004, 08:29:00 PM
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Post by: Ripasser on December 26, 2004, 11:44:00 PM
ADD:
1970 Hemi Cuda
That is on of my favorite cars... All about the muscle
Post by: havocaose on December 28, 2004, 12:39:00 AM
Post by: fishlord on December 30, 2004, 08:29:00 PM
QUOTE(havocaose @ Dec 28 2004, 09:10 AM)
what do the wires going to the hoddpins do?
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Post by: twistedsymphony on January 04, 2005, 06:43:00 AM
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If you're running a turbo-ed import it's fairly cheap money to make big power over most comparably priced American cars, usually lighter weight too. Though unless I was going with something like an M car I probably wouldn't buy an import unless it had a Turbo.
Back in college we had an auto-cross every other week. Once week a guy with a newish Camero SS showed up (sweet car BTW, I've had the pleasure of driving one on several occasions). After sizing up his car a bit and doing a test run it was determined that it was so big that it physically couldn't fit through the course
It was pretty funny.
As for labeling imports as "ricers" what about all those sweet European cars? like the BMW M3, Audi S4, or VW R32.
I don't care if you're a pure straight line power fan or a tight handling track fan. No one car argue with the M series cars. HUGE amounts power (especially in the newer models) and better handling than just about anything under the sun, all wrapped up in European refinement, with a back seat and a boot!
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Post by: 82_Z28 on January 26, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
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my only copmprimise with imports is Italian cars and Germand cars.
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Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on January 26, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
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muscle definately.....imports sound like crap to me with them potato cannons as mufflers.....and it just dont sound rite all high pitched n stuff....
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Post by: Ripasser on January 28, 2005, 12:35:00 AM
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Hey do you have any mods/additions to your 82 camaro? I have an 83 z28 with a 305 TPI and they are virtually the same car. Im lookin into this twin turbo kit for it. Im not sure how much it costs, the website doesnt list a price. But it will boost me to about 600hp atleast at the wheels. I can beat most ricers with my stock car and it costs atleast 5x less. I love Camaro's and basically any Muscle car... accept the Mustang. Im not much of a Stang fan, accept the Mach 1.
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Post by: 82_Z28 on January 28, 2005, 10:56:00 AM
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and lets not forget the Shelby series.
I haven't got any mods yet for a couple of reasons. The main ones are money and I still need to fix a couple of (minor lol) leaks. Too much oil goes into that car. But I didn't really pay too much for the car in the first place. ($1500)
as for what model I have, its got Cross Fire Injection (may change this however) 305 5.0. Out of all the 305s made this year, mine had a slightly better compression ratio. (lucky me )
I think it was 9.5:1
the one thing I regret about it is that its an automatic
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Post by: fishlord on January 28, 2005, 01:06:00 PM
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Post by: twistedsymphony on January 04, 2005, 06:43:00 AM
If you're running a turbo-ed import it's fairly cheap money to make big power over most comparably priced American cars, usually lighter weight too. Though unless I was going with something like an M car I probably wouldn't buy an import unless it had a Turbo.Back in college we had an auto-cross every other week. Once week a guy with a newish Camero SS showed up (sweet car BTW, I've had the pleasure of driving one on several occasions). After sizing up his car a bit and doing a test run it was determined that it was so big that it physically couldn't fit through the course
It was pretty funny.
As for labeling imports as "ricers" what about all those sweet European cars? like the BMW M3, Audi S4, or VW R32.
I don't care if you're a pure straight line power fan or a tight handling track fan. No one car argue with the M series cars. HUGE amounts power (especially in the newer models) and better handling than just about anything under the sun, all wrapped up in European refinement, with a back seat and a boot!
Post by: 82_Z28 on January 26, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
my only copmprimise with imports is Italian cars and Germand cars.
Post by: Northcarolina ReDn3k on January 26, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
Post by: Ripasser on January 28, 2005, 12:35:00 AM
Post by: 82_Z28 on January 28, 2005, 10:56:00 AM
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Im not much of a Stang fan, accept the Mach 1.
and lets not forget the Shelby series.
I haven't got any mods yet for a couple of reasons. The main ones are money and I still need to fix a couple of (minor lol) leaks. Too much oil goes into that car. But I didn't really pay too much for the car in the first place. ($1500)
as for what model I have, its got Cross Fire Injection (may change this however) 305 5.0. Out of all the 305s made this year, mine had a slightly better compression ratio. (lucky me
)I think it was 9.5:1
the one thing I regret about it is that its an automatic
Post by: fishlord on January 28, 2005, 01:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Ripasser @ Jan 28 2005, 09:06 AM)
But it will boost me to about 600hp atleast at the wheels.
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Post by: Ripasser on January 29, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
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Mine is a Cross Fire Injection as well. Mine has the same leak problem, i add atleast a quart every 2 weeks. I plan on buyin a beater here soon to get me around and tear my engine apart and totally rebuild it. Plus it will keep me out of trouble.
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Post by: 82_Z28 on January 29, 2005, 04:23:00 PM
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wish i were you.... try 3 to 4 quarts a day
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Post by: jesterrace777 on January 31, 2005, 06:14:00 PM
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Post by: Ripasser on January 29, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
Post by: 82_Z28 on January 29, 2005, 04:23:00 PM
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i add atleast a quart every 2 weeks.
wish i were you.... try 3 to 4 quarts a day
Post by: jesterrace777 on January 31, 2005, 06:14:00 PM
QUOTE(82_Z28 @ Jan 29 2005, 11:29 PM)
wish i were you.... try 3 to 4 quarts a day
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Post by: 82_Z28 on January 31, 2005, 06:16:00 PM
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I just pulled a new record today, ONLY 2 quarts today
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Post by: Rylinkus on January 31, 2005, 09:24:00 PM
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Post by: 82_Z28 on January 31, 2005, 06:16:00 PM
Post by: Rylinkus on January 31, 2005, 09:24:00 PM
QUOTE(82_Z28 @ Jan 29 2005, 11:29 PM)
wish i were you.... try 3 to 4 quarts a day
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Post by: fishlord on February 01, 2005, 03:14:00 AM
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Post by: fishlord on February 01, 2005, 03:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Feb 1 2005, 04:30 AM)
Sounds like someone is desperately in need ofa rebuild. Rings???
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Post by: Helrazer83 on February 04, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
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Post by: Helrazer83 on February 04, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
QUOTE(Ripasser @ Jan 28 2005, 01:41 AM)
I have an 83 z28 with a 305 TPI and they are virtually the same car. Im lookin into this twin turbo kit for it. Im not sure how much it costs, the website doesnt list a price. But it will boost me to about 600hp atleast at the wheels
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Post by: 82_Z28 on February 04, 2005, 04:47:00 PM
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I have to admit, if I had to buy a newer car, I'd go with the Trans Ams
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Post by: Helrazer83 on February 04, 2005, 07:49:00 PM
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Post by: 82_Z28 on February 04, 2005, 04:47:00 PM
Post by: Helrazer83 on February 04, 2005, 07:49:00 PM
QUOTE(82_Z28 @ Feb 4 2005, 05:53 PM)
I have to admit, if I had to buy a newer car, I'd go with the Trans Ams
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Post by: jesterrace777 on February 05, 2005, 05:05:00 PM
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Post by: jesterrace777 on February 05, 2005, 05:05:00 PM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Feb 1 2005, 04:30 AM)
Sounds like someone is desperately in need ofa rebuild. Rings???
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Post by: Rustmonkey on February 12, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
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Post by: Rustmonkey on February 12, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
QUOTE(Helrazer83 @ Feb 4 2005, 07:52 AM)
Man, I never flame friendly people with American muscle cars, so don't take this as such, but there is no way a twin turbo will boost a 305 to 600 hp...
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 15, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
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So much flaming of the 305. It's not THAT bad an engine. Stock for Stock it's only about 20 hp shy of the "amazing" 350. I'm not saying it's a better engine, but it could be a lot worse. And when you look at almost every friggin 350 selling well in excess of book value it may make sense to buy a 305 to save some green.
As for the WS6 Firehawk, Id be ashamed to drive it. It looks so gaudy. Rims and an exhaust DO NOT warrant the price jump between the WS6 and the basic V8 pacakages.
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 15, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
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and whats the hp of the normal LS1? 305 isnt it? not that bigf a difference when you look at the price.
Even more disturbing is that it says 330 hp right on the damn hood, and only yields 325 hp. Typical ricer deal. exagerate your HP.
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 15, 2005, 09:43:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 15, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
As for the WS6 Firehawk, Id be ashamed to drive it. It looks so gaudy. Rims and an exhaust DO NOT warrant the price jump between the WS6 and the basic V8 pacakages.
Post by: Rylinkus on February 15, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
Even more disturbing is that it says 330 hp right on the damn hood, and only yields 325 hp. Typical ricer deal. exagerate your HP.
Post by: Rylinkus on February 15, 2005, 09:43:00 PM
QUOTE(tc86gn @ Feb 16 2005, 04:39 AM)
I have never seen anywhere on my WS6 where it says 330 HP. The WS6 package is also the handling package. It drives and handles like it is on rails. Comes stock w/40's too. That is also something that is not part of a typical V8 package. But, hey, the wife drives it as it is the slower car in my garage. She only lets me fix it and wash it unless I have been a good boy!
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Post by: ThaCrip on February 21, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
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im a muscle car person all the way cause to sum it up there plain better when it comes to power/acceleration at a much cheaper price
nothing beats cubic inches .... V8 all the way... when u want a car with "power" v8 is only way to go... i dont buy a "performance" car for gas milage, u buy it for performance!
it's good to see people are smarter in here and most of the votes went to muscle cars
69percent to 39percent
i dont know whats the deal with these "kids" nowadays likeing those damn imports... i swear it's all cause of that movie "The Fast And The Furious" lol
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 21, 2005, 05:07:00 PM
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I think there's a lot of biases both ways in this poll. It really starts with the title itself where anyone who tunes an import is a ricer. I've seen plenty of people behind the wheels of V8s that I'd consider just as much of a ricer. And I've seen some very well done 4 bangers that'd put most V8s to shame.
Also, it seems a lot of people want to equate performance to being able to accelerate hard in a straight line. There's other aspects to performance that just get over looked. Handling. Whether it be weight distubution, skid pad numbers or braking abilities, these all play into making a car go fast on a real track.
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Post by: fezzman on February 25, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
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Post by: ThaCrip on February 21, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
nothing beats cubic inches .... V8 all the way... when u want a car with "power" v8 is only way to go... i dont buy a "performance" car for gas milage, u buy it for performance!
it's good to see people are smarter in here and most of the votes went to muscle cars
69percent to 39percent
i dont know whats the deal with these "kids" nowadays likeing those damn imports... i swear it's all cause of that movie "The Fast And The Furious" lol
Post by: Rylinkus on February 21, 2005, 05:07:00 PM
Also, it seems a lot of people want to equate performance to being able to accelerate hard in a straight line. There's other aspects to performance that just get over looked. Handling. Whether it be weight distubution, skid pad numbers or braking abilities, these all play into making a car go fast on a real track.
Post by: fezzman on February 25, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Rylinkus @ Feb 22 2005, 12:13 AM)
I think there's a lot of biases both ways in this poll. It really starts with the title itself where anyone who tunes an import is a ricer. I've seen plenty of people behind the wheels of V8s that I'd consider just as much of a ricer. And I've seen some very well done 4 bangers that'd put most V8s to shame.
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 25, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 25, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
QUOTE(fezzman @ Feb 25 2005, 09:00 PM)
^^I agree^^ I've seen some seriously riced out Mustangs. Sooo sad. I've got a 'stang and an 05 Altima in my stable so I guess you could say I'm a bit of both. One thing you'll never see on my altima is one of those goofy ass stick-your-fvckin-head-in-it mufflers. I plan to open up the flow on it but not at the expense of looking stupid.
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Post by: fezzman on February 26, 2005, 08:06:00 AM
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I've not seen that vid. Can you point me in a direction? I'd love to see it. Stupid people amuse me.
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 26, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
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http://www.fbodyextr.....ice stang.avi
Have fun. This guy cracks me up.
It's taken from the end of the movie Mischief 3000 which is a movie about the gumball rally. Anyway, the video is self explanatory as hell. This guys a joke.
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Post by: fezzman on February 27, 2005, 06:13:00 AM
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I listened to it and it sounds funny as hell. I can't watch it though.
Windows media won't play it and QT says it is missing some info to play it. I even tried updating and that still didn't work. I guess at least I could still hear it. 
Now that my whining is over, check this shit out. I was in Orlando yesterday checking out a Mustang car show. Nice turnout and some really nice cars. Sure as shit, there was this yellow mustang there that had GTR emblems on it. They had a Cobra R hood and spoiler on it so I guess they figured that the GTR seemed approiate. Uhhhh...NO!! There were only 300 Cobra R's made and every one of them were red. That's just as bad as puting GT emblems on a V6.
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 27, 2005, 11:10:00 AM
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It could have been repainted......
Ill get pics of my older car later and post them. Ill need to dig them up. Then youll know what true lack of taste is.
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Post by: jesterrace777 on February 27, 2005, 08:50:00 PM
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Post by: fezzman on February 26, 2005, 08:06:00 AM
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I think we've all seen the video of the guy at the car show with the Mustang GTR. He claims it's a special model and has a rotary and upgraded pistons
I've not seen that vid. Can you point me in a direction? I'd love to see it. Stupid people amuse me.
Post by: Rylinkus on February 26, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
Have fun. This guy cracks me up.
It's taken from the end of the movie Mischief 3000 which is a movie about the gumball rally. Anyway, the video is self explanatory as hell. This guys a joke.
Post by: fezzman on February 27, 2005, 06:13:00 AM
Windows media won't play it and QT says it is missing some info to play it. I even tried updating and that still didn't work. I guess at least I could still hear it. Now that my whining is over, check this shit out. I was in Orlando yesterday checking out a Mustang car show. Nice turnout and some really nice cars. Sure as shit, there was this yellow mustang there that had GTR emblems on it. They had a Cobra R hood and spoiler on it so I guess they figured that the GTR seemed approiate. Uhhhh...NO!! There were only 300 Cobra R's made and every one of them were red. That's just as bad as puting GT emblems on a V6.
Post by: Rylinkus on February 27, 2005, 11:10:00 AM
Ill get pics of my older car later and post them. Ill need to dig them up. Then youll know what true lack of taste is.
Post by: jesterrace777 on February 27, 2005, 08:50:00 PM
QUOTE(fezzman @ Feb 27 2005, 01:19 PM)
I listened to it and it sounds funny as hell. I can't watch it though. Windows media won't play it and QT says it is missing some info to play it. I even tried updating and that still didn't work. I guess at least I could still hear it.
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Post by: Rylinkus on February 27, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
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Windows media won't play it and QT says it is missing some info to play it. I even tried updating and that still didn't work. I guess at least I could still hear it. Post by: Rylinkus on February 27, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Feb 28 2005, 03:56 AM)
Try playing the vid with VLC Media player. http://www.videolan.org